Totally agree! Cale - Godfather of alternative music and yet most underrated musician of our times. Lou Reed once said: "I only hope that one day John will be recognized as ... the Beethoven or something of his day. He knows so much about music, he's such a great musician. He's completely mad - but that's because he's Welsh."
I’m shocked at how magnificent and ‘finished’ this sounds, like it was always meant to be. Cale sounds darker, even the guitar sounds like a chain saw on a challenging assignment. The original has its unassailable place, but this too has its place, a world of lost masterpieces.
Everyone takes this as a cover just because Reed isn't there to sing it - well, Cale was the co-author of the song and the demos proved that he was the original choice for sing this song, so I'd more like to say - THIS IS HOW IT SHOULD HAVE EVER SOUNDED TO ME!!!
disagree totally. Cale sings it straight. go back and listen to the VU version. Lou has the most distinct phrasing and breaths and interpretation of the lyrics that are mostly missing here. Taste the whip, now plead for me line that Lou sings sends shivers. Cale's is a good version. But it ain't Lou.
As big a fan of Lou Reed as I am John Cale definitely helped write this song, the droning viola and numerous other elements of the song weren’t Reed’s idea, he may not have writing credits for it on the album but you only have to listen to it to hear Cale’s influence
@@nicksouza191 Cale was deceived by Reed about the copyright of the songs, they even had legal issues about it. Yes, Reed wrote the songs, but it was Cale's massive contributions towards the sound of The Velvets on TVU&N and WL/WH that were so groundbreaking. The credits on those two albums should have been: lyrics - Lou Reed music - Lou Reed and John Cale! But Reed's selfishness would have none of that.
John Cale - responsible for most of the cool shit we listen to! We should all be thankful that this man exists, because without him 'alternative music' wouldn't be so 'alternative' at all! and thats a fact! Genius!
i saw him solo in melbourne back in the late 80's or early 90's and he was extraordinary throughout. piano or violin. singing from the depths of a thousand years of culture, of his classical training, his take no prisoner attitude and extraordinary voice.
@@billytherhinonyc I saw him live in Dallas at a club called Mother Blues. 1979....amazing. I love this version, but this song is so beautiful and haunting I appreciate all versions. Good times, good music back then.
@@CaligulitaI'd rather compare him to Beethoven than Mozart. Ludwig was far heavier, his music far more profound and darker than anything Amadeus had created. Cale is from the same mold as LvB, wheras WAM is more equivalent to Elton John.
I tried to sing and play a viola once, almost impaled my left eyeball with the bow. Last time I touched a viola, and there'll never be a time I'll get tired of listening to VU, Cale and Reed.
Epic sound from 1:25 to 1:45 - and what lyrics!! I am tired, I am weary I could sleep for a thousand years A thousand dreams that would awake me Different colors made of tears
Thanks, man - you are so right! John Cale's albums are always terrific. I saw him do "Venus in Furs" with that skeletal violin here at Cafe du Nord and he and the band were great. But the songs from his latest CE and EP were fantastic, too!
I love the recorded Velvet Underground version, but this one is equally good. The mesmerising part of this song has always been Cale's string play and his singing is much more tuned to the melody than Reed's.
I oftenparaphrase John Cale in that he has said.If you never become a "Superstar", you can have a great career in music. I agree,and he is one of many who have proved that statement to bre true.
Love Cale's version but Lou emotes the feel of the book when he sings the lyrics, it's subtle but if you read the book, his singing progresses the way Severin's obsession does. It's brilliant by both Reed and Cale.
I often drive through John Cale's home village in SW Wales. I always sing; 'Severin, Serevin, awaits you there'. Other passengers are often puzzled, but I say you either get the genius of John Cale, or you are lost forever.........................
Cale's father was a coal miner and you can hear that in his sinister and menacing soundscapes, the endlessly deep black abyss, threatening to suck you in, drowning you forever.
I feel like anyone who takes that path won't be disappointed. :-) 'Paris 1919' is one of the best songs/albums ever. I wish more people knew about Cale, but because they don't, he's also a special treat.
