They’ve accomplished a lot of growth and development in 30 years unlike our SA government. If you live here, you’ll know what I mean. I don’t say they are not racist, but we can admit their skepticism of the South African government and the way the ANC has run the country is clearly not without merit. SA is not flourishing, growing or developing its regressing. These people are the very least of our problems or issues, they only highlight to us what our politicians are doing wrong.
I agree our politicians are the makings of a horror movie...pure horror. Yet these people are also wrong, they MUST break down the barriers and embrace the rainbow nation, where no race is superior.
You people talk about things you have no idea about, everything they have accomplished is at the cost of the entire S.A. Nation don't ask me how, use your brain. It's a pity that most African natives still think the grass is greener on the other side than their own side. WHERE DID THE DESCENDANTS OF CAIN GO?!!!!
They are 'flourishing' due to number of reasons such looking after few people unlike the SA government that has the responsibility to look after everyone else including over 4 millions from other countries. Moreover, at large they still have the security of the main land as their area is in the middle of the mainland. Our Taxes keeps them safe. They export goods to other countries because the mainland allows them to do so. They are not a recognised country outside themselves. Many of them still make their living from near towns located in the mainland. Their source of living, the orange river, has its life in the mountains of Lesotho (black country) flowing through and nortured in the mainlkand. If the mainland can decided to have everything for itself, then orania will die. They deal with China because the mailnland allows them. Orania exits because we black peopel allow it to, we are struggling economically because we are for everyone. They ran and live in orania( part of the mainland) because they hate black people. They are a hateful group of people as they where hundreds of years ago when they formed the Oranje Free State to run away from the British rule in the cape and KwaZulu Natal. They tried to form this nonse hundred times before but failed. Many younng afrikaaners are living outsides this mentality.
I am black and I wish we could be like these people,but we always want to blame Whites for our problems. The ANC has been in power for thirty years and everything is a mess.
Why do you not do what those people do? They WORK and do their own cleaning and building. Town s streets are clean. They do not do crime. Every person in that place WORKS and care for a future
I am a black person. I think this separatism is based on a protectionism mind. If we may rather learn from this culture and introspect our behaviours, i believe we can make strong development impact within our black communities. Littering things everywhere, having contagious mindset towards good management, always promoting insecurity in our communities with rapes, house breakings, highjacking, stealing, murdering, drug, lazziness at work. Imagine a world without such? A small heaven? I guess we must learn and correct our shortcomings...
Orania is a perfect model for a working community, they are independant, they do not take hand outs from the goverment, they take care of their own in all spheres, medical, education. They have a municipality that works. They have no crime, they do not complain and get on with life. There is absolutely no reason why everything in life must look like a packet of licorice all sorts, if you go to China, Japan or the Congo there are many places where people stick to their own, even in Ethiopia, just imagine if every village in South Africa had this will of self determination, what a different place this would be. They are to be admired.
I work for an NGO ( most NGO'S are funded by European or American countries) and many white folk, often volunteers, work for them uplifting communities, creating jobs, taking care of orphans etc. But there are no whites living there in that sprawling community. There are several such areas all over South Africa. Those of us who work there travel several kilometres to work there. Probably everyone living there has a piece of land with a dwelling. Some dwellings are tiny but there are several mansions. I have no land of my own, but I don't bleat about it.
@@OlierOnah there is no service delivery and our country is awash with sewage, days / weeks without water, blackouts ( miraculously not before the elections, but we will pay dearly after elections. ) Health care decrepit. Potholes, collapsing infrastructure. It has become so bad that some rate payers are withholding rates from their thieving municipalities, creating an NGO and doing repairs themselves. So what would you do- especially as taxpayers money is used corruptly to enrich the connected?
@@funsidewithravenfury2852 so blacks in any European country can decide to have their own territory where only blacks are allowed in having their own currency?why then do Western powers fight themselves over islands in Faraway continents?
They turned a barren piece of land not much bigger than a large suburb, in the middle of nowhere into an international talking point and a desirable place to live? The rest of the country should be saying, how do we copy these results?
That man is not racist, he is merely stating facts! What did he say that is not true? In 30 years the ANC and their cadres could not improve or maintain anything in RSA! Your kids are not properly informed if you didn't want them to hear what these people had to say. Colonialists are hated and used as an excuse for so many "hardships", but man, do we like the colonialists luxury, style, discipline, etc!?
You are wrong about black South Africans having a bad experience visiting Orania. I haven't heard one experience of local black visitors being treated badly in fact most of these people are impressed after visiting the place.
I think the impression is that of the nice building not the racism inside a free South Africa. Something will change this nonsense better start admitting blacks in Orania or else you’re doomed.
@@cmavuso6068 Doomed for what? Leave the people alone they are not bothering you and it's private land that they bought. There are racism everywhere in the world and there are a lot of black racists in SA too.
I'm not even SA but I don't think this guy's interview was far from the truth in his analysis. If there's no safety concern in Orania and these people enjoy living among themselves, there's no need to tarnish them as being racist because they happen to be of a certain pigmentation. It works for them, and this should be celebrated. Live your life and let other do the same.
the host missed a very important point in her video - afrikaners were put in concentration camps by the british & had lived in fear they would be destroyed. a community like Orania (protected by the constitution and visited by mandela) was about preserving their culture + building things themselves. the Afrikaners have aspirations about being hard workers, ultra religious, independent - much like the Amish. its not about race and more about culture
They should do that in their own counties because they make sure in their own countries we don’t do as we wish but because they’re white they can do as they wish that’s kak
You clearly don’t know how these people operate. They don’t intend to live in the desert forever. Their plan is to move in enough whites to overrun the blacks and take over again. If you know anything about the leaders who they venerate, these people can’t live in peace with others. They can only exist by dominating and streaking from others. They’re the ultimate criminals calling others who never harmed them criminals. It’s a joke. They need to leave South Africa and back to Europe.
As a black South African, I really envy those Afrikaaners living in peace . ANC came as liberators in power for 30 yrs what did they do, left our beautiful country built by Afrikaaners in ruins which is absolutely disgusting. How I wish you had a chance to visited Joburg city you would have understood what I mean. So I don't blame those Afrikaaners who chose to live the way they are. Let them be left alone in peace if possible
Only place in SA that is thriving,orderly,crimeless and safe. NO unemployment,no loitering,no begging,no littering. Clean air,clean drinking water,no sewerage problems and soon no loadshedding.... Shocking to see that it is possible? Or maybe shaken by envy?
No matter how people try to see the good in it this in the eyes of almighty God it is sick because he gave the land to the African people not to the Invaders and you can rest assure according to the prophecies that he spoke in the book of Genesis concerning Africa and its people he will fix it the Bible says that God sits in the heavens and he laughs at the wicked for he sees that their day is coming, these people have a church and you cannot claim to know the Lord Jesus Christ and do such a thing and ouch the people from their own land and claim to represent Jesus Christ at the same time this is wickedness that has sugar sprinkled on it to make it palatable to a lot of people, every wicked empire great or small no matter how well organized it may be and no matter how it may be flourishing if God classified as wicked as sin then it will fall David said I'll be held the wicked they were flourishing spreading themselves like a Green Bay tree and then I looked for them and their place was no longer found so it will be with this town in the middle of the motherland with such conduct,it is a stench in the nostrils of God in the land especially with the garden of Eden was if you think that Africa is not special to God in a way that no other place on the earth is you have another thought common people of Orion if you look about you can see the change now in Africa God is moving forces human forces by his sovereign power and there is shifting there is a revolution there is change happening right now in Africa and almighty God is the mobilizing force behind it it is supernatural power that is causing black people all over the world to wake up and to take possession of what God gave them way back when he created Adam and Eve Hoover also black they will go from that land know if and sin butts
As an Asian man, I found her view is pretty interesting and confusing. The place is clean, orderly, no crime, no umployment, no drug , she said that in seemingly upbeat tone. But somehow the place is devilish. Maybe a place somewhat dirty, day time crimes, people hang out by liquor store, open air drug dealing is more of a normal scenery in that part of the globe. Maybe the White folks came in and made it clean, crime free, schools, businesses ...disrupting the normals. Do you see my confusion ?
I am a black person, and I absolutely agree with this guy 💯 . In Africa everything is broken and destroyed. They don't want hight standard for their countries.
the host missed a very important point in her video - afrikaners were put in concentration camps by the british & had lived in fear they would be destroyed. a community like Orania (protected by the constitution and visited by mandela) was about preserving their culture + building things themselves. the Afrikaners have aspirations about being hard workers, ultra religious, independent - much like the Amish. its not about race and more about culture
Just look at the buildings in the inner cities in Johannesburg and Pretoria. Why don't you go to inner Soweto and see that the black people live in squalor, after 30 years of stealing, lying, taking white land. On 20 May 1983 the ANC car bomb injured me too,and other people too and now they are heroes. Please get ALL your facts before you call people names. And as a matter of fact slavery,specially set slavery is still going on, and the victims are getting younger and younger and are not only black. We all have some shame
@@lm_b5080 Read the video title once again and listen to what she she is saying. The video is not about Afrikaner history. In any case what's all this about "concentration camps"! Now the Afrikaner is the victim? It reminds me of a people who among others were victimised by nazis. Because they had a lot of political clout they were given a little land to settle. Today they still play victims yet they are the worst persecutors!! Were jews ever enslaved or sold into slavery and victimised politically, socially, culturally and economically like Blacks. Yet when Blacks speak of injustices they suffered they are called "cry babies" and told to work harder!! afrikaners are RAVING RACISTS Period!! They are digging their own graves. They managed to put clauses about their "protection" in the SA Constitution because back then they had the power. Mandela may have been the President but the army, police, judiciary - in fact the whole civil service was White controlled and no Black could fart without their approval. Lets see how long that will last!!
As a South African Indian, I applaud the people of Oranja. Not for segregation, racism, their views etc but instead for deciding to do something for themselves and their families rarher than sit back, moan and groan and complain about what hasn't been done. They created a community for their people to thrive in...very much like the Amish in America. Other minority groups should learn from this. Don't complain. Be proactive.
Why does it bother you so much. Nuns and Monks isolated themselves into enclaves for millenia and that is a cultural thing. So unless they are harming others why do you want to change them.
They are a religious/cultural group like the Mennonites. I’m a black 🇿🇦 but I see nothing unusual or wrong with these people. There is also nothing racist about them. They just have strong beliefs, which are fundamentally Christian. I’m sure if these were people of any other religion you would’t have such negative views about them. In SA there are also many China cities no one asks for membership criteria or their views about outsiders. Regarding their statues, I challenge you to name one nation that was built by saints. Nations are built by worriers all over the world. These people honer the heroes who built 🇿🇦. Only the future new Jerusalem would be a holly city of God, beautiful sister. Enjoy our beutiful diverse country 🇿🇦😀.
Her own country has so much ethic and racial tension. Her ethnic group, the Tigrayans as well as the Amharas (the Semetic speaking Habeshas) not even 100 years ago were active in enslaving the very dark skinned Benishangul Gumuz people in Western Ethiopia and Gambella in Southern Ethiopia - they called them Shanquella and Barya which meant slave. Even today the Habesha will jokingly call family and friends who look more like African than Habesha they call them Barya (which means slave). She obviously doesn’t do this as her mind is more enlightened but I guarantee she has family that does! Not the best person to discuss this topic because if we are talking historical atrocities, Ethiopian Highlanders are full of them!
