Peter Hitchens: Cannabis should not be legalised

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  • Peter Hitchens: Cannabis should not be legalised
    This week, the Misuse of Drugs Act will be fifty years old. Passed shortly after we decimalised our currency, and shortly before we voted to join the EEC, it established a system of blanket drug prohibition that remains in place today.
    Mail on Sunday columnist Peter Hitchens still supports the act and says cannabis should not be legalised: "There are accounts of horrible violent crimes committed by people who have been using marijuana".

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  • @phil7725
    @phil7725 3 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    The only person interrupted was Hitchens.

  • @jasonjohnson4591
    @jasonjohnson4591 3 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    i would like to see peter have his own show he is worth 10 of them

    • @kamilziemian995
      @kamilziemian995 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agree.

    • @Competitive_Antagonist
      @Competitive_Antagonist 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'd love to see him talk about his views on both cannabis and COVID-19 in the same sentence. Sure, cannabis can cause psychosis in a minority of the population, but it's not a contagion like SARS-COV2.

  • @morden279
    @morden279 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Presenter lost control of the debate by interjecting his own opinions and thought he was bigger than the subject under discussion.

  • @Madmark50484
    @Madmark50484 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Even though I disagreed with Peter, The way he was spoken over was awful. The other guy was allowed to talk over unchecked!!

    • @carpog
      @carpog 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I like to listen to Peter Hitchens as well but you have to admit, if he didn’t get interrupted, he would just talk and talk and talk until the early hours.

    • @joeobyrne9348
      @joeobyrne9348 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@carpog I understand what you mean, yes he certainly can talk for a long time, but surely you can accept that in this specific situation he was in the process of making his KEY argument and to try pulling him up on a smaller irrelevant point is ridiculous, given that Blunt was not ever questioned or interrupted on his assertions (which I suggest were baseless in many places)

  • @TheSteve2305
    @TheSteve2305 3 ปีที่แล้ว +91

    Peter was 100% right. He sat in complete silence while the guy talked. He was the one who was interrupted. These presenters are a joke.

    • @jeffatkins6890
      @jeffatkins6890 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Well said

    • @Competitive_Antagonist
      @Competitive_Antagonist 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      He did the same emotional arguments that he accused others of. If I want to read a book critical of cannabis legalisation, I don't think it would be him at all.

    • @joeobyrne9348
      @joeobyrne9348 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The guy on the right accidentally admitted it. "I sat in silence for his, and I did for yours too at the beginning" (more or less, but the at the beginning is the important bit).
      This happens every time Peter goes on any debate, his opponents always try and interrupt him, to try and win the gotcha game. But they're to dumb to realise their point is illogical or plain wrong. Not every host interrupts him, but they did here. What amused me was host on the left expressing correlation doesn't equal causation about cannabis and mental health, but completely swallowed "medical cannabis has medical benefits" without asking the same question. The mental gymnastics of the pro drug lobby is incredible.

    • @rjflores438
      @rjflores438 ปีที่แล้ว

      Peter wasnt right. Cannabis has killed 0 people in the past year whereas alcohol has killed thousands.

    • @RomaniaDeAzi
      @RomaniaDeAzi 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      yeah, but you got to stop Hitchens when he is spitting lies.

  • @goodyeoman4534
    @goodyeoman4534 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Please let Mr Hitchens speak uninterrupted so he can complete a point. We know you disagree with him, but it does not further adult debate when you constantly chip away as he's explaining his stance.

  • @tech1238
    @tech1238 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Crispin Blunt? A suitable name for this discussion

  • @andrewjohnson5765
    @andrewjohnson5765 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    “You have to listen to the other side” says the interviewer as he interrupts Mr. Hitchens for the 25th time.

    • @jackspring7709
      @jackspring7709 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly: even by 1 minute into the interview I'd already had enough of the irritating little squirt.

  • @mariannedonne7494
    @mariannedonne7494 3 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Not impressed with
    interviewer constantly interrupting Peter

    • @edwoo631
      @edwoo631 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Tbh that was the best bit for me.

    • @devilscritic
      @devilscritic 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tbf this is the second video I have seen of him and the other wasn’t much better. I’m spotting a pattern here!

