Batman Finally Apologizes To Superman
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- Issue #: Injustice 2 Annual #2
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I honestly blame the Gotham Justice system. Joker should've gotten the electric chair a long ass time ago
I always wonder about that. Batman has delivered the Joker bound to their door dozens of times, and yet they keep putting him in Arkham. And let's be honest, with the possible exceptions of Victor Fries and Waylon Jones, everybody housed in there should just be executed.
@@maxburrill6192 a prisoner with diagnosed mental infirmity can't be sentenced to death penalty, because it isn't actually their fault. Plus, in New Jersey (where Gotham is placed) death penalty has been abolished in 2007.
SERIOUSLY! He handed the madman to them on a silver platter so many times! Why is it his responsibility to kill the Joker???
Yet any normal person would have shot the Joker dead. This whole thing is contrived.
Remember guys, comics make no sense. Even if he was diagnosed mental infirmity, the joker made too much crime to be spared. He controlled criminal organisations, killed so many people and despite of that he is always sentence to Arkham, the place he always escapes. But there is stories when he was sentenced to death.
I dont think Martha and Johnathon Kent get enough credit for all they've done sometimes
Without them, Superman would just be another random alien
Honestly.
Unless we're talking about the DC Cinematic Universe versions of them.
In which they probably would tell you to not save anyone or keep hiding.
All while killing themselves to win an argument with you.
I agree,john.they did'nt fail their son he just swllowed up by grief and rage.Clark could not have asked for better parents.
@@dylansmith5206 imagine going to such lengths to exaggerate a movie you so obviously are obsessed with
"I can't say for certain the world is better with you in here... but I know it would be a finer world if she was still part of it"... damn, that almost made me cry
I mean it made superman cry so
"lol crying over still images, look at little Fernando, gonna cry?"
-Bully Maguire
See that's exactly what he should've said to Clark a long time ago.
@@rogeliojaimes121 I guess that comes to show you you don’t always need to be a superhero to make the world a better place
@@fictionverse7292 oh indeed
“We’re all children.”
Damn that’s a really good line.
Because in the end, it is the truth. We can grow old as much as we can in this world, and in the end we are still all children.
@@gaunterodimmmastermirrors72 I think the line is less literal. In the end, we're all small, need help, and can get lost. Who are we to really judge one another? Bruce would have done the same thing as Clark with Jie Chill if he had the opportunity, which Bruce tries to deflect with him being a child when his Parent's were murdered. So? He had the chance to kill Joe Chill throughout his life, and he could have, and most certainly would have if he didn't have help from Alfred and all his friends and family.
On the same coin, Clark had the power to kill Joker and did. That doesn't mean he's unredeemable. Lost for sure, but he's got friends who can console him. Or perhaps friends that should have consoled him before he grew more lost.
Amen. Because to God.... We are still his children.
The fact mrs. Kent still talks to Superman as if he’s not in prison for the rest of his life for ruling the world with an iron first and killing so many people and hero’s and doesn’t feel intimidated or threatened by him at all is so heartwarming and heartbreaking and sad at the same time… jus goes to show how strong a mother’s love for their son is
She says it all when she says "You can't hurt me" She's not referring to the red sun emitters.
because even after all of that, he is still her son. She will always be there for him, as all parents should be with their kids.
Agreed.A mother's love for her child has no boundries.
I mean...your son murdered countless innocents, including some children in the way, and plunged the world into totalitarian order that would lead to metropolis and gotham being annihilated by a bloodthirsty supes...
Martha should just call Clarke for the monster he has become.
@@guilhermehank4938 I feel like if she did call him a monster, lemme remind u that a lot of people have called him a monster and he jus rolls with it like “oh it’s jus a ant insulting me whatever”, he would have a painful ass mental breakdown cause hearing that he’s a monster from the woman that raised him would psychologically beat the shit out of him
Honestly seeing pa Kent call out batmans bs standard in calm manner and Batman actually apologized is honestly satisfying
And pa Kent just gonna forget about the thousand of innocents lives his son murdered this whole scene is fucking dumb sups don’t deserve apology how about he apologize to all those families of the people he murdered
@@killmonger5097 b...but they are justifies....joker h..he..he lmao his fanboys will still defend him
@@patrickbasedman5255 Joker is money blame the writers
@@killmonger5097 pa Kent didn’t forget the knew and was angry about it just as anyone as it is said in the video/comic
@@killmonger5097 2:45 he didn't forget about his action, he's calling Bruce out on the wall he's trying to put up
Johnathan and Martha Kent raised the most powerful being on the planet, and taught him humanity.
After that, is it any wonder that Johnathan could put Bruce Wayne/Batman back in touch with his own in just a few minutes?
Johnathan and Martha Kent are the greatest super heroes in the DC universe, and their power is humanity, and responsible parenting.
coz they are avoiding superman become the destroyer of world like brightburn.. God i am so fckin hate that lil boy
You have summed up in one post what broke MoS for me as a movie. The moment Pa Kent even briefly considered letting innocent children drown to protect Clark's secret I couldnt see him as Pa Kent. Because lets be clear here. If Clark had let those kids die, it would have broken him and Pa Kent forever. Clark knowing he could have saved those kids, and their deaths are directly his fault. And Pa Kent knowing he raised Clark to put his needs and his secret ahead of so many innocent young lives.
Alfred..
Except this version of Ma and Pa Kent raised the Superman that was able to be tricked into murdering Lois thus destroying Metropolis, who murdered the Joker in cold blood, and who killed a number of other heroes and civilians, including children, while becoming a global dictator. So, obviously, they fell a little short of the optimum mark in terms of imparting morality, humanity, etc. in their adopted son.
@@woodrobin They gave him Humanity, NOT perfection.
Almost anyone could be pushed too far, The only difference is, when one of US is pushed beyond endurance, we are usually left powerless to do anything about it.
Superman was not.
And i dare say, HE at least was trying to impose order, he didn't just go on a Burn-It-All-Down rampage.
He saw hope if order were imposed instead of using his virtually unlimited power to turn the whole world into a graveyard.
The saddest part about all this is that's probably what Clark wanted to hear all along. All of this could've been avoided if Bruce had just been there as a friend when Clark needed him the most
Very true! Bruce should've been more understanding towards Clark about why he killed Joker and apologized for what happened to Lois too.
Superman choose the wrong person for a heart felled friendship lmao.
Literally the worst.
Batman already superman about his path serval times telling him he needs to stop but he didn't listen
Bruce only cares about his code.