@sondisamnvemnyama, your'e misguided and don't even know what white racism and white SUPREMACY is all about, dont know your race or where you're from, imagine settlers coming to your land, grab hold of your land, create an Apartheid state and you the indigenous people of the land are not allowed in such neighbourhood. NONSENSE about practicing ones CULTURE and sharing VALUES, this don't and shouldn't prevent anyone from living amongst other communities. So all what this guy is saying about CULTURE AND VALUES are nothing but " Bull" and if you're are a indigenous SA African and you believe that what these people are doing is justify, you should leave SA and go into deep forest and live amongst the Bush Men, probably they could teach something!! Don't worry my sister, take my word, THE ALMIGHTY GOD IS GOING TO PAY THIS TOWN A VISIT, AND VERY SOON!! THE ALMIGHTY has his ways to let his presence be known amongst those Afrikaners who have committed GENOCIDES on his CHOOSEN PEOPLE. THE ALMIGHTY IS WATCHING!!! coming
Tell them most of us South Africans dont see anything wrong while we are just hoping our country can be clean & crimefree. Everything that's happening in Orania, we wish South Africa could be that. Even with employment, law, and order and to feel safe. when walking around. We are tired of how this country is at the moment, and then Non South Africans want to tell us how to run our country. These white people had a plan than from running away and being foreigners in another country.
@sondisamvemnyama3476 Your problem is that you are still mentally colonised. You Black SAs, just like us across the Limpopo having voting for the same people who FAILED MISERABLY to deliver for decades. How then did you expect change? Politicians thrive on power, lies and greed and with your votes you empower them and make them worse. Be politically mature and change them every 5 or maximum 10 years, no matter how good they perform. Power corrupts and the more years politicians stay in power the more they feel entitled and invincible. Punish them at the ballot box and remove those who have served 2 terms then you will see change. And the most important of all is ACCOUNTABILITY which you must demand at every turn.
Truths, RSA nd Africa have bigger fish to Fry building Better Africa than focusing on Orania who bought their land outright nd build their place living with likeminded people.
Sensationalist click bait title ....dont even have to watch the video .... what you found was a well run, crime free, working town inhabited by mostly Afrikaans people.... came all the way from Ethiopia to get some click bait ... you must be desperate!
@user-xr7dh5mz4w Why do you destroy everything? I expect you to give reasons for it instead of just simple unsubstantiated statements Not examples of what was destroyed but reasons for the destruction.
I observe it's having a lack of expertise/experience but being in total denial of that fact....I am of the view that, things not maintained, wear out or get damaged due to the nature of life on earth...that's my 2 cents worth of analysis.@@rascocky6366
You are wrong my sister, they are not responsible for what their forefathers did. I'm a black south African and I think that if we can have more places like Orania our country would be a better and safe place. There is nothing apartheid about them, just people trying to protect they worked so hard to build
South Africa isn’t a Black Country. It’s a country that belongs to all the people who lives in it. Black, white, coloured, Indian. Please get your facts straight before putting content out on the internet. Orania pays taxes to the South African government. Orania was purchased from the state and it was formerly used to house the people who built the Van der Kloof dam. After the dam was finished it became a ghost town. You obviously don’t know the Afrikaner history and you belittle people’s history. Paul Kruger was fighting against English occupation and colonialism. Knowledge is power and you find that in history books not the guy who puts petrol in your car. Educate yourself and go and check out The Penuel Show in Conversation with Joost Strydom
@planB-BacktoAfrica The San weren't fighting only Dutch colonialism. They were fighting the incursion of other black tribes from the East into their land. Ancestors of these San people live as ghosts there but are not acknowledged as First People with no benefit. I feel your views are popularist and European, with no African knowledge.
@planB-BacktoAfrica even before that there was Tribal warfare, Shaka slayed tribes who were short in stature and disrespectful to the Zullu kingdom, Lesotho became a country after they fled Tribal Genocide, Swaziland followed to UDI, The Zullu kingdom is also able to close it's borders and UDI secret meetings has been made and plans were made long time ago, Cape Town possible UDI, the Koi San UDI Boesmanland NC flag already exists, The Xhosas have been working towards the same UDI Dream, has been in talks with other similar African towns, as an educated Black South African unlike "yourself" we have no problem with Orania or any of the other many town seeking self determination as it's a human right, Constitutionally and protected by International Law, the last 6 presidents of this country has acknowledged that quote "SA belongs to all who live in it and from all walks of life" close quote, we respect each other and assimilate great without "FOREIGN interference"
@@Guess2know perfectly said Sir. I am white and not an occupant of Orania nor do I have family that stays there. It always amazes me that some people feel threatened by 3000 people of which 1000 are children who are living in a semi desert far away from anyone and anything just going by their own business, not asking for any handouts. Just let them be for crying out loud. They don’t harm anyone and I do find it amazing that they managed to do what they did in such a short period of time. I can’t help but feel that this TH-camr is a race baiter and she will put any nonsense out on TH-cam just to get clicks. War has been part of life since the beginning of the human race and long after we are all gone there will still be wars. It’s concur, occupy and rule. If any country can manage what South Africans did and unite despite of the past it’s nothing else but a miracle. The good people in this country is definitely not the problem only the corrupt politicians and some race baiters. I am referring to all politicians across the country.
@planB-BacktoAfrica The San were genosided by the Inguni peoples from the Great Lakes parts of Africa mostly. Shaka an Inguni , who is the founder of the Zulu nation drove the San into the Maluti Mountains (Lesotho) and the deserts of now Botswana as they ran from being slaughtered. The conflict between the Dutch, French and English settlers was a drop in the ocean of what the real indigenous South Africans endured.
Your title is totally wrong. Once again race baiting where there isnt any. Please remove #Apartheid as their town has fokkol to do with it. Also focus on the positive aspect of that community.FYI I'm not even Afrikaner. And why were you hidding your camera from them?
I am also not a true born Afrikaner, but converse very well in both languages. "Aparthied/Segregation"; call it whatever you like is unfortunately a term that erupted into the World and became a human source of creating one huge void between the two major White Sectors of people who live here in South Africa. Sadly to an extent it still survives, between the two White Sectors. (hatred is what I call it when applied) Maar kom ons wees nou eerlik, beide Afrikaner/Engelse Boere, werk saam in die landbou/Nywerhede ens., om ons tuiste van voedsel te voorsien. In van die Stede word daar seker nog so bietjie vrywing toegepas met sekere werks geleenthede tussen Afrikaners/Engelse, maar daar is bitter min Swartmense wat wel verantwoordelikheid kan aanvaar en om dit regverdig toe te pas/beheer. Basically we all want to live in peace and harmony among our own people.
Anyone has the right to self determination as granted in the Constitution and international law, being against this is racist, they are nothing bothering anybody, why do you force yourself upon them?
Based upon what God has said in the Bible there in the land illegitimately by the standards of god let's just set aside what people say for a moment and talk about the God who created Africa he has some things to say and if you're study the Bible you'll find out that this is even an abomination to him they have a church there and that's not the way of God not the Lord Jesus Christ that is not his ways that is dangerous to themselves how will you have a church and tell the people of the land they can't come into town and work and live there God is not in that at all it is something looking beautiful but full of evil on the inside it's like Jesus said they're like clean white cistens on the outside but on the inside they are full of Dead Man's Bones how will you have a church represented the Lord Jesus Christ and demonstrates such conduct this is the way of Satan.
Their philosophy of segregation, isolationism, while in a land predominantly African is the problem. Are you ok if white people in SA creating schools, restaurants, golf courses, clubs where black people are excluded just by making the joining fee or membership fees prohibitive to the majority black? That is not acceptable, even if they are not bothering anyone. The act of creating a system which by design excludes others is exactly the same as apartheid. Any of those Oranians who wants to come to any African village and build a homestead is very welcome, there is no law whatsoever that excludes them from doing it. Why are they creating barriers for others to joining the community?
@ragamuffin2433 not true. I enquired about building a house in Venda, but was answered as to why I wasn't simply living with other Afrikaners. That's the point here: People do tend to live with their own culture and there's nothing wrong with that. In KwaZulu-Natal there are huges swathes of land exclusively for only Zulu people. I am fine with that. Orania is extremely small, no reason to point a finger to them when black people in SA has large trust lands of their own.
I am a non-white South African and i wish people would let the residents of Orania be, especially foreigners who have very limited knowledge of the plight of most South African citizens. Stop the criticism or save it for theSouth African government. I totally understand why they chose to live seperately and protect their values and lifestyle. Cudos to them. May God bless them.
Orania is a great place. Yes it is safe and growing with no corruption, but mainly, it is a community that doesn't use / abuse another race to do their work. They work themselves, living their own culture without causing trouble for anyone else. It's literally the most balanced and healthy community in South Africa.
It not a white only town, it an Afrikaans only town. This means, even whites who are not Afrikaans are can't live there... unless they are willing to embrace the Afrikaans culture.
LOL yeah right. Let's try and make that ridiculous aberration going on in *SadAfrica* as tolerable and bearable as possible. The indignity of the situation after over 30 years of the so-called majority rule in SadAfrica desperately requires giving a positive spin to what's happening eh? Ok, Nkosi, Jabulani, Molefi, Thabo, Lethabo, Khumalo, Bandile, Bongani.. come have some (in)dignity, we need to help give that abhorrent situation in your 'homeland' a 'positive' twist. We say "it's not a white only town, it's just a teeny-weeny Afrikaans only town". Now that should do it. Nkosi, Jabulani, Molefi, Thabo, Lethabo, Kumalo... should all feel much better now. Case close. Meanwhile, does anybody know the date for the next nationwide campaign to hound/hunt/demonized the Zimbabweans, Congolese, Somalians, Nigerians and other African 'immigrants' in *SadAfrica* please? I mean who cares what the white settlers are doing when there are easy targets for black *SadAfricans* to harass, abuse, demonize, and ridicule? Amandla!
@smartaz4uNigeria is the biggest economy on the continent. They don't need to subhumanoids to function. But if you're dim-witted enough to send money, them it's on you.
Their Rights? Where were our rights when under the directive of the Christian Pope's of Rome,White Christians went the world over committing Genocide on all non-Europeans to take their land and push their adapted false prophet religion which was ours from the start ,which they used to deceive & control the peoples of the world. Africa was colonized in the North by White Turkic Ottoman Empire Arabs who falsely portrayed themselves as the original indigenous native people of Now Arabia. And the Dutch invaded in the South Claiming conquest of Black's native lands. Neither of which is indigenous to the Continent.
In Eastern Africa, such as Ethiopia there are discrimination against other Africans too. Don't shift the blame on the afrikaans because tribalism in Africa is endless and endemic.
@@RastaAfricanGentleman That's VERY SICK!! Those divisions and -isms have brought untold suffering to us GENUINE Africans. We hate, fight and kill each other then end up as refugees in other countries and YOU in your sickness dare to say we don't mind?!! The mind boggles! In the same breath we then hear of Pan Africanism!! what a contradiction.
@@Jj-jg6pw Who says they don't mind? In each different country there is some form of resentment at different levels to "foreigners" - meaning people coming from other countries(including other European countries).
Those are people sharing the same values and are willing to live peacefully, and it seems to work. We should learn from them rather than diminish them.
Orania is a new Afrikaner cultural community. Afrikaners have been in South Africa for almost 400 years now. Orania should therefor exit. Respect that. They are NOT a threat to anyone. It is their contitional right. Article 235 of the contitution gives them that freedom and right. They are also protected by international law. That symbolizes TRUE diversity and democracy. The rest of South Africa has moved back to a real British-colonial state, where everyone is just measured by skin colour. Nothing deeper than that. New discriminatory laws has pushed Afrikaners and the Afrikaans langguage out of the system and society. South Africa is now also a colapsing or failing state, with strong communist tendencies. What dreams and ideals do you have for your own Ethiopian people? Schools, universities and other intstitutions should reflect your own values, language and culture. Not of some colonial oppresser! Why has most of Africa failed in doing so? We were oppressed in killed in consentration camps by the British colonialists. Over 30 000 women en children died in the most cruel circumstances. We know exactly how it feels to be oppressed, ignored and dicriminated againt. Look at places like Vlaandere, South Tirol, Katalonia, Quebec, kantons in Switzerland and federal systems elsewhere. That is how we should refine out political system in South Africa. The sooner, the better. We should avoid becoming real globalists and internationalists. They are a threat to stability and peace. Wordwide. Let's celebrate our different cultures and langguages. And i am definitely celebrating the existence of Orania! ❤
They bought and paid for the land. Its completely self sufficient. Its the safest area in the whole of south africa. It's a model that should be copied and built in other parts of South Africa, if Boers can do it, Bantu and Xhosan can do it. South Africa is extremely dangerous for Nigerians, south Asians, people from Zimbabwe, Albinos. And you accuse them of bigotry ?