    • @becky4012
      @becky4012 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Peter on this occasion I am afraid is completely wrong on this issue, someone needs to correct him

    • @darrenalway4687
      @darrenalway4687 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pete the prat doesn't let people to get a word in he just jabbers on talking rubbish

  • @juchetony1910
    @juchetony1910 3 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    Whale was an embarrassment in that interview, trying to shout down Hitchens, then throwing him off the show. Pathetic teenage tantrum.

  • @rich1701
    @rich1701 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Disgusting conduction of the debate by the so called host.

  • @swanhar
    @swanhar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Why would they even bother have Peter on if they where to carry on like this!

  • @moose7314
    @moose7314 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Peter Hitchens can’t speak for more than 5 seconds without being interrupted meanwhile Crispin Blunt is allowed a monologue. Why even invite Peter at all?

  • @sourcescience
    @sourcescience 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Sorry chaps. Hitchens was the only honest actor here. You shouted him down when he said what isn’t dogma.

    • @arranrobeson3205
      @arranrobeson3205 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hitches claimed thc has been on the NHS for years. Completely untrue.

    • @jondeanpt
      @jondeanpt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Cannabis is an excellent drug but should be made legal for over 21's but we need debate with people that have at least consumed it for a period of time before cancelling it and going against it. Its like having kids...you have no idea until you have one

    • @LunaRose1312
      @LunaRose1312 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@arranrobeson3205 actually you're wrong, it has been its just not been made mainstream knowledge

    • @arranrobeson3205
      @arranrobeson3205 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LunaRose1312 years?

    • @LunaRose1312
      @LunaRose1312 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@arranrobeson3205 at least 5 but it could be as far back as a decade, I remember seeing a lady who had a THC oral spray for extreme epilepsy in around 2011 when the legalise movement really took off, as a cannabis addict I wish they would stop promoting cannabis as some form of wonder drug, it ruins lives and is incredibly psychologically addictive, ive been trying to quit for over 10 years with only 6 month sober stints during that time

  • @robdebell7846
    @robdebell7846 3 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    Typical of most hosts nowadays whether television or radio - ask a guest on to speak and then interrupt them when they are trying to make their most important points. Why ask people on to debate if they are not allowed to finish?

    • @dariusmccormack7793
      @dariusmccormack7793 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yes the best impartial host was nigel farage when he had an lbc slot

    • @HuxleyWasRight
      @HuxleyWasRight 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      they should take notes and then ask questions at the end of the monologue, having said that Hitchens does have the habit of babbling on and on, you have to interject at some point or he just keeps going.

    • @robdebell7846
      @robdebell7846 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HuxleyWasRight Perhaps or politely ask that the point is made quicker. I am not sure he babbles, rather seeks to fully set out his argument and the point he eventually makes. My point is that I tune to listen to the guests/their opinions and not the host(s) who invariably interrupt or throw tantrums when wanting to appear to in control.

  • @SagaciousFrank
    @SagaciousFrank 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    James Whale: "I'm not going to be spoken to by people like that, as well".
    Like what? You're behaving as if you've been sworn at or been insulted personally, when you haven't on either count. You're very thin-skinned, and you wouldn't last five minutes in my job.
    Oh by the way, it's the demand that drives the supply. So if you want rid of the gangs Mister Whale, then start by trying to decrease the demand. And to do that, you need to send out a strong message of deterrence by hard-line law enforcement and judicial sentences for people who buy, use, or grow their own supply of drugs. If you destroy the market this way, you will see that the gangs have less custom and therefore will dwindle.

    • @SagaciousFrank
      @SagaciousFrank 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Matt C , they haven't tried it. The police and courts ceased to prosecute possession alone a long time ago. A couple of years ago the police were present when hundreds of people were smoking cannabis in a park and they didn't arrest one single person for possession, nor did they confiscate any of it, despite it being an illegal drug to buy, sell, and use. It's been de-facto decriminalised, and it's been going on for a long time, meaning there hasn't been a strong legal deterrence which has led to an increase in the market for it.

    • @SagaciousFrank
      @SagaciousFrank 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Matt C , well I believe that's disputable depending on the specific countries, their laws, and approach to law enforcement etc.

