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This year was the first and last time I will stand in line for RSD. Some stood in line for nothing because what they wanted was "sold out" or the store got no copies of a particular record.
I actually like it more than ever. The first year I went was 2017, and I went with some friends without even looking at the list. I've gone every year since then, and I look forward to the list drop, and have found that I always find 3 or 4 albums or artists that I would've otherwise never even heard of, that I love, or am glad I discovered, even if I don't end up getting them. The longer it goes on, the more the same artists are going to be scraping the bottom of the barrel for unreleased live stuff or variants, but it makes total sense, and doesn't really upset me. I'm able to find 6 or 7 albums each year that I get really excited about, and love spending the day with friends going to different stores looking for them
Agree ! ppl complaining about this rsd when it’s one of the best ones yet are so lame. You’d think they would understand that the pandemic did affect rsd and change the model a bit but it’s just evolving not getting worse. So many indie shops are promoting it and ppl seem excited. It’s a net positive for everyone. The releases this year are also fantastic!
I've largely cooled on record collecting these days because of how expensive records have gotten. And truthfully, I absolutely blame RSD and how the companies saw how much money people were willing to spend on variants for that. More than anything the past few RSD's I've gone, maybe gotten something that was released but also would buy a different album I wanted that wasn't an RSD release. I haven't been collecting for long (a little over a decade) but RSD has already changed so much since I first started...even the lack of community, the best part for me was chilling in line and talking to other people. No one's really down for that anymore but that could be related to the pandemic.
I don't participate in Record Store Day because the records are just too expensive. Long lines for an album that cost $75?!?!? I would rather wait for the album to end up in the used section for less. I prefer record shows because your dollar goes much further there.
I always bought those side by side 45s they put out, and evey year the vinyl is ruined from the plastic they put them in. Every single one, except for the mystery 45s. Im out all that money.
I can tell you my RSD experience in Melbourne Australia it used to be a big day with multiple stores having bands and events, but over the last few years some of those stores don’t do RSD anymore, I used to love driving from one store to another to be part of the days festivities, but now it’s almost wait and buy it online, the prices have killed RSD
Yeah, it definitely used to be an all day event at my local stores. I’d drive around to different stores just to see what they had going on, even if I had already found all the titles I was looking for.
Between the prices, the quality of the vinyl and packaging, and the flippers I think RSD has a negative feel. The list could honestly be a lot better too.
Was never a fan of record store day here in the uk ! Especially when give two months later, they’re all on Amazon for half the price of what the record shops were asking! So to me, it was a bit pointless and it keeps happening you after year after year so I just don’t bother anymore
Yeah! Them appearing on amazon for half the price is the final insult! Especially when these releases shouldn’t have touched amazon or HMV in the first place, as only the indie shops alone should have them full stop! This happened with Pink Floyd releasing a specially packaged version of “A Saucer Full Of Secrets” about five years back on RSD day, it only appeared in HMV about two weeks after the event didn’t it?! Scum!!!!
Our record store takes a list of people the day the list comes out so they don’t have a big line first sign up the earlier you get in. Also they ask you what records you want so they can order them.
I thought the whole point of RSD day was that nothing’s held back for you, and you have to compete with everyone on the day to try and get what you want??
Just talked to my local owner about this today. He said that record store day is cool, but the titles aren't' as good this year. I said it's not how much you buy on record story day, but the other 364 days of the year. Many patrons only come on those days to get the "hottest new toy". Perfect way to put it. Otherwise, they buy from Amazon and Walmart. Is his store a couple of bucks more? But to me it's worth it to have a great store that is fun to visit and the owner cares about his customers.
Record Store Day is nothing more than pure corporate greed! The Major labels Warners/Universal/Sony and well heeled indies with a lot of money and clout behind them have hijacked it, and are just peddling over priced badly made warped pressed off centre crap, that they think stupid mug record collectors with more money than sense will pay anything for, no matter how highly it’s priced (£55 quid for a double album re perceptualised as a “boxed set” as an excuse to rob you is not acceptable!!) before you think I’m being abusive towards record collectors I AM ONE!! We need to take a stand somehow against this because somethings got to give, and people all over the place (especially in Britain!) haven’t got the disposable cash to keep up with this shit anymore! So lower the prices down record labels! It’s not fair on the poorer collectors!!!!
