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@@terenceoneil7670Turk bought a GTO with bonus money from Boston we went to Sherkton Beach every day
@@terenceoneil7670 Don't be mean to him.
@@dustinrood8266 ok I removed it
@@dustinrood8266 he almost made me cry..
I remember shedding tears as a 10 year old when my Bruins lost some games. I met Derek many years later and he showed me his Stanley cup ring. Bruins fan for life!
thats dope dope
bob probert is from my home town. when he came home and went back to the arenas he never left till all the kids had a pic or a autograph
Met Ace Bailey at a parade in Lynnfield in the 70's. As you know Ace died on 9/11.
Same here grew up watching channel 38 with Fred Cusick and Johnny Pearson!
I remember Sanderson story about when he realized he had a problem. He asked a homeless person for a drink of his booze, the homeless guy said no, and Derek said "Do you know who I am?" The homeless guy said "Yeah a bum just like me"
BIG L hehehe
Sanderson was my favorite in the early 70s, and his story is a sad, all too common one for many athletes. When he grew up, he became a financial advisor to help other athletes avoid his troubles I believe.
thats a good turn of events though, righT?
Derek is something else. I have a Sanderson sweater, '71 season, year of my birth. I don't have it because of his fights and craziness. I have it because of his Helpers. And while he did have the best assist ever in the NHL that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about all the kids he Helped after he retired. And thank God for friends Derek could count on even if he wasn't looking for help himself, friends like Bobby Orr.
true... thanks for sharing. he lived to tell the tale and educate others.
johnny hawkey led me here. Great channel
thanks man! i appreciate you saying that. much love to johny. i will do my best making the best nhl content out there too! much love to the hawkey fam
Back in the late 60s to early 70s it seemed like the CBS network Saturday afternoon NHL games always featured the Bruins. To this day I can name about a dozen guys on their 1970 roster. As a 16-19 year old teenager in those days, I was a Sanderson fan. Not surprising, I was also a Namath fan at the same time. Both were "cool guys". I remember that Sanderson would compare himself to Namath on the Tonight Show. A bygone era.
You are right seems like the Bruins were always on TV and also the Jets..of course that was before Sunday night football Monday night football thu night football and cable tv
It was Sunday afternoon on CBS.
thanks for sharing the story! Love it.
true
in boston we all loved derek. i had never heard the name derek before him but it became a popular name for couples to name their children it seemed. i have a nephew with that name. there's a picture of him on the ice in uniform and leaning against the boards taking a break and smoking a cigarette, very cool looking, 'everybody talking at me'.
hehe right?!hello mr cool guy
Once was ahead of his time. Best face off and short handed center sweep checking
It's so heartwarming that such a big star could still fuck things up so royally. Whadda putz he was off the ice.
right.... insane, whats the cause of that you think?
@@icebox.hockey Well, his alcoholism, which is a disease but not well acknowledged back then, but I remember we felt he got just a bit too cocky for his own good. Rumour was he turned into an A'hole, and it caught up with him. He seems to be good these days, so good for him. He was a helluva hockey player.
"Behind the net to Sanderson to Orr! Bobby Orr SCORES and the Boston Bruins have won the Stanley Cup!"
Greatest goal in NHL history
sweetest memory, goosebumps?
It was a big goal, but certainly not a great goal. I've seen hundreds better from the likes of Gretzky, Lemieux, Crosby, Ovechkin, and McDavid.
I saw it as it happened. As a Rangers fan, I wasn't thrilled by it at the time. But, it was the greatest and Orr's statue in Boston is very cool.
Thank God for AA and hockey.
No amount of stardom can overcome an addictive personality
What is an "additive" personality?
addictive?
true... see it often enough
He showed up at a Canuck training camp in Duncan BC… think in 78?
He was living in a Winnebago. Apparently it was a party each night.
worth it?
If it wasn't for expansion in 1972 and the WHA starting up those Bruins team could have won 5 cups in a row. That upset in 1971 against ken dryden and the habs still hurts
I'm from Philly and Flyers fan and you are so right. The WHA destroyed the Bruins and the Flyers never beat them in 1974. The Flyers got Bernie Parent back who they traded in 1971 and the Bruins lost McKenzie, Sanderson, Cheevers and Stanfield to the WHA.
