Can You Beat Megaman Battle Network With Just The Mega Buster?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 มิ.ย. 2024
- There are plenty of challenge runs based on the classic Megaman series, but few to no challenges for Megaman Battle Network. Inspired by creators like Gamechamp3000 (@Gamechamp3000) and Jrose11 (@Jrose11), here's my first shot at trying to do something incredibly stupid and learning about just how stupid along the way.
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0:00 - Introduction
1:42 - Tutorial
5:18 - FireMan
6:49 - NumberMan
8:39 - IceMan
13:30 - ColorMan
15:53 - ElecMan
18:43 - ClockMan (Star Force Crossover)
23:08 - BombMan
28:35 - MagicMan
31:15 - LifeVirus
33:01 - Bass (Secret Boss) - เกม
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Hey everyone! The Battle Network 2 video is up, with an improved mic and no battle chips used!
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NGl it was really jaring, the difference in recordings. Likely due to the room you were recording in, or the quality of microphone you were using in the ladder half of the video. The boxyness of the recording could have been less noticeable with some EQ work.
Side note: If you're looking to hire a video editor and someone who knows how to do EQ and audio work. Hmu, I'll give ya my discord, and we'll chat about it.
What is the music used at 12:56?
I was not expecting you to go as far as fighting Bass. Especially in the 1st game I didn't even attempt that WITH chips.
After dying the first several times, I didn't even think it was possible! I also never beat him during my normal playthroughs, but I thought I owed it to the audience to find out haha.
How do you chicken out of fighting Bass? He was the coolest boss of the series. I always looked forward to fighting him and stomping him as hard and fast as possible.
@@SaltyMaverick I fought Bass in all the others, and honestly I might attempt a BN1 Bass when I play the legacy collection. It just seemed so intimidating compared to the other bass's
@@danielcorrigan8805 Oh, so just specifically the first Battle Network version. I suppose I could understand a bit. The battle system was not refined as it became in later games, so it was a fair bit harder back then. Well, you should definitely try. It's a good challenge, at the very least. You've just gotta learn how to streamline and optimize your chip folder for good combos.
@@creationcorporation6267 l1ppww
Seeing as you do still use heals and other none offensive chips, think this counts more as "No attack chips" than a "Buster only" run.
Neat video nonetheless. Well presented, wellplayed.
Thanks for the feedback! Agreed, and apologies for the confusion. For my videos moving forward, I'll be sticking to no battle chips at all, if possible!
@@creationcorporation6267 this makes me wonder about 5. with some of the doublesoul chargeshots being impossibly situational (or flat out worse than baseline), I wonder if you could change a couple of digits in the code and do runs with that on
maybe, after the collection release would be easier to plan, tho
I agree I just posted a comment about this
@@serPomiz Hell, it'd be interesting to see if Sol or Bass Cross would show up. (Maybe as a Last Resort button? Like if ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ELSE works?)
I'd love to see a "Battle Network with only your starting folder" challenge.
You're not the first person to mention this! I'd love to work on this as soon as I'm done with this series of videos
@@creationcorporation6267
Would be interesting to see relative to this. And probably even harder, because you no longer have new support chips to use.
To be honest that's just how I played 5 until I found out you *needed* to change your folder in order to use bought chips
@@ShursGarden Does it default to the xtrafolder for some reason?
NAHHH I've been doing that exact challenge (well, even worse since I decided not to get hp memories either) on 6 rn 💀💀💀
Hehe i remember playing this particular title. I spent most of my battles using the buster alone just because in the first game it is so busted after a few upgrades. The trick i kept using was going back and forth while shooting between panels to increase the rapid manually without having to be up close to enemies.
i was kind of the same, but i focused on charge speed rather than speed. i feel like, specially in 1, you should either go full speed or full charge. since one doesnt affect the other. with charged shots being my go to.
This video was really well made and very nice job on the challenge!
My first thought when reading the title was “of course you can, the buster in BN1 is jacked!” And then I remembered color man exists
awesome video, glad a challenge run of one of my favorite games popped up
hope to see more from you, your video was incredibly entertaining to watch!
The Megaman Battle Network series was one of my favorites growing up. I just finished watching your Battle Network 3 playthrough and it was great! Keep up the good work!
