Your Locals Are NOT That Serious
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 มิ.ย. 2024
- A reminder that if you are lucky enough to have locals, they are not some major tournament that you should take seriously.
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I don't live in an area with locals and have never been to one, but this feels like a "I went to a public event and didn't understand how everything worked and got weirdly mad because I am not an adult yet" kinda situation. Smash!
Smash.
I had a similar experience to this but the joke was on me lmao. The dude who put the headphones in and took the sound told me that I should've brought my own headphones and I was like can I get a TO? Turns out my opponent was the TO so it was fuck me I guess lmao
lmao damn TO abuse
I'm gonna come to a local with my own headset. Monitor. Gaming chair. Modded console with a macro controler and a fucked up controller for P2. Then get pissed on Twitter when these biased TO's DQ me
HECK YEAH, brother. I’m bringing my own HDMI cable because this one has the exact right amount of video signal degradation that I’m used to at home, I’m bringing a sports psychology performance coach to help me maintain my mental composure, and I’m even bringing the extra controller that I want my opponents to use. One of the buttons gets stuck down sometimes but it works fine, mostly.
Don't forget to bring your own table or desk for maximum comfort, max height to eye ratio for optimal gaming~
You know the TO is biased when they don't want the other player to use my 15 year old madcatz controller with missing trigger buttons.
? I would get pissed too because why am I responsible for the controller my opponent has? 99% of tourneys are byoc lol
Most beginners I know are anxious enough to go to locals as is cause they aren't "good enough", this dramatic additude hurts the perception of the hardcore FGC. 11 people and he's acting like it's a invitational over headphones wtf.
The guy is an absolute goober. Part of joining a community is following their rules, you can't bring your own rules into someone else's house.
Good way to put it
You can, just gotta do it step by step
@@heroe1486that’s some psyop shit, someone take him to the lab 💉
@@heroe1486 Absolutely you can, just not the way this guy tried. If you want change you have to convince others to want that change too.
You don't get no T without the O. Be nice to your O, or you have no place to go.
bro is spittin bars
it's an 11 person local. 10 of those are probably friends and that extra 1 is the weirdo. NO SHIT THEY ARE FRIENDS WHAT DID YOU EXPECT
Weirdest thing that ever happened to my at one of my local tournaments was I was facing an opponent and to try to psyche me out he stripped off all his clothes and played against me buck ass naked.
yo! You play in the same place as Poongko?!
@@MechaTengu21 no
At a local, that’s weird as heck.
At a major, tell them you want to run the set back for money after. I have a setup in my hotel room.
WTF??? 🤦🏿🤷🏿
@@deadfr0g ok
A weird thing I’ve noticed with a lot of smash players is that a lot of them really want their game to be seen as a legitimate part of the FGC, yet at the same time they don’t treat their own game or community like a standard FGC game does
When I look at this, it’s almost like this guy is trying to force a standard that he thinks exists with fighting game events at his small time local. A standard that really just doesn’t exist at all.
It’s like they want all the notoriety and respect that being part of the FGC garners while at the same time not understanding what any of it means
Jiyuna coming in with the timely news update
The message is timeless.
Someone tried to paint it as "why am I being punished for being prepared?"
Except they're not being punished, they're being asked to play in a fair situation. You brought your audio equipment, great. The TO has no obligation whatsoever to allow you to use it if that puts your opponent at a clear disadvantage.
"The opponent should've been prepared!" He was prepared...to play with monitor audio, or even with no audio at all. That's the preparation. It's a tournament, not playing in your living room. If someone can't handle playing without headphones because of ambient noise, then maybe it's not for them. Guy refuses to play and then he's trying to act like there's some conspiracy afoot? Ridiculous.
Yupppp
Another aspect of this topic is the idea of "needing" headphones. You touched on it a little bit when you said you're lucky to have any audio at all. In my opinion, the ability to perform under pressure, with distractions is part of the spirit of competition. I've beaten players in bracket who are "better" than me because I maintained my mental composure better than they did, and it's another skill that comes into play. I find that to be an interesting and valid factor in competitions.
