Steve Lukather Talks About Recording "Beat It" Guitar Riff
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ม.ค. 2023
- In this episode session guitarist Steve Lukather discusses how he played the famous guitar riff from Michael Jackson's "Beat It".
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Love that last line: "I didn't get hired because I could 'PLAY ALL THIS'..." Nope, Steve got hired because he could tell exactly what a song needed and simply play in the groove. And it was everything for that song.
My thoughts exactly. I think it might be the best line in the whole interview.
What's funny is... he can probably "PLAY ALL THIS" if he wants to.
I think I remember reading or hearing somewhere that Steve Porcaro initially didn't like Luke's muted guitar part in Human Nature. Am I mistaken or was it somebody else that didn't like it?
haha I think he was talking about Michael Angelo
Shredding and musicality are not the same thing. 😊
The last 20 seconds where he plays the “Human Nature" riff epic
God I love this guy. It's not just Luke's skill (which is nuts) it's his ability to be with people. What a national treasure. The world owes this guy a LOT. The joy his playing has brought to us over our lives.
Amen!
First time I saw his old REH instruction video he cracked me up. He was complaining about being broke because he spent all his money on Rack equipment, which he never used. 🤣
Luke will never know what his music/guitar playing has meant to me…what a TREASURE and TALENT he is!
If you can rinse out 16th notes like he can there is nothing you cannot play.
@@winstonsmith8240 Oh yeah, it's great. That's actually the first Bob Bradshaw rig, made for Lukey... the Valley Arts guitars
A national treaure. Steve Lukather. What a storyteller, and he's been a part of so many culture defining moments.
music kinda corny doe :/
Global Treasure. The guitarist's guitarist.
@@seanlawless8711 but see, his work defined entire eras. The era was also corny. Clearly you weren't alive in the 70's 80's
I can’t understand half of what he says, but I just love the way he says it.
@@michaelkelley9096It’s an acquired skill that takes time. 😂
When I was a little girl back in the 80's, I would put the Thriller record on, plug in headphones and just get lost in the music. The guitar parts were so beautifully done that I would listen to the songs repeatedly just to focus on those parts. What I'd give to have been in the studio during those sessions to hear Lukather and Eddie play on those tracks! Even though I've heard that story about Beat It many times, I love hearing it from Lukather himself. What a legend he is!
Hello.
You sound so hot!
Eddie was so fckng tallented, that it was only one set, and the other funny ting is that Steve didn't believe that Quincie call him.
This is his best telling of the Beat It story. Finally the penny dropped here, as to what actually happened and what the problem was. That is an insane story about one of the the most iconic pop songs. Those Toto guys were true magicians. Jeff Porcaro is sorely missed.
I dont get it
@@davidpotvin1516The thing is, that Michael and Quincy needed a guitar parts for this, and Steve and Eddie nailed it almost from the first turn.
Steve Lukather playing that driving riff and Eddie Van Halen comes in and lays down that blistering solo…WOW! 🔥
That riff wasn't there yet.
The song couldn't fail!!
7:05 - "Jeff, the magician, that he was ..." ❤
Man that human nature set of licks is just awesome. So simple yet so much to listen to.
It LITERALLY gave me goose bumps.
@@DonSchenck same
The 1980's were A Golden Age in entertainment - across the board; movies, TV, music, etc. This interview has been educational in shedding light on why - at least a piece to the puzzle. They had a DEEP well of experienced and talented musicians/engineers to draw upon. That's something that took time to develop. If you lived in the 1980's, you were lucky to have been at a moment where a mature musical field met with innovative technology. Truly a Golden Age.
Yes!!!!!
The impact of that track (FM radio at the time) can't be overstated. Brilliant work by Q, MJ, Ed, Luke/Jeff and all involved. No one expected the "Eruption-like" bomb to drop in the middle of a Michael Jackson tune at the time. Now knowing the chaos that was going on behind the scenes in making the song, it's pretty amazing how slick, polished and rockin' it ended up.
