We already have many channels who focus on modern Yugioh and the meta game, We need a place we can go and watch some casual Yu-Gi-Oh content, so keep it up you guys
@@JW-dp4wengl back then i made exodia deck aswell. I am not into link and xyz and all that bs so i made that 15 minute play exodia ftk to piss people off who love to otk. Sometimes turn took almost 20 minutes and i had people surrender
amakudari jp is pretty casual as well and him constantly get 100k views, if you want a pure casual experience you can just watch his video when he made budget vaalmonica vs blue eyes light and darkness dragon, even in between casual decks, one deck just will stomp others.
duels that last for more than 3 turns with each turn lasting less than 5 minutes with actual back and forth, drawing your last pathetic card for it to be not a pathetic card to turn the duel around its so much more fun than playing pure meta 3 turns of 20 minutes each, opponent surrenders if he bricked or you counter played one thing or other way around you get counter played constantly
I disagree with "drawing out of a bricked hand into a win" that is no fun either. The best duels have been the ones where both me and my oponent are careful with our resources and there's a bunch of mind games going on trying to figure out how to win the resource game without being too careless.
I hope you are ready for a bunch of modern players to come and insult you about how it's "no fun when the game takes more then 3 turns". every time I say almost exactly what you said here I always get delusional modern players jumping on me talking about how "boring it is" or "how much of a slog" that kind of game is. they don't understand that exact attitude is what drives away new players or returning old ones, and then they wonder why no new players are joining the game. yugioh was fun when it was chess, but it's nothing more then an actual gun duel now. NEW players want a game where they can think of each turn as it happens, read their card and understand what that card does based on the current field. they do not want to learn what 500 cards do by heart to just *know* instinctively what a card they drew is for
3 turn matches happens because so many new archetypes have like 2 or 3 effects for one card. Honestly, I blame the card designs for modern cards, since it obviously makes old cards obsolete, and normalizing deck building with 3 or 4 cards of an archetype with 3 or hand traps.
As a Casual player, i agree 👍playing low tier decks can be a struggle. but when you match against a deck of similar power level, the games are very fun, back and forth, and can go for 10+ turns
Wanting Team APS doing modern Yugioh content is like watching the Vattle City arc and expecting Kaiba to give a 30-minute long explanation of how he made the duel disks, complete with schematics and assembly. It would be interesting to some people, but most are here to watch Yugi and Kaiba make up card edicts at each other.
I like the old school dueling stuff, but it will be cool to go a little further in Yugioh's history. Like in Edison, HAT, or anything before 2013. Yugioh is more than the first two series.
I had a duel that went on for an hour and 40 minutes on master duel it was my blue eyes vs dmg deck and in the end i made a missplay which he ended up beating me on. That's the type of Yu-Gi-Oh i love
Bruh, I'm devout Blue-Eyes and I had this kind of duel against an Eldlich player. I absolutely LOVED the back-and-forth between us, and even though he managed to outlast me, everything had the right kind of tension, every move was a "Heart of the Cards" moment, and the thrill and challenge of fighting such a lengthy duel made me see him as a worthy opponent.
exactly me (even age). I've been collecting speed dual cards since they somewhat resemble a more vanilla yugioh, although the recent packs include more advanced mechanics. I don't have anyone to play with tho lol. Would LOVE to see a rerelease of the original starter decks. There's a product called yugi ex starter box, it's awesome but the cards are all in japanase. If only they released something like that in the US..
@@pablolopes5736 That's me too (even age!). No idea what the modern game is about, but love collecting the old stuff and watching these videos. Also nobody to play with 😂
Love the old-school videos. It helped me get back into the current game, at least at a casual level. Allowed me to seek out and find a deck that is somewhat competitive but still casual and not full meta in a Budget Branded Despia deck that fits how I like to play.
What I've noticed about casual play is that once you get a few years behind the meta, the range of decks that have reasonable matchups against each other expands massively. I can whip out a Fortune Lady deck and have a decent chance of winning just by recurring the synchro a bunch. I think because these decks involve larger packages and fewer starters, you get more variation between duels, and fewer situations where someone opens their perfect combo. Which is a bit luck-sack, but if we didn't like having a bit of luck influence, we'd have houseruled "choose your starting hand" decades ago. The challenge to enjoying casual play is that no one is supporting what I consider Good Yugioh. Goat is popular but doesn't feel like Yugioh. Edison is somewhat popular but predates the archetype boom. Date-of-release-based restrictions on which cards are legal just isn't the right approach to creating an optimal format.
I agree, making formats limiting cards usable by when they were released can be fun, but it is imperfect. Limiting things to the synchro era or earlier leaves out a bunch of problematic modern cards, but it also ends up leaving out newer decks that don't see any play, Like Aquaactresses or Chemicritters. An idea I've had for a while is a lot more complicated, but would likely make for a healthier environment. Making tiered formats like Smogon does for Pokemon, where lower-tier stuff can be used in higher tiers, but not the other way around. So your Tearlaments and Snake-Eyes would be Uber, while your Vehicroids and Venoms would be NU. Obviously, there would also have to be tiers for individual cards as well, which is where the complicated nature comes into play, not to mention that not all parts of an archetype are created equal. E Heroes might get UU, but Flame Wingman/Rampart Blaster/Steam Healer are not the same as Sunrise/Neos Wingman/Absolute Zero.
Hindsight format is a cool concept but I feel we gotta move on from the "Synchros and XYZs aren't old school" mindset, it's all about selection, Tin Archduke would fit in a 2004 deck fine
@@whyishoudini There's so many of each extra deck type that would fit perfectly in ancient decks. Vortex the Whirlwind, Mechquipped Angineer, Ghost Beef/Mild Turkey, Agave Dragon doesn't seem too OP for a late GX format.
I agree with most of it. My friend and I play DM vs Blue Eyes with 'new cards' but they must mention DM or Blue eyes. So no handtraps or crazy engines or extra deck shenanigans. And we regularly play this rather than our 'best' decks with all the meta cards. Because it's more fun, it's more balanced. We don't know whose gonna win based on who went first. And the duels are always more exciting than active bonfire, resp? Ash blossom.
I quit modern almost two years ago, but I LOVED casual modern. Playing edison now, and I would like to do casual modern but it's hard to get power balance down and I'm not spending money on cards that are still decently expensive only to use them casually.
Yeah I wanted to play casual modern but even on master duel casual mode people are playing top tier decks... The only fun I've had is with my nephew playing with 3x structure decks
honestly, Team APS videos got me back into the game. it really helped bridged the gap for me into Master Duel. Slowly I've been adding more knowledge, but its nice to watch videos that aren't 10 minutes of combos.
I deliberately play bad casual decks that are worse than rogue. The decks I typically play include Gate Guardian, pure Flame Swordsman, Pure Shining Sarcophagus, Gren Maju/Golden Castle of Stromberg, the new Exodia support, and Darklords. When I play on duelingbook and ask my opponents to bring weak decks of roughly the same strength I regularly have people telling me how much they enjoyed playing against my deck compared to other decks running around. In my Darklord deck, for example, I run 10,000 Dragon as well as Legendary Maju Garzett for solely the meme value because I'm there to have fun and make lolzy plays instead of being a 20-minute combo break-my-board sweatlord. And at best my decks might get one negate monster on the field. Moreover all of these decks have turns that are reasonable in length. If you're casual like me you have to make your own fun in Yugioh and it's a shame that Konami wont do more to accomodate those who don't like the current formats.
