My Next Guest with David Letterman | Billie Eilish on the Layers of 'Happier Than Ever'
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- Billie and Finneas show David Letterman what really went into the recording of ‘Happier Than Ever.’
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My Next Guest with David Letterman | Billie Eilish on the Layers of 'Happier Than Ever'
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Just in case anyone doesn't realise, this is the way 99% of all professionally recorded singing is recorded, it's not a 'new' and unique style of vocal production
Exactly, lol.
87 takes for 1 vocal track within 1song is BS..
Yes, but 87 takes is incredibly excessive. Most songs have 10-15 takes max. Whitney Houston performed “I’m Your Baby Tonight” in one take because she wanted to go the mall before it closed. Billie’s just an insecure vocalist. I was confused why they showed this - like this isn’t something you should be proud of.
wait it's not new?
@@darindavis6291 One of the many reason why modern music sucks....it's fake .
My favorite part is when the cardiologist joke just doesn’t land at all🥹
Easy. They were both homeschooled. Neither of them even know what a cardiologist is.
Just so all of the fans who are here to worship at her feet know, I'm actually a gigantic fan of both of these people myself. I think he's an incredible producer. I think that with his help she can make amazing art, not necessarily the strongest live singer but still good and I enjoy listening to her live or on album although the album always sounds far better because it's a controlled piece of art they created and could perfect whereas live, well....
But his two solo albums are in my regular playlist as well as all of her music. Big fan, really doubt they know what a cardiologist is though. That's the home schooling for you.
That was a generational skip, 8 beats at once. 🤣
@@TorrentFiend10 lol you're crazy, they def know what a cardiologist is
@@TorrentFiend10 bruh come on don't go over the top, they are not dumb
i don't think that's true necessarily. it's not really a laugh out loud joke... i think it looks like she's smiling when she's turning away just as he's saying it, and finn's reaction is not there but i think it's probable he's smiling as well. i think it's just the editing / billie shuffling around in that moment that made it slightly awkward.
For anyone who thinks this is somehow fake, I'm certain she could sing it end to end and sound great, but if you have the tools to choose the very best, you use them.
That's why magicians never show the secret behind their tricks to their non initiated audience, or a restaurant, their kitchen. You run the risk of killing the magic
when you think about it, she does sing it end to end and it sounds great when she sings this song live!
you can make anyone sound amazing, perks of technology, the computer does all the work. who would claim its fake
Think ? No man there is no need to think , it is fake on the first go.
@@ictlab1345 This is also part of building the live performance. Singing the song over and over again, figuring out the “best” way to sing each part and then editing it together creates a guide. Then she can learn to sing, live, a version of that song heavily informed by the guide in one pass, with variation informed by the live atmosphere.
*sigh* People claiming she is "fake" or that "this isn't music" don't know what they're talking about. Editing has existed in music recording for ages. Your favourite artists did this as well, often recording multiple takes to capture the correct one. The main difference is that this is done digitally instead of using a razor to literally cut the tape. Artists did have to practice more to get a performance correct because editing was a longer more arduous process than it is now. Yet even after hours and hours of practicing, there was still some editing done to some degree.
Billie IS SINGING THE SONG!
Billie IS STILL PERFORMING THE SONG!
Billie is just a perfectionist, so she selects the take she's happy with out of the dozens and dozens of takes. Again, regardless of the edit, SHE STILL SUNG THE SONG!
its one of the reasons i love her and finneas, they have their vision for a song and by god do they make sure they get it, every nuance is on purpose and it all fits together so perfectly. not only this, but the amount of time they work on the phrasing, tone, embellishments of the vocal, its just. exactly. perfect.
The problem with people, is that.. When they learn something that is been GATEKEEP for so long (because they don't really talk about it in the industry), they get offended and say it's not professional or idk what else.
Do they understand that.. doing this method, does ask a lot of work, in editing and taking takes?
87 takes is beyond hot garbage
You don't know what you're talking about. I'll give her the credit because she is still actually singing those takes. But it's a little deceptive in terms of it not being a real performance.