Krystal: Personally I much prefer his more recent output. I think Hobosapiens is one of the strongest if not THE strongest album he's ever recorded. I also like much of its follow up album; Black acetate and also Shifty adventures in Nookie wood. Cale never stops experimenting and his ear is very open to modern (and apparently unlikely) influences.
Now THIS is the shit! Terrific! John Cale always blew Reed right off the stage. This is Cale's song as much as Reeds, he co-wrote it. Cale clearly has always been the major talent of the VU alumni. (Just an opinion, so Reed devotees don't go apeshit.)
Crimson Wolf Spot on! Though Reed wrote most of the Velvets songs, it was Cale who was the musical mastermind of their sound . It was Cale who introduced the drone sound and that repetetive piano staccato into rock&roll, so many other bands have used in their songs ever since. But due to Reed´s selfishness, Cale was never properly credited for his musical contribution to TVU&N and WL/WH. It should have been: lyrics - Lou Reed music - Lou Reed & John Cale. This was the reason Cale and Reed wouldn´t speak to each other for years due to copyright issues.
@@calzabbath Average poet is being very generous! Cale wrote better songs, made better arrangements, had a better voice, was a better musician and produced/introduced MANY important iconic artists! If Mick Ronson and Bowie had not salvaged Reed's career with "Transformer"... he would have disappeared. Reed was 90% hype and cruised through his entire career on the VU reputation as if it was ALL his doing. Most of Reed's solo output, if truth be told, was crap.
@@crimsonwolf9099 agree. If you give me all Reed’s discography to listen for a week, I will come out mildly enjoying one track per album at best, maybe with the exception of Transformer which, as you say, it’s more about production than anything else.
This is absolutely amazing and Cale is really very talented but i stand by Lou too and think he is also incredible. I love them both even if they hate each other.
Love Velvet Under ground without them we would never have had Lou Reed or John Cale ... the rest is History...Classic song from John ...Did you know it was John who introduce the first Electric Violin on Top of the Pops. Myex knows John Cale
Cale added that extra dimension that made the Velvets great. When Lou sacked him they became a different band…good but not great, Although I do like Loaded a lot. Cale added that edge.
This is probably the best live performance of this song ever recorded. See Lou, this is what you can do if you actually respect your audience and put a bit of effort in, rather than letting your ego butcher all the great work you have done.
One's rendition of a song is as varied as all the individual poetic opinions of the world ...each perfect in their own right. John Cale personifies the embodiment of the wax and wane of the perfect coffee haus iambic verve.
Great version of this song. Not going to debate whether Lou Reed's album version was better, cause we're talking Lou Reed when he was in his absolute prime, but this is a great version all on it's own. I also love Cale's version of "All Tomorrow's Parties" from the VU live in Europe.
it doesn't really matter who the truly better artist is, or what constitutes that. john cale wouldn't have been john cale without lou reed, or vice versa and the velvet underground may have never made it out of cafe bizarre without a deal from andy warhol. in rare cases, genius complements genius. in this case, genius complemented genius complemented genius to make one of the greatest goddamn bands of all time, and probably the most unmistakable sound ever heard.
Exactly! Lou shall be rspected for many of his own songs written ansd peformed long after the Velvets. Some pieces you can play around with live. But Venus in Furs? I heard it live in Roskilde 1993. Every little diva-like change in intonation: This is not VU 1965, this is me, today! took away from the song and added nothing. John Cale must have been boiling inside. A privilege to have seen them live! Especially after it was over.
Totally agree!
Cale - Godfather of alternative music and yet most underrated musician of our times.
Lou Reed once said:
"I only hope that one day John will be recognized as ... the Beethoven or something of his day. He knows so much about music, he's such a great musician. He's completely mad - but that's because he's Welsh."
I’m shocked at how magnificent and ‘finished’ this sounds, like it was always meant to be. Cale sounds darker, even the guitar sounds like a chain saw on a challenging assignment. The original has its unassailable place, but this too has its place, a world of lost masterpieces.
..that's because Cale had the original vocal on the VU album, but being him, Lou erased it and replaced him...