I avoid record store day at all cost. The parasites who buy 3 records of the same band with the same album title just to mark it up 3 times the amount is just atrocious. Also, unfair to the other customers in line they can’t have a chance to buy the record because record stores can’t put a quantity limit of purchase on the albums. The final straw for me was when this one record store in the Chicagoland area would attentional hide rsd releases from the public and sell them later to either his friends or sell them higher to a mark who he knows would pay for it to have that record. F Rsd!
Yeah, that really sucks. I’ve heard similar stories from other people over the years about record stores intentionally hiding copies to sell later at inflated prices.
I still have my humble collection of metal records from the 80s. I got back into buying records around 2009; mostly at live shows as a way to support indie artists. My first RSD title was the John Mayer - The Complete 2012 Performances Collection and I literally paid just under $15 CAD for it. In fact, for years a lot of what I picked up through Amazon were $15-20 CAD. For me, I had the most fun going to RSD from 2013-2015. After that, I stopped lining up and would head down an hour or two after opening. Though I was not among the smaller population of record collectors who never stopped buying records through the 90s, I did get in at the tail end where prices were reasonable and I also built some of my collection from thrift finds; which have dried up (at least where I am) as well. Now, 10 years and a pandemic later, the vinyl resurgence has sent prices skyrocketing and quality can be spotty. After amassing 1000+ records, I've started to sell off / trade-in some of records that I never play to help finance recent buys + quality / my shorted-list titles over quantity. Count me as one person who finds this the best RSD list since possibly before the pandemic, but I will still be reading Hoffman Forums to get a beat on which pressings are likely to yield a good listening experience versus getting stuck with a dud pressing. Lastly, it's gotten to the point (safe for a few exceptional titles) where one can find and order what they want from an online indie record store seller; thereby still supporting them without the hours in line. Yes, I've had some good conversations waiting in line but ultimately, I'm kind of done with that part of it.
I have a record store near me that gets a lot of the neighboring vendors involved as well as local bands and food trucks. The line keeps getting longer and longer regardless of releases. Personally, I think there are some manufacturers doing a great job with the jazz releases. I would like to see the list in general shrink in quantity. That's where its gotten overblown to me. Pricing? Meh. If its worth it to me, I buy. If not, I dont. Vinyl pricing in general is ridiculous. Its not just RSD.
Because RSD releases generally cost more and stores aren't really able to stray too far from MSRP, so they end up having thinner margins on a lot of the releases.
It was cool when records were not popular and more of a niche thing and this event really boosted a lot of struggling record stores and potentially gained them new customers. Now it's so commercial and its just full of bargain bin releases that no one really wants. I think it's become a joke personally
I used to go but haven't gone the past couple years and its indeed lost its fun factor ... even a so called "good list" this year is not all that it was hyped to be
I was never a RSD kind of person. I’m more of a thrifter. Although that has been harder to do. That being said, RSD has gotten just too expensive. I’m too cheap to do it. I’m too old to get up at 4 am and stand in line until 9 am. Although being a Ronstadt fan boy there is a new box set coming out. I will probably wait to see if it comes down in price. Hey That’s just me.
As a record store owner, I can see what you're saying about making RSD more event friendly again, but all of that affects the bottom line, and the margins have been getting slimmer every year with many down to a 20% markup if you're lucky. Finding the funds to finance other things is difficult. Another observation is that every store likes to do things their own way, so as a consumer, you can pick which one you prefer based on that. Some people actually like to see the records, so we do a line with all titles alphabetical in order to give people that chance, as 90% of the records look better or more interesting in person than they did on the RSD website. That way it's still organized and not a free for all. But other stores may want it differently. You bring up some good points about product, although I can't see the date changing as so many people go away for summer vacations and are spending money on experiences, not records, and where it falls now is near tax refund time...