If someone has the tech and time, anyone can do what she is doing and create a good final product. I wont go so far as to say she's not an artist or lacks talent, because she clearly has the talent and is an artist. But it is a little deceptive
Not really... with tape cutting you cannot do such small parts... and as you mentioned it was a long and expensive process so, the singer had to perform really well all the versions which could be used for editing. They didn't had a chance to make 10sec part form 79 pieces on a tape.
people calling this "fake" clearly don't know anything about production, like whatttt other artists have been doing this for ages! y'all alright?
Literally I do it
Everyone who's ever recorded has done this trick. This is nothing new. It's much harder on 2-in tape. At least with digital files it's very easy to undo mistakes. If you mess up using reel to reel tape it's very bad.
Yup can confirm :)
Even in the days of analog tape it was done. It just had to be spliced together manually, so it wasn't done as much.
You're so right. That's how a lot of video entertainment is made, and Photoshop images, even writing. Nobody's perfect.
I’m grateful for this portion of Billie’s episode. Seeing a bts of just a snippet of their process is such an honor. As an artist I’m taking it all in!
This is nothing special or unique to what they do or their process. You're clearly a very excited fan but calm down a little. Every single artist does this. She was just being honest and showing Dave something that most other artists will not tell you. Back in the day with 2-in tape with analog recording this was a much much harder process. However it's been done since the early days of recording. Nothing unique. Very common.
And no, Billie and her brother are not the one to discover this. It's been around since the beginning of recording.
@@TorrentFiend10 can you shut up and not be such a mood killer?
David Letterman is a pervert that must be stayed away from. Billie Eilish is so annoying as well.
no hate, I love Billie. But taking what in? this is common sense lol. You record a lot of takes and combine them into the perfect one. This is why Studio versions sound more polished than live performances, you have a lot of tries and can crossfade.
@@user-rv7ge1tc4l I’m taking in this part of the episode… what isn’t clear?
"different take, different take, different take" WELL THAT'S SO SMOOTH. not only the "editing" but her voice stay the same in EVERY take!!! like WOW
Yep, and this is why even the editing & production is just as artful as singing straight through live. How amazing to be shown a tiny bit of the work.
Billie is NOTORIOUS for her perfectionism. On several songs when she layers her vocals over and over and over again (sometimes more than 50 times), she's said in the past that she will do numerous takes to get not just the breath and pitch and volume right, but to get the same exact vowel and consonant placement, the same sibilance, the same everything. That takes a LOT of control.
i could never use that kind of editing, my voice sounds always different from the previous take.. i can only sing the whole thing until i simply nail it.. i suppose i´m a very emotional guy.
@@johnentwistle952 nah don't worry you're not alone lmao
@@gd-rm5729 how´s that funny?
Musicians even do this when they film live concerts for broadcast/streaming later. They'll take shows from multiple nights and edit them together to look like it was all done in one constant live show. They have the singers and band members wear the same clothes for each show so that it all looks seamless. The main goal with any entertainment piece is giving the audience a perfect-looking product.
Idk how some people took it as her bragging or saying it's something new they came up with
She's just proud of their work and she's excited while talking about it, what's wrong with that?
Exactry
they're just jealous
Two things I learned from this:
1) Billie and her brother are the real deal. It is their love of music that makes them who they are. She is a special soul that one, and an old one too I think.
2) Dave is one hell of an interviewer. This is the perfect format for him. He is engaged fully and asks all the right questions.
Dave comes like a simp grandpa that urgently wants to be involved with the grandchildren before he dies but dont really care what they are doing. And Billie like a lazy depressed child.
Came for this. What a great interview. 👌🏻
3) they rich kids
@@Reycalaverax Why rich kids?
Wow. Mr. David Letterman actually appeared a bit awed at the end of this clip.
When he was explaining the impact of both hearing and seeing this music that was being explained to him by the artists themselves in person.
And when he was trying to express the way this experience altered his perception of the music.
