@@tka4nik Sure just as simple as always having 100% accuracy. Considering the 'common sense' in PS2 is that Magriders are hard to hit, demanding people to hit 100% of the shots against Harassers that are harder to hit is just a bit funny to me. Harassers in general needs a decently sized nerf, right now they are basically as tanky or better than MBTs(Prowler/Magrider) and just straight up tankier than Lightnings. I wont bother spamming the math behind it but if you dont believe me just look up the damages and damage resists... but yeah its basically tanks take +50% damage from tank shells while Harassers only take +20% damage from tank shells = Lightning AP needs 5 hits to kill a Comp armor + Fire suppression Harasser and it takes 5 hits to kill a Prowler/Magrider on the front/side armor or 4 rear hits = its faster to kill a MBT from behind than killing a Harasser. Also if anyone wants to know how to kill Vulcan Harassers with a Lightning, use the Viper turret instead since you can kill Harassers with just a single reload if most of the first 6 shots hits and Vulcans likes to get close which gives you a decent go of just full auto dumping the shots into them, either they run or you kill them ~4 seconds later.
One point id like to make, is as a gunner, especially when vehicle hunting: dont fire at everything that moves just because you can. You will often give yourself away, and ruin any flanking opportunity. Only fire when you know you can land your shots, or when the enemy already knows you are there.
I have to remind my gunners of this so often. That and "Gun forward!". Stop looking at that random ESF flying behind us and shoot the tank in front of us.
Getting into a random player's gunner seat and going on a huge rampage together is some of the best memories you can make in PS2. I wish more people left their vehicles unlocked when they have open slots
Gate shield diffuser has helped me so much more that fire suppression. Let’s me chase hurt vehicles behind gate shields or bio labs when they think they are safe. I can counter turbo ANTs, GSD means I take no ram damage but they still do It’s easier to win harasser 1v1’s if I can ram into them If I flip upside down, GSD prevents the harasser from taking damage for 15 seconds, giving me enough time to unflip it And most importantly is after activating GSD, I can wedge the harasser right under a magrider and absolutely bully them because they cant hit me while my gunner destroys them
I've been a bit hesitant to use the harasser or mbt's because i usually play solo and can't gun and drive at the same time. But i'm always up for gunning on the other hand. Excellent point about picking up random gunners, i'm gonna try that and start certing out some 2 man vehicles now that i have my classes pretty well equipped anyway. Thanks!
People really get in the harasser. Use the horn and you'll see. If I'm playing solo I use the walker gun - the harasser becomes a mobile AA platform. Sometimes I survive 15 minutes in it and "clear the skies".
That, and if you're careful, solo harassing is pretty viable. Ya just need to be quick on the F1/F2 seat swap, or rebind those keys if ya have spare mouse buttons. A solo kobalt or halberd harasser is great for locking down choke points.
@@themanwithnoname3989 I always find the best farm comes from solo run dual person vehicles. The lightning will outgun both solo harassers and solo MBTs. The only thing easier to farm than the two of them are saunders. You'll also find that the sky guard makes a far better mobile AA gun then the harasser.
@@iller3 There isn't any set category, and it is a value they can change by simply editing a few numbers. The relevant info can be found here. planetside.fandom.com/wiki/Vehicle_armor_and_damage_resistance
@@CMDRCyrious To my knowledge, the only vehicles that take directional damage are tanks (MBTs and Lightnings; Sunderers had that aspect removed a while ago), and thanks to a quirk in the game engine, it's where you're located in relation to the vehicle when firing that determines the locational damage, not where your shots actually hit.
The first vehicular experience i had in planetside was in a harasser as a gunner for someone who just rolled up like you yourself do. It was a blast, I missed almost every shot but it was great, harassers are my favorite vehicle now
Love the shout out to let the rando low level run gun around with you. I still remember well the first time a veteran driver pulled up and I got in. Boomboxing around Indar. Good times
My anti harasser tactic as a Heavy is to use AV grenades. Throw your grenade before shooting your launcher (decimator). Since grenades take a few seconds before exploding, the harasser driver wont react until it gets damaged and this will give you time to hit with your launcher almost at the same time as your grenade explodes. This combo deals about 68% harasser damage and 1 extra shot from an ally or yourself will end it.
There is one very important thing to know in the Scrapper vs Racer discussion. Racer is only 6 km/h faster than Scrapper. It is almost non-existent. Try it out, race 2 Harassers one with Racer one with Scrapper. The advantage Racer is supposed to give you is irellevant compared to Scrapper.
Some tips from me as well to any other Harasser Driver/Gunner. The Halbred might be more suited for AV but with an accurate gunner it will 1 shot infantry at any time be it body or head shot... Not sure for MAXes though, need to check that. Gunners and Drivers, know when to press F3 to take out your repair tool to fix your car. This usually applies to when you're running away like over hills and such. Generally it's the gunners job to help here since running away means unstable shooting though drivers can also do this if they know they've got an experienced gunner since they're usually more accurate. One such example was the last clip Cyrious showed, you can see the someone shifting to the open seat for repairs when in a safer area. Drivers always go in third person, better situational awareness and seeing any oncoming bumps, hills, trees and etc. Gunners can go third person to help scope out where the targets are if you've got none but switch back to first when shooting, better shots usually.
I like to have my repair tool out before jumping on the gun so it's ready when I hit the back seat and I don't lose any time switching. When I drive I usually keep my side arm out, but it depends on what's up top and who's gunning. Will I need to jump out and engage a driver that bailed? The Archer isn't so good in those situations and I don't want to try and repair them to death... again. Oops. That guy is probably still laughing about that.
One thing I can recommend for general harraser driving: For the love of god, vanu, spaghetti monster, whatever your believe is. DO NOT use the harraser as a tank, don't try taking MBTs head to head, try to flank them, take out vehicles that are smoking. And this is more for NC's case, but still for everyone, if you are driving, please try to drive in flat ground so the gunner can aim better. Also, please dbg, give Enforcer back it's original reload mechanic, now it just a worse Halberd, and Canister is just another boring shotgun
That was really helpful, thank you! Harasser is my favourite kind of fun these days. It doesn't matter much which seat, even 3. The problem is that I play solo 90% of the time so I don't really know what the expectations of other drivers / gunners might be. When to jump out and repair and when to get back in was excellent advice. I've often struggled picking the priority target from either seat. The debate around when to reload VS when to empty the mag VS when to repair I will likely always struggle with because "target focused" is a real thing. Your advice to keep shooting was great. That tip about pulling a flash right after was GOLD! Newbie tip: A bad gunner is still more fun than no gunner at all, so "Get in and man the gun!" We have some fun with a 3 player flak buggy. The NG (usually me) sits in seat 3 and reps (I'm the only one with Jockey). The driver and gunner both play heavy with lock on launchers. When they jump out to fire at the Mosquito, I jump on the gun. "Take that, blood sucker". Good times.
I don't have the most experience on the Harasser but I'll try to give my VS Specific thoughts. Aphelion VEX-4: The closest thing VS has to a Vulcan, so I'll try to compare and Contrast. CONS: Half the fire rate and Magazine size. It also blooms harder, so getting hits is far more important. PROS: Higher damage per shot, Overall tighter firing cone (I think) Every six shots you can release the trigger to send out an Arc 800 damage shot which sounds better then it is. Overall the Aphelion is a harder to use and pull off Vulcan. You want to get in close and hammer something hard and Skedaddle before his mates notice. The Charged arc shot is only really useful and Mid-Range, if you're in close combat just hold it down till it runs dry. A short-Range Anti-Vehicle weapon that does okay against other targets and at Mid-range Proton II PPA: Anti-Infantry Very Eh, We don't pull it terribly much. It takes 4 shots to kill a target, but at anything other than close range the bloom will kick and throw your shots wide well before that fourth shot. It can be useful for suppressing an area/Door/Lane. Much like it's Handheld cousin (the Lasher) But honestly just pull the Kobalt or Basilisk, You'll get far more consistent results at different ranges and the basilisk is far more versatile Saron HRB: Mid-Long range Anti-Vehicle weapon. Really solid, I quite like it. The first shot is pinpoint accurate but subsequent shots can get very inaccurate. Unlike the PPA however, you're supposed to be shooting at Vehicle sized targets so it's less of an issue. If you maintain a steady fire rate the bloom isn't an issue and this can be a really powerful long range AV weapon it's actually not terrible against infantry/MAXs if you can hit targets too. Just stay in control of the bloom and you'll be fine. This is a must for a dedicated AV Magrider as well.
As a harraser driver/gunner who primarily uses the aphelion you can kill a sunderer in one magazine without magazine increase with the burst. You also don't need to wait to start firing, just treat it like burst firing let go then immediately start shooting again. Your bloom resets immediately, meaning you can use it at longer ranges than the vulcan and mojlnir.
Things the TR do better than anyone: MAX suits, Harassers, and air superiority (they can actually pick and choose their fights). Things they do badly: Tanks, CAS (the Reaver is just better for air-to-ground and the VS have the PPA and the highest DPS rocket pods), and Infantry (the NC has guns that easily compete with TR guns at every range, even CQC).