Do you have a decklist for your flame swordsman deck? I’m just getting back into yugioh and the sound of super bad casual decks with friends sounds like a blast, but I suck at making decks and don’t even know where to start.
Hi Pau! Figured I’d chime in because honestly I’m having more fun than ever in yugioh rn. My shop doesn’t have tournaments it’s simply casual play. People bring decks of many different levels. But you can almost always find someone who’s best suited to face a deck of your power. While there’s still something’s I could complain about, these concerns rarely come up during the casual games. Best part is if I get tired of modern I just hop back into goat or Edison! I still can cook weird decks for those formats. They don’t seem to get stale. This game for me is about getting a bit stoned and having some fun! Love your content. You are a pillar of this community. Thank you so much for your work.
I respect your honesty in coming out and saying that keeping your view count up is one of your priorities. Of course it's true for almost any TH-camr, but few are quick to admit that there are real "business" considerations regarding their content. I'm one of those who really appreciate the themed, flavorful dues you guys play. For me, the fun of tabletop gaming is in the byplay between the players as the game state gradually develops and they try to outmaneuver each other. I've tried watching more modern competitive-style duels, but it so often comes down to the players just shuffling their cards between their decks, hands, and GYs until there's 8000+ damage available and a player declares victory. I imagine that if I were one of the players, I'd take a book with me to keep busy while waiting for a turn to end. When Duel Links introduced Trickstars, I once set my phone down while the AI started its turn, made a decent sandwich, and came back to find the turn hadn't finished yet (the game log recorded 15 summons in that turn). I quit soon after. I do understand how that style of game can be fun, especially for players who treat the intricate card interactions as puzzles to solve, but I prefer to do puzzles on my own rather than with an opponent or as a spectator.
This is exactly why I like the channel. Im out of the game for about 15 years, I still collect very casually and I love to see decks in action that I can actually understand without knowing what the current meta is.
The key takeaway here is relaxing. Old school formats tend to be much more relaxing to play since you're not going to auto lose if you cant make or break a board on the first turn. The slower formats also tend to allow for more whacky techs to be messed with in decks (for example I play The fiend megacyber, basically cyber dragon before cyber dragon, in my chaos warrior deck for goat format and it puts in work).
Recently a random channel decided to upload the entire Yugi vs Kaiba battle city final in Japanese. I showed it to some friends who either only play modern yugioh because they play with me or because their introduction was modern yugioh. The result from showing them the duel was unanimously "I wish playing yugioh could have back and forth like that" or "I miss old school yugioh". Obviously meta yugioh was always a thing, even back in 2004, but that sentiment plays a big role on whether or not people want to play yugioh in general. Having content in that vain I think is very important, its because of your videos I even thought to buy structure decks to play with friends in person in a sort of round robin because the games last longer and just feel better.
A great back and forth moden duel is Traptrix vs Sky Striker. I play Traptrix on Master Duel and the times I have faced Sky Striker are always great back and forth duels with a ton of interactions.
I just love yugioh, old and new. I have plenty of other channels to watch for modern stuff. It would be cool to see a modern duel once in a while though, but if not the casual stuff is perfectly fine
I partially agree. There are epic comebacks and plays in modern decks, every time I go at locals I have at least one unexpected match that has the most fun interactions and turn of events. I see where you coming from and yes, it is true that those exciting plays are cool to watch on classic decks, but that doesn't mean that never happens in modern. And not saying you're making excuses up, but I always explain my effects and talk while playing and have no problems with it, contrary to the popular belief of having to be 100% focused looking at your cards and just saying "special, response?".
I think the reason why casual is more interesting is because the decks actually have weaknesses not to say that meta doesn't have weaknesses they absolutely do. They have significantly less and as a result when they pull off their big scary end board you need very specific cards and hope it is enough. I like that you brought up brain control what makes it a strong card is you are taking a monster you opponent went through a lot of effort to summon and using it against them which now begs the question does your opponent let you destroy them with said monster or do they destroy their stolen monster to protect them? Heck what if you just use it to summon one of your own monsters? A lot of things can happen from a card like brain control however there is just as many things that can go wrong. Meta might not prepare for this exact scenario but they might have something equivalent. So casual decks have to deal with potential holes in their strategy and could be interrupted however maybe the opponent only has 1 and you can quickly recover from it without a easy way of getting to another interruption. Basically with casual decks their is smaller likelihood of your opponent always having the out. Not to say they cannot draw it however they might draw it too late or even too early for it to be useful.
While I do enjoy the older content and wouldn't want you to stop, I think once a year it would be really fun to see a Team APS Tournament where you play each other with your real decks. Playing those real tournament decks a little more often also let's us connect to you through modern play. Not saying you have to go full meta snake eyes, but at least some high level Rogue decks every once in awhile.
I think it's fun to watch a back and forth between 2 players with a great board setup over time with counterplay. However, I understand the power scaling is high octane, but it's like a flash fire; it burns hot, but for such a short time that it never lasts. For example, imagine a UFC fight where only 1 fighter is throwing punches and kicks for the entire round while the other fighter just sits there and takes there, then for round 2 the other fighter tries to throw a punch, just for 1st fighter to start throwing more punches and kicks while the other fighter is forced to sit there again. Does that sound like fun?
The reaon I started playing Yu-Gi-Oh again is because of the skits you guys do. I love seeing you guys go at it with retro and classic decks you'd see in the GOAT era and even Edison sometimes. You guys are just the best and one of the only channels I've seen in modern days that still plays Yu-Gi-Oh how we remember from way back when. Nothing but wishes of luck and success in this Yugituber Journey ❤❤❤
Interactivity is key to me. In OG you don't always want to play a card because maybe you can bait out an MSQ or Dark Hole, which are crucial. You can't bait hand traps, as everything you do is key, so the hand trap is always max value.
I like both causal and competitive. I prefer casual, but I don't really have anyone to play with outside of the locals scene. Of course, that means I mostly play competitively, albeit at a much lower level. I don't like the "set weak normal monster, pass" old school Yu-Gi-Oh! However, I still have more fun playing either older cards or lower-powered cards. I just wish I would have more opportunities to do so.
Because casual Yugioh allows for more interaction and back-and-forth, comeback are much more feasable and decks and strats are much more varied, which makes the game not feel stale
I enjoy rogue decks the most. I play galaxy Photon, RDA, mekk Knights, magical musketeers, true Draco, infernoids, VS, sky strikers, cyber dragons etc Most of these decks got direct or indirect support the last couple of years. Be it stuff like morganite for true draco or thrust for cyber dragons or direct support Like Galaxy, RDA or strikers.
I love the content you guys make! This is the only channel I can get the nostalgic feeling from my childhood. I wouldn’t mind seeing you mess around with your Voiceless Voice deck tho. I also play it and would enjoy seeing your perspective while dueling with it and what engines you think mesh well with the deck. It is a pretty simple deck tho so idk how in depth of a video you could make off it.
As someone who stopped playing Yugioh back in 2010 and played a bit of Master Duel Solo content when that came out, god damn is the mental load of everything that is happening insanely high now. If you don't know how any given archetype functions it is not an easy task to grasp what is going on. Hell, I remember back in high school showing a friend my Gladiator Beast deck and he was floored at what that could do compared to the Yugioh he knew and I imagine GBs are insanely tame by modern standards. Also, as someone who's gotten more interested in Yugioh again recently it was specifically your video on Lightsworn that did it since that was an archetype that seemed so cool to me back when I was still playing and I wanted to see what the video was about and honestly it seemed sweet. It also helped a ton since I know that archetype.
some people can't see yugioh beyond the show or the competitive scene, not enough people see yugioh as a fun to play game and actually invent fun ways to play.