Yeah there is never a perfect situation for tournament play, gotta be able to play in any condition
my old TO called it "herding a bunch of kittens". after I ran a tournament on a navy ship, I fully understand. I NEVER want to do it again.... imma do it again. edit: spelling and clarification
The T.O's prayer: "Fuck this shit, that was stressful as fuck. See y'all at the next event!"
I learned that locals aren't that serious when I went to one for T7 as a yellow rank Eliza and got 2nd place somehow. I got a $5 dollar pretzel from the venue. Id say it was worth lol.
On god them food prizes are amazing lol
I miss Auntie Anne’s
it's wild, i don't go to events like this, even though i'd like to, partially bc im kind of a recluse and im scared of like weirding people out or spoiling the vibe by being skittish and anxious or whatever. then there's guys like this, who not only act like total unashamed weirdos in a public, intimate setting, but broadcast their experiences being an insufferable nerd to the internet afterward-and presumably do so every month or whatever. kind of puts how silly my own fears are in perspective, i guess
Hey a lot of us who aren't currently skittish weirdos actually used to be one at some point and thus don't mind at all when somebody less socially competent shows up and puts themselves out there in a friendly manner.
I can't see something like that being a problem, especially for a videogame-related meetup. I've made friends with plenty of awkward individuals at various conventions and other such events. I think you'd be pleasantly surprised at how welcoming such places can be, you certainly wouldn't be alone
Serious enough for him to hog the fucking sound, why does it have to get taken from me cause he couldn't handle ambient noise.
"i dont like ambient noise" well yeah i like having my fucking game audio why is he suppoed to get priority
I struggle to play with ambient noise too. autism. so I plug my headphones into MY PHONE. That guy was just a selfish asshole
Haven't had a local nearby for years, but I remember a friend of mind getting upset because he couldn't hear the game audio on the SF setup because all the Smashers had their setups on full blast with modded in anime songs playing lol. Miss that place. They had a retro games and stick part shop. Respect your locals, because they tend to not last forever kids, appreciate them when you have them and don't be weird.
Yup, they are charity and can disappear in a moment
Smash players are never gonna beat the allegations man
Never
He not only stole the audio from his opponent, but from the audience as well.
Imagine going to the cinema and plucking in your headphones, so only you have audio and a nice time. (Thank god that is not possible)
The audience at an 11 person local lol
When I lose consistently... I am gonna rage and complain.
If I WIN, it is a game, but if I LOSE... it is a stinking waste of time - Al Bundy ;)
My GOAT Al
Anyone siding with Headphones guy needs to be studied in a lab.
"If ambient noise was such an issue you should've stayed home"
Everyone wants to play up being a victim to validate their views, especially when they are one hundred percent in the wrong.
I just ran our first local tournament after weeks of cultivating a young new local FGC in a small town. We did an 11 person Soul Calibur 6 tournament and had a ton of fun. Some people had been practicing for a few weeks, some just started today, and we got some good matches. I tried to be encouraging to everyone so no one felt disappointed at a loss. We streamed it so there's a VOD they can look back on to see how they did, and I'm available to help coach. Gonna do a different game every month.
Keep it up
I'm a TO and back in the day a guy told me to put a halo tournament and i told him i Don't have that many Xboxes if he had them i would put a table for him, the madman came with 6 xbox360 and played with his friends 😂😂
Baller
Yes, you lucky if you have some local events. In EU often needs to travel to get a local event, and is very expensive
You say it's not that serious but I now bring earbuds and a splitter to smash tourneys as well as one I went to, this dude next to me was just breathing HARD next to me during the set. Must be the 1% that takes it seriously.
You also forgot to mention the world champion of P4AU showing up to your locals. XD
Thank you for covering this. As someone who knows a bunch of people from that dude's scene, I'm glad most people think that guy's reaction was insane.
I get being thrown off by the noise of a large venue but there ain't no way 11 people are generating that much noise 💀
I mean 10 people discussing/joking in a small room can definitely make tons of noise, enough to get you distracted at least
commenting to boost the channel for that Arakune trials Video
I can't wait for my first local so I can say "lag" and walk off
09'er here I can't imagine getting mad because I can't plug in my headphones and I've went to places with NO sound coming out of the monitors.
