Rocky Point Holiday: The Cadets 1983 VS 2003

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  • This video allows YOU to be1983 the judge. Who performed Rocky Point Holiday better? The Garfield Cadets in 1983...or The Cadets in 2003!
    In 1983, the Garfield Cadets won their first Drum Corps International championship. In 2003, The Cadets placed 3rd place, less than 2 tenths behind The Cavaliers (Spin Cycle).
    Quick note on the scores I present in the video. The scoring in 1983 was different than in 2003. I had to calculate, based on the score they received, what that score would have been today.
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  • @paulblichmann2791
    @paulblichmann2791 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The 1983 arrangement sounds good bc it has the right brass roles. Mellos the hustle, low brass the muscle, sopranos the punctuation and the fire.

  • @wadeownley8149
    @wadeownley8149 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    The 2003 drill is incredible. They had 20 years to incorporate new ideas, and I think it is more pleasing. Musically... I think the 1983 version gives me more chills.

  • @mrl3129
    @mrl3129 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    83........ Jim primes arrangement with GF bugles unbelievable.

  • @StGeoRUSH619
    @StGeoRUSH619 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    FMM--The Cavaliers 1977-1987 (Baritone/Contrabass) 1983--All day, every day !!! As a horn player, I wore out my DCI finals tape with their show on it, trying to play '83 Garfield's whole show. Their drill was stellar and groundbreaking... truth be told, between 1983 Rocky Point Holiday and the Z-pull at the end, and 1987's dissolving company front, I still get goosebumps. SPLOOIE-4-Life (and beyond)

  • @toddcurry3448
    @toddcurry3448 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    1983 for me. Too bad the available camera footage missed so many of the cool drill formations and movements. You only catch brief glimpses of them as they are ending or changing over. This show changed Drum Corps forever moving forward.

  • @mdplez
    @mdplez 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I very much enjoy and appreciate the 2003 remix, but the original '83 version gets my enthusiastic vote. I wore that poor DCI cassette tape out listening to Garfield's show over and over and over again. And literally every time: chills and goosebumps!

  • @thomasosborne8579
    @thomasosborne8579 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Overall, both are excellent! The ‘83 drill was revolutionary. The percussion writing and performance execution of 2003 was great; A very musical and complementary book. This is always fun to watch and listen.

  • @scott414b
    @scott414b ปีที่แล้ว +3

    loved both, but have to go with 83, it was groundbreaking of what the cadets were doing that year, nothing was expected of any east coast corps, then comes RPH and the crowd goes nuts!! East, East.....

    • @mholub
      @mholub 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Great year for us!

    •  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We all saw it coming in 82!

  • @voiceofreason9238
    @voiceofreason9238 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    1983. I followed the circuit that year and saw them ten times including finals. It was goosebumps every time with standing ovation everywhere I went.

  • @samsignorelli
    @samsignorelli 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    RIP Cadets.

  • @henryhaydenii9779
    @henryhaydenii9779 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    1983 Cadets was THE game changer.

  • @andrewbos8837
    @andrewbos8837 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2003 couldn’t be great without the mind blowing show of 1983….. grateful for both!!!

  • @peteramura
    @peteramura 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    3:06 solidified their 1983 Championship - the Z-pull! My vote is 1983. The horn score complexity was unmatched.

  • @johnflorio3576
    @johnflorio3576 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    That piece was MADE for G bugles! I’ll take 1983.

  • @bigwadds1
    @bigwadds1 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    1983 by far the best 🙂

  • @k_zildjian4460
    @k_zildjian4460 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    '03 was technically better, especial drumline. But the "83 show elicits an emotional response from me ever time I hear it. If that show does not give you goose bumps, you don't have a pulse.

  • @scvanguard1
    @scvanguard1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    83 without a doubt. So groundbreaking.

  • @artjock47
    @artjock47 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    1983 - all day long.

  • @lrcopcoop
    @lrcopcoop 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    1983 score seemed to flow a little better. The creative concept of the 2003 drill is really cool. I would have to vote 1983!