I agree with you on a lot of your comments! To me RSD has turned into a fight to get that RSd only release that only has 3000 copies released People camping out in line to get that release that probably will be released down the road to everyone People fighting with each other!! No thanks
🤟 It didn’t lose its magic, it just evolved like all things music do. The social media today it’s a different world. Still great passionate ppl and young ppl carrying on interest in vinyl. Indie shops being supported and looking forward to the day, rsd still beautiful experience. This is my 10th year and this one looks to be fantastic. A Beatles record player, rare Queen 7inch, various super rare jazz and punk collections and anniversary releases sry this years haters will miss this.
It's all about the exclusive records for the collectors and I'm part of the problem ... Also my shops don't receive the records on time or the price is much higher than the price on the webshops. I would scrap the "store" in RSD and just keep it Records Day
Sometimes I really think it depends on the store. I live in a small rural community and only have one shop in general within 45 minutes of me. The owner is very inconsistent with what he does, how he handles a line, Ect which makes it frustrating and makes me want to participate less.
In situations like that I think it would be helpful if RSD required a standardized format for how RSD works. I’ve been to some stores where it’s pretty much just chaos when the doors open, and others where it’s a smooth process.
@@TheVinylDen yes for example last year he stated on his social channels that he would open the doors so people could wait inside at 8 am but not buy until 9. I made the trip and got there at 630 and there was no line so I just took a walk around town but kept an eye on the store. At around 7:15 I walked back by and noticed the lights on and people in the store. He decided to start letting people in before 7 and by the time I got there it was given the #14 to buy and had missed out on a lot of what I was looking for. Just a frustrating situation. I agree that there should probably be more of a standardized process.
I think the number of titles on RSD needs to be pared down considerably. It seems like there's too many live albums being released. I also feel there is this feeling of "Hey! Just try to find anything on this band or artist and just put it out!" Just for the sake of a 'new toy' so to speak. I think the number of titles needs to be about 50-100 or so. I also think there doesn't need to be a Black Friday RSD either. I really appreciate the video and your opinion, Nick! Keep on spinnin'
.......That said i’ll probably pop into my local one on record store day to see the carnage that’s been left behind! Unless everyone has abandoned it now because they’re skint! (Got no money to the American viewers!)
It really only blew up once the swifties got involved. The list this year is extremely meh. I mean would it kill the doors and U2 to miss a RSD or 2? Their releases have been total crap.
The magic is gone because the majority of releases are the same every year. Cure picture discs, live albums that no one wants, Hillbillies from Hell volume 82 and albums that rank low in artists discographies. If there's ONE album I have my eyes on, the magic is there. But every year they scrape the bottom of the barrel for some weird reason.
They definitely need to get back to pressing the albums that people want. It would be interesting to know what percentage of RSD titles people are still listening to a couple years after they picked them up on RSD. I think there’s quite a few albums that get bought for the novelty factor and then rarely get played.
Dunno - I don't see this as an issues that shops are responsible for. Record stores don't decide what is released - that's the (stupid) record companies - safe (or, worse, pointless; hello Fleetwood Mac Rumours picture disc) releases that are horribly overpriced - this is not the fault of the record store. Having said that, I think its the responsibility of the bigger chains (e.g., HMV in UK, Sunrise in Canada, etc) to *tell* the suppliers/record companies that they are killing the market for (new) music enthusiasts with excessive prices. With LPs nearly 3x the cost of vinyl, and people having limited funds, its just a foregone conclusion that things like RSD will lose their appeal.
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This year was the first and last time I will stand in line for RSD. Some stood in line for nothing because what they wanted was "sold out" or the store got no copies of a particular record.
I used to go every year but its gotten so boring and expensive.i see it as companies taking advantage of the consumer.its just not worth it anymore.
I actually like it more than ever. The first year I went was 2017, and I went with some friends without even looking at the list. I've gone every year since then, and I look forward to the list drop, and have found that I always find 3 or 4 albums or artists that I would've otherwise never even heard of, that I love, or am glad I discovered, even if I don't end up getting them. The longer it goes on, the more the same artists are going to be scraping the bottom of the barrel for unreleased live stuff or variants, but it makes total sense, and doesn't really upset me. I'm able to find 6 or 7 albums each year that I get really excited about, and love spending the day with friends going to different stores looking for them
I started in 2018 and really like the records I've purchased.
