"Will You Give ANY Condemnation Of Hamas?" Israel-Palestine Debate | Abby Martin vs Emily Schrader
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- Piers Morgan Uncensored is joined by American journalist Abby Martin and American-Israeli journalist Emily Schrader to discuss the conflict in Gaza between Israel and Hamas.
The pair discuss with Piers Morgan whether what's happened is genocide before debating the death figures on both sides and how this war can ever come to an end.
Editor’s note: This debate was recorded before the reports of seven aid workers being killed in an Israeli air strike.
00:00 - Introduction
02:20 - Does what’s happened in Gaza constitutes genocide?
04:54 - “There is a certain degree of complicity with many of the population”
05:30 - “You’re using that poll to make innocent people guilty”
09:17 - Abby calls Emily a "paid propagandist for the Israeli government”
12:00 - Genocide in Gaza: The UN, the ICJ and America
15:00 - Gaza and Palestinian suffering
17:50 - Piers asks Abby if she condemns Hamas
20:05 - “I don’t accept that 13,000 children have been killed"
22:01 - “Nothing that Hamas did on Oct 7 matches what Israel did”
22:20 - “Killing civilians is wrong”
28:50 - "It’s not laughable, is it?"
29:14 - How does this war end?
30:10 - “The best and brightest of Palestinian society have been destroyed”
31:38 - Should Hamas stay in power when this is over?
32:30 - Should Netanyahu remain in power after the war?
34:30 - Is a two state solution the answer?
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at this point, "do you condemn hamas" should be the title of this channel.
Because nobody ever answers the question.
Because people like you support evil groups, that's why they must be condemned, because you don't.
@@bassiejazz no one needs to say anything bc hamas doesn’t need condemnation for fighting to be free from israeli occupation lmao. condemn israel for being nazi as hell and carrying out a holocaust rn
@@bassiejazz They're too afraid hamas is gonna come get them.
And look how few reply with the only-only-correct answer there could be to that question.
"Most Zionists don't believe that God exists but they do believe he promised them PALESTINE"
- Ilan Pappe
Because the state of Israel is forbidden by God 😊
Ilan pappe doesn't exist for us too 🥱
You Jew hater !
read a bible
I like that statement. 😂😂😂
@@kat-75I have. Full of contradictions, interpolation, anonymous authors, errors and depraved tales of incest, and massacre of infants.
What war has ever been fought where civilian casualties were not had?
Too many differences in causalities to call it a war 😂 why are they recording how many Hamas terrorists they’ve killed but not civilians lmao they don’t care about the gazans
There is obviously one larger power with advanced military and billions in funding while the other side is trapped in a densely populated area that they cannot get out of without proper access to electricity, food, and water. This is calculated civilian extermination and it is sickening that you can act as if any war is okay.
@@user-bs4oq9xv7p "calculated civilian extermination" but statistically the numbers just grew over the years lol
@@akimbo5u Tell me you know nothing without telling me you know absolutely nothing.
@@akimbo5u The fact that you ended that message with “lol” tells me everything i need to know. You are obviously ignorant and heartless.
This is where both sides go wrong, you can condem the actions of Israel while at the same time condemning the HAMAS attacks, anyone would refuse to condem an attack like that is making themselves look bad..
You miss the point Israel was the one who was done the wrong and when America was attack who stop them from raping the Middle East and waay more people died during that occupation in fact after they had achieved there goal they stayed and your veteran war hero’s came home and told stories oct 7 is no different than 911
Learn about the Nakba of 1948
No, actually people are simply rejecting the premise constantly set by piers in his each show. Once he's done with "condemn Hamas" game he goes on saying "they knew that Israel was going to blowback". There he evades the fact that October 7th was already a blowback to what has been going on and since decades. People are not willing to be made guided step by step with piers' line of defect reasoning only to be left disoriented and end up in contradicting themselves. That is the ongoing fight behind the words. Same thing happened with Emily. She had been rejecting the numbers but as soon as she agreed Israel should kill less children, he turned it over her and said well that means you admit that they kill too many. From the technical debate perspective this is why a condemn game for each side bounces back and forth and noone agrees to play this game with him. Having said that he spared the Israeli side from such discomfort for a long time until recently.
@@esrefcelebi Morgan has absolutely no ability to think past the official narrative, has a educated idiot..
Not at all
Sitting there with a smug grin, laughing and smiling while talking about genocide and the death of thousands of children? ...that's is not only sickening, it's absolutely evil.
🤣
They were both sporting smug grins, and which children are you talking about, the ones Hamas raped and murdered or the ones they’re hiding behind so they don’t have to fight on a battle field?
if this is all you got out of this 35-minute video... well, best leave you to it.
She is a true reflection of who she represents!!
True face of Israhell ☠
What about the 90% of Israel's population that agree with what the IDF are doing.
They are the same as the 72% of Gaza agree with what Hamas did
Brainwashed since birth to view Palestinians as subhumans!
Why should they not agree?
Fighting a terrorist threat? The only question is why isn’t it 100%?
Because 20% of Israelis are Arabs
Why should Israel EVER have been, or been expected to be, responsible for the water and electricity supplies of Gaza?? That was and is the direct responsibility of the government of Gaza-HAMAS.
Clueless
Btw your wrong invented and created a recycling plant that takes the ocean water and makes it freshwater. Palestinians did not from 1997 when humas started to control Gazza. They took all US funding. UK funding and other countries funding that’s billions of dollars and started digging tunnels. They didn’t use it for the people for new schools infant structure. All the building still look the same from a long, long time ago. nothing new nothing but poverty, nothing was ever in Gaza. It was ran by a terrorist and controlled the people, and they were scared to even speak out and that’s the truth.