His cheeks flushed crimson beneath his beard.
Think of that!
All of the impressive people this one man has met throughout his career.
For him to respond this way is one hell of a compliment.
He was probably just holding his real thoughts back, that is sometimes what a respectable interviewer does... By, that point she had already called him a MFcker... Watch the whole interview, I guess he was just happy to have unveiled how fake she is 😵💫, that was what his surprised expression translated to me.
Finneas is such a genius from the producer point of view
Completely agree. He is extremely talented. However this is not something he came up with. You do know this is something every recording artist has done since the beginning of recording right? It's a lot easier now with digital files. It used to be very difficult with analog real to real tape back in the day.
he really IS, not just your point of view
Hahahahahaha 87 takes is garbage
@@6sixtysix shure playboy whatever you say...
@@6sixtysix uhm and who are you, sir?
I have always loved David Letterman. This new show of his is fantastic. Initially I was only watching the ones that had people I like but then started watching all of them. He has such a wonderful way of showcasing the best in people. His wit makes me smile and his heart pokes through much more now. I wind up really liking the guests that I didn't think I world. David Letterman I love you. ❤️
As a vocalist with minimal recording experience (but lots of live), learning about this stuff is so fascinating to me. My band did some recording recently and due to time constraints, I only got to do 4-5 takes for most of the songs. I would die to have the chance to record like this and basically just micromanage the perfect possible sound out of hundreds of recordings. Even just being able to explore the difference between minute changes, like slightly speeding up or slowing down vibrato, adjusting the vowel sound, having a more pronounced consonant... god it would be amazing!
What's happening here is that Billie creates an audio image of what she wants in the final production sound. Then she sets out to construct it over a series of takes. The files in the Logic Pro system support what she and Finnie want to do. The first Ocean Eyes upload was a practical miracle, A lovely song, but technically what most would have considered impossible.
You can do a lot of that with melodyne.
Yeah. That’s why recording in a home studio is best. No payment by the clock.
It’s obviously too much tho. I do sessions all the time in big studios and even artist like Taylor and Carrie underwood do 3-6 take then the comp the best. It’s the old fashioned way, I honestly prefer doing it at home and getting what you want vs what you get.
I’m not a big fan of her music, but I really like her as a person. She is an incredibly beautiful soul. Have been smitten with this young woman for awhile.
That's odd
How can you like someone as a person that you don’t know
Just say she’s hot.
@@TedIsHere2 why not?
He means he likes the person in front of the camera. Well that can be her true self but you never know
By the way I am proud of peaple like you guys that don't worship celebrities anymore
I'm just happy that Dave finally seems happy again. He's seeing the world with a childlike wonder, and that's cool to see a guy his age being amazed by something new
I’m immensely grateful for this, I don’t know spit about music but I learned something tonight. Thank you Billie,Finneas, Dave and of course Netflix
he’s so sweet 😭🤍
"Thankyou for caring". 😍
love it when David Letterman isn't in a talkshow-host set up, but more informally conversating with people basically.. he has such a serence and calm comprehensive side, that we rarely got to see in the giggling n talkin along stuff before.
Like a good movie, a lot ends up on the cutting room floor.. I love their honesty in showing this, and it makes me love Billie even more
I just bought the "LA Women" sessions LP, you get to hear all the members of the Doors doing exactly this, but with 1970's recording and editing tech. This is how songs are crafted, by the artists and the producers. Billie and Finneas do both the creation and the production admirably.
Hahahaha 87 takes is hot garbage
@@swift-program clown, I’ve only said it one time. Do you only have 2 brain cells to rub together to come to that shallow conclusion.
The doors did not do it like this, dont be naive. This is not how songs are crafted, this is how modern pop machines record artists are crafted.
If you hear the doors records, theres tons of metric variations, small mistakes, not clear notes, raw voice cracks, and all the unperfect stuff that makes it good.
Reasons why billie is a pro, that simple. If Finneas and Billie stopped making music together, world would notice the perfect team they make. Sooooo cool. The best is that I don't notice where the cut is.