100%. Cale's version is a masterpiece.
Everyone takes this as a cover just because Reed isn't there to sing it - well, Cale was the co-author of the song and the demos proved that he was the original choice for sing this song, so I'd more like to say - THIS IS HOW IT SHOULD HAVE EVER SOUNDED TO ME!!!
disagree totally. Cale sings it straight. go back and listen to the VU version. Lou has the most distinct phrasing and breaths and interpretation of the lyrics that are mostly missing here. Taste the whip, now plead for me line that Lou sings sends shivers. Cale's is a good version. But it ain't Lou.
Also Cale did not have a hand in writing this. On the album it is credited solely to Lou. Good version though.
As big a fan of Lou Reed as I am John Cale definitely helped write this song, the droning viola and numerous other elements of the song weren’t Reed’s idea, he may not have writing credits for it on the album but you only have to listen to it to hear Cale’s influence
... and it is a great version anyway. Cale always sounds like something's stuck in his nose - fits perfect here.
@@nicksouza191 Cale was deceived by Reed about the copyright of the songs, they even had legal issues about it. Yes, Reed wrote the songs, but it was Cale's massive contributions towards the sound of The Velvets on TVU&N and WL/WH that were so groundbreaking. The credits on those two albums should have been: lyrics - Lou Reed
music - Lou Reed and John Cale! But Reed's selfishness would have none of that.
this song is so crazy, the whole structure, the lyrics, the whole gloomy sound. I love it.
I can think of a handfull of people I would like to or would like to have met and John Cale is one of them. Amazing and intriguing.
John's here, owning the whole VU, and rightly so!
John Cale - responsible for most of the cool shit we listen to! We should all be thankful that this man exists, because without him 'alternative music' wouldn't be so 'alternative' at all! and thats a fact! Genius!
It would all sound like Yes or that Canadian band.
i saw him solo in melbourne back in the late 80's or early 90's and he was extraordinary throughout. piano or violin. singing from the depths of a thousand years of culture, of his classical training, his take no prisoner attitude and extraordinary voice.
like a dark and dirty mozart
saw him in a old church in nyc called the limelight, a sacraligious place, and mr cale was astounding, full rock band. 2000ish
@@billytherhinonyc I saw him live in Dallas at a club called Mother Blues. 1979....amazing. I love this version, but this song is so beautiful and haunting I appreciate all versions. Good times, good music back then.
@@CaligulitaI'd rather compare him to Beethoven than Mozart. Ludwig was far heavier, his music far more profound and darker than anything Amadeus had created. Cale is from the same mold as LvB, wheras WAM is more equivalent to Elton John.
The power in this version, is fantastic. Wow!!
its the violin,its just so torturous.magnificent
Truly amazing musician ..
Cale's version is so majestic
I tried to sing and play a viola once, almost impaled my left eyeball with the bow. Last time I touched a viola, and there'll never be a time I'll get tired of listening to VU, Cale and Reed.
Best ever version
So fucking raw ! That guitar rips like a whiplash !
Just a stunning performance.
That guy is f...g awesome on the guitar, superb mastery of a song,and a live masterpiece in technique.
Epic sound from 1:25 to 1:45 - and what lyrics!!
I am tired, I am weary
I could sleep for a thousand years
A thousand dreams that would awake me
Different colors made of tears
gives me chills every time. The good kind.
Thanks, man - you are so right! John Cale's albums are always terrific. I saw him do "Venus in Furs" with that skeletal violin here at Cafe du Nord and he and the band were great. But the songs from his latest CE and EP were fantastic, too!
Cale is epic, Reed was a flash in the pan. He did pen some great lyrics with the Velvets though.
I love the recorded Velvet Underground version, but this one is equally good. The mesmerising part of this song has always been Cale's string play and his singing is much more tuned to the melody than Reed's.
Hahaha, you mean... Cale can actually SING!
brilliant. adds another authentic dimension to it.