@DavidBidstrup you're right, Israel should stop the occupation and let Palestinians take care of their own water, electricity and security. I kept asking a similar question to myself: why on earth does Israel issue ID numbers to the Gazan people? Guess what, that is what we call occupation.
In fact, the israel have been & is still supplying water & electricity FREE to Gaza even after the Oct 7th incident.
@@steevankeitaro8224 If I was was held captive I would expect to have access to water ESPECIALLY WHEN THE WATER IS MINE TO BEGIN WITH
This is a war....! This is not nice at all. We pray for the kids both sides.
talking about kids being killed and smiling is a true sign of pure evil and psychopathy
Are you seeing good ? Because no one smiled it’s just her face and you can see it in other videos of her . Also to ignore the fact that those “kids”probably were part of Hamas because that’s what happened if you living in Gaza ,you joining one of the terror groups
@@aviyahdrori3459wow you rly think you did something here 😂😩
@@nerdalert2782 no and you think you did something 💀 like all you guys can say look at her smile
@@aviyahdrori3459 🥱
Obviously.
6 months later, 13,000 dead children later, and Piers is still on the lookout for condemnation.
The Palestinians filmed themselves in the streets of Gaza, displaying the bodies of Israeli girls they kidnapped from a music festival,
The Palestinians themselves filmed how they kidnap Israeli children, babies, women and the elderly.
The Palestinians celebrated with jubilation the atrocities they committed on October 7,
The Palestinians broadcast live to the families of the Israeli victims the execution of the atrocities on their loved ones,
Did the Palestinians really not take into account when they started this war, that their actions would have consequences??
You can't start a war and then complain to the world that you are the victim when you lose..
Was the war they started to stop the peace agreements that were about to be signed between Israel and Saudi Arabia, worth it to the Palestinians?
He's a clown.
Yes
Stop supporting terrorism
Who told u that? Hamas
Because he's fake news
This women on the left is clearly a Hamas apologist
Indeed, she is.
Yes n fool.. Bcuz most wants her to convert
She's hamas
The other one is clearly a genocide apologist.
The colonial settler on the right is clearly a genocide apologist
Aha she doesn't condemn Hamas?😮
Learn about the Nakba of 1948
@@17-MASY
Learn about war declared on new Jewish state by Egypt, Syria, Jordan. And other wars that was started by Arab.
Are you still asking this question 6 months later? This is so stupid.
Piers to an abused child of many years after they hit their parents back: WE NEED TO CONDEMN THE CHILD AND FOCUS ON THE CHILD TO RESOLVE THE ISSUE.
Yeah, because everybody is afraid of condemning what Hamas did
The people who don't want to condemn Hamas are stupid
@@terrojoe Do u condemn the rape victim for hitting the rapist? Or do u focus on the rapist? 🙈
@@tupierorosa723 Of course I condemn the rapist.
And Hamas is the rapist in this case
That woman laughing at dying children, let that sink in.
exactly.
that woman that wont condemn a terror attack which included dying children and rape of minors, let that sink in
@@user-uc4zb2jk4jproof?
She's not laughing at that diet /full sugar labour supporter , or if in the US , demicrat
@user-uc4zb2jk4j not a single peice of evidence was proven. Name anyone that was raped and beheaded. Not a single one. We've had enough of your lies.
Where was Abby during the Syrian civil war?
She has been specifically covering the conflict in Palestine for years, like in the (Empire Files), So this is her job.
Bringing other wars here is a distraction and "Whataboutism".
She is speaking the truth now, and that is what matters.
Also, I highly doubt that you actually care about Syrians.
@@17-MASY , wat truth?
And Yemen. And China. And Lebanon. And rohingya. And...
@@south88park right? How convenient for her to now be in the so called spotlight, when she was a nobody 6 months ago...
Is it don't know 1 conflict, should ignore all conflicts including the famous ones nowadays ?
Actually... HAMAS was the result of the PLO being too soft and weak, (according to HAMAS) on the aspect of peace. PLO was negotiating and HAMAS wants no peace and no Jews PERIOD. This is why the PLO and HAMAS had internal conflict, dividing the PAL held land, giving the assumption of it being "taken".
The smirk on that women’s face is just evil.
She is evil , what you thought, these people are inhumane
because shes smarter then you ever will be.
@@arielbrown6931 how does an evil smirk make her smart?
But yeah I get you, for zionists, the more you lie and do propaganda the smarter you are.
Keep exposing your warmongering satanic selves
@@arielbrown6931 how does an evil smirk make her smart?
But I understand, for zionists, the more you spread lies and propaganda the smarter you are.
After covering the Gaza war for over 6 months, Piers still does not understand the Palestinian cause nor the history of the middle east, amazing!
Because he is earning 💵
Piers knows. Believe me, he Knows. but he is Not Saying because his Channel will Suffer and he does not want that to Happen. So much for Crap Western freedom.
Will you, Piers, give any Condemnation of The United States of America for killing hundred of thousands ,mainly civilians, with its Nuclear Flashes over the cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki? You have not done that, have you? And you will not. History will catch up with you guys. America has its reasons; so does Hamas. Palestine is facing an Existential Threat by Israel. Israel nearly CANCELLED them just prior to Hamas' uprising.