@@jameshoran8 Not to mention Orr getting injured and Ted Green suffering a concussion
would have been insane....
@@jameshoran8 bruins actually traded stanfield to the Minnesota north stars for goalie gil Gilbert to try and fill the hole cheevers created by leaving. The bruins lost sandy, westfall, Walton, McKenzie, stanfield. 5 out of their top 9 forwards. Along with some top prospects that they could of used to help fill holes.
@@michaelcanney7218 Game 6 in the Spectrum was electric with Kate Smith singing God Bless America. Orr and Espo showed their class by shaking her hand as she was leaving the ice. I played golf in the 80's in Andover with Derek. It took him 5 minutes to catch my Philly accent and asked if I was one of his hecklers. I told him "no," but told him he and Bobby always signed my program in the bus tunnel at the Spectrum. Espo was a jerk and wouldn't sign anything. That happy personality was just a big facade.
If Sanderson took better care of himself, he might be in the Hockey Hall of Fame.
You are absolutely right, Steve , he had the talent . Correct me if I am wrong; I believe he fed the "perfect pass" to Bobby Orr to win the 1970 Stanley Cup over the St . Louis Blues
@@frederickloucks4865 Sanderson had an assist on Orr's Cup winning goal in 1970.If You check Sanderson's statistics You will see he had good offensive stats. He rarely played on the power play. He was 1 of the greatest penalty killers and face of artists ever. He scored 202 goals in 598 regular season games, and had good playoff stats. Sadly, he was his own worst enemy.
He got sober, which considering the alternative, is better than the Hall of Fame!
@@Mark-pp7jy Sanderson, with the help of his friends, saved his life!
@@seveglider8406 I've been there. I understand.
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thanks randy, appreciate you being here!
There were lots of good stories from the WHA that sort of got glossed over, but it's understood there's only so much you can put in a 10 minute video. The only hockey book I've ever read was "The Rebel League: The Short and Unruly Life of the World Hockey Association" and it had the better part of a chapter dedicated to Sanderson. He was known to haul hay around his farm in his Rolls Royce because all of his farm equipment had been repossessed. He also had a contract at one point during his WHA days where he'd only play home games.
thanks for sharing
The 60's and early 70's back when hockey was great. Each team had their own personality and each team had personalities. Now they all play the same game.
why you think that was better?
At least he recovered...
true. and lived to tell the tale to others
I think he was a big jerk. When he first came up, he was targeting Gordie Howe. I shed no tears for him.
roughhh
Agree....He was a jerk on and off the ice....a pathetic clown
@@Vezzo55 so was everybody on your team
Excellent point. For some foolish reasoning, some people adjust their filter for the sake of entertainment. The only excuse those writing in such a sympathetic manner toward him is based on that entertainment. If not for that, none of them would care in the least.
So what. He went after Howe. Gordie Howe just another Player. Good or bad Sanderson was just doing His job.
Never remembered Turk playing with the Rangers but I do remember the Rangers putting a bounty on his head when he was a Bruin. Go Figure"
they cominnnn for him
"Sanderson being double teamed and here we go"
Turk was much more than the best 3rd line/checking/faceoff winning center of his era...he was the total package; a Calder Trophy, (Rookie of the Year) winner, a skilled goal scoring/playmaker, a very tough, capable pugilist & perhaps above all, a team player.
He never drank alcohol or used drugs until the NHL, unfortunately, his addictive challenges, coupled with fame & fortune, derailed his life for far too long. When he signed with the WHA, Philidelphia Blazers, in 1972, he became the highest paid athlete in the WORLD, for about a week, until Pele surpassed him.
☆ The Bruins were my team back then, Espo was my favourite, Johnny Bucyk, their Captain, was from Edmonton. I own 3 Bruins jerseys...
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thanks for sharing
He had two best seling books. Best third string centre ever.
true! did you read them?
@@icebox.hockey Yes. I was a huge fan and got to meet him. Although I admit Jacques Lemaire should have won the rookie of the year instead of Turk.