Literally your first video and you’re dropping a banger. Keep it up
I'm very impressed with the quality of this video given the size of your channel. BN1 is definitely one of if not the only game you could pull this off in, as later games have elements where you need to do a specific amount of damage to bring their shields down (Megalian viruses) or destroy the enemies at once (The security monoliths in BN2 and 3 come to mind)
Thanks for the feedback - I've just been trying to emulate the effort and quality that my own favorite TH-camrs put in, so I really appreciate it! You're right, the later games will have their own challenges and I hope to bring them to you sooner rather than later
You inspired me to try this challenge for myself, which was really fun, but the difficulty and tediousness of some portions also gives me a newfound appreciation for the effort you put into these videos lol
I love challenge videos a ton and the Mega Man series is perfect for them. This video is very well written and edited and if you decide to make more of these I'd gladly watch them.
Thanks for the feedback, I'm glad you liked it! I'll be working on the rest of the games, and will do my best to make it more challenging and interesting moving forward!
This is some dark-souls-with-DK-bongos level stuff. Great video! Looking forward to the next one.
Battle Network is my favorite mega Man series and I've been screaming for years about there being a collection so I'm finally happy that it's on its way. And you're completely crazy for playing the game with only the buster LOL
That was super hype. I don't think anybody else is doing MMBN challenge runs so I respect you for going for it. Especially now that the internet is buzzing with the advent of MegaMan MMBN legacy collection. I enjoy how informative you were and explained your strategies and challenges of said run.
I'd love to see more mmbn challenges. I'd like to see your ideas if discussing game design bear fruit too. You don't want to become "that guy." TH-camrs who build an audience being the pokemon guy or challenge guy or anime guy will get tired of it. Monotony isn't fun. So I'd definitely recommend doing a few types of videos so you never grow tired of it.
For a first video you put in some good work. Actual transitions that aren't crazy and no abrupt cuts. Sped up footage to respect the viewers time. Very good. Also jumping right into it is a great idea. People have the attention span of gophers. An intro longer than 3 seconds loses people. Insane ik. Thanks TikTok! Starting from round zero is a good decision. The thorough explanations are well done too. I had to say it a second time.
Now, if I don't offer some criticisms you're not going to grow more powerful and reach your ultimate form. Tbh with only 1 video I can't really say much. I have to see more to see what your flow is. Only thing I can say is when you can afford it get a better mic. Your voice sounds muffled making it seem more monotone than it actually is. Are you doing any sound balancing or audio editing? Maybe that'll be enough?
I'm no wiz and I'm one voice in 123. I see potential in you. It'll be a hard road. Understand that everyone who made it big got lucky. One video went viral or they came up with a unique and stand alone idea. They posted the right thing at the right time. Some never get a big boost and grow slowly. That's TH-cam. Asking advice from popular TH-camrs is a good idea if you get the chance.
Most importantly..... you only lose when you give up, fail to learn from mistakes, and don't continually work to improve. Rock on soldier. Rock on.
Thank you so much for the feedback and support. It's really encouraging, and the constructive criticism is absolutely necessary to grow! I've upgraded my mic setup and now it's time to see if I can figure out audio editing, haha. I'm way more hyped because the response from this video has been way beyond what I expected, so BN2 will be out sooner rather than later!
I love this video, I’m looking forward to the next “Buster Only”/“No Damage Chip” challenges. Maybe adding some unique challenges like “No Soul Unison” or even “Only Null chip”. No pressure of course
Love this run, would like to see more like this.
This is something I've been thinking about myself for a long while now and look forward to more.
Battle Network 5 is probably gonna be the biggest challenge in my opinion due to the mandatory Liberation Missions. Probably not impossible but certainly a time killer.
It'll be a while before I get to 5, but I'm looking forward to being creative! Might have to adjust the rules a bit depending on the game!
@@creationcorporation6267 even with the slow gauge battle chip
Nice video, man! It's cool to see someone use the Buster all the way to the end!
Loving these battle network challenge videos. I see you did two more, I hope you continue to do new other type of challenges. Very entertaining
Really appreciate the support! I'll continue to try some different games along the way, but it looks like Battle Network will be the main focus for the foreseeable future!
I've always wanted to play this version of the game! Nice vid!