Agree ! ppl complaining about this rsd when it’s one of the best ones yet are so lame. You’d think they would understand that the pandemic did affect rsd and change the model a bit but it’s just evolving not getting worse. So many indie shops are promoting it and ppl seem excited. It’s a net positive for everyone. The releases this year are also fantastic!
I've largely cooled on record collecting these days because of how expensive records have gotten. And truthfully, I absolutely blame RSD and how the companies saw how much money people were willing to spend on variants for that. More than anything the past few RSD's I've gone, maybe gotten something that was released but also would buy a different album I wanted that wasn't an RSD release. I haven't been collecting for long (a little over a decade) but RSD has already changed so much since I first started...even the lack of community, the best part for me was chilling in line and talking to other people. No one's really down for that anymore but that could be related to the pandemic.
I don't participate in Record Store Day because the records are just too expensive. Long lines for an album that cost $75?!?!? I would rather wait for the album to end up in the used section for less. I prefer record shows because your dollar goes much further there.
I always bought those side by side 45s they put out, and evey year the vinyl is ruined from the plastic they put them in. Every single one, except for the mystery 45s. Im out all that money.
I can tell you my RSD experience in Melbourne Australia it used to be a big day with multiple stores having bands and events, but over the last few years some of those stores don’t do RSD anymore, I used to love driving from one store to another to be part of the days festivities, but now it’s almost wait and buy it online, the prices have killed RSD
Yeah, it definitely used to be an all day event at my local stores. I’d drive around to different stores just to see what they had going on, even if I had already found all the titles I was looking for.
Between the prices, the quality of the vinyl and packaging, and the flippers I think RSD has a negative feel. The list could honestly be a lot better too.
Was never a fan of record store day here in the uk ! Especially when give two months later, they’re all on Amazon for half the price of what the record shops were asking! So to me, it was a bit pointless and it keeps happening you after year after year so I just don’t bother anymore
Yeah! Them appearing on amazon for half the price is the final insult! Especially when these releases shouldn’t have touched amazon or HMV in the first place, as only the indie shops alone should have them full stop! This happened with Pink Floyd releasing a specially packaged version of “A Saucer Full Of Secrets” about five years back on RSD day, it only appeared in HMV about two weeks after the event didn’t it?! Scum!!!!
Our record store takes a list of people the day the list comes out so they don’t have a big line first sign up the earlier you get in. Also they ask you what records you want so they can order them.
I thought the whole point of RSD day was that nothing’s held back for you, and you have to compete with everyone on the day to try and get what you want??
Just talked to my local owner about this today. He said that record store day is cool, but the titles aren't' as good this year. I said it's not how much you buy on record story day, but the other 364 days of the year. Many patrons only come on those days to get the "hottest new toy". Perfect way to put it. Otherwise, they buy from Amazon and Walmart. Is his store a couple of bucks more? But to me it's worth it to have a great store that is fun to visit and the owner cares about his customers.
Record Store Day is nothing more than pure corporate greed! The Major labels Warners/Universal/Sony and well heeled indies with a lot of money and clout behind them have hijacked it, and are just peddling over priced badly made warped pressed off centre crap, that they think stupid mug record collectors with more money than sense will pay anything for, no matter how highly it’s priced (£55 quid for a double album re perceptualised as a “boxed set” as an excuse to rob you is not acceptable!!) before you think I’m being abusive towards record collectors I AM ONE!! We need to take a stand somehow against this because somethings got to give, and people all over the place (especially in Britain!) haven’t got the disposable cash to keep up with this shit anymore! So lower the prices down record labels! It’s not fair on the poorer collectors!!!!
I avoid record store day at all cost.
The parasites who buy 3 records of the same band with the same album title just to mark it up 3 times the amount is just atrocious. Also, unfair to the other customers in line they can’t have a chance to buy the record because record stores can’t put a quantity limit of purchase on the albums.
The final straw for me was when this one record store in the Chicagoland area would attentional hide rsd releases from the public and sell them later to either his friends or sell them higher to a mark who he knows would pay for it to have that record.