Yeah I guess ethnic communities should just stop paying tax to the South African government, create their own currencies, create their own set of laws, expel anyone that doesn't follow their ideological beliefs practically secede from the country itself all while still enjoying free use of the country's transport infrastructure, security system, energy infrastructure, communication infrastructure, water systems, waste management systems, passport etcetera. I sure see nothing going wrong.
💯💯💯💯💯💯% CORRECT THAT IS THE ONLY PART OF SOUTH AFRICA 🇿🇦 BELONGS TO THEM OLNY SO NEAT AND CLEAN NOT A RACIST GROUP ,JUST INDEPENDENT FROM EVERY ONE LIVING THIER OWN LIFE BUILT THIER OWN INFRASTRUCTURE LOVE ❤ORANIA PEOPLE A GOOD EXAMPLE TO OTHER'S IN OUT OF ORANIA PEACE AND HARMONY WITH THEIR LIVES ❤❤❤❤❤❤
Correction, the deaths in South Africa during the rule of Hendrik Verwoerd were a fraction of what they are today. The joblessness as it stands now is something horrific and I do not want to mention the homelessness.
You would think ANC is responsible for that, corruption is unfortunate, but that is not the reason. Systematic colonial and apartheid structure are still at play. ANC cannot apply its mandate like land reform and other redress measures because Africa is held ransom by the colonial structures masquerading as 'investors confidence. If you knew who funds the political parties and decides what happens in the country, you would know exactly why SA looks the way in does
@@Muthundinne2.0 I know exactly who runs and controls South Africa and much of Africa, Baaskap never ended in 1994, it only took on a new perspective. Let us remember that the ANC was only ever installed as a Proxy measure . Cui bono!
You guys forget One thing about whites they are a minority -3% in SA. The ANC took care of 90% of the population plus Zim, Moz, Lesotho,Swazi, Nigeria.....the rest of Africans it was a lot. Everyone is here...a huge mistake the ANC made by allowing our other african brothers. But my piunt is white people only ever took care of their own ...the 3%
Because where the white go they will send money to help built their place up where they came from believe me the white are going to,support each other the black get money but the goveronrnt take tge fund and built thier,houses and forget about the peoples and,I know the whites have,gas ,water and,electricity some African country have none while can't they work together as the whites please this the way I,see thing and feel Thank
What a wonderful project for a cultural recovery from the many years of oppression by the British and colonial conquerors of the African continent.. the afrikaner nation has stood up alone to rebuild its honour and dignity without the help of any other devisive and failed global cultures. Orania has proven that any single culture can nurture a pride that can build a glowing progressive economy out of the bare earth.. without any government interventions. Well done to the brave pioneers of this great project. Let us all learn from them and do the same smongst our own cultures..
Yes, seeing that the ANC and EFF are already practicing reverse apartheid by only appointing BLACKs ( not so-called Coloureds, Indians, Asians -never mind Whites - etc. ) to government posts.
Corrections ,izilungiso, uyaboniswa ,you see things alone Madiba allowed them to go they said they are going to Mozambique kanti you still here thanks Ethiopian girl hayi shame unesibindi I'm sure when you left they washed their town with expensive cleaning stuff!!!
@ragamuffin2433 yes indeed you are correct. They made many good things and left them in perfect working order....until the others took over and destroyed it all.
He speaks the truth. We need to have renewal of the mind. We are destructive, always holding on apartheid. 30 yrs now has passed what have we done., except hating each other and killing each other? Hatred will not take us anywhere. We need to learn from others, and love one another. . We need to learn something from these people as a nation.
What we should learn from Orania is that, any human being can be a cleaner, can do any job. While anywhere else those jobs are reserved for blacks. If they can do it there, why not in any part of SA? We are all human, let's all live like human regardless. That's all we want if we want the world to be a better place for all.
Yes true, the Orania people specifically made a decision not to use other races to do "low class" work, as that would've be seen as belittling other races. No, Orania is actually the most anti-racist town you can get in SA.
People with full bellies don't steal as much as hungry people. People who have a job and a purpose, don't steal as much as people, who see no future. You have to fix the ecomony!
😂its can be fix by not putting criminals in power also not putting policies that's not protecting their people that's how our current government is lacking it's lacks leadership i hope anc looses big time this coming election they have destroy are beautiful country
@@ane-louisestampe7939 stop with the excuses! Do you think that there are no poor people of other races worldwide? Why is it that bc always lag behond others?
@@OpinionatedNomad That's what I'm saying. It's about the economy! We've got poor people, but they are not THAT poor. We've also got rich people, but they are not obscenly rich. Of cource we've got too much crime 🙄 It's just no where as bad here, as in countries, where the economic inequality is MASSIVE. Peace and love.
Go lady and fix your country Etiopia and show us what you can do for poor Etiopin families ! Don’t criticize working community for their hard work! These people bought this land from government and created save communities! Orania ! no crime, no drugs, do not be jealous!
There is no crime and drug abuse in Ethiopia. The GDP of Ethiopia is on the top 10 in Africa. The economy is in the hands of Ethiopians for the benefit of Ethiopians.
This is double standards and hypocrisy. I as a indian south African has also been engaging in hard work but my life was made difficult( torn down ) by white south Africans: I was deliberately failed by a white south African at natal University A white south African tried to perform a coup de tat on my business . She was a narcissist! I had a white south african charge me with a fake harassment order. This was jealousy. I also just wanted growth and I was minding my own business. This is evilness, AGGRESSION , rotteness and backwardness !
What Oranje achieved is what we aspire to. The ANC has destroyed peoples lives especially the Colourds in this country. Their racist policies are. what keeps ideas like Oranje alive.
I remember when I was a kid, not long before ‘94. We used to have milkmen missioning around in their little van things, i used to go put the empties and tokens out on the road side by the gate, a few hours later and fresh milk sitting there waiting. Not a soul would touch it. Thats was just in a regular jhb suburb.
@smartaz4u Africa is also full of descrimination..its not only a white thing,, Its a human problemproving our sinful nature,,,Jesus said ...LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOUR AS YOU LOVE YOURSELF....THAT IS THE STANDARD....
The man you interviewed at around 19 min mark wasnt avoiding your questions! Your first question was answered by him saying that he does not have a victim mindset and doesn't want to focus on that! He'd rather tell you what they have achieved by their own hard work and how they have moved forward!
South Africans need to keep their eye on the ball and not allow foreign interference to rock the boat. Some African American thinking will not be good for South Africa; they will damage "The Rainbow Nation," by bringing their own bitterness to the table.
Since you lack simple logic, allow me to explain as breifly as i can: Because this is the continent of Africa. So this cannot be done to the natives of that country and Continent, by people who are from a completely different country continent. This will be akin to Americans saying Native Americans cannot occupy certain places. They abolished that idea on the 1970s. You should be ashamed to even propose this.
@@magomanyaituga4573 yes native Americans can't occupy certain places even in 2024 that's one reason why they are on reservations. How many do you encounter in mainstream America 🇺🇸 on a daily basis - the real/actual native Americans - not the PRETENDINDIANS per Dr Urmar????
@smartaz4u What you don't know, because you comment without doing proper research, is that in that area about 500 Black families lived there but were evicted/deported/uprooted back in 1991 and sent to some other different areas. that land was then "given" to Afrikaaners by the apartheid regime!! They want to preserve their Dutch culture? Simple! They go back to the Netherlands and practice it there and no one will say nothing to them.
@@rascocky6366 as a South African of colour I applaud Orania and am ashamed that neither the Coloureds, the Indians or the Black majority can emulate what they pulled off. Rather than criticize Orania, we should work on getting our own communities in check.
3 point. 1:what's wrong with shared values. 2: Show me a leader with no blood on his Hands, they are few and far between all across the world. 3. now go to Durban and walk around Inanda, Umlazi and citi center and you will learn something about values
Recognizing and respecting the unique cultures and identities of different regions is important. Africa has its own rich history and traditions that should be celebrated and preserved. It is understandable to feel upset when outside influences try to impose their ways on a place that is not theirs. Communities need to come together and protect their heritage and values.
Many of the early white European settlers (Dutch, French etc.) were conservative protestant Christians who practised isolationism and religious fanaticism in Europe long before they ever moved to Africa. They were often persecuted and fled Europe as religious refugees. Similar to the USA being founded by the Puritans. There are many Orania-like towns in the USA built by the Mennonites, Amish etc. and also many modern cults too. Some practice racial segregation others not. It's an interesting debate, whether such isolationism and fanaticism is ever legitimate or legal. They are taking care of themselves and thriving, not waiting for govt handouts or blaming anyone for their issues. But how does it align with the interests of the nation at large which they are still 'legally' a part of? And these guys are literally in Africa adding yet another layer. They don't care about blacks, but neither do our own governments lol
@@tombimashri8149 Most African 'royal' families are just as bad as our governments. They serve themselves and not their people. Makes me wonder what's the whole point...
That man wasn't "racist", he was telling you his experience. What would you have him do? Lie? Surely , that would be wrong and it would arguably be "racist". Actually you and your daughter have exhibited more "racism" than this man.
@@islyrevans295 You can visit and be treated well but only Afrikaners (and only those Afrkaners who qualify so no criminals for example) who hold their own cultural norms, believes and value system are allowed to live there. I don't see anything wrong with that, it's a privately owned town like any other privately owned business, admission reserved. Besides it's constitutional, our constitution allows for self-determination.
WHY...WHY...WHY !!! do people have such an issue with those who simply WANT to be with their own culture....? That is a freedom every person has an inherent right to. And they are successful, peaceful and humble. This is, if one has any intellìgence at all, the biggest problem facing the entire world at present.
I personally don’t have an issue with people wanting to be around their own culture, but when you have to destroy someone else’s culture to make it happen is when I have a problem. When blacks did that in America it was white people who bombed and murdered just because they don’t want to see black people thrive. We don’t mess with them I’m happy that they can build their community but for God sakes when black people wants to build theirs just leave us the hell alone. That’s the only issue I have. My question is why didn’t they build that whites only community in Europe why come to SA to do it.
Agree...if this one starts waking up and realize thatAlgeria, Democratic Republic of the Congo, Sudan, Libya, Chad, Niger, Angola, Mali, ethiopia cannot all fit into south africa. They will kill all our resources. So lady use your energy...go back to ethiopia and fix what is wrong there. Here in our country our problem is a corrupt govt who enslave 8.2 % of the population hit them with heavy taxes and utilize that not in the poor but on a selected few. Enjoy your holiday here, and should you migrate leave your racism behind
@@OlierOnah yip. They can and in fact did. Scotish people broke away from england to ma8ntain their sovereignty. Victory at the Battle of Bannockburn in 1314 proved the Scots had regained control of their kingdom. In 1320 the world's first documented declaration of independence, the Declaration of Arbroath, won the support of Pope John XXII, leading to the legal recognition of Scottish sovereignty by the English Crown.
Interesting that Ethiopia is one of the countries listed with greatest percentage of child labour, in fact almost 60% of children are put to work on farms and even mines.
