CSM Legionaries make for great Chosen, while the Mark 3 can represent regular Legionaries. That way they still blend with the rest of the CSM Army, and overall will have a slightly less corrupted look which many people feel is appropriate.
Another option for melee focused IW cultists could be Sisters of battle Arco flagellants. They're basically servitors with whips but you could easily swap these out for pistols and autoguns
@@friendlytalbot4050 I made some but added cocktail stick spikes throughout their body to suggest they're chaosy. I painted their skin in pale tones but added blood at the base of each spike to imply the iron warriors don't really care about them, seeing them more as tools than as living breathing things
Nice idea. I like your offer for the characters but I cannot think a better leader for my Iron Warriors that the old Warsmith miniature. Full of bionics and screaming Iron Warrior.
Ah, yeah, but that's very old and OOP. I'd rather not give OOP minis as suggestions. I think a combination of the Siege Breaker Consul with Warpsmiths bits could be a decent leader too.
Found your channel a few days ago and it's been a great help in painting my Skitarii. I also recently started an IW army and then this popped up, great stuff!
I was googling iron warriors conversions and paint schemea etc and I this was my recomendation, your first video that i see but i am sure i will look here often
I can’t get over the fact iron circle was originally ogryn sized in the HH and then they decided to make them the equivalency of knights on the table top.
Absolutely. I play Death Guard myself! Going to take them to a tournament next week with a massive swarm of 60 poxwalkers, 40 cultists and 27 Nurglings
Iron Within is peak IW design. Mk2 and Mk3 armor with the legionary power packs. The Terminator Lord in the animation makes the basic chaos terminators work, since that’s what he’s based on.
Overall good video. I have a few additional ideas. I feel the Cataphron Breachers would be good proxies for Obliterators. For cultists I would recommend Necromunda Orlock gangers. The Hellbrute model could be converted into a Daemon Prince. I would suggest the Space Marine Devastator kit for the legs and heavy weapon options. The 30K MK VI Assault Squad would make a good less corrupted version of Raptors. I highly recommend the 30K legion tanks as proxies for the 40K versions. My Iron Warriors army has fallen into corruption. I may do another using mainly 30K models.
There also was an FW Iron Warrior dreadnought. I'm not sure if that still exist. I still have one of those automatons lying around. Playing it as a demon price is actually a good idea. Maybe it gets build afterall.
iron warriors not being chaos lovers is kind of a new concept being pushed by players and lore ju8nkies but its not rooted in reality. In fact they used to be the POSTER BOYS for chaos legions, complete with horns and everything. They love using daemon engines, and several named characters are known devotees to chaos gods. A good middle ground is that it varies by warband, or that they, like their primarch, believe they are using chaos to their own ends by catching and enslaving demons, cutting off mutations etc.
A lot of your suggestions were cool. But when I think of nurglings I think of little creature things that swarm others. The nurglings you suggested don’t come across as a swarm more as single miniatures better used for non-nurglings.
Absolutely, but there just aren't that many swarms in the GW inventory :( so I would look for other aspects, such as deepstriking and infiltrate instead
theres a piece of lore where Perturabo creates some kinda tech plague from a Nurglite Ritual and from this were born 'glitchlings' basically cyborgy gremlins nurglings use the ones from the gellerpox kill team among your swarm and that could very well work
Could you do this for Alpha Legion as well please? Im starting up an Alpha Legion force and im trying to think of proxies to use for different models. find the fleshmetal/daemonic units less appealing and I want different models to use as proxies.
Yeah, I'm doing some research already. There are quite a few directions to go with the Alpha Legion, so it's hard to trim it down into one cohesive video.
Yeah, they could be! It didn't really occur to me since they are so hunched over. I like the centurions for obliterators though. There is still something living in those suits.
