Excellent and awesome large setup .🤙I know you’re very proud of your system in operation that can run your whole house . 🤗May the solar be with you . 😊😊
We also use the Blue Sun panels (460x bi-facials) Awesome panels. Did you get all your stuff from Signature? You mentioned North Texas. That's where we are too (Bridgeport area). And yes, we had to enlist help to get the panels up on the barn. Thanks!
Impressive setup. I love that it runs everything. I think that's everyone's end goal, but some of the big loads flat out require a big solar investment.
I still don't have my hot water heaters off the grid yet. It's really hard because it's not just power generation to consider, it's also energy efficient loads as well.
Interesting note on the bifacial panels, I put white EPDM under one array and have desert tan under the other. I should say desert tan asphalt shingles. There is more output from the desert tan shingles than the panels sitting on a white EPDM roof.
@@BecomingOffgrid Looking forward to it! I am still rocking the Growatt's and the control panel I built off your version for the auto transformers, I have 6 inverters running on that system. I am working on another system of 3 or 4 Growatt's, control panel, and auto transformer. It will power my shed, or charge 2 EV's, and will be a backup to my 6 inverter system if something were to fail. Both systems will charge the same aprox 200kwh battery bank. I am totally off the grid now. I love too see how everyone does stuff just a little bit different.
Oh for sure. There is nothing wrong with the Growatts and AT's at all. They are solid units. Mine are probably going to end up in the barn to provide service out there. Out of curiosity how is the control panel setup working for you?
@@BecomingOffgrid It is working great! I am using the 50 amp relays, I have put over 100amps of load on it for long periods with no issues. I used the shunt trip breakers, the only thing that sucks is you have to manually reset them if something drops power.
@@snoflite5234Yea that part of the design does kinda suck. Hopefully it's minimal. You could always replace the manual bootstrap switches with another protection relay (240v one). Then it would automatically come back on. Risk vs reward I guess. If it happens infrequently, then the shunt trips are maximum protection. The system should save your house in the event of a failure.
I am very impressed with the system. I have been playing around with Solar for a few years. I don't mean this in a bad way, but with all you have I am guessing you can spend what you want and need for your system? Solar can become very pricy and your equipment alone runs into many thousands of dollars. Again very impressed and jealous of that nice of system, I have a small Frankenstein system as the Pros call it.
I have been buying in piece parts for many many years. I wait for deals to come up and then buy things one at a time. This wasn't a single large purchase, I wish I had that kind of money. If I had all the money I wanted, I would have bought Sol-Ark's or the EG4 18K inverters. I got all of this gear on the cheap. I also would have been able to pay someone to put it all together. Hence why you see kind of a mishmash of things for the system. Additionally, I am making a bet that the cost of electricity if going to go up massively over the next 10 years. This in my mind is a investment in my own future. To me this is critical for the security and sustainability for my families future. I feel like its 1999 and this is a gasoline tank that fills itself back up at 1999 prices. The cost of solar equipment tracks the cost of electric. When those prices go up, so does the cost of the gear. Right now is the time to make the investment before it spirals out of control. Time will tell if I am right or not. I have no idea what the future holds. www.eia.gov/outlooks/steo/report/elec_coal_renew.php Thanks for watching
@@BecomingOffgrid I was impressed with what you have. It was the first time I watched one of our videos and was like WOW that's nice. Please understand I didn't mean that in a bad way or in disrespect in anyway. I been playing around with and fully understand the coast of Solar and the many things that go with it. IMO you are doing the right thing as you stated it's only going to get higher priced all around. We all need to be looking into being more stable on our own. I moved out of the big city and haven't gotten mine all back together yet. I am planning on doing as you have and start back a little at a time to add to what I have. I am in Florida and the storms knock out power from time to time. I have special needs child and have enough to run lights, Refreg. fans to keep going if need be. Keep pushing forward as the time will come it will be much needed IMO. Thank You for the reply and information.
Oh I didn't feel like you said anything cross at all. I have been collecting parts for this system for a long time and just now got it all together. Thank you for watching my videos!