@@marktyler3381 And then all those people ate shit. 😆
@@marktyler3381 recording ended Nov 8th, release date Nov 30th. 1982.
@@marktyler3381 That's because people have to be told it is OK to like something before they do, otherwise they face ridicule. The Devil.
More than vague indeed...
@@marktyler3381 Maybe you mean the single of the title track?! That wasn't released until the end of 1983 Internationally and early 1984 in the U.S. Otherwise Vacation Time is right.
Luke is unreal. He brings so much to a story. His talents are unmatched. A true legend and a great guy-it doesn’t get better than that.
@@BonglesYou seem nice🤣
Lukather is one of those musicians I could listen to all day, either playing or just telling stories.
@@michaelmiller6709You like listening to conceited and arrogant people?
I happen to know the man personally and he's anything BUT conceited and arrogant. But I'm sure you're totally beyond reproach in any way. GTFOH@@deepzepp4176
It’s so cool how MJ wrote those iconic riffs, bass lines and rhythms and didn’t play an instrument. That’s genius, like Steve said if it’d been his riff he could’ve been a billionaire. I guess I think it’s so cool because it’s just so everyday man way of communicating ideas all my friends that played guitar would be singing riffs to each other like play that thing you did a few minutes ago that was like diga diga cha do diga bow wa . Except these guys made platinum records from Michael’s vocal scat riffs.
Don’t forget Eddie Van Halen didn’t get paid for it and indeed didn’t ask for money 💰
@@knownpleasures no he was so laid back and didn’t think much about it
@@knownpleasures he said something along the lines of "just working with michael n qunicy was payment enough for him"
He played instruments.
Michael Jackson had a confirmed, official genius-level IQ.
Can any guitar player not envy how this man has lived his life?
Maybe 2. Paco de Lucia and Andres Segovia, oh but then there is Yepes. How could i forget Narcisco Yepes. And for the ladies Lily Afshar. That's 4 that could.
@Tony He made a living as an a-list studio guy, playing with some of the best musicians on the planet, making records with some of the best singers and artists. And then he founded Toto, made hit records, toured the world. That sounds like a pretty good life for a musician to me.
@@jakemitchell1671 I don´t envy his bouts of alcoholism though:)
@@stevehislop Fair enough! lol
MAYBE... Joel Hoekstra. And I say that because he's been on my radar of late. After Night Ranger, he joined Whitesnake, with whom he still tours. But he also plays with Cher, and Trans-Siberian Orchestra, and his trio Revolution Saints. And the Rock 'n Roll Fantasy Camp. The man could retire on his laurels, but he's just out there living his best life. It's like Steve Lukather's on Food Network, playing for everybody in the studio, and Hoekstra's on Travel Channel, playing for everybody on the road.
I always wondered who WROTE the main riff. Incredible to find out that MJ wrote it vocally.
type : beat it demo , all is there
MJ sang his melodies/demos in a tape recorder.
He said he envisioned what the songs HE wrote sounded like in his head. "He had an orchestra in his head."
He couldn't play Alot of instruments but he could mimic them vocally.
MJ was a songwriter too don't forget. he wrote 90% of his hits
@@Akumaten1 Exactly. Michael actually had some experience playing instruments like the guitar and such. But he never had to use them with his songwriting, as his ability to arrange and come up with parts in his head was like no other. And when you had talented people like Steve to put those ideas down and put them down well, it worked out in spades.
Quincy takes way too much credit in the public eye. Jackson created his biggest numbers and composed them
What a humble G.O.A.T.!! Such a great chat Rick. Steve’s the best.
I had to look up what that meant, but yeah.
Luke is one of the all-time greats. But yet so incredibly humble.
He has played on so many other people's records it is ridiculous
My guess is today's music is not cool . You can't catch the heart on a computer . It's the exitment and adventure of being in the same room with other players .
It's hard watching a video with him holding a guitar and not playing it once
@@santosmadrigal3702 Doesn't every musical generation stick it to the next? Worst thing to happen to music was words.
