The boaters access Lake Winterset through the Chain of Canals system, so legally anyone can use the lake if they go through the canals. There are no public boat ramps, so the homeowner in the news story is TECHNICALLY correct, but LEGALLY they can’t stop anyone from using the lake. If you’re a boater, you cannot lawfully enter onto any part of the shoreline there or any permitted structure abutting from the shoreline, which includes docks, bulkheads, floating docks, boat ramps. The bad behavior of boaters is disappointing and reflects a serious, callous lack of respect and disregard for private property. At the same time, the homeowners need to understand they don’t own the lake; it’s a public resource. The noise and use comes with the sunshine and the view.
You may also not be able to anchor, but most fishing boats are always underway or drifting, so there's really nothing that the land owners can do beyond forbid the use of ground tackle on their bottom-land.
@@georgecurtis6463 Id be saying something to them myself about being noisy. I just hate when its just people fishing quietly who end up not being out there. I know I always end up with found trash in my pockets on a hike, probably those quiet fisherman do the same. I cannot stand hearing music over the water though. Drives me crazy
@@D4nnypery I live in GA and fish the Altamaha river almost exclusively and I hate seeing trash on it. We always carry a couple extra trash bags for the beer cans and other crap the party people leave behind. Hell theres alot of people I know who do the same thing but theres always more trash. We take home plastic barrels, boats, coolers, fishing gear, camping gear, plain ole trash and even a freezer once. We get maybe 2% of the number of people yall get down in FL so I can just imagine the mess that gets left behind and the frustration it generates
As long as the boaters don't step onto private property they are not trespassing. Nobody owns the water. I've been a fisherman for 60 years and what pisses me off about a lot of my fellows is the fishing line and trash they leave behind.
The boats shown as a part of this story are predominatly bass boats which are strictly policed by tournament officials and all tournament organizations ban the use of alcohol and narcotics. Get the story straight or at least show those who are actually at fault.
Just how stupid are you? Do you not realize that anyone can buy a bass boat if they can afford it? People are not "strictly policed" as you put it, by tournament officials unless they are part of the tournament. Seriously, you have to be extremely dumb to need that explained to you. I own two bass boats and I wish a clown like you would try and tell me I have to follow bass tournament rules and regulations in order to use my boat. You would be swimming with the fishes.
I don't know about you, but when I was a kid we took my buddies bass boat everywhere, it was the main boat we had access to. Used it for transportation, wakeboarding, fishing, anything we needed a boat for, no one was policing us at all. 16' with 150HP, more than one near death experience in that thing as kids..
I didnt see a single bass boat fishing in a tournament in this news story. So if you're gonna talk about something at least use something factual. I can own a bass boat and fish from it even while a tournament is going on and the tournament officials wouldn't be able to do a damn thing if I wasn't entered into that tournament.
Nobody owns the air but you can't go on their land or they're lake to breathe it. It's a private lake and the only way it could ever be public is if the government put fish in it.
Trespass? Yes, get those that do, but the lake is public so no, stop harassing boaters . Just because you bought a house next to a lake doesn't give you ownership of said lake.
Private Property Owner If the lake is situated completely within the land's perimeter, then the owner of the land also owns the lake. The lake is considered to be private property, and the owner can do with it as they wish.
@@John-cg8hb The news people did a poor job of reporting on this. There doesn't have to be a ramp on the lake because the lake is connected to other lakes that do have ramps. The lakes are connected by canals.
All I wanna know is why a bass angler in bass boat was the type of boat/boater y’all chose to feature for this? The problem being described on that lake is not caused by a dude in a bass boat I promise you that! Make sure y’all keep those “classless boaters” separate from us.
I live on Lake Maitland and I fully understand that it's a public lake. I wish when the bass fisherman hang up on my dock they would come and get it. I stepped on a lure barefoot and hooked myself. I understand if I leave small chairs out they will disappear. It's not the end of the world. Those fisherman they showed in the article I guarantee are not playing loud music. The residents need to chill out...
Where are the game wardens? You can’t own the water boaters have the right to be on the lake. The problems with drunkenness, trespassing on the docks and land, the littering, noise issues are all issues that game wardens need to enforce. The reality is they can’t be out there 24/7 so my advice to people living by the lake instead of immediately wanting to infringe on peoples freedom on a public waterway move somewhere else if it’s bothering you that much.