I am and have been primarily a harasser gunner for a good while now. It’s my preferred gameplay for sure. While I agree you can pick up a rando or jump in a random harasser and have a lot of fun, but there is nothing like having a full time driver that you have good coms with. After a while you just become ‘one’ with each other. My driver is very aggressive and likes to get in the middle of things, submits to his bloodlust for road kills which just aren’t what they once were, they really need to fix that... Most tanks can’t turn fast enough to counter us in CQC situations. They are most deadly at range and it is almost always running away in a straight line that will get you dead when fighting tanks. I pretty much use the halberd 100%. Sniping infantry with just feels so dang good. I have killed a lot of everything with it. So many ESF’s fall prey and will get inside my elevation angle, and boom... They don’t realize how deadly a halberd harasser is to them until it is too late. I won’t knock anyone else’s play style, but to me, the Vulcan just feels too easy and isn’t as satisfying and all the other guns just don’t cut it for me. A bulldog on a battle bus is pretty fun though.
great vid, I definitely suffer from the "gotta go fast" instinct I picked up from playing lights in mwo, so I've instinctively known I need to slow my roll to allow my gunner to get more hits, but your vid expressed it so overtly that I feel I must actually make an effort moving forward. I ran a late night harasser squad for a while last spring and it occurred to me that you may benefit from a medic driver as the gunner or rumble seat repairman could take damage back there and triage might be benefiicial. I have never squeezed the trigger on that idea because I rarely have the 3rd seat occupied so i prefered the ability to hop out and repair. but I always assumed that the driver being able to keep people repaired or even hop out and rez a downed engi might be beneficial. dunno, 3rd seat happens so rarely that I never really go past the concept phase. similarly I like the idea of at least one harasser pilot having the logistics expert implant to enable members of the crew that may have been shot out of the back of the harasser to respawn. hell, we used to tend to have at least 2 of them in the little pack we had. issue is lately I have found that it seems they treated the implant the same way as they did the valks in that you can no longer respawn behind enemy lines with them. if you aren't in a friendly hex it seems to not work and tbh, if you are in a friendly hex, just stopping and dropping a spawn beacon or swinging by a nearby spawn tube would not take that much time. so back to sweeper hud and ammo printer. but the question I have is, how often does sweeper hud not pick up the mines for you? I get it quite often where I am moving along at a steady clip and the mines just don't render until you are already on top of them (with max hud). is it possible that max speed of a harasser might be impairing the ability to avoid them? anyways, great vid.
You can use jockey instead on your engineer to get extra shield while repairing your harasser it will allow to survive most of the one hit kill weapons
you missed the best part of having a TR harrasser with a mini, in third person the gun is auto stabilized. using that trick also gives you amazing situational awareness
@@warpigsareus oh i see, kinda obvious tho, should've realized it myself xP realistically speaking tho, im unsure if the vulcan is a minigun. The A10 Warthog with its classic BRRRT rotary barrel nose cannon, that is not a minigun, as miniguns are, well, smaller variants of rotary barrel guns, they fire smaller caliber, are usually turreted or, but pretty much movies only carried by a soldier and meant more against infantry targets as their small caliber isn't gonna do much to heavy armor. The MCG Heavy Weapon of the TR is a minigun, the TR MAX guns are also miniguns. I am unsure about the actual size of the Vulcans calibre but considering it is AV it wouldn't be a Minigun, "just" a Gatling Gun. This is similar to how LMGs are LightMachineGuns, which seems odd as they are usually the biggest infantry carried guns and also the heavist. But they are called LMGs as they originate from bigger calibre machine guns used on aircrafts, helicopters or heavier turrets on ground vehicles. Taking these directly to infantry isn't working as these big boys would be way to heavy to carry or even wield by foot, thus they have converted the system into a smaller calibre platform to make them lighter and usuable for infantry :D
@@gamerkeks7997 The original IRL Vulcan is called a minigun personally I just call it a minigun cuz it is easy to remember and kinda Iconic not looking to be accurate. also no rotary barrel gun is "usable" by infantry unless it is mounted to a fixed position as the recoil of it is truly insane
Here I'll make it easy for you; Don't stop moving, stop moving to shoot (prowler in a nutshell), don't brawl with vanguards, stick to long range. Brawl with magriders, otherwise engage only at extreme range as a good maggie will dodge everything at mid range. Flank, but not solo. You are best AA in game. AP turret only, Ranger for solo, halberd for most other load-outs. If you're close enough to use vulcan, you won't live long in larger fights. Almost always Racer chassis (don't let the fastest tank in the game nonsense fool you though, any good opponent won't care about a couple more km/hr) Stealth + fire suppression for solo/flanking, prowler does best with stealth. Also, stealth is useless after exposing yourself. Anyone with ears/eyes can hear your gun/engine or see your rounds. Always ammo printer, and a choice between Sweeper/Counter intel. Stay mobile, peak everything, use third person camera as much as possible for awareness, rock-a-bye baby, watch the tree tops etc etc. Some more nuances to consider; Don't worry about the gun needing to reload multiple times, that normal. The recoil from the first shot will make your ttk slower than on paper (again) as you must usually adjust aim even a bit. Sometimes, you will reload, need to fire the 2 phantom rounds, reload again to be able to do any further damage. For a large box, you roll very well. Your bottom is literally xbox heug, don't let people touch it too much if possible. If you cannot resist the bad habit of stopping and deploying/camping for too long, don't forget your spitfire. 3 or more full prowlers that are communicating and have good team synergy will need a zerg or a bastion to stop. And now, the worst but most fun way to play prowler, Ignore all that, Run HEAT, Vulcan, Racer, barrage, "stealth", bright red camo and lumbifier engaged. Yolo into nearest opponent at point blank range and hope for the best. Needs a buddy that also wants to fight like a real TR. Added effect by placing as many pizza boxes as possible in glove compartment, not recommended for longevity? Sweeper hud a must. Ammo printer probably not. Look at me. I am the DPS now.
I miss the pre-CAI Harasser. It was just so glorious soloing. Yes with a gunner and or pack it was OP, but it was still high risk - high skill - high reward. Post-CAI CQC soloing is not fun anymore, and Helberd is managable, but not as fun. And I am so happy I did auraxium before 300 nanites. Now I like to roam, but it's not the proper excitment. Having proper positioning and picking straglers in solo mode, or melting vehicles left and right with a pack... Oh I miss it
Air have the same advantages as harassers and then some..... a lot of some. Twice the speed and maneuverability, far more firepower. I mean, try killing an mbt faster than a tank buster/dalton combo, even vulcan point blank range can't kill that fast. Then to top it off, a spot 10 meters above any ground vehicle where the ground vehicle can't shoot, unless AA (with a few other exceptions), which are more deterrent than an actual weapon. Honestly, I think the reason harassers seem op, is simply there aren't as many people who main the other ground vehicles, because air can take them out rather easily. So everyone tends to use and master the harasser, because they have the highest chance of surviving air attacks. In other words, higher chance to get taken out by harassers than other ground vehicles. Possibly also we tend to stay in packs to take down bigger targets, so they seem op, when its simply numbers overwhelming you.
Harassers having good survivability against air? Not so much in my experience. The best chances I have to survive an ESF is to run for cover or towards friendly forces while desperatelly trying to keep the attacking ESF spotted for them to notice im in troubles. If my Harasser has a Kobalt, Basilisk or Walker, then it is possible to hold our ground against them, but its quite challenging. Liberators destroy harassers quite efficiently too, Valkyries are a slightly lesser threat due to softer firepower, but can be still VERY annoying due to contant chip damage. Of course peopple may attribute the high maneuvreability as an edge against air, but a competent pilot usually always comes out on top.
@@Komyets .... So.... You're saying an mbt has a better chance of surviving a lib than a harasser? If that's the case, you don't know how to use the harasser to its full potential. As I said, the harasser has the best odds of surviving air than other ground vehicles, does it mean the harasser will survive? Of course not, but the odds are far better for a harasser than any other vehicle caught out in the open. There's a reason harassers can actually get behind enemy lines and survive. I mean, have you tried shooting a dalton at a moving harasser? Not easy, much less if the harasser is timing your shots, and moving at the last second (while compensating for latency) to dodge them. I'd even say the ranger harasser is the best aa that ground can pull if they know how to use it. There are many instances where I'm getting attacked by multiple libs and esfs in my ranger harasser because my gunner took them or their buddies out.
@@SticksInStilts No, I just think that the difference in their chance of survival are minimal, MBT's can wichstand a little bit more punishment, Harasser can evade but will be taken out fairly easily due to lower hitpoints and especially if the harasser is taken by surprise where the aircraft scores the first shot. All im saying is I disagree with you saying harassers have **significantly** better chances to survive against air. Either that, or every valk and lib I have encoutered is extremely experienced. There isnt a gunship encounter where I havent struggled against, almost all encouters have ended up in me losing my vehicle, at least while alone
No love for the Walker? It's very good against infantry and it can snipe vehicles and aircraft. The harasser becomes a really good support vehicle in a zerg of vehicles who forgot to get proper AA or AI, while being capable of spotting and softening vehicles - even sundies around a colossus. (it's my most used weapon on harasser and even a lib cannot deal with a walk harasser unless it comes right in your face)
Btw, H vs H - the passenger can drop mines while retreating, so the opposite vehicle runs into them. CQC AV H squads may use smoke screen to keep vehicle columns in smoke (I haven't seen it used yet - rear engi with underbarrel smoke can help). Also, H's weight is low, even a Valk can do ramming damage to it.