The difference between casual duels and competitive duels is: Competitive decks: 1% of cards that exist. Casual decks: 99% of cards that exist. Casual decks have the freedom to choose what cards they want to use, making separate duels actually different from each other. A lot of competitive decks go for the same (or very similar) combos every single duel, and it gets stale. People who only play modern meta might not even realize just how many cards exist, they're too busy calling said cards "Bad" for not being in the top 1% of power level.
Not *quite* what the video is about but Constructed junk has been the most fun to take to locals. I've been showing my community how pre-fiendsmith Vaalmonica works. "It's not good, but it's better than you think."
Your videos got me back into "real" yugioh after playing master duel for a while. Watching your videos made me realise playing the tcg is a lot more fun. So I'm not really playing the kind of "casual" duels but I'm definitely glad to be playing in person instead of online.
I'm more on the casual side myself as well, and what I have noticed is that people love playing decks that are just below competitive with some jank cards added to it. Especially in a draft setting. I'm on Hardleg's server and there are a bunch of people there who host deck build challenge tournaments that are very casual orriented. The most attended tournaments have been the 2 draft tournaments, where we use YGOPRO's pack simulator to make our own packs to have the players draft from. While it takes a lot of time and effort to set up such a tournament (pack creation and testing), and getting the balance right between all of the packs, it has been an incredible fun way to play this game. Would definitly recommend
The one thing i always wanted you guys to try, was playing with 2013-2016 era decks like BA, shadolls, satellars, qlis etc. The duels are fast enough to not look "boring", but nowhere near as fast as modern duels that people have trouble following.
Love your point that less people would want to watch Old Meta like "Spyral VS Zoodiac"? But more people would still love to see "Gate Guardian VS HERO" contents
Low key a fun idea can be battles of massive archetypes and see how they differ (also no outside hand traps or engines). Like performapal has sooo many cards so have 3 of everything but each player drafts the cards from entire pool to see how they differ. Can even do chaos since there’s endless chaos cards too like chaos dragon thunder or warrior in particular.
I really enjoyed the Light vs Dark theme duel y'all did a few weeks back and think using all the new support is a nice change of pace from more anime and old school duels. Stuff like Duel Terminal or World Legacy lore duels might appeal well to casual fans.
My favorite play from you guys that was so hype was during your rare hunter where Alec wagered his lava golem and on the turn he played lava golem to attempt to burn you for game and I thought Paul was done, Paul used two-pronged attack to kill lava golem and then swing for game. That was more hype to me than any modern duel play.
Create time queues as a pop-up that says "pause an google" or "pause and read" this card if you dont understand, to create less verbal interaction an save time
I’d say modern decks are still fun if you take out engines and hand traps that aren’t associated with that archetype. You should try duel videos like that. Since I feel there’s tons of cards for certain decks that never see any play. Would be cool to see the intended way the deck was designed.
keep up the casual videos. also more archetypes for me to try out that are super unique. superheavys, traptrix, magical musketeers, and now i am thinking of weatherpainters annnd plumber patrols.
Love the regular APS content. I think it would be great when there's a ban list or when the format shifts, you guys could do deck profiles for what you were playing.
I like anime decks and on that note I'd like to make a suggestion, could you do more matchups from the Gx-Arc-V eras? Because the youngest of that series is 10 years old now, they are at the point where any one of them are nostalgic for various groups of people so that checkmark gets ticked and adds some more variety
Yeah i just got into master duel. I hadn't played Yu-Gi-Oh since gx era and back then i had a neo dalius deck so it's been a wild ride for me, started with a blue eyes deck and now Im rocking a modern cyberdragon deck. I've learned the modern game now and I'm in platinum 2 but i can't stop facing snake eyes players and they makes the game so boring for me 🥲😔 i understand how snake eyes and kashtira decks work but honestly i find it boring so i don't know what to play next
I really like your channel, so i watch every single video of you guys because it feels like chilling with the homies. I would like to suggest videos that you could possibly do that others might find interesting. Id love to see your Horus deck broken down in a video. Im in love with the Horus and Imsety cards!
I like to make use of my surplus/common cards (for financial reason-lets face it, we have a ton of unused cards), as i pick random cards and play them with my friend; while attempting to create a unique deck, or have some type of challenge. Like, build a strategy around or involves Dreamsprite. My friend and i, used to be competitive, and he didn’t have patience for technical rules. I played Reckless Greed when he played Giant Trunade. He thought that I couldn’t do that, but a normal trap is spell speed 2, and either he forgot that, or couldn’t contextualize that play. Anyway, that was our last duel. So, years later, i told him, we’re playing yugioh, but with basic cards, nothing too complicated or combo-heavy. I get it, though, filming makes for different a 3rd person watching a non-meta deck duel. If i were to film a particular deck that needs some explanations, i would have to put up a graphic of card text, highlight it ala Master Duel when an effect is currently being checked (ala chess, when you call for Check). That quality of life, in Master Duel is so good, in previous games, i had to parse which part of the card’s text is making the game prompting me for confirming an action.
We are all about casual duels in my house (I have 5 kids lol) and we have abunch of structure decks. Dark World, Albaz, Traptrix, Blue Eyes, Obelisk, Slifer, Fire Kings, Crimson King, Crystal Beasts etc and thats all we use. It keeps the games unpredictable and keeps them evenly matched.
I really wanna see underappreciated Pure Decks. I don't mean ""Rogue"" Decks that are just Meta Decks from 5+ years ago but actual off the map Decks. Pure Skull Servant, Suship, Gimmick Puppet, random Decks that didn't really do anything but are cool thematically.
Totally agree. I've tried to get my buddy into modern yugioh for like 5 years but it's really difficult to convince someone to learn a 20+ step combo and also line variations for when you get hit with interruption. On the other hand I can throw up an APS video and he can follow right along as opposed to if I put up a Jesse Kotton or Josh Schmidt video
My friend and I play super casual decks, almost like anime. We pick an archetype, and try to use only 1 of each of the cards from the archetype (unless 3 is absolutely required), even if some of the cards are garbage. The duels are usually so fun and engaging, with amazing back and forth, and comebacks. We did a Bakura vs Mako battle and my friend managed to get Destiny Board finished the turn before i would have won. The laughs and fun we have is priceless.
Narrative Yu-gi-oh is the main way I want to play, as a turbo-casual yugi-boomer. I still like playing powerful cards and combinations but I like when there is some effort and luck needed to pull it off. I can clearly see the appeal of super efficient deck searching, hand traps, and special summoning engines especially with big prizes on the line, but I just play Yu-gi-oh at home and to kill time at the LGS. I keep a handful of decks at similar power levels (GX / 5Ds kind of stuff) that generally play well with each other and am open to offering a game with them to anyone interested.
Back-and-forth duels are the best. There's satisfaction in completely shutting your opponent down, but both can enjoy themselves when it feels like every card could sway the outcome.