Please do a follow-up story and ask her to provide a land survey showing her property line. I guarantee it stops at the wall. It is like someone complaining that a road goes in front of a house and then going to the news asking for the road to be shut down.
All lakes in Florida besides ones in private developments are PUBLIC PROPERTY !! No one owns these water’s except all residents of Florida. Overdeveloped has caused the problem of not being able to sit on your precious waterfront property with peace and quiet.
So you show a bass boat with 2 people in it, not really a party boat. I'm thinking these Karen's don't like people on the lake fishing. Where's the party boats. I've had this type of Karen yell at me for fishing around her dock. They think they own the water when they own a house on the water.
Unfortunately it’s a navigable waterway. If they’re not trespassing on private property, then it’s no different than them being on the street. You CHOSE to buy a house on a public lake… so therein lies the problem.
On one hand, I feel for them, the public sucks and crowds trash everything. On the other hand, just because they built a house on a lake doesn't mean they own the lake. But the public should not be trespassing on private land. I do have empathy for them, not sure what the solution would be other than a lot of general law enforcement on the water to clamp down on drunks, trash and trespassing.
No. It is legal for people to use the lake and operate boats. It is not legal for people to exit their boats and get on dry land anywhere on the shoreline of this particular lake. All of the shorelines are private property. There's no public parks or marina services on the lake, only private property. Apparently, there is a canal into the lake that connects to another body of water that has a public boat ramp. People are sitting in their boats, drinking and eating. Eventually, they get desperate for a place to relieve themselves.
Reminds me of the Californians who bought all of the property on the Mckenzie river, east of Springfield, OR, in the late 80's.... They tried to stop the driftboat fishermen from fishing in the river from their boats.... So lucky when the Calfornians come to YOUR town.......
I had this problem I was walking down the middle of a creek trout fishing in a Pennsylvania state stocked dream and a guy came around me telling me to get off him property I said u don't own the stream he said if I don't leave he's gonna move me I said well ok move me he attacked me so I kick his ass that's how these people should handle this
Here in FL it's the NY and NJ people. I was fishing with my family when some rich NY transplant came down screaming about her pet fish and her water, and starting spraying the garden hose at us. We knew we had the legal right to be there so we didn't back down either and I was really getting concerned where it was going to end up. The sandbar across the channel was getting busy so a marine patrol came by and we flagged him down and first verified with him that my understanding of the law was correct (no private person owns the water in that location), then explained what was happening and he was nice enough to come have a chat with the lady. If looks could kill she would have killed us all, but she didn't bother us anymore. But it also ruined the fishing spot as that's no longer a pleasurable place to take my family fishing.
@Constitution Cowboy Does your mother have any children that aren't stupid. You should check lawyer's opinion such as this one. Private Lake means a lake owned by a private lake association or similar organization, or a lake to which access is not provided to the general public.
But note that the general public has no rights to the recreational use of a private lake, such rights being exclusive in the owner of the bed. Baker v. Normanoch Asso., 25 N.J. 407 (N.J. 1957) A natural, nonnavigable inland lake is the subject of private ownership and since the bed of such lake is private property, the public has no right to boat upon its waters. An injunction may be allowed to restrain the unlawful use of such a lake. Similarly, the rule which is applicable to lakes is likewise applicable to ponds artificially created by the damming of a stream.
I wouldn't want to hear those boats all the time either and that's why I'd never buy a house on the lake, they should have known it would like that.. it wouldn't bother me if someone peed in my yard either, just sayin but the littering would be a problem for me.
Karens thought they would have it all to themselves I hate having to look at overbuilt houses and manicured lawns when I go out to enjoy the PUBLIC and natural beauty the lakes have to offer ALL citizens.
Federal Water Access Law prohibits anyone from owning navigable water. The boaters are in their full right as long as they access the water from any navigable waterway.
Not a single pic or vid of the boats and partiers? Setup some speakers in your yard facing into the lake - when partiers park their boat, start blasting opera and classical music. They'll move on.