I’m used to no sound at events
Jiyuna my goat. I love your content man and talking about running things as a TO as community service really resonated with me. My local scene is pretty dry and I've been wanting more stuff to develop. But maybe I need to be that guy to set it up so people can come together.
Shoutouts tatakai Tuesday man. I moved to Japan like two years ago and finally got around to going a few months ago. Nice to have a way to break into the scene because I was super nervous about it. I’ll have to introduce myself next time because I’ve seen you around them lol
Sadly no blazblue locals around anymore. I was 8 years too late
Old man begging me had me look up my local and see when i can go
Funny. I entered my first tournament yesterday and this exact same thing happened to me. My non-FGC friend described her hogging the audio as bad etiquette but, I just accepted it because i thought I should be able to play even without audio anyway. I didnt know it was actually something people got that upset over though.
An informative and creepily well-timed video this is.
Bro played for money for free 😔Last local I went to I got litterally clowned on mid game by more experienced players but honestly it just made it more fun and memorable. Sure at majors I could understand but taking the fun out of the game at such a small scale is lame, didn't think people would side with him but twitter I guess, thank you for showcasing it!
The consequences of esports and Twitter entering the scene. Everything is a sweatfest. Everything needs to be drama.
This has nothing to do with esports. This is the most childish dispute ever.
Jiyuna keeping the FGC alive!! keep at it pop!
For those who still don’t get why OP is in the wrong. Your brain can process audio cues faster than visual cues, which can aid in reacting. So having sound is obviously preferable to having no sound. If both players have no sound, it is what is. But if one player has sound, that player has the advantage. OP basically stole the game audio and said “I can’t concentrate with background noise going on, but I’m forcing you to” to their opponent. Very self-centred behaviour.
I feel like everyone is glossing over the fact that OP always brings a splitter to accommodate his opponent. (Probably because Jiyuna misread it in the video) This doesn't completely put headphones guy in the right in my opinion, but it does shift the narrative a bit from him being some unaware weirdo who doesn't understand why he has an advantage.
To a certain degree I do understand his argument of "if they cared that much about sound to where they'd refuse to play the set, you should have brought your own headphones and used my splitter" but at the end of the day he should have played the set on even terms and accepted it when the TO asked him to.
Back during the peak of competitive Smash 4, my scene had a tourney series called "Outer Realm Legends". We had a main bracket and anyone that went 0-2 or drowned in pools could enter an amateur bracket for free. It went for a while and one day we had the idea to do a milestone tournament. Me and the other TOs had put in a 500 dollar pot bonus. Day of the tourney we had a relatively large turnout...only for the power to go out at the venue. We ended up just hanging out the entire day because the power didn't return until super late lol. Locals aren't serious man. Just enjoy yourself and the company of people with which you share some common ground.
Man.. as someone who competed in smash (and other FGs) from like the end of brawl to the start of the pandemic, it hurts my soul that it's always the smash players with shit like this.
Commenting on every video before Arakune BBCF. Smash players mannn.
I went to a convention and thought it would be fun to enter a MVC2 tournament, since nobody really knew how to play and everyone was using dreambird controllers. Some dude rocked up with a full fight stick with a dreamcast adaptor, and we knew we were cooked.
Met him at quarter finals and when I hit him at round start he went over and told me that it was a button check, despite no one else at the event doing button checks. Ok fair enough, restart the round. Proceeds to absolutely obliterate me. I guess he just plays by the rules, that's fine I guess.
I go to character select for the next match, before realising that the controller isn't plugged in on main stage because Mr joystick didn't bother to plug it back in. Truly a menace.
He then knocks his next opponent into losers bracket in the most disgusting way possible. The other player fat fingers a pause, while they are 0-2 down near round start. mr fight stick sets down his controller down and refuses to play the rest of the set, calling over the TO.
There was no reason to do this, he was already putting this man in the blender with the sweatiest comp imaginable.