    • @SagaciousFrank
      @SagaciousFrank 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Matt C , legalisation doesn't actually get rid of the black market, not least as legal drugs are taxed, whereas illegal ones are not, so undercutting legal channels. Tax is only one aspect of a complex argument and isn't to me the decisive factor in determining whether poisons should be legal or not. Both alcohol and tobacco as you know are legal in Britain and in many instances cause tremendous individual and social health and economic damage. I'm not saying there isn't an argument for taxation, but it's not the only (nor for me anyway most important) factor.

    • @SagaciousFrank
      @SagaciousFrank 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Matt C , no that isn't the claim. The fact remains that alcohol and tobacco black markets still operate despite widespread legalisation. So the claim that legalisation and the taxation that comes with it eradicates criminal gangs peddling drugs is false.

    • @SagaciousFrank
      @SagaciousFrank 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Matt C , well prohibition America isn't as black and white as it may seem. For starters, they tried outlawing a drug that had previously been legal and established in culture over hundreds of years. Also, law enforcement didn't really prosecute possession, only supply, which would never succeed as there's always someone willing to supply as long as there is a demand for something.

  • @ben31uk
    @ben31uk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    In Peter Hitchens case then we Should criminalise alcohol for alcoholics.
    I disagree with Peter Hitchens

    • @WalterKhayyam
      @WalterKhayyam 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Why does the question of the legalisation of cannabis have anything to do with the legalisation of alcohol?

  • @Aeronaut1975
    @Aeronaut1975 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I'm a big fan of Hitchens, but 100% disagree with him on this one.

  • @cailancook9720
    @cailancook9720 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I don't think Hitchens is inaccurate when it comes to some of the negative impacts legalization could have, however that doesn't change how silly it is to try and regulate a plant that can be home-grown, and has never been attributed as a direct cause of death. When we have hundreds of thousands of people dying from liver failure on the regular, one has to ask whether the benefits of legalizing Cannabis specifically would genuinely outweigh the costs.

    • @rodneyhull9764
      @rodneyhull9764 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Nah

    • @SagaciousFrank
      @SagaciousFrank 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      How is permanent mental illness any more preferably to liver damage?

    • @JwayT
      @JwayT 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He does talk in his book about the possible connection between cannabis use and violent behaviour and even terrorism

    • @lulabelle4527
      @lulabelle4527 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@JwayT he may talk about it in his book ("possible" being the operative word) but thats a very far fetched claim. What evidence does he have to back that up ? No wonder no one read the book lol.
      I like Peter, but he is wrong on this. So many people use cannabis, it does not have that effect on people. Thats other drugs like cocaine and mdma

    • @AnnabelleJARankin
      @AnnabelleJARankin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Every hard user I know started with 'harmless' mind-altering substances, chiefly cannabis.
      Legalizing it solves nothing.

  • @benlowthorpe3753
    @benlowthorpe3753 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    he doesnt know what he is talking about millions of people say he is wrong and he agrees no one read his book cause he doesnt know owt and every1 know it cause we all smoke or know sum 1 who smokes weed

    • @kevinb6831
      @kevinb6831 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The majority of people I know who smoke weed are losers. Just my experience.

    • @WalterKhayyam
      @WalterKhayyam 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      There are millions of people in the world who don't know anything then.

    • @CountZero78
      @CountZero78 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      And there are some people who are unable to construct a sentence without using 'txt spk' grammar and spelling...

  • @McChickenXCheese
    @McChickenXCheese 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    When five people get drunk they start a fight. When five people get stoned they start a band.

    • @noxlupi1
      @noxlupi1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Some do, others quit their job, stop calling their friends, and burn a hole in their sofa. Unfortunately, that is what I have most experience with. Even so, I am not against legalizing it, but I am against promoting it as a wonder drug.

    • @ASP1NALL
      @ASP1NALL 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      If five thousand people get stoned, a couple of them decide to machete someone to death.
      I truely believe in the principle that we aught mediate ourselves rather than the state mediate our behavior for us; but the notion that this is a drug without harm is naive.
      What's more, it probably won't be your son that gets hacked to death in the park.

  • @TomDingleby
    @TomDingleby 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Listen to Joe Rogan with Johann Hari. A much more sensible take on drug legalisation.