I'm here now close the door behind me mentality is absolutely outrageous in this country. Most of these idiots never stopped to do their homework on the laws concerning waterways in this country.
I'm pretty sure that you don't have to do a lot of homework to know that someone coming onto your property to pee and poop in your bushes is illegal. Once you touch dry land or some's dock, you are trespassing. That's the issue that they are trying to address, not the fact that boats are on the lake. Littering, public intoxication, and trespassing are all illegal even if you have a legal right to operate your boat on a waterway. I'm not sure if you took the time to watch the whole video?
There are TH-cam videos of people partying there. The reason they go to that spot is there's a spring there and a sandy bottom which makes it the best place in the chain to swim.
Imagone being upset that you knowingly bought a property that allows public use for anyone on the adjacent water and then being upset that you bought the property with those exact terms you have to live with, hmmm, just imgaine the gull of those boaters who won’t give up their water rights to the land owners.
Imagine commenting on a video that you apparently have not actually watched. They are not complaining about the boats on the water. They are complaining about the fact that the boaters are coming onto dry land, which is private property, to piss and crap in people's yards. They are complaining about people who are cutting across private property to join people in their boats. They are complaining about the boorish behavior of public intoxication and littering. Yes, boaters have a right to be on public waters. No, they don't have a right to enter private property adjacent to public waters. No, they are not exempt from laws regarding public intoxication, operating a watercraft while intoxicated or littering.
residents don't own the waterways-where i live(tn) if you don't contact their property physically those karens complaining can't interfere with your recreational use or the waterways or they are the ones breaking the law
I would expect some results for $8,000 ... maybe they could get some action with another $8,000 to the mayor's election funds and another $8,000 to the prosecutor's office. Then sit back, film the sting operations, post them on platforms, get monetized and continue the cycle.
I have a fishing shack on a point on a lake in NC. The parking is limited especially on weekends. So when someone new buys a place on the point we initiate them. We throw them a big Welcome to the Point party. Everyone’s house is open for the nosy ladies to walk through and we get them drunk AF. It’s hard to get pissed at somebody about their boat trailer being in your parking spot when you come in late at night or about parties that go on all night once you’ve been in their house and partied with them. Lol
It's been awhile and probably should be fact checked but this is what I remember . I'mRead about navigable waters in fact . These folks have riparian rights but they cannot exclude people from these waters . But they cannot step foot on private land above the high water mark in non tidally affected waters . If you read about the history of the Internal Improvement Trust Fund here in Florida you will see property rights have always been corrupt . The sovereign does not own the lake but it holds it in trust for we the people .
And to clarify a bit . The state has title to the land beneath navigable waters when the state became a state . It is held in trust for the residents of Florida . The waters ( and probably the fish and wildlife ) are a resource that we all own but is managed by the state for us .
The issue raised by the property owners is the fact that the boaters are, in fact, entering their yards to use the restroom and allowing their dogs to do the same. It also sounds like people are cutting across private property in order to meet people on boats (who did legally enter the lake). Once you touch dry land or a dock, that's trespassing. Additionally, the boaters are leaving a mess of discarded items in the lake, which is illegal.
@@michaelduffee6402 absolutely correct , as I stated these folks cannot step foot on private lands . Unfortunately you are correct about the garbage . I pick it up wherever I go . Very sad .
You can't own water ways. It's public. The fact that there isn't a boat tamp for the public, should be what this news station is focused on. The fact that their isn't a public boat ramp is why these people think they own the lake. Petition wintehaven for a public boat ramp, because it should already be in place.
They should have shot this piece during the weekend to get the entire picture. Showing a couple of guys out fishing just minding their own business made the homeowners look bad.
If it's "Navigable Water" then the homeowners can't stop people from boating on the lake but stepping off onto private property is not allowed. Some people think they own the Lake.
All lakes are property of government, there should be a government boat launch area and sufficient parking. Unless the lake was privately dug out by a privately owned company/owner
The entire lake is surrounded by private property. It’s connected to other lakes there by a canal system, which the boaters access the lake through. If the public wants, a petition can be started to get a referendum on the state ballot to have the Winter Haven city government, the county government or the state government to exercise imminent domain to have property condemned to install a boat ramp because it’s in the public’s interest. These homeowners need to be careful of griping too loudly or some citizen is going to mobilize the public and get a boat ramp installed.