@Santos Madrigal That's not entirely true. A lot of electronic music can be very visceral. Nine Inch Nails - studio/computer. One guy. Downward Sprial is mind blowing. Orbital - Belfast or Halcyon reduces entire venues to tears.
It all comes down to the artist; their music
What is most admirable about Steve is his humility. He for sure must know he is one of the best ever, but he doesnt sell tickets on himself. This is one of the best interviews ever. Thank you Rick and Luke!!
Hearing him talk about the Porcaros is awesome, he’s clearly just a dude in awe of how his buddies were so good at music
💯
@@vulfpecker7371Jeff is sorely missed by a great many.
I can never get enough of Steve Lukather
Man what an incredible musician!
Steve Lukather is one of my top musical heros.
Steve Lukather interview--like hitting the lottery! Every moment is a gem!
Wow micheal wrote an epic guitar part in his head
MJ always did that for the songs HE wrote.
He sang the parts in a tape recorder.
Accidentally finding Steve Lukather changed my mind about recording. Unbelievable what he can do. Simple and creative. It’s like when I discovered Jeff Beck and Gary Moore.
I wouldn't call Jeff's style simple.. lol
@@Xaion6 I wasn’t saying Jeff’s is. I meant how Steve was a huge impact like Gary and Jeff.
@Leonel Hernandez all in good fun! Steve's cool as hell, also makes me happy to know how many appreciate these guys
Legends.
3 of my all-time favourites right there. Great taste man. RIP to Jeff and Gary. 🎸
I couldn’t imagine how many more masterpieces we would have if Jeff was still here. Him and Steve just had this sound about them
You’ve got that right
Eu penso exatamente assim. O quanto esses dois poderiam ter feito.
How can you not hate and love Lukather at the same time. Just the work and raw talent. Unreal.
haha good way to put it
No hate from me, just the love. This is one of the original Masters.
@@valuedhumanoid6574 I use hate very loosely and more in jealously than anything else!! 🤣🤣
@@philviger1894 I know, I was just being factious. But you're exactly right. He does all those riffs and licks so effortlessly and makes you look at your own guitar and wonder what the point is!
@@valuedhumanoid6574 Exactly, and I’m a drummer!! 🤣🤣
This is easily the best interview in this genre (this portion and the full interview) on all youtube maybe for all time. Rick you are as essential to this as Steve is and there is a chemistry that is so engaging. We are in the room with you almost as if we are spending an evening with old friends. This is bottled lightning and definitely a moment in time that won't be duplicated.
It’s a good interview, but greatest interview of all time?? Come on..
Steve, if you see this, thank you for being so completely honest and open, and consequently humble and revealing about your limitations. In this era of everything everywhere, lifelong students of guitar like me get overwhelmed with what we can't do and short circuit what we can do. You are just a dude doing what you can do. What you did right here for music, and for the future of music, is important. I wish you were my friend like 40 years ago. So, that's a big thank you for you being willing to live out just being you.
Beat It & Human Nature are some of my favourite songs from MJ. Killer tracks from a classic album.
What i find special about players like Lukather is that they play to serve the music. There are tons of guitarists that want to be the only guy in the band, but it's how everything blends together that makes that hair stand up on your neck. The simplicity of some of the parts Lukather plays in the background, the huge soundscapes made by Pink Floyd in between the notes, the sounds you aren't paying attention to, there's some real magic happening in the shadows of your favorite songs.
That MJ story is crazy. MJ and Quincy are both kinda known for being really methodical and meticulous and perfectionist. The way Steve described beat it seems way too slapdash, or haphazard for such an absolute beast of a record. Super cool.
Jeff Porcaro is one of those people you would bring back if you had a choice to bring back a favorite musician/person 🕯
He’s my GOAT on drums. Hands down.
That human nature part is one of my favorite guitar parts ever written. It's such a great hook and it's very simple, but hard to nail. I had to play both Beat It and Human Nature on a Michael Jackson tribute gig once and even though I got to play the Beat It solo, I was vibing the most when I played Human Nature. It's harder to nail then you would think by listening to it, because it's so simple, but it has to glue with the vocals and the rhythm section. Such a blast to play with a good band. I love Luke!