  • @danielsundstrom8312
    @danielsundstrom8312 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I agree with Peter hitchens, not a popular view but must be Said!

    • @UrbanAssaultSurvival
      @UrbanAssaultSurvival 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      CBD is not a CB1 agonist like THC is.
      THC lowers blood sugar and increases melatonin.
      Trying to associate weed with violent behaviour is such a boomer thing to do.

    • @danielsundstrom8312
      @danielsundstrom8312 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@UrbanAssaultSurvival Well there is a strong correlation between violent behaviour and use of weed. Im not saying it causes violent behaviour but should atleast be investigated to see why so many crazy killings occur when the killer is high.

    • @Mopantsu
      @Mopantsu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@danielsundstrom8312 that violence comes from the gangs dealing it. More people commit violents acts drinking alcohol by a mile!

  • @addersdewinter7495
    @addersdewinter7495 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    James Whale used to be okay, now he is just a emotive shrill.yuck 🤮

  • @Yonder792
    @Yonder792 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    No, has a ton of negative side effects, paranoia, decreased reaction times, delusions, hallucinations, inability to think straight, increased heart rate, respiratory problems, severe addiction.

    • @eastendthug
      @eastendthug 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Sounds like you're referring to alcohol mate

    • @charlieaskew5120
      @charlieaskew5120 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I’ve never experienced a single one of those side effects & I owe my life to weed. I was on the ropes with depression, having suicidal thoughts and smashing my own face in to cope with anxiety while taking “anti depressants” months passed before I tried bud & within 30 seconds it showed me how to cope with life. Years later I’m still not addicted, smoking pot very rarely but when things get a little too much I know it’s my release. Like anything else, used in moderation with a healthy lifestyle & not abused it is a completely natural solution to issues which we quite clearly do not understand from a medical perspective. ALCOHOL 10,000 deaths per year in UK. WEED 0 deaths worldwide, EVER.

    • @kevinb6831
      @kevinb6831 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@eastendthug Indeed, so why advocate making another dangerous drug legal?

    • @mixedracebajan6119
      @mixedracebajan6119 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      😂😂🤣🤣 Bollocks. They can't tax it simple as that.

    • @WalterKhayyam
      @WalterKhayyam 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@charlieaskew5120 How are you calculating the 10k deaths vs the supposed 0 weed deaths?

  • @phathuevos697
    @phathuevos697 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Conservatives "we don't want the government to intrude on people's freedoms"
    Also Conservatives " hey, stop using that plant, who says you have freedom to do what you want

    • @kevinb6831
      @kevinb6831 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You could also argue the left wants a societal policy whilst also advocating drugs which are harmful to society. Life is full of those kind of contradictions.

  • @gwantM
    @gwantM 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Im conservative and a stoner.
    We cant as a society look at ourselves and say, oh Alcohol is ok, but then THC/Weed is some how some sort of evil

    • @ryan.1990
      @ryan.1990 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It's because it's convenient to ban weed. Banning alcohol just wouldn't work. This is why I don't take anti-cannabis laws seriously. They aren't arguing from a practical or moral pov because if they were, they'd ban alcohol in a heartbeat.

  • @D97mgtow
    @D97mgtow 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I love Peter Hitchens but couldn’t disagree with him more on this one.

    • @DS-kd4py
      @DS-kd4py 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @animal abuser Real argument winner, that..

  • @nemosays6337
    @nemosays6337 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Terrible host and PH is right! they only want to hear what they already believe.
    Get rid of Whale; he's rude and adds nothing!

  • @rebeccamondloch4265
    @rebeccamondloch4265 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I've seen many fights through alcohol
    And none on cannabis it just chills people out.
    It's our choice to smoke it or not.

    • @wolfiestreet6899
      @wolfiestreet6899 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I have seen psychosis from cannabis. Not a pretty sight.

    • @WalterKhayyam
      @WalterKhayyam 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Maybe you should visit the "attackersmokecannabis" site and read the news reports documented there. The fact that you don't see it, doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

    • @rebeccamondloch4265
      @rebeccamondloch4265 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      When pushers cross county lines to sell drugs

    • @Durram258
      @Durram258 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Probably because you dont live in a rough area where drugs are common place, particularly harder drugs. Do you never face the awkwardness of some bloke complete off his head falling about outside stores, it isnt just about violence. Laws are supposed to protect the people whos lives you may infringe upon, not you, plus anyone who thinks drugs only affect the person who takes them is either wilfully ignorant or got a dark agenda.

