They are very fast too! I operated a "21" in the Navy back in 1976. I loved it. Mine had a 3 tooth ripper and a huge winch on the back and a blade tilt for the front blade. Other than that, it was just like this one and sweet! Oh, mine was drab olive green. LOL
Triple D: If you're interested, there is a bunch of this old equipment being operated in Canandaigua this weekend. The Historic Construction Equipment Association is holding their annual national show in conjunction with the New York Steam Engine Association's Pageant of Steam on Gehan Road. The show ends tomorrow ( August 9, 2014 ) at 5:00 PM. I was there this afternoon and am going back tomorrow. All I can say is SENSORY OVERLOAD.
DailyDieselDose Cool. If you see a guy with a grey beard wearing a black John Deere hat and a tan ATHS t-shirt from the West Springfield show, that's probably me.
Man ! I'd love to see this HD21 working. By the way,. you call this a D21 in the written description,..and in fact isn't the D21 Allis Chalmers a Farm Tractor ?
Allis Chalmers always had a thing that bigger was better. Since they came out with the HD19 back in the 40's. It was a great machine, don't get me wrong. HD 41 back in 1970's was a groundbreaker that changed the world. But they used other motors for the beasts. They didn't make motors. This led to the downfall of Allis Chalmers (Fiat Allis). CAT used CAT motors. CAT is still alive today, and doing very well. thank you. What does this tell you?
tdshaker You don't know what your talking about, not only DID Allis Chalmers make motors they sold them to other OEM manufacturer. The HD 41 had a Cummins V12 because it was more cost effective for that size. Allis Chalmers V12 put out over a 1000 hp and was to big for the 41 and the next motor down was the 844 which was too small
What killed allis was that they had to many big contracts and developments with the government. When 3 mile island had a near melt down allis had a large portion of contracts and development on turbines, cooling pumps, basically all the major pieces to a nuclear power plant. When 3 mile happened the government pulled the plug taking all development plans and testing leaving allis high and dry with the cost. Only thing that was keeping them goin was construction equipment and farming. Then the stock market crashed with a heavy blow to the farming industry hanging allis for good along with other big names merging or being bought out like steiger versatile case international and so on. Allis was huge and bigger that cat or any other manufacturers, problem was they dealt with government to much.
The death of Allis-Chamlers was they were sold to Fiat. They build their own engines but started using Cummins in the HD21, HD31 and HD41 crawlers and other large applications. Then in the late 1970's when Russia invaded Afganistan - President Jimmy Carter said Fiat Allis to export an order of large crawlers and Pipe Layers to build the Russian Pipeline from Siberia to SW Russia for oil and natural gas. In less than 90 day Fiat-Allis shut the plant down in Springfield, IL and moved it to Italy.
John Davidson allis chalmers was already in trouble by then due to the government isn't was just then. The biggest blow was that the had too much invested into research and development of nuclear power then 3 mile island happened. After that the government said no thanks from the evidence that nuclear is so unstable. Allis was unable to sale any exist data or r&r to any one interested in nuclear power development. Carter also shot the in the foot with the trade embargos for raw materials causing the farming industry to fall apart and farms disappear. I've heard many farmers curse him. Allis was on life support when fiat bought into them and it was a pla to phase out allis designs for their own which is when they shut down the us plant. That's when you saw the contraction equipment change design.
Awesome pic. of the machine named "Da Beast" ..use of it for 'fire-breaks' n clearing areas for planting.. forestry mahi .. kaapai presente 🦾✌️ . mou-te-wehi.. awesome..Kia ora 🙏🤙👍
They are very fast too! I operated a "21" in the Navy back in 1976. I loved it. Mine had a 3 tooth ripper and a huge winch on the back and a blade tilt for the front blade. Other than that, it was just like this one and sweet! Oh, mine was drab olive green. LOL
I never seen that ZOR PLOW before! Awesome
Triple D: If you're interested, there is a bunch of this old equipment being operated in Canandaigua this weekend. The Historic Construction Equipment Association is holding their annual national show in conjunction with the New York Steam Engine Association's Pageant of Steam on Gehan Road. The show ends tomorrow ( August 9, 2014 ) at 5:00 PM. I was there this afternoon and am going back tomorrow. All I can say is SENSORY OVERLOAD.