Waa killing the Joker really that terrible? Wasn't about time? Killing millions, poisoning Clark to hallucinate and kill Lois and his unborn son?
Why does everyone not understand that Batman can not have his cake and eat too (no I'm not talking about Catwoman lol).
We needearn what the victims' families go through after someone Iike Joker murders someone they love in they way he does things.
It wasn't murder it was Justice. Instead of being there for Clark he condemned him. When Superman stopped all war around the world and made people behave. Batman kept pushing and pushing. Forcing Superman to use more drastic measures. He should have left it alone.
Hell, in JLU Justice Lord's episode The sun was out in Gotham. We never see the sun in Gotham. That's how safe it was.
Freedom comes with responsibility and if people refuse to be responsible fir themselves that someone will have to take on that responsibility and force them to make the right decisions.
I'm talking about criminals...they lost the right to live. It's better to just gas all the prisons. No more prison sentences..death penalty right after conviction.
Make people behave..or else. Superman was right always will be.
@@jasonalbran376 batman never forced superman hand a lot of choices he made by himself even when wonder woman and hal called him out on his bullshit he still continued to be a self righteous hypocrite
Batman literally warns superman about the path he's going telling him that it's easy to justify one actions it always starts with one
When hes says your scaring them he refers to the general public not crimmle
Supreman is extremely self righteous hypocrite he talk about taking one life to save millions but dose lives weren't on his mind what about the millions of lives darkseid casually kills he looks for any and all opportunities to present himself as this figure who does no wrong who's the only one capable doing right he even goes as far as to say the world safer with the regime
Despite the fact that superman is the biggest threat he a hypocrite unhinged and killed shazam turned around and wanted to commit genocide or mass murder
Batman code is flawed and while I do agree batman should find a way to get rid of joker but joker has shown he likes breaking people mentality knew superman would kill him and activataly provoked him batman saw what happened and knew the effect
Granted he could have worded better but at least he tried to warn him
honestly neither side handled the situation very well. both of them basically said "it's my way or the highway" instead of doing the rational thing, sitting down and trying to figure out a middle ground. for example Bruce should acknowledge that the world is better off without Joker and other villains who kill innocent people for their own amusement. Clark should have acknowledged that you can't wrap the world in bubble wrap and trying to do so just leads to innocent and guilty suffering. Of course neither of them could reach a middle ground as long as Diana was in the equation, in my opinion she was the real villain of injustice as she pushed Clark down the regime path, plus how she lied to and manipulated Kara.
You don't understand. Bruce doesn't have any soft spot for the villians. He doesn't keep them alive because he wants them to be alive. He just feels that he should not be the who should execute them. No hero should do it. Execution is a judgement which should be done by the court of law. He thinks superheros are just to lend a hand and not to carry out the job of law enforcement themselves.
The temptation of killing is very strong for Bruce. He knows that once he crosses that line he will never be able to come back. He said this in under the redhood movie. Once the line is crossed the temptation to kill will only keep increasing. Then killing will be only option he will choose for tackling difficult situations. Then eventually there will be a time when he kills an innocent person who seemed to be guilty the first time. Just like how superman killed green arrow.
There is no middle ground anymore with the amount of blood that has been spilt
@@dranzergigs8333; bullshit. For less crimes many humans was banned, executed or incarcerated on manners almost inhuman ways on real world.
Joker is no long a "local threat" on almost ways a long time.
Injustice serve just to "deconstruct" the heroes and serve to a dumb agenda.
ON THIS MOMENT my country suffers with one of this creatures. The "system" get freedom for him with this stupid concept of "rehabilitation".
The result??? More innocent people murdered. The Batman "code" is childish and make him supporter of this monsters.
@@dranzergigs8333 A court of law is just 12 people in the end, isn't it?
@@solucaoatende No one compared this situation to your situation or real world events.
@Dranzer described Batman's motives, rules and what he lives by. The question is not if we think it's a cool motto for him to have. We saying he sticks by it and the original commenter saying finding middle ground means he doesn't understand the (comic book) Batman at all.
"We're all children"
That line holds especially true in Bruce's case, as part of him is still that scared child in Crime Alley and he never moved on from that. It is also what makes him unable to process grief properly and therefore couldn't help Clark when he needed support getting through his own grief.
It's not so much that Bruce was a bad friend, it's that he was emotionally unable to help Clark with his grief as he never grieved his own parents' deaths to begin with.
Probably the most insightful comment about Batman yet.
And the others instead of doing this they made him go deep in his sadness making him go crazy specially wonderwoman
Yeah that's all very true. Batman was never very open with anyone and was not a very understanding friend towards Superman about what he lost and why he killed Joker, he just kept acting like a closed off jerk enforcing his moral code on him and that was one of the main reasons Superman became corrupted in that world.
gibbs615 that's a middle age Batman only once he started getting older late 30s early 40's did he start acting more compassionate or at least trying to be. It was Superman that changed him. Had batman been older well this would of went differently. Joker would of been interrogated by Martin manhunter while batman would be with his friend. It's how you can tell batman is right in his prime 33 or so. So focused on the mission he can see nothing else. Superman is also the only justice league member to visit Bruce when he retires. In fact Superman is the only person to visit Bruce as everyone else walked away years before. I think it has something to do with Damian and Jon being about the same age in the comics and here well Jon isn't even born yet so Bruce has no pressure to make his kid get along with Jon. Leading to Damian being a bigger dick and Batman not caring about anything else
It isn't just him though. We're all children.
It's those small moments when batman takes a step back from his own insanity and realizes his own faults.
I think this proves that Superman is more of the insane one not Batman.
@@CatsClaw44 Is it tho? Superman went insane cuz Batman was constantly pushing him over the edge, Superman does show remorse in killing the Joker at some point and in the beginning had no intent in governing it was due to the constant pressure of Batman chastising him while allowing WW to fill Superman's head with authoritarianism while he was grieving the lost of Lois and his unborn child
Superman spiraled into madness due to the loss and everything that happened, while Batman was insane one, trying to force an impossible standard that let to thousands if not millions of ppl dying and suffering, there is no rational human in the world who wouldn't have done what Clark did to the Joker.
Bruce was Clark's friend and he turned his back on him when Clark needed him the most
@@kevinsantos5050 spot on, injustice can be blamed soley on batman
@@8911145533 yeah it really can
This is not Batman fault. It's the Gotham justice system is stupid. Batman is a vigilante who fights crime and cooperate with the police. I feel bad to superman who always hold back to save the earth, but the Joker has given a one bad day treatment just like what has happened to him. My point is they just got screwed up.