@@guyondotteoreilly4355 Absolutely and that is the problem, there was NO public access provided to the public lake !!! Somebody screwed up years ago !!!
The boaters access Lake Winterset through the Chain of Canals system, so legally anyone can use the lake if they go through the canals. There are no public boat ramps, so the homeowner in the news story is TECHNICALLY correct, but LEGALLY they can’t stop anyone from using the lake. If you’re a boater, you cannot lawfully enter onto any part of the shoreline there or any permitted structure abutting from the shoreline, which includes docks, bulkheads, floating docks, boat ramps. The bad behavior of boaters is disappointing and reflects a serious, callous lack of respect and disregard for private property. At the same time, the homeowners need to understand they don’t own the lake; it’s a public resource. The noise and use comes with the sunshine and the view.
You may also not be able to anchor, but most fishing boats are always underway or drifting, so there's really nothing that the land owners can do beyond forbid the use of ground tackle on their bottom-land.
But there are noise laws. So the noise they are making is illegal. Just the cops being lazy.
@@georgecurtis6463 Id be saying something to them myself about being noisy. I just hate when its just people fishing quietly who end up not being out there. I know I always end up with found trash in my pockets on a hike, probably those quiet fisherman do the same. I cannot stand hearing music over the water though. Drives me crazy
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@@D4nnypery I live in GA and fish the Altamaha river almost exclusively and I hate seeing trash on it. We always carry a couple extra trash bags for the beer cans and other crap the party people leave behind. Hell theres alot of people I know who do the same thing but theres always more trash. We take home plastic barrels, boats, coolers, fishing gear, camping gear, plain ole trash and even a freezer once. We get maybe 2% of the number of people yall get down in FL so I can just imagine the mess that gets left behind and the frustration it generates
Why are there no pictures of the boats partying?? If it happens all the time, then surely someone has documented it.
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And….we paid $8k for deputies but the boaters are getting increasingly hostile……hostile towards the deputies but again no pics
My thoughts exactly
Yeah, we want BIkinis pictures.....
They are all holding phones yet no footage of debauchery boating. Cmon Karen Share the Lake already.
As long as the boaters don't step onto private property they are not trespassing. Nobody owns the water.
I've been a fisherman for 60 years and what pisses me off about a lot of my fellows is the fishing line and trash they leave behind.
I’ve seen you throw trash all over the place
As usual, the news media only did 1/2 the story.
@@pelletslinger9869 that access via canals means it’s publicly accessible. You don’t own the lake at all.
Wait a minute. You mean I buy a house on a lake and I have to put up with boats ?
And you get party
Lol right
@@wesley1983 Party at yours?.Send dets.
Karen will call the police on you...
thanks ABC for Karen's side of the story now come out on the weekend so we can see the real truth
"Karen's" side...hahahahaha... exactly what I was thinking !
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Why is she a Karen, just because she doesn't want someone shitting in her yard?
Walking onto private property, no can do. Boating anywhere on the lake? It IS a public resource.
"its spring break every weekend", welcome to florida.
The boats shown as a part of this story are predominatly bass boats which are strictly policed by tournament officials and all tournament organizations ban the use of alcohol and narcotics. Get the story straight or at least show those who are actually at fault.
Just how stupid are you? Do you not realize that anyone can buy a bass boat if they can afford it? People are not "strictly policed" as you put it, by tournament officials unless they are part of the tournament. Seriously, you have to be extremely dumb to need that explained to you. I own two bass boats and I wish a clown like you would try and tell me I have to follow bass tournament rules and regulations in order to use my boat. You would be swimming with the fishes.
I don't know about you, but when I was a kid we took my buddies bass boat everywhere, it was the main boat we had access to. Used it for transportation, wakeboarding, fishing, anything we needed a boat for, no one was policing us at all. 16' with 150HP, more than one near death experience in that thing as kids..
I didnt see a single bass boat fishing in a tournament in this news story. So if you're gonna talk about something at least use something factual. I can own a bass boat and fish from it even while a tournament is going on and the tournament officials wouldn't be able to do a damn thing if I wasn't entered into that tournament.