What Palestinian cause Palestinian = hamas
@@treasuresbytheocean501 I think Piers is pretty well informed and is doing a good job giving a forum to both sides. The fact that so many supporters of the Palestinian side have a hard time condemning the events of OCT 7 is remarkable The loss of innocent lives on both sides is really really sad, but if Hamas would release the hostages and accept the existence of Israel - the current mess would get resolved in a nano second.
Well, when 2000 gazans who are regular citizens entered with the terrorists wouldn't you call those compicit people worst animals? He didn't say all citizens
He did say no one in Gaza above the age of four was innocent.
Stop gaslighting yourself and reinterpreting what Israeli spoke people say.
They are quite clear about how genocidal they are.
Learn about the Nakba of 1948.
You simple minded, they entered their land which was forcefully taken by immigrant Zionists
Peirs, would you condemn Nelson Mandella for being a terrorest or praise him as a freedom fighter.
He'd condemn him at the time but then praise him afterwards. He just supports the status quo.
Piers uploads this title the day Israel murdered citizens of his own country. Think of that, Piers.
His boss is a joo
Recorded before the attacks
They were in Gaza, for fuck sake. Americans are held hostage, too
I'm from Israel and consider this a horrible tragedy.
I think, it happened exactly because of the way Hamas operate among civilians and use civilian cars as a cover.
we lost three Israeli hostages because of this. and Yuval Kastelman died because of this too.
this is still horrible.
@SconnetStudios Stop deflecting. Do you condemn Hamas?
6 months later, 30K dead Palestinians including 10K children later, Gaza reduced to rubbles later, murders of people reaching out for food … piers is still asking « do u condemn Hamas? »
I promised myself never to watch piers again... but I'm 9nly watching for Abby Martin.
Did you actually watch the entire video? Cos from what I watched Piers acted opposite of what you are implying.
Until we agree that there are innocents and guilty people on both sides this argument will go on.
Abby would not condemn Hamas because she's is with them.
@@sausagesalesman427. Those who support Israel are either white supremacists or dogmatic evangelicals who refuse to see that Israel is occupying Palestinan territories and subjecting the indigenous people to the most ihuman sadistic treatment
The one guest will NOT condemn the actions of Hamas on 10/07. Abby won’t say anything that Hamas did on 10/07 was wrong. Unbelievable that Abby doubts the videos Hamas made of them killing citizens. “I’m not going to sit here and condemn Hamas.” This is what Abby said. Remember her.
Abby is a legend. Oh and Long live the resistance you mf genocide supporter
"Obligatorily". And why should she? Is she a representative of hamas? And she is right. It's difficult to know what hamas actually did or did not do after so many lies by the israeli government regarding 7 oct have been debunked
Learn about the Nakba of 1948
Nakba the Arabs created
@@yaelgill33 yeah the Arabs were like please kill us and ethnically cleanse us. Remove us from our homes and occupy our land
Abi Martin used to host a show called breaking the set on RT news channel aka the biggest Pro Russa propaganda media outlet lol.. i remember back then she used to invite some of the fringiest people with the most radical ideas out there.
So, what's your point?
@@MartinFernandes-gr7cb she doesn’t care about Palestine she just wants to jump on the bad bandwagon! She loves to ride the waves of that type of zeitgeists
@@redhat4363 She's been talking and doing journalism about Palestine for years. Doubt she'd be that involved if she didn't care.
hello there from russia
even we know here that she's been paid to lie to the american population and translate complete BS
100% agree on bad bandwagoning
The pro pali cause can't seem to find any decent and honest spokespeople for it. Abi is a propagandist.
You can watch this entire debate with no sound and be able to tell who is lying and who is not.
you are unbelievably unable to process information.. you should stick to no sound!
Literally don’t even need sound 😅
True. So true.
@@boliusabol822what makes you think he can’t process information?
True 😂😂😂
As a brit. I'm ashamed of our one sided journalism
I'm not sure Piers is really one-sided, or rather, I think he's on the side of catching his guests evading questions, contradicting themselves, or saying things his audience will find absurd, and he'd happily spend the whole show on this sport. From what I've seen, this adversarial posture toward guests is common in British journalism.
@@canitbethatyou're right and it's called being unbiased and non-partisan, you don't get that in the States because each network and news channel is beholden to a certain party.
He gets accused of that from Jews and Muslims so to me that means he's doing a great job of journalism. What you mean is that he is not championing your side and cause, get a grip ffs!!
Its not "yours" just because he's British. Most people don't think the majority of British people think like him. And you're not responsible unless you're a Murdoch
@@rjim1 Yes, I think that's true. There are American journalists who can also be very aggressive in their questioning, but usually just toward guests on one side of an issue. I don't think I've seen any Americans who have been equally aggressive to both sides.
If Abby thinks it's genocide, she is in for a surprise if Hamas wins this war
Why?
@@criostoirodriscoll5472 cuz hamas say they want to commit genocide
the pro-Palestinian girl can't condemn Hamas actions?! 🤔
See "The Empire Files"
No, it’s against her narrative.
hamas didn't exists until 1987, 20 years after occupation, as a means of resistance. palestinans has no protection, no military, and you want to remove the only group willing to resist the ethnic cleansing and genocide? hamas is literally palestinians fighting back, must they sit back and watch their people getting killed?
israel started it all, colonization,wars,bombings, even hamas wouldn't exist if israel didn't attack palestine and seize it's territory.
And the girls on the right can't condamn Israel
aid workers blown up by israel.. but "do you condemn hamas?"
I'm from Israel and consider this a horrible tragedy.
I think, it happened exactly because of the way Hamas operate among civilians and use civilian cars as a cover.
we lost three Israeli hostages because of this. and Yuval Kastelman died because of this too.
this is still horrible.