I like to up my dpi one level when I gun sometimes. Using a Logitech g600 too and that third shift button, it's another toggle for really low dpi if I need a little more accuracy
gotta disagree with the "gunner always get in first to be more efficient", my point: the harasser needs the time to accelerate, even with boosting it takes a little bit of time from outside repairing to running, so, when its almost full hp, the driver gets in and start accelerating, the gunner finishes it off and get in as the harasser is starting to move, ofc there's the thing with the gunner staying outside, but that wont happen if you have good sinergy with your gunner and you both know your playstyle and how to react to certain situations, so, problem solved...
call me what you will ,but Harassers are OP , vastly superior to MBTs or Lightnings . they can actually take more damage than a buggy with bodywork ever should, not to mention gunner can switch to seat 3 and repair plus use rep nade , and as shown here, weapons can deal with anything . it absolutely needs to get NERF of hitpoints. any time i pull this with my friend who plays very infrequently, we rack up stupid amount of kills and live lot longer than any MBT or Lightning AND Liberators and ESFs have hard time tracking us to shoot us.
> we rack up stupid amount of kills and live lot longer than any MBT or Lightning AND Liberators and ESFs have hard time tracking us to shoot us. Those Libs and ESF's are terrible if they can't track a relatively slow target. Try doing that against good players and see how little it helps.
@@GroundTrooper slow? pretty sure Harassers are only slower over Javelin on ground and lot more maneuverable . by the time they could do some dmg you should be able to find cover or building or lead ,lets say ESF , to your allies forcing it to break chase . zig-zagging usually throws off aim enough for ESFs to do before-mentioned and Lib doesn't turn fast enough . maybe a good Shredder gunner can kill Harasser ,but usually i see pilots just ignoring most Harassers . think of this as your everyday regular battles,not as 1vs 1 . these vehicles are too good . i am not good player ,and my friend neither. yet we do good ,often great in this thing.
@@GroundTrooper Harasser is NOT a "slow" target, especially you're also having to dodge flak because at least one of them in their Circlejerk Squad is running a Ranger. STOP BEING BIASED. We know it's your main battle tank, but take a second and go try fighting these things as a Hornet ESF or a Dalton gunner for a little while and learn a thing or two
@@iller3 Considering I've played with and around BLNG for the entirety of their existence I think I'm pretty safe in my knowledge of what is possible...
@@GroundTrooper Even if you were correct that the majority of players could reliably hit a Harasser with ESF/Liberators it doesnt change the fact that Harassers are still OP and needs a hp nerf just as Vimorain said(resist nerf would also work) because since you are such a experienced player with a bunch of knowledge you obviously already know that when compared with tank main turrets, Harassers are tankier than Lightnings and on par or better than Magriders/Prowlers in terms of how many shots it takes to kill them when using a tank, right? So.. what is there to argue about? Harassers obviously need a nerf when they are too resilient against the majority of other vehicles that will face it in combat while at the same time being the obvious choice of what to use when you want to hunt it, its either air if you are confident enough or you use a Harasser so you can keep up with them and hunt them down.
You're at a huge Awareness disadvantage still because you don't have 2 sets of eyes or you're having to look between a 3rd person view and a 1st person view constantly
First things first. There's some good stuff in this video, and it's certainly a better starter guide than nothing, but there's also a whole lot of trash that demonstrates how you don't actually know this subject particularly well, so I'm gonna correct all that as best I can below. 3:50 "When you see Scrapper, think traction" This is wrong as Scrapper has the same traction as the base Harasser, it just has a tighter turning circle and Racer reduces traction. "When you see Surger, think hill climbing" It has been repeatedly demonstrated over the years that Surger provides no benefits in this area, and if one intends to climb hills it's better to stick with Racer. "When you think Racer, think fast" While true on the surface it isn't all that much faster due to turbo having the same top speed with any chassis, which instead makes the real benefit of Racer the reduced traction that allows more advanced manuevers with sufficient practice. 5:00 "You're gonna be up close and personal with Heavy Assaults rockets, Stealth isn't gonna save you here" This is objectively wrong, as not only does Composite barely make a difference in the STK for a lot of things, it also guarantees that anyone paying attention to their map will see you coming, which Stealth entirely negates, and not being seen is the best way to avoid damage. 5:24 "This thing shreds vehicles up close" Up close being a car distance away, and anywhere beyond that it's literally impossible to one-clip an MBT, thus making it pretty much useless against tanks. 5:33 "It does well against Liberators, but not very good against ESF's" No, this is objectively wrong if one actually has any understanding of damage types, because if one did they'd know that Gatling Guns does twice as much damage per hit to an ESF as they do to a Liberator... Mind you this doesn't make it practical to use against either, but the statement demonstrates a huge lack of knowledge on the subject. 5:39 "But sometimes you just need 10 extra bullets in the magazine" It's only 8, and those 8 barely make a difference for what you can functionally one-clip. 8:34 "Next I have the Gatekeeper. It's a nice long range weapon, but it did get nerfed and I prefer the alpha damage of the Halberd now" It hasn't been nerfed after CAI hit, and the GK has higher alpha damage than the Halberd................ 11:19 "Here we found this Lightning loose from the pack, and I already figured out that his sensitivity is a little to low" This is a bullshit post-hoc realization and you aren't remotely seasoned enough with the car to make such a judgement in the moment, instead relying on the tried and true circling that has been a Vulcan staple since the Harasser was added. 14:27 "A couple of Decimators and you're a goner, especially if they get your backside" The Harasser takes exactly the same damage from every direction......................... --- There's other stuff I find objectionable too, but nothing specific enough for me to delve into. A huge oversight as well is not mentioning the Fury as it is currently far superior to the Vulcan for anti-tank duties if your gunner has any semblance of aim. TTK demonstration here th-cam.com/video/5HIDYM6nbRc/w-d-xo.html --- TLDR: A somewhat useful video for absolute newbs, but also a load of bad info that shouldn't ever have been uttered.
I didn't know the way it was achieved was that Racer had a traction reduction, but I think the point still gets across calling Scrapper the option if you want better traction. While the squirrely-ness of racer can absolutely be managed, it still has less traction then scrapper. I agree, stealth is definitely the best option in most situations, but when you are cruising around an amp station or watersons, or whatever infantry tend to get you spotted pretty fast anyways, plus you are dealing with lots of small arms fire, the little extra durability helps, even though its not much. I have been in the red many times in a base, where I would be dead with stealth. The vulcan certainly didn't get all its guts back after tweaks during CAI but it is still a good weapon. I understand the Fury does have a better TTK, but the punishment for missing one round is much higher on the fury. And while the vulcan excels very close up, it can reach out farther than the fury more reliably. You're not taking into account projectile velocity and what your target is. Libs are larger and slower moving. ESFs are small and agile. Trying to land shots on an ESF with any reliability is much more difficult then on a lib. I find maxing magazine size is more useful in more situations then reload speed, that shorter reload speed doesn't net me a finishing blow as often as a couple more rounds do. Which do you prefer? Alpha damage is damage per shell... Yes the Halberd has far more alpha damage. The GK has higher damage per magazine. Not at a slow loping speed... If I thought the guy could be putting shots on me, I wouldn't be lingering around slowly. Yes, I was incorrect, harasser has no directional resistances.
@@CMDRCyrious Hey so since we're engaging let me apologize for the slightly harsh breakdown, but I've been dealing with reddit people for years so I'm sure you can understand where it's coming from. So it used to be that the Harasser was slippery with every chassis, but it had its handling severely changed because they reused and revamped that particular bit of code for the cars of H1Z1 which left it very sticky for every option, so Racer was retuned to try and mimic the old handling with some success, though it still doesn't approach what the old handling could do. As for Vulcan, while it may seem to have more range to a lesser skilled gunner, in practice the damage drop-off neuters the damage potential at range severly. Now I admit that I'm in the fortunate situation that I have a highly skilled gunner, and it is with that knowledge in hand that I can confidently say that the Fury has more effective range than the Vulcan ever will, while also having the ability to play nicely around terrain because of the arcing trajectory. As for Libs, I take everything into account. I've been doing Harassers since they got released and have more hours in them than most people have in the game (not that time is an indicator of skill). The actual issue is that practically speaking it doesn't matter against either aircraft as their combination of damage resistance, mobility, and the drop-off of the Vulcan makes any damage done anemic to the point of irrelevance. The consensus among the Harasser people on the PS2 discord is that Reload Speed on the Vulcan is best as we expect not to one-clip stuff with the Vulcan in the first place due to how CAI neutered it, but it's also recognized that in practice it doesn't make a huge difference either way. Alpha damage has a few definitions. It's generally meant to indicate the first hit, and while the GK spreads that over 8 separate impacts they arrive as one unified attack, which is why I prefer it as a measure of "damage per reload cycle" instead of "damage per round". In my experience it doesn't matter how fast you move against a target, a good tanker won't have any trouble hitting you at close range unless you find a way to obscure your hitbox with terrain. Granted not every tanker is good, but it's good practice to assume everyone is a threat. --- Again I'm sorry for the slightly harsher than required teardown. Wrote the initial comment while engaged in a somewhat heated debate on the PS2 discord :)
All I've done is play harraser since I started planetside 2, I've got hundreds of hours in the vehicle and I have to say that I disagree with your composite vs stealth in CQB anti infiantry fights or any fight for that matter. 70% of the time im escaping with my harrasser with 100-150 hp (I can hear your argument already, no I don't die often and actually live for a very long time most of the time) it let's you take an extra tank/rocket and still get shot at by infiantry while living to fight another day. As long as you use terrain to your advantage you should be fine, its much harder to escape bit easier to survive. And the extra time in combat can really let you fight an mbt 1v1(2). The trick I've learned is if a tank misses twice the harraser wins, without composite they have to miss 3 times.