That man who got knocked to losers absolutely destroyed the 3rd place guy, not out of spite, he just had somewhere he needed to be.
We were all cheering for him, the other guy was an asshole. Then Mr Joystick unleashed his full power. It was a massacre. It was hard to watch. The dreambird controller was too weak, the stick drift too large to overcome. He actually played the game semi competitively, but there was no getting over the dreambird curse.
They were running budokai after that, but my day was ruined. I just did not feel like playing after seeing that man.
This is definitive proof that god is not real, he would not have let this happen if he was.
My "locals" are an hour train ride plus a 20min walk to get too, and then if they run late I risk missing the train home =(
Yup, that's a lot of people. The event I run is an 1 hour from me.
"The TO and him are friends" y'know, there's a good chance the TO is friends with the other people there 😂
lmao
Sweating people at your local is diabolical
I feel like I would bring a headset for my opponent if I planned on doing something like that. If they didnt want to use it then I would just run the monitor sound.
Imagine coming to an organized event that more people than you took time out of their life to prepare- and you somehow make it about yourself. Bro we are all nobodys- get a grip.
Lowkey making me miss the Tatakai Tuesday posts on this channel lol
There’s always a weirdo at every local, major or big event. It’s become part of the scene unfortunately.
One of the best people in the Smash scene is someone's mom. She supports her kid by going to all the locals (i believe she also pays entry to help TO's) and when at majors, she runs a Mom booth where she sells things like chapstick and deodorants. Shout out to Momma Toaster. People seem to behave when she is at a local because none of them want to disappoint a mother figure.
Lmao keep up the good work, mom
I go to locals to (mostly) goof off and vibe and it always confuses me when I see people like this who treat everything like a major
Like buddy half the people are drinking and the other half is trying out new tech/characters and the results don't matter outside of some pocket change
The punchline folded me straight into that peter griffen broken family guy pose IN the yamcha pit.
Most tourneys ive been to had no sound in pools on most setups lmao
The biggest thing to remember is that locals are usually comprised of frequent attendees- people who know each other/are friends. Don't be the one guy nobody knows who acts like an entitled brat. Everyone is there to have fun and play some games with new people.
At my first local I accidentally messed up the audio in my first match due to using a PS4 pad and felt bad about it. It even was on stream.
Thankfully everyone didn't really mind, but now I always keep an eye for this stuff
I remember last time i went to my locals. I mostly play rhythm games at the arcade but they had a fgc monthly signed up with granblue. Little to my knowledge they were running round robin and i was the one getting robbed. I had a great time but man my friends still crack jokes when i got smacked around that day.
I started to attend locals in my area. Met tons of cool people & having fun. I will try & attend as much as I can & git gud. Highly recommend others to join especially the young talent ones.
Ultimate locals pretending to be serious is comedy gold
Sometimes it's not about sweatness. For people with autism it may be literally impossible to play with ambient sounds. I went to local once in my life and wasn't able to play bc of this. I didn't cause any drama, but never went to any locals after that.
It’s fine if something is not for you as long as you don’t ruin it for others.
Yeah this is exactly the reason I don't really agree with people dog piling this person, they knew they'd need it and even brought a splitter so they wouldn't be hogging the sound, which is kinda the best you can do if you're in a situation where overstim is a worry. The comments about the TO were uncalled for but otherwise I get why they're upset.
Send this video to Lordnight. Let him know local wins don’t matter.
1- You are not buying a service from a local's TO. The TO is doing you a favor. You are not entitled to have locals.
2- The first condition for any competitive activity is equal conditions. If the conditions can't be ideal, they still must be fair. You are not entitled to your specific ideal conditions.
3- Ifs your selfish needs ruin the fun for the group, you are not needed in that group. Go home.
Yes
2 is absolute bs, it's like coming with a 6 buttons stick and asking your opponent to unmap 2 of his
Smash is one of the many fighting games I’ve enjoyed throughout my life.
They are easily the weirdest community I’ve been a part of.
And I used to be a part of the Sonic fan base😬
sided with the normal human 😭
I didn't know this was a local too yeah he's definitely doing too much
That thumbnail is hilarious.