I was a cab driver in Vegas, not a thief but just a hard worker, and I picked up Steve, with his wife or girlfriend, from the 4 Seasons and took them to the either the Palazzo or Wynn complex, can't remember. But he was so genuine and authentic. This was in 2017/18, and I had no idea who he was. I knew he was a rock star because he was all done up in the rock star image with the hair etc., and I thought he was Nikki Six from Motley Crue. Sorry MC fans, I was 13 and didn't remember what he looked like. After I googled it I thought he was just some Vegas rocker or something. A couple years later I discover Steve in an interview on Anderton's and I'm like "Wow! That's the guy!"
I had the most recorded guitarist in history in my cab and didn't even know it. Again, we had a great conversation. He and his girl both were so engaging, they asked me how lyft and uber were affecting us, like he actually gave a fig, and just shot the breeze like we were all friends since high school or something. I told him I was a chef trying to start my own business, he liked my idea and wished me luck. The fact he turned out to be who he is makes it even more special. When a person that successful takes their time to talk to people around them, and get to know them without so much as a whiff of arrogance or egotism, it speaks volumes to their character. We had a very natural conversation, and I did start my business. I'm doing great and I often think of these types of interactions I've been fortunate enough to have, where I meet like minded people who are super successful and it helps me stay my course. It reinforces hope that decent people can succeed without forgetting where they came from. I'm very appreciative to Steve for that, so I try to comment this story from time to time when he does interviews. And in this case, refraining from trolling Beato. But just in case Rick's reading this, I only troll the ones I love... ;P Except Steve. I won't troll Steve...
You were 13 and you were a cab driver in Vegas?
This is crazy, one of my favorite guitarist talking about thriller. Even crazier is after thriller came out a buddy and I who were total metal heads were sitting up on Mulholland drive totally cranking Thriller through a 14 speaker system in my buddies car just because Steve and Eddie played on it, over and over the solos and rhythms were completely blown through our ears, we played it to some other cats and they were like " dude that's Michael Jackson, WTH" we rocked that entire CD up and down Sunset Blvd on Friday nights, it was hysterical, people out in front of gazzaris and the whiskey were like " Fuck those guys must like Michael Jackson"
Good times for sure. Thanks Steve and Eddie 🎸🎸✌️
The day I found out Steve played most of “Beat It” except for the shredding part, my young EVH adoring heart felt deceived. But I got over it quickly, because my adult heart was never happier to know that Steve played those parts and further solidified his being the genius and virtuoso that I believe him to be! Steve Lukather is AMAZING!!
What a great bunch of stories! I love hearing Lukather talk about the business.
Let's be honest, I think half of the albums from the 80s should have had appended to them "with Toto."
Met Steve 5 years ago. Super nice guy and made me feel even better about Toto being my favorite band . Hope he keeps making music
Most legendary guitarist alive.. and such a great guy!
Thank you for bringing Steve Lukather in to share some great stories. The gentle, funky guitar riff in Human Nature is the backbone of the arrangement.
I’ve been obsessed with watching Steve Lukather interviews for the last month. Coolest guy on the planet. Love how matter of fact and real he is. Always himself no matter who he’s talking to or what environment he’s in. Very inspiring just as a person. Not to mention as a musician. Thanks Luke!
The guy is a freaking musicial genius! These session guitarists are the music worlds' gift from the gods because they are normally where these super great "hooks" come from! I love how modest he is about not knowing how to do all the (motions tapping & shredding on the fretboard) lol, what a genuine dude!!
Luke is one of the GREATEST ever. An absolute class act. Man could talk a glass eye to sleep but I love him for that. You're a legend Steve!
Love his energy, Luke is one of a kind, humble and talented, forever one of my favorite musicians
Steve's sense of taste, little mini licks..builds such melodic grooves. And the guy just loves life..👍😁👍👍👍
Absolute, total, undeniable Legend. Steve is the very definition of what a musician should be. Its about taste, playing the right notes and understanding the song.