@@GroundTrooper No its no problem it was a good breakdown. And when the guide says advanced, you expect to be more geared towards the upper echelon, so its understandable to get more into the nitty gritty. Do understand though, it is still geared more towards the mid 60% I would say. (Which you still said it was a good starter guide) So above the complete noobs, but not all the way up to the top 5% you know. The AA damage of the vulcan is straight up disappointing. I agree its probably not even worth mentioning its capabilities against the air. I assume someone has done the math. In just RAW damage output, ignoring whether you could one clip or two clip something. Which has the higher damage output. I guess after a reload or two, reduced reload speed would start to have a higher damage output pretty quickly? Understood on Alpha. Part of my love for the Halberd is its OHK on many different infantry types of targets. The GKs disappointing AI capabilities makes it more situational then I would like. I also find that with the Halberd you can time it on rough terrain better, whereas to get the maximum effectiveness of the GK, you basically just have to stay exposed and keep firing, even if half the shots are going to be lost to terrain. And then again part of it is just having spent time using it when it was OP, even if its still fine, it feels worse then it used too, so you tend to just set it aside, but that is not a very objective decision. I did see your research that the Fury is the superior AV weaponry, good video by the way. It feels like you need a really top notch gunner to take advantage of it though, whereas the vulcan's forgiveness can give it an edge. But I see your point again, when it says Advanced, hopefully you are beyond a gunner that is missing shots. Anyways, thanks for your expertise, hope everything takes a look at it and clicks through to your channel, your user icon should push that. :)
I hate they nerfed having someone in the back constantly repairing on the go. Can a Max still sit back there? Haven't tried that one yet. Harasser driving is fun. I spend all my certs on my Prowler.
I have a questions. You have bullets on low resolution and everything else in moderate. Why did you set to low to keep the bullets and rockets on low? Thanks.
AFAIK, people boot the game up with low particles, but then in-game they put it up to ultra. This makes the tracers look like this without the FPS detriment of ultra particles. You can also see tracers for a longer distance this way. You can also put your .ini to read only so you don't have to put the particles on low again before closing the game, but you do have to put the particles on ultra every time you boot the game back up.
Missions (Bounty Hunter or NSX Weapon Review tend to have this in their pool) or look for glowing blue dots on consoles in bases. You'll be given a use prompt to download and it gives you A7.
@@BlackSunCompany those consoles i saw few times,give about 50ish,but no missions i have seen for month if not longer had any A7 and i check regularly . getting desperate
@@devilsmessanger I'm playing with 3 chars and I see A7 in green missions almost daily for one of them (so 1 in 3). Try to do the missions which drop weapons first, so they won't appear anymore. Otherwise I have no idea.
Put an AV MAX to the back, a Medic gunner whit maxed out Triage (this will repair/heal the MAX), and an Engi driver. Go revers, repair only the harasser and use ammo to MAX. In a squad at Hossin its fun!
I think a LOT MORE people would be interested in just the section (or immediate timestamp to the section) that hints at Harasser WEAKNESSES more than they would a full 20 minutes of what all their strengths are. I think most people are already well aware of their overwhelming strengths in a coordinated Scenario. And the community in general should also be petitioning the Devs to add more selective weaknesses as well (as opposed to just straight up hamfisted nerfs like the Prowler kept getting)
Weakneses are really mostly dependent on the person driving. Common all across every vehicle such as mistakes done traversing complicated terrain or accidentally drifting into a spin that lets you vulnerable. Unless... of course... you're talking about weakeneses that are always present regardless of player skill? Hard to tell with the harasser, the low HP they have can be a good point. I suppose its like an ESF but on the ground, if you hunt it down with enough determination, you can destroy it instead of merely scaring it away for it to return later.
@@Komyets They don't have "Low Hitpoints", they have High hitpoints for a "light" vehicle infact.... DID YOU MEAN LOW ARMOR RATING? ... Armor rating is what decides if a small arms projectile deals damage or not.
so i just begin to watch the video to understand this vehicle, but to be honest, i'm not really a big fan of this vehicle cuz i think that having MBT turret on it feel like u put a tank canon on a toyota, and i feel its unrealistic and not really making sense. i would rather having those kind of turret on the sundy, and having harraser having his own empire turret like the flash does. but i'll watch the video now and see if it change my mind ^^'
Daily reminder that the Vulcan is not OP, and that the Fury and Gatekeeper are better in terms of TTK (and with them, you don't have to be within kissing distance of your opponent) th-cam.com/video/5HIDYM6nbRc/w-d-xo.html
I hate the harasser so much. I wish it was removed from the game. This 'light' vehicle can beat a lightning and usualy even a heavy tank 99% of the time, it's bullshit and a terrible addition to the game.
Harraser can win a MBT in a 1v1 only if the driver is very bad. Same with the lighting - you have all the chances to out-dps a harraser (and you will, if it is a vulcan one)
@@tka4nik And it has to be noted that the Harasser crews who actually do this often have thousands of hours doing exactly that, while the tanker complaining have a fraction of that, thus creating a huge mismatch in skill.
@@tka4nik Well no that's wrong. Infact the MBT driver and their Gunner has to be the higher skilled pairing to statistically win most of those fights; or they have to dictate the engagement which is nearly impossible because the entire POINT of the Harasser is to allow the Harasser driver to dictate most of the terms of every engagement. The OP exaggerated things a bit here, but at the end of the day Harassers still need some kind of real Soft-Counter... either from the Air, or from a new Flash/ANT weapon
@@GroundTrooper yet, that is something you cannot take into consideration,ironically , because that is Planetside 2 in nutshell . .all vs all,no matchmaking . but put equally good 2 pairs of players into these and harasser should win most of time .
How to win with a harraser
Step 1: be tr
Step 2: get The Vulcan
Step 3: brrrrrrt and win
gives me conniptions.
Extra ammo or reload speed?
@@PurpleOkayTurtle ammo for me
Step hold up: Just pull a AP lighting and press Left click after each reload. You will win.
@@tka4nik Sure just as simple as always having 100% accuracy.
Considering the 'common sense' in PS2 is that Magriders are hard to hit, demanding people to hit 100% of the shots against Harassers that are harder to hit is just a bit funny to me.
Harassers in general needs a decently sized nerf, right now they are basically as tanky or better than MBTs(Prowler/Magrider) and just straight up tankier than Lightnings. I wont bother spamming the math behind it but if you dont believe me just look up the damages and damage resists... but yeah its basically tanks take +50% damage from tank shells while Harassers only take +20% damage from tank shells = Lightning AP needs 5 hits to kill a Comp armor + Fire suppression Harasser and it takes 5 hits to kill a Prowler/Magrider on the front/side armor or 4 rear hits = its faster to kill a MBT from behind than killing a Harasser.
Also if anyone wants to know how to kill Vulcan Harassers with a Lightning, use the Viper turret instead since you can kill Harassers with just a single reload if most of the first 6 shots hits and Vulcans likes to get close which gives you a decent go of just full auto dumping the shots into them, either they run or you kill them ~4 seconds later.
One point id like to make, is as a gunner, especially when vehicle hunting: dont fire at everything that moves just because you can. You will often give yourself away, and ruin any flanking opportunity. Only fire when you know you can land your shots, or when the enemy already knows you are there.
I have to remind my gunners of this so often. That and "Gun forward!". Stop looking at that random ESF flying behind us and shoot the tank in front of us.
"I want turbo on my lightning and MBT." (TR guy)
Getting into a random player's gunner seat and going on a huge rampage together is some of the best memories you can make in PS2. I wish more people left their vehicles unlocked when they have open slots
I like to sit in the back of the harrasser as a heavy with a launcher, so much fun
"some long range harrasser footage"
*expects Halberd*
*gets Vulcan slapped in the face*
Gate shield diffuser has helped me so much more that fire suppression.
Let’s me chase hurt vehicles behind gate shields or bio labs when they think they are safe.
I can counter turbo ANTs, GSD means I take no ram damage but they still do
It’s easier to win harasser 1v1’s if I can ram into them
If I flip upside down, GSD prevents the harasser from taking damage for 15 seconds, giving me enough time to unflip it
And most importantly is after activating GSD, I can wedge the harasser right under a magrider and absolutely bully them because they cant hit me while my gunner destroys them
I've been a bit hesitant to use the harasser or mbt's because i usually play solo and can't gun and drive at the same time. But i'm always up for gunning on the other hand. Excellent point about picking up random gunners, i'm gonna try that and start certing out some 2 man vehicles now that i have my classes pretty well equipped anyway. Thanks!