Damn. He was fully prepared to argue with Batman. He was completely unprepared to talk with Bruce.
I think we all know what Bruce would have really said after that initial series of questions, and before pointing out that Lois was a better citizen than Clark.
Clark: "Is the world better? With me in here? Has it gotten better?"
Bruce: "We're free."
Clark: "And has that freedom come with less death? Less war? Less conflict?"
Bruce: "People are still people. Some good. Some bad. On a positive note, the cold-blooded murder of super heroes has dramatically decreased with you in here."
"You're putting an impossible man, to an impossible standard"
I think that was my favorite quote from this whole sequence and something that could have mattered if the right choices had happened at the moment. Everyone expects Superman to be unbreakeable in terms of his morality, but he's only a human, one that will get different perceptions of the world as things go on.
I also believe that if we go on a meta sense, this is something that a lot of "dark comic writers" follow without having a proper goal. Because while it adds humanity to make characters flawed, if you don't make your superheroes ACTUAL heroes, and showing why they're roles models in a human aspect, then you miss the point of even writing about superheroes.
Exactly finally someone says it people love to blame batman more so then wonder woman but injustice stans need understand superman is emotional in pain his regime was a way for him to unhealthy cope with his tramua the more people joined the regime the more people egged him on him on flash Hal especially wonder woman cyborg Shazam black Adam etc
Supes is kryptonian
That's funny because superman isn't a human
That's the problem with family I've seen, and I'm glad the injustice comic touched upon this. When a family or friend commits a crime such as murder, even if it was for justice, would you stand by them or let them get imprisoned, when all they wanted to hear was compassion and understanding, not forgiveness? Because they already know their actions would damn them and that what they have done was unforgivable, all they wanted was understanding. Not forgiveness. Unfortunately, Bruce represents that side who distanced themselves from the friend or family because they don't want to be associated with that individual.
Batman should had made a collaboration with Superman, and throw Joker's ass into the phantom zone long ago.
Actually, the phantom zone could had been the League's final way to lock away foes too dangerous.
Or just use the black mercy on him.
Prison system at the bottom of the ocean isn't a bad idea either ha
@@nicklatallade9344 Black mercy drains your life force though, the joker wouldn't last 5 minutes on the outside lol
I agree, I find it stupid how they rarely use the phantom zone when handling High profile villains.
@@theonlychickensama8353 because they’re afraid that they will become more like the justice lords instead of the justice league.
This comic was a incredible read. I really like it.
I can't stop. I just love this comic. Even the man of steel bends to the weight of the world. Seeing batman realize what he should have done to help his best friend really resonated with me on a personal level... nobody can bare be alone. We all long for comfort.
Without it we just... grow colder.
Which comic is this?
@@guardianvalor962 injustice
My theory involved the remnants of the fear toxin in his system while laced with kryptonite as the joker knew that the smile superman wore is a facade for how he feels, he could see the negative emotions being suppressed as the joker managed to find a crack for it to leak as he uses an explosive to make it bigger.
Those like Alfred and the Kents are even more heroic because at the end of the day they are just people and they've been the ones Batman and Superman respectively, turn to for guidance whenever they feel down or inadequate.
This hits me in the feels... then Shazams death plays through my head and I feel better.
God dammit just had to remind me of that
Damn... I feel so bad about K-Oh right he murdered a child.
@@ten-thousandbees8453 it's kinda Shazam's fault for being a yes man and not understanding that Clark needed a person to talk to not enable him.
@@The-Endo-SymArmor The evil that Clark committed is no one's fault but Clark's.
@@adstryker5084 I agree to extent Clark had nothing both enablers. His own mother said he didn't need to be influenced he needed to talk to someone to get him through his grief
Honestly injustice is a good story that doesn't make sense.
For example, batman has shown multiple times that while HE isn't fine with killing he doesn't have issues when OTHERS kill, he once offered superman help to make lex luthor's death look like an accident.
Bcoz he doesn't have any reason to keep the villians alive. It's just that he should not be the one to do the execution. It should be the law.
@@dranzergigs8333 yeah. Injustice is a mess. Batman would have consoled superman in before he started becoming that dictator in the series. He might have stood trial, but he wouldn't be sentenced because of all the good he has done, plus the fact the joker just killed around 10+ million people, including his wife. Injustice is way too contrived to be a mainline story
@@dranzergigs8333 so basically he wants his hands clean while others do the dirty work?
When did he do that? Do remember the issue?
@@MrEnric98 he doesn't trust his own judgement.
Even after insulting bats like he did.
Bruce still said srry for his part
Bruce better be sorry he let Joker nuke a whole city.
@@zee4125 i superman did that. Plus he basically enslaved the entire planet which is worse than nuking a city.
@@oliverrasmusson2362 the issue is joker getting a free pass everytime
@@toniotrussardi8126 well look what happened when he didn’t get a free pass. Not exactly an improvement to the world.
@UCXGFnyHKF0CBcxEpJoSY-ew You're not very bright are you?
This must be very painful at the bottom of Bruce's heart. The criminal he's putting behind bars used to be his best friend, someone he used to see as a symbol of hope, who'd never fall into darkness (as he said to Joker before an enraged Superman killed him). Now he's become a dictator, a monster responsible for multiple deaths (some even being former friends) 😟
Batman has no friends...
@@graffProdigy except for his butler and two corpses
@@graffProdigy I've seen you before, what's your problem? Why all this hate towards batman?
Batman held superman to an extremely high standard.. cause he's this godlike being who chooses to live a simple life and save others. But he's human like all of us in the end
Actually batman has always and would always see superman as a threat the funny thing is if super thinks in the exact same way as lex or batman then their would have been absolutely nothing the justice league or injustice society could have done to stop him
"You either die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain"
Batman - The Dark Knight (2008 movie).
Or, you use up one of your "quotes you didn't say, but damnit, really wish you had enough smart in ya to come up with one yourself" ... so that leaves you with, holy crap, crap man, you ran out. Like months ago! Who was responsible for keeping track of that ... oh ... well, he has been bad and needs punishment ... so ... well, we will just leave you at zero, but, if you use one more quote, by Zods ball hairs, we will Phantom Zone the shit out cha.
@@extraSPARErib You need to watch The Dark Knight Trilogy, friend. I've played both Injustice games 1&2.
Omg so cliche
Or anti hero
@@sylvesterxd6201 No, Villain.