Part of living on a lake. Nobody feels sorry for you that people make noise on the water.
Say it louder for the people in the back
You don't own the water. Once they're on your property that's a different story.
You dont either TARD
Thank you!!!! Tha hell 😮
The HOA could be the owner. If you aren't part of it and don't have permission from someone who lives there or the HOA itself you are trespassing.
Nobody owns the air but you can't go on their land or they're lake to breathe it.
It's a private lake and the only way it could ever be public is if the government put fish in it.
@@CM-ve1bz hit that pipe again
Trespass? Yes, get those that do, but the lake is public so no, stop harassing boaters . Just because you bought a house next to a lake doesn't give you ownership of said lake.
If there's no public ramp it's not public.
Private Property Owner
If the lake is situated completely within the land's perimeter, then the owner of the land also owns the lake. The lake is considered to be private property, and the owner can do with it as they wish.
@@CM-ve1bz wrong, all bodies of water are now government property, including those you build on your own land
@@John-cg8hb The news people did a poor job of reporting on this. There doesn't have to be a ramp on the lake because the lake is connected to other lakes that do have ramps. The lakes are connected by canals.
@@tclem44 I saw a lot of boats. The complainers have docks and boats. How did all those boats get into that lake?
All I wanna know is why a bass angler in bass boat was the type of boat/boater y’all chose to feature for this? The problem being described on that lake is not caused by a dude in a bass boat I promise you that! Make sure y’all keep those “classless boaters” separate from us.
I live on Lake Maitland and I fully understand that it's a public lake.
I wish when the bass fisherman hang up on my dock they would come and get it. I stepped on a lure barefoot and hooked myself.
I understand if I leave small chairs out they will disappear. It's not the end of the world.
Those fisherman they showed in the article I guarantee are not playing loud music.
The residents need to chill out...
Where are the game wardens? You can’t own the water boaters have the right to be on the lake. The problems with drunkenness, trespassing on the docks and land, the littering, noise issues are all issues that game wardens need to enforce. The reality is they can’t be out there 24/7 so my advice to people living by the lake instead of immediately wanting to infringe on peoples freedom on a public waterway move somewhere else if it’s bothering you that much.
cool, thanks for the heads up on the party spot🤙🏼👍🏼😎
Please do a follow-up story and ask her to provide a land survey showing her property line. I guarantee it stops at the wall. It is like someone complaining that a road goes in front of a house and then going to the news asking for the road to be shut down.
A huge amen!!!
Exactly!
So you would be alright with a car stopping on the side of the road by your house and the occupants coming into your yard to defecate.
They are using people's lawn as a bathroom, just wondering how many people would like that
Navigable water way.
Nobody owns the water. And if no public boat ramp, why are people crossing their yard to get to their boats?
HOA could be the owner this no public ramp.
There is access to a canal that connects to the lake that makes the lake public
All lakes in Florida besides ones in private developments are PUBLIC PROPERTY !! No one owns these water’s except all residents of Florida. Overdeveloped has caused the problem of not being able to sit on your precious waterfront property with peace and quiet.
BINGO! Overpopulation has destroyed my born and raised Florida of 57years. Florida is a shithole now!
oops, stomp their feet on the dock to scare fish.
This is why you don't entirely surround a lake with houses.
People can't have fun anymore. Somebody will always find some useless shit to wine about. Chill people we ain't leaving this earth with shit!
So it would be OK with you if one or more of them come on to your property and take a shit?
You don't own the water in Florida.
She looks like she’s out everyday doing the backstroke
She's a master of the fork stroke 🍴🍽️
So you show a bass boat with 2 people in it, not really a party boat. I'm thinking these Karen's don't like people on the lake fishing. Where's the party boats. I've had this type of Karen yell at me for fishing around her dock. They think they own the water when they own a house on the water.
Unfortunately it’s a navigable waterway. If they’re not trespassing on private property, then it’s no different than them being on the street. You CHOSE to buy a house on a public lake… so therein lies the problem.
On one hand, I feel for them, the public sucks and crowds trash everything. On the other hand, just because they built a house on a lake doesn't mean they own the lake. But the public should not be trespassing on private land. I do have empathy for them, not sure what the solution would be other than a lot of general law enforcement on the water to clamp down on drunks, trash and trespassing.