I oftenparaphrase John Cale in that he has said.If you never become a "Superstar", you can have a great career in music. I agree,and he is one of many who have proved that statement to bre true.
man this is fantastic
exquisit version of an exquisit song
Love Cale's version but Lou emotes the feel of the book when he sings the lyrics, it's subtle but if you read the book, his singing progresses the way Severin's obsession does. It's brilliant by both Reed and Cale.
Awesome. A sonic narcotic.......
Wihout Cale, the VU is a great rock band.
With Cale, the VU is an amazing, off the beaten tracks rock band
I love when he sings "taste the whip, now pleeeaad for meee".
It's possible to hear some kind of strange pleasure in his voice...
I always thought it was bleed for me. I looked it up it's plead.
I often drive through John Cale's home village in SW Wales. I always sing; 'Severin, Serevin, awaits you there'. Other passengers are often puzzled, but I say you either get the genius of John Cale, or you are lost forever.........................
+Carsick Mick From what I remember fellow welsh maverick lustmord is from a nearby area. not sure what they put in the water round there.
+Jack Edge Yes! He is a bit further North, but still rural Wales. I think Lustmord also did some work with the epic Throbbing Gristle & Psychic TV?
They sip from the source of Celtic pathos & Pagan madness which touches us all from Dark Welsh ancestry.
I know the feeling.... done that!
Cale's father was a coal miner and you can hear that in his sinister and menacing soundscapes, the endlessly deep black abyss, threatening to suck you in, drowning you forever.
Wunderbar❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
John Cale, nothing more needs to be said. Just listen,
Absolutely amazing
great musician
Truly amazing.
Love the original but love this too. Both are fantastic!
fuck me!...is this what it can be like when you get old?...amazing....!!
Molto bello questo spezzone di live.
excellent cover.will ave a listen to more cale stuff now
I feel like anyone who takes that path won't be disappointed. :-) 'Paris 1919' is one of the best songs/albums ever. I wish more people knew about Cale, but because they don't, he's also a special treat.
Not a cover really - he was in the band.
Krystal: Personally I much prefer his more recent output. I think Hobosapiens is one of the strongest if not THE strongest album he's ever recorded. I also like much of its follow up album; Black acetate and also Shifty adventures in Nookie wood. Cale never stops experimenting and his ear is very open to modern (and apparently unlikely) influences.
wonderful....very very nice.
He uses a wooden practice mute on the bridge of his electric viola! Ingenious!
many rockers of the 60's still play their classic tunes... but not the way John Cale does
great update for a great song
I want them to play this song at .my funeral Seriously
Amazing
awsome performance
God exists and is John Cale.
Cuelgue total, un himno.
I love it! Great!
Yes!!
Brilliant! Thanks for sharing
Now THIS is the shit! Terrific! John Cale always blew Reed right off the stage. This is Cale's song as much as Reeds, he co-wrote it. Cale clearly has always been the major talent of the VU alumni. (Just an opinion, so Reed devotees don't go apeshit.)
Crimson Wolf Spot on! Though Reed wrote most of the Velvets songs, it was Cale who was the musical mastermind of their sound . It was Cale who introduced the drone sound and that repetetive piano staccato into rock&roll, so many other bands have used in their songs ever since. But due to Reed´s selfishness, Cale was never properly credited for his musical contribution to TVU&N and WL/WH. It should have been: lyrics - Lou Reed music - Lou Reed & John Cale.
This was the reason Cale and Reed wouldn´t speak to each other for years due to copyright issues.
Reed was an average poet, no more. Cale is a classical artist with incredible talent.
@@calzabbath Average poet is being very generous! Cale wrote better songs, made better arrangements, had a better voice, was a better musician and produced/introduced MANY important iconic artists! If Mick Ronson and Bowie had not salvaged Reed's career with "Transformer"... he would have disappeared. Reed was 90% hype and cruised through his entire career on the VU reputation as if it was ALL his doing. Most of Reed's solo output, if truth be told, was crap.
@@crimsonwolf9099 agree. If you give me all Reed’s discography to listen for a week, I will come out mildly enjoying one track per album at best, maybe with the exception of Transformer which, as you say, it’s more about production than anything else.