Here is the WarCom article with the Iron Warriors army of Chaos Lord Beard from Table Top Tactics: www.warhammer-community.com/2024/05/13/this-awesome-iron-warriors-army-is-ready-to-bash-your-front-doors-in
The only way to be cost effective and be an iron warriors player is 3d printing. We had a lot of good people doing original stuff before GW cracked down on these independent artists. Without 3d printing the range is limited to upgrade kits and models that are out of scale these days, which is an important factor for many people. The new MK3 kit is also noticeably bigger than the MK4 marines, it's important to be aware of this. People get annoyed at this often enough so we should mention it beforehand. All in all, the upgrade kits are obviously working for both old scale and new scale, but most of the heresy models are old scale, while the new MK3 and MK6 guys (also the current chaos space marine minis) will tower over these. Good video otherwise.
Yeah, but I would rather keep those in a separate video. There are a lot of people that just can't bring 3D printed models to their games because they play in GW stores or strict tournaments. If I would go through a load of 3D printed models in this video they would complain about that. 😀
IMPORTANT TO NOTE: The Horus Heresy Age of Darkness box comes with MK 6(beaky) armor, not MK 4 armor.
Wow, I can't believe I missed that. I'll pin your comment for others to see. Thanks for the info!
Indeed, but you can buy the Legion Asteres box set and it comes with MK3
CSM Legionaries make for great Chosen, while the Mark 3 can represent regular Legionaries. That way they still blend with the rest of the CSM Army, and overall will have a slightly less corrupted look which many people feel is appropriate.
Very good point. And you can still use the additional weapons to kit out the MK III marines.
Another option for melee focused IW cultists could be Sisters of battle Arco flagellants.
They're basically servitors with whips but you could easily swap these out for pistols and autoguns
Very good suggestion! Definitely one I missed and that should be considered. I think you could even consider the Penitent Engines for spawns.
Glad I caught this suggestion. Now that cultists are all melee only, may as well!
@@friendlytalbot4050 I made some but added cocktail stick spikes throughout their body to suggest they're chaosy.
I painted their skin in pale tones but added blood at the base of each spike to imply the iron warriors don't really care about them, seeing them more as tools than as living breathing things
@@the98themperoroftheholybri33 That's really awesome!
Nice idea. I like your offer for the characters but I cannot think a better leader for my Iron Warriors that the old Warsmith miniature. Full of bionics and screaming Iron Warrior.
Yeah, Warpsmiths are the one true characters for Iron Warriors, but I also wanted to offer alternatives to the standard stuff.
@@FogOfGore Not warpsmith, the old warsmith. The chaos warlord of the iron warriors that they used to have.
Ah, yeah, but that's very old and OOP. I'd rather not give OOP minis as suggestions. I think a combination of the Siege Breaker Consul with Warpsmiths bits could be a decent leader too.
What a great video man, can’t wait for the proxy video to come out next week
Thanks man! It's getting edited as we speak!
Plastic Mechanicum for 30k should be releasing within a month or so. Great source of cultists and automata.
Yeah, absolutely. The news about the release came just a little too late for this video.
Found your channel a few days ago and it's been a great help in painting my Skitarii. I also recently started an IW army and then this popped up, great stuff!
Welcome to the channel!
Finally, my algorithm giving me the good stuff from people ive never heard of as soon as it drops. Good content.
That's awesome to hear! Happy to see my videos getting to the right people.
I just made an Iron warriors demon engine by sculpting onto Morvennvhal! And giving her a power hammwr instead of her sword!
That's a brilliant idea! I should have thought of that. The penitent engines could be great chaos spawns or servitors as well.
I was googling iron warriors conversions and paint schemea etc and I this was my recomendation, your first video that i see but i am sure i will look here often
Welcome to the channel!
I can’t get over the fact iron circle was originally ogryn sized in the HH and then they decided to make them the equivalency of knights on the table top.
Will you be doing a similar video for the Death Guard?
Absolutely. I play Death Guard myself! Going to take them to a tournament next week with a massive swarm of 60 poxwalkers, 40 cultists and 27 Nurglings
@@FogOfGore nice
Iron Within is peak IW design. Mk2 and Mk3 armor with the legionary power packs. The Terminator Lord in the animation makes the basic chaos terminators work, since that’s what he’s based on.