I completely agreed that casual oldschool videos are more fun to watch. I will only say that it doesn't have to be caveman yugioh with the vanilla monsters. I quite like the point in time where vanilla monsters weren't really a thing anymore and basically all the monsters being used were effect monsters. Simple cards like Maximum Six, Vampire Lady, Legendary Fiend, Gear Golem the Moving Fortress or cards like Earthquake or Shift or Interdimensional Matter Transporter. To me the best period in time is after GOAT, but before Edison. That's where I had the most fun
I commented after a mere moment or two into this, now, after listening to the full video. I think you could make videos explaining and showing a meta deck while everyone else tries playing older decks into it, partly as a joke, but also to showcase and teach a new deck to everyone while they all express the all too common woes of being completely out matched deck to deck. Like a heraldry deck playing against a kashteria deck.
Here and there viewer, been consuming alot more of your content over the last 2 weeks. Not invested as much in the game itself anymore but everyone’s knowledge and enjoyment playing together is what keeps my attention. Lately, it seems like alot of the negativity has been getting to you. I don’t think you have to explain yourself, just have fun. The nit-picky comments will always exist when it comes to any gaming content. Some ideas for structured games if not already done: Vanillas only X Attack limit Only fusion monsters can attack LP directly Spin a wheel of archetypes Fan submitted decks
Id like to see you and rhymestyle get together for a video and discuss this as you both seem to have similar backgrounds of playing both old and new but seemingly making more classic content. You could even do some goat duels followed by some current format duels to demonstrate the differences
I think casual duels are just plainly more fun. I left the game years ago because of the changing landscape. The games got way too fast and as others have expressed it's not fun to sit there for 15 minutes while you either get FTK'd or OTK'd by your opponent before you had a chance to do anything. Casual duels allowed for more lengthy games where each person takes their turn and sets up their board. There was the thrill of both players being low on LP and then clutch wins would occur. I've recently been coming back but just in the casual sense. No tournaments just a casual get together with others in the community.
I dont hate modern yugioh, i hate competitive yugioh cause everything just devolves into making the most degenerate way to lock the other player out of playing the game
I agree with this. There simply isn't a lot of narrative enjoyment from watching someone execute a 5 minute long combo while the other person sits there doing nothing.
meta duels might be temporary but thats a really good reason to cover it at least once. Like watch us play snake-eye before its dethroned. Its cool to go back in time to see when these decks were relevant years from now. and you guys doing it is much cooler than those super competitive channels out there. just my opinion
Stuff like the ebay decks and mystery boxes are usually my favourites, because that's my favourite way too play too. Come up with something on the spot and try to make it work
Agreed tbh. My experience with modern Yu-Gi-Oh which i think others might be also doing. Is I've got 2 mobile games on my phone. One of them is Arknights. Whenever my opponent starts to combo off and I dont have any handtraps. I literally start playing the roguelike mode and can sometimes setup my entire strategy in that map and lookup to see the enemy still hasnt finished their turn. Imagine being able to play another game for long enough that your halfway through the second game and your opponent is still playing their turn. Its nuts and not fun at all
I definitely want to see more Edison and Goat on the channel, or just the 5D's era in general because I feel like it's that prime yugioh of synchros and interesting interactions without having to read 3 paragraphs on every card
Yeah. 5D's Era was definitely Yugiohs prime. It was starting to get into comboing, but it wasn't anywhere near where we are at today, where you either have a full board of all of your boss monsters by turn 1 or you are guaranteed to lose in turn 2. It allowed a few sick combos, but no combo was so opressive that Yugioh turned into a single player game. There was still back and forth. 5D's was easily the prime of Yugioh.
Honestly, as a person who has been following the game for a while now but is coming from Magic the Gathering, I appreciate the slower games a Structure Deck can provide.
I really enjoyed the recent light vs dark-modern-not meta duel as much as the rare hunters, themed duels in general are great. Do you take suggestions? If so, how about some duels where you randomly get a) an attribute b) a type and c) a time period and you can only build a deck around those limitations to show off your deck building skills and knowledge. Kinda like creating a character for the anime. I bet sealed product duels are sometimes expensive and the cards are never to be used again 😂
Casual duel videos you guys make also include monsters that more people know exist. For me, there's a lot less interest when it comes to decks that I have 0 clue what they are. Though there's only so much OG DM vs Blue Eyes duals one can show and consume, but that's where creativity and yalls personality comes in. Like I'd love like an updated version of those kinds of decks to be shown in a video, that's of course designed around the main theme of those decks.
I dont really play yugioh anymore. I was deep into the competitive scene in 2017, but once links became super toxic as well as the rise of handtraps (and financial situations), I have taken a step back. I much prefer classic duels for YT content, they last more than one turn and are simple and easy to follow.
I get what you mean. Im a dueling grandpa (36) and though i dont play meta optimally i still build and accordingly. If i had a suggestion it would be this to mesh the preferences of your audience every once in a while Try having a tourney where you are allowed up to 3 forbidden cards in your deck however the catch is each player has to pick a different forbidden card from the others. It would be fun to see the forbidden cards getting some screen time and it would interest all of us just to see what kind of jank you all would come up with o.o food for thought
Completely unrelated to this video but I would love to know your thoughts about something. If the core rules were to change and every tribute summon were to be treated as a special summon, would anything change?
I cannot recall a single game of yugioh I’ve ever played or witnessed where there weren’t any misplays. Though I don’t typically watch tournament play.
I imagine, in addition to the things you mentioned, there's a novelty to seeing these older or lower power-level decks to people who play modern Yugioh.
We already have many channels who focus on modern Yugioh and the meta game, We need a place we can go and watch some casual Yu-Gi-Oh content, so keep it up you guys
That's because such content gets the most viewership
I love not dying on the first turn thanks.
Some guy in Master Duel Exodia'd me turn 1 before I even got a single play in lol.
@@JW-dp4we same here. It was ridiculous and I was bummed because I drew some good cards that I never got to play 🤣
@@JW-dp4wengl back then i made exodia deck aswell. I am not into link and xyz and all that bs so i made that 15 minute play exodia ftk to piss people off who love to otk. Sometimes turn took almost 20 minutes and i had people surrender
title should be “why having fun is better than copying tournament decks” lol
There’s far more casual YuGiOh fans than competitive so good job :)
Casual duels allow for more creativity with how you build your deck so every deck feels unique which makes it more fun.
amakudari jp is pretty casual as well and him constantly get 100k views, if you want a pure casual experience you can just watch his video when he made budget vaalmonica vs blue eyes light and darkness dragon, even in between casual decks, one deck just will stomp others.
@@r3zaful at least i dont need to spend 1k for casual
duels that last for more than 3 turns with each turn lasting less than 5 minutes with actual back and forth, drawing your last pathetic card for it to be not a pathetic card to turn the duel around its so much more fun than playing pure meta 3 turns of 20 minutes each, opponent surrenders if he bricked or you counter played one thing or other way around you get counter played constantly
Listen, I'll go as high as 10 minute opening turns if the game lasts more than 3 turns
fax. slow back and forth YGO is peak YGO tbh. Thats why time wizard like GOAT and edison become more and more popular.
I disagree with "drawing out of a bricked hand into a win" that is no fun either.
The best duels have been the ones where both me and my oponent are careful with our resources and there's a bunch of mind games going on trying to figure out how to win the resource game without being too careless.
I hope you are ready for a bunch of modern players to come and insult you about how it's "no fun when the game takes more then 3 turns". every time I say almost exactly what you said here I always get delusional modern players jumping on me talking about how "boring it is" or "how much of a slog" that kind of game is. they don't understand that exact attitude is what drives away new players or returning old ones, and then they wonder why no new players are joining the game.
yugioh was fun when it was chess, but it's nothing more then an actual gun duel now.