I love how when the mask is on he calls him Superman but once he takes it off he calls him Clark
Bruce has been in the awful and painful position of putting so many of his closest friends behind bars. Harvey Dent. Thomas Eliot. His own son, Jason Todd. And now his greatest friend is another in the long list of people he put away.
I wonder if he was ever allowed to process these emotions and grieve, knowing he is the only person who can stop these people, and that they may never get better and he'll have to forcibly confine them until their dying days.
Thomas elliot was a criminal known as hush he was originally born bad , harvey dent became two face bruce tried to help to fix his face and things would go the way it is but he rejected it and jason todd in this universe kinda a bad guy he killed officers who only did their job , collaborated wih ra's al ghul and some members of the suicide squad
@@maxdam4059
Thomas Eliot was abused as a child since the day he was born by an alcoholic father and a narcissist mother. In an act of desperation he made an attempt to kill them so he would be free of them as a child. Later he snapped again after finally being away from his mother at a camping trip, only for her to return and then was forced to goto a mental hospital. Of which he met Jonathan Crane who was EXCITED at the prospect of this child, encouraged his bad behavior and then set him out early telling him that all his dark urges were great. It only gets worse from there but suffice to say, Tony is a result of his upbringing and had very little chance to turn out better without PROPER early intervention and now it's too late.
Harvey had a mental disorder that gave him a very violent second personality that he tried so desperately to get away from and fix. He worked hard and did make the city better to the best of his ability, before tragically having his face burnt off and having almost everyone turn his back on him. The affliction destroyed the balance he was trying to fix his psyche with and ended up giving birth and the reign to his darker personality. To this day Hatvey is trying to come back but the physical affliction destroys his mental health and sadly allows his other self to take over.
Jason is a walking tragedy. Abused as a child, abandoned, forced to live on his own and forced to be a criminal, then found by Bruce and without proper explanation or time to heal from his already horrific life, was than turned into a child soldier and sent loose to revisit his trauma on a nightly basis. Bruce did not mean to, he had only the best intentions, but he failed to realize the inherent differences between him, Dick and Jason, and how making him Robin without proper therapy would be damaging. And then he died after being tortured and abandoned and betrayed again by a family figure.
And then he came back to life, and went through another layer of hell, brain damaged, abused, starved, alone, stolen, dunked in a pit that is designed to mess up your head, tricked, manipulated, angry, thrown into the deepest criminal hell and without supervision, encouraged to behave on his worse traits. And there is just so much more...
The point being none of these people are inherently evil. They have circumstances they could not control and tried to fight against it and be free...and failed. Ended up making it worse. Though they all hold accountability to a point, there is a sadness in knowing they all could have been better. They all tried at some point to be better. And hopefully one day they'll succeed.
(Jason has actually made amazing progress. Proud of you Jay!)
@@ChasehaWing me too i'm proud of jay but i don't like hiw everyone blame batman for this in fact batlan had no role in tommy becoming hush , he tried to save jason desperatly he failed and for harvey the mob burned his face batman would want to help him to this day
@@maxdam4059
And you're right, Bruce had absolutely nothing to do with Tommy's fall. Sadly, his image and situation was used against Tommy by his evil mother. Bruce was the only good thing in Tommy's life, he was his shield against the dark part of himself and when he was with Bruce, his mom and dad could not hurt him. In actuality, Bruce was Tommy's hero...
And than his mother turned that all around. She subtly made it so they could not hang out anymore. She mentioned Bruce in a positive light where Tommy could never do anything good. She turned Bruce into a golden child and Tommy into a scape goat, all while forcing herself to rely and depend on her Tommy while making it so he could never do anything right. It was a subtle but powerful and evil form of manipulation, and sadly her toxic personality seeped into Tommy, and it lead him to being his worse self.
However he does make it out and he chooses to go back and attack Bruce for his own perceived slight. This is where he needs to take his accountability of what happened if he ever truly wants to be better. He needs help seeing being a narcissist is not okay, that he was turned against his best friend by a manipulative witch that he himself killed, and that he could have remained successful in his own right, and could do so again, IF he chooses to let go of his grudge. The ball is in Tommy's court from here on out... I just wish he a tad more sympathy than the writers give him (I mean, a lot of writers treat the Joker better than Tommy when he gets his
comeuppance).
As for Jason...it's complicated. On the one hand, Bruce had never intended to hurt Jason more, and he loves him so much. He wanted what was best for Jason and did get his consent before making him Robin. Jason said he wanted that...
The problem was, Jason was 12 year old super traumatized kid who was never allowed to be, a kid. Bruce should have insisted on therapy first, and ensuring Jason had a normal and healthy life, BEFORE encouraging him to be Robin. Essentially, every decision Bruce decided to make with Jason (and Dick at the time) were almost all wrong and he fudged up. When he offered Jason Robin, Jason, who has been used since he could walk by his previous paternal figures and probably every adult he ever came across, misunderstood Bruce's offer and thought to live with Bruce, that he had to be Robin to "make his keep." Even if he did want that (and he sooo desperately wanted it), what he needed was a stable home and help AS Jason Todd, not as Robin. At least for a little while.
And as an "adult" (Jason may still be a teen. It's terrifying to think about.) Bruce has been... less than helpful to Jason's recovery. The two don't listen to each other and anytime they make a step in the right direction or are on the mend, some other writer decides "LETS RUIN EVERYTHING" And turn Bruce into a horrible monster who abuses his kids, and Jason sadly, tends to get the worst of it.
It's honestly very painful to watch and read.
But yeah the post was not to say Bruce was at fault for putting his friends/ family away. But rather how sad it specifically has to be him who does so. And whether he should have the right to mourn what keeps falling apart in front of him.
@@ChasehaWing i don't feel writers these days as writers i mean batman would never become like that i feel these writers always put them in a weak state like they did with superman many times
I am so glad Mr. Kent finally talked some sense into Bruce about what he should've done long ago...be more understanding towards Superman about why he killed The Joker and apologize for what has happened to Lois Lane.
Lois is no more valuable than any other citizen that Joker (or any other villain) has victimized. The core problem is not that Joker tricked Superman into killing Lois -- it's that Superman failed to care about everyone else as much as he cared about Lois, which made him willing to harm *everyone* else in retaliation for Lois. That problem applies broadly to many (most? all?) other superheroes, although it's a consideration that Batman seems to get, usually -- it's partly why Batman tends to avoid killing people.
I like how despite how dangerous and ruthless Superman is in this story , he still becomes a calm and loving boy for his mother despite after everything. In a way the character can be redeemed but not the conventional way , maybe a new identity and design.