I'm confused was the lake made after they bought their houses?
No. It is legal for people to use the lake and operate boats. It is not legal for people to exit their boats and get on dry land anywhere on the shoreline of this particular lake. All of the shorelines are private property. There's no public parks or marina services on the lake, only private property. Apparently, there is a canal into the lake that connects to another body of water that has a public boat ramp. People are sitting in their boats, drinking and eating. Eventually, they get desperate for a place to relieve themselves.
Don't move on the lake .
Ah yes lake front full of Karen’s
Tell me you're a Karen without telling me you're a Karen
Reminds me of the Californians who bought all of the property on the Mckenzie river, east of Springfield, OR, in the late 80's.... They tried to stop the driftboat fishermen from fishing in the river from their boats.... So lucky when the Calfornians come to YOUR town.......
I had this problem I was walking down the middle of a creek trout fishing in a Pennsylvania state stocked dream and a guy came around me telling me to get off him property I said u don't own the stream he said if I don't leave he's gonna move me I said well ok move me he attacked me so I kick his ass that's how these people should handle this
Here in FL it's the NY and NJ people. I was fishing with my family when some rich NY transplant came down screaming about her pet fish and her water, and starting spraying the garden hose at us. We knew we had the legal right to be there so we didn't back down either and I was really getting concerned where it was going to end up. The sandbar across the channel was getting busy so a marine patrol came by and we flagged him down and first verified with him that my understanding of the law was correct (no private person owns the water in that location), then explained what was happening and he was nice enough to come have a chat with the lady. If looks could kill she would have killed us all, but she didn't bother us anymore. But it also ruined the fishing spot as that's no longer a pleasurable place to take my family fishing.
Unless it's a private man made lake, you do not own the lake
@Constitution Cowboy
Does your mother have any children that aren't stupid. You should check lawyer's opinion such as this one.
Private Lake means a lake owned by a private lake association or similar organization, or a lake to which access is not provided to the general public.
But note that the general public has no rights to the recreational use of a private lake, such rights being exclusive in the owner of the bed. Baker v. Normanoch Asso., 25 N.J. 407 (N.J. 1957)
A natural, nonnavigable inland lake is the subject of private ownership and since the bed of such lake is private property, the public has no right to boat upon its waters. An injunction may be allowed to restrain the unlawful use of such a lake. Similarly, the rule which is applicable to lakes is likewise applicable to ponds artificially created by the damming of a stream.
The homes look like homeowners just want something to complain about
I wouldn't want to hear those boats all the time either and that's why I'd never buy a house on the lake, they should have known it would like that.. it wouldn't bother me if someone peed in my yard either, just sayin but the littering would be a problem for me.
Move off the lake. Get a swimming pool. At least there aren't Somali pirates washing up on the lakeside.
LMAO!! They think they own the water. Hilarious.
You didn't watch the video then
@@vw8886 They dont own the water. I watched the video moron.
@@vw8886 There is access without trespassing, these people are fucking clueless.
Simple solution. Move!!!
Sell your home and move to the woods.
Terrible reporting. You talk about lots of boats, trash, and loud music but don’t show any of that in the video. Lazy reporting.
Karens thought they would have it all to themselves
I hate having to look at overbuilt houses and manicured lawns when I go out to enjoy the PUBLIC and natural beauty the lakes have to offer ALL citizens.
Federal Water Access Law prohibits anyone from owning navigable water. The boaters are in their full right as long as they access the water from any navigable waterway.
All of those lakes are connected by canals.. You don't own anything past the bulkhead. Get off the lake if you don't like fun on the water
Imagine a reward on your ass for copping a squat.😅😮
Sorry lady, nobody owns the water
For the record.
Bass Fisherman do not carry syringes. We do not litter.
Not a single pic or vid of the boats and partiers? Setup some speakers in your yard facing into the lake - when partiers park their boat, start blasting opera and classical music. They'll move on.
so playing loud music is ok to do there, then why the bitching about loud music.
I'm here now close the door behind me mentality is absolutely outrageous in this country. Most of these idiots never stopped to do their homework on the laws concerning waterways in this country.