The most memorable scene in the book was Sanderson being woken up drunk on a beach and asking the person "Do you know who I am?" and the man replying 'Yeah, your a drunk like me." Sanderson said that's when he began changing his life around.
Sanderson was playing in the very first NHL game I ever attended between the Leafs and the Blues at Maple Leaf Gardens in the winter of 1976. The game turned out to be a snoozefest 2-2 tie.
ZZZzzZZzzzzzz thanks for sharing!
00:13 BOBBY ORR!😃🏒🥅
You must be referring to Saint Robert Gordon Orr, the best player to ever play. 👍
Back in the day my father used to pick up incoming away teams at the airport in Toronto. He would then bus them usually to that hotel on Front St. One time he recalled the Bruins player Sanderson's luggage was a whole rack of expensive suits
dope story thanks for sharing.
That the cleaned-up Sanderson became a bank executive makes this story makes this story 10,000x more WTF.
right lol? wht a rollercoaster
He wrote a book with Kevin Shea titled Crossing The Line: The Outrageous Story of a Hockey Original, he goes into detail about his time playing hockey, his battles with addiction, and how he built a better life for himself after he came back from rock bottom.
It's a fantastic read, I would strongly recommend reading it if you're at all interested in hockey psychology or the players of the 70s.
I've got to be me is better
You should do a story on Joe Murphy - former #1 pick, Stanley Cup Winner. It is quite sad. There are a few TH-cam videos on him and on people interviewing him on the street. You can still see him at times hanging outside the Canadian Tire store in Kenora, Ontario. For a good read on him, you can find the book titled Finding Murph.
yeah dude good one! thanks for sharing. i had a video of him on my previous channel with over 100k views (called icebox too) but that channel got deleted so had to start over. i see if i can find that vid and reupload or remake it. thanks for the input! talk soon
7:00 Turning point
thanks for timestamp
No mention of his career as an analyst for New England Sports Network (NESN)
needed?
Best hockey era was the late 60's and early 70's. Habs and Bruins rivalry was incredible and it was a true passion for their respective fans. Derek Sanderson was certainly the best face-off player in the history of the game. I remember being in BeanTown and getting a tour of the old Boston Gardens. The guide told me that during the playoffs staff would shut down the air conditioning on the visiting Canadiens just to make them suffer a little more during those warm & muggy spring nights. Ha Ha ... gotta support your team somehow eh??? 😁
its all about the mind games :P
The game today is so much better in every way it can be fun to watch the old classic games as a sort of slow motion comedy. They look like beer leaguers playing in slow motion, but the flowing bad hair and those dreadful moustaches make it hilarious.
@@vangroover1903 Says an anonymous nerd.
@@nkmcfrln Its nice to hear you agree.
@@vangroover1903 I’m agreeing that you’re an anonymous nerd. Not with your comment.
one of the best in his day was Derek Sanderson!
what makes you think that?
@@icebox.hockey I watched Derek, he was exciting, decent scorer, helluva playmaker and helped promote the game in terms of charisma and style in the U.S. He was good for Hockey. On the big bad bruins it was Orr, Esposito and then Sanderson.
If any hasn't read Derek's book, you should. It's the best hockey book of all time
good one! thanks for sharing
I’m from Chippawa NF. I grew up with Derek’s sister Karen’s kids and my Dad grew up with him and Freddy Wills.
If Dada and Susan read this…miss u guys from the ol’ hood 😘Burkey
Derek wrote a book, a good one about his career and life. Wish I could remember the title, but check it out if you can find it!
I've got to be me
If johnny hawkey backs you then you must be good. lets see what you got
Thanks brother, will not dissapoint and bring you fire content
As a canadiens fan I couldn't stand the bruins, but I had to appreciate the talent they had when hockey👊 was fun to watch. Orr and Esposito were quite something along with Sanderson who was his own worst enemy. He dug himself out of his grave, and Orr had the shovel.
Why didnt you like the Bruins?
@@MrJohnnyDistortion
If you need to ask, you don’t get it❓
🤜🏻Being a Bruins fan, I was the same…
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@@loilt5091
I wanted your reason/reasons and not my speculation.