Counter question do you condemn the creator of hamas which is mossad and Jewish Knesset and resistance is not terrorism according to international law
@@juliakazantseva9750who created hamas do you condemn them your present prime minister what he said and mossad plus your Jewish Knesset was behind the creation of hamas google it
@@juliakazantseva9750liar, U are from somewhere in Europe..
@@juliakazantseva9750give me a break Israel is a pariah state since 1948.
Emily’s creepy little smirk while hearing about the atrocities happening to the Palestinians is psychotic.
Tells you everything you need to know ow about her, vile human being
The other guest was also smiling when Emily spoke. I think both sides despise each other and don't believe one another.
Abby Martin talking drivel.
Look, the pro-Palestinian woman literally does not talk about Hamas, cannot respond to the truth that the civilians are complicit. The women are merely Jihad warrior factories.
She also displays signs of complete indoctrination/brainwashing into Israeli Dogma. Not a pleasant person i would want to be anywhere near.
The hypocrites are well demasked with the question: "Do you condemn what Hamas did on October 7th?"
Hum if they were hypocrites they would answer yes. Be logical - if you can.
@@albertmockel6245 No, those are liars!
I think that the salvation of the Palestinian people is in the hands of good Samaritan (Jews) Such as Norman and Dr Jill Stein.
When hiring a propogandist you might want to pick someone without a resting evil smirk. Just a thought
But all she said was true lol . Hamas do take civilians humanitarian aid the minute it come to gaza.Hamas and the civilians there helped to literally kill Israeli civilians no matter how old they are if they’re 1 to 80 . Also the Islamic jihad do joining kids to their terror groups ,and using them as human shields . And if you didn’t know this it’s really embarrassing to even talk about this topic without knowing this basic knowledge
Cruela De Ville right there.
@@bert.hbuysse5569 are you talking about yourself or Abby
youre talking about Finkelstein right?
Lol this was funny
The smirking of the person on the right is so off putting.
Sat there smugly whilst Abby is describing 33,000 dead is vile.
Hamas gave you those figures.
@BillyMandalay US defence secretary testified at least 25,000 women and children had died around a month ago
In previous conflicts, the figures given by the Gaza health ministry have been independently verified as accurate.
Unfortunately, Israel isn't allowing any 3rd parties into Gaza to verify or report on what is happening.
But the figure is likely to be much higher as they're not including those missing under the rubble.
she must be getting paid a lot
@@user-ph2ho1eb5y hopefully you disagree with Israel then and think they should allow independent investigation and verification.
She's making faces because the other guest.. is a very known highly anti-semitic who is dedicated to genocide of Jews ( just her ) and has done a lot of shady things in the past.
When people say that they won't speak in hypotheticals, or otherwise, that means they are "cowards"!!!
Put the blame where it belongs, on Hamas!
Learn about the Nakba of 1948
@@17-MASY I did, Arab leaders urged Arab citizens to leave Isreal so they could destroy it. Too bad for them it didn’t work out that way. By the way not all Arabs left, the ones that stayed became Israeli citizens now numbering well over two million of them.
You have the fake Hasbara version of history
@@donaldleider7382that’s why there a still Israelis demonstrating for that day.
They are defending their stolen land
Emily Schrader, the sort of person who cries out in pain while she is beating you.
Typical tiny hat behaviour.
Typical isahelli
Exactly 😂
you describe entire chosen people. how dare you ! you are antisemite.
Baby marginally more dishonest than Emily
Piers doesn't realize how his tone dramatically changes when he speaks to Palestinian sympathisers as opposed to his softly spoken tone in speaking to pro Israelis.
that's because Hamas is a terrorist group and Israel is a democratic country
He was actually quite calm to both until the one on the left point blank refused to condemn terrorists.
*Hamas sympathisers
@@dani-ks9cg
I disagree to an extent.
The problem with Islam is purely it's interpretation.
The Bible and Christianity, for example, have many things very clearly defined, such as "Thou shalt not kill" and that the concept of marriage is one man and one woman.
The Quran is written in a way that master manipulators can justify their evil acts using the same logic as your every day Muslim.
I think he's probably genuinely shocked that she wouldn't condemn a single thing Hamas had done. The Israeli advocate at least was able to criticize some aspect of what Israel had done.
Recently the Palestinian (Hamas) Health Organization admitted that their numbers are wrong and incomplete. They mention ~11.000 - 12.000 of the registered deaths are not registered correctly.
No and now the UN has lowered thos numbers haven't they and the women and child do not outnumber the Combatants...so lies are being told here..
Why are you quiet on the British citizens that have died piers?
7 British civilians were murdered on October 7th... so uh...
@@Efische2000 British zionist who were also holding Isreali nationality
It's very telling!!!
@@Efische2000so it cancels out then like PEMDAS?
@KoopChicken not really but I guarantee that the people up in arms about those who died because of an error by Israel likely don't care at all about those murdered by hamas
In 1776 Piers' great great grandfather was shouting "Do you condemn the American terrorist rebels?"
In 1831, American slave-owners were shouting "do you condemn Nat Turner and his followers?"
Except that the Palestinian struggle is about 1000 times more morally and legally justifiable than the “American” struggle for “independence.”
pro terrorist detected
Are you a vampire? How do you know this?
Anyone door knob enough to compare October 7th to the American Revolution is likely also doorknob enough to think "great great grandfather" is enough to get all the way back to the 1700s.
These two women represent opposing extremes. Neither are willing to unequivocally condemn violence from the side they support. Piers is the only reasonable one.