    • @DavidSmith-fs5qj
      @DavidSmith-fs5qj 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It just I have heard this argument so many times, if only it was true, I have seen pitched battles between students and the police, and fights that started when potheads were politely asked not to smoke near the kids playing football, these morons were anything but chilled.

  • @adamaspinall9416
    @adamaspinall9416 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Peter Hitchens as usual was the only adult in the debate.
    James Whale and “Ash” was arrogant and ignorant as always.

  • @ben31uk
    @ben31uk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I would rather not give my money to criminal gangs but I have no choice

    • @SagaciousFrank
      @SagaciousFrank 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      How do you not have a choice, are you forced to buy cannabis at gun point?

  • @tomthomas4907
    @tomthomas4907 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Wrong So bloody wrong Mr Hitchens

  • @mwpdan
    @mwpdan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I consume cannibis around twice a month. I have degenerative discs. The pain can be debilitating. I have tried everything. Only cannibis works for nerve pain for me. I use a vaporiser as I hate smoking anything. I got a Cancard last month so I can pretty much go around decriminalised. It's a life saver for me.

    • @Mopantsu
      @Mopantsu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The health benefits of cannbis FAR outweigh any downsides. Yes. Prevent the young from using it as a recreational drug as it affects their formative minds. Make it a 21 years and over, over the counter drug and many drug gangs will go bust.

    • @easternundergroundsounds6977
      @easternundergroundsounds6977 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well according to hitches your a dirty criminal!

    • @Liam-yr4uf
      @Liam-yr4uf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You are an exceptional case. Cannabis is ruins most people's lives undoubtedly.

  • @SagaciousFrank
    @SagaciousFrank 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hitchens understands that correlation isn't necessarily causation, which is why he calls for an investigation. Correlation is what first alerts us to a possible causation of something. The tobacco companies used to argue that the correlation between smoking tobacco cigarettes and lung cancer was just a coincidence.

  • @tylerlowther8861
    @tylerlowther8861 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Blunt being blunt on blunts.

  • @danien37
    @danien37 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Crispin's chin is going ten to the dozen. He's on the white.

  • @tolkienist7905
    @tolkienist7905 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I bet after he says this he will go home and set himself up with a nice tall glass of whiskey or port......................... Hypocrite.

    • @rodneyhull9764
      @rodneyhull9764 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      crass comment

    • @tolkienist7905
      @tolkienist7905 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@rodneyhull9764 Shut up Rodney.

    • @jafar4marva
      @jafar4marva 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Psychoactive port?

    • @tolkienist7905
      @tolkienist7905 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jafar4marva I think you should google the term drunk and it's effects on the mind and body and it's addictiveness.

    • @jafar4marva
      @jafar4marva 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tolkienist7905 No need as actually I am in agreement with the point you are making ; although it's probably better to keep the argument against the wilful promotion of indiscriminate recreational use of powerful pyschoactive substances separate from the discussion of entrenched problems of alchohol abuse.
      There are endless examples of inhuman behaviour mitigated in courts under the pretext of having been mentally impaired by the effects of alcohol - more than 1400 years after the"repressive" Islamic injunction to forgo the minor "benefits" to protect society from the greater harms the arguments for freedom of choice prevail and are being extended to include liberalisation of deeply antisocial and damaging stupifying so called soft drugs.

  • @ResoundGuy5
    @ResoundGuy5 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    These presenters are a joke. Peter Hitchens was being his usual well-mannered self and all they were the ones interrupting him! Sort it out TalkRadio!

  • @ryan.1990
    @ryan.1990 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    >out of touch boomer yells at plant

    • @AnnabelleJARankin
      @AnnabelleJARankin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Nah, he just doesn't agree with you. Certainly not out of touch. His books and articles are amazingly insightful.

  • @arranrobeson3205
    @arranrobeson3205 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm of the mind set, you do what you wanna do as long as it don't affect me, so if wanna smoke cannabis crack on.
    Drug laws are only here to protect commercial interests not society.