If you're on Emerald NC I'll run with you.
People really get in the harasser. Use the horn and you'll see.
If I'm playing solo I use the walker gun - the harasser becomes a mobile AA platform. Sometimes I survive 15 minutes in it and "clear the skies".
That, and if you're careful, solo harassing is pretty viable. Ya just need to be quick on the F1/F2 seat swap, or rebind those keys if ya have spare mouse buttons. A solo kobalt or halberd harasser is great for locking down choke points.
@@themanwithnoname3989 I always find the best farm comes from solo run dual person vehicles.
The lightning will outgun both solo harassers and solo MBTs. The only thing easier to farm than the two of them are saunders.
You'll also find that the sky guard makes a far better mobile AA gun then the harasser.
An experienced harasser driver is a beautiful thing
And so rare...
Cars don't take more damage from the back, Cyrious
You're right harassers, take the same amount of damage all the way around.
correct... all support vehicles are in this "armor" category
@@iller3 There isn't any set category, and it is a value they can change by simply editing a few numbers. The relevant info can be found here. planetside.fandom.com/wiki/Vehicle_armor_and_damage_resistance
@@CMDRCyrious To my knowledge, the only vehicles that take directional damage are tanks (MBTs and Lightnings; Sunderers had that aspect removed a while ago), and thanks to a quirk in the game engine, it's where you're located in relation to the vehicle when firing that determines the locational damage, not where your shots actually hit.
@@TheRogueWolf It's where you are when the shot hits, not when its fired.
The first vehicular experience i had in planetside was in a harasser as a gunner for someone who just rolled up like you yourself do. It was a blast, I missed almost every shot but it was great, harassers are my favorite vehicle now
Love the shout out to let the rando low level run gun around with you. I still remember well the first time a veteran driver pulled up and I got in. Boomboxing around Indar. Good times
My anti harasser tactic as a Heavy is to use AV grenades. Throw your grenade before shooting your launcher (decimator).
Since grenades take a few seconds before exploding, the harasser driver wont react until it gets damaged and this will give you time to hit with your launcher almost at the same time as your grenade explodes. This combo deals about 68% harasser damage and 1 extra shot from an ally or yourself will end it.
There is one very important thing to know in the Scrapper vs Racer discussion.
Racer is only 6 km/h faster than Scrapper. It is almost non-existent. Try it out, race 2 Harassers one with Racer one with Scrapper. The advantage Racer is supposed to give you is irellevant compared to Scrapper.
Some tips from me as well to any other Harasser Driver/Gunner.
The Halbred might be more suited for AV but with an accurate gunner it will 1 shot infantry at any time be it body or head shot... Not sure for MAXes though, need to check that.
Gunners and Drivers, know when to press F3 to take out your repair tool to fix your car. This usually applies to when you're running away like over hills and such. Generally it's the gunners job to help here since running away means unstable shooting though drivers can also do this if they know they've got an experienced gunner since they're usually more accurate. One such example was the last clip Cyrious showed, you can see the someone shifting to the open seat for repairs when in a safer area.
Drivers always go in third person, better situational awareness and seeing any oncoming bumps, hills, trees and etc. Gunners can go third person to help scope out where the targets are if you've got none but switch back to first when shooting, better shots usually.
I like to have my repair tool out before jumping on the gun so it's ready when I hit the back seat and I don't lose any time switching. When I drive I usually keep my side arm out, but it depends on what's up top and who's gunning. Will I need to jump out and engage a driver that bailed? The Archer isn't so good in those situations and I don't want to try and repair them to death... again. Oops. That guy is probably still laughing about that.
One thing I can recommend for general harraser driving:
For the love of god, vanu, spaghetti monster, whatever your believe is. DO NOT use the harraser as a tank, don't try taking MBTs head to head, try to flank them, take out vehicles that are smoking.
And this is more for NC's case, but still for everyone, if you are driving, please try to drive in flat ground so the gunner can aim better.
Also, please dbg, give Enforcer back it's original reload mechanic, now it just a worse Halberd, and Canister is just another boring shotgun
The Enforcer is dumb strong right now with it having just about 50% more DPS than the Halberd.
That was really helpful, thank you! Harasser is my favourite kind of fun these days. It doesn't matter much which seat, even 3. The problem is that I play solo 90% of the time so I don't really know what the expectations of other drivers / gunners might be. When to jump out and repair and when to get back in was excellent advice. I've often struggled picking the priority target from either seat. The debate around when to reload VS when to empty the mag VS when to repair I will likely always struggle with because "target focused" is a real thing. Your advice to keep shooting was great. That tip about pulling a flash right after was GOLD!
Newbie tip: A bad gunner is still more fun than no gunner at all, so "Get in and man the gun!"
We have some fun with a 3 player flak buggy. The NG (usually me) sits in seat 3 and reps (I'm the only one with Jockey). The driver and gunner both play heavy with lock on launchers. When they jump out to fire at the Mosquito, I jump on the gun. "Take that, blood sucker". Good times.
Literally when there’s a huge skirmish going on there is always two of these that just go for roadkills and they do so well it annoys me so much.
I don't have the most experience on the Harasser but I'll try to give my VS Specific thoughts.
Aphelion VEX-4: The closest thing VS has to a Vulcan, so I'll try to compare and Contrast.
CONS: Half the fire rate and Magazine size. It also blooms harder, so getting hits is far more important.
PROS: Higher damage per shot, Overall tighter firing cone (I think) Every six shots you can release the trigger to send out an Arc 800 damage shot which sounds better then it is.
Overall the Aphelion is a harder to use and pull off Vulcan. You want to get in close and hammer something hard and Skedaddle before his mates notice. The Charged arc shot is only really useful and Mid-Range, if you're in close combat just hold it down till it runs dry.
A short-Range Anti-Vehicle weapon that does okay against other targets and at Mid-range
Proton II PPA: Anti-Infantry Very Eh, We don't pull it terribly much. It takes 4 shots to kill a target, but at anything other than close range the bloom will kick and throw your shots wide well before that fourth shot. It can be useful for suppressing an area/Door/Lane. Much like it's Handheld cousin (the Lasher) But honestly just pull the Kobalt or Basilisk, You'll get far more consistent results at different ranges and the basilisk is far more versatile
Saron HRB: Mid-Long range Anti-Vehicle weapon.
Really solid, I quite like it. The first shot is pinpoint accurate but subsequent shots can get very inaccurate. Unlike the PPA however, you're supposed to be shooting at Vehicle sized targets so it's less of an issue. If you maintain a steady fire rate the bloom isn't an issue and this can be a really powerful long range AV weapon it's actually not terrible against infantry/MAXs if you can hit targets too.
Just stay in control of the bloom and you'll be fine. This is a must for a dedicated AV Magrider as well.
As a harraser driver/gunner who primarily uses the aphelion you can kill a sunderer in one magazine without magazine increase with the burst.
You also don't need to wait to start firing, just treat it like burst firing let go then immediately start shooting again. Your bloom resets immediately, meaning you can use it at longer ranges than the vulcan and mojlnir.
God I remember when the PPA had 50 rounds and was just an infantry melting machine. Now it feels like it's tickles them.
I hate the harasser so much my blood boils the very moment I see one
Things the TR do better than anyone: MAX suits, Harassers, and air superiority (they can actually pick and choose their fights).
Things they do badly: Tanks, CAS (the Reaver is just better for air-to-ground and the VS have the PPA and the highest DPS rocket pods), and Infantry (the NC has guns that easily compete with TR guns at every range, even CQC).
I have a motto as a pretty much a harasser main driver; "Flank and Gank."
I am and have been primarily a harasser gunner for a good while now. It’s my preferred gameplay for sure. While I agree you can pick up a rando or jump in a random harasser and have a lot of fun, but there is nothing like having a full time driver that you have good coms with. After a while you just become ‘one’ with each other. My driver is very aggressive and likes to get in the middle of things, submits to his bloodlust for road kills which just aren’t what they once were, they really need to fix that... Most tanks can’t turn fast enough to counter us in CQC situations. They are most deadly at range and it is almost always running away in a straight line that will get you dead when fighting tanks. I pretty much use the halberd 100%. Sniping infantry with just feels so dang good. I have killed a lot of everything with it. So many ESF’s fall prey and will get inside my elevation angle, and boom... They don’t realize how deadly a halberd harasser is to them until it is too late. I won’t knock anyone else’s play style, but to me, the Vulcan just feels too easy and isn’t as satisfying and all the other guns just don’t cut it for me. A bulldog on a battle bus is pretty fun though.
That weapon your gunner's using, that's why you play infantry only and mine around.
Ah yes...the Vulcan TR Harasser...or as I call them...
Speedy Dead Men.
AP Lightning - My Anti-Harasser loadout.