Impressive!! A lot of what I’ve read about the Mpp & Sungold inverters has been negative but it looks like you’ve got them working great. Those two 12ks are beasts! really like your use of the manual transfer switches for sub panels. That’s how I’m starting off. I suspect that the age of your home and its insulation values are causing you to use more power for air conditioning than you’d like, but you’re typically less humid than I am in central TX, so that helps. New Sub and look forward to keeping up with your progress! 👍⚡️💡😁
It's actually the number of windows in my house. I have floor to ceiling windows everywhere and it's killing me. Lol The manual transfer switches were used because from what I can figure, it's the only way to meet code for my particular situation
@@BecomingOffgrid that makes sense. My builder thought I was crazy when i said “fewer windows please”. 🫣. In TX cooling your house is akin to an extra car payment half the year!
52kWpv…facing mostly S, some SW and a little SE, angled 45 to 66°. 210kWh diy LFP and a Trophy220. Totally off-grid in an all electric home, standard 80 gal HWH, 8.25 Tons of 16-33 SEER heat pumps. Wood burner if needed below 25F and cloudy. Manual transfer switch can be flipped, a call to the power company and a small turn-on fee paid if I croak someone wants to go back on the unreliable grid. Living totally off grid in an above average size home today is doable. You better plan on not buying that new pick up truck.
I think people kinda fall into 3 camps. 1. Easy and fast solar - these are the grid tie crowd and they are just trying to save money on the power bill. (nothing wrong with this btw) 2. Off-grid enthusiast - These people are just trying to get some freedom of where and how they consume from the grid. While these are not 100% off-grid they are usually trying to get as close as their budget will let them. 3. No Grid hardliner - These people usually don't even have a grid connection to begin with. When a home is engineered with this in mind from the get-go its really not that hard to do. Also the people that fall in this camp want to be dependent on nobody. I am a #2. I don't have the money to get completely off the grid - it would probably cost me another 20 or 30k to get there because my house wasn't built with efficiencies of an off grid only home. I can't fix those problems, but I can do my best in my budget. I have only one appliance left on the grid and that is my 2 water heaters. This is a great question and something I do plan to address in a future video.
@@BecomingOffgrid With respect, a bit more conventional terms are; 1: Grid Tie/Net Metering (may be able to store excess production, may not) 2: Hybrid (This is you, using ~100% of production, grid when need is excess of production.) 3: Off Grid (could have a generator, but zero grid tie). Though personally I include water and sewage to be completely off grid.
@@davidfifth6109 My water and sewage are off grid. Having the grid as a backup source is just that - it's a source. I also have generator as a backup source.
Is it good or bad idea to keep battery,charge controller,inverter in a separate air conditioning room to maintain cool temperature?? Most of the time heat reaches 36,37C here.
It was quite expensive if I am being honest. I have a 150kw per day load to cover. It was about 70k all in. For the water heater I just need to replace the two I have with a single heat pump based unit and I shouldn't have any more to spend after that. Mind you I have bought all of these parts over the last few years and with the equipment out now, I could have easily saved 10k.
so how do you have enough total power to be fully off grid? I have 36 panels and 2 tesla powerwall batteries and cant run my home. in fact i still pay nearly 200 per month to the grid! do you not have an air conditioner? I have ac and well and 2450 sq foot home plus lights and a workshop and she shed hooked up. the workshop and she shed are hardly used or using power. my batteries only give about 1 or 2 hours of power when fully charged.
@@johnfitbyfaithnet not tesla, the seller. poor design. but the batteries cannot provide that much power for a whole night. they run dry in about 3 hours without ac but half with ac running.and in steamy hot florida ac is mandatory.
I have what would equal 4 Tesla power walls and I have 72 panels facing all directions but north. I have everything except the hot water heater off the grid completely. I will be doing some updates on how it all works soon.
@@BecomingOffgrid I cleared another 2 acres just for ground mounted but my power cable run is about 2 to 3 hundred yards. how much loss will i have? was looking to put as high powered as possible on the ground and run to a battery building.
@@jeffpaul8260 It would be best to send that as high voltage underground before converting it for starters. We cannot calculate your loss at all without tons more information. If your 36 panels are all facing the same direction, it means they are all peaking and setting together instead of extending the time they can generate power. 2 Powerwalls might not be enough to use all your energy instead of sending mid day energy to the grid.
Looks like I need to do now is get yourself an electric vehicle or two. I couldn’t help to notice all of the gasoline cans hanging around what’s going on there?