For example if ken does dragonlash i usually use the audio to recognize the version so imagine i couldnt do that
As someone who quite literally breaks down from audio sensory overload, I just bring noise cancelling headphones to any big event, if it’s a gaming event/tourney/local, I plug it into MY controller so the other person still has sound.
It quite literally is that simple, that weirdo was just being an ass and thought he could use his excuse to get sympathy
Ngl im kinda sweaty at my locals cause I do want to win (since it effects your seeding for offline majors in our country). We have smash at our locals and ngl they take the sweat and salt to a whole new level 🤣. Our locals just this week I beat smashers in SF6 and T8 both were hella salty and stormed off after haha
Personally i just wear my own earbuds and listen to music on my phone when im at a tournament. Its not like you'd be able to hear the game clearly anyway or as you said at all bc monitor audio either sucks or doesnt have any.
The only time i have ever cared was when i played against characters with important audio cues and those are a far and few inbetween.
If it’s in your ability, go to your local!!
This kind of video makes me scared for TOs sanity and the future of locals. Never participated, but respect for organizers and regular players
Reminds me of someone that I know who always plugs in their headphones to take the audio from everyone when they’re playing sets.
Like, I bring my own external speaker that’s loud enough for both players on the setup, so that we can both have audio.
And this dude would straight up unplug my speaker so that only he can get audio for himself, and legit get confused/upset when we’d be like “Why not allow others to have audio as well, since there’s a loud enough speaker already plugged in for both players?”
Sooner or later, these sorts of peeps are gonna eventually have to attend a big event, and are going to be forced to either play fairly, or get destroyed by basic logic and having to deal with the reality that not everyone is gonna just bow down to someone’s unfair demands. 😂
This was also a 12 person event including the person bro can’t deal with 10 ppl outside of the set talking assuming also nobody else was in a set.
11 person local* so 9 ppl outside of the set ambient sound really affected him ok.
@@dedlyquen3215 Ofc it can, some people need calm conditions to focus, certainly the same kind of people that can't do their homework or work with background music, it's pretty common
I was a halo2 and 3 pro...ive seen some crazy crap at locals. Heck ive seen crazy crap back in Texas at the big tournaments this was b4 cell phone cameras. I wish i had videos of it, it was like bum fights but dorky lol
Dork Fights
#SupportYourLocals S/O Xanadu Games in Laurel, MD. Melee, Ultimate, and FGC weeklies. Huge venue, plenty of setups to go around. We’re spoiled here in the DC metro area
Xanadu been holding it down for a while
I agree it's not that serious, but not mentioning the "he played a Snake earlier in the bracket on a monitor WITHOUT audio" part of the rant is pretty crazy. If this context is legit the weirdo is 100% in the right even if we think it's not that serious
Issue is the monitor they were going to play that match on had audio. It'd be one thing if there'd be no audio to begin with and then he had headphones. Fine, sure, whatever. But the monitor had audio, and then he wanted to use his headphones and deprive his opponent of it. Nah.
@@AirLanceralso the fact this issue was grand finals. yea id maybe be a little less picky earlier in the bracket too, and less willing to compromise on NOT HAVING AUDIO for grands lmao
I get the idea of wanting the best possible chance to win. I also get the attitude of taking every tournament seriously even if it is just an 11 man weekly tournament.
But it crossed the line when he felt it was appropriate to as a player modify the tournament setups. And then on top of that of that made it his opponents problem to produce headphones or be without audio. When we are having this issue in the first place because of him. Like if I sucked it up playing without audio on the other setups. And then when I finally get a good setup I have someone pull this nonsense on me. I've dealt with some weird people at various locals and events (most which I like). But he would have had to catch me in a charitable mood to solve this shit for him. I'm sure if he went about it in a different way they could've easily produced another pair of headphones, everyone would be smiling an he would have had the match in the way he wanted to have it.