I'm pretty sure that you don't have to do a lot of homework to know that someone coming onto your property to pee and poop in your bushes is illegal. Once you touch dry land or some's dock, you are trespassing. That's the issue that they are trying to address, not the fact that boats are on the lake. Littering, public intoxication, and trespassing are all illegal even if you have a legal right to operate your boat on a waterway. I'm not sure if you took the time to watch the whole video?
Yah don't own the water
There are TH-cam videos of people partying there. The reason they go to that spot is there's a spring there and a sandy bottom which makes it the best place in the chain to swim.
They don't own the lake.
They just think they do.
Imagone being upset that you knowingly bought a property that allows public use for anyone on the adjacent water and then being upset that you bought the property with those exact terms you have to live with, hmmm, just imgaine the gull of those boaters who won’t give up their water rights to the land owners.
Imagine commenting on a video that you apparently have not actually watched. They are not complaining about the boats on the water. They are complaining about the fact that the boaters are coming onto dry land, which is private property, to piss and crap in people's yards. They are complaining about people who are cutting across private property to join people in their boats. They are complaining about the boorish behavior of public intoxication and littering.
Yes, boaters have a right to be on public waters. No, they don't have a right to enter private property adjacent to public waters. No, they are not exempt from laws regarding public intoxication, operating a watercraft while intoxicated or littering.
@@michaelduffee6402 when you have to go, you just have to go man.
No lake or any ocean water like this that belongs to the people who live nearby this is all government property everybody have equal rights on water
residents don't own the waterways-where i live(tn) if you don't contact their property physically those karens complaining can't interfere with your recreational use or the waterways or they are the ones breaking the law
How do the boats get there is there is no boat ramp? This sounds very suspect.
There's an adjoining lake which has one, a canal joins the 2 lakes , they are navigable waters and can be accessed legally . 👍😎😎
Sounds like a bunch of Yankees complaining .
I call them YANKME’S
Lake Life
Classic Karen!😅😅😅
I would expect some results for $8,000 ... maybe they could get some action with another $8,000 to the mayor's election funds and another $8,000 to the prosecutor's office. Then sit back, film the sting operations, post them on platforms, get monetized and continue the cycle.
Waterfront owners do not own the water they surely do not get taxed for lake bottom
In other news: “Bass fisherman peacefully fishes on lake”
I sure miss old Florida.
Amen. Carpetbaggers from up north ruined paradise.
Sounds like a nice, peaceful place to live.
The word respect is no longer in the dictionary.
you're right, these ppl need to respect the fact that anyone is allowed to be on that lake and make as much noise as the want to. its called FREEDOM
Hold up a minute... So are they 'using the restroom' or are they using the property as a restroom? Let's report accurately...
They are not trespassing and the owners can not do anything about their presence and shame on the reporter for airing such a one sided report
Since the morons are coming on to their actual property as shown...it is an issue...pay attention.
Unfortunately, as of now, you need to rely on people being responsible. And you know how that is in today's society. Pretty sad.
I know none of that came from the fishermen. So not sure why you showed their boats??
Sounds like an HOA owned lake if there is no PUBLIC ramp. If people need to trespass to get their boat in the water it's a privately owned lake.
Chain of lakes
There is a boat landing that connects to the lake So it is legal for them boats to be on that body of water
but they can get there without using a boat ramp. so now what?
Ahhh...
The joy of waterfront living...
WHYVARE YOU SHOWING BASS FISHERMAN THEY ARE NIT CAUSING TROUBLE, THOSE PEOPLE DONT OWN THE WATER
How do police get their boat to the lake , if there is no public access? The media story leads to more questions than it answers !
It's connected by canals. There are public boat ramps in the chain of lakes.
I live in a lakeside resort community. Complaining about weekend noise means you're new.
I have a fishing shack on a point on a lake in NC. The parking is limited especially on weekends. So when someone new buys a place on the point we initiate them. We throw them a big Welcome to the Point party. Everyone’s house is open for the nosy ladies to walk through and we get them drunk AF. It’s hard to get pissed at somebody about their boat trailer being in your parking spot when you come in late at night or about parties that go on all night once you’ve been in their house and partied with them. Lol
This is lake front living people .. if you want peace and quiet your in the wrong spot. What a bunch o whining.