Thank you! I do recommend a playthrough, although it isn't different at all from BN1. I was so excited when it was first announced since I thought it meant a fully original new Battle Network!
I am most thankful and impressed by such a video
Well THIS looks to be a promising channel. You, sir, have excellent taste.❤
Thank you kindly!
Amazing challenge run
Hey kid I love what you do. Keep it up I'll be looking forward for your next vids
This was sick!!!! Voting for more!
Slight correction for the final battle that is not that significant, MegaMan gets Super Armor and max buster stats (+6 to Attack (making it 48 charge level 1 and 96 charge level 2))
As someone who beat all the BN’s with only the mega buster,I can in fact confirm that it is possible to beat BN with only a mega buster.
How do you knock out copy Bass's aura in BN3?
@@wchill1337 At that point you cannot systematically win with just a mega buster so a northwind is needed
@@wchill1337 And yes at that point,that’s the run’s exception
@@kaizoku8087 ... that means you can't beat the game with only the megabuster
What a awesome video. 10/10
I literally just started playing this game again after 10+ years. I noticed how the game is pretty much about waiting till you can use your powerful chips and then I thought about there being at least one video on TH-cam about using only the Buster, and sure enough this video appeared in my feed.
Great video! I wasn't expecting you to get all the way to Bass, tbh. I've only played 5 and 6 through, so the Bass I know has a life aura that needs 200 damage to destroy and I was like "yeah, your buster is dead against that".
Hey man, I haven't watched the video yet, but I saw you had 999 subs & wanted to be your 1000th. MMBN is one of my favorite series & I'm looking forward to this & the rest of the series, good luck in 3 hope you allow style changes cause I think Alpha would be impossible otherwise. Hope you continue to grow & prosper!
Just finished, great video, it's cool to see how BN1's buster mechanics really carried you through this, hopefully you can do the others.
Thank you so much! I honestly can't believe the reception, and I hope that the video and content is worth the subscription!
If you are closer to the enemy, you'll fire your buster faster than being in the far back, especially if they are in the squares closest to yours. It's a nice risk, reward mechanic.
I definitely used this in the game, but didn't know how to explain it - thanks for the helpful details!
This was awesome
great job!! i have issues even with the chips, can't even imagine the difficulty here :)
This is real good stuff! Informative, clearly spoken, decently detailed.
Great for an audience with only a passing knowledge of the game.
I like seeing some of the less-utilized chips, since most people (Myself included) mostly seem to just focus on good attack chips and occasional combos.
I dunno if it's just me, but the boss music gets a little loud sometimes. Not bad enough that I can't still fully understand you or anything, but it can be a touch jarring when the music spikes up.
Hoping to see more videos like this in the future!
Thanks for the feedback!
Totally agree on the underused chips, as there were several ones that I never even thought of because I've never really played Battle Network defensively. Moving forward, however, most of the challenges that it seems like people want to see are without any battlechips at all.
Agreed on the audio challenges - I'm still getting the hang of audio editing so hopefully the next video will be much better in terms of volume consistency!
Just finished the video, I hope to see more of these for the rest of the games
After getting to the endgame, on the battle network collection, I've gained a new appreciation for your determination and an understanding of just how hard this game is.
Also, I'd give so much to have that map in the legacy collection version.
Very cool video! I actually thought the buff at the final area just increased your stats to the max. I actually thought this run was impossible because of the final boss' barrier, but I forgot it drops when it attacks! All in all a very informative and cool video, good job!
Thanks for the feedback! He doesn't actually drop his barrier in some future games, so hopefully I'll have some more interesting fights in the future
Beat? Absolutely.
Complete? Fuck no.
Me? New sub.
Hotel? Trivago.
dude let's go, look at my baby boy, I'm so proud
Nice Video ^^
Always nice to see a fellow Commander Beef enjoyer. I always thought it was a bit odd and disappointing how the games did so little with him, Sal, Miyu, and also Yuri, when the anime made them major characters.
I agree! I was really disappointed that SharkMan wasn't brought back for BN5 - it made so much sense to bring those characters back vs some of the more ridiculous plotlines that they did have (like MagnetMan)
I love how there is only one other vid on TH-cam that does buster vs bosses only except for Bass. Proves how much of a true end games boss he is in the series.