I don't think that technology is there just yet. I know that models that are in the works are moving to a safer battery chemistry. I just recently tried to pickup an F150 lightning and they tried to knock me over the head on my trade.
Aren't those 3 mpp 8048 units actual inverters also. If im understanding your setup correctly you are basically just using them as charge controllers right? And emergency charging from the grid if needed.. You arent actually using them as inverters correct?the two large blue LF inveters are actually supplying your AC loads. Why not use the 3 yellow units as your inverters and omit the 2 blue units. Just curious
Because then I would have to handle switching between grid and off grid. The 8048 units are 240v only, so I would need auto transformers, which is problematic when switching to grid power. This way I never switch to grid, I just charge the battery instead. It's not the most efficient model, but it does separate areas of concern. It's not for everyone, but it's what I wanted out of my system. Thanks for watching!
I gotcha, makes sense now. Especially that those 3 units are 240v only. I agree it's nice to be able to charge from the grid if you wanted without actually having to be attached to the grid with your inverter. I think they technically make a stand alone charger but then you'd have even more components haha. I use outback charge controllers but they aren't cheap and solar input is limited to 150voc yours are actually a better alternative. With the added benefit of grid charging like you said. Awesome system by the way
I will probably use a lynx shunt, but I don't know what I really get from it. The BMS in the battery reports it's status to Solar Assistant and so do the MPP inverters.
@@BecomingOffgrid You don't want the lynx shunt as you aren't using a Victron solution, just the smart shunt will give you everything you need and more.
Why so complex? 3*8=24kwt + 2*12=24kwt invertors. So 5 invertors for 48 kwt total. If you was able just to install 2*12kwt hybrid invertors that will do all same that this 5 do. They take less space and cost chipper, and all this just will become more simple to maintain in future. In any case what done that done, so good luck with your system.
3 out of 5 don't make split phase power, so they are just charge controllers. It's not as complex as it looks. Also with a 2.inverter setup, when it switches to grid power there is a very short drop in power. Sensitive electronics don't like that. This system will be more reliable in the long run.
@@BecomingOffgrid It is strange, i have Deye 12kwt hybrid invertor. And switching grid or solar off/on does not affect electricity at home at all. Even my desktop PC is not rebooting even on high load.
Put a scope in an outlet and then switch and watch what happens. With most I have tested, it's not good. This setup also avoids some major problems with these types of chicom inverters, mainly neutral/ ground bonding and also putting the internal transformer in parallel with the grid. I could go on with the list of risks for these types of inverters. Not all inverters have these kinds of problems, but these ones do.
Low budget Chinese made, high frequency, transformerless inverters have much shorter life expectancies and poorer peak power capacities than more reliable, heavy duty, low frequency, transformer-based inverters. And because there's no transformer in these inverters, there's no galvanic isolation between the DC boost stage and the AC output which makes for less safe operation during a catastrophic failure of the H-bridge circuit and the AC output monitoring circuitry. For just a few hundred dollars more, you can buy a low frequency, transformer-based inverter charger with MPPT which provides a much higher surge capacity, a built in AC transfer switch, grid or generator battery charger with automatic generator start and a much longer life expectancy with galvanic isolation.
The HF inverters are only used for charging. The AC output is unused. The loads are powered from LF inverters. The big blue ones are LF for exactly this reason. Thanks for watching
@@mikemiller9119 200A * 240Vac = 48kVA; at the panel you should only have 80% of 200A worth of loads... maybe that's what you're thinking of? It's still 38.4kVA way more than this undersized 24kVA system.
I didn't build this house, so I am working with what I got. I have 3 200 amp panels to get off the grid. I have swapped HVAC systems and done my best to lower my loads, but it is what it is.
For sure. If emergency power systems were treated like utility companies, I would need 96kwh. I have been measuring the loads for 2+ years and 24kwh has been my maximum. I'm not taking the water heaters off grid, so my real maximum would be somewhere around 19kw. Time will tell for sure.
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Math is bad. It's 72 panels total
Please let me know who you used to install the panels. I'm in the north Dallas area.
@@fate711I use Edgar. He is awesome. Happy to share contact info.
@@BecomingOffgrid yes please send me his info.
Excellent and awesome large setup .🤙I know you’re very proud of your system in operation that can run your whole house . 🤗May the solar be with you . 😊😊
Thank you for watching
Great video. You have a well designed system. Takes me back to living on a private airport, so much fun.