I have never heard a war in history when one side is obliged to supply the enemy with food, water and electricity while the other fires rockets at the population in return.
"we are not targeting anyone in gaza but civilians, i mean Hamas", thats an actual quote said by an israeli representative
Oh yeah right 🙄🙄🙄
Where? By whom? Send a link if your going to make such outrageous accusations.
@@Thenoobestgirlhere it is 😊
The problem is she doesn’t think that diaper force are doing anything wrong
"Facts matter. Misquotes and out-of-context statements fuel division. Israel consistently states targeting only terrorists, not civilians, in its defense efforts."
This show gets so boring whenever Piers spends 10 minutes forcing someone to condemn Hummus.
this show gets boring whenever Piers starts talking
He'd only have to spend a second on it if they would answer. But of course, blame the guy asking the question, because you don't like it. It's not her fault for holding up the rest of the discussion
He hates hummus, always been more of a baba ganoush guy.
You do not think it’s important to know ?
Wouldn’t you know if someone think rape is freedom fighting act ? Or if someone think removing head and hanging Bs air is moral act
When you talk about just right morals ?
He gets paid every time he repeat that sentence
There you go Abby you crossed the line, you crossed into condoning terrorism. You're done
She just isn't selective about condemnation. You are just mad she calls out Israel as well, so you pretend that she doesn't call out Hamas.
She is clearly pro Hamas and against Israel. I have watched another of her interviews where she calls 10/7 atrocities Israeli propaganda.
@@nathanielmartins5930 Nah she's just a shill for terrorism.
Actually she said nothing needs to be done with hamas
@@JoeyWolak
And you say Israel should be supported no matter what.
She has called them out before, and she doesn't condone their every decision, unlike your case with Israel.
To your flock, everything an Israeli says is Gospel and infallible.
She can't condemn hamas, but she can condemn israel... oh Lord!
Naturally. What's your point?
she is hamas girl ....
You really need to wake up
Obviously. You say that as if it's a bad thing
Mr Piers do you condemn IDF for killing 7 aid workers????
One from Australian and another from Canada rip
Abby ’s words are true. How does the war end? One of them wants to destroy the other and eliminate him once and for all. Everyone knows Amy’s words
It’s what happens when you go to a Warzone.
@@timmyelalatv Erm... so no aid or workers delivering it should ever enter a warzone, or can any side in a conflict attack aid convoys.
@@timmyelalatv no, it was organized with israels permission. it only happens if you trust israel. they are not trustworthy even 0,01%.
“You literally are a paid Propagandist” I do not know about anyone else but there are so many now you can see one a mile away.
yes i am sure democratic qatar dropping billions on american universities dont make the woke speakers from those univerisites paid propagandists.
says the pro hamassss
and as per usual miss tacky black roots is just a poor one at that it's not LOL anymore. she's just as ignorant as many or most Israelis with her lame propaganda. they are like kids trying to explain "facts" to mature adults with actual facts. just embarrassing. and yet, she's still going to be a paid propO based on her own shallow views of what's going on. furthermore, I personally don't think it's an actual Genocide at the time being but it's definitely in line with potential genocide in the future while actual ETHNIC CLEANSING going on right NOW.
@gunit4205 Supporting a coward that won’t answer a straight question about other cowards says a lot about you.
@@cinesonicvibes Because there's so much $ from the Hamas lobby. Can't even get out of a concentration camp nor feed themselves right now. Compare that to the Israeli lobby backing 98% of US politicians.
Genocide is not the same as collateral damage, which is an outcome of war that was triggered by the so-called victims Hamas and the Palestinians ; who in fact were the ones who started the war in the first place.
they are also called human shields
I would really like to know who is the source of Abby's information??!!!!.
Open sources - check for yourself. She is an independent journalist.
@@graphstyle INDEPENDENT???. YES, WHOM HAS BEEN MISINFORMED.. CHECK ON HOW MUCH TIME SHE WAS THERE!!!!
See "The Empire Files"
My 👀 👁 when I saw rafah footage
Arguing about condemnation while Palestinians continue being killed. What a joke.
Too many thoughts at once right?😂
They brought it on themselves, electing terrorists as their government
This is exactly the point. Very well said. Please stop what is not right. Isreal is killing, wounding, amd inflicting the kind of harm.that will just cause this viscious cycle to continue. How sad that the world has allowed this to continue
The the lady in white is talking with the kind of smirk in her face that makes me wonder how she sleeps at night.
Fafo
You cannot be "in the middle". You're either pro or against genocide. Bravo, Abby!
Either side can argue that. If Hamas had Israel's military capacity, the Jews living there would be extinct.
It's difficult to argue Hamas' has genocidal intent. They're simply lacking the means.
Read their charter if you need a clearer understanding of their intentions.
@DisenfranchisedLiberal you are just using classic Apartheid Africa strategy - use imaginary hypothetical genocide to justify current conditions.
@@brucesnow7125 nothing hypothetical about Oct 7 - you can disregard it but it’s still gonna be there forever.
@ydaube it's funny that you have to point to violence committed in response to 70 years of apartheid to feel superior. ANC committed many horrific acts against SA apartheid too. The same apartheid that Israel was one of the greatest supporter of. Oppression breeds rebellion.
@@brucesnow7125 Okay, well imagine if Hamas had the military resources Israel does?
Hypothesize, please, what they would do? Would they display constraint, in your hypothesized scenario?
Or would they do exactly what their charter says they’ll do? And ask yourself, would you raise one iota of concern at the mass extinction of Jews?