Because she lives in Europe not in her own country..Ethiopia.. We hear the same crap in Europe.. They bring crime, destroy communities ( Sweden), they call all of us racists..In our Europian countries..Who cares how you look like? No more tolerance , deportation is the answer.. Those people like this lady, comes to peaceful town, don’t tolerate community values and blame people.. their life style.. Because they are .. white..? Who is the racist? 🇱🇹🇺🇸
@@KPate-y5z FGM. Spelt out for the less informed. Removal of the outer lips of the females genitals & often the clitoris, stitching it closed excepting for a small opening left for urination, performed for cultural religious purposes. What an unforgettable joy the wedding night must be for those brides.
@@stephanfourie6879 Africa don't do the race victim thing like Americans and British . They're not the ones hung up on it and making everything about it .
The blessed people of Orania have every right to live as they choose,away from the Anc of fraud corruption and greed.Its a very neat and clean town.I am a coloured and i enjoyed the friendship of those Afrikaaners i stuck to there rules and was well treated.Leader of the Patrotic Party led by Gayton Mackenzie can tell you more The Incompetent and Useless Anc can learn alot from Orania.May God Bless Orania.👍👍💯
Very beautiful topic you decided to embark my dear, power to you... I'm a black South African young man, 42 yrs of age. The gentlemen wasn't being racist with anything he told you about us black South Africans. He was telling the truth about us blacks, and him telling you as he did, he was right and that isn't something he should be judged or looked down for as being racist,he wasn't racists he was being truthful and I acknowledge him for that and respect him for being honest. Anyone having a problem with that, that is just a jealous and can't stand seeing anything beautiful in wat they can't have. That man was right
Do you know Winnie Mandela skipped being found guilty of burning "stompie" ??? No one disputes apartheid - that is why there is a museum. Do a piece on slavery in the States, and those who still carry memories.
Thank you for sharing Weyni! I hope the South African leaders will take note of the existing of “ a separate country in their own country”; very interesting!
Why. They bought the land and created business and a town which is clean and safe. Why can you not do the same? Are you not capable of doing this for yourself?
I am now determined to visit this successful community where everybody pulls it weight. Imagine that in 1961 when South Africa becomes a Republic, $2US bought R1 SA. Today after 30 years of ANC rule, $0.05 buys R1. This is not progress. This is devastating destroying the whole country and its inhabitants.
No whites were kept on Robben Island. White political prisoners were interred at Pretoria Central Maximum Security. In 1980 three inmates staged a spectacular breakout, using keys made from wood to overcome 10 doors. None were recaptured. Daniel Radcliffe plays the lead role in the filming of this escape - "Escape from Pretoria".
Maybe the black people need to do the same thing too. I don't see anything wrong with their model. People need to live somewhere and live in peace. This happened in other countries too 😭😭
@@dinaledi4085 just get land don't have to buy it. I'm a coloured person from Cape Town and my people don't have their own ancestral land and villages so I'm happy for thr Afrikaaners
Why did you go there if you knew what Orania is about. Those people keep by themselves and you went there and disrespect them. Who are you to come as a visitor and tell them how to live their lifes. I hope they never let you visit Orania ever again. All over the world you will get groups of people that keep to themselves. Leave the people alone and go back tk Germany.
We should stop calling this great and magnificent continent Africa as it was named after one of the Dutch colonisers. The correct name for the Continent is ALKEBULAN. And yes... you are correct, the Most High didn't want us mixing with the other nations anyway (Deuteronomy 7 vs 2-5)
@@KearnsMorris The Africans are the First Inhabitants of All Africa But if they are good guests they should behave We Africans are too tolerant but it seems that hatred has been coming from Europe for a long time See that the extreme right is growing in Europe
Tearing down the Oranian community will not make black people's challenge disappear. We should be learning from these Afrikaners for taking charge and dealing with their own challenges instead of waiting in vain for empty promises. They represent the fabrics of a successful society = community.
Some people are claiming to be black here and they are not. That is deceptive and disrespectful in the first place. Apartheid still exists in south Africa and only South Africa in the African continent. It is a shame. This will never exist in another African country. No one will allow it. Tulsa in America- they did not only destroy a thriving town that they segregated themselves but they murdered them. That is pure jealousy, ignorance and hatred. We black and brown people should learn from that.
Leave those people alone and do not try and tarnish them. They do not bother anyone. Instead we should learn from them as there is a lot to learn. Self respect, dignity work for yourself grow generational legacy work hard self there is a lot. Kudos to them
The first man wasn't a racist as you claimed. He was brutally honest and rightly so, the rate at which as blacks we self destruct is alarming. I don't support apartheid but, we must also accept responsibility other than getting offended anytime someone points out our individual failures.
Why is this foreign woman making a documentary on hard working people who just want to have a functioning country, why does she not make @ documentary on her country of origin!!
Don't be surprised the ANC is the one that negotiated that with white settlers before 1994 so it it is wise for people who want answers to ask ANC questions regarding that they are the ones who know what happened.
They ANC didn't negotiate anything. Like any other land available for purchase, it was bought and developed by the people that established the town. It is a privately owned town.
Why is it that apartheid is always a crutch for this govt failure. This lady said it, one of the most dangerous countries in the world, and Oranje does not have a police station..That should say it all.!!!
Orania had hands down the best quality of life, maybe in all of Africa. I'm as black as south Africans come. Anyone who disagrees has never had a mortgage for at least a decade, minimal education and probably still lives in the hood
They’ve accomplished a lot of growth and development in 30 years unlike our SA government. If you live here, you’ll know what I mean. I don’t say they are not racist, but we can admit their skepticism of the South African government and the way the ANC has run the country is clearly not without merit. SA is not flourishing, growing or developing its regressing. These people are the very least of our problems or issues, they only highlight to us what our politicians are doing wrong.
I agree our politicians are the makings of a horror movie...pure horror. Yet these people are also wrong, they MUST break down the barriers and embrace the rainbow nation, where no race is superior.
Seriously....do you not have much worse things to talk about???.
You people talk about things you have no idea about, everything they have accomplished is at the cost of the entire S.A. Nation don't ask me how, use your brain. It's a pity that most African natives still think the grass is greener on the other side than their own side. WHERE DID THE DESCENDANTS OF CAIN GO?!!!!
They are 'flourishing' due to number of reasons such looking after few people unlike the SA government that has the responsibility to look after everyone else including over 4 millions from other countries. Moreover, at large they still have the security of the main land as their area is in the middle of the mainland. Our Taxes keeps them safe. They export goods to other countries because the mainland allows them to do so. They are not a recognised country outside themselves. Many of them still make their living from near towns located in the mainland. Their source of living, the orange river, has its life in the mountains of Lesotho (black country) flowing through and nortured in the mainlkand. If the mainland can decided to have everything for itself, then orania will die. They deal with China because the mailnland allows them. Orania exits because we black peopel allow it to, we are struggling economically because we are for everyone. They ran and live in orania( part of the mainland) because they hate black people. They are a hateful group of people as they where hundreds of years ago when they formed the Oranje Free State to run away from the British rule in the cape and KwaZulu Natal. They tried to form this nonse hundred times before but failed. Many younng afrikaaners are living outsides this mentality.
I TAKE MY HAT OFF TO THESE PEOPLE
I am black and I wish we could be like these people,but we always want to blame Whites for our problems. The ANC has been in power for thirty years and everything is a mess.
Well said
Lets vote them out a d lets do it for the future
People live like that in rural areas.
Why do you not do what those people do? They WORK and do their own cleaning and building. Town s streets are clean. They do not do crime. Every person in that place WORKS and care for a future
You said it. Bravo
I am a black person. I think this separatism is based on a protectionism mind. If we may rather learn from this culture and introspect our behaviours, i believe we can make strong development impact within our black communities. Littering things everywhere, having contagious mindset towards good management, always promoting insecurity in our communities with rapes, house breakings, highjacking, stealing, murdering, drug, lazziness at work. Imagine a world without such? A small heaven? I guess we must learn and correct our shortcomings...
People claiming to be black before speaking against black people are always suspicious.
You spoke 💯
We are not stereotyped blacks control by myopic blacks
We can't allow this nonsense again in africa, we learnt there language since colonisation
We can't allow this nonsense again in africa, we learnt there language since colonisation
Orania is a perfect model for a working community, they are independant, they do not take hand outs from the goverment, they take care of their own in all spheres, medical, education. They have a municipality that works. They have no crime, they do not complain and get on with life. There is absolutely no reason why everything in life must look like a packet of licorice all sorts, if you go to China, Japan or the Congo there are many places where people stick to their own, even in Ethiopia, just imagine if every village in South Africa had this will of self determination, what a different place this would be. They are to be admired.
I work for an NGO ( most NGO'S are funded by European or American countries) and many white folk, often volunteers, work for them uplifting communities, creating jobs, taking care of orphans etc. But there are no whites living there in that sprawling community. There are several such areas all over South Africa. Those of us who work there travel several kilometres to work there. Probably everyone living there has a piece of land with a dwelling. Some dwellings are tiny but there are several mansions. I have no land of my own, but I don't bleat about it.
And that permits you to have your own currency and not paying taxes?
@@OlierOnah They don't pay taxes cause they don't get service from the government 🤣 It's pretty straight forward
@@OlierOnah there is no service delivery and our country is awash with sewage, days / weeks without water, blackouts ( miraculously not before the elections, but we
will pay dearly after elections. ) Health care decrepit. Potholes, collapsing infrastructure. It has become so bad that some rate payers are withholding rates from their thieving municipalities, creating an NGO and doing repairs themselves. So what would you do- especially as taxpayers money is used corruptly to enrich the connected?
@@funsidewithravenfury2852 so blacks in any European country can decide to have their own territory where only blacks are allowed in having their own currency?why then do Western powers fight themselves over islands in Faraway continents?
They turned a barren piece of land not much bigger than a large suburb, in the middle of nowhere into an international talking point and a desirable place to live? The rest of the country should be saying, how do we copy these results?
Just like the Israelis who was given a barren land and developed it in an oases.
That man is not racist, he is merely stating facts! What did he say that is not true? In 30 years the ANC and their cadres could not improve or maintain anything in RSA! Your kids are not properly informed if you didn't want them to hear what these people had to say. Colonialists are hated and used as an excuse for so many "hardships", but man, do we like the colonialists luxury, style, discipline, etc!?
An excuse ? This doesn't apply to india.
India was the richest country in the world before the British invaded.
Whites have been running the country from 1652,yry and get your facts right
You are wrong about black South Africans having a bad experience visiting Orania. I haven't heard one experience of local black visitors being treated badly in fact most of these people are impressed after visiting the place.
Walk into any place in South Africa with a negative attitude, and I am sure you will find something that you do not like.
I think the impression is that of the nice building not the racism inside a free South Africa. Something will change this nonsense better start admitting blacks in Orania or else you’re doomed.
@@cmavuso6068 Doomed for what? Leave the people alone they are not bothering you and it's private land that they bought. There are racism everywhere in the world and there are a lot of black racists in SA too.
Bought the land from who ?
@@EmmanuelBediako-yg8ne Thank you for this real question.
I'm not even SA but I don't think this guy's interview was far from the truth in his analysis. If there's no safety concern in Orania and these people enjoy living among themselves, there's no need to tarnish them as being racist because they happen to be of a certain pigmentation. It works for them, and this should be celebrated. Live your life and let other do the same.
Celebrated my foot.