I'll be there tomorrow after the Brockway Trucks Parade in Cortland.
DailyDieselDose Cool. If you see a guy with a grey beard wearing a black John Deere hat and a tan ATHS t-shirt from the West Springfield show, that's probably me.
beautiful machine!!!
And it`s never been used off road ?
Saw one on a farm in CT pretty big machine
Anthony Lucibello I would have loved to see this thing run.
well there doing a north east rockbusters show on the same farm with the HD21 on it that might be used in the show
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Old AC equipment had tons of torque. Even old farm tractors.
Looks like someone put on cat dozer lift cylinders.
That's a rare piece of iron right there that help build the country we know today I'd love to have it what did it go for
allied1394 probably scrap.
my grandpa had HD11Gs buckets and forks
Man ! I'd love to see this HD21 working. By the way,. you call this a D21 in the written description,..and in fact isn't the D21 Allis Chalmers a Farm Tractor ?
That front blade seems like it's a mile away. Haha.
Allis Chalmers always had a thing that bigger was better. Since they came out with the HD19 back in the 40's. It was a great machine, don't get me wrong. HD 41 back in 1970's was a groundbreaker that changed the world. But they used other motors for the beasts. They didn't make motors. This led to the downfall of Allis Chalmers (Fiat Allis). CAT used CAT motors. CAT is still alive today, and doing very well. thank you. What does this tell you?
Vertical integration is the name of the game otherwise you are the mercy of your suppliers and whatever problems they have.
tdshaker You don't know what your talking about, not only DID Allis Chalmers make motors they sold them to other OEM manufacturer. The HD 41 had a Cummins V12 because it was more cost effective for that size. Allis Chalmers V12 put out over a 1000 hp and was to big for the 41 and the next motor down was the 844 which was too small
What killed allis was that they had to many big contracts and developments with the government. When 3 mile island had a near melt down allis had a large portion of contracts and development on turbines, cooling pumps, basically all the major pieces to a nuclear power plant. When 3 mile happened the government pulled the plug taking all development plans and testing leaving allis high and dry with the cost. Only thing that was keeping them goin was construction equipment and farming. Then the stock market crashed with a heavy blow to the farming industry hanging allis for good along with other big names merging or being bought out like steiger versatile case international and so on. Allis was huge and bigger that cat or any other manufacturers, problem was they dealt with government to much.
The death of Allis-Chamlers was they were sold to Fiat. They build their own engines but started using Cummins in the HD21, HD31 and HD41 crawlers and other large applications. Then in the late 1970's when Russia invaded Afganistan - President Jimmy Carter said Fiat Allis to export an order of large crawlers and Pipe Layers to build the Russian Pipeline from Siberia to SW Russia for oil and natural gas. In less than 90 day Fiat-Allis shut the plant down in Springfield, IL and moved it to Italy.
John Davidson allis chalmers was already in trouble by then due to the government isn't was just then. The biggest blow was that the had too much invested into research and development of nuclear power then 3 mile island happened. After that the government said no thanks from the evidence that nuclear is so unstable. Allis was unable to sale any exist data or r&r to any one interested in nuclear power development. Carter also shot the in the foot with the trade embargos for raw materials causing the farming industry to fall apart and farms disappear. I've heard many farmers curse him. Allis was on life support when fiat bought into them and it was a pla to phase out allis designs for their own which is when they shut down the us plant. That's when you saw the contraction equipment change design.
Extremely hard to find parts for, mostly unobtainium.
Baloney
I'd refurbish that thing.
Shot undercarriage..I'l say she's done some work..
Not as massive as fd40
FD40 was a HD31 which was one cog bigger then the 21
@@RJ1999x i meant the 41
@@RJ1999x worked for a company with 3 31s and an fd 40 i know the diffrence
@@RJ1999x they also had smaller units fd 20 and fd14
@@wilmamcdermott3065 those were Fiat built, so not built to the Allis Chalmers standards
Awesome pic. of the machine named "Da Beast" ..use of it for 'fire-breaks' n clearing areas for planting.. forestry mahi .. kaapai presente 🦾✌️ . mou-te-wehi.. awesome..Kia ora 🙏🤙👍