This is about to be crazy 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 bro gl. I need this game 😮.
Good thing this showed up on my feed
Great Video and I find it kinda interesting. I guess I'll try it myself with the upcomming legacy collection
with the exception of Battle Network 1. As you mentioned in your video right because of the fleeing mechanic.
I will definetly follow this series and take a look in your other videos, but before that I think you earned a subscribe absolutely.
Which makes me kinda curious how you will take on Battle Network 4 if you go there for all secret bosses in their hardest form which have some requirements, but I don't know if you have played the games before so I don't write them to not spoiler you if you haven't until now.
And which is even more curious is Battle Network 5 where I really don't now if buster only is possible in that games because of a mechanic.
But I will wait and see the answers in your videos. Until then I start myself.
I wish you much fun with the other battle network games.
And if you someday go into Megaman Star Force I would recommend you for the first game to play the dx patch. It's an overall better game experience then on the the three versions of that game
I enjoyed this video a lot
I'm honestly a bit surprised that BN Megaman's damage output outweighed SF Megaman's on-demand shield
That's a fair point! Because I used recovery and support chips, defense was less of a concern. The philosophy was "the best defense is a good offense", since there would be fewer opportunities to hit me if I got rid of them faster. In a "no battle chip" run (which may be on the horizon!), I would likely depend on that shield a lot more, especially during a boss fight like the Bass fight.
Great video, i love the bn series and starforce so its nice to see new quality content for the series. I would suggest a slight tweak to the title to say no attacking chips though just to save yourself the headache of nitpicky commenters.
"This is probably not the MegaMan you played on the GameBoy Advance"
Yeah, because I was born just two years before the GBAs were discontinued and I've only ever seen one in person twice in my entire life.
Cool to see you include optional fights. It's actually possible to beat at least up to the final boss of each game without ever using a chip, even support ones, with 6 being the only exception. BN6 has a door in the very first area that requires a Reflector 1 chip, which can't be obtained without using a chip because we can't get the required rank.
Oof - good to know! I've just uploaded BN3, so I'll be making my way to 6 soon and will do my best to see if there's another way, but from what I've read online, it seems like you're right
Although the title is a little bit misleading as it's a "no battle chips" run, it was interesting that you took the idea up to Bass battle. I'm down for a full series if you would ✌🏼
I'm actively working on the rest of the games! Thanks for the feedback - I'll make sure that future videos have more clarity in the title and for the rules!
And I here I am. Because of my solo run pokemon interests. You're the first one to do battle network and that was my shit
I love the solo Pokemon runs, and I was really hoping to replicate the same kind of success and interest with the BN community!
@@creationcorporation6267 I'd do it. You may have a monopoly on the content👀 (delete this comment if you feel I'm right so no one jumps on it 😎)
Buster only challenges on battle network eh? This'll be fun, I'm happy it's possible to attempt considering the genre change. Personally use buster a lot myself when playing these anyway lol
I'm confident the answer is yes because of how the combat it.
But it'll also be the most painful and tedious buster-only challenge I can imagine
The end battle credit music is my ringtone!
Actually, funny thing about Shark Man. There is an actual Shark Man robot master. He's in Mega Man 3 for the MS Dos.
Though he wasn't designed by any of the classic Mega Man staff, so there is that.
12 year old me: Wait you're not supposed to use only the Buster?
Huh. Yknow, it's surprisingly easy to forget how Higsby were introduced to the series after every game treated him like a close ally. You'd think that taking an entire school hostage would have some ramifications for his life. At least he assisted in saving the world several times over with his chip shop and trading machines, but still.
A full challenge series would be very cool, but I'm afraid BN5 is simply not possible. Why? Liberation missions.
Have you tried it? I haven't either, but I feel like while it'll be an uphill battle to clear them under par, it'll still be possible to finish them at the very least. The worst wrinkle I can think of is a few of the team navis having melee range charge shots.
I'll be working on a full challenge series! In the liberation missions, it obviously won't be the "mega buster", but I will be honest to the spirit of the challenge and not use any battlechips.