He threw aside his adoptive parents and his actual father after killing green arrow
Hes a monster, even tried to destroy cities for disproving of him
@@packerman7410 everyone’s got a monster in them. Doesn’t mean he can’t be redeemed
@@packerman7410 Let's not act like Wonder Woman wasn't at fault. Clark kept doubting his actions but Diana reassured him. Which is why Ares stated he feared them as a couple. Diana can take away Clark's restraints & she ended up doing that.
@@davidortiz3094 yep, basically Wonderwoman caused it all. Igniting his anger instead of tempering it; calming it. She wanted this, and she got it. And it cost Superman everything in the end.
The look of "Oh Shit" on Clarks Face when Bruce apologises is aces.
Bruce saying sorry to Superman is very satisfying and shows how deep down inside he cares for Clark.
It's more like he finally realized what kind of a douchebag he was and that it's not all Clark's fault
@@dranzergigs8333 yes it is Clark went crazy and killing innocent people and proved to Batman that succumbing to murder will change a man no matter how good he is
nah, he just realized how big an asshole he was at clark, you expect someone to be sane after clark was tricked to kill his own wife and child and also his normal friends in the city? he could have let it pass at first and talk to him about killing the joker instead he got into full batman mode and forsaking his friend and what kind of super detective you are if you dont have a scenario where the joker might go after with superman?
@@Axel-ye8tt those people who cheered for the joker? the very same person that killed his wife and unborn child and also his city?
I knew Superman was too far gone when he murdered Shazam. It may have been a few years that had passed, but Billy Batson was still only, what? 16? Maybe 17? When Clark murdered Shazam, he didn't murder just another super hero, he murdered a child. Billy's only crime was believing in Superman.
@warwik Xio pretty sure MM survived that
@warwik Xio didn’t Tom Taylor tweet out that he’s not dead?
@warwik Xio “Martian Manhunter didn't die. His burning bits fell into the sea. Then he hid out as an Atlantean for a few years - as per his in-game story”
As stated in the Injustice page, Billy got his powers at 12. He's clearly been a hero for a while now say a year and the Injustice game takes place 5 years later so Billy was easily 18 an adult not a child.
@@thunderbolt8266 That crowd he killed were Joker worshippers so who gives a damn if they died. Martian Manhunter tried to murder WW in cold blood in Year 1. SM didn't kill Captain Atom, Atom was trying to kill Superman because of orders and WW cut his suit which Atom used the explosion to try to kill Superman. Green Arrow died because just after Atom tried to kill SM GA fired an arrow at SM that bounced off him and nearly murdered his father which enraged Superman. Black Canary shot Superman with a kryptonite bullet and tried to kill him so screw her.
I may dislike the Injustice series as a whole, but there are some parts that I love. Ma and Pa Kent were done perfectly. Ma treating her murderous son with genuine love and affection, knowing that he's done horrible things but he's still her son deep down. Pa not giving a crap about Bruce's wealth and speaking to him in a normal way while also giving him some harsh-yet-honest advice. That is about as mid-west as you can get.
Batman realized that instead of letting his friend suffer in silence and letting his friends pain turn into tyranny he should have been their to help him and maybe if Superman had his best friend with him the events of injustice would have never happened and sure he would’ve needed time to recover from losing Lois and his unborn child and face the consequences of killing the joker(sure the joker was one of the most evil people on the planet he still was a living being) the world would have eventually gotten one it’s greatest heroes back instead of a tyrannical monster.
Maybe, or maybe Superman would have disregarded everything Batman said.
Don't forget Batman turned on Flash who was a friend. And killed Billy who saved his life twice just for speaking against.
Who's to say Batman would have been any different ?
It might have taken longer, but it doesn't mean it wouldn't have happened.
@@masterDarts4188 Ever read a story called Kingdom Come? In this alternate universe, Joker again killed Lois Lane and nearly all of the entire staff of the Daily Planet. As Lois had been beaten by Joker and had her skull crushed, (remember Jason Todd?), she was dying when Superman came in. Knowing how Clark would feel, Lois begged with her dying breath for her husband not to lose his moral integrity. And to honor her, Superman did just that and took Joker to prison. As he was about to escape again, Joker was brutally killed by a new hero named Magog. Superman took Magog to court for murder, but he was acquitted. Superman saw just how society changed as they chose a hero who would kill over one who wouldn't. As a result, he decided that he was no longer wanted and abandoned being a hero to live in solitude.
"When your parens were killed, in that moment, if you'd had the opportunity, would you have killed their murdere?" Grim Knight join to the chat
Dawnbreaker too
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Should we include The Robin King?
I mean joe chill was just a thug
Two words. I'm sorry. How things might have been different if Bruce had been there for Clark? Not to condone what he did, but at least to understand. To grieve with him instead of trying to take the high ground.
I'm not saying that friends have a falling out, but there's a reason why, even for all their differences, Bruce and Clark considered each other best friends.
I would love to see Pa Kent and Uncle Ben talk and share their wisdom
And argue over who pays the round.
@@Cyberium and laughing over their pet peeves they have for their children and embarrassing stories.
The philosophy of this annual was soo good. Really changed the I way I think of things.
What is the philosophy?
@@CrackedCandy In the greater scheme of things superman was wrong but this was the first time batman actually sat down and thought about the little details and how he failed to be there for clark as his best friend. It really was a lesson on empathy, how we should all put ourselves in other's scenarios.
That was as good and powerful a moment in comic books as I've seen without blood shed...
Leave it to Bruce Wayne to have a drink with his Best friend's Dad after putting his son away in cage with Red Sun Emitters. Come on!!! Superman nearly destroyed the world.
Well, not destroy. More like conquer.
I get the feeling it wasn't his idea but Clark's father's idea. He wanted to talk to Bruce because its clear no one has the strength or resolve other than Clark to tell Bruce the truth about himself.
Batman is the one that escalated the situation with the green lantern war, and invading his home where his parents were. He did this because Superman stopped wars, and killed the joker, oh and he wiped out an demon army. Batman is the one who tried killing superman first multiple times. Lets not forget that when Supes needed a friend, that friend backstabbed him in favor of a mass murderer.
@@robertw1800 it's Not Batman's fault!!! You can't blame him because He wasn't the one Responsible for a thousand deaths. He wasn't the one beat Green Arrow to Death. The Fault is All Superman's.