NEW players want a game where they can think of each turn as it happens, read their card and understand what that card does based on the current field. they do not want to learn what 500 cards do by heart to just *know* instinctively what a card they drew is for
3 turn matches happens because so many new archetypes have like 2 or 3 effects for one card. Honestly, I blame the card designs for modern cards, since it obviously makes old cards obsolete, and normalizing deck building with 3 or 4 cards of an archetype with 3 or hand traps.
As a Casual player, i agree 👍playing low tier decks can be a struggle. but when you match against a deck of similar power level, the games are very fun, back and forth, and can go for 10+ turns
Wanting Team APS doing modern Yugioh content is like watching the Vattle City arc and expecting Kaiba to give a 30-minute long explanation of how he made the duel disks, complete with schematics and assembly.
It would be interesting to some people, but most are here to watch Yugi and Kaiba make up card edicts at each other.
I like the old school dueling stuff, but it will be cool to go a little further in Yugioh's history.
Like in Edison, HAT, or anything before 2013.
Yugioh is more than the first two series.
I had a duel that went on for an hour and 40 minutes on master duel it was my blue eyes vs dmg deck and in the end i made a missplay which he ended up beating me on. That's the type of Yu-Gi-Oh i love
@@JorgeF69 hell naw 😂😂
I would’ve fell asleep .
Bruh, I'm devout Blue-Eyes and I had this kind of duel against an Eldlich player. I absolutely LOVED the back-and-forth between us, and even though he managed to outlast me, everything had the right kind of tension, every move was a "Heart of the Cards" moment, and the thrill and challenge of fighting such a lengthy duel made me see him as a worthy opponent.
Also I love old school yugioh I’m a 32 your old guy who haven’t played yugioh since a kid. Been watching yaw to see how it is now and days
exactly me (even age). I've been collecting speed dual cards since they somewhat resemble a more vanilla yugioh, although the recent packs include more advanced mechanics. I don't have anyone to play with tho lol. Would LOVE to see a rerelease of the original starter decks. There's a product called yugi ex starter box, it's awesome but the cards are all in japanase. If only they released something like that in the US..
Current modern yugioh is not for everyone. I would always advise returnees to play towards GOAT or Edison formats coming back.
@@pablolopes5736I have my old old old old highschool deck, I would totally duel you
@@pablolopes5736 That's me too (even age!). No idea what the modern game is about, but love collecting the old stuff and watching these videos. Also nobody to play with 😂
@@ValBLdn one day we shall find a friend to play with haha.
I think it’s therapeutic to go from this modern craziness to the more tame earlier decks for y’all 😂
Love the old-school videos. It helped me get back into the current game, at least at a casual level. Allowed me to seek out and find a deck that is somewhat competitive but still casual and not full meta in a Budget Branded Despia deck that fits how I like to play.
What I've noticed about casual play is that once you get a few years behind the meta, the range of decks that have reasonable matchups against each other expands massively. I can whip out a Fortune Lady deck and have a decent chance of winning just by recurring the synchro a bunch. I think because these decks involve larger packages and fewer starters, you get more variation between duels, and fewer situations where someone opens their perfect combo. Which is a bit luck-sack, but if we didn't like having a bit of luck influence, we'd have houseruled "choose your starting hand" decades ago.
The challenge to enjoying casual play is that no one is supporting what I consider Good Yugioh. Goat is popular but doesn't feel like Yugioh. Edison is somewhat popular but predates the archetype boom. Date-of-release-based restrictions on which cards are legal just isn't the right approach to creating an optimal format.
I agree, making formats limiting cards usable by when they were released can be fun, but it is imperfect. Limiting things to the synchro era or earlier leaves out a bunch of problematic modern cards, but it also ends up leaving out newer decks that don't see any play, Like Aquaactresses or Chemicritters.
An idea I've had for a while is a lot more complicated, but would likely make for a healthier environment. Making tiered formats like Smogon does for Pokemon, where lower-tier stuff can be used in higher tiers, but not the other way around. So your Tearlaments and Snake-Eyes would be Uber, while your Vehicroids and Venoms would be NU.
Obviously, there would also have to be tiers for individual cards as well, which is where the complicated nature comes into play, not to mention that not all parts of an archetype are created equal. E Heroes might get UU, but Flame Wingman/Rampart Blaster/Steam Healer are not the same as Sunrise/Neos Wingman/Absolute Zero.
@@Hiushisan Sir, we have this tiers format. It’s called Kuchen format.
Hindsight format is a cool concept but I feel we gotta move on from the "Synchros and XYZs aren't old school" mindset, it's all about selection, Tin Archduke would fit in a 2004 deck fine
@@whyishoudini There's so many of each extra deck type that would fit perfectly in ancient decks. Vortex the Whirlwind, Mechquipped Angineer, Ghost Beef/Mild Turkey, Agave Dragon doesn't seem too OP for a late GX format.
The combo gameplay that you like will always be widely unappealing
Steam charts for master duel is proof
I agree with most of it. My friend and I play DM vs Blue Eyes with 'new cards' but they must mention DM or Blue eyes. So no handtraps or crazy engines or extra deck shenanigans. And we regularly play this rather than our 'best' decks with all the meta cards. Because it's more fun, it's more balanced. We don't know whose gonna win based on who went first. And the duels are always more exciting than active bonfire, resp? Ash blossom.
I quit modern almost two years ago, but I LOVED casual modern. Playing edison now, and I would like to do casual modern but it's hard to get power balance down and I'm not spending money on cards that are still decently expensive only to use them casually.
Yeah I wanted to play casual modern but even on master duel casual mode people are playing top tier decks...
The only fun I've had is with my nephew playing with 3x structure decks
5:12 that’s me, this the first video I’ve watched of yours, glad I stumbled onto it cause it’s what I’m looking for as a new casual player
honestly, Team APS videos got me back into the game. it really helped bridged the gap for me into Master Duel. Slowly I've been adding more knowledge, but its nice to watch videos that aren't 10 minutes of combos.
I deliberately play bad casual decks that are worse than rogue. The decks I typically play include Gate Guardian, pure Flame Swordsman, Pure Shining Sarcophagus, Gren Maju/Golden Castle of Stromberg, the new Exodia support, and Darklords. When I play on duelingbook and ask my opponents to bring weak decks of roughly the same strength I regularly have people telling me how much they enjoyed playing against my deck compared to other decks running around. In my Darklord deck, for example, I run 10,000 Dragon as well as Legendary Maju Garzett for solely the meme value because I'm there to have fun and make lolzy plays instead of being a 20-minute combo break-my-board sweatlord. And at best my decks might get one negate monster on the field. Moreover all of these decks have turns that are reasonable in length. If you're casual like me you have to make your own fun in Yugioh and it's a shame that Konami wont do more to accomodate those who don't like the current formats.
My brother been playing the shining sarc deck is so fun to duel against
Do you have a decklist for your flame swordsman deck? I’m just getting back into yugioh and the sound of super bad casual decks with friends sounds like a blast, but I suck at making decks and don’t even know where to start.