An Englishman says that the owners of the land are terrorists, and those who came from different parts of the world to occupy a homeland that does not belong to them are victims. Unbelievable
I wonder how many times Piers said,
"Do you condemn Hamas?"
Seriously, would anyone like to guess how
many times he has said this? I personally condemn both sides carrying out atrocities!!
How is that? Fair enough Piers?? You should also ask the same question to
the other side and condemn it too Piers!! What they have all done is horrible.
That blonde lady scares me.
it's like.. just pure evil, in one body
Who, the left one who relies on numbers by a terror organization who is known to be liars and whom she refuses to condemn for the October 7th massacres, or the one on the right, who recognized and admitted multiple times that the IDF sometimes makes mistakes and kills children as collateral damage? (a thing that always happens in wars, often in much greater ratio compared to combatants)
They both are blonde 🤷🏼♀️
Which one?
She is evig u right
Correction: fake blonde
Emily is the female version of Schmuly 😅
no she is not , no body is going to do well when defend israel, there is nothing to do but denial, and you will always look delusional when you do that.
Hahahahah rev Emily buttplug
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Butt plug rabbi
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For God sakes, it should be easy to condemn Hamas and still support the Palestinian people. Abby Martin's denial of the Oct 7th atrocity is so weird and approaching a creepy level !
Because it doesn’t push the conversation forward and allow nuance. She just doesn’t want to play piers stupid game
That Emily's smile is sadistic, she looks evil
It's quite telling how one guest looks saddened yet desperately serious throughout this whole debate and the other is laughing, smiling and smirking consistently whilst discussing perhaps the most sickening topic there is to discuss
Smirking at the pretentious lies
Thats all
@@Honestyontap. Clearly you're on one side here. I don't have a side, other than being on the side of not wanting innocent people to die and I found her facial expressions and general demeanour pretty disgusting. That's all I'm saying
@@Honestyontap.Her own lies I assume, many human rights organisations have documented the rape torture that the IDF does. She's probably been to one of those torture sessions, their own media have published that the IDF invite civilians to come watch. Sickening.
@@greeneagle1919 If you really don't want innocent people to die then please condemn Hamas for starting a war and massacring 1,200 people with impunity is impossible.
@@user-uv9tl4jt8w Why aren't you asking me to condemn the killing of innocent civilians on both sides?
Piers giving Emily a cookie for saying the IDF has killed too many children whilst she smirked and laughed was actually so ghoulish.
Matt Leib hilariously comment Emily looks like a shaved grinch and i cant unsee it 😂😂
@@YaldaZadah thats literally every single one of them. she looks like generations of inbreding with cousins.
But she did say it’s too much and bad right? What does it matter how she said that? People have different body reaction to situations and she was smiling the whole interview and she always smile during to interviews. Some people react like that to nervousness. Abby didn’t say anything hamas did was wrong.
@@user-if5ho1zv8o its kind of like what you people do all the time. cry when you get a splinter in nail and smirk when you have upper hand in anything.
@@kizgintosbaga we cry? who started this war, us? we dont cry babe we react. unlike the palestinians, who stated this war and then cry for losing it.
I would be interested to hear how one can be in the middle of a position on October 7. Setting aside my own position, it would seem Piers presents a valid point; you either feel the actions on that day were legitimate resistance in which case you condone them. Or you do not think they were legitimate resistance and you condemn. A person may be uncomfortable with these two options but these seem to be the options available. Providing a canned response that takes no position seems evasive by design.
This conversation just proves that both sides will never agree. So on and on it goes!!
Did piers hear himself when he defined genocide in 5 points? He literally mentioned everything israel is doing now.
Nope.
Genocide is defined by the genocide convention, article II.
And its not genocide, its war
sure thing 🍕nose @@kopolov1
@kopolov1 you didn't listen, and you didn't read the convention
@@n.a.9241
I actually listened.
Heard a lot of Abby basically arguing that Israel has no right for self defense and regular bs
@kopolov1 no, she said, Israel had the right defend itself, but no right to kill innocent people. Israel is not defending itself through killing Babys in Gaza
Emily laughing about children being killed.
Disturbing how she had to force herself to not have a huge smile in her face
You did not talk about People who celebrated on oct 7th. Why ❓️
The Palestinians filmed themselves in the streets of Gaza, displaying the bodies of Israeli girls they kidnapped from a music festival,
The Palestinians themselves filmed how they kidnap Israeli children, babies, women and the elderly.
The Palestinians celebrated with jubilation the atrocities they committed on October 7,
The Palestinians broadcast live to the families of the Israeli victims the execution of the atrocities on their loved ones,
Did the Palestinians really not take into account when they started this war, that their actions would have consequences??
You can't start a war and then complain to the world that you are the victim when you lose..
Was the war they started to stop the peace agreements that were about to be signed between Israel and Saudi Arabia, worth it to the Palestinians?
No; she was laughing at people who wouldn't think that the death of even one kid is too much. So quite the opposite in fact. But if you weren't blinded by your hatred and handicapped by your abysmally low IQ, you would have understood.
Emily is laughing about the idea that it is Israel to blame of deaths of these children. And all rational society as well knows that this is Hamas fault.
The chant of “from River to the sea “ is also genocidal .
which natanyahu has been chanting for a very long time.
He doesnt do his homework just believes the propaganda.
It is exactly genocidal
We agree on that bud
Israel created that slogan. Absolutely genocidal
@@adamrocko1610 Lol, lies just make you sound stupid & you probably are
Accusing Israel of all people of genocide is like accusing the earth of being flat.
r u stupid?