Thank you very much! Thank you for watching
Very cool! Off-grid 5yrs here in Upstate NY and couldn’t imagine ever going back on-grid!
Great setup you’ve got there Boss! 😎
Where in Upstate? I am from there!
Hey bub, super proud of you. That's amazing!!
Thank you! It's been a lot of work.
Central Texas here, thank you for sharing this
You are quite welcome
What would you like to see next?
We also use the Blue Sun panels (460x bi-facials) Awesome panels. Did you get all your stuff from Signature? You mentioned North Texas. That's where we are too (Bridgeport area). And yes, we had to enlist help to get the panels up on the barn. Thanks!
I did get all my panels there. It's nice to be able to just drive over and pick them up.
Awesome setup.
Thank you!
Impressive setup. I love that it runs everything. I think that's everyone's end goal, but some of the big loads flat out require a big solar investment.
I still don't have my hot water heaters off the grid yet. It's really hard because it's not just power generation to consider, it's also energy efficient loads as well.
In western australia you can buy a rocket stove 300 litre hot water tank, just saying.@@BecomingOffgrid
Cooling is my big load, I honestly wish it was heat. So many options
Interesting note on the bifacial panels, I put white EPDM under one array and have desert tan under the other. I should say desert tan asphalt shingles. There is more output from the desert tan shingles than the panels sitting on a white EPDM roof.
That is interesting. I'm curious what kinds materials could increase the output of my west array.
Looking good!
Thank you!!! I'm going to do more in depth stuff for each segment of the system. Pretty much a why and how.
@@BecomingOffgrid Looking forward to it! I am still rocking the Growatt's and the control panel I built off your version for the auto transformers, I have 6 inverters running on that system. I am working on another system of 3 or 4 Growatt's, control panel, and auto transformer. It will power my shed, or charge 2 EV's, and will be a backup to my 6 inverter system if something were to fail. Both systems will charge the same aprox 200kwh battery bank. I am totally off the grid now. I love too see how everyone does stuff just a little bit different.
Oh for sure. There is nothing wrong with the Growatts and AT's at all. They are solid units. Mine are probably going to end up in the barn to provide service out there. Out of curiosity how is the control panel setup working for you?
@@BecomingOffgrid It is working great! I am using the 50 amp relays, I have put over 100amps of load on it for long periods with no issues. I used the shunt trip breakers, the only thing that sucks is you have to manually reset them if something drops power.
@@snoflite5234Yea that part of the design does kinda suck. Hopefully it's minimal. You could always replace the manual bootstrap switches with another protection relay (240v one). Then it would automatically come back on. Risk vs reward I guess.
If it happens infrequently, then the shunt trips are maximum protection. The system should save your house in the event of a failure.
Nice job🎉
Thanks 😁
good for you!
Thank you
I am very impressed with the system. I have been playing around with Solar for a few years. I don't mean this in a bad way, but with all you have I am guessing you can spend what you want and need for your system? Solar can become very pricy and your equipment alone runs into many thousands of dollars. Again very impressed and jealous of that nice of system, I have a small Frankenstein system as the Pros call it.
I have been buying in piece parts for many many years. I wait for deals to come up and then buy things one at a time. This wasn't a single large purchase, I wish I had that kind of money.
If I had all the money I wanted, I would have bought Sol-Ark's or the EG4 18K inverters. I got all of this gear on the cheap. I also would have been able to pay someone to put it all together. Hence why you see kind of a mishmash of things for the system.
Additionally, I am making a bet that the cost of electricity if going to go up massively over the next 10 years. This in my mind is a investment in my own future. To me this is critical for the security and sustainability for my families future. I feel like its 1999 and this is a gasoline tank that fills itself back up at 1999 prices. The cost of solar equipment tracks the cost of electric. When those prices go up, so does the cost of the gear. Right now is the time to make the investment before it spirals out of control. Time will tell if I am right or not. I have no idea what the future holds.
www.eia.gov/outlooks/steo/report/elec_coal_renew.php
Thanks for watching
@@BecomingOffgrid I was impressed with what you have. It was the first time I watched one of our videos and was like WOW that's nice. Please understand I didn't mean that in a bad way or in disrespect in anyway. I been playing around with and fully understand the coast of Solar and the many things that go with it. IMO you are doing the right thing as you stated it's only going to get higher priced all around. We all need to be looking into being more stable on our own. I moved out of the big city and haven't gotten mine all back together yet. I am planning on doing as you have and start back a little at a time to add to what I have. I am in Florida and the storms knock out power from time to time. I have special needs child and have enough to run lights, Refreg. fans to keep going if need be. Keep pushing forward as the time will come it will be much needed IMO. Thank You for the reply and information.