@@jessemillan1385 Green arrow invaded his home without any clear intentions stated. That's a home invasion my dude, any American citizen has the right to kill your ass for the same offense. If Superman went to any court of law for killing the Joker, he would be deemed innocent quite easily. No one would blame Superman for what he did, and would champion him a hero. Green arrow was a home invader, and got what was coming to him. Home invasion equals a death sentence for anyone able to defend their house and family 👪. Superman stopped acting like a hero sure, but the dude still has rights as he was clearly a citizen of the states. Batman violated those rights in every single action. Making batman a anti hero as well, he did it for a mass murderer though, so I'm not going to sympathize with the phycho.
He should've let Jason Todd kill Joker in secret. Bruce's convictions brutally bit him in the ass in the Injustice universe.
He doesn't know Jason is alive in this continuity.
Any interesting aspect of Superman's character is that he is essential a man with the power's of a God. How he interacts with the world and what he does dictates everything. Most versions have him as the paragon of what we strive for: Empathetic, compassionate, hopeful. I like how the injustice storyline does commit to the idea of Superman's humanity and by that I mean all of it. Every bit of good and bad of being a human. Seeing Superman show the dark side of his humanity makes it more interesting. And we see how that humanity erodes and corrupts not just to the violence, but by the expectations of others wanting the Paragon.
Batman being a friend and understanding Clark on that level instead of the great hero would've possibly veered the story to a more hopeful level. Yet we see how his strict code break down his friendship and not addressing the true pain of Superman aided in that.
Pa kent calling out Bruce is really nice. Bruce's worst weakness as a human being is that he refuses to nurture. He refuses to meet others with warmth and compassion. And because of this, he's partially responsible for the creation of the tyrant superman. Superman could have brought himself back together if he just had a real friend. Someone who let him off the hook for a while. But Batman never let up. He always held Superman's decision against him, despite being unable to say he would have done better in Clark's position.
It isn't that he *refuses* to. It's that he doesn't know *how* to, because the people that were *supposed* to nurture him were taken away when he was still so young. Alfred raised him as best he could, but he could only do so much without stepping over the line -- a line he would never cross out of respect for Bruce's parents. And so, while Bruce was raised by a good man to be a good man, he was also missing quite a bit of what makes a human... well, human.
@@tek512 That's the problem. Honestly, while I side with Superman more on killing the joker and his early decisions, most of his later decisions made him into someone just as bad if not worse. Even then, in the end, nobody won. Only the Joker.
@@lapplandkun9273 Had Batman never warred with Superman then the tyrant would've never been born. All of Batman's actions only caused tragedy.
superman should have a redemption arc in injustice 3
That would be extremely difficult as he killed shazam and green arrow in cold blood. But lets see if they can pull it off
Batman before walking away: "Sike."
Nah, I think Batman learned his lesson
😂😂😂
@@King_Nex what lesson? That superman was a loser?
@@themysteriousface7633 Not to be an arrogant jerk. That sometimes, compassion will solve a problem, and not a fist.
@@King_Nex Superman is loser, case closed
I don't understand why Superman is in prison and Harley Quinn isn't. She helped the joker kill Lois and blow up Metropolis. Millions of people dead. But she gets a pass?
Batman may have not killed anyone but he sure has put people in the hospital with serious injuries but he gets away with it all the time. He may not murder human life but he sure as fuck murders the hell out of alien life. If it was Batman in this situation I think he would of murdered joker.
Sometimes people can change and become better person. We should give them to chance to redeem theirselfs.
And sometimes people can change and become worse.
@@burakardaaksoy6339 Harley got more chances and understanding than Superman and that is pure Dogshit writing
This was the biggest plot hole in the injustice storyline. And this always bothered me . and that is what is so fucking cringe about batman..
Yeah, that's the one thing that rubs me the wrong way about Injustice. Harley should absolutely be behind bars for all the shit she pulled.
"He murdered someone in cold blood."
-Talking about a person who killed the maniac who nuked a city and forced him to murder his family.
In this instance, where a clear threat to humanity is present, all of the arguments about Utilitarianism vs. Egoism, etc. needs to get thrown out of the window lol.
The hard truth is that Bruce could have sympathized with him for his loss, humanized the whole thing and probably even convinced Clark to stand trial for murdering the Joker. To show everyone that he didn't consider himself above the law. That he was a hurt and grieving man.
Ultimately, it would have been a trial noone would have convicted him during, either. It would make for an interesting "What If..."
Yeah but it was still murder. That might have been justified. But that’s not why Bruce was angry at Clark. Clark started spiraling down a dark path. That was the problem. Not the fact that he killed joker. Batman knew that he could come back from that. But he never let go of his rage. If Clark killed joker while he was in the process of blowing the city up I doubt it would have been as big of a deal.
@@movieblocks9164 Yeah but that's the point that Jonathan Kent was making with Bruce. He needed someone to sympathize with him and Bruce didn't. Bruce IMMEDIATELY started treating him like a criminal. Without someone human to ground him, he spiraled out of control.
@@movieblocks9164 yes it would once you cross the line with batman for whatever reason his gonna give you the red card he believes they is zero justification for breaking your moral code do you know any example of someone going against batmans no kill rule and batman was next page or comic issue cool with him or her with no consequences?
@@frozenkilt nobody not even the judge , jury and excitioner , would show up to court to convict the man who had the balls to kill the joker joker was just pure evil bu superman after the first game going to court now that would have been interesting
In essence, batman code is what makes him sorta of a villain collaborator
Well you don't realize. If batman killed his villains so will Gotham. People will start taking the law in there hands. Also DC as a universe is different than ours ( it's obvious) . Humans aren't that special here, God's aren't whom they worshiped and in world of being that powerful there is only little much humans much can do.
@Lord Slade that's not for batman to decide. If you wanna be pissed at anyone, be pissed at the courts for not dishing out the death sentence.
@@jacobgraemoor5778 spitting facts
bro batman dosent killbut the LAW does! Batman is just doing his job he dosent like to kill because of his parents, im not supporting batman but FOR GODS SAKE WTF IS THE COURT OF LAW DOING JOKER KILLS MORE THAN 100 PEOPLE A DAY AND THEY SAY "awww hes mentaly insane poor guy:(" like wtf just put him in a death row.......
I completely agree. How can they keep these people alive but yet when things goes south, they'll find a way to blame the heroes.
John and _Martha_ are the greatest heroes on earth, I swear.
What about Alfred?
@@Бобёр-ю8г correct
A great way to conclude Injustice, people without power but have a heart, is what could potentially make the world a better place.
The fact is what the Joker did to Supes was beyond horrific. The issue wasn't so much that Superman killed the Joker, it was how.
It was for revenge, not Justice.