@@LizoMtsolo-qd7wn The whole concept of tribalism is precisely about this. Something deeply rooted in African history by the way.
the host missed a very important point in her video - afrikaners were put in concentration camps by the british & had lived in fear they would be destroyed. a community like Orania (protected by the constitution and visited by mandela) was about preserving their culture + building things themselves. the Afrikaners have aspirations about being hard workers, ultra religious, independent - much like the Amish. its not about race and more about culture
They should do that in their own counties because they make sure in their own countries we don’t do as we wish but because they’re white they can do as they wish that’s kak
You clearly don’t know how these people operate. They don’t intend to live in the desert forever. Their plan is to move in enough whites to overrun the blacks and take over again. If you know anything about the leaders who they venerate, these people can’t live in peace with others. They can only exist by dominating and streaking from others. They’re the ultimate criminals calling others who never harmed them criminals. It’s a joke. They need to leave South Africa and back to Europe.
As a black South African, I really envy those Afrikaaners living in peace . ANC came as liberators in power for 30 yrs what did they do, left our beautiful country built by Afrikaaners in ruins which is absolutely disgusting. How I wish you had a chance to visited Joburg city you would have understood what I mean. So I don't blame those Afrikaaners who chose to live the way they are. Let them be left alone in peace if possible
The state of SA today is the cause of these same people you praise! Keep Kyoto yourself
Quit lying, you’re neither black or African, probably one of the settlers
U people are weak
Typical boers statement 😂😂😂
Whites have been in charge of South Africa from 1652, and not just for 30 years
Only place in SA that is thriving,orderly,crimeless and safe. NO unemployment,no loitering,no begging,no littering. Clean air,clean drinking water,no sewerage problems and soon no loadshedding....
Shocking to see that it is possible? Or maybe shaken by envy?
No matter how people try to see the good in it this in the eyes of almighty God it is sick because he gave the land to the African people not to the Invaders and you can rest assure according to the prophecies that he spoke in the book of Genesis concerning Africa and its people he will fix it the Bible says that God sits in the heavens and he laughs at the wicked for he sees that their day is coming, these people have a church and you cannot claim to know the Lord Jesus Christ and do such a thing and ouch the people from their own land and claim to represent Jesus Christ at the same time this is wickedness that has sugar sprinkled on it to make it palatable to a lot of people, every wicked empire great or small no matter how well organized it may be and no matter how it may be flourishing if God classified as wicked as sin then it will fall David said I'll be held the wicked they were flourishing spreading themselves like a Green Bay tree and then I looked for them and their place was no longer found so it will be with this town in the middle of the motherland with such conduct,it is a stench in the nostrils of God in the land especially with the garden of Eden was if you think that Africa is not special to God in a way that no other place on the earth is you have another thought common people of Orion if you look about you can see the change now in Africa God is moving forces human forces by his sovereign power and there is shifting there is a revolution there is change happening right now in Africa and almighty God is the mobilizing force behind it it is supernatural power that is causing black people all over the world to wake up and to take possession of what God gave them way back when he created Adam and Eve Hoover also black they will go from that land know if and sin butts
Absolutely 👌
WOW YOU PEOPLE. THE MENTALITY IS SPEECHLESS
The audacity 😢 social naarsicist white ppl not surprised at all the settlers are too comfortable now woooow
As an Asian man, I found her view is pretty interesting and confusing. The place is clean, orderly, no crime, no umployment, no drug , she said that in seemingly upbeat tone. But somehow the place is devilish.
Maybe a place somewhat dirty, day time crimes, people hang out by liquor store, open air drug dealing is more of a normal scenery in that part of the globe.
Maybe the White folks came in and made it clean, crime free, schools, businesses ...disrupting the normals.
Do you see my confusion ?
I am a black person, and I absolutely agree with this guy 💯 . In Africa everything is broken and destroyed. They don't want hight standard for their countries.
@zeinababdi4757
You are the very reason why "In Africa everything is broken and destroyed" because you fail to think!!
the host missed a very important point in her video - afrikaners were put in concentration camps by the british & had lived in fear they would be destroyed. a community like Orania (protected by the constitution and visited by mandela) was about preserving their culture + building things themselves. the Afrikaners have aspirations about being hard workers, ultra religious, independent - much like the Amish. its not about race and more about culture
Just look at the buildings in the inner cities in Johannesburg and Pretoria. Why don't you go to inner Soweto and see that the black people live in squalor, after 30 years of stealing, lying, taking white land. On 20 May 1983 the ANC car bomb injured me too,and other people too and now they are heroes. Please get ALL your facts before you call people names. And as a matter of fact slavery,specially set slavery is still going on, and the victims are getting younger and younger and are not only black. We all have some shame
@@lm_b5080 Read the video title once again and listen to what she she is saying. The video is not about Afrikaner history. In any case what's all this about "concentration camps"! Now the Afrikaner is the victim? It reminds me of a people who among others were victimised by nazis. Because they had a lot of political clout they were given a little land to settle. Today they still play victims yet they are the worst persecutors!! Were jews ever enslaved or sold into slavery and victimised politically, socially, culturally and economically like Blacks. Yet when Blacks speak of injustices they suffered they are called "cry babies" and told to work harder!! afrikaners are RAVING RACISTS Period!! They are digging their own graves. They managed to put clauses about their "protection" in the SA Constitution because back then they had the power. Mandela may have been the President but the army, police, judiciary - in fact the whole civil service was White controlled and no Black could fart without their approval. Lets see how long that will last!!
@@mariapetherbridge3116 So Black people STARTED living is squalor AFTER the ANC took power? Also remember one people's hero in another's terrorist!!
As a South African Indian, I applaud the people of Oranja. Not for segregation, racism, their views etc but instead for deciding to do something for themselves and their families rarher than sit back, moan and groan and complain about what hasn't been done. They created a community for their people to thrive in...very much like the Amish in America. Other minority groups should learn from this. Don't complain. Be proactive.
Go to India and create community there,did you forget about your caste system , that separate people ?
Why am I not surprised by this comment though
@@mzwandilemcandilemangqanga7578 No surprise here,it’s the truth, no country will allow apartheid to segregation
Why does it bother you so much. Nuns and Monks isolated themselves into enclaves for millenia and that is a cultural thing. So unless they are harming others why do you want to change them.
Go to Europe and isolate yourself , Africans do not segregate
..it will bother the True Racist...of which i see many here, all black..the rest gets on with life..
They can go back to Europe and live among their race
So blacks should accept white’s oppressions ?
Agree 100 percent
They are a religious/cultural group like the Mennonites. I’m a black 🇿🇦 but I see nothing unusual or wrong with these people. There is also nothing racist about them. They just have strong beliefs, which are fundamentally Christian. I’m sure if these were people of any other religion you would’t have such negative views about them. In SA there are also many China cities no one asks for membership criteria or their views about outsiders.
Regarding their statues, I challenge you to name one nation that was built by saints. Nations are built by worriers all over the world. These people honer the heroes who built 🇿🇦. Only the future new Jerusalem would be a holly city of God, beautiful sister. Enjoy our beutiful diverse country 🇿🇦😀.
Her own country has so much ethic and racial tension. Her ethnic group, the Tigrayans as well as the Amharas (the Semetic speaking Habeshas) not even 100 years ago were active in enslaving the very dark skinned Benishangul Gumuz people in Western Ethiopia and Gambella in Southern Ethiopia - they called them Shanquella and Barya which meant slave. Even today the Habesha will jokingly call family and friends who look more like African than Habesha they call them Barya (which means slave).
She obviously doesn’t do this as her mind is more enlightened but I guarantee she has family that does!
Not the best person to discuss this topic because if we are talking historical atrocities, Ethiopian Highlanders are full of them!
@sondisamnvemnyama, your'e misguided and don't even know what white racism and white SUPREMACY is all about, dont know your race or where you're from, imagine settlers coming to your land, grab hold of your land, create an Apartheid state and you the indigenous people of the land are not allowed in such neighbourhood. NONSENSE about practicing ones CULTURE and sharing VALUES, this don't and shouldn't prevent anyone from living amongst other communities. So all what this guy is saying about CULTURE AND VALUES are nothing but " Bull" and if you're are a indigenous SA African and you believe that what these people are doing is justify, you should leave SA and go into deep forest and live amongst the Bush Men, probably they could teach something!! Don't worry my sister, take my word, THE ALMIGHTY GOD IS GOING TO PAY THIS TOWN A VISIT, AND VERY SOON!! THE ALMIGHTY has his ways to let his presence be known amongst those Afrikaners who have committed GENOCIDES on his CHOOSEN PEOPLE. THE ALMIGHTY IS WATCHING!!!
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Tell them most of us South Africans dont see anything wrong while we are just hoping our country can be clean & crimefree. Everything that's happening in Orania, we wish South Africa could be that. Even with employment, law, and order and to feel safe. when walking around. We are tired of how this country is at the moment, and then Non South Africans want to tell us how to run our country. These white people had a plan than from running away and being foreigners in another country.
@sondisamvemnyama3476 Your problem is that you are still mentally colonised. You Black SAs, just like us across the Limpopo having voting for the same people who FAILED MISERABLY to deliver for decades. How then did you expect change? Politicians thrive on power, lies and greed and with your votes you empower them and make them worse. Be politically mature and change them every 5 or maximum 10 years, no matter how good they perform. Power corrupts and the more years politicians stay in power the more they feel entitled and invincible. Punish them at the ballot box and remove those who have served 2 terms then you will see change. And the most important of all is ACCOUNTABILITY which you must demand at every turn.
Truths, RSA nd Africa have bigger fish to Fry building Better Africa than focusing on Orania who bought their land outright nd build their place living with likeminded people.
I am black proud to be black orania is not a problem, problem is us blacks we fail to develop ourselves
Speak for yourself dude, do not include us in this. I know lots of black communities doing well for themselves.
💯 let's stop complaining about orania as if there is something special about it and focus on our communities, thanks dude 😀😀😀
Us??????????🤔
Sensationalist click bait title ....dont even have to watch the video .... what you found was a well run, crime free, working town inhabited by mostly Afrikaans people.... came all the way from Ethiopia to get some click bait ... you must be desperate!
You said this so well.
💯% correct
Ethiopia is in Africa, what do mean by came all the way from Ethiopia ?
@@EmmanuelBediako-yg8ne by road 6673.2 km. Beijing China & Berlin Germany are all on the same continent . Asian & Germanic white people. Get it...?
Talking about Africa, here you are all over China and Germany, focus is on Africa, not China or France
I am a black South African. What that man is saying about us black South Africans is 100% true. We destroy everything. I love everything about Orania.
100 percent we are a global joke.
But we always need someone else to blame even after 60 or a 100 years even down to why we kill each other etc
@user-xr7dh5mz4w Why do you destroy everything? I expect you to give reasons for it instead of just simple unsubstantiated statements Not examples of what was destroyed but reasons for the destruction.
Self h8er!
If u love orania maybe u could apply for housing there
I observe it's having a lack of expertise/experience but being in total denial of that fact....I am of the view that, things not maintained, wear out or get damaged due to the nature of life on earth...that's my 2 cents worth of analysis.@@rascocky6366
You are wrong my sister, they are not responsible for what their forefathers did. I'm a black south African and I think that if we can have more places like Orania our country would be a better and safe place. There is nothing apartheid about them, just people trying to protect they worked so hard to build
Clever black
You definitely not black
😂Jealousy makes u nasty! Only town in africa that works....
How many towns in Africa have you been to,just speaking from your butt hole
Go back to Europe and create your towns that work
Looking for publicity
Go and fix Ethiopia first before you come and interfere in things you little knowledge about.
@@zikusookasophiewamono4784 fuck ethiopia
South Africa isn’t a Black Country. It’s a country that belongs to all the people who lives in it. Black, white, coloured, Indian. Please get your facts straight before putting content out on the internet. Orania pays taxes to the South African government. Orania was purchased from the state and it was formerly used to house the people who built the Van der Kloof dam. After the dam was finished it became a ghost town. You obviously don’t know the Afrikaner history and you belittle people’s history. Paul Kruger was fighting against English occupation and colonialism. Knowledge is power and you find that in history books not the guy who puts petrol in your car. Educate yourself and go and check out The Penuel Show in Conversation with Joost Strydom
Before Kruger fought English colonialism, the San were fighting Dutch colonialism, the rest is history!