Your the most fun duelist i came across in the comments,, finally someone that actually has variety good job man, now this is proper duelist here
Hi Pau! Figured I’d chime in because honestly I’m having more fun than ever in yugioh rn. My shop doesn’t have tournaments it’s simply casual play. People bring decks of many different levels. But you can almost always find someone who’s best suited to face a deck of your power. While there’s still something’s I could complain about, these concerns rarely come up during the casual games. Best part is if I get tired of modern I just hop back into goat or Edison! I still can cook weird decks for those formats. They don’t seem to get stale. This game for me is about getting a bit stoned and having some fun! Love your content. You are a pillar of this community. Thank you so much for your work.
I could not have said that better myself
Because we can reach 5-7 turns without getting negated to oblivion in your second turn.
Also, shorter and easy to follow turns.
I respect your honesty in coming out and saying that keeping your view count up is one of your priorities. Of course it's true for almost any TH-camr, but few are quick to admit that there are real "business" considerations regarding their content.
I'm one of those who really appreciate the themed, flavorful dues you guys play. For me, the fun of tabletop gaming is in the byplay between the players as the game state gradually develops and they try to outmaneuver each other. I've tried watching more modern competitive-style duels, but it so often comes down to the players just shuffling their cards between their decks, hands, and GYs until there's 8000+ damage available and a player declares victory. I imagine that if I were one of the players, I'd take a book with me to keep busy while waiting for a turn to end. When Duel Links introduced Trickstars, I once set my phone down while the AI started its turn, made a decent sandwich, and came back to find the turn hadn't finished yet (the game log recorded 15 summons in that turn). I quit soon after.
I do understand how that style of game can be fun, especially for players who treat the intricate card interactions as puzzles to solve, but I prefer to do puzzles on my own rather than with an opponent or as a spectator.
This is exactly why I like the channel. Im out of the game for about 15 years, I still collect very casually and I love to see decks in action that I can actually understand without knowing what the current meta is.
The key takeaway here is relaxing.
Old school formats tend to be much more relaxing to play since you're not going to auto lose if you cant make or break a board on the first turn.
The slower formats also tend to allow for more whacky techs to be messed with in decks (for example I play The fiend megacyber, basically cyber dragon before cyber dragon, in my chaos warrior deck for goat format and it puts in work).
I’m sure it depends on the deck
For example hand rip stun probably isn’t going to be particularly fun for the opponent
Recently a random channel decided to upload the entire Yugi vs Kaiba battle city final in Japanese. I showed it to some friends who either only play modern yugioh because they play with me or because their introduction was modern yugioh. The result from showing them the duel was unanimously "I wish playing yugioh could have back and forth like that" or "I miss old school yugioh". Obviously meta yugioh was always a thing, even back in 2004, but that sentiment plays a big role on whether or not people want to play yugioh in general.
Having content in that vain I think is very important, its because of your videos I even thought to buy structure decks to play with friends in person in a sort of round robin because the games last longer and just feel better.
A great back and forth moden duel is Traptrix vs Sky Striker. I play Traptrix on Master Duel and the times I have faced Sky Striker are always great back and forth duels with a ton of interactions.
I just love yugioh, old and new. I have plenty of other channels to watch for modern stuff. It would be cool to see a modern duel once in a while though, but if not the casual stuff is perfectly fine
I partially agree. There are epic comebacks and plays in modern decks, every time I go at locals I have at least one unexpected match that has the most fun interactions and turn of events. I see where you coming from and yes, it is true that those exciting plays are cool to watch on classic decks, but that doesn't mean that never happens in modern. And not saying you're making excuses up, but I always explain my effects and talk while playing and have no problems with it, contrary to the popular belief of having to be 100% focused looking at your cards and just saying "special, response?".
I think the reason why casual is more interesting is because the decks actually have weaknesses not to say that meta doesn't have weaknesses they absolutely do. They have significantly less and as a result when they pull off their big scary end board you need very specific cards and hope it is enough. I like that you brought up brain control what makes it a strong card is you are taking a monster you opponent went through a lot of effort to summon and using it against them which now begs the question does your opponent let you destroy them with said monster or do they destroy their stolen monster to protect them? Heck what if you just use it to summon one of your own monsters? A lot of things can happen from a card like brain control however there is just as many things that can go wrong. Meta might not prepare for this exact scenario but they might have something equivalent. So casual decks have to deal with potential holes in their strategy and could be interrupted however maybe the opponent only has 1 and you can quickly recover from it without a easy way of getting to another interruption. Basically with casual decks their is smaller likelihood of your opponent always having the out. Not to say they cannot draw it however they might draw it too late or even too early for it to be useful.
While I do enjoy the older content and wouldn't want you to stop, I think once a year it would be really fun to see a Team APS Tournament where you play each other with your real decks. Playing those real tournament decks a little more often also let's us connect to you through modern play. Not saying you have to go full meta snake eyes, but at least some high level Rogue decks every once in awhile.
So true
This
They already did with two new structure decks. Combo wombo, it was boring as hell.
@@wanderer316 not talking structure decks talking about the decks they built themselves
@@phantomknightgalactus same shit
I think it's fun to watch a back and forth between 2 players with a great board setup over time with counterplay. However, I understand the power scaling is high octane, but it's like a flash fire; it burns hot, but for such a short time that it never lasts. For example, imagine a UFC fight where only 1 fighter is throwing punches and kicks for the entire round while the other fighter just sits there and takes there, then for round 2 the other fighter tries to throw a punch, just for 1st fighter to start throwing more punches and kicks while the other fighter is forced to sit there again. Does that sound like fun?
It's hard to compare a turn based card game to something like two people punching each other in the face.
The reaon I started playing Yu-Gi-Oh again is because of the skits you guys do. I love seeing you guys go at it with retro and classic decks you'd see in the GOAT era and even Edison sometimes.
You guys are just the best and one of the only channels I've seen in modern days that still plays Yu-Gi-Oh how we remember from way back when. Nothing but wishes of luck and success in this Yugituber Journey ❤❤❤
Interactivity is key to me.
In OG you don't always want to play a card because maybe you can bait out an MSQ or Dark Hole, which are crucial. You can't bait hand traps, as everything you do is key, so the hand trap is always max value.
I like both causal and competitive. I prefer casual, but I don't really have anyone to play with outside of the locals scene. Of course, that means I mostly play competitively, albeit at a much lower level. I don't like the "set weak normal monster, pass" old school Yu-Gi-Oh! However, I still have more fun playing either older cards or lower-powered cards. I just wish I would have more opportunities to do so.
Because casual Yugioh allows for more interaction and back-and-forth, comeback are much more feasable and decks and strats are much more varied, which makes the game not feel stale
I enjoy rogue decks the most.
I play galaxy Photon, RDA, mekk Knights, magical musketeers, true Draco, infernoids, VS, sky strikers, cyber dragons etc
Most of these decks got direct or indirect support the last couple of years.
Be it stuff like morganite for true draco or thrust for cyber dragons or direct support Like Galaxy, RDA or strikers.
I love the content you guys make! This is the only channel I can get the nostalgic feeling from my childhood. I wouldn’t mind seeing you mess around with your Voiceless Voice deck tho. I also play it and would enjoy seeing your perspective while dueling with it and what engines you think mesh well with the deck. It is a pretty simple deck tho so idk how in depth of a video you could make off it.