Oh I didn't feel like you said anything cross at all. I have been collecting parts for this system for a long time and just now got it all together.
Thank you for watching my videos!
Impressive!! A lot of what I’ve read about the Mpp & Sungold inverters has been negative but it looks like you’ve got them working great. Those two 12ks are beasts! really like your use of the manual transfer switches for sub panels. That’s how I’m starting off. I suspect that the age of your home and its insulation values are causing you to use more power for air conditioning than you’d like, but you’re typically less humid than I am in central TX, so that helps. New Sub and look forward to keeping up with your progress! 👍⚡️💡😁
It's actually the number of windows in my house. I have floor to ceiling windows everywhere and it's killing me. Lol
The manual transfer switches were used because from what I can figure, it's the only way to meet code for my particular situation
@@BecomingOffgrid that makes sense. My builder thought I was crazy when i said “fewer windows please”. 🫣. In TX cooling your house is akin to an extra car payment half the year!
My bill was bananas. Like just crazy. Whole reason I started this journey.
@@BecomingOffgridhave you thought about doing ceramic tint ? Supposed to drop uv like 85%
Amazing job, congrats.
Are those 12kw in parallel?
They are not. I have two 200amp panels, so they are not and cannot be connected in parallel.
Very nicely done... looks fantastic! 👍
Quick question...I see those huge tools of red & black PV wire. Do you have a link to where to buy? Thx!
I got them from signature solar. Its ADC UL listed wire.
signaturesolar.com/1000ft-10-awg-copper-pv-wire-black-and-red-30-amp/
52kWpv…facing mostly S, some SW and a little SE, angled 45 to 66°. 210kWh diy LFP and a Trophy220.
Totally off-grid in an all electric home, standard 80 gal HWH, 8.25 Tons of 16-33 SEER heat pumps. Wood burner if needed below 25F and cloudy. Manual transfer switch can be flipped, a call to the power company and a small turn-on fee paid if I croak someone wants to go back on the unreliable grid. Living totally off grid in an above average size home today is doable. You better plan on not buying that new pick up truck.
Holy Crap!!! I would love to see some videos or pictures
Canada or Alaska?
Cool system 😎
Thanks for watching!
Hey! How can I get Edgars contact information? I'm in North Texas and need to get some panels on my metal roof
Absolutely. I am on the diysolar forum.
diysolarforum.com/members/automatikdonn.39363/
you must place a fire extinguisher nearby. thanks
That is a great point! Thank you so much for sharing
I bought some extinguishers. This is a really great oversight on my part to point out. Thank you so much!
Massive set up . When does the next video come out?
I am hoping this weekend. I am think I may show the DC side first and explain how it works and what not.
@@BecomingOffgrid okay good looking forward to see that video
Thank you!
Next video is out
@@BecomingOffgrid got it im going to watch it now
If they're connected to the grid, how are you Off The Grid?
Well I would start by saying there are a couple of models you can use. The grid is my backup service instead of being my primary.
I think people kinda fall into 3 camps.
1. Easy and fast solar - these are the grid tie crowd and they are just trying to save money on the power bill. (nothing wrong with this btw)
2. Off-grid enthusiast - These people are just trying to get some freedom of where and how they consume from the grid. While these are not 100% off-grid they are usually trying to get as close as their budget will let them.
3. No Grid hardliner - These people usually don't even have a grid connection to begin with. When a home is engineered with this in mind from the get-go its really not that hard to do. Also the people that fall in this camp want to be dependent on nobody.
I am a #2. I don't have the money to get completely off the grid - it would probably cost me another 20 or 30k to get there because my house wasn't built with efficiencies of an off grid only home. I can't fix those problems, but I can do my best in my budget. I have only one appliance left on the grid and that is my 2 water heaters.