F Rsd!
Yeah, that really sucks. I’ve heard similar stories from other people over the years about record stores intentionally hiding copies to sell later at inflated prices.
I still have my humble collection of metal records from the 80s. I got back into buying records around 2009; mostly at live shows as a way to support indie artists. My first RSD title was the John Mayer - The Complete 2012 Performances Collection and I literally paid just under $15 CAD for it. In fact, for years a lot of what I picked up through Amazon were $15-20 CAD. For me, I had the most fun going to RSD from 2013-2015. After that, I stopped lining up and would head down an hour or two after opening. Though I was not among the smaller population of record collectors who never stopped buying records through the 90s, I did get in at the tail end where prices were reasonable and I also built some of my collection from thrift finds; which have dried up (at least where I am) as well. Now, 10 years and a pandemic later, the vinyl resurgence has sent prices skyrocketing and quality can be spotty. After amassing 1000+ records, I've started to sell off / trade-in some of records that I never play to help finance recent buys + quality / my shorted-list titles over quantity. Count me as one person who finds this the best RSD list since possibly before the pandemic, but I will still be reading Hoffman Forums to get a beat on which pressings are likely to yield a good listening experience versus getting stuck with a dud pressing. Lastly, it's gotten to the point (safe for a few exceptional titles) where one can find and order what they want from an online indie record store seller; thereby still supporting them without the hours in line. Yes, I've had some good conversations waiting in line but ultimately, I'm kind of done with that part of it.
I agree 100%, my store even gives me a list so i can order what i want
I have a record store near me that gets a lot of the neighboring vendors involved as well as local bands and food trucks. The line keeps getting longer and longer regardless of releases. Personally, I think there are some manufacturers doing a great job with the jazz releases. I would like to see the list in general shrink in quantity. That's where its gotten overblown to me. Pricing? Meh. If its worth it to me, I buy. If not, I dont. Vinyl pricing in general is ridiculous. Its not just RSD.
Why would the margin that record stores make on RSD be any more difficult to bear than the margin they make on every other day of the year?
Because RSD releases generally cost more and stores aren't really able to stray too far from MSRP, so they end up having thinner margins on a lot of the releases.
It was cool when records were not popular and more of a niche thing and this event really boosted a lot of struggling record stores and potentially gained them new customers. Now it's so commercial and its just full of bargain bin releases that no one really wants. I think it's become a joke personally
I 100% agree!
Have you ever been to encore records in Ann Arbor? They had great used records when I lived there
Not very often but whenever I am I always find some good stuff. Same with Underground Sound in Ann Arbor.
I used to go but haven't gone the past couple years and its indeed lost its fun factor ... even a so called "good list" this year is not all that it was hyped to be
I was never a RSD kind of person. I’m more of a thrifter. Although that has been harder to do. That being said, RSD has gotten just too expensive. I’m too cheap to do it. I’m too old to get up at 4 am and stand in line until 9 am. Although being a Ronstadt fan boy there is a new box set coming out. I will probably wait to see if it comes down in price. Hey That’s just me.
As a record store owner, I can see what you're saying about making RSD more event friendly again, but all of that affects the bottom line, and the margins have been getting slimmer every year with many down to a 20% markup if you're lucky. Finding the funds to finance other things is difficult. Another observation is that every store likes to do things their own way, so as a consumer, you can pick which one you prefer based on that. Some people actually like to see the records, so we do a line with all titles alphabetical in order to give people that chance, as 90% of the records look better or more interesting in person than they did on the RSD website. That way it's still organized and not a free for all. But other stores may want it differently. You bring up some good points about product, although I can't see the date changing as so many people go away for summer vacations and are spending money on experiences, not records, and where it falls now is near tax refund time...
I agree with you on a lot of your comments! To me RSD has turned into a fight to get that RSd only release that only has 3000 copies released People camping out in line to get that release that probably will be released down the road to everyone People fighting with each other!! No thanks
2:05 thats exactly what it is 🤣
SPOT on Nick 💯
In my area it's fine. No problem.