As someone who stopped playing Yugioh back in 2010 and played a bit of Master Duel Solo content when that came out, god damn is the mental load of everything that is happening insanely high now. If you don't know how any given archetype functions it is not an easy task to grasp what is going on. Hell, I remember back in high school showing a friend my Gladiator Beast deck and he was floored at what that could do compared to the Yugioh he knew and I imagine GBs are insanely tame by modern standards. Also, as someone who's gotten more interested in Yugioh again recently it was specifically your video on Lightsworn that did it since that was an archetype that seemed so cool to me back when I was still playing and I wanted to see what the video was about and honestly it seemed sweet. It also helped a ton since I know that archetype.
some people can't see yugioh beyond the show or the competitive scene, not enough people see yugioh as a fun to play game and actually invent fun ways to play.
The difference between casual duels and competitive duels is:
Competitive decks: 1% of cards that exist.
Casual decks: 99% of cards that exist.
Casual decks have the freedom to choose what cards they want to use, making separate duels actually different from each other. A lot of competitive decks go for the same (or very similar) combos every single duel, and it gets stale. People who only play modern meta might not even realize just how many cards exist, they're too busy calling said cards "Bad" for not being in the top 1% of power level.
Not *quite* what the video is about but
Constructed junk has been the most fun to take to locals. I've been showing my community how pre-fiendsmith Vaalmonica works.
"It's not good, but it's better than you think."
Your videos got me back into "real" yugioh after playing master duel for a while. Watching your videos made me realise playing the tcg is a lot more fun. So I'm not really playing the kind of "casual" duels but I'm definitely glad to be playing in person instead of online.
And that’s exactly why even after 10+ years i stopped playing ygo i still watch and enjoy all your videos
I'm more on the casual side myself as well, and what I have noticed is that people love playing decks that are just below competitive with some jank cards added to it. Especially in a draft setting. I'm on Hardleg's server and there are a bunch of people there who host deck build challenge tournaments that are very casual orriented. The most attended tournaments have been the 2 draft tournaments, where we use YGOPRO's pack simulator to make our own packs to have the players draft from. While it takes a lot of time and effort to set up such a tournament (pack creation and testing), and getting the balance right between all of the packs, it has been an incredible fun way to play this game. Would definitly recommend
The one thing i always wanted you guys to try, was playing with 2013-2016 era decks like BA, shadolls, satellars, qlis etc. The duels are fast enough to not look "boring", but nowhere near as fast as modern duels that people have trouble following.
Love your point that less people would want to watch Old Meta like "Spyral VS Zoodiac"? But more people would still love to see "Gate Guardian VS HERO" contents
Low key a fun idea can be battles of massive archetypes and see how they differ (also no outside hand traps or engines). Like performapal has sooo many cards so have 3 of everything but each player drafts the cards from entire pool to see how they differ. Can even do chaos since there’s endless chaos cards too like chaos dragon thunder or warrior in particular.
I really enjoyed the Light vs Dark theme duel y'all did a few weeks back and think using all the new support is a nice change of pace from more anime and old school duels. Stuff like Duel Terminal or World Legacy lore duels might appeal well to casual fans.
My favorite play from you guys that was so hype was during your rare hunter where Alec wagered his lava golem and on the turn he played lava golem to attempt to burn you for game and I thought Paul was done, Paul used two-pronged attack to kill lava golem and then swing for game. That was more hype to me than any modern duel play.
Create time queues as a pop-up that says "pause an google" or "pause and read" this card if you dont understand, to create less verbal interaction an save time
U on point! Casual duels are just better! More friendly!
I’d say modern decks are still fun if you take out engines and hand traps that aren’t associated with that archetype. You should try duel videos like that. Since I feel there’s tons of cards for certain decks that never see any play. Would be cool to see the intended way the deck was designed.
keep up the casual videos. also more archetypes for me to try out that are super unique. superheavys, traptrix, magical musketeers, and now i am thinking of weatherpainters annnd plumber patrols.
Love the regular APS content. I think it would be great when there's a ban list or when the format shifts, you guys could do deck profiles for what you were playing.
Great vid. As some one who use to play and only watches the game on Twitch/ TH-cam, I agree with a lot of the points you made.
Lots of good points made! I just got back into yugioh and your channel is one of the few ones I watch bc of the classic stuff :)
I've been getting into Edison and the pacing is WAY more fun than modern Yugioh
I find it the perfect middle ground. Not as boring as classic yugioh, and not as overwhelming as modern yugioh. It’s perfect in my opinion!
I like anime decks and on that note I'd like to make a suggestion, could you do more matchups from the Gx-Arc-V eras? Because the youngest of that series is 10 years old now, they are at the point where any one of them are nostalgic for various groups of people so that checkmark gets ticked and adds some more variety
Yeah i just got into master duel. I hadn't played Yu-Gi-Oh since gx era and back then i had a neo dalius deck so it's been a wild ride for me, started with a blue eyes deck and now Im rocking a modern cyberdragon deck. I've learned the modern game now and I'm in platinum 2 but i can't stop facing snake eyes players and they makes the game so boring for me 🥲😔 i understand how snake eyes and kashtira decks work but honestly i find it boring so i don't know what to play next
Paul did you play the recent edison format mode on Master Duel? Most fun ive had in a long time
I just wish they extended it to the weekend, I barely had time to play it and didn't even make my own deck
I really like your channel, so i watch every single video of you guys because it feels like chilling with the homies.
I would like to suggest videos that you could possibly do that others might find interesting. Id love to see your Horus deck broken down in a video. Im in love with the Horus and Imsety cards!
I like to make use of my surplus/common cards (for financial reason-lets face it, we have a ton of unused cards), as i pick random cards and play them with my friend; while attempting to create a unique deck, or have some type of challenge. Like, build a strategy around or involves Dreamsprite.
My friend and i, used to be competitive, and he didn’t have patience for technical rules. I played Reckless Greed when he played Giant Trunade. He thought that I couldn’t do that, but a normal trap is spell speed 2, and either he forgot that, or couldn’t contextualize that play. Anyway, that was our last duel. So, years later, i told him, we’re playing yugioh, but with basic cards, nothing too complicated or combo-heavy.
I get it, though, filming makes for different a 3rd person watching a non-meta deck duel. If i were to film a particular deck that needs some explanations, i would have to put up a graphic of card text, highlight it ala Master Duel when an effect is currently being checked (ala chess, when you call for Check). That quality of life, in Master Duel is so good, in previous games, i had to parse which part of the card’s text is making the game prompting me for confirming an action.
We are all about casual duels in my house (I have 5 kids lol) and we have abunch of structure decks. Dark World, Albaz, Traptrix, Blue Eyes, Obelisk, Slifer, Fire Kings, Crimson King, Crystal Beasts etc and thats all we use. It keeps the games unpredictable and keeps them evenly matched.
I like seeing older decks because Yugioh has tons of really interesting mechanics that are forgotten due to power creep in the meta.
I really wanna see underappreciated Pure Decks. I don't mean ""Rogue"" Decks that are just Meta Decks from 5+ years ago but actual off the map Decks. Pure Skull Servant, Suship, Gimmick Puppet, random Decks that didn't really do anything but are cool thematically.
I play pure Suships in Master Duel. While I don't often win, I usually do have a lot of fun building my funny Sushi boats.