@@crimsonwolf9099 I once saw Reed try to tune his guitar.
Amazing!
すばらしい！
thanks to this song...i got into bolan..bowie..numan and early ultravox
this is magnificent
This is absolutely amazing and Cale is really very talented but i stand by Lou too and think he is also incredible. I love them both even if they hate each other.
Superbe!
Great version
Dustin Boyer on guitar adds so f#cking much to this...
Love Velvet Under ground without them we would never have had Lou Reed or John Cale ... the rest is History...Classic song from John ...Did you know it was John who introduce the first Electric Violin on Top of the Pops. Myex knows John Cale
Cale added that extra dimension that made the Velvets great. When Lou sacked him they became a different band…good but not great,
Although I do like Loaded a lot. Cale added that edge.
Go To: Nico - Frozen Warnings - John Cale cover.
Powertuber1000 thank you.
Timeless, I love it!! 🤩
and Cale actually knows the words to his songs
génialissime, perturbant
Bellissima versione
omg this was a crazy performance
That was great. I bet John would agree that it's a shame David Bowie never covered this song.
Actually, I think it is a viola. That is what he is playing on the original VU recording from 1966 as well.
Excelente.
This is a great version of the song.
I like three Velvet Underground songs, but I adore Cales solo back catalog.
strongest version of venus thanks to the band
Extraordinary version.
That's how it's done.
This is probably the best live performance of this song ever recorded.
See Lou, this is what you can do if you actually respect your audience and put a bit of effort in, rather than letting your ego butcher all the great work you have done.
Your comment on Reed.... NAILED IT!!!!!
THIS IS LIKE AN ANGEL LANDING.
fuckin fantastic....
CAN ANYONE ASURE ME IF HE ALWAYS PLAY THIS SONG IN HIS CONCERTS, HE S COMING TO PERU NEXT YEAR AND THIS SONG PAYS THE TICKET
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That viola
wow
talent x 10
@PrawnSolo I agree. Especially later years Lou where he's not even really trying to sing and just kind of talks along to the music.
Amen.
amzing!!! Not enough thumbs to vote
This is genius.....
Mindblowing version, nastier and filtered through a contemporary sensibility...
One's rendition of a song is as varied as all the individual poetic opinions of the world ...each perfect in their own right. John Cale personifies the embodiment of the wax and wane of the perfect coffee haus iambic verve.
John Cale attended GoldSmiths in London and then went to the US to write and perform being very much the driving force behind the Velvet Underground.
He went to the US on a Leonard Bernstein scholarship in 1963! Even back then his enormous talent was obvious.
@ThePrairieFiddler no it's definitely a viola. an electric viola
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hey i think it is. sweet trust him 2 be diggin it the most in the audience. this gives me goosebumps love it
Great version of this song. Not going to debate whether Lou Reed's album version was better, cause we're talking Lou Reed when he was in his absolute prime, but this is a great version all on it's own. I also love Cale's version of "All Tomorrow's Parties" from the VU live in Europe.
Lou Reed in his prime could not imagine an orchestration such as this. Do you listen to music?
Yes, of course, that's right. Thanks.
AND HE PLAYS THE VIOLA!!! :)
Everything's perfect but I specially like the delicate sound of Deantoni's drums.
(He is one of the best drummers of our times)
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I think this is fantastic...irrespective of who wrote it or sang it first.
it doesn't really matter who the truly better artist is, or what constitutes that. john cale wouldn't have been john cale without lou reed, or vice versa and the velvet underground may have never made it out of cafe bizarre without a deal from andy warhol. in rare cases, genius complements genius. in this case, genius complemented genius complemented genius to make one of the greatest goddamn bands of all time, and probably the most unmistakable sound ever heard.
Exactly! Lou shall be rspected for many of his own songs written ansd peformed long after the Velvets. Some pieces you can play around with live. But Venus in Furs? I heard it live in Roskilde 1993. Every little diva-like change in intonation: This is not VU 1965, this is me, today! took away from the song and added nothing. John Cale must have been boiling inside. A privilege to have seen them live! Especially after it was over.