🤟 It didn’t lose its magic, it just evolved like all things music do. The social media today it’s a different world. Still great passionate ppl and young ppl carrying on interest in vinyl. Indie shops being supported and looking forward to the day, rsd still beautiful experience. This is my 10th year and this one looks to be fantastic. A Beatles record player, rare Queen 7inch, various super rare jazz and punk collections and anniversary releases sry this years haters will miss this.
I'm just upset that the Tricky 2LP Orange RSD for Angels With Dirty Faces is a UK ONLY RSD release. Very sad.
It's all about the exclusive records for the collectors and I'm part of the problem ... Also my shops don't receive the records on time or the price is much higher than the price on the webshops. I would scrap the "store" in RSD and just keep it Records Day
Sometimes I really think it depends on the store. I live in a small rural community and only have one shop in general within 45 minutes of me. The owner is very inconsistent with what he does, how he handles a line, Ect which makes it frustrating and makes me want to participate less.
In situations like that I think it would be helpful if RSD required a standardized format for how RSD works. I’ve been to some stores where it’s pretty much just chaos when the doors open, and others where it’s a smooth process.
@@TheVinylDen yes for example last year he stated on his social channels that he would open the doors so people could wait inside at 8 am but not buy until 9. I made the trip and got there at 630 and there was no line so I just took a walk around town but kept an eye on the store. At around 7:15 I walked back by and noticed the lights on and people in the store. He decided to start letting people in before 7 and by the time I got there it was given the #14 to buy and had missed out on a lot of what I was looking for. Just a frustrating situation. I agree that there should probably be more of a standardized process.
I think the number of titles on RSD needs to be pared down considerably. It seems like there's too many live albums being released. I also feel there is this feeling of "Hey! Just try to find anything on this band or artist and just put it out!" Just for the sake of a 'new toy' so to speak. I think the number of titles needs to be about 50-100 or so. I also think there doesn't need to be a Black Friday RSD either. I really appreciate the video and your opinion, Nick! Keep on spinnin'
I think you’re right, they should trim back the number of releases. There are way too many releases watering down the RSD list.
I still love RSD, but the magic is gone . I still get out there between 2:30 and 3:00 am
Me too. As much as I complain about it, I’ll still be out there way too early in the morning so I can be close to the front of the line. 😂
@@TheVinylDen Hey Nick, quick question. Which outer sleeves do you use for your vinyl
Nothing I want this record store day…..was nothing that I wanted last record store day……hope things change 🤞
Hey brother what do you do for a real job. Just curious, thanks
I’m an er nurse
I was not impressed this year with record store day. Seemed like it was on repeat. :)
.......That said i’ll probably pop into my local one on record store day to see the carnage that’s been left behind! Unless everyone has abandoned it now because they’re skint! (Got no money to the American viewers!)
It really only blew up once the swifties got involved. The list this year is extremely meh. I mean would it kill the doors and U2 to miss a RSD or 2? Their releases have been total crap.
The magic is gone because the majority of releases are the same every year. Cure picture discs, live albums that no one wants, Hillbillies from Hell volume 82 and albums that rank low in artists discographies.
If there's ONE album I have my eyes on, the magic is there. But every year they scrape the bottom of the barrel for some weird reason.
They definitely need to get back to pressing the albums that people want. It would be interesting to know what percentage of RSD titles people are still listening to a couple years after they picked them up on RSD. I think there’s quite a few albums that get bought for the novelty factor and then rarely get played.
Dunno - I don't see this as an issues that shops are responsible for. Record stores don't decide what is released - that's the (stupid) record companies - safe (or, worse, pointless; hello Fleetwood Mac Rumours picture disc) releases that are horribly overpriced - this is not the fault of the record store. Having said that, I think its the responsibility of the bigger chains (e.g., HMV in UK, Sunrise in Canada, etc) to *tell* the suppliers/record companies that they are killing the market for (new) music enthusiasts with excessive prices. With LPs nearly 3x the cost of vinyl, and people having limited funds, its just a foregone conclusion that things like RSD will lose their appeal.
sorry, means LPs 3x the cost of CDs
No longer really care....its just become such a money grab. Its run its course...so again no longer really care