This is so cool. The vibe and energy.Them showing how they record songs. I feel like her and David have the same energy
She's a perfectionist, that's what i got from this
Truly, she's so dang beautiful
The fact that Letterman is on full Gandolph is truly warming my heart
billie is perfect☺
this is actually amazing, very good production work here wow 👏
Dave is a very good interviewer in acting like the audience surrogate, because he absolutely already knows how this works.
Her brother's a genius & she has such an emotive voice. In their doco 'The world's a little blurry' it really showed how well they work together.
He’s not a genius. He’s good at what he does and happens to have connections in the industry. That’s it. Don’t throw around “genius” because it just devalues it.
@@3rdeye931 Take Analsol if your butt hurt.
Why are people in the comments acting dumb on purpose? Have y'all never heard of artists doing takes over and over and picking the parts they like the most and putting it together? It's like you guys want to be mad about something.
I think they don't act dumb, they are...
Not on purpose. She is literally the center of their universe and they worship her. They really are that clueless. It's very sad.
What do you expect if they're only used to singing at competitions at the local mall.
God I love this...the process has a beauty all its own.
Dave, thanks for that!
BILLIE TE AMO
This brother and sister love ♡
Billie is an amazing talent! She is one of the only people I listen to post 1970’s talent! That’s saying alot!
These guys are amazing!
I love you Billie!!!!!!😍🤟🏻
I love to see this side of Dave .
Love both so much 🙌🏾😇🖤💚🙌🏾
Love you Billie
Happier Than Ever is my warm up dance on Just Dance 2022
This was an incredible episode.
I love the respect these new superstars show the old superstar- Letterman (even though they don't understand his brilliant humor i.e - the cardiologist comment). He never should have left Late Night. He's the best ever.
Oh, they got it...it just wasn't very funny. Also, you don't have to guffaw and slap your knees to enjoy a joke.
A bunch o' love to the tree of you
😎🤙
Much love ❤️ Thank-you so much
Finneas is a legend and genius
Is far too young to be a legend. Perhaps a legend in the making if he keeps working hard and continually impresses us like he has so far but he isn't there yet. Calm down fan.
As for genius they were homeschooled. Clearly that is not right either. I will grant that he is a musical genius or a genius when it comes to music. Not a straight-up genius overall though. :)
@@TorrentFiend10 it’s really not that big of a deal he’s definitely a musical genius he’s worked with many artist and makes his own and produce one of the highest listened songs ever, there both legends
@@TorrentFiend10 He got 6 grammys at 22, that's already a legendry story, at many of the best lifetime producers don't have any.
@@TorrentFiend10 he won 8 grammys one of them for producer of the year and imagine he was only 21
billie eilish❤❤
Looking forward to this one.
This is just a general message to Netflix, not about this video in question. Can you please... please, please, please, urge movie developers to put the close caption at the bottom of the screen like it's being for years before then. It's easier to read, doesn't obstruct actors faces, and the eyes are most relaxed when looking down, not up to the top of the screen. Eye fatigue is common when reading a movie for a few hours and your eyes are dancing all over the place, yet it's easier when it's just from the bottom to the middle of where the action is taking place. I'm hard of hearing, thus I rely profusely on captions. Not everyone looks at the screen when they talk in movies, so I can't read their lips. So please urge them, or you Netflix, allow an option of where to post captions on the screen. This is important to me. I can't watch movies well enough with the captions in the top or middle of the screen. At the bottom, please. When I see some of your movies with the top or middle captions, I usually just stop watching it and put it on my no-watch-list. It's getting all too common.
Come on now, give them some slack. They're new to this production business.
Allow me to add another example here. When people read books or read text from their cellphone, they look down at it. This is not just a privacy reason, this is a biological knowing that, yes, your eyes are most relaxed when reading and looking down. Though when looking down at the monitor screen, you're not so much looking down to a book, you are still focusing downward to a story.