Dinnae mistake me, Superman's reaction is purely understandable. He suffered worse than anyone should.
The problem with the Regime Supes is he is still acting out of that outrage and agony. He hasn't fully grieved and mourned Lois and Metropolis.
Members of the Regime pushed him further down this path, Wonder Woman comes to mind, but Sinestro's manipulative actions pretty much accelerated things.
Batman was too focused on Stopping Superman, but if he had been a friend to Supes things could have been very different. I mean, that is what this comic was about.
Superman can be rehabilitated, but it will take a lot.
4:16 That cold smile. It's like he was almost gone. Clark Kent truly died.
Not dead just buried
@@sinfuladam yeah, buried.
@@linnoel3095 a moment later, after Bruce said he’s sorry. It shook Clark’s whole world. In that moment that very moment was the most vulnerable he has ever felt since metropolis. Because no matter how hard he tries to deny it that is something that Clark needed to hear but he just refuses to admit it because it validates that everything he has done up to that point was all for nothing.
This makes me wish we got an Injustice 3 some more, where Superman gets his redemption.
Booom!! By far Jonathan kent is most enlightened person in the DC univers. What a truth bomb
I would have died if he called superman the man of tomorrow.
This was good. 😭❤️ Many of the comments don't quite word correctly what just happened. He didn't simply call out Bruce...he opened his heart.
I understand both Bruce and Clark. It's hard to open up to someone when they do terrible things and Bruce loses everyone he gets close to. So building walls is probably natural for him at this point. Tired of crying over death and all that.
Still, Clark needed a friend...not saying it would have stopped the chaos...but it might have just helped.
If you raise a superman, then you are super parents
Batman’s standard is too binary. What he doesn’t realize is Superman ironically is as human as all of us.
I like the fact that Johnathan looks like Schneider a bit from Smallville show.
Gotta love the context behind the transition. Bruce walked up to Clark. Stared at him. Then recalled his conversation with John. Then made this decision. I'm a sucker for reflection.... it could change so many outcomes. He sat there until superman reminded him that all he really cares about is the protection of earth and its people.
All tyrants justify what they do "for the greater good". The fact is freedom IS the greater good.
@Jaquan Kelsor You think tyranny and taking away freedom would be worth it?
@Jaquan Kelsor Limiting their allowance sounds very much like taking away freedom.
But yes, I'd much rather a system where the areas where I need to ask someones permission are far more limited.
Less gatekeepers
there are way too many layers in this story to definitively say whose at fault in this situation, if your gonna blame batman for everything go ahead and explain what other options he had in the moments he was trying to stop superman, would it really have been better for earth to by under the heel of a mentally damaged hyper indestructible alien?
or simply he could have controlled joker, even heard of lex killing alfred or damian ??
@@araizashraf joker isnt the type to be controlled by anyone
@@codygarton7177 then get rid of him or keep him somewhere he cant escape and if not, stop blaming superman for ur own shit 😶
@@araizashraf did you read my comment? i said you cant say for sure whose to blame, personally i blame them both equally
Batman could build a prison for the strongest being in the DC verse but can't even keep joker in his cell. If only batman had built something to contain the joker none of this shit would have happened
this is why I call BS on batman's logic, it makes joker's life as valuable as the lives of his victims, when superman killed joker he did the world a favor, yet batman is upset cause he took a life not acknowledging that it was the joker. honestly what joker did makes batman & the legal system at fault too one of them could have prevented it. also, it was batman who made superman a target of the joker since he claims superman is incorruptible in the year 0 comic for someone who knew the joker as well as he did he should have known the joker would take that as a challenge.
This is a stupid argument. Again, you're attacking someone because they didn't murder a criminal in cold blood.
@@CatsClaw44 the joker isn't a criminal he's a monster also he mad a superman for killing the joker after he tricked superman into killing his wife & child bats should have at least saw it from Clark's perspective instead of shutting him out & letting diana get in his head, if he had done that maybe Clark would have seen he went too far, but its bats saying he took a life while everyone else is saying it's the joker. Not everyone can put up with his bs as long as bats has some point enough is enough however I don't agree with everything supes did after.
@@CatsClaw44 murder? he didn't even need to do that, all he had to do was either use alllllll that money he has for some good and get the best lawyers in the world so the joker can actually get the death sentence, or he could of imprisoned him himself. not too difficult with all the money he has but no, he just lets him go knowing the justice system is ill equipped to handle someone like joker, hell he could of even spend that money trying to fix that justice system but he didn't, he just sat in his cave doing nothing. so he is at fault
@@kamiooof2211 dude there's a video on how the legal system basically protects the joker from being executed even after all the shit he's done no lawyers can beat it
Gotta appreciate the influence of a good father figure over people, even the Batman.
Even if the Joker had forgone execution because of insanity, you'd think that after all the shady shit Arkham Asylum has done to their patients over the years, they would at least lobotomized him. Something that actually redeemed him in the Justice Lords DCEU.
Seriously can people stop blaming batman. It's not his fault.
It's the courts/justice systems fault for not prosecuting the joker and giving him a death sentence.
Seriously I'm sick of this stupid back and forth argument.
It's simple. Batman takes down the joker, the police arrest him, the courts/justice system is responsible for prosecuting the Joker.
@Utku Exactly
@@lightingdragon4143 finally, ill like this comment so people see this first before typing "its all batman's fault for not killing joker in the first place, killing criminals without authority is okay"
Cough cough Bruce threw jokes into chemicals and never once admitted his involvement and responsibility leaving billions and possibly trillions killed from main universe to multiverse
@@mrnukes797 your an idiot he has acknowledge that he is responsible for creating the joker. He did in the comics, movies, and tv shows.
Also that still doesn't change the fact that I'm right about how it's the courts/justice systems fault why the joker is still alive.
@@lightingdragon4143 ok what about the law, his contingencies, lack of humanity, did he ever tell the authorities dumbass that should've been obvious with the authority part
When your best bro, says sorry for not doing the part of the job that he was supposed to do... And for that you do your part bad too.
At least one of them apologized.😔😞
Batman's apology broke Clark more than any fist or magic power ever could.
Because he realizes that he failed him as a friend.
5:00, wow that look that Clark had shows just how shocked he is about what Bruce just said, and how much it really meant to him.
It's nice how, in between all the action and fighting, you can get very human moments like these in comics.
How batman was originally written. "Holding an impossible man to an impossible standard" would have been responded to with. "I haven't broken it.. and I'm just a man. What's his excuse?"
I.. really don't like this batman.