That never ending smirk on her face tells all
Discusting 🤮
Yes, that Abby Martin is a joke to be laughed at.
@@sciencecompliance235 kk yoki
They do that for a purpose but they forget that they are now watched by all the world not just Palestinians and Arabs
Telling "don't kill children" is anti-semetic
The whole problem is in your head.
Is Israel simply bombing some random state? Where in the middle of visiting cafe with friends or some music festival, you can see bullets and bombs?
Or Israel is bombing the locations of the terror organisation which is hiding under ground (we seen 100 videos)
And yes, Israel cares more about its own children and that is why it wants to destroy terror organisation what is raping and killings its own children.
The Palestinians filmed themselves in the streets of Gaza, displaying the bodies of Israeli girls they kidnapped from a music festival,
The Palestinians themselves filmed how they kidnap Israeli children, babies, women and the elderly.
The Palestinians celebrated with jubilation the atrocities they committed on October 7,
The Palestinians broadcast live to the families of the Israeli victims the execution of the atrocities on their loved ones,
Did the Palestinians really not take into account when they started this war, that their actions would have consequences??
You can't start a war and then complain to the world that you are the victim when you lose..
Was the war they started to stop the peace agreements that were about to be signed between Israel and Saudi Arabia, worth it to the Palestinians?
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Tell Hamas to not hide behind them
@@izzykhach Is Hamas in the room with us right now?
Abby was so sharp rebuking the Nestlé girl ten years ago. Now she's feeble and overworked. She should have never left RT. Oh wait, she didn't, her contract was "unrenewed" following homeworkless comments made months earlier about Donbass. Wrong bet, Abby.
Hello, shill.
Abby is a liar who supports terrorists
See "The Empire Files"
She's sitting with a smiling grin while the other woman is talking about kids being killed
There is something seriously wrong with Piers. He seems to lack a fundamental understanding of what is happening here.
He’s a racist hypocrite, thats whats wrong with him
He is paid to lack such understanding
I believe 99% of people outside of the area don't know exactly what's happening.
Is Piers not learning the lesson? The comparison of Hamas with the State of Israel is the problem. That is why people do not want to answer his question - to answer it is to be complicit in the comparison and the injustice in that comparison. It is not denial - it is not being complicit in the narrative of equal sides in a 'war'.
Does anyone think they polled 3, 7, and 10 year-olds? 72% were adults.
If a child of 12 to 15 years old come up with a gun against you as an adult, what will you do? Let him do that? Abby
They will come & eliminate Abby because she is a Kafir & Najas
As long as you are in your home or on a public road, then you might have a point .. But if you attack them in their homes then you are a criminal
When Abby Martin is stating horrific crimes against humanity committed by Israel "Emily" smirks.
I see that straight away
Because her arguments are ridiculous and ignorant, being a myopic Hamas-supporter.
That's because she was listening to complete lies
Emily is just the paid brainwashed uneducated propagandist
The same one who cant condemn a terrorist group? Yeah, she inspires respect hahahahahahaha
“It’s terrible” she says with a smile on her face
28:44
If u cannot condemn Humas you have nothing to contribute to the conversation at all.
A witness goes to court and is caught in blatant lies. Put them on a stand and believe them.
Never familiarize yourself what's a terrorist attack from any group
"If I don't steal it then someone else will"
- Fat Yakob the settler from NY
Yep ! That vid speaks for itself
If Africans are from Africa,
Asian are from Asia,
Arabs are from Arabia,
and Jews are from Judea,
doesn't that mean Jews are the indigenous people of the land, and Arabs are the colonialists of Judea?
@@OB1BNo. The people who are called "Palestinians" were historically Jewish, Christian or Samaritan but converted mostly to Islam from the Arab conquest. Unlike the fake white Jews bussed in from the collapsed Soviet union.
@OB1B Is this Fat Yacob in the comments?
Exactly, unless it doesn't fit the Pallywood narrative@@OB1B
The show should be renamed to " Do you condemn hamas?"
It should be a reality tv show. "Hi I'm Piers Morgan, and I'm going out on the street to ask random people if they condemn hummus and oct the 7th." The show is just him doing nothing but that, and everyone says yes or why are you bothering me?
It’s kinda sad too because that question is supposed to be the easiest one to answer ever. It’s designed to confirm nobody is unethical and racist against Jews. But they flip out because they can’t imagine anything that doesn’t support their narrative. There can be things against your opinion and your opinion is still legit. Any honest person would just agree not fight the literal easiest question ever. There is nothing wrong about condemning purposeless killing of women and children for literally no tactical benefit nevertheless a humane benefit. They knew more Palestinians would die because they forced Israel to respond more.
Agreed 💯
@@ObamanableSnowman Exactly
It says a lot if a person can't condemn Hamas
Why doesn't the host realize that in Hague Tribunal this kind of behavior has been firmly established and it's precisely determined who is at fault? What does he want to prove? Can one truly change the truth by attacking someone? It's ridiculous.
It is incredible to me that there are people with minds and brains that literally see one side fighting to end a race of people because they don’t want them to exist and another fighting against that opposition that is using their own people as “combatants” and sending them to their graves and somehow there is a part of this that Israel is the reason of? Genocide: “acts committed with intent to partially or wholly destroy a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group.” Piers plays ball on both sides of the fence when by saying that Israel has part of this “genocide” further rots the brain of the people that don’t consider Hamas a terrorist organization.
Smirking and lying is the way how evils speak about a genocide and humanitarian crisis.
yes
Lying about genocide while covertly supporting it is as evil as it can get.