*advanced harassing* just shows clips of vulcan the most smoothbrain gun in the game
great vid, I definitely suffer from the "gotta go fast" instinct I picked up from playing lights in mwo, so I've instinctively known I need to slow my roll to allow my gunner to get more hits, but your vid expressed it so overtly that I feel I must actually make an effort moving forward. I ran a late night harasser squad for a while last spring and it occurred to me that you may benefit from a medic driver as the gunner or rumble seat repairman could take damage back there and triage might be benefiicial. I have never squeezed the trigger on that idea because I rarely have the 3rd seat occupied so i prefered the ability to hop out and repair. but I always assumed that the driver being able to keep people repaired or even hop out and rez a downed engi might be beneficial. dunno, 3rd seat happens so rarely that I never really go past the concept phase. similarly I like the idea of at least one harasser pilot having the logistics expert implant to enable members of the crew that may have been shot out of the back of the harasser to respawn. hell, we used to tend to have at least 2 of them in the little pack we had. issue is lately I have found that it seems they treated the implant the same way as they did the valks in that you can no longer respawn behind enemy lines with them. if you aren't in a friendly hex it seems to not work and tbh, if you are in a friendly hex, just stopping and dropping a spawn beacon or swinging by a nearby spawn tube would not take that much time. so back to sweeper hud and ammo printer. but the question I have is, how often does sweeper hud not pick up the mines for you? I get it quite often where I am moving along at a steady clip and the mines just don't render until you are already on top of them (with max hud). is it possible that max speed of a harasser might be impairing the ability to avoid them? anyways, great vid.
You can use jockey instead on your engineer to get extra shield while repairing your harasser it will allow to survive most of the one hit kill weapons
you missed the best part of having a TR harrasser with a mini, in third person the gun is auto stabilized. using that trick also gives you amazing situational awareness
mini?
@@gamerkeks7997 minigun, another name for a Vulcan
@@warpigsareus oh i see, kinda obvious tho, should've realized it myself xP
realistically speaking tho, im unsure if the vulcan is a minigun.
The A10 Warthog with its classic BRRRT rotary barrel nose cannon, that is not a minigun, as miniguns are, well, smaller variants of rotary barrel guns,
they fire smaller caliber, are usually turreted or, but pretty much movies only carried by a soldier and meant more against infantry targets as their small caliber isn't gonna do much to heavy armor.
The MCG Heavy Weapon of the TR is a minigun, the TR MAX guns are also miniguns.
I am unsure about the actual size of the Vulcans calibre but considering it is AV it wouldn't be a Minigun, "just" a Gatling Gun.
This is similar to how LMGs are LightMachineGuns, which seems odd as they are usually the biggest infantry carried guns and also the heavist. But they are called LMGs as they originate from bigger calibre machine guns used on aircrafts, helicopters or heavier turrets on ground vehicles. Taking these directly to infantry isn't working as these big boys would be way to heavy to carry or even wield by foot, thus they have converted the system into a smaller calibre platform to make them lighter and usuable for infantry :D
self-correction:
The MCG TR Heavy Weapon would be more accurately described as a microgun, as it is even smaller then the classic minigun.
@@gamerkeks7997 The original IRL Vulcan is called a minigun personally I just call it a minigun cuz it is easy to remember and kinda Iconic not looking to be accurate. also no rotary barrel gun is "usable" by infantry unless it is mounted to a fixed position as the recoil of it is truly insane
"100 kill streaks in a harrasser"
---> Me unable to get past 20 at MOST per life with any class/vehicle :(((
Thats just him humblebraging
Prowler Guide! Prowler Guide! Prowler Guide!
Yes prowler guide we need it !!!!
Here I'll make it easy for you; Don't stop moving, stop moving to shoot (prowler in a nutshell), don't brawl with vanguards, stick to long range. Brawl with magriders, otherwise engage only at extreme range as a good maggie will dodge everything at mid range.
Flank, but not solo. You are best AA in game.
AP turret only, Ranger for solo, halberd for most other load-outs. If you're close enough to use vulcan, you won't live long in larger fights.
Almost always Racer chassis (don't let the fastest tank in the game nonsense fool you though, any good opponent won't care about a couple more km/hr) Stealth + fire suppression for solo/flanking, prowler does best with stealth. Also, stealth is useless after exposing yourself. Anyone with ears/eyes can hear your gun/engine or see your rounds.
Always ammo printer, and a choice between Sweeper/Counter intel.
Stay mobile, peak everything, use third person camera as much as possible for awareness, rock-a-bye baby, watch the tree tops etc etc.
Some more nuances to consider; Don't worry about the gun needing to reload multiple times, that normal. The recoil from the first shot will make your ttk slower than on paper (again) as you must usually adjust aim even a bit. Sometimes, you will reload, need to fire the 2 phantom rounds, reload again to be able to do any further damage. For a large box, you roll very well. Your bottom is literally xbox heug, don't let people touch it too much if possible. If you cannot resist the bad habit of stopping and deploying/camping for too long, don't forget your spitfire. 3 or more full prowlers that are communicating and have good team synergy will need a zerg or a bastion to stop.
And now, the worst but most fun way to play prowler,
Ignore all that, Run HEAT, Vulcan, Racer, barrage, "stealth", bright red camo and lumbifier engaged. Yolo into nearest opponent at point blank range and hope for the best. Needs a buddy that also wants to fight like a real TR. Added effect by placing as many pizza boxes as possible in glove compartment, not recommended for longevity? Sweeper hud a must. Ammo printer probably not.
Look at me. I am the DPS now.
wow another advanced guide! you're popping off!
The harasser is favorable to the hit and run style for me when I drive them over my lightning
I miss the pre-CAI Harasser. It was just so glorious soloing. Yes with a gunner and or pack it was OP, but it was still high risk - high skill - high reward. Post-CAI CQC soloing is not fun anymore, and Helberd is managable, but not as fun. And I am so happy I did auraxium before 300 nanites. Now I like to roam, but it's not the proper excitment. Having proper positioning and picking straglers in solo mode, or melting vehicles left and right with a pack... Oh I miss it
"Harasser utility slots: Turbo - it's great! GSD - good for ramming! Smoke screen - .................? OK moving on!" LOOOL XD
Harrasser is so OP that its almost broken
300 nanites worth of pure chaotic fun!
Air have the same advantages as harassers and then some..... a lot of some. Twice the speed and maneuverability, far more firepower. I mean, try killing an mbt faster than a tank buster/dalton combo, even vulcan point blank range can't kill that fast. Then to top it off, a spot 10 meters above any ground vehicle where the ground vehicle can't shoot, unless AA (with a few other exceptions), which are more deterrent than an actual weapon.
Honestly, I think the reason harassers seem op, is simply there aren't as many people who main the other ground vehicles, because air can take them out rather easily. So everyone tends to use and master the harasser, because they have the highest chance of surviving air attacks. In other words, higher chance to get taken out by harassers than other ground vehicles. Possibly also we tend to stay in packs to take down bigger targets, so they seem op, when its simply numbers overwhelming you.
Harassers having good survivability against air?
Not so much in my experience. The best chances I have to survive an ESF is to run for cover or towards friendly forces while desperatelly trying to keep the attacking ESF spotted for them to notice im in troubles. If my Harasser has a Kobalt, Basilisk or Walker, then it is possible to hold our ground against them, but its quite challenging.
Liberators destroy harassers quite efficiently too, Valkyries are a slightly lesser threat due to softer firepower, but can be still VERY annoying due to contant chip damage. Of course peopple may attribute the high maneuvreability as an edge against air, but a competent pilot usually always comes out on top.
@@Komyets .... So.... You're saying an mbt has a better chance of surviving a lib than a harasser? If that's the case, you don't know how to use the harasser to its full potential.
As I said, the harasser has the best odds of surviving air than other ground vehicles, does it mean the harasser will survive? Of course not, but the odds are far better for a harasser than any other vehicle caught out in the open. There's a reason harassers can actually get behind enemy lines and survive.
I mean, have you tried shooting a dalton at a moving harasser? Not easy, much less if the harasser is timing your shots, and moving at the last second (while compensating for latency) to dodge them. I'd even say the ranger harasser is the best aa that ground can pull if they know how to use it. There are many instances where I'm getting attacked by multiple libs and esfs in my ranger harasser because my gunner took them or their buddies out.
@@SticksInStilts No, I just think that the difference in their chance of survival are minimal, MBT's can wichstand a little bit more punishment, Harasser can evade but will be taken out fairly easily due to lower hitpoints and especially if the harasser is taken by surprise where the aircraft scores the first shot.
All im saying is I disagree with you saying harassers have **significantly** better chances to survive against air. Either that, or every valk and lib I have encoutered is extremely experienced. There isnt a gunship encounter where I havent struggled against, almost all encouters have ended up in me losing my vehicle, at least while alone
No love for the Walker?
It's very good against infantry and it can snipe vehicles and aircraft. The harasser becomes a really good support vehicle in a zerg of vehicles who forgot to get proper AA or AI, while being capable of spotting and softening vehicles - even sundies around a colossus.
(it's my most used weapon on harasser and even a lib cannot deal with a walk harasser unless it comes right in your face)
Btw, H vs H - the passenger can drop mines while retreating, so the opposite vehicle runs into them. CQC AV H squads may use smoke screen to keep vehicle columns in smoke (I haven't seen it used yet - rear engi with underbarrel smoke can help). Also, H's weight is low, even a Valk can do ramming damage to it.