@planB-BacktoAfrica The San weren't fighting only Dutch colonialism. They were fighting the incursion of other black tribes from the East into their land. Ancestors of these San people live as ghosts there but are not acknowledged as First People with no benefit. I feel your views are popularist and European, with no African knowledge.
@planB-BacktoAfrica even before that there was Tribal warfare, Shaka slayed tribes who were short in stature and disrespectful to the Zullu kingdom, Lesotho became a country after they fled Tribal Genocide, Swaziland followed to UDI, The Zullu kingdom is also able to close it's borders and UDI secret meetings has been made and plans were made long time ago, Cape Town possible UDI, the Koi San UDI Boesmanland NC flag already exists, The Xhosas have been working towards the same UDI Dream, has been in talks with other similar African towns, as an educated Black South African unlike "yourself" we have no problem with Orania or any of the other many town seeking self determination as it's a human right, Constitutionally and protected by International Law, the last 6 presidents of this country has acknowledged that quote "SA belongs to all who live in it and from all walks of life" close quote, we respect each other and assimilate great without "FOREIGN interference"
@@Guess2know perfectly said Sir. I am white and not an occupant of Orania nor do I have family that stays there. It always amazes me that some people feel threatened by 3000 people of which 1000 are children who are living in a semi desert far away from anyone and anything just going by their own business, not asking for any handouts. Just let them be for crying out loud. They don’t harm anyone and I do find it amazing that they managed to do what they did in such a short period of time. I can’t help but feel that this TH-camr is a race baiter and she will put any nonsense out on TH-cam just to get clicks. War has been part of life since the beginning of the human race and long after we are all gone there will still be wars. It’s concur, occupy and rule. If any country can manage what South Africans did and unite despite of the past it’s nothing else but a miracle. The good people in this country is definitely not the problem only the corrupt politicians and some race baiters. I am referring to all politicians across the country.
@planB-BacktoAfrica The San were genosided by the Inguni peoples from the Great Lakes parts of Africa mostly.
Shaka an Inguni , who is the founder of the Zulu nation drove the San into the Maluti Mountains (Lesotho) and the deserts of now Botswana as they ran from being slaughtered.
The conflict between the Dutch, French and English settlers was a drop in the ocean of what the real indigenous South Africans endured.
Next time your caption must be THE ONLY PACE IN SOUTH AFRICA WITH NO CRIME, an independent place free from all the anarchy.
No crime? Racism is the crime!
Your title is totally wrong. Once again race baiting where there isnt any. Please remove #Apartheid as their town has fokkol to do with it. Also focus on the positive aspect of that community.FYI I'm not even Afrikaner. And why were you hidding your camera from them?
She is an instigator and looking for trouble
I am also not a true born Afrikaner, but converse very well in both languages. "Aparthied/Segregation"; call it whatever you like is unfortunately a term that erupted into the World and became a human source of creating one huge void between the two major White Sectors of people who live here in South Africa. Sadly to an extent it still survives, between the two White Sectors. (hatred is what I call it when applied) Maar kom ons wees nou eerlik, beide Afrikaner/Engelse Boere, werk saam in die landbou/Nywerhede ens., om ons tuiste van voedsel te voorsien. In van die Stede word daar seker nog so bietjie vrywing toegepas met sekere werks geleenthede tussen Afrikaners/Engelse, maar daar is bitter min Swartmense wat wel verantwoordelikheid kan aanvaar en om dit regverdig toe te pas/beheer. Basically we all want to live in peace and harmony among our own people.
Anyone has the right to self determination as granted in the Constitution and international law, being against this is racist, they are nothing bothering anybody, why do you force yourself upon them?
Based upon what God has said in the Bible there in the land illegitimately by the standards of god let's just set aside what people say for a moment and talk about the God who created Africa he has some things to say and if you're study the Bible you'll find out that this is even an abomination to him they have a church there and that's not the way of God not the Lord Jesus Christ that is not his ways that is dangerous to themselves how will you have a church and tell the people of the land they can't come into town and work and live there God is not in that at all it is something looking beautiful but full of evil on the inside it's like Jesus said they're like clean white cistens on the outside but on the inside they are full of Dead Man's Bones how will you have a church represented the Lord Jesus Christ and demonstrates such conduct this is the way of Satan.
Good question, leave them alone, at best learn from their example in building a community
Their philosophy of segregation, isolationism, while in a land predominantly African is the problem. Are you ok if white people in SA creating schools, restaurants, golf courses, clubs where black people are excluded just by making the joining fee or membership fees prohibitive to the majority black? That is not acceptable, even if they are not bothering anyone. The act of creating a system which by design excludes others is exactly the same as apartheid. Any of those Oranians who wants to come to any African village and build a homestead is very welcome, there is no law whatsoever that excludes them from doing it. Why are they creating barriers for others to joining the community?
@ragamuffin2433 not true. I enquired about building a house in Venda, but was answered as to why I wasn't simply living with other Afrikaners. That's the point here: People do tend to live with their own culture and there's nothing wrong with that. In KwaZulu-Natal there are huges swathes of land exclusively for only Zulu people. I am fine with that. Orania is extremely small, no reason to point a finger to them when black people in SA has large trust lands of their own.
Not in America
I am a non-white South African and i wish people would let the residents of Orania be, especially foreigners who have very limited knowledge of the plight of most South African citizens. Stop the criticism or save it for theSouth African government. I totally understand why they chose to live seperately and protect their values and lifestyle. Cudos to them. May God bless them.
It’s screaming self hate!
@@planB-BacktoAfrica ♥️🙏
As a non-white South African I'm sure our ancestors also wanted to left alone, but that didn't happen ne.
@planB-BacktoAfricaNo! You're telling lies to people. We as Soith Africans know the truth.
Orania is a great place. Yes it is safe and growing with no corruption, but mainly, it is a community that doesn't use / abuse another race to do their work. They work themselves, living their own culture without causing trouble for anyone else. It's literally the most balanced and healthy community in South Africa.
So what's the problem?They don't interfere with anyone and mind their own business.They go about doing their own things.Anyone can do this.
@@sanmogamgovender8393They can go back to Europe and do their own things, God did not put the whiteman in Africa ( The Garden Of Eden )
It not a white only town, it an Afrikaans only town. This means, even whites who are not Afrikaans are can't live there... unless they are willing to embrace the Afrikaans culture.
Just to add,not every afrikaner is welcomed there. To my understading they have to vet you in order to live there.
LOL yeah right. Let's try and make that ridiculous aberration going on in *SadAfrica* as tolerable and bearable as possible. The indignity of the situation after over 30 years of the so-called majority rule in SadAfrica desperately requires giving a positive spin to what's happening eh? Ok, Nkosi, Jabulani, Molefi, Thabo, Lethabo, Khumalo, Bandile, Bongani.. come have some (in)dignity, we need to help give that abhorrent situation in your 'homeland' a 'positive' twist. We say "it's not a white only town, it's just a teeny-weeny Afrikaans only town". Now that should do it. Nkosi, Jabulani, Molefi, Thabo, Lethabo, Kumalo... should all feel much better now. Case close. Meanwhile, does anybody know the date for the next nationwide campaign to hound/hunt/demonized the Zimbabweans, Congolese, Somalians, Nigerians and other African 'immigrants' in *SadAfrica* please? I mean who cares what the white settlers are doing when there are easy targets for black *SadAfricans* to harass, abuse, demonize, and ridicule? Amandla!
@smartaz4uNigeria is the biggest economy on the continent. They don't need to subhumanoids to function. But if you're dim-witted enough to send money, them it's on you.
So its still whites only unless you can show me black Afrikaans.
White Jesus is not the culture
ANC has been in power for more than 30 years. What have they done for their people and country ?? They have enriched them selves. From Uganda 🇺🇬
Whites have been controlling the country from 1652,try to get your facts right
As an African we should not blame white. They also need to feel safe. It is their right!
We also contributed greatly with skills and taxes to the growth of Africa!
Their Rights? Where were our rights when under the directive of the Christian Pope's of Rome,White Christians went the world over committing Genocide on all non-Europeans to take their land and push their adapted false prophet religion which was ours from the start ,which they used to deceive & control the peoples of the world. Africa was colonized in the North by White Turkic Ottoman Empire Arabs who falsely portrayed themselves as the original indigenous native people of Now Arabia. And the Dutch invaded in the South Claiming conquest of Black's native lands. Neither of which is indigenous to the Continent.
If they want to feel safe, why don't they go black to Europe ? They will be safe there, they're not AFRICANS.
@@sandraderoubaix734you don't contribute to the growth of Africa you liar, you stole everything from Africa.
I wish it was the same for blacks in Europe 😮
In Eastern Africa, such as Ethiopia there are discrimination against other Africans too. Don't shift the blame on the afrikaans because tribalism in Africa is endless and endemic.
We don't mind as long as it's our people
Europe has its own issues, yet they don't mind Russians, Hungarians, but black people. Europe for europeans remember?
@@RastaAfricanGentleman That's VERY SICK!! Those divisions and -isms have brought untold suffering to us GENUINE Africans. We hate, fight and kill each other then end up as refugees in other countries and YOU in your sickness dare to say we don't mind?!! The mind boggles! In the same breath we then hear of Pan Africanism!! what a contradiction.
@@Jj-jg6pw Who says they don't mind? In each different country there is some form of resentment at different levels to "foreigners" - meaning people coming from other countries(including other European countries).
@@RastaAfricanGentleman No as a black person I would not want tribalism or racism. Both result in human rights violations.
Those are people sharing the same values and are willing to live peacefully, and it seems to work. We should learn from them rather than diminish them.
Orania is a new Afrikaner cultural community. Afrikaners have been in South Africa for almost 400 years now. Orania should therefor exit. Respect that. They are NOT a threat to anyone. It is their contitional right. Article 235 of the contitution gives them that freedom and right. They are also protected by international law. That symbolizes TRUE diversity and democracy. The rest of South Africa has moved back to a real British-colonial state, where everyone is just measured by skin colour. Nothing deeper than that. New discriminatory laws has pushed Afrikaners and the Afrikaans langguage out of the system and society. South Africa is now also a colapsing or failing state, with strong communist tendencies. What dreams and ideals do you have for your own Ethiopian people? Schools, universities and other intstitutions should reflect your own values, language and culture. Not of some colonial oppresser! Why has most of Africa failed in doing so? We were oppressed in killed in consentration camps by the British colonialists. Over 30 000 women en children died in the most cruel circumstances. We know exactly how it feels to be oppressed, ignored and dicriminated againt. Look at places like Vlaandere, South Tirol, Katalonia, Quebec, kantons in Switzerland and federal systems elsewhere. That is how we should refine out political system in South Africa. The sooner, the better. We should avoid becoming real globalists and internationalists. They are a threat to stability and peace. Wordwide. Let's celebrate our different cultures and langguages. And i am definitely celebrating the existence of Orania! ❤
Thank you for your beautiful and true response 🙌🙌🙌🙌
Does westerners law let you give away your land to European minority?
@@seifubelayneh379 "Your" land?
Racist ideologies and separatism has no place in this world anymore. Israel and Palestine will never rest until Jesus come.
@@nic0072 The land is in Africa, not Europe
They bought and paid for the land. Its completely self sufficient. Its the safest area in the whole of south africa.
It's a model that should be copied and built in other parts of South Africa, if Boers can do it, Bantu and Xhosan can do it.
South Africa is extremely dangerous for Nigerians, south Asians, people from Zimbabwe, Albinos. And you accuse them of bigotry ?