I live dead center of Boston & Montréal, 185 miles to each city from where my home is. Half of our lil town, 10,000 population go for Boston, the other half Montréal, no lie. Born in 57, I've been huge habs fella my whole life, so was my family, lol. But did I enjoy watching the Bruins too. Those were the days my friends! Oh ya,,go habs go😃
@@MrJohnnyDistortion the bruins and the canadiens were the teams when I was a kid in the 70s and looking back, they still are some of my favorites all- time. And I'm from St.Louis
So much more room to score as the goalies used deer hair pads. These pads would get heavier as the game went on. Now goalies have light weight equipment and they fill up the holes in the net. The goalies are also much bigger
5:40 Damn paper
sad reality...
Met Sanderson at his club Zeldas in Boston in 74. Didn't care for him or his disco.
hehe why not
@@icebox.hockeythis guy he was with, took the film out of my camera. No pictures no autographs. He was cocky and he thought he was so smart. Most hockey players signed autograph or a picture with them. Not him. He was a talented player but nothing else. When he lost everything it didn't surprise me. He should kiss bobby orrs ass.
I was in high school and went to a sub sandwich shop in Boston, I see this guy pull up out front,he gets out of a Lincoln Continental (68 or 69 ) walk in and get a sub......it was Derek Sanderson
was the sub nice though?
Yea, they were known for being the best....can't remember the name of the shop but I think it was in Brighton Allston somewhere.....long time ago lol
Sanderson was okay. The Bruins were and still are a popular team, but being called ''the most popular team on the planet'' is obviously a wild exaggeration. Then again,the narrator comes from a country where hockey is hardly popular.
what makes you think that?
@@icebox.hockey Well,when I think about it now,I guess the narrator was placing himself in the moment: the Bruins had just won the Cup. He was in the moment. For a brief time they were champs,so that made them popular. ''Most popular'' on the planet?'' Which planet?
I HATED the Bruins, and I HATED Derek Sanderson.
You see, I am a Rangers fan.
makes sense
If you looked up Playboy in the dictionary you would find Sanderson's picture.
Afraid of flying but not afraid to play hockey without a helmet
makes sense right :P
@@icebox.hockey hockey was invented before the helmet though you might know that
What!!!!! And ruin his hair!!!
Why is there a Limey talking about hockey?
How many goals did Bobby Orr against his own team. Do you know how many goals he got?
do you?
@@icebox.hockey I think it was only one. He told the Boston goalie” Jesus Christ. I thought you were good … then he says I was even trying something like that. “
and thus we see being gifted does not make one immune to being an a-hole
The narration is straight from Wikipedia.
we get our content from multiple sources, his life story indeed is on there too
Helped set up one of the more famous goals, fell off, and then became a company owner.
smart or not?
@@icebox.hockey smart
Sanderson could have been as good as Bobby Clarke.
could have, would have, should have :(
My father drank alcohol with Derek in Swampscott Massachusetts at a place called "The Willey House". Dad said that Derek passed out on the floor.
so your dad caused his downfal?! JK haha thanks for sharing
@@icebox.hockey
You betcha, blockhead. Yuckaluckaluckalukalukaluk.
@@icebox.hockey
Derek said your sis was on it like a one eyed alligator in a meat market. 🐊
all of that American cash💲💰 spread
Out on the Bruins dressing room floor
The Bruins number i see showing through
all that cash is # 4 not # 16 😎
what makes you think that?
It was a bet Sanderson lost to orr and he payed him in one dollar bills
@@michaelcanney7218
What was the bet?
why do all the old time players look so old?
because they older than the new players
I think there's more stories of ppl going broke than ppl becoming rich ... and it's all a mentality. Which is sad. Can be rich in your mind with knowledge and love to fulfill the emptiness ... money will never fill up the emptiness in your mind and lack of knowledge and love in your life ..
No. It's because the Federal Government leeches have created so many methods (that constantly change) to separate people from their money that you have to employ accountants 'round the clock to protect it from those vultures!
true... sadly, most find out too late it seems
if you had to win a faceoff or help kill a penalty he was the guy to have out there.
why was that/?