If he feels strongly about how the tournaments should have their setups he should become active within their community and implement the change he wants to see for the next tournament. Blasting your locals on twitter is not the way to do it. Then him complaining about the TO being friends with the other guy just sent me lol. I'd hope people who regularly go to locals becomes friends with each other. I'm sure he could have made that claim that the TO was friends with every other participant in that tournament except him. If he gets his stick out of his ass he would for sure make some friends too. It takes a lot of active effort to not make friends at a local.
I feel like this just showcases an inexperienced player. I remember when I first started going to my locals and competing in brackets I came in with a similar competitive perspective.
I was surprised to see my locals didn't have things like audio splitters and the like that would allow us to play in ideal conditions. But I quickly realized that I had just hyped up the level of competitiveness in my head and it was a much more collaborative experience and environment.
Also, a huge benefit I have come to take out of the variety of levels of professionalism of different community run events is is teaches you to roll with the punches and be able to perform across a variety of settings. This helps strengthen an FG players resilience to mental stack in my opinion! Builds focus! Makes better players! And we can have fun while doing it, no downside IMO.
I wish I had a local. I live in a pretty populated city (40k) but there is like 0 interest or a place to run it at.
My first local was a Smash Bros Brawl local, I got 41 out of 97. I don't know how I was okay with playing Brawl competitively back then. I'm so glad I moved out from competitive Smash and onto traditional FGs, 'cuz I don't feel any frustration or disappointment when hearing this story, just laughs.
I just started learning Japanese. You're name being free is pretty funny as a years long fan
I'm changing my name to Kibō and coming to Japan to challenge you to Rock Paper Scissors. Have the shorts ready.
Is there a way to find locals in my area? Unfortunately i don't have great internet but i love fighting games and really want to improve
I cannot stress enough how much of themselves TOs and people who run locals put into their events. It's more often than not a thankless endeavor, like a child who never hugs you.
Time, effort, and - in more cases they you'd think - money are put in for the sole purpose of keeping certain games alive in the area. No return expected beyond the satisfaction that something that was worth doing was done.
I'm fortunate to have pretty much never encountered someone as ungrateful and selfish in any of the communities and events I ran. But, you can bet that someone like this would never be welcome again.
It's one thing to have a chat with the TO in private to clear up the air and another to put them on blast on social media.
Ive ran a local that's only once every year! And the peeps that gave me and my grew a real issue was the smash peeps which is just a pain like my friend of 14 years plays that game but damn! People that showed up were just giving us problems that night to the point it was making my switch flip and i do mma. Lol BE NICE TO YOUR TO PEOPLE
Yeah talking shit about the TO was weird as hell. I think there is a way for the software to play out loud while mirroring the audio to the headphones which would have been the optimal solution.
Seeing this tweet was crazy for the first time, entitlement at an all time high
Edit: at my tekken locals we don't even be getting sound cos they be boosting music over the speakers LMAOOO just play the game brother
Yuppp
This is that main character plague that is running wild
I dunno, locals in Indianapolis are just not for me anymore. No point of going when they ain't trying to run the games I'm into.
Also yeah, I'm the weird one, but at least I asked the TO would my hentai stickers on my PS5 be a problem 😂
The Smash Bros community 😮💨
Smash players calling someone else a weirdo is just a way of indicating him he's part of the pack tho
What's the track playing in this video?
when i win dbfz world champ im gonna head to jiyuna local just to steal audio from my opponent 😈
Hey im coming to japan this week for two weeks, wheres the info for tatakai tuesday?
Tatakai Tuesday hashtag on Twitter
Don’t be weird, don’t be awkward?
That’s half the fgc lol
Let me plug in my oculus or else youre bias
classic smash players being dramatic
I play most games with no sound.
stuff like this makes me think there should be a minimum age for the internet
maybe that's harsh but the kid's outburst probably should have been seen by a few people but now thousands of people witnessed his immaturity-- which is fair it's the internet, don't say things you don't want others to see, but kids don't understand how big the world is or how silly they sound until they get older
hopefully he looks back on this day as a silly episode and laughs about it later
bruh. shi crazy that anybody even agreeing w that dude to begin with.
wild how normal it is seeing foolish ass behavior now days