Yes. simply, each doing it for themselves... and copying a good way of living , should have some sort of order in near future
Yeah I guess ethnic communities should just stop paying tax to the South African government, create their own currencies, create their own set of laws, expel anyone that doesn't follow their ideological beliefs practically secede from the country itself all while still enjoying free use of the country's transport infrastructure, security system, energy infrastructure, communication infrastructure, water systems, waste management systems, passport etcetera. I sure see nothing going wrong.
💯💯💯💯💯💯% CORRECT THAT IS THE ONLY PART OF SOUTH AFRICA 🇿🇦 BELONGS TO THEM OLNY SO NEAT AND CLEAN NOT A RACIST GROUP ,JUST INDEPENDENT FROM EVERY ONE LIVING THIER OWN LIFE BUILT THIER OWN INFRASTRUCTURE LOVE ❤ORANIA PEOPLE A GOOD EXAMPLE TO OTHER'S IN OUT OF ORANIA PEACE AND HARMONY WITH THEIR LIVES ❤❤❤❤❤❤
THEY BOUGHT THE LAND FROM THE STATE IT WAS A DESERTED NOW ITS A TOWN WITH PEOPLE LIVING AND MANY MORE..............LOVE ORANIAN PEOPLE ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Correction, the deaths in South Africa during the rule of Hendrik Verwoerd were a fraction of what they are today.
The joblessness as it stands now is something horrific and I do not want to mention the homelessness.
You would think ANC is responsible for that, corruption is unfortunate, but that is not the reason. Systematic colonial and apartheid structure are still at play. ANC cannot apply its mandate like land reform and other redress measures because Africa is held ransom by the colonial structures masquerading as 'investors confidence. If you knew who funds the political parties and decides what happens in the country, you would know exactly why SA looks the way in does
@@Muthundinne2.0 I know exactly who runs and controls South Africa and much of Africa, Baaskap never ended in 1994, it only took on a new perspective.
Let us remember that the ANC was only ever installed as a Proxy measure .
Cui bono!
Look what Orania achieved from scratch in 30 years in a small dusty place in the Karoo vs the absolute mess the ANC made in 30 years.
From which scratch and with which resources?
@@Noahjen2472 don't be stupid, go get an education and do some research!
@@IntegrationManagementit seems that you need education. Resources stolen by the apartheid government and given to the white population for 30 years.
You guys forget One thing about whites they are a minority -3% in SA.
The ANC took care of 90% of the population plus Zim, Moz, Lesotho,Swazi, Nigeria.....the rest of Africans it was a lot. Everyone is here...a huge mistake the ANC made by allowing our other african brothers.
But my piunt is white people only ever took care of their own ...the 3%
They weren"t invaded and kept their culture.
What a clean organised town! Nothing being burt broken down and lazy people sitting around not working. No beggars either. Great town.
I'm moving there to
Then look at the rest of SA.
Totally DESTROYED.
by WHOM.
Because where the white go they will send money to help built their place up where they came from believe me the white are going to,support each other the black get money but the goveronrnt take tge fund and built thier,houses and forget about the peoples and,I know the whites have,gas ,water and,electricity some African country have none while can't they work together as the whites please this the way I,see thing and feel Thank
What a wonderful project for a cultural recovery from the many years of oppression by the British and colonial conquerors of the African continent.. the afrikaner nation has stood up alone to rebuild its honour and dignity without the help of any other devisive and failed global cultures. Orania has proven that any single culture can nurture a pride that can build a glowing progressive economy out of the bare earth.. without any government interventions. Well done to the brave pioneers of this great project. Let us all learn from them and do the same smongst our own cultures..
Under the ANC SA is facing a dark time
Indeed.
Yes, seeing that the ANC and EFF are already practicing reverse apartheid by only appointing BLACKs ( not so-called Coloureds, Indians, Asians -never mind Whites - etc. ) to government posts.
Corrections ,izilungiso, uyaboniswa ,you see things alone Madiba allowed them to go they said they are going to Mozambique kanti you still here thanks Ethiopian girl hayi shame unesibindi I'm sure when you left they washed their town with expensive cleaning stuff!!!
Perhaps you should do a trip to Hillbrow and compare the two places?
Good point!!
I rest my case...need we say more.
They created Hillbrow and ran to Orania
@ragamuffin2433 yes indeed you are correct. They made many good things and left them in perfect working order....until the others took over and destroyed it all.
Amen.
Shared values are not only fundamental to the success of Orania, but for all societies that prosper
Madam visit kayalitsha too you might not get robbed and stop concentrating on apartheid like the anc gov
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 I dnt guarantee her safety at kayalitsha
Khayelitsha is a no go area
I want to see Black people establish even a fraction of Orania anywhere.
Your Orania is in Africa not Europe,did they bring any wealth or materials from Europe to build Orania ?
@@EmmanuelBediako-yg8ne I think generally our governments have also failed us in standardisation.
@@EmmanuelBediako-yg8ne For example?
If they did, people would call say "African's are committing genocide a genocide against white people".
He speaks the truth. We need to have renewal of the mind. We are destructive, always holding on apartheid. 30 yrs now has passed what have we done., except hating each other and killing each other? Hatred will not take us anywhere. We need to learn from others, and love one another. . We need to learn something from these people as a nation.
What we should learn from Orania is that, any human being can be a cleaner, can do any job. While anywhere else those jobs are reserved for blacks. If they can do it there, why not in any part of SA? We are all human, let's all live like human regardless. That's all we want if we want the world to be a better place for all.
Yes true, the Orania people specifically made a decision not to use other races to do "low class" work, as that would've be seen as belittling other races. No, Orania is actually the most anti-racist town you can get in SA.
The bigger question is how do we deal with the crime in South Africa? Let us not whitewash that!
People with full bellies don't steal as much as hungry people.
People who have a job and a purpose, don't steal as much as people, who see no future.
You have to fix the ecomony!
Their greedy, thieving and corrupt polititions are to blame,..
😂its can be fix by not putting criminals in power also not putting policies that's not protecting their people that's how our current government is lacking it's lacks leadership i hope anc looses big time this coming election they have destroy are beautiful country
@@ane-louisestampe7939 stop with the excuses! Do you think that there are no poor people of other races worldwide? Why is it that bc always lag behond others?
@@OpinionatedNomad That's what I'm saying. It's about the economy!
We've got poor people, but they are not THAT poor. We've also got rich people, but they are not obscenly rich.
Of cource we've got too much crime 🙄 It's just no where as bad here, as in countries, where the economic inequality is MASSIVE.
Peace and love.
Go lady and fix your country Etiopia and show us what you can do for poor Etiopin families ! Don’t criticize working community for their hard work! These people bought this land from government and created save communities! Orania ! no crime, no drugs, do not be jealous!
You are not African, go to your ancestors country
The envy in her heart is so obvious. I'm sure she'd want Orania to be just like all the other blac cesspool towns in S.Africa
There is no crime and drug abuse in Ethiopia. The GDP of Ethiopia is on the top 10 in Africa. The economy is in the hands of Ethiopians for the benefit of Ethiopians.
This is double standards and hypocrisy. I as a indian south African has also been engaging in hard work but my life was made difficult( torn down ) by white south Africans:
I was deliberately failed by a white south African at natal University
A white south African tried to perform a coup de tat on my business . She was a narcissist!
I had a white south african charge me with a fake harassment order. This was jealousy.
I also just wanted growth and I was minding my own business. This is evilness, AGGRESSION , rotteness and backwardness !
@@masvingozimuto - is that very inclusive? A country run for the benefit of its citizens?
What Oranje achieved is what we aspire to. The ANC has destroyed peoples lives especially the Colourds in this country. Their racist policies are. what keeps ideas like Oranje alive.
Orania literally started after apartheid. How the hell are you going to blame the ANC? The ANC fought apartheid.
I remember when I was a kid, not long before ‘94. We used to have milkmen missioning around in their little van things, i used to go put the empties and tokens out on the road side by the gate, a few hours later and fresh milk sitting there waiting. Not a soul would touch it. Thats was just in a regular jhb suburb.
Why is it safe there and not safe in Soweto?
Tell me please...which country ..does not have blood on its hands...😮 It is sad to be ONE-SIDED....
The only problem here is these people are not able to leave this little community alone .who are living peacefuly and minding their own business...
I wonder if in Holland there is any town like these for only blacks
This is Africans fault, nobody else.
Why is Orania so safe...obviously...LAW AND ORDER...WHICH A GREAT PART OF AFRICA NEEDS DESPERATELY.....
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@smartaz4u Africa is also full of descrimination..its not only a white thing,, Its a human problemproving our sinful nature,,,Jesus said ...LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOUR AS YOU LOVE YOURSELF....THAT IS THE STANDARD....
@smartaz4u OH! OK...NOW THAT YOU SAY SO,,,IT IS KIND OF AMBIGUOUS!
@smartaz4u Absolutely right...though sometimes sarcasm is the only way to provoke some people to THINK...
It's racist for trying to keep safe in SA.😃😃😃
The man you interviewed at around 19 min mark wasnt avoiding your questions! Your first question was answered by him saying that he does not have a victim mindset and doesn't want to focus on that! He'd rather tell you what they have achieved by their own hard work and how they have moved forward!
But sincerely I see no problem with this people, they did what should be learnt by us instead of branding them negatively
At least orania is safe,without sa murder rate
South Africans need to keep their eye on the ball and not allow foreign interference to rock the boat. Some African American thinking will not be good for South Africa; they will damage "The Rainbow Nation," by bringing their own bitterness to the table.
I don't see any problem with what they're doing. why can't black people do the same for themselves. we don't live in a utopian world.
Since you lack simple logic, allow me to explain as breifly as i can: Because this is the continent of Africa. So this cannot be done to the natives of that country and Continent, by people who are from a completely different country continent. This will be akin to Americans saying Native Americans cannot occupy certain places. They abolished that idea on the 1970s. You should be ashamed to even propose this.
@@magomanyaituga4573 yes native Americans can't occupy certain places even in 2024 that's one reason why they are on reservations. How many do you encounter in mainstream America 🇺🇸 on a daily basis - the real/actual native Americans - not the PRETENDINDIANS per Dr Urmar????
@@magomanyaituga4573Your totally right
@smartaz4u What you don't know, because you comment without doing proper research, is that in that area about 500 Black families lived there but were evicted/deported/uprooted back in 1991 and sent to some other different areas. that land was then "given" to Afrikaaners by the apartheid regime!! They want to preserve their Dutch culture? Simple! They go back to the Netherlands and practice it there and no one will say nothing to them.
@@rascocky6366 as a South African of colour I applaud Orania and am ashamed that neither the Coloureds, the Indians or the Black majority can emulate what they pulled off. Rather than criticize Orania, we should work on getting our own communities in check.
3 point. 1:what's wrong with shared values. 2: Show me a leader with no blood on his Hands, they are few and far between all across the world. 3. now go to Durban and walk around Inanda, Umlazi and citi center and you will learn something about values
He is not racist, but just highlighting the integrity of the blacks in this country.
Please Please leave them alone.
You've got it totally wrong! Orania and it's People pay INCOME TAX to SOUTH AFRICA! Please keep to the facts and stop the negetave insinuations!🙋🏼♀️
@renemalherbe197 Please provide yearly figures or a link to them. I tried google and different sites but I can't get anything on that.
I think I you want a white only city then go to Europe.
@@famousmwofficial8046 Where in Europe will you find a white only City. 🤭🤭🤭
@@famousmwofficial8046jealous much?
You no what is saying go back to were you come from @@Volvovic1
Recognizing and respecting the unique cultures and identities of different regions is important. Africa has its own rich history and traditions that should be celebrated and preserved. It is understandable to feel upset when outside influences try to impose their ways on a place that is not theirs. Communities need to come together and protect their heritage and values.
And no one talks about FARM MURDERS!!