@@icebox.hockey because he was a skilled player, deft stick handler and could be as slippery as a mississippi sturgeon.
Btw I've been sober for just over 4 years!
I remember him well in Boston. Funny story. I was listening to Calling All Sports one night on WBZ with Guy Manila. Some guy called in to complain about how crazy Bruin fans were about Sanderson. The caller said he saw Sanderson at a restaurant and touched him. The girst at his high school wanted to kiss his hand the next next day. Manila, without missing a beat, said "you should have lied and said your lips brushed across his jacket." In Philly, where he was a bust, they called him the "hairy fairy." A different era.
thanks for sharing, appreciate it
Alcohol+drugs=headed for the gutter
Thrill seeking, fast living, drugs or alcohol. Too bad. I don’t feel bad for these athletes that do this. Most (60-65%) of the NBA players (with much higher salaries) become broke within 5 years of retirement. In spite of coaching, financial counseling etc. 78% of NFL players have financial crisis’ within 5 years of retirement. It’s a shame.
those are crazyyyy numbers... wow
ya can take the playa outta the hood but ya can't take the hood out of the playa
so where is he now in 2023?
you tell me?
@@icebox.hockey hell if i know
Boston
Bobby Orr went to New York City and get them back to be a human being again.
The most popular Hockey team on the planet?
At the time they were. Hockey started to become very popular in the 69-70 season and the scoring juggernaut Boston Bruins were the poster boys for the NEW NHL. They were the greatest show on ice.
@scott o'donnell true. They were like the 86 Mets . In every way. Except, ya know- different sport. 😀
@@scottodonnell7121 And the toughest team ever.
@@johnbrowne3950 Yes, their bench=clearing brawls were a major attraction
@@scottodonnell7121 Montreal vs Quebec brawls were pretty good as well.
Bruins should have won more cups
what makes you think that?
The reason they did not was that they lacked discipline
@@samkohen4589
Somewhat like the Oilers, later, including losing players to the WHA...Edmonton, a cash challenged owner, prematurely demantling a Dynasty.
Derek Sanderson, Gerry Cheevers, Ted Green, Mike Walton, Wayne Carleton, Rick Smith, Johnny McKenzie + draft pick, HOFer, Mark Howe...including a perenially injured, Bobby Orr.
@@loilt5091 Edmonton was a WHA team until their merger with the NHL in 1979. They had a great team winning 5 Stanley Cups in 7 years until owner Peter Pocklington destroyed the team.
@@samkohen4589
I was there, in the building, May 19, 1984, when WE won our 1️⃣st Cup. Standing between both team benches, as Messier got the Conn Smyth, MVP trophy.
👉🏻Had a season ticket during most of the ‘8️⃣0️⃣’s.
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Who cares
Terrible editing on this video. How about showing the video clips of the teams matching the narrator talking? Not showing Boston clips when he's talking about him being in Vancouver, etc etc etc.
thanks for the input, i will do better. anything else?
What a waste of time this was.
I have not the least sympathy for this father-spoiled adult that remained a child . . . . .
what makes you think that?
You obviously don't know the whole story. Sympathy, no. Redemption is possible for us all.
@@markg.4246 .... You might be right. ... I say that redemption is possible for many... but not all. In contrast, look at Chris Nilan.
@@34Packardphaeton Agree. Redemption is possible if someone wants it, and is willing to amend their behavior. "Sorry" doesn't cut it.
Serves him right. Drunken bum smoking & drinking his life away. Have another party Derek!
As a Ranger fan back in the day I always thought he was an A-hole. Guess I was right all along.
why's that?
He was a weasel who would tell lies about his teammates just to draw attention to himself.
I stopped the video at the point that it mentioned how he played hockey on an outdoor rink his father built and maintained in Niagara Falls, Ontario. i also as a kid, same age as Derek, played hockey on outdoor rinks near Niagara Falls, Ontario. NO MORE, do to climate change you CANNOT have an outdoor rink here in Southern Ontario. For the last decade building and maintaining an outdoor rink was very difficult and near impossible. Look at this year TOTALLY IMPOSSIBLE. Just a thought and now back to the video.
RIP climate RIP ICE