Totally agree. I've tried to get my buddy into modern yugioh for like 5 years but it's really difficult to convince someone to learn a 20+ step combo and also line variations for when you get hit with interruption. On the other hand I can throw up an APS video and he can follow right along as opposed to if I put up a Jesse Kotton or Josh Schmidt video
My friend and I play super casual decks, almost like anime. We pick an archetype, and try to use only 1 of each of the cards from the archetype (unless 3 is absolutely required), even if some of the cards are garbage. The duels are usually so fun and engaging, with amazing back and forth, and comebacks. We did a Bakura vs Mako battle and my friend managed to get Destiny Board finished the turn before i would have won. The laughs and fun we have is priceless.
Narrative Yu-gi-oh is the main way I want to play, as a turbo-casual yugi-boomer. I still like playing powerful cards and combinations but I like when there is some effort and luck needed to pull it off. I can clearly see the appeal of super efficient deck searching, hand traps, and special summoning engines especially with big prizes on the line, but I just play Yu-gi-oh at home and to kill time at the LGS. I keep a handful of decks at similar power levels (GX / 5Ds kind of stuff) that generally play well with each other and am open to offering a game with them to anyone interested.
Back-and-forth duels are the best. There's satisfaction in completely shutting your opponent down, but both can enjoy themselves when it feels like every card could sway the outcome.
I completely agreed that casual oldschool videos are more fun to watch. I will only say that it doesn't have to be caveman yugioh with the vanilla monsters. I quite like the point in time where vanilla monsters weren't really a thing anymore and basically all the monsters being used were effect monsters. Simple cards like Maximum Six, Vampire Lady, Legendary Fiend, Gear Golem the Moving Fortress or cards like Earthquake or Shift or Interdimensional Matter Transporter.
To me the best period in time is after GOAT, but before Edison. That's where I had the most fun
Yall should build the popular meta decks from each year (2004-2019 (pre 2020s)) and duel against each other
Casual player here. Obviously we need some tables for casual players to just chill and have fun with rogue or non-meta decks.
I think it would be fun to see your personal constructed modern Yugioh decks in action.
I commented after a mere moment or two into this, now, after listening to the full video. I think you could make videos explaining and showing a meta deck while everyone else tries playing older decks into it, partly as a joke, but also to showcase and teach a new deck to everyone while they all express the all too common woes of being completely out matched deck to deck. Like a heraldry deck playing against a kashteria deck.
Yeah, it's understandable. Casual Yugioh is easier to consume.
Here and there viewer, been consuming alot more of your content over the last 2 weeks. Not invested as much in the game itself anymore but everyone’s knowledge and enjoyment playing together is what keeps my attention.
Lately, it seems like alot of the negativity has been getting to you. I don’t think you have to explain yourself, just have fun. The nit-picky comments will always exist when it comes to any gaming content.
Some ideas for structured games if not already done:
Vanillas only
X Attack limit
Only fusion monsters can attack LP directly
Spin a wheel of archetypes
Fan submitted decks
Older Yugioh was just infinitely better. Loved Edison/Tengu/2009. And I still enjoy those formats
Id like to see you and rhymestyle get together for a video and discuss this as you both seem to have similar backgrounds of playing both old and new but seemingly making more classic content. You could even do some goat duels followed by some current format duels to demonstrate the differences
I love Team APS speed duel tournament
I think casual duels are just plainly more fun. I left the game years ago because of the changing landscape. The games got way too fast and as others have expressed it's not fun to sit there for 15 minutes while you either get FTK'd or OTK'd by your opponent before you had a chance to do anything. Casual duels allowed for more lengthy games where each person takes their turn and sets up their board. There was the thrill of both players being low on LP and then clutch wins would occur. I've recently been coming back but just in the casual sense. No tournaments just a casual get together with others in the community.
I dont hate modern yugioh, i hate competitive yugioh cause everything just devolves into making the most degenerate way to lock the other player out of playing the game
I agree with this. There simply isn't a lot of narrative enjoyment from watching someone execute a 5 minute long combo while the other person sits there doing nothing.
meta duels might be temporary but thats a really good reason to cover it at least once. Like watch us play snake-eye before its dethroned. Its cool to go back in time to see when these decks were relevant years from now. and you guys doing it is much cooler than those super competitive channels out there. just my opinion
I’d be down to see y’all play 2004 Chaos Control format, 2005 Goat Format, and 2007 Perfect Circle format.
i love old school yugioh, keep it up.
Stuff like the ebay decks and mystery boxes are usually my favourites, because that's my favourite way too play too. Come up with something on the spot and try to make it work
Is there anyway you guys would be willing to have a house or Masterduel tourney with viewer made budget decks?
The title is right. I've been playing Goat format and Edison... Our play groups doubled in size! Best formats.
Agreed tbh. My experience with modern Yu-Gi-Oh which i think others might be also doing. Is I've got 2 mobile games on my phone. One of them is Arknights.
Whenever my opponent starts to combo off and I dont have any handtraps. I literally start playing the roguelike mode and can sometimes setup my entire strategy in that map and lookup to see the enemy still hasnt finished their turn.
Imagine being able to play another game for long enough that your halfway through the second game and your opponent is still playing their turn. Its nuts and not fun at all
Big up team APS.Super Underated channel
I definitely want to see more Edison and Goat on the channel, or just the 5D's era in general because I feel like it's that prime yugioh of synchros and interesting interactions without having to read 3 paragraphs on every card
Yeah. 5D's Era was definitely Yugiohs prime. It was starting to get into comboing, but it wasn't anywhere near where we are at today, where you either have a full board of all of your boss monsters by turn 1 or you are guaranteed to lose in turn 2. It allowed a few sick combos, but no combo was so opressive that Yugioh turned into a single player game. There was still back and forth. 5D's was easily the prime of Yugioh.
Honestly, as a person who has been following the game for a while now but is coming from Magic the Gathering, I appreciate the slower games a Structure Deck can provide.
I really enjoyed the recent light vs dark-modern-not meta duel as much as the rare hunters, themed duels in general are great. Do you take suggestions? If so, how about some duels where you randomly get a) an attribute b) a type and c) a time period and you can only build a deck around those limitations to show off your deck building skills and knowledge. Kinda like creating a character for the anime. I bet sealed product duels are sometimes expensive and the cards are never to be used again 😂
I like the casual duels
Casual duel videos you guys make also include monsters that more people know exist. For me, there's a lot less interest when it comes to decks that I have 0 clue what they are.
Though there's only so much OG DM vs Blue Eyes duals one can show and consume, but that's where creativity and yalls personality comes in. Like I'd love like an updated version of those kinds of decks to be shown in a video, that's of course designed around the main theme of those decks.
I dont really play yugioh anymore. I was deep into the competitive scene in 2017, but once links became super toxic as well as the rise of handtraps (and financial situations), I have taken a step back. I much prefer classic duels for YT content, they last more than one turn and are simple and easy to follow.
I get what you mean. Im a dueling grandpa (36) and though i dont play meta optimally i still build and accordingly. If i had a suggestion it would be this to mesh the preferences of your audience every once in a while Try having a tourney where you are allowed up to 3 forbidden cards in your deck however the catch is each player has to pick a different forbidden card from the others. It would be fun to see the forbidden cards getting some screen time and it would interest all of us just to see what kind of jank you all would come up with o.o food for thought
Completely unrelated to this video but I would love to know your thoughts about something. If the core rules were to change and every tribute summon were to be treated as a special summon, would anything change?
I cannot recall a single game of yugioh I’ve ever played or witnessed where there weren’t any misplays.
Though I don’t typically watch tournament play.
I imagine, in addition to the things you mentioned, there's a novelty to seeing these older or lower power-level decks to people who play modern Yugioh.