This is a great question and something I do plan to address in a future video.
@@BecomingOffgrid With respect, a bit more conventional terms are; 1: Grid Tie/Net Metering (may be able to store excess production, may not) 2: Hybrid (This is you, using ~100% of production, grid when need is excess of production.) 3: Off Grid (could have a generator, but zero grid tie). Though personally I include water and sewage to be completely off grid.
@@davidfifth6109 My water and sewage are off grid. Having the grid as a backup source is just that - it's a source. I also have generator as a backup source.
Is it good or bad idea to keep battery,charge controller,inverter in a separate air conditioning room to maintain cool temperature?? Most of the time heat reaches 36,37C here.
If I could, I would have built a whole building just to house all of this stuff. It would have been so much easier.
How much did the whole system cost? And how much more are you going to have to spend to get the water heaters off grid too?
It was quite expensive if I am being honest. I have a 150kw per day load to cover. It was about 70k all in. For the water heater I just need to replace the two I have with a single heat pump based unit and I shouldn't have any more to spend after that.
Mind you I have bought all of these parts over the last few years and with the equipment out now, I could have easily saved 10k.
@@BecomingOffgrid That's a 10 year payback assuming 12c per kWh grid power. Not bad considering it's a hobby as well.
@@antronx7When rates go up over the next few years I am expecting a 7 year payback.
@@BecomingOffgrid Good point. Grid power will only get more expensive.
Wow nice
Thank you!
Nice!
Thank you for watching!
so how do you have enough total power to be fully off grid? I have 36 panels and 2 tesla powerwall batteries and cant run my home. in fact i still pay nearly 200 per month to the grid! do you not have an air conditioner? I have ac and well and 2450 sq foot home plus lights and a workshop and she shed hooked up. the workshop and she shed are hardly used or using power. my batteries only give about 1 or 2 hours of power when fully charged.
What does Tesla say?
@@johnfitbyfaithnet not tesla, the seller. poor design. but the batteries cannot provide that much power for a whole night. they run dry in about 3 hours without ac but half with ac running.and in steamy hot florida ac is mandatory.
I have what would equal 4 Tesla power walls and I have 72 panels facing all directions but north. I have everything except the hot water heater off the grid completely. I will be doing some updates on how it all works soon.
@@BecomingOffgrid I cleared another 2 acres just for ground mounted but my power cable run is about 2 to 3 hundred yards. how much loss will i have? was looking to put as high powered as possible on the ground and run to a battery building.
@@jeffpaul8260 It would be best to send that as high voltage underground before converting it for starters. We cannot calculate your loss at all without tons more information. If your 36 panels are all facing the same direction, it means they are all peaking and setting together instead of extending the time they can generate power. 2 Powerwalls might not be enough to use all your energy instead of sending mid day energy to the grid.
Looks like I need to do now is get yourself an electric vehicle or two. I couldn’t help to notice all of the gasoline cans hanging around what’s going on there?
I don't think that technology is there just yet. I know that models that are in the works are moving to a safer battery chemistry.
I just recently tried to pickup an F150 lightning and they tried to knock me over the head on my trade.
wow nice!!
Thank you for watching!
Some of the panels face north and south or some face east and west?
East, South East and west is my configuration
Would a video on why I am doing that way be something you would watch?
@@BecomingOffgrid Sure!, I have my own arrays at South 180° and Southwest 205°. I’d be interested in your take on the subject.
Aren't those 3 mpp 8048 units actual inverters also. If im understanding your setup correctly you are basically just using them as charge controllers right? And emergency charging from the grid if needed.. You arent actually using them as inverters correct?the two large blue LF inveters are actually supplying your AC loads. Why not use the 3 yellow units as your inverters and omit the 2 blue units. Just curious
Because then I would have to handle switching between grid and off grid. The 8048 units are 240v only, so I would need auto transformers, which is problematic when switching to grid power. This way I never switch to grid, I just charge the battery instead.
It's not the most efficient model, but it does separate areas of concern. It's not for everyone, but it's what I wanted out of my system.
Thanks for watching!
I gotcha, makes sense now. Especially that those 3 units are 240v only. I agree it's nice to be able to charge from the grid if you wanted without actually having to be attached to the grid with your inverter. I think they technically make a stand alone charger but then you'd have even more components haha. I use outback charge controllers but they aren't cheap and solar input is limited to 150voc yours are actually a better alternative. With the added benefit of grid charging like you said. Awesome system by the way
Thank you!