As an NC harasser Driver with 500Hrs+ I can genuinely say you will probably lose a 1v1 using Mjolnir against a Vulcan LOL Vulcan is op lol.
as another NC Harasser main just the sound of a Vulcan gives me nightmares
@@sniggi1763 TR gun sounds are OP, chaingun is absolutely trash but just hearing it fire in my general direction gives me performance anxiety
RIP rumble seat repairs and trunk MAXs
ram is especially useful in vs with the mag
and is useful for harassing harassers
I like to up my dpi one level when I gun sometimes.
Using a Logitech g600 too and that third shift button, it's another toggle for really low dpi if I need a little more accuracy
gotta disagree with the "gunner always get in first to be more efficient", my point: the harasser needs the time to accelerate, even with boosting it takes a little bit of time from outside repairing to running, so, when its almost full hp, the driver gets in and start accelerating, the gunner finishes it off and get in as the harasser is starting to move, ofc there's the thing with the gunner staying outside, but that wont happen if you have good sinergy with your gunner and you both know your playstyle and how to react to certain situations, so, problem solved...
call me what you will ,but Harassers are OP , vastly superior to MBTs or Lightnings . they can actually take more damage than a buggy with bodywork ever should, not to mention gunner can switch to seat 3 and repair plus use rep nade , and as shown here, weapons can deal with anything . it absolutely needs to get NERF of hitpoints. any time i pull this with my friend who plays very infrequently, we rack up stupid amount of kills and live lot longer than any MBT or Lightning AND Liberators and ESFs have hard time tracking us to shoot us.
> we rack up stupid amount of kills and live lot longer than any MBT or Lightning AND Liberators and ESFs have hard time tracking us to shoot us.
Those Libs and ESF's are terrible if they can't track a relatively slow target. Try doing that against good players and see how little it helps.
@@GroundTrooper slow? pretty sure Harassers are only slower over Javelin on ground and lot more maneuverable . by the time they could do some dmg you should be able to find cover or building or lead ,lets say ESF , to your allies forcing it to break chase . zig-zagging usually throws off aim enough for ESFs to do before-mentioned and Lib doesn't turn fast enough . maybe a good Shredder gunner can kill Harasser ,but usually i see pilots just ignoring most Harassers . think of this as your everyday regular battles,not as 1vs 1 . these vehicles are too good . i am not good player ,and my friend neither. yet we do good ,often great in this thing.
@@GroundTrooper Harasser is NOT a "slow" target, especially you're also having to dodge flak because at least one of them in their Circlejerk Squad is running a Ranger. STOP BEING BIASED. We know it's your main battle tank, but take a second and go try fighting these things as a Hornet ESF or a Dalton gunner for a little while and learn a thing or two
@@iller3 Considering I've played with and around BLNG for the entirety of their existence I think I'm pretty safe in my knowledge of what is possible...
@@GroundTrooper Even if you were correct that the majority of players could reliably hit a Harasser with ESF/Liberators it doesnt change the fact that Harassers are still OP and needs a hp nerf just as Vimorain said(resist nerf would also work) because since you are such a experienced player with a bunch of knowledge you obviously already know that when compared with tank main turrets, Harassers are tankier than Lightnings and on par or better than Magriders/Prowlers in terms of how many shots it takes to kill them when using a tank, right?
So.. what is there to argue about? Harassers obviously need a nerf when they are too resilient against the majority of other vehicles that will face it in combat while at the same time being the obvious choice of what to use when you want to hunt it, its either air if you are confident enough or you use a Harasser so you can keep up with them and hunt them down.
I just get a second account on my second PC and use the driver on that and gun with my mouse
Once you get your muscle memory down it shouldn't be that difficult ya?
@@elitepete3667 yeah and its a lot more fun having complete control, dealing with the lag is the problem
Get friends...
You're at a huge Awareness disadvantage still because you don't have 2 sets of eyes or you're having to look between a 3rd person view and a 1st person view constantly
@@iller3 not perfect but it's fun
First things first.
There's some good stuff in this video, and it's certainly a better starter guide than nothing, but there's also a whole lot of trash that demonstrates how you don't actually know this subject particularly well, so I'm gonna correct all that as best I can below.
3:50 "When you see Scrapper, think traction" This is wrong as Scrapper has the same traction as the base Harasser, it just has a tighter turning circle and Racer reduces traction.
"When you see Surger, think hill climbing" It has been repeatedly demonstrated over the years that Surger provides no benefits in this area, and if one intends to climb hills it's better to stick with Racer.
"When you think Racer, think fast" While true on the surface it isn't all that much faster due to turbo having the same top speed with any chassis, which instead makes the real benefit of Racer the reduced traction that allows more advanced manuevers with sufficient practice.
5:00 "You're gonna be up close and personal with Heavy Assaults rockets, Stealth isn't gonna save you here" This is objectively wrong, as not only does Composite barely make a difference in the STK for a lot of things, it also guarantees that anyone paying attention to their map will see you coming, which Stealth entirely negates, and not being seen is the best way to avoid damage.
5:24 "This thing shreds vehicles up close" Up close being a car distance away, and anywhere beyond that it's literally impossible to one-clip an MBT, thus making it pretty much useless against tanks.
5:33 "It does well against Liberators, but not very good against ESF's" No, this is objectively wrong if one actually has any understanding of damage types, because if one did they'd know that Gatling Guns does twice as much damage per hit to an ESF as they do to a Liberator... Mind you this doesn't make it practical to use against either, but the statement demonstrates a huge lack of knowledge on the subject.
5:39 "But sometimes you just need 10 extra bullets in the magazine" It's only 8, and those 8 barely make a difference for what you can functionally one-clip.
8:34 "Next I have the Gatekeeper. It's a nice long range weapon, but it did get nerfed and I prefer the alpha damage of the Halberd now" It hasn't been nerfed after CAI hit, and the GK has higher alpha damage than the Halberd................
11:19 "Here we found this Lightning loose from the pack, and I already figured out that his sensitivity is a little to low" This is a bullshit post-hoc realization and you aren't remotely seasoned enough with the car to make such a judgement in the moment, instead relying on the tried and true circling that has been a Vulcan staple since the Harasser was added.
14:27 "A couple of Decimators and you're a goner, especially if they get your backside" The Harasser takes exactly the same damage from every direction.........................
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There's other stuff I find objectionable too, but nothing specific enough for me to delve into.
A huge oversight as well is not mentioning the Fury as it is currently far superior to the Vulcan for anti-tank duties if your gunner has any semblance of aim.
TTK demonstration here th-cam.com/video/5HIDYM6nbRc/w-d-xo.html
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TLDR: A somewhat useful video for absolute newbs, but also a load of bad info that shouldn't ever have been uttered.
I didn't know the way it was achieved was that Racer had a traction reduction, but I think the point still gets across calling Scrapper the option if you want better traction. While the squirrely-ness of racer can absolutely be managed, it still has less traction then scrapper.
I agree, stealth is definitely the best option in most situations, but when you are cruising around an amp station or watersons, or whatever infantry tend to get you spotted pretty fast anyways, plus you are dealing with lots of small arms fire, the little extra durability helps, even though its not much. I have been in the red many times in a base, where I would be dead with stealth.
The vulcan certainly didn't get all its guts back after tweaks during CAI but it is still a good weapon. I understand the Fury does have a better TTK, but the punishment for missing one round is much higher on the fury. And while the vulcan excels very close up, it can reach out farther than the fury more reliably.
You're not taking into account projectile velocity and what your target is. Libs are larger and slower moving. ESFs are small and agile. Trying to land shots on an ESF with any reliability is much more difficult then on a lib.
I find maxing magazine size is more useful in more situations then reload speed, that shorter reload speed doesn't net me a finishing blow as often as a couple more rounds do. Which do you prefer?
Alpha damage is damage per shell... Yes the Halberd has far more alpha damage. The GK has higher damage per magazine.
Not at a slow loping speed... If I thought the guy could be putting shots on me, I wouldn't be lingering around slowly.
Yes, I was incorrect, harasser has no directional resistances.
@@CMDRCyrious Hey so since we're engaging let me apologize for the slightly harsh breakdown, but I've been dealing with reddit people for years so I'm sure you can understand where it's coming from.
So it used to be that the Harasser was slippery with every chassis, but it had its handling severely changed because they reused and revamped that particular bit of code for the cars of H1Z1 which left it very sticky for every option, so Racer was retuned to try and mimic the old handling with some success, though it still doesn't approach what the old handling could do.
As for Vulcan, while it may seem to have more range to a lesser skilled gunner, in practice the damage drop-off neuters the damage potential at range severly. Now I admit that I'm in the fortunate situation that I have a highly skilled gunner, and it is with that knowledge in hand that I can confidently say that the Fury has more effective range than the Vulcan ever will, while also having the ability to play nicely around terrain because of the arcing trajectory.
As for Libs, I take everything into account. I've been doing Harassers since they got released and have more hours in them than most people have in the game (not that time is an indicator of skill). The actual issue is that practically speaking it doesn't matter against either aircraft as their combination of damage resistance, mobility, and the drop-off of the Vulcan makes any damage done anemic to the point of irrelevance.