Yeah exactly, that's Abby Martin completely. So sick she approves of Hamas genocide
Piers Morgan is still having a moral quandary of calling it a genocide , yet he asks pro Palestinian guests to call what happened on the 7th one. Double standards!
well. they are chosen ones. they think its their birth right.
"Forget Russia, the real threat to America comes from Israel and the Israel Lobby."
~Julian Assange
Forget about the Russians, The danger is Israel, so true!!!
Julian Assange = Russian Agent
Why Netanyahu Thinks America Is Stupid
"I know what America is. America is a thing you can move very easily, move it in the right direction."
~Benjamin Mileikowsky aka Benjamin Netanyahu
How? By providing them military technology?
@@Thenoobestgirl aipac
Meanwhile fast forward a few weeks later and the UN stated that about half the number of children died than what Hamas put out there.
Even then you cant call someone human animal
I love how Pierce is trying to paint himself as a centrist or be like “see both sides” when he’s just doing cover for Israel.
No he isn’t
That's just not true at all 😂. At the end he literally said things look like they are heading in a genocidal direction.
He is asking pretty good questions to Israelis side
@@olgakessel4101 yes I mean it is a hard job to speak for Israel at the moment. My feeling is that, to balance it, Piers has to strongly condemn Hamas (omitting the reasons that lead to the attack). I genuinely think that he is not blatantly on Israel’s side, otherwise he wouldn’t give pro Palestinians so much space.
@@dannyesse3043 this attack on 07 October must be condemned if we want to live in the world where the civilians people are save.
My big respect to Abby! You have the heart of a lioness. I'm from Germany, and here the media also only report lies about Gaza. The politicians are fully on the side of genocidal Israel."
We got a genocide expert here eh
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@@mitchellhedden1978 you do not have to be an expert to understand what is going on, to kill 40,000 civilians and to claim " we are the good ones " can not be right.
Because Germany has a guilt complex about the holocaust that's why they feel the duty to make someone else pay for their crimes
Germans are a disgrace to humanity . . They always stood at the wrong side of history, both in 1939 and even today in 2024 . . Germans shamelessness is beyond belief . . .
Hahaha, Piers' reaction sitting between these two having a cat fight is priceless😂 5:53
This should be interesting, watching a real journalist go on Pierce Morgan.
She answered Piers with a clear answer over and over, but Piers is so stupid he can't understand. All he cares about is blame the oppressed, not the oppressor.
Except Abby wasn't clear. Abby wants to condemn the deaths of some civilians (palestians) and not other civilians (israelites). It's hypocritical and it discredits her arguments of genocide leveled against Israel.
@@Q3020Q The original poster said, "Piers is so stupid he can't understand". Add yourself to that list because Abby was crystal clear the many times she answered Piers' condemn Hamas or else question. As Mehdi Hasan told Piers, his question is racist and therefore very stupid. Nothing excuses the genocide we are witnessing on a daily basis.
Actually she kept saying she didn't need to answer
So she answered that she will not condemn a terror group, who start killing civilians in their homes and kidnap them no matter how old they are ,tether if they’re 1 years old or 80 years old but she call a state that responds like any country would do in this situation a terrorists?!and she can't condemn Hamas for putting weapons in civilians places like shifa hospital and schools. Or when they take civilians aid and then you guys cry that the civilians in Gaza have nothing to eat while we do send everyday trucks of humatrain aid and you totally ignore what Hamas do
@@Q3020Qwell most people killed in Israel were not civilians and we don’t even know how many of the civilians were actually killed by IDF themselves. Abby said she’s against killing civilians. I’m going to give her the benefit of the doubt that she’s against Hamas killing civilians only. Piers is making the assumption that Hamas only killed civilians.
"its terrible"
*Proceeds to smile*
Tell me thats not messed up
The position of every Zionist is basically, "Israel never does anything wrong.”
I’m a proud American (Believe it or not). I will never defend the bombing of Black Wall Street. I will never the bombing of Japan. I will never defend Abu Ghraib. I will never defend Guantanamo Bay.
27:25 did the genocide supporter just deny UN (the creator of the apartheid)??????????
It's worrying that people don't condemn Hamas for starting this war and for its atrocities.. what's wrong with people
Are you familiar with the Nakba?
@@17-MASY , oh yes.. So
Every time Abby talks about how badly the Palestinians suffer, Emily's smile just gets bigger and bigger.
She is evil just like her masters
and people say women are more empathic and social
It's the smile you get when someone's lying to your face, and they know you know their lying, but they do it anyway.
@@saltking2715 _"and people say women are more empathic and social"_
You don't often get anything resembling empathy from women who support mass murder, torture and dismemberment.
@@jiminverness hasabara mode on
Emily seems to have no idea how off-putting it is for someone to discuss this brutal situation whilst smirking, grinning and looking like she is judging a child talent show. What a complete psychopath.
EXACTLY. She has crazy eyes. She would be that female nazi guard who tortured prisoners in death camps.
I think it’s the most obnoxious thing I’ve ever seen.
I was about to comment the same thing-it seems to be a common theme in the anti-Palestinian guests. Douglas Murray is another one.
She's definitely got a Demonic side to her
@@aerdnaraksa She should mate with Eylon Levy. Imagine their divinely 'immaculate' issue.
Thank you, Abbey for being on point, critical and just. Thank you for denying to answer questions devoid of context at gun point.
It is not wrong to say that there is complicity with Hamas among the people of Gaza. It was shown through the people going out to celebrate on October 7. I find it impossible to say that the people there are completely innocent.