If you are having trouble with some of the optional bosses, here's some golden advice. Always eat your calcium.😉
Okay, Masa-san 🙄 (lol)
MMBN is one of the greatest game series to ever be released. I wish I could get excited as I used to when I heard a new MMBN was coming out. Games just aren't the same anymore. At least I will be able to re live all of the MMBN titles this year when they release the full series on the switch.
I was so extremely hyped when I heard the Battle Network collection was coming out. On top of that, it's the day before my birthday. So I was like "NO WAY! That's one hell of a birthday gift!"
Man, I wish your birthday was earlier so we could get the game sooner 😄
The Gameboy game was actually my first MegaMan game ever, I kinda remember also playing a Zero game which was also fun but I mostly remember this and the cool animation of entering the virtual world.
Agreed! Zero was one of my favorite GBA games but it was so hard when I was a kid, Battle Network was just so much more accessible
Im so happy they're releasing the legacy battlenetwork games in a couple months!!!
Shame it didn't include the StarForce version and network transmission as well.
Cool video, the only suggestion i can make for future videos is to maybe work on the voiceover audio a bit because i swear it's louder on one side than the other
"Sharkman isn't from the classic series" *Laughs in Megaman DOS*
A: Operate Shooting Star is actually significantly different from BN1 in a whole number of ways, from damage to enemy difficulty to underlying mechanics of certain things like Level, to having a whole additional chapter
B: BN1 is the easiest game in the series to do Buster Only, due to how absurdly deadly it gets
Absolutely! I didn't want to go into the details given that the focus of the video was really the challenge, but you're right that I probably should've spent more time on the differences
@@creationcorporation6267 It sounds like you're fairly new to challenge videos in general, as a rule, your viewers usually will be interested in how your choice of version has impact on the trials, because even nominally similar games(Kirby Superstar vs Ultra, BN1 vs EXE OSS) will still change how the challenge is approached in meaningful ways, like YOU HAD A FUCKING ESCAPE BUTTON MY DUDE!!, BN1 has no Escape button, which makes Buster Only much more tense since you're not allowed to use the single escape option in the game, especially in Power Plant, and most of the bosses starting from Woodman deal around a third less damage because Armor doesn't exist, version choice should also be obvious in the video name/thumbnail
Few points of note since you were playing Operation Shooting Star:
Star Force Mega Man actually has a shield to block attacks built in. There are several points where that could've been used and be useful for this run (unless it was stated that the built in shield is banned)
Star Force's Buster may not have the Power behind it like the BN Buster, but it trades that for Auto Charge, and insane Radip Fire. At 5 Power, 5 Rapid, Star Force's Buster just erases most HP Bars. His low power doesn't help with Life Virus or Bass, but he is a large asset if used with his stats in mind.
Much appreciated on the feedback! You're absolutely right that there's a lot of utility with SF Mega that I didn't maximize. With my use of support chips, his shield wasn't as useful but absolutely would be in a no chip run. I think that in the future, I would definitely revisit/redo this run without any chips, which would likely mean using SF Mega quite a bit more!
you madman. the first few bosses probably took forever before you could buy the power ups
this was a realy nice video : D so youre getting a subscriber tho i cant imagine you beating 5 due to the liberation missions 3 turn limit pretty sure you cant hit the enemy enough times in such a short time
Really appreciate it! I'm actually really looking forward to seeing what we can do when the time comes - I'm planning on playing Double Team, so I'll get very familiar with everyone's charge shots haha. Hopefully we can find some creative ways to deal with the time limits!
Im playing 5 myself right now. I doubt ill find anything but ill try to find something for at least the first liberation mission. Hope 6ou have a nice day :)
I was planning to do something like this but I didn't have a pc to get a clean recording of it with but anyway mmbn3 is possible but bass.exe and drillman.exe is a real problem so equip a breaker block or shot and practice split second dodges . But that was my experience can't wait to see more
Really appreciate the feedback and suggestions!
I love using the buster. Sucks the first few games didn't have the buster up chip
MMBN3 Kingman is gonna be very fun buster only.
A war god.
I might check out the first bn game after watching this.
God your gonna have a field day in BN games going forward where the charge shot multiplier is only ×10 and the max power is 5. Even worse for BN 3 and beyond when you can't buy Power-ups and have to use the Navi Cust. Until then heres a like
Bro this is great. When's number 3 haha.