Deep down, they are still friends - Brothers even - but their indifference makes it hard for them to see what each other wants the other to understand.
its amazing how Bruce personallity changes so much when hes batman
Pa Kent is the MVP. He told Bruce that my son could turn a mountain into dust, you don't intimidate me.
Batman has met a man more stubborn than him.
Whoa. This doesnt even need to be animated. The power is felt in the pages.
Simply beautiful ❤️
3:50 that transition, though.
Damn best parenting award goes to the Kent’s.
Straight life lessons!! This makes comics great
I read Bruce and Clark's lines in my head as Kevin Conroy and George Newbern.
To me the whole injustice story was just a mess and pretty much all over the place in my view, and i still don't see why Harley wasn't still punished for helping the Joker in Injustice 1. But to me the whole story was a mess. But keep up the awesome work been loving your vids.
Why’d I think this was the “you owe me 16 dollars” meme
Yo Fernando, DC should ask you to do their music while people read comics online. That was absolutely brilliant. It made the comic that much more hard hitting and insightful.
I think it hits superman even harder, because once Batman apologizes and says “ I should’ve been better.” Like you can see it hits him more because like Batman is taking account for the whole problem with joker. But the thing is Superman knows Batman couldn’t have been better. Hence why it hits him
Tbh it's nice seeing batman apologise for once. The guy is to stubborn and obsessed about his so called moral code
Literally this morning I was searching your channel hoping you'd already uploaded this and didn't find it lmao.
Sadly to see this and remember they were the best heroes on earth, with big differences but still the best heroes we saw before all this madness
The true three most powerful beings in DC. Alfred. Ma Kent. Pa Kent.
Man that was Beautiful,✨ I can't believe they Cancelled Programs like "Young Justice" while showing Stupid sh*t with meaningless Morals/Life Messages...😢
And Justice League Unlimited was AMAZING...✨
You got yourself a New Subscriber...⚡
Thanks for subscribing bro ! I appreciate you being here man 🙏
@@FernandoComicsOfficial No, Thank-YOU for being here....cause that reawakened the Passion & Love I have for these Comics/Shows.
And in my Heart also...⚡🙏
@@tobiaslewis8285 excellent man! Anything you'd like to see uploaded?
@@FernandoComicsOfficial With 665 Videos not sure, I'll let you know...
You can tell that really did help Superman since in the second game he seems so much like his older self than in the first game.
And you can see the amount of respect, Superman has for Bruce!
Jonathan was not condoning all of Kal-El’s actions, but he was absolutely condoning he did on the day Lois, his child, and Metropolis were taken from him.
Legitimately, the one most at fault for all of this is the broke as hell justice system in DC America. Lex Luthor sets a giant robot loose in a populated area, the Joker gasses half a city just to prove that he can, but somehow these people never get the death sentence and never end up in prisons strong enough to hold them. The people who truly need to apologize to Superman are all the people of Gotham and Metropolis, who got so used to having superheroes wipe their asses for them that they stopped caring about standing up for themselves. What jurors kept letting the Joker off? What senator or congressman blew bullshit up everyone's asses about forgiveness and second chances while they were taking bribes on the side? Which politician cut the funding to the hypermax prison I'm SURE must have been proposed? Injustice happened because HUMANITY failed in the DC universe. But nobody wants to talk about that story. They blame Batman, or they blame Superman. This wasn't their fault. It never was.
If the first thing Batman did in year one was go to the FoS and forgive Superman Injustice might have been avoided.
This ending was wonderful, it left everything up to interpretation, what happened with the rest of the cast, the world after The Regime and if Bruce and Clark ever got to set their differences and go back to the way things were. The 2nd game sadly fucked things up showing us that either character has changed a single bit (y'know both endings, the winner takes out the loser for good -not with killing- but you know what I mean).
Anyone else notice/think that Pa Kent was drawn to resemble John Schneider a bit? I know he played the role on Smallville.
Both took one different end of the spectrum and everyone in between paid the consequences. They weren't both right and they weren't both wrong in a sense. However they needed to compromise and find a middle ground.
That bat crying man was mad at superman for executing the clown. That is all what the injustice saga is about. Batman in his feelings. What a self righteous, self centred person that he is. The clown needed to be dealt with a long time ago. It is all on him. He holds this grudge because now that the clown isn’t there anymore, he is left useless. The worlds needs superman, it doesn’t need batman.
It doesn't need this superman, but Batman created him. He distanced himself, left superman to doubt his ideals in doubt, allowed WW to sway him, and therefore started the series. He also allowed the joker to live for too long. At this point, they could use the Lazarus pit to cure him, as it drops him from "super sane," to a normal person. But instead he left his friend and treated him like a monster and criminal, and was surprised when Clark died and became one. This batman should be honestly beaten literally to hell for this. Injustice was 100% his fault, and he didn't need to even break the no-killing rule to save everyone, even the joker. Why is this Batman not considered responsible for these events? Because the mainline one would have tried to save Clark long ago, but it is clear that this one is a twisted version. What a joke.
It's temporary, the fix with joker, but the could have rigged it Bane style, until they figure out a more permanent fix. From what we can see when the joker is normal, he's just a scared dude who has no memory in this iteration. Another dude Batman failed to save, and created a monster out of
@@natereynolds2783 I like the way you think
Superman isn't any better he created the regime because in reality like Marth said he's a scared child holding a red blanket the entire of injustice is superman inability to control his fear or tramua
@@edwin9210 batman wasn't upset superman killed the joker he was upset he gave in joker loves breaking people mentally that's why puts them through tramutic event batman believed that superman wouldn't kill the joker he believed that superman wouldn't be curropt he was proven wrong
Superman isn't any better ether
Injustice was such a dope series
This video gets me every time.
Tom Taylor is the best writer we've ever had.
In the end... He said, both of them understood their mistakes... The mistakes made for the world and for each other. Nothing can change what happened, and maybe superman will never be released... But i think,that this is the best ending possible for this beautiful story
Bruce: So, Clark…uh…I’m…
Clark: You’re?
Bruce: I’m…Sssoorrr…god this is harder than I thought. I’m sorrr..
Clark: Sorrrrrr-
Bruce: Sorrrrrrrrrr-
Clark: Rrrrrrrrr
Bruce: Rrrrrrrrrrr
Clark: Rrrrrryyyyyyyyy
Bruce: Rrrrrrryyyyy…I’m sorry…(walks it off)…
Clark: Sorry about what, Bruce?
Bruce: Don’t push it, Kent.
3:38
That's... deep.