@@vp4744
I just wish there was an option in Netflix to allow you to choose where you want the captions to appear on the screen, as they allow the size and color of it already. That's excellent. I prefer green color of captions because white doesn't display well in some movies that have a lot of snow or cloud in it's environment. Yellow is good too, but green is softer on the eyes after hours and hours of watching movies.
@@vp4744 why should we? We have to pay 18 bucks a month for this crap.
Someone once told me why green is relaxing to the eyes, and that's because much of the forest is green. I don't remember the details of what else he said, my ears are bad. But, yellow, red... stand out too sharp, and eventually fatigue my eyes. So to each your own. Try different colors and see what works for you. For me, also, the captions can't be too large else I'll have to spin my head to gather all the words and then I miss the actor action. This is an issue I wish movie developers would take the time to experiment. I have not being in a movie theatre in a long time because I can't hear actors talking off screen no matter how loud is the sound. Hard of hearing does not necessarily improve with loudness, it's an issue of comprehension. I hear sounds, but language needs to go through another stage in your ears.
This is really cool!
Billie WE LOVE YOUUUU 🙂🙂🙂
Well, that certainly makes me appreciate an artist like Ren that does such mind-blowing one take live songs for his music videos.
That is a lot of effort to make a record. They work hard to get it so nice, congratz to them
I do the same thing, I take the parts of the take I like and mesh them up together. You get a very nice sound doing that.
These two are epic
Great stuff !
I didn’t know this and this is hella useful
Excellent mini explanation. More of this please…they explain the tech SO well. I would watch a Finneas YT “how to be a sound engineer” series.
He's done a bunch already - mix with the masters come to mind. Really insightful stuff.
Awesome!
This is so wholesome! These are all talented people, but if one didnt know better. It could just as easily be a couple of grandkids showing their grandpa but what they are interested in and how it works.
This new voice take and editing technique is a brand new whole information in my life
It’s not new at all, as recording engineers have been doing this since the reel to reel tape days with razors and tape, but it’s cool that you learned about it.
Its been there for decades..
Comping has been the standard for ages, even before computers. Everyone does it. It insures records have the best vocals for every line.
Beardy Letterman is such a kind and curious soul
The talent it takes just to line the takes up is incredible, kudos to Billie and finneas (?) !
So many people defending the video from people calling it fake and yet i can't find a single comment saying its fake. I do agree that 87 takes for one vocal line is excessive but every modern producer and singer tries to make their song as perfect as possible with comping techniques. This only shows that she goes for artificial imperfection instead of natural imperfections.
On instagram she got an shitstorm because of it.
I love her brother
Whuuuuut. That is crazy. TRUE. You WOULD never know.
Different take? The transition is perfect 😭🤌🤌🤌
The really took me back to watching this art major girl I was ‘semi’ dating back in college just editing for hours to get like a 30 second sound clip. Same reaction as Dave lol.
This has also been going on in the movie and TV industry since the beginning. The concept of takes and editing.
All the audio engineers watching this:
"I can show this to people so they'll finally appreciate my wizardry!"
I wanna attend a music production class with billie and finneas soooo baaadddd
I have been recording in a professional studio for almost two years and this is exactly how I record all of my songs!
Wow.. You’re like, really special
@@user-ux1vj9vx7s just like you 😍
Fantastic interview. Thanks again, Dave.
Facts, I comp vocals down to the syllable.
I saw her live performing the song only a couple of nights ago, and she CAN sing. I guess this is just the way things are done in the studio nowadays. It doesn't take away from her artistry or her talent. The fact that she was able to sing different parts and assemble them together only shows how focussed she is to the details of each line she's singing because this is seamless.
billieee♥
And this my friends, is why when you come across an artist that sounds better live than on the record..go with them....
Blliiie ellieh Te amor você Billie ellieh 😖😖😖😖🤝🏻❤❤❤
They make their music....!!!
Modern studio software makes comping easy and fun. To think they use to have to cut and splice together tape to do this is insane.