  • @slotwhiz1
    @slotwhiz1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    1983

  • @wadeownley8149
    @wadeownley8149 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    First of all... thanks for putting this together.

  • @tfoz2235
    @tfoz2235 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    83 is way better. More hits. Its driving, pulsing. It flows. It creates anticipation. 2003....great addional front ensemble additions. Overall, 83. I wish they would have just copied it in 2003.

  • @gregbeagle2812
    @gregbeagle2812 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    83 all the way!

  • @jacksonhall3151
    @jacksonhall3151 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    2:52 legendary

  • @prestonjones20013
    @prestonjones20013 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    2003, what an incredible year. The top 4 we’re all unbelievable

  • @isiahrowser
    @isiahrowser 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Classic ❤❤❤❤❤

  • @jonshannon7096
    @jonshannon7096 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Audio 83
    Visual 03
    Jeff did a better job than George! Hard to believe, yet, 83 will give you goosebumps 03 is just a better incorporation of ideas.

  • @johncraig4820
    @johncraig4820 ปีที่แล้ว

    1983 Cadets were revolutionary. It holds up very well, but 20 years of innovation the art has advanced to much to call it better.

  • @paulblichmann2791
    @paulblichmann2791 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If you didnt know 1983 when you heard 2003, it wouldn't have sounded like much.

  • @mrl3129
    @mrl3129 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    83 follows the original score a whole lot better than 03 03 sounds like watered down fluff to me

  • @toddmink5559
    @toddmink5559 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    83 by far!

  • @michaelhughes1504
    @michaelhughes1504 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The camera work was certainly better in 03!

  • @gheilers
    @gheilers 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The better, is 1983, of course. After all...G Bugles!

  • @ianzalamea1457
    @ianzalamea1457 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think 2021 was the best :P

  • @nigelgreen3516
    @nigelgreen3516 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    1983 much more of the original score and emotional performance.Brass sound much better.

  • @slotwhiz1
    @slotwhiz1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    BOTH!! ALL DAY LONG!!!!😄

  • @enewhuis
    @enewhuis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    '83

  • @jasonbuckingham2864
    @jasonbuckingham2864 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    1983 set standards, full stop. From every aspect, the musical writing, the drill, and most significantly to me- BRASS PERFORMANCE. As a student of Donnie, Jimmer, and some of the members and staff of this group namely Shorty Barthomew and Barbra Moroney; the 83 corps set standards that would only be bested by the same group of people at Star of Indiana. 2003 sounds pretty good, but their are too many ragged phrase endings and an untidiness that is disappointing. 2003 did not live up to that 1983 standard, from a performance standpoint. 1983 set the direction for musical clarity for the next decade. Sadly it is an approach that has been abandoned in favor of the beige, overly thick orchestration, non-music based organized sound that is the hallmark of the modern drum corps.

  • @luvspaiste
    @luvspaiste 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Neither. 1982 was best.

    • @scvanguard1
      @scvanguard1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Loved the 82 show. Only thing better was the crowds reaction when they jumped from 5th to 3rd.

  • @ThePMcDonald
    @ThePMcDonald 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Anyone who thinks either version is "incredible" needs to realize that Cadets NEVER had the courage to perform "Colas Breugnon Overture", perhaps the most difficult composition ever staged by a drum & bugle corps ...

    • @voiceofreason9238
      @voiceofreason9238 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Uh, so?

    • @DevinEsleck
      @DevinEsleck 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      This can’t be good because another thing is hard!

    • @mrl3129
      @mrl3129 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You're completely lost this isn't about your hookah bunger dunga crap

    • @briantuma1502
      @briantuma1502 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      1985 Cadets and Bernstein’s Jeremiah Symphony would like to have a word with you..

    • @scvanguard1
      @scvanguard1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’d argue 27ths Niner-Two from that era was even more difficult.

  • @buzzconnor1921
    @buzzconnor1921 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I really miss the sound of the G bugles ...that's drum and bugle corps...

  • @katkea5404
    @katkea5404 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1983