Very talented, cool, humble and earth grounded musician. I once saw him live and after the gig, he simply joined the remaining crowd and we had a little chat together, just like that .. very nice guy!
I really love how the heavier version of "Beat It" could have sounded, but Quincy nailed it by saying to dial it back for the song. Dope!
This is true history and musicology. I'm glad these stories are being captured for future generations.
Luke at 10:20: "...muted parts when you play R&B or anything you're trying to find a little cool part that percolates it along but you're not in anybody's way..." Wow...perfect description of Luke's parts in "Human Nature," "I Keep Forgettin,' 'Pamela.' and so on. What a great guy.
Steve Lukather changed my Guitar playing!
I listend more and more to Lukather, looks how he plays,what he plays.....and it changed all for me because i was only in that shred thing.
And what a nice person!
Rock on!
A Great Human❤Guitar Player of the years with VH FOREVER
Yes more Steve Lukather!
did you see the hour and a half version?
Literally could listen to these guys talk shop all day. My God, the Historical Music experience in that room.
Terrific interview with Steve Lukather. Love how he gives credit, speaks highly of Larry Carlton. Like Steve, one of the best L.A. session players in his era. It was quite an honor to meet Larry back in '92 & 2010. Such a humble gent. First time ever heard Larry Carlton was on one of the early '70s Chamber Brothers LPs my older brother use to often play on his stereo. Like many of the sessions he's done over the course of his career...stunning guitar work, tonality, feel (think B.B. King). Cheers for sharing.
I can listen to Steve Lukather talk music all day long! Such an amazing musician and by far one of the most entertaining individuals to listen and learn from! Someone here said National Treasure and that is just spot on!
Steve is the MAN! Incredibly gifted player.
So much great music that Steve has played on yet so humble.
Steve is such a phenomenal musician. What a pleasure it is to have lived during his career.
I’ll bet he has thousands of these wonderful anecdotes! Thanks for documenting this stuff Rick!
I want to drink 5 or 6 beers with Lukather and listen to all his stories!
Steve Lukather, one of the most intelligent musician, period,
BTW he is the guitarist of Toto.. with songs like Rosanna and Africa
It's such a pleasure to see Steve Lukather shake these riffs out of his guitar as if it's no big deal while having this big smile on his face. Grew up with so many of the hits he played on and as a kid never quite appreciated what a great musician (and a nice guy) he actually is. Love the channel, love the guests. So much good stuff going on here!
You gotta love Luke. An absolute musical genius showing the ultimate respect to four other masters; Michael, Jeff, Eddie, and Steve.
What's better, Luke's guitar playing or his story telling? Masterful at both. So cool getting inside looks that could otherwise be lost. Thanks Rick!
Great interview!! Lukather is a lot of fun and so are you, Rick!! 🙂👍💛
Luk is amaze! His stories are as good as his playing. Legend.
I saw him perform with Ringo Starr a few weeks ago, I can honestly say he is insanely underrated as a guitarist, I can’t believe his name is never thrown in the conversation of guitarist of all time
Dang that last bit was like 4 years of college in 2 min. Love this guy
Just gotta comment that I love Steve Lukather’s solo in the song “Back on the Road” by Earth, Wind & Fire (on the album “Faces”)
....and on "you went away"
@@cameron6249 YES 👍🏼
One of my all time favorites Steve Lukather. Loved the Steely Dan and Michael J stories. Would have loved to hear the rocked out version of “Beat It”.🤘🏾🤘🏾🤘🏾❤️
Just had the privilege of seeing Steve in concert again this past summer with Ringo Starr. The dude is just incredible to watch.
A truly GREAT guitarist! 👍
Wow! Simple, effective, diverse playing in any musical style but especially pop, is still so important. I miss the musicality & creativity in older pop.
I could listen to Steve’s playing and stories all day!