  • @kamilziemian995
    @kamilziemian995 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love Peter Hitchens anty-cannabis stand. Mr. Hitchens, please don't stop fighting.

  • @tomthomas4907
    @tomthomas4907 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I always want to go out and commit a serious crime after smoking a joint Peter!!! What a ridiculous comment.

    • @kritiosboy
      @kritiosboy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I would imagine that all of those "crimes" were from people who happened to have smoked weed...and then drink some alcohol and then proceeded to snort some questionable powders.

    • @rodneyhull9764
      @rodneyhull9764 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      you might not now,but what about after ten years of increasing use?

  • @Cornwall1888
    @Cornwall1888 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    You can drink a bottle of vodka and take a box of painkillers every night and employers are fine with that yet I know people who have been sacked because they smoked on holiday two weeks before, that can’t be right

    • @kipp1231
      @kipp1231 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Drugs tested by people who are snorting coke in poncy wine bars at the weekend.

  • @djames6780
    @djames6780 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    He drinks when he likes, so why cannot I smoke when I want.
    There's plenty of alcoholics so let's ban booze, there's plenty of obesity so let's ban fast and ready meal foods.
    I do neither drink or over eat and enjoy exercise so why can't I have the Odd smoke now and then.

  • @nicksmith3245
    @nicksmith3245 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Legalise cannabis? Might as well legalise Russian Roulette as far as mental health is concerned.
    Spend time in a psychiatric ward and see how harmless it is!

    • @GhostDcuo
      @GhostDcuo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Spend time in a cancer ward and see how helpfull it is.

    • @nicksmith3245
      @nicksmith3245 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GhostDcuo I have, it isn't

  • @DrEO86
    @DrEO86 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    PTSD = Marijuana.... what kind of blunt is he on?

  • @squidito2534
    @squidito2534 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It should be legal, it should be taxed. Simple. Some people need it for medical reasons and some like to use it for fun, no big deal.

    • @ryan.1990
      @ryan.1990 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      *It should be legal, it shouldn't be taxed

    • @retrowrath9374
      @retrowrath9374 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      But you'll moan about the tax just like you do on the cigs and complain the government are ripping you off, but maybe no actually you'll be too high to complain. lol

    • @Mopantsu
      @Mopantsu 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why tax it when you can easily grow it at home? The only tax would be on products that are offshoots like sweet lozenges and vape pens etc.

    • @Mopantsu
      @Mopantsu 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      We don't want it legalized we want it decriminalized so we can grow it at home without fear of PC bigfoot kicking in the door!

    • @rodneyhull9764
      @rodneyhull9764 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      lets hope its not your kid getting run over by a stoned driver then

  • @mickfriday
    @mickfriday 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What has happened to James whale? What a plonker!

  • @roblloyd1879
    @roblloyd1879 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    No it should NOT be legalised.

  • @SphericalHang
    @SphericalHang 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Peter was hogging the time to be fair

    • @mfoco1
      @mfoco1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes. The presenter didn't handle it well, but Hitchens doesn't know when to shut up and let someone else talk for a change.

  • @gardenroom65
    @gardenroom65 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Prince Harry took drugs and look at his intelligence?! 😱

  • @raimesey
    @raimesey 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Weed isn’t bad. Sure some people have it that definitely shouldn’t but legalising/decriminalising it won’t change that. I’ve been smoking weed today and I cleaned the whole house, baked some banana bread and listened to Crosby, Stills & Nash. Pretty productive day off if you ask me.

    • @Innerlight320
      @Innerlight320 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And damaged your lungs and brain

  • @andrewlusty5584
    @andrewlusty5584 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sorry peter I disagree with you.

  • @AhhVeeDaa
    @AhhVeeDaa 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    These man need to have this debate over some stardog lol

  • @deanoturner1581
    @deanoturner1581 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Only violence after smoking weed is against pizza

  • @ben31uk
    @ben31uk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    One of my first time disagreeing with Hitchens

  • @jasonteam2057
    @jasonteam2057 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Peter - this is where you lose me, Sir

  • @PW-zs2yx
    @PW-zs2yx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I usually agree with Peter but not on this.

  • @Clareffic
    @Clareffic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Never thought I would say the words Peter Hitchens is ill-informed!