Overall good video. I have a few additional ideas. I feel the Cataphron Breachers would be good proxies for Obliterators. For cultists I would recommend Necromunda Orlock gangers. The Hellbrute model could be converted into a Daemon Prince. I would suggest the Space Marine Devastator kit for the legs and heavy weapon options. The 30K MK VI Assault Squad would make a good less corrupted version of Raptors. I highly recommend the 30K legion tanks as proxies for the 40K versions. My Iron Warriors army has fallen into corruption. I may do another using mainly 30K models.
All great suggestions. Thanks for adding it here!
There also was an FW Iron Warrior dreadnought. I'm not sure if that still exist.
I still have one of those automatons lying around. Playing it as a demon price is actually a good idea. Maybe it gets build afterall.
Yeah, that's the way. Glad I could give you some inspiration!
Ursurax would be the IDEAL spawn proxy. Thanks now I've got to buy some hahaha
I thought they look so cool and fitting for some weird proxy!
iron warriors not being chaos lovers is kind of a new concept being pushed by players and lore ju8nkies but its not rooted in reality. In fact they used to be the POSTER BOYS for chaos legions, complete with horns and everything. They love using daemon engines, and several named characters are known devotees to chaos gods. A good middle ground is that it varies by warband, or that they, like their primarch, believe they are using chaos to their own ends by catching and enslaving demons, cutting off mutations etc.
A lot of your suggestions were cool. But when I think of nurglings I think of little creature things that swarm others. The nurglings you suggested don’t come across as a swarm more as single miniatures better used for non-nurglings.
I thought of using necron scarabs for my nurglings.
Absolutely, but there just aren't that many swarms in the GW inventory :( so I would look for other aspects, such as deepstriking and infiltrate instead
theres a piece of lore where Perturabo creates some kinda tech plague from a Nurglite Ritual and from this were born 'glitchlings' basically cyborgy gremlins nurglings
use the ones from the gellerpox kill team among your swarm and that could very well work
I think that the oorlock gang could be good cultist proxies. Doing menial mechanic labour type stuff
That's a cool idea too
The demon prince robot and the possessed bare arm approach were 😗👌chefs kiss good
Thanks!
I love this video idea! Do you plan on doing other legions/chapters/warbands?
Absolutely, I've already done Night Lords as well th-cam.com/video/qnHU2W5rf6Y/w-d-xo.html More to come!
Could you do this for Alpha Legion as well please? Im starting up an Alpha Legion force and im trying to think of proxies to use for different models. find the fleshmetal/daemonic units less appealing and I want different models to use as proxies.
Yeah, I'm doing some research already. There are quite a few directions to go with the Alpha Legion, so it's hard to trim it down into one cohesive video.
the vorax look like a good proxie for obliterators
Yeah, they could be! It didn't really occur to me since they are so hunched over. I like the centurions for obliterators though. There is still something living in those suits.
Here is the WarCom article with the Iron Warriors army of Chaos Lord Beard from Table Top Tactics: www.warhammer-community.com/2024/05/13/this-awesome-iron-warriors-army-is-ready-to-bash-your-front-doors-in
Seems like the sparse representation of Iron Warriors in the product range makes them perfect for converters.
That's a lot of resin!
The only way to be cost effective and be an iron warriors player is 3d printing. We had a lot of good people doing original stuff before GW cracked down on these independent artists.
Without 3d printing the range is limited to upgrade kits and models that are out of scale these days, which is an important factor for many people.
The new MK3 kit is also noticeably bigger than the MK4 marines, it's important to be aware of this. People get annoyed at this often enough so we should mention it beforehand.
All in all, the upgrade kits are obviously working for both old scale and new scale, but most of the heresy models are old scale, while the new MK3 and MK6 guys (also the current chaos space marine minis) will tower over these. Good video otherwise.
You would have thought there would have been some actual proxies rather than just other gw kits.
Yeah, but I would rather keep those in a separate video. There are a lot of people that just can't bring 3D printed models to their games because they play in GW stores or strict tournaments. If I would go through a load of 3D printed models in this video they would complain about that. 😀
Can you do world eaters next please
Heresy era
They are on my list for sure and I'm already working on my converted World Eaters Master of Executions!
Iron warriors Hyper focused on thier self inflicted suffering.
First!