I have the dedicated chargers too, they are wired to my generator
Were thoes Seplos batteries? How many amp hour? Were they running everything?
I have seplos, eel and Apexium. 93kwh in total for battery power.
Get the Apexium units. Much better post sale experience
@@BecomingOffgridIf I order through Jenny Wu, who would I talk with for post sale issues?
I just go to Jenny and she directs me to the right person
would put a victron smart shunt in with the victron busbar
I will probably use a lynx shunt, but I don't know what I really get from it. The BMS in the battery reports it's status to Solar Assistant and so do the MPP inverters.
@@BecomingOffgrid You don't want the lynx shunt as you aren't using a Victron solution, just the smart shunt will give you everything you need and more.
does combiner box have diodes ?or lightning protection
Not yet, but it's on my list. It's debatable if they even work.
FWIW they did ship with lighting protection in them, I just couldn't fit them in the box with my setup.
Why so complex? 3*8=24kwt + 2*12=24kwt invertors. So 5 invertors for 48 kwt total. If you was able just to install 2*12kwt hybrid invertors that will do all same that this 5 do. They take less space and cost chipper, and all this just will become more simple to maintain in future. In any case what done that done, so good luck with your system.
3 out of 5 don't make split phase power, so they are just charge controllers. It's not as complex as it looks. Also with a 2.inverter setup, when it switches to grid power there is a very short drop in power. Sensitive electronics don't like that. This system will be more reliable in the long run.
@@BecomingOffgrid It is strange, i have Deye 12kwt hybrid invertor. And switching grid or solar off/on does not affect electricity at home at all. Even my desktop PC is not rebooting even on high load.
And my electric car continue charging as well.
Put a scope in an outlet and then switch and watch what happens. With most I have tested, it's not good. This setup also avoids some major problems with these types of chicom inverters, mainly neutral/ ground bonding and also putting the internal transformer in parallel with the grid.
I could go on with the list of risks for these types of inverters. Not all inverters have these kinds of problems, but these ones do.
Where do you ride your sxs
Bridgeport and Red River currently. Any good tips??? Thanks for watching!
@BecomingOffgrid not really I'm in las vegas
Any good riding out that way?
@@BecomingOffgrid yes but it's hard pack and rocky . But open so you can go pretty fast
@@natesoffroadWhen I get the RV setup done Vegas is on my list.
Low budget Chinese made, high frequency, transformerless inverters have much shorter life expectancies and poorer peak power capacities than more reliable, heavy duty, low frequency, transformer-based inverters. And because there's no transformer in these inverters, there's no galvanic isolation between the DC boost stage and the AC output which makes for less safe operation during a catastrophic failure of the H-bridge circuit and the AC output monitoring circuitry. For just a few hundred dollars more, you can buy a low frequency, transformer-based inverter charger with MPPT which provides a much higher surge capacity, a built in AC transfer switch, grid or generator battery charger with automatic generator start and a much longer life expectancy with galvanic isolation.
The HF inverters are only used for charging. The AC output is unused. The loads are powered from LF inverters. The big blue ones are LF for exactly this reason.
Thanks for watching
What an absurdly complicated system
What makes you say that?
It took 24k to take you off grid? Wtf are you doing, dude?
Common new home construction utility service is 48kVA. What are you asking?
@@niceridelol, no it’s not. But I still want to know why this guy is using so much electricity. 72 panel is a lot of power.
@@mikemiller9119 200A * 240Vac = 48kVA; at the panel you should only have 80% of 200A worth of loads... maybe that's what you're thinking of? It's still 38.4kVA way more than this undersized 24kVA system.
I didn't build this house, so I am working with what I got. I have 3 200 amp panels to get off the grid. I have swapped HVAC systems and done my best to lower my loads, but it is what it is.
For sure. If emergency power systems were treated like utility companies, I would need 96kwh. I have been measuring the loads for 2+ years and 24kwh has been my maximum. I'm not taking the water heaters off grid, so my real maximum would be somewhere around 19kw. Time will tell for sure.
This is not off grid at all. I'm off grid... I used 0W from the grid in the last 3 years cause I got... No grid.
Good for you.