The consensus among the Harasser people on the PS2 discord is that Reload Speed on the Vulcan is best as we expect not to one-clip stuff with the Vulcan in the first place due to how CAI neutered it, but it's also recognized that in practice it doesn't make a huge difference either way.
Alpha damage has a few definitions. It's generally meant to indicate the first hit, and while the GK spreads that over 8 separate impacts they arrive as one unified attack, which is why I prefer it as a measure of "damage per reload cycle" instead of "damage per round".
In my experience it doesn't matter how fast you move against a target, a good tanker won't have any trouble hitting you at close range unless you find a way to obscure your hitbox with terrain. Granted not every tanker is good, but it's good practice to assume everyone is a threat.
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Again I'm sorry for the slightly harsher than required teardown. Wrote the initial comment while engaged in a somewhat heated debate on the PS2 discord :)
All I've done is play harraser since I started planetside 2, I've got hundreds of hours in the vehicle and I have to say that I disagree with your composite vs stealth in CQB anti infiantry fights or any fight for that matter. 70% of the time im escaping with my harrasser with 100-150 hp (I can hear your argument already, no I don't die often and actually live for a very long time most of the time) it let's you take an extra tank/rocket and still get shot at by infiantry while living to fight another day. As long as you use terrain to your advantage you should be fine, its much harder to escape bit easier to survive. And the extra time in combat can really let you fight an mbt 1v1(2). The trick I've learned is if a tank misses twice the harraser wins, without composite they have to miss 3 times.
@@GroundTrooper No its no problem it was a good breakdown. And when the guide says advanced, you expect to be more geared towards the upper echelon, so its understandable to get more into the nitty gritty. Do understand though, it is still geared more towards the mid 60% I would say. (Which you still said it was a good starter guide) So above the complete noobs, but not all the way up to the top 5% you know.
The AA damage of the vulcan is straight up disappointing. I agree its probably not even worth mentioning its capabilities against the air.
I assume someone has done the math. In just RAW damage output, ignoring whether you could one clip or two clip something. Which has the higher damage output. I guess after a reload or two, reduced reload speed would start to have a higher damage output pretty quickly?
Understood on Alpha. Part of my love for the Halberd is its OHK on many different infantry types of targets. The GKs disappointing AI capabilities makes it more situational then I would like. I also find that with the Halberd you can time it on rough terrain better, whereas to get the maximum effectiveness of the GK, you basically just have to stay exposed and keep firing, even if half the shots are going to be lost to terrain. And then again part of it is just having spent time using it when it was OP, even if its still fine, it feels worse then it used too, so you tend to just set it aside, but that is not a very objective decision.
I did see your research that the Fury is the superior AV weaponry, good video by the way. It feels like you need a really top notch gunner to take advantage of it though, whereas the vulcan's forgiveness can give it an edge. But I see your point again, when it says Advanced, hopefully you are beyond a gunner that is missing shots.
Anyways, thanks for your expertise, hope everything takes a look at it and clicks through to your channel, your user icon should push that. :)
@@kwasy7663 But I don't need to take that extra shell when I don't get shot at as much in the first place...
Ahhhhh.....rumble seat repairing......
Id switch out the vulcan for fury
thanks man it helped u r the best
I hate they nerfed having someone in the back constantly repairing on the go. Can a Max still sit back there? Haven't tried that one yet. Harasser driving is fun. I spend all my certs on my Prowler.
Yes and with a good crew you can dominate, or have some great cover against air.
I have a questions. You have bullets on low resolution and everything else in moderate. Why did you set to low to keep the bullets and rockets on low?
Thanks.
Are you still playing this game? I don’t wanna take the time to explain if you don’t play planetside anymore
AFAIK, people boot the game up with low particles, but then in-game they put it up to ultra. This makes the tracers look like this without the FPS detriment of ultra particles. You can also see tracers for a longer distance this way. You can also put your .ini to read only so you don't have to put the particles on low again before closing the game, but you do have to put the particles on ultra every time you boot the game back up.
I wont call it "advanced guide", these are basics of harrasers but still good video will help new players
I think Renzor put up 2-3 videos more in depth. I'm not aware of others.
@@perianudan-claudiu2495 sadly renzors vids are quite old and both meta and skill ceeling of harraser crews changed a lot, some info still works tho
See you Planetside
Tanks for the tips.
Harasser go vrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
how do you get A7 now ? for weeks or month I haven't seen mission for it and it no longer comes from alerts .
Missions (Bounty Hunter or NSX Weapon Review tend to have this in their pool) or look for glowing blue dots on consoles in bases. You'll be given a use prompt to download and it gives you A7.
@@BlackSunCompany those consoles i saw few times,give about 50ish,but no missions i have seen for month if not longer had any A7 and i check regularly . getting desperate
@@devilsmessanger I'm playing with 3 chars and I see A7 in green missions almost daily for one of them (so 1 in 3). Try to do the missions which drop weapons first, so they won't appear anymore. Otherwise I have no idea.
@@perianudan-claudiu2495 that is weird, last 5 days i checked daily and none. what server are you on ?
@@devilsmessanger Cobalt, the EU one.
Put an AV MAX to the back, a Medic gunner whit maxed out Triage (this will repair/heal the MAX), and an Engi driver. Go revers, repair only the harasser and use ammo to MAX. In a squad at Hossin its fun!
Sir, these harassers are harrassing me.
I think a LOT MORE people would be interested in just the section (or immediate timestamp to the section) that hints at Harasser WEAKNESSES more than they would a full 20 minutes of what all their strengths are. I think most people are already well aware of their overwhelming strengths in a coordinated Scenario. And the community in general should also be petitioning the Devs to add more selective weaknesses as well (as opposed to just straight up hamfisted nerfs like the Prowler kept getting)
Weakneses are really mostly dependent on the person driving. Common all across every vehicle such as mistakes done traversing complicated terrain or accidentally drifting into a spin that lets you vulnerable.
Unless... of course... you're talking about weakeneses that are always present regardless of player skill? Hard to tell with the harasser, the low HP they have can be a good point.
I suppose its like an ESF but on the ground, if you hunt it down with enough determination, you can destroy it instead of merely scaring it away for it to return later.
Tank mines are the harassers weakness. That or any 2/2 MBT that can aim even a little bit
@@tprtiger > 2/2 MBT that can aim even a little bit
Very much that
@@tprtiger Ah yes, the _"Just Aim, Idiot"_ reply. So helpful. Much educating
@@Komyets They don't have "Low Hitpoints", they have High hitpoints for a "light" vehicle infact.... DID YOU MEAN LOW ARMOR RATING? ... Armor rating is what decides if a small arms projectile deals damage or not.
How to win with one of the most broken vehicles in the game...LUL
Marauder... I loled
What's causing the gun fire to be bright red?
Why the hell does this thing take 4 shots to kill from a fucking tank? It’s far to nimble to rate that much hp.
so i just begin to watch the video to understand this vehicle, but to be honest, i'm not really a big fan of this vehicle cuz i think that having MBT turret on it feel like u put a tank canon on a toyota, and i feel its unrealistic and not really making sense. i would rather having those kind of turret on the sundy, and having harraser having his own empire turret like the flash does.
but i'll watch the video now and see if it change my mind ^^'
How to win harasser WITH FREEDOM
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how do you get such bold tracers? When I'm in game and shots are flying all I see are itty bitty colored lines
Low overall quality and low particles.
Yes!
Yessir
Hate rumble seat repair got nuked from the game
Daily reminder that the Vulcan is not OP, and that the Fury and Gatekeeper are better in terms of TTK (and with them, you don't have to be within kissing distance of your opponent)
th-cam.com/video/5HIDYM6nbRc/w-d-xo.html
There are few things more disgusting and without honor than a guy who likes to drive an Harasser to just run over people.
Hahahahahahaha nothing more satisfying than running down nubs in your war chariot
I hate the harasser so much. I wish it was removed from the game. This 'light' vehicle can beat a lightning and usualy even a heavy tank 99% of the time, it's bullshit and a terrible addition to the game.
Harraser can win a MBT in a 1v1 only if the driver is very bad. Same with the lighting - you have all the chances to out-dps a harraser (and you will, if it is a vulcan one)
@@tka4nik And it has to be noted that the Harasser crews who actually do this often have thousands of hours doing exactly that, while the tanker complaining have a fraction of that, thus creating a huge mismatch in skill.
@@tka4nik Well no that's wrong. Infact the MBT driver and their Gunner has to be the higher skilled pairing to statistically win most of those fights; or they have to dictate the engagement which is nearly impossible because the entire POINT of the Harasser is to allow the Harasser driver to dictate most of the terms of every engagement. The OP exaggerated things a bit here, but at the end of the day Harassers still need some kind of real Soft-Counter... either from the Air, or from a new Flash/ANT weapon
absolutely agreed
@@GroundTrooper yet, that is something you cannot take into consideration,ironically , because that is Planetside 2 in nutshell . .all vs all,no matchmaking . but put equally good 2 pairs of players into these and harasser should win most of time .