  • @PhilHorwoodTraining
    @PhilHorwoodTraining 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This show needs to get axed. Absolute drivel. How does James keep his job? Absolute disgrace of a radio show. Why Peter Hitchens or the other guest bothered to come on and waste their breath I don’t know. The whole conversation would have been much more useful, informative and a productive debate IF only James and Ash had called in sick and let the pair of them discuss matters directly.

  • @jdjones4825
    @jdjones4825 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Decriminalised...not legalised, concentrate the police and legal resources on sex offenders and violent crime

    • @rodneyhull9764
      @rodneyhull9764 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      why? ive paid for all crimes to get punished

    • @jdjones4825
      @jdjones4825 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rodneyhull9764 ?
      Your money would go further on some serious crime.....

  • @Wanderingwookie
    @Wanderingwookie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I like you Peter Hitchens but you’re so far off the mark it’s unreal. Cannabis causing violence is the most ridiculous thing Iv heard

    • @TomDingleby
      @TomDingleby 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      and illegal cannabis causes a shitton of crime in the illegal drug trade. Hitchens is unfortunately succumbing to ideological conservative prejudices.

    • @Wanderingwookie
      @Wanderingwookie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@TomDingleby totally agree. The violence comes from competition within the gangs. I don’t know anyone who smokes a joint and then thinks to themselves “right I’m ready for a tear up” Alcohol on the other hand...now there’s a problem that we all know and will happily admit

  • @talktv
    @talktv  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Should cannabis be legalised?

    • @pabz123
      @pabz123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      No makes people into couch potato's
      And ur life ends up revolving round jst weed it's torture take it from me who is a addict

    • @ben31uk
      @ben31uk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yes. Take the money away from the dealers

    • @squidito2534
      @squidito2534 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@pabz123 that’s you dude, sorry to hear that. i use weed friday through sunday and the rest of the time i’m working hard and chasing my dreams.

    • @ben31uk
      @ben31uk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@pabz123 Don’t be stupid in your case then we should criminalise alcohol for alcoholics.

    • @lumpyfishgravy
      @lumpyfishgravy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      How long is it since TR last asked that question? A month, maybe? The hobby horse is getting a bit tired.

  • @ben31uk
    @ben31uk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Legalise it and take the money away from gangs

    • @rodneyhull9764
      @rodneyhull9764 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      im sure they'll become wholesome virtuous people then ? lol

  • @rich1701
    @rich1701 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Give em hell Peter

  • @jackspring7709
    @jackspring7709 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Constantly interrupting the man and then throwing a tantrum when he refuses to be shouted down: what a bunch of amateurs. What a bunch of amateurs.

  • @mattybthecatalist8991
    @mattybthecatalist8991 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Sadly I’d agree if Alcohol was criminalised too otherwise a totally flawed argument

  • @scottagon
    @scottagon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Looking at the comment section It seems rather clear whom was in the wrong, and it certainly was not Mr Hitchens.

  • @jamesjarry1883
    @jamesjarry1883 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Hitchens basically fights every argument put to him with, "oh that's an emotionalism" despite the fact all he does is base his opinion off his outdated instincts of fear towards drugs with effects he doesn't understand.

  • @gwyllt5633
    @gwyllt5633 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I agree with a lot of Peter says but there's nothing wrong with smoking hash and it's not a drug

  • @AnnabelleJARankin
    @AnnabelleJARankin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What idiocy from the presenters! Go to the website Peter Hitchens
    mentioned to read about cases where people have had violent
    and/ or psychotic episodes while addicted to cannabis.

    • @AnnabelleJARankin
      @AnnabelleJARankin 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Matt C Halfwits to begin with.... according to??

    • @robwilde6857
      @robwilde6857 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      "Go to the website Peter Hitchens mentioned to read about cases where peoplehave had violent and/ or psychotic episodes while addicted to cannabis."
      Peter Hitchens doesn't believe addiction exists and refuses to accept psychosis and Schizophrenia are conditions because they can't be objectively defined. So, whatever these people were suffering from, it couldn't have been psychosis due to cannabis addiction.

    • @AnnabelleJARankin
      @AnnabelleJARankin 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@robwilde6857 substitute dependence for addiction then.... I actually think addiction exists but I take his point that it is self-inflicted.