Funny how everytime they zoom in on the fishermen being polite and casual acting like they are the problem.
The homeowners want "private lake" land values.
Why purchase a house on the lake . It's a public lake what do u expect.
Interesting all the complaining but no film of the horrible "parties," etc.
It's been awhile and probably should be fact checked but this is what I remember .
I'mRead about navigable waters in fact . These folks have riparian rights but they cannot exclude people from these waters . But they cannot step foot on private land above the high water mark in non tidally affected waters . If you read about the history of the Internal Improvement Trust Fund here in Florida you will see property rights have always been corrupt . The sovereign does not own the lake but it holds it in trust for we the people .
This lake has no public boat ramps but is connected to a chain of lakes by canal that do . So these boaters can enjoy these waters .
And to clarify a bit . The state has title to the land beneath navigable waters when the state became a state . It is held in trust for the residents of Florida . The waters ( and probably the fish and wildlife ) are a resource that we all own but is managed by the state for us .
The issue raised by the property owners is the fact that the boaters are, in fact, entering their yards to use the restroom and allowing their dogs to do the same. It also sounds like people are cutting across private property in order to meet people on boats (who did legally enter the lake). Once you touch dry land or a dock, that's trespassing. Additionally, the boaters are leaving a mess of discarded items in the lake, which is illegal.
@@michaelduffee6402 absolutely correct , as I stated these folks cannot step foot on private lands . Unfortunately you are correct about the garbage . I pick it up wherever I go . Very sad .
@@michaelduffee6402 perhaps you know , because I'm not sure .
Can a riparian owner exclude the public from docks built over navigable waters ?
You can't own water ways. It's public. The fact that there isn't a boat tamp for the public, should be what this news station is focused on. The fact that their isn't a public boat ramp is why these people think they own the lake. Petition wintehaven for a public boat ramp, because it should already be in place.
So make the fishermen look bad?! Those guys ain't partying they are fishing. Way to place the blame on the wrong boaters.
They should have shot this piece during the weekend to get the entire picture. Showing a couple of guys out fishing just minding their own business made the homeowners look bad.
It sounds like the homes need to be taken by eminent domain, and the surrounding area made into a public park. Problem solved.
Before you know it we won't be aloud to be part of anything unless you have money
We own the waters of this land. No one person or group can stop us from using our resources. 🖖🏻America
Is the lake public or private,
Accessed through chain of lakes, its public.
Public access to a canal that connects to the lake that makes the lake public
Any type of water way stream is not owned.. You may have lake/River front property YES.. Just not the water itself
Why keep showing the bass boat?I doubt there's any loud music or drug use going on.
If it's "Navigable Water" then the homeowners can't stop people from boating on the lake but stepping off onto private property is not allowed.
Some people think they own the Lake.
Yeah but who owns the water, all these rich people think they can keep all there gated communities locked
I like how they are describing party boaters..but only have footage of bass boats and anglers
Do these people own the lake or is it a public lake?
Hmm, why not do the report when all the alleged activity was happening?
Get a grip on yourselves people as long as it’s got public access anywhere on the lake then you don’t own the lake
If the public has access you will not stop it unless the lake becomes private
Great reporting.
Nice video of all the partying boats.
All lakes are property of government, there should be a government boat launch area and sufficient parking. Unless the lake was privately dug out by a privately owned company/owner
The entire lake is surrounded by private property. It’s connected to other lakes there by a canal system, which the boaters access the lake through. If the public wants, a petition can be started to get a referendum on the state ballot to have the Winter Haven city government, the county government or the state government to exercise imminent domain to have property condemned to install a boat ramp because it’s in the public’s interest. These homeowners need to be careful of griping too loudly or some citizen is going to mobilize the public and get a boat ramp installed.
@@guyondotteoreilly4355 Absolutely and that is the problem, there was NO public access provided to the public lake !!! Somebody screwed up years ago !!!
Nobody should be allowed to own lakefront property, lakes should be for recreation like they were intended to be
The water is state property state land can't be owned
People are getting killed right and left but yet they put a bounty on somebody who used a yard to go to the bathroom.
If it's year round, they can't get footage of it??
Crazy every single boat has a radio