This was an incredible interview - hearing about geniuses of music: Quincy and Michael, the Porcaro brothers, Fagen and Becker , Larry Carlton, Steve Gadd; and to hear this from Steve Lukather! Thank you, Rick.
I can never get enough of Steve LukatherMan what an incredible musician!. Luke is one of the all-time greats. But yet so incredibly humble..
The tale of the re recording by Jeff and Steve is unreal!!
There's such a wealth of musical experience in this one clip for all of us to learn from. Thank you both!
Luke is probably my favourite guitarist. He wasn't massively influential on me growing up... but by god I could listen to him talk music all day... and I don't think there's another guitarist on the planet that plays as incredibly as him.
Steve quote, "If I wrote that, we'd be talking about it on my spaceship with the bread I would have made.." LoL! 😆. Great interview & great that so many musicians have come to Rick to 'flesh out' their musical gifts.
Toto will always be my favorite band and Steve Lukather my favorite guitar player.
Luke is awesome. He loves telling these stories and we love to hear them. The details and situations he talks about are just incredible. These videos are pure fire 🔥
Please make this an ongoing conversation there’s something magical about you guys just sharing stories
I always love the stories from these "hired guns" who recorded so much of the music we love. There are several documentaries about that that are all worth watching for music fans.
That’s wild how they had to piece that track together. But I love how the true top hands are given chords and direction and come up with magic.
What a piece of music history this guy is. He's great, thanks Rick for bringing him here.
@Steve Lukather Well since your account says @davidbryan and It's basically empty wich is strange for being a world rockstar I don't think you are Steve Lukather. But the answer is no. Never been to a Steve Lukather GIG but I was a big fan of michael Jackson and toto in the 80's
I'm up there at 55 years old, and seeing older guys like Rick and Steve able to play and understand music at such a high level is such a pleasure after years of playing and not really knowing what the hell I was doing. What an interesting guy Mr. Lukather is. Off to watch the whole interview.
Luke's the most important musician in my life, I love him. There's not a day I don't hear him play in one of his own or Toto's songs, or even from his work as a studio musician. The man is a living legend!
Steve Lukather = 80's music designer. Genius
Admiro demasiado a este gigante "called Steve lukater"
Fkn awesome interview, so glad Steve is generous with his time to tell us how these masterpieces came together. How great it is to know Mj , EVH , JeffP and Luke contributed to this song that’ll never die 🙏🇦🇺
"The ambiguity lies with who cut the tape." LOL! I love this shit, man!
Bloody genius!!! I ain't a musician or play the guitar but the "toto" musicians are legends!!!
Definitely one of my all-time music heroes since I was a teenager. I love his work and I've been listening to his music so much and for such a long time that I almost feel like I have a personal relationship with him. He's one human being I genuinely care about and I wish him to stay this awesome till his last day. ❤
What a fantastic interview with Steve. This was going back in history, and talks about the "magicians" in the studios.
Wish this was longer! Steve’s humility is gratifying. He is truly one of the best! Ever since my buddy Bobby was picking me up for work 7:00 am after a hard night partying and playing a new cassette he just bought the day before. He popped in the cassette in his mint 70 caddy with a Blaupunk stereo system “Hold the line” one of the best riffs of all time! Loved him since!❤ killer Steve!
This interview was pure joy for me. It's like being in the studio and listening to two great musicians sharing how it went down putting together a classic song. Thanks Rick for posting this very good interview with Steve.
One of my favourite solos, and still is 42 years later, is on The Tubes “Talk To Ya Later”.
I only recently found out that it was Lukather who was responsible. 🎸🎸🏆🏆
I got his book The Gospel according to Luke. Its an awesome read with some amazing stories
Steve Lukather was one of my early influences. I was a teen, now in my mid 50s. I think I had his StarLicks tape. Luke is a genius, bottom line and by far top 10 all time guitar players. I love his personality and instruction. Thank you for you, and of course, Rick, for his incredible productions.
I’ve wondered how it all happened for so long! Thank you Steve and Rick for sharing this with us. What a SMPTE nightmare!