I’ve done it in the past. It’s definitely a pain in the ass to do it and digital makes it so much easier.
omg, it’s so good 💗
omg i love you
Woah is Letterman fanboying over Billie? Thats so humble of him and it shows you he's really grateful to have her.
Her voice is like butter😢❤️ let me go jump of a cliff, hold on i-
you guys, talking as a musician and a person who knows something about the recording process: it’s a normal part of music production. We want the final product to be nearly perfect and a lot of times your favorite song that you think is so authentic and seems like recorded in one take - is not. Cause recording vocals and producing a track is a hard work and it takes hours of recording, cause we want to deliver the best possible sound to people so they enjoy it 😌
The songs of billie has the magic of soothing your mind and at the same time not making it too down because of her angelic voice 🤍
All anyone has to do is listen to Billie sing that song live and there should be absolutely ZERO doubt that she's "faking" it in the studio.
Guitars, drums, bass, everything goes through the same process, it's why some bands take years to make a single record
People who thinks she is fake should start recording their own songs like she does see how that will workout
Actually she just sings. Her brother records the songs. She's just there.
@@TorrentFiend10 nope they would not be anywhere without each other. She is part of the songs, her attitude, and her voice, and she def helps with songwriting. I used to also think Finneas was the only person responsible for everything until I heard his solo music and the work he did with other artists and realized that it is nothing special. What special is his work with Billie, they both bring the best out of each other creatively it seems.
@@TorrentFiend10 seems like you don’t get how music production works, its okay I don’t either.
@@AzaJabar seems like you assume incorrectly. I'm actually a recording engineer. I've used those tools Finneas does. Lol just a little proper perspective that her brother is actually the one who's recording her singing. Billie eilish has limited skills in that area but probably more limited to something like the tascam handheld recorder they often use catching various sounds etc. She's not operating the laptop and assemble in songs the way her brother can. That takes a much deeper level of knowledge.
They use logic Pro on iOS. Actually I've heard him mention an interviews at a certain point the price for that application dropped greatly and became affordable. I remember that very well back in the day as well. Around that time I was being trained on pro tools so I never got into logic pro. However I do think a lot of people suddenly became capable of affording that software when they did that price drop. Those applications used to be very expensive. Around 800 or 1,000 bucks. At a certain point they came way down and you could get apps like that for a hundred bucks to 400 bucks. That was when he really started learning how to use the software.
@@user-rv7ge1tc4l yes yes congratulations you watched the movie they have. I'm well aware they are both equal parts creators with the content but her creating it keeps it relegated to her mind and her notebook without her brother. If not for him none of it would be recorded at all, or very little. Definitely would not develop into the awesome songs that result from her brothers effort. Without him she would have to find a completely new producer to work with to develop her ideas. He is the main creative force behind what the end result is. However the end result doesn't end up that way without her ideas as well. It's cool that they work together to develop the songs 50/50 but when it comes to making the final product he's like 80% of it.
I wish they released the little song Finneas made. It played at the end of the episode too. It was beautiful 🙁
Letterman has been in radio and TV for years. He probable has a general knowledge about video/audio editing. He helps us the be awed.
David is humbled by the two of them. Rightfully so. They are both AMAZING artists. Not too many real
ones these days.
What’s this I see? Billie and me. This looks so burning.
damn i just don’t know how she got it that’s smooth
I feel your pain I know exactly what it like comping
HER EYES ARE SO BEAUTIFUL SHE DESERVES ALL HER SUCCESS
I've done comping before, but to see the number of takes, yikes! I don't have that level of patience. I do like that Dave truly appreciated it. Can I come by the house sometime Finneas and play around? I would really enjoy seeing how you work.
Alot of people don't do that many.... alot of people don't write songs knowing millions of people will hear it
OMG I would be so excited just to be sitting there and having a friendly chat with the real Santa Claus.
Hi! How are you?
It is especially summer in Korea/Seoul since yesterday. Already.
There was a weather forecast for this summer, but it's faster, longer, and more severe.
I'm worried.
I wish you good health and good things this week as well.
Thank you very much.