May it stay this way, functioning and safe
Many of the early white European settlers (Dutch, French etc.) were conservative protestant Christians who practised isolationism and religious fanaticism in Europe long before they ever moved to Africa. They were often persecuted and fled Europe as religious refugees. Similar to the USA being founded by the Puritans. There are many Orania-like towns in the USA built by the Mennonites, Amish etc. and also many modern cults too. Some practice racial segregation others not.
It's an interesting debate, whether such isolationism and fanaticism is ever legitimate or legal. They are taking care of themselves and thriving, not waiting for govt handouts or blaming anyone for their issues. But how does it align with the interests of the nation at large which they are still 'legally' a part of? And these guys are literally in Africa adding yet another layer. They don't care about blacks, but neither do our own governments lol
But they do care for the Zulu Chief/King nd the villagers close to them. There's a vlogg about it
@@tombimashri8149 Most African 'royal' families are just as bad as our governments. They serve themselves and not their people. Makes me wonder what's the whole point...
Please leave Orania people's alone, the hardly bother anyone, they just building their own city in a land they bought from the government.
Mandela was not an angel either with his bombings in Pretoria, stop throwing bricks at glass houses.
Did your ancestors give him any other options ?
@@ZANDIJOHNSON two wrongs will never make a right...Look at SA now...worse than ever...come on...be honest...it will pay in the end...
If you don't like Nelson Mandela just leave the black land.
@@jahmelnerestant1942 l have never known land identified as Black Land...Oh God..do we have an identity crisis....what about Koi San land...
I totally agree with them because they don’t want others to fuckup what they got going on 👍🏿.
That man wasn't "racist", he was telling you his experience. What would you have him do? Lie? Surely , that would be wrong and it would arguably be "racist". Actually you and your daughter have exhibited more "racism" than this man.
Its not issue because they bought that land and managed to build it their own town
They build the land in their own town,and ur not allow as black because they see u just like before a nobody like in the apartheid times
@@islyrevans295 You can visit and be treated well but only Afrikaners (and only those Afrkaners who qualify so no criminals for example) who hold their own cultural norms, believes and value system are allowed to live there. I don't see anything wrong with that, it's a privately owned town like any other privately owned business, admission reserved. Besides it's constitutional, our constitution allows for self-determination.
What are you talking about....? You are completely beside the point, man, educate yourself please...
That man is not racist but talking the truth, any tangible thing in this continent is from outside.
WHY...WHY...WHY !!! do people have such an issue with those who simply WANT to be with their own culture....? That is a freedom every person has an inherent right to. And they are successful, peaceful and humble. This is, if one has any intellìgence at all, the biggest problem facing the entire world at present.
True so true .
I personally don’t have an issue with people wanting to be around their own culture, but when you have to destroy someone else’s culture to make it happen is when I have a problem. When blacks did that in America it was white people who bombed and murdered just because they don’t want to see black people thrive. We don’t mess with them I’m happy that they can build their community but for God sakes when black people wants to build theirs just leave us the hell alone. That’s the only issue I have. My question is why didn’t they build that whites only community in Europe why come to SA to do it.
Agree...if this one starts waking up and realize thatAlgeria, Democratic Republic of the Congo, Sudan, Libya, Chad, Niger, Angola, Mali, ethiopia cannot all fit into south africa. They will kill all our resources. So lady use your energy...go back to ethiopia and fix what is wrong there. Here in our country our problem is a corrupt govt who enslave 8.2 % of the population hit them with heavy taxes and utilize that not in the poor but on a selected few. Enjoy your holiday here, and should you migrate leave your racism behind
Can blacks in England isolate themselves, having their own currency and not paying taxes to the government? answer me.
@@OlierOnah yip. They can and in fact did. Scotish people broke away from england to ma8ntain their sovereignty. Victory at the Battle of Bannockburn in 1314 proved the Scots had regained control of their kingdom. In 1320 the world's first documented declaration of independence, the Declaration of Arbroath, won the support of Pope John XXII, leading to the legal recognition of Scottish sovereignty by the English Crown.
Interesting that Ethiopia is one of the countries listed with greatest percentage of child labour, in fact almost 60% of children are put to work on farms and even mines.
FGM is carried out extensively in Ethiopia on girls from 5 years old. Why doesn't this woman investigate that abomination and abuse of human rights?
Because she lives in Europe not in her own country..Ethiopia.. We hear the same crap in Europe.. They bring crime, destroy communities ( Sweden), they call all of us racists..In our Europian countries..Who cares how you look like? No more tolerance , deportation is the answer.. Those people like this lady, comes to peaceful town, don’t tolerate community values and blame people.. their life style.. Because they are .. white..? Who is the racist? 🇱🇹🇺🇸
@@KPate-y5z Let’s deal with the European looting and raping the African continent first, will take care of the other issues later
@@KPate-y5z FGM. Spelt out for the less informed. Removal of the outer lips of the females genitals & often the clitoris, stitching it closed excepting for a small opening left for urination, performed for cultural religious purposes. What an unforgettable joy the wedding night must be for those brides.
He who blames others has a long way to go on his journey. He who blames himself is halfway there. He who blames no one has arrived.”- Chinese proverb
Maybe you should visit a white squatter camp before you go back !!
There is no white squarer camp in South Africa. Nothing like that at all please dnt deceive us
Start with Munsieville,Sonskynhoekie....
You are not informed, their is more that 700 000 white people staying in squatters camps, more than 1017 camps.
@@stephanfourie6879 Africa don't do the race victim thing like Americans and British . They're not the ones hung up on it and making everything about it .
There are white sqattercamps. I am always sending them what I can, but other squatter camps come and steal from the white squatter camps
The blessed people of Orania have every right to live as they choose,away from the Anc of fraud corruption and greed.Its a very neat and clean town.I am a coloured and i enjoyed the friendship of those Afrikaaners i stuck to there rules and was well treated.Leader of the Patrotic Party led by Gayton Mackenzie can tell you more The Incompetent and Useless Anc can learn alot from Orania.May God Bless Orania.👍👍💯
you south Africans sounds confusing. you don't like eff anc BBQ an BBC what unuh whant that's the why white people feeding your woman to their pigs
Very beautiful topic you decided to embark my dear, power to you... I'm a black South African young man, 42 yrs of age. The gentlemen wasn't being racist with anything he told you about us black South Africans. He was telling the truth about us blacks, and him telling you as he did, he was right and that isn't something he should be judged or looked down for as being racist,he wasn't racists he was being truthful and I acknowledge him for that and respect him for being honest. Anyone having a problem with that, that is just a jealous and can't stand seeing anything beautiful in wat they can't have. That man was right
Ok Euro, whatever!
"Even Shaitan must have been jealous of their acts" .. pinnacle of the whole story.
We only want to live in our culture same as anyone else ...we love this ground and are here for the last 300 years ...
Do you know Winnie Mandela skipped being found guilty of burning "stompie" ??? No one disputes apartheid - that is why there is a museum. Do a piece on slavery in the States, and those who still carry memories.
Thank you for sharing Weyni! I hope the South African leaders will take note of the existing of “ a separate country in their own country”; very interesting!
Why. They bought the land and created business and a town which is clean and safe. Why can you not do the same? Are you not capable of doing this for yourself?
AND BY THE WAY, YOU ARE POST APARTHEID GENERATION ......WHAT DO YOU KNOW ???
I am now determined to visit this successful community where everybody pulls it weight. Imagine that in 1961 when South Africa becomes a Republic, $2US bought R1 SA. Today after 30 years of ANC rule, $0.05 buys R1. This is not progress. This is devastating destroying the whole country and its inhabitants.
No whites were kept on Robben Island. White political prisoners were interred at Pretoria Central Maximum Security. In 1980 three inmates staged a spectacular breakout, using keys made from wood to overcome 10 doors. None were recaptured. Daniel Radcliffe plays the lead role in the filming of this escape - "Escape from Pretoria".
Maybe the black people need to do the same thing too. I don't see anything wrong with their model. People need to live somewhere and live in peace. This happened in other countries too 😭😭
We have rural villages where only black people who belong to that tribe can buy land.
@@dinaledi4085 just get land don't have to buy it. I'm a coloured person from Cape Town and my people don't have their own ancestral land and villages so I'm happy for thr Afrikaaners
@@isaaccpt6643 They do have to pay a small amount to acquire the land. Its not just handed over for nothing.
@@dinaledi4085yes for sure, a very small amount...like a case of whiskey as explained by a co-worker I had?
@@dinaledi4085 do they have their own currency
This lady really likes to stir racist tension.. soo sad people can't just people live and let live. Jealousy makes people nasty
Racism exists and people must speak against it. There is no Jealous.
Why did you go there if you knew what Orania is about. Those people keep by themselves and you went there and disrespect them. Who are you to come as a visitor and tell them how to live their lifes. I hope they never let you visit Orania ever again. All over the world you will get groups of people that keep to themselves. Leave the people alone and go back tk Germany.
I'm agree to separate races No mixture races We will make Africa great again
We should stop calling this great and magnificent continent Africa as it was named after one of the Dutch colonisers. The correct name for the Continent is ALKEBULAN. And yes... you are correct, the Most High didn't want us mixing with the other nations anyway (Deuteronomy 7 vs 2-5)
@@lorrainewarmington5121 You are right The Africans are very tolerants to foreigneirs
@@bernardosa6690Just like Some western country's are tolerant to Africans
@@bernardosa6690 they have no choice. whether they were the first people here is very very questionable.
@@KearnsMorris The Africans are the First Inhabitants of All Africa But if they are good guests they should behave We Africans are too tolerant but it seems that hatred has been coming from Europe for a long time See that the extreme right is growing in Europe
How should we deal? Their existence does not affect anyone. Leave goodness and Godliness alone.
26:00 min, please learn about Mandelas past aswell, even his hands was not clean of blood .....
Before you put your disgusting thoughts out there...
Tearing down the Oranian community will not make black people's challenge disappear. We should be learning from these Afrikaners for taking charge and dealing with their own challenges instead of waiting in vain for empty promises. They represent the fabrics of a successful society = community.
Some people are claiming to be black here and they are not. That is deceptive and disrespectful in the first place. Apartheid still exists in south Africa and only South Africa in the African continent. It is a shame. This will never exist in another African country. No one will allow it. Tulsa in America- they did not only destroy a thriving town that they segregated themselves but they murdered them. That is pure jealousy, ignorance and hatred. We black and brown people should learn from that.
Leave those people alone and do not try and tarnish them. They do not bother anyone.
Instead we should learn from them as there is a lot to learn. Self respect, dignity work for yourself grow generational legacy work hard self there is a lot. Kudos to them
The first man wasn't a racist as you claimed. He was brutally honest and rightly so, the rate at which as blacks we self destruct is alarming. I don't support apartheid but, we must also accept responsibility other than getting offended anytime someone points out our individual failures.
At least they are looking after themselves in Orania and do not neg for grants from the ANC
Let them live the way they want; We live only once for God sake
No they must leave Africa
Why is this foreign woman making a documentary on hard working people who just want to have a functioning country, why does she not make @ documentary on her country of origin!!
Don't be surprised the ANC is the one that negotiated that with white settlers before 1994 so it it is wise for people who want answers to ask ANC questions regarding that they are the ones who know what happened.
They ANC didn't negotiate anything. Like any other land available for purchase, it was bought and developed by the people that established the town. It is a privately owned town.
everything is anc your car credit blame anc😂
Why is it that apartheid is always a crutch for this govt failure. This lady said it, one of the most dangerous countries in the world, and Oranje does not have a police station..That should say it all.!!!
Orania had hands down the best quality of life, maybe in all of Africa. I'm as black as south Africans come. Anyone who disagrees has never had a mortgage for at least a decade, minimal education and probably still lives in the hood