Thank you! Just put it up - check it out if you haven't already!
I mean you can if you hate yourself, it’s really tedious with that much HP, and you won’t get upgrades quite as fast and you’ll still need to dish out enough damage to get behind auras and such
I actually had to do this challenge.
My Triggers were broken on my Nintendo so I could only choose chips at my first time and had to beat the enemy with my buster
It was not really a fun experience but after 2-4 times I figured enough out to beat every enemy with just a buster
I'm going completely off memory from way back when battle network first released here. But I wouldn't be surprised if and think the answer is yes you could beat it with just the buster. From what I recall maxed out buster does like 80 on charge, the buster has never done so much damage since. The only thing that should cause problems is the 100 hp auras shields like what bass has.
Fun video lad, may want to work on your recording equipment.
Much appreciated! It's the first thing I'll be improving moving forward!
It's Technically possible to get all the chips with just the buster IF you use the chip trader, so yeah, Reaching Bass is not a bad stretch
Thanks for letting me know - I didn't think about that!
I got a Bass chip form the trader!
I think using cheats to improve life quality (aka avoid painfull grinding) is perfectly fine, specially for videos and stuff, because if you think about it, sooner or later you are bound to get everything you have to, so you might as well use them and keep the schedule (and your sanity).
Wow some good on TH-cam for ones
If capcom put this as a trophy in the collection I'm gonna hate you
"long time rival", megaman fights bass in 2 games
It's a long time in terms of years 😅
Thanks for inspiring me to play this myself, but uh… did you get any Invis1 chips? I’m doing a run on the GBA version, and that chip makes things SOOOOO much easier, with no damage to any enemies
I did get some, but I didn't really feel the need to use them until Bass, at which point I did use them and similar chips!
i always thought speed was pretty useless, so when i played i would usually get power and charge. i always felt like faster charge will out dps faster speed. specially with a maxed attack, it also allow for a more hit and run. which i feel is more important in these games.
Heya! If you're planning on doing more Battle Network content in the future, I just have to let you know that "WWW" is pronounced as "World Three" as per the original intention. It's in the anime too btw hehe
Much appreciated - I wasn't sure if that was an anime-only translation, but I'll say that moving forward!
@@creationcorporation6267 either is fair game imo. Don't stress too much about the details, just have fun with it :)
@@creationcorporation6267 It's mentioned in the manual of the first Battle Network. To this day I still don't understand at all how the Japanese writers concluded that "WWW" was a valid abbreviation, or why the English localizers decided to stick with it instead of either writing out "World Three" or changing it to "Wx3" or "W3" or something.
Please do the rest of the games!
Great vid with one complaint: Y'never did complete Sharkey (or Wood?), and you also missed Pharaoh and Shadowmans.
I actually did fight all of them except Pharoahman, but the video felt like it was getting too long as it was so I forgot to include them! I'll make sure that all the optional bosses are in the next video, but I appreciate you pointing that out!
36:00 Its funny of you to ask if you are cheesing by spamming defensive chips against bass. You forgot to use the biggest anti-bass cheese available in the game: The pause button.
You can, with certain reliance, dodge all of Bass attacks by spamming pause button, checking where to move megaman, unpause, and keep repeating ad infinitun.
I'm going to be redoing this run without any battle chips, so I may be taking advantage of that pause button spam depending on how badly it goes 😅
Random aside: Personally I would have waited longer to upgrade Speed the first time. While slightly awkward there are ways to slightly mitigate buster speed in certain situations.
I'm the type that always get X-Guts in BN2 and 3 as my first style.
Makes sense! It was a bit of a gut feeling since I'd upgraded the other categories already, but agreed that it's probably the least useful
I hope mega man battle network gets more popular now that the switch port is coming out
I need the source for the MMBN1 boss theme remix that plays in the gutsman fight
Great video hope you keep posting, though I can't help but wonder why you didn't use invis, but maybe you just don't show it
Thanks! I did use Invis sparingly, but really didn't need it until the Bass fight. However, by that point, Dropdown and Pop Up were more useful because they didn't have a time limit like Invis.
You could save before you open the blue and green things and reload until it gives you money to were you won't have to grind monsters so much
I didn't know that before, but will absolutely be doing that before long grinds moving forward 😅