    • @robwilde6857
      @robwilde6857 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AnnabelleJARankin I don't want to put words in his mouth but I doubt he would accept dependence exists either given that his reason for doubting addiction is that people can make a choice to stop if they want to and indeed, some people do so.
      Of course, he has redefined addiction specifically so he can deny it's existence but that's just typical of Peter Hitchens' logical failings.

  • @C.D.J.Burton
    @C.D.J.Burton 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've got a feeling if they all smoked some wedding cake they wouldn't be sitting there arguing about it like this.

  • @billybonds571
    @billybonds571 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ENDOCANNABINOID SYSTEM.... maybe get a education

  • @ben31uk
    @ben31uk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It helps with arthritis and epilepsy M.S and many other illnesses

    • @kevinb6831
      @kevinb6831 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm not sure he has ever argued against medical uses, although I didn't watch this full clip this time.

    • @kevinb6831
      @kevinb6831 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @S Anthony It's a bit like the argument with rape and abortion though, isn't it. Let's put it this way, in other interviews I've seen of him, he isn't really directing his ire at people who use it for pain relief.

    • @kevinb6831
      @kevinb6831 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @S Anthony He's held this position for decades, so it really shouldn't come as a surprise.

  • @lonewanderer3456
    @lonewanderer3456 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Take control and distribution of drugs...ALL drugs...away from criminals...but, as Peter says, do it right...don't do it in order to try and tax it or control it as is done with smoking. Minimise State regulation and simply allow it to be a part of the free market.

    • @Mopantsu
      @Mopantsu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If everyone was allowed to grow their own the drug gangs would be out of business.

  • @whitehorsemilitia
    @whitehorsemilitia 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    While Socially/Personally I do not approve of people smoking cannabis, what people do in their own homes are not the business of the state or myself. I'm not for legalizing Cannabis but decriminalizing it for private use in one's own home I am willing to tolerate but not out in public areas.

    • @rodneyhull9764
      @rodneyhull9764 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      chances are,they don't own their homes

  • @hamishmacgregor1136
    @hamishmacgregor1136 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Free the weed!

  • @jacksmith3095
    @jacksmith3095 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The rage this subject creates is always interesting to me.

    • @jacksmith3095
      @jacksmith3095 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @TFEA it’s the passion people conjure for wanting it legalised... astounding. It’s a cultural flashpoint.

  • @philipbrailsford3764
    @philipbrailsford3764 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As a user, I'd like to see it legalized but not in public just in private cafes homes, etc. I use to be a heavy drinker and arrested every week now I just smoke never been in trouble and smoke only in house. Also helps with arthritis in the back and neck

  • @DaboooogA
    @DaboooogA 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hitchens and Crispin Blunt meet again!

  • @matt94alexander32
    @matt94alexander32 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Should initially have licensed areas to sell and consume Marijuana like they do in Amsterdam. Adults make a choice so if there are any side effects they should be on the packaging and the responsibility lies with those taking the drug to educate themselves before hand. I wouldn't like the government telling me I can't consume alcohol or can only consume small amounts at a time. Give people the choice and let them decide what they put in their bodies.

  • @phillebong
    @phillebong 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    But I'll take an non approved experimental gene programming jab.

  • @LunaRose1312
    @LunaRose1312 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    SACK JAMES WHALE @TALKRADIO

  • @mikedee1771
    @mikedee1771 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It seems we haven't learnt the lesson of the US alcohol prohibition in the 1920's and 1930's. If many people want cannabis they are going to have it be it legal or illegal. If cannabis were legalised the supply would be government controlled and the more dangerous types excluded. An immediate benefit of legalisation would be the saving of thousands of hours of police time. It probably won't be legalised and so in ten years time we will be in the same place as today fighting a war that can't be won.

  • @benjaminkew9161
    @benjaminkew9161 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hitchens was 100% right -- and I am pro-legalisation!

  • @jjwebster1
    @jjwebster1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of the massive misconceptions everyone shares about smoking weed is that those on weed don't commit crimes because they're too stoned to do anything.
    While this is true the problems of drug use aren't just confined to time spent put of your head on drugs but the time in between when paranoia, irritability, anger and all those other negative emotions kick in. