A review of Lionel's 3-Rail O-Scale New York Central Railroad Badwin RF-16 Sharknose Diesels. Enjoy! More videos on my youtube channel or at www.ericstrains.com
I HAVE to listen to the crew talk sounds!? That does it! First i have to BUY the trains, NOW I have to LISTEN to them, too?? What's next, I have to ENJOY them?? XD
Baldwin did a excellent job with this design. Glad they came to the Michigan Northern Railroad. Lionel brought all this RR history together, The Sharknose is very classic. As always a well done review. Thank-you, for sharing your philosophy on life and the hobby. Looks & sounds great on the layout. Like the Michigan Central boxcar. • Cheers from Michigan.
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You're right Eric! To me this hobby should be a source of fun, enjoyment, creativity, and to degree, relieve stress. Great video and diesels. Gotta give those kadee couplers a shot. Thanks for sharing!
AWESOME review Eric!!!!!!!! Nice set! And I can't agree more with you when it comes to model train problems, I very much enjoy working on my engines, rolling stock, track and accessories, so if I have a problem it is typically a lot of fun fixing the problem! Anyways, thanks for the video bud and have a great weekend!
As usual, enjoyed your thorough review of the Sharknose. For the past few years I've searched high and low to find a D&H RF-16 AA set (6-38558), but to no avail. If you or anyone else knows where I can find one please let me know. Thanks and keep those reviews coming - I think they're great!
Eric Nice review. I like the KaDee coupler mod you did also. The sharknose units look perfect on your layout. As far a crew talk - I'm in your corner I like them, a littler cheeszy sometimes, but makes a chuckle to friends who thought that the only sounds were the horn and bell. Keep up the good review.
@ERIC'S TRAINS - ONCE AGAIN, great and thorough REVIEW! You are the BEST at this. Do you also do COMPARISONS between similar model trains between LIONEL & MTH? Compare the: MTH Union Pacific BIG BOY vs LIONEL VISION-LINE Union Pacific Big Boy in a future review just to do a "SIDE-BY-SIDE compare and contrast," just a suggestion.
I find those who can afford to make " O " guage model trains a reality encouraging, and I see such people as a vast improvement over the basement veggies who sit mesmerized in front of electronic video games.
When modern diesels start they sound like those wind up car toys When a baldwin starts up it literally sounds like it's gonna break in 5 seconds And we don't speak of alco
Eric, ericstrains, once you did the switch to the Kadee couplers, how much did it reduce the turning radius? Maybe O-42/54 or more like O-72? I have ordered an "AA" set and I think your coupler idea is great. I have been doing some research myself to try and find out what the turning radius might be but I have not had much luck or just have found the right conversation on a forum....any thoughts? Thanks
I have the B&O version, which I use for pulling 18 scale B&O coal hoppers on O-72 track. Your Kadee coupler idea really interests me, and I will definitely be looking into that. Is there a way to replace the front couple with a Kadee that will still work from the Legacy remote?
There was also an export model, I saw video of one running somewhere in South America recently. But indeed the last two in the states are still thought to be in storage in unknown condition.
Hey Eric. I'm a little late to the discussion but I was looking to switch out the couplers on my engines and wondered if you have the Kabee part number for the couplers you used. Thank you for all of your great videos.
I got a set of those from Williams they were $200 and they came with a free B-unit dummy. Not as detailed and no bulshit sound but it's good enough for me
Hi Eric I purchased the AA NYC set from trainworld but no one had the powered B unit except Lionel and they were cheaper than I thought, they truly are a lovely brilliant set. Thanks for the review anyway, I live in the UK and Lionel have brilliant crew talk sounds. I believe MTH do a set???? but will this run on legacy?? Thanks for a great source of tips etc. Ernie Essex UK
I realize this is a older video, I hope I’ll get a responce. When you install the AA to the legacy remote, do you address each A unit the same number or would you address them separately and create a lash up or train in the remote. I hope this all makes sense
Hi Eric I have what may seem a stupid question, but as I have the Sharknose by Lionel A & powered B units how do I set up as a lash up? Does the powered A unit become the lead unit then the Non powered A unit and then the B unit or which way round should these last 2 units go please? as I can set up a lash up no problem but it is getting the lighting correct for direction that I am struggling with. I am really pleased with these units, but if I was to make a small criticism is that I personally think Lionel should have incorporated: Diesel sounds for the powered B and some crew dialogue between the non powered A and the Powered A. Great Vids by the way. I have ordered the Legacy Mohawk and a 4-6-0 ten wheeler should be here in May 2015. Kindest Regards Ernie Essex UK
***** Not sure, But I do know their owner is EXTREMLY cautious of railfans but from what Ive heard hes a nice guy once you convince him you don't want to strip the engines of their builder's plates
intermodalman123 Ah the builder's plates. The reason they went inside in the first place. I would love to see the units go somewhere were they would be run though. They are beautiful, and no one seems to know of them. The warehouse is somewhere on Escanaba and Lake Superior Railroad trackage, but I couldn't tell you where. One needs a new traction motor, the other needs a prime mover rebuild. If I find the photos ill link em.
I believe bachmann makes some very affordable models but they have the same problem that the lionel ones have but that could be fixed by a drawbar i think that Bachmann has the idea on the table of retooling them someday to address the problem. the only other places to buy HO RF-16s are in brass or from Broadway limited and that still is more expensive than the bachmann units.
GREAT VIDEO!!!!!$!$!$!!!! IS THERE ANY ENGINES THAT YOU "DON'T" HAVE THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TOO MAKE A "GREAT" VIDEO OF$!?$!?$!?$!? AWSOME!!!! KEEP UP THE THE GREAT VIDEOS!!!! I HAD MY LIONEL LAYOUT IN THE 1970'S W/USED 1950/160'S TRAINS!!!! MY FAVE WAS #2323 A-B-A SANTA-FE -&-#2055 HUDSON REPAINTED TOO A.T.&S. LOGO'S (ENGINE BLACK)!!!! YAAAAZWHOOOOOOooooo!!! HAD 25 SWITCHES!!!
Eric, I have a question. Does the following locomotive have any motor drive, or is it a "dummy" one that must be towed by the lead locomotive? I'm trying to figure out if the following locomotive does anything. Thanks for your great video!
Hey Eric if you remember my comment from awhile ago I said I have a 1950's lionel train. My aunt just confirmed to me 2 days ago she said my uncle got it in 1954. when i get an HD camera for christmas I'll make a video of it so you can see it and judge it's value. It's also a New york central but not like the one in this video.
Baldwin's were known for lugging power and unfortunately railroad crews would lug them until the crankcase would explode. They're switchers and their road switchers outlasted the shark nose road diesels by decades.
Eric, I’m hoping to get the B&O version of these engines for Christmas this year, and I want to get the A-A set and both the powered and non-powered B units to have an A-B-B-A RF-16 Sharknose diesel consist. The problem is that I haven’t had any luck with finding dealers in my home state of North Carolina that have these available. On the websites for most of the dealers I could find that had them on their list, I found that they were sold out, meaning there were none left in stock. I need some help finding a dealer that has the A-A set and the powered and non-powered B units in the B&O livery for the RF-16 Sharknose diesels in stock at prices that I can afford. I decided the best thing to do was ask someone for help, and you were the only person I could think of. Do you think you can help me find a dealer that has the A-A set and the powered and non-powered B units in the B&O livery for these engines? I also looked on the website for your favorite train store, Legacy Station, but I could only find one of the items for the RF-16 Sharknose diesels. Could you help me, please?
It’s a shame that the only two survivors are sitting in a shed on the Escanaba and Lake Superior. I understand the owner wants to keep them safe from enthusiasts who want “souvenirs”, but if they don’t do something soon, it won’t be long before the Sharks meet the cutter’s torch.
The reason they are locked in a warehouse if because railfans stole builders plates and cut electrical equipment resulting in very expensive repairs. It got to be so bad the railroad would put up signs saying railfans neither wanted nor tolerated. Like they say a few bad apples spoil the bunch
That's pretty amazing that you can make lemons out of lemonade
"making lemons out of lemonade".....I lol.....
I HAVE to listen to the crew talk sounds!? That does it! First i have to BUY the trains, NOW I have to LISTEN to them, too?? What's next, I have to ENJOY them??
XD
Baldwin did a excellent job with this design. Glad they came to the Michigan Northern Railroad. Lionel brought all this RR history together, The Sharknose is very classic. As always a well done review. Thank-you, for sharing your philosophy on life and the hobby. Looks & sounds great on the layout. Like the Michigan Central boxcar.
• Cheers from Michigan.
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I was stupid lost the account password. I love any help you can give me!
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@Arjun Briggs thanks so much for your reply. I found the site on google and I'm waiting for the hacking stuff now.
Seems to take a while so I will get back to you later with my results.
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One of these actually appeared on here during a move to a new location as of a day ago, so they are still around.
Very well said, the hobby is supposed to be fun. When I'm dealing with everyday life, my layout is my escape! Awesome review!
You can make lemons out of lemonade?
[quiet whispering voice] tell me how.
I love those prime mover sounds on these, they sound interesting and unique.
You're right Eric! To me this hobby should be a source of fun, enjoyment, creativity, and to degree, relieve stress. Great video and diesels. Gotta give those kadee couplers a shot. Thanks for sharing!
Great Review, Eric. I believe that Lionel also now offers these sharks in the D&H livery.
Happy to know after all these years that rumor of the D&H RF-16's was true!
Very nice Eric. That sound is truly a Baldwin sound. Fantastic!
Nice review, Eric. Very unique engines. Thanks for sharing
AWESOME review Eric!!!!!!!! Nice set! And I can't agree more with you when it comes to model train problems, I very much enjoy working on my engines, rolling stock, track and accessories, so if I have a problem it is typically a lot of fun fixing the problem! Anyways, thanks for the video bud and have a great weekend!
Great review and LOVED the comment about the crew talk! That was good! LOL!!!
Thank you Eric always Love your Videos..........Merry Christmas to you and your Family.
Great review Eric, those are some nice locomotives. Merry Christmas!
As usual, enjoyed your thorough review of the Sharknose. For the past few years I've searched high and low to find a D&H RF-16 AA set (6-38558), but to no avail. If you or anyone else knows where I can find one please let me know. Thanks and keep those reviews coming - I think they're great!
Great model...I have a ho scale f16
I have always enjoyed watching your reviews even though i model a different scale.
Great video! Awesome engines!
Awesome, Review, Idefineately need a set of these!
Great vid eric as usual.
Thanks Eric, I saw this review, and had to buy this engine and coach set.
Eric Nice review. I like the KaDee coupler mod you did also. The sharknose units look perfect on your layout. As far a crew talk - I'm in your corner I like them, a littler cheeszy sometimes, but makes a chuckle to friends who thought that the only sounds were the horn and bell. Keep up the good review.
Looks and sounds great Eric and i always thought those engines were ugly. Now i have second thoughts getting a B&O set.
@ERIC'S TRAINS - ONCE AGAIN, great and thorough REVIEW! You are the BEST at this. Do you also do COMPARISONS between similar model trains between LIONEL & MTH?
Compare the: MTH Union Pacific BIG BOY vs LIONEL VISION-LINE Union Pacific Big Boy
in a future review just to do a "SIDE-BY-SIDE compare and contrast," just a suggestion.
I love the Shark-Nose Diesels so much. Especially the Delaware Paint Scheme.
Great job on the Kadee conversion. Much better gap.
Great review!
If I ever got an A-B-B-A set I would definitely name it "Dancing Queen"
I find those who can afford to make " O " guage model trains a reality encouraging, and I see such people as a vast improvement over the basement veggies who sit mesmerized in front of electronic video games.
I love these diesels!
PRETTY SET
If there is a pennsy version that would be great.
I LOVE the design of the NYC RF-16
I might actually buy one for my o scale model railroad layout!
Nice units. That's going to be a nice set of 4 when you get the B units.
Scott
I love your trains erick and I love your ivice
Awesome!!
Awesome !
When modern diesels start they sound like those wind up car toys
When a baldwin starts up it literally sounds like it's gonna break in 5 seconds
And we don't speak of alco
very very interesting trains wish i was able to have them
Eric, ericstrains, once you did the switch to the Kadee couplers, how much did it reduce the turning radius? Maybe O-42/54 or more like O-72? I have ordered an "AA" set and I think your coupler idea is great. I have been doing some research myself to try and find out what the turning radius might be but I have not had much luck or just have found the right conversation on a forum....any thoughts? Thanks
I have the B&O version, which I use for pulling 18 scale B&O coal hoppers on O-72 track. Your Kadee coupler idea really interests me, and I will definitely be looking into that. Is there a way to replace the front couple with a Kadee that will still work from the Legacy remote?
I am 12 and I have a decent layout..... finally an o36 compatible diesel!
Lionel makes lots of o36 diesels it's just that the scale ones like this are made for wider curves. I recommend a lionchief plus
There was also an export model, I saw video of one running somewhere in South America recently. But indeed the last two in the states are still thought to be in storage in unknown condition.
they are in either wells or escanaba michigan they are owned by the E&LS rr
So let me get this straight. They have tiny American flags you can put on the train? I’m sold!
Just like Tycho who painted sharknose locomotives in other road games was because even if it was on prototypical it would sell
Hey Eric. I'm a little late to the discussion but I was looking to switch out the couplers on my engines and wondered if you have the Kabee part number for the couplers you used. Thank you for all of your great videos.
I got a set of those from Williams they were $200 and they came with a free B-unit dummy. Not as detailed and no bulshit sound but it's good enough for me
ugh bills I here you eric. Me and my brother almost didn't get presents because of bills
Hi Eric
I purchased the AA NYC set from trainworld but no one had the powered B unit except Lionel and they were cheaper than I thought, they truly are a lovely brilliant set. Thanks for the review anyway, I live in the UK and Lionel have brilliant crew talk sounds. I believe MTH do a set???? but will this run on legacy??
Thanks for a great source of tips etc.
Ernie
Essex UK
Cool engine
I realize this is a older video, I hope I’ll get a responce. When you install the AA to the legacy remote, do you address each A unit the same number or would you address them separately and create a lash up or train in the remote. I hope this all makes sense
Hi Eric
I have what may seem a stupid question, but as I have the Sharknose by Lionel A & powered B units how do I set up as a lash up? Does the powered A unit become the lead unit then the Non powered A unit and then the B unit or which way round should these last 2 units go please? as I can set up a lash up no problem but it is getting the lighting correct for direction that I am struggling with. I am really pleased with these units, but if I was to make a small criticism is that I personally think Lionel should have incorporated: Diesel sounds for the powered B and some crew dialogue between the non powered A and the Powered A.
Great Vids by the way.
I have ordered the Legacy Mohawk and a 4-6-0 ten wheeler should be here in May 2015.
Kindest Regards
Ernie
Essex UK
Can you do a tutorial on how to put on kadee couplers?
I've seen pictures taken of the shark noses in the warehouse in Michigan
.
So have I, there are pics somewhere on flickr
*****
Not sure, But I do know their owner is EXTREMLY cautious of railfans but from what Ive heard hes a nice guy once you convince him you don't want to strip the engines of their builder's plates
Ill see if I can find the links to the photos later
intermodalman123 Ah the builder's plates. The reason they went inside in the first place. I would love to see the units go somewhere were they would be run though. They are beautiful, and no one seems to know of them. The warehouse is somewhere on Escanaba and Lake Superior Railroad trackage, but I couldn't tell you where. One needs a new traction motor, the other needs a prime mover rebuild. If I find the photos ill link em.
Wait, D&GRW challenger??? Full size?
Does the southern pacific one have the traditional red and gray or is it a daylight?
I believe bachmann makes some very affordable models but they have the same problem that the lionel ones have but that could be fixed by a drawbar i think that Bachmann has the idea on the table of retooling them someday to address the problem. the only other places to buy HO RF-16s are in brass or from Broadway limited and that still is more expensive than the bachmann units.
I know grandfather was Superintendent of Motive power SP until 1962 did not have any.
GREAT VIDEO!!!!!$!$!$!!!! IS THERE ANY ENGINES THAT YOU "DON'T" HAVE THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TOO MAKE A "GREAT" VIDEO OF$!?$!?$!?$!? AWSOME!!!! KEEP UP THE THE GREAT VIDEOS!!!! I HAD MY LIONEL LAYOUT IN THE 1970'S W/USED 1950/160'S TRAINS!!!! MY FAVE WAS #2323 A-B-A SANTA-FE -&-#2055 HUDSON REPAINTED TOO A.T.&S. LOGO'S (ENGINE BLACK)!!!! YAAAAZWHOOOOOOooooo!!! HAD 25 SWITCHES!!!
Did they make all this fantastic models even in G scale or exists only in O scale?
✯✯✯ Ale LGB ✯✯✯ Someone at my train club had some shark nose engines like in the video but in a santa fe red and silver warbonnet scheme.
The 20th Century Limited Funny seeing you here
yes, they live.
love to rescue the last 2 Sharks someday
I have a couple of these in HO by Tyco hehe
On the 2014 catalog it shows them with double exhaust but they only have a single exhaust
THOSE WERE THE DAYS!!!!$!$!$ DJB@NEPA...DJB43.....U.S.A....!!!!
Eric, I have a question. Does the following locomotive have any motor drive, or is it a "dummy" one that must be towed by the lead locomotive? I'm trying to figure out if the following locomotive does anything. Thanks for your great video!
The rear unit is a non-powered dummy unit, but it does have lighting and a smoke unit.
Hey Eric if you remember my comment from awhile ago I said I have a 1950's lionel train. My aunt just confirmed to me 2 days ago she said my uncle got it in 1954. when i get an HD camera for christmas I'll make a video of it so you can see it and judge it's value. It's also a New york central but not like the one in this video.
i love your icon and name!
erik karl thanks lol
you're welcome.
The Shark Deiesel!
the SP version could be a set of units never delivered like the Centipedes for the UP
superbe materiel
Baldwin's were known for lugging power and unfortunately railroad crews would lug them until the crankcase would explode. They're switchers and their road switchers outlasted the shark nose road diesels by decades.
two of these still exist sitting in a warehouse with a PRR doodle bug
Eric, I’m hoping to get the B&O version of these engines for Christmas this year, and I want to get the A-A set and both the powered and non-powered B units to have an A-B-B-A RF-16 Sharknose diesel consist. The problem is that I haven’t had any luck with finding dealers in my home state of North Carolina that have these available. On the websites for most of the dealers I could find that had them on their list, I found that they were sold out, meaning there were none left in stock. I need some help finding a dealer that has the A-A set and the powered and non-powered B units in the B&O livery for the RF-16 Sharknose diesels in stock at prices that I can afford. I decided the best thing to do was ask someone for help, and you were the only person I could think of. Do you think you can help me find a dealer that has the A-A set and the powered and non-powered B units in the B&O livery for these engines? I also looked on the website for your favorite train store, Legacy Station, but I could only find one of the items for the RF-16 Sharknose diesels. Could you help me, please?
It’s a shame that the only two survivors are sitting in a shed on the Escanaba and Lake Superior. I understand the owner wants to keep them safe from enthusiasts who want “souvenirs”, but if they don’t do something soon, it won’t be long before the Sharks meet the cutter’s torch.
What was the second engine used for in real life
Hey Eric you need the rf 16 b unit
this sounds so funny slomo!
that horn sounds like a British 2-tone.
The smoke effect looks quite real, but what is that stuff? I think perhaps maybe it is something like the vapour the that goes into e cigarettes.
Eric uses "J.T.'s Mega Steam" smoke fluid, which is considered the best smoke fluid out there...
I believe it's a type of mineral oil. And yes, it's a vapor. Not real smoke.
did the RF16's ever pull passenger trains?
G- Man Yes, the Delaware & Hudson used them for passenger excursion service.
The reason they are locked in a warehouse if because railfans stole builders plates and cut electrical equipment resulting in very expensive repairs. It got to be so bad the railroad would put up signs saying railfans neither wanted nor tolerated. Like they say a few bad apples spoil the bunch
13:04 Don't you mean 'I'm going to make lemonade out of lemons'?
Yeah, I got it backwards. Oh well.
We all make mistakes. It's human. :P
ericstrains You must have some insane super powers! lol
18:00
i liked the horn on the centipede better it was more throaty
on 2 in the front it miss some step
Sharknoses are sleek engines
Sharg
I'd rather Lionel sell the RF-16 in an imaginary Penn Central paint scheme.
I like it.
But 3th rail it's bad.
First
inaccessible to the public? What kind of bonehead thought of that?
I should go American tank on that warehouse.
SteamKing2160 Well, the owner is just trying to protect his things.... -_-