great review. Not a huge fan of sbt style pickups, but this was a very helpful video. I expected a much bigger difference in the sound with different preamps. Honestly direct focusrite sounded best to me followed by the Fishman after you did the adjustment sounded pretty good. All of these are a compomise I guess.
Thanks for this video. I'm wondering how each one would sound after tweaking its eq to get the best tone. Maybe it wouldn't matter that much since they're all going into the AI instead of out the PA. That might be a good comparison too--mic your PA...it might be more "real life" like. Anyway, thanks again.
I am in between pickups since my old Fishman under-saddle died after 23 short years (Out of warranty! ;o) I loved the sound with my system and Pre-amp and have been wanting to decide on the next best route. I have a K&K in my backup guitar and need to see how it responds and figure out the replacement on my primary gigging guitar. Your info us very helpful! Thanks!
I have been looking into the Voiceprint... it uses Impulse Responses. There are other boxes cheaper out there like the TC Electronics Impulse IR (128 bucks) and the NUX Optima Air (179) I'm looking at. Plus, there's thousands of IR files you can download for these. I haven't decided yet!
It is usually not a good idea to completely turn up the volume on a preamp. I find my Pure works well w the K&K preamp just under half (11 o clock). My setup is bass at 10, mid at 10 and treble on 2 o clock. I let the PA or acoustic amp (Schertler) do the rest.
Hey, just installed a pure mini going through my schertler amp and have max the amp completely to just hear the pick ups at room volume. Is this right? Does the pure preamp give it that much of a boost?
@jasper_north Yeah I got a really good one LR Baggs para acoustic d.i, but the k&ks weren't loud enough for a small 20 ppl gig. Had to max everything out so constant feedback issue. I don't quite get the point of them nice sound if you want to plug in quiet at home. I'm getting an under the bridge pick-up fishman with a blend switch added. I reckon it'll be 70% fishman.
Different sounds. I think the K and K sounds more like unplugged…except for a bit of “brassines” in the midrange which I EQ out. I used the Matrix for years in gigs and like it too..has a great sound with my Bourgeois. I’m still working with the K and K…I plan to glue the pickups next…I have them taped now…They came with tape. I want more volume from the K and K.
I agree the Fishman sounded best. (In my photo to the left, I am holding my Bourgeois Vintage D guitar.) Last year I bought an LR Baggs Voiceprint DI that works so great that I sold my Session DI. The Voiceprint DI goes for $429 new so can take a big bite out of your wallet. If you can beg, borrow or steal one, give it a try. They work as advertised. I have no idea how that could be since you start out by recording it through your cell phone mic then send the resulting voice print to your pedal. It seems like different cell phones would give different results but that is just conjecture and like many of my theories, subject to revision. I have a fairly unknown Kyocera brand cell phone because I beat my phones up and Kyocera advertises their phones as rugged, dust, drop/water-proof. The Voiceprint works great with my off-brand phone. At the opposite end of the spectrum, for such a small unit, the TC Electronics BODYREZ does a decent job of enhancing tone but since it has no volume control, it won't boost the signal.
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great review. Not a huge fan of sbt style pickups, but this was a very helpful video. I expected a much bigger difference in the sound with different preamps. Honestly direct focusrite sounded best to me followed by the Fishman after you did the adjustment sounded pretty good. All of these are a compomise I guess.
To my ears there was some sweetness in the mid range on the LR Baggs that wasn't as audible on the others.
Thanks for this video. I'm wondering how each one would sound after tweaking its eq to get the best tone. Maybe it wouldn't matter that much since they're all going into the AI instead of out the PA. That might be a good comparison too--mic your PA...it might be more "real life" like. Anyway, thanks again.
I am in between pickups since my old Fishman under-saddle died after 23 short years (Out of warranty! ;o) I loved the sound with my system and Pre-amp and have been wanting to decide on the next best route. I have a K&K in my backup guitar and need to see how it responds and figure out the replacement on my primary gigging guitar. Your info us very helpful! Thanks!
I have been looking into the Voiceprint... it uses Impulse Responses. There are other boxes cheaper out there like the TC Electronics Impulse IR (128 bucks) and the NUX Optima Air (179) I'm looking at. Plus, there's thousands of IR files you can download for these. I haven't decided yet!
Thanks for the review, well done!!
It is usually not a good idea to completely turn up the volume on a preamp. I find my Pure works well w the K&K preamp just under half (11 o clock). My setup is bass at 10, mid at 10 and treble on 2 o clock.
I let the PA or acoustic amp (Schertler) do the rest.
Hey, just installed a pure mini going through my schertler amp and have max the amp completely to just hear the pick ups at room volume. Is this right? Does the pure preamp give it that much of a boost?
@@jameslloyd949I have the same issue… did you get the pre-amp?
@jasper_north Yeah I got a really good one LR Baggs para acoustic d.i, but the k&ks weren't loud enough for a small 20 ppl gig. Had to max everything out so constant feedback issue. I don't quite get the point of them nice sound if you want to plug in quiet at home. I'm getting an under the bridge pick-up fishman with a blend switch added. I reckon it'll be 70% fishman.
Thank you for your review. Do you like the K&K with the Fishman better than the Matrix you had before?
Different sounds. I think the K and K sounds more like unplugged…except for a bit of “brassines” in the midrange which I EQ out. I used the Matrix for years in gigs and like it too..has a great sound with my Bourgeois. I’m still working with the K and K…I plan to glue the pickups next…I have them taped now…They came with tape. I want more volume from the K and K.
Question, with what cables do I plug the KK pre amp in between the guitar and amp? Is it all ¼ inch?
Like the 2nd one Dave, but what do I know 😂
K&k need 1Mhom, the best preamp for me with K&K is the felix preamp
I agree the Fishman sounded best. (In my photo to the left, I am holding my Bourgeois Vintage D guitar.) Last year I bought an LR Baggs Voiceprint DI that works so great that I sold my Session DI. The Voiceprint DI goes for $429 new so can take a big bite out of your wallet. If you can beg, borrow or steal one, give it a try. They work as advertised. I have no idea how that could be since you start out by recording it through your cell phone mic then send the resulting voice print to your pedal. It seems like different cell phones would give different results but that is just conjecture and like many of my theories, subject to revision. I have a fairly unknown Kyocera brand cell phone because I beat my phones up and Kyocera advertises their phones as rugged, dust, drop/water-proof. The Voiceprint works great with my off-brand phone. At the opposite end of the spectrum, for such a small unit, the TC Electronics BODYREZ does a decent job of enhancing tone but since it has no volume control, it won't boost the signal.
The Fishman was best, I thought the Scarlett was great and the K and k may have been a bit dull.
nice pickup .. i just wonder if the k&k mini works well also with my fishman aura d.i. .. 😮
Cool!!
I always use Fishman pickups in my acoustic guitars. Like the sound best over the other brands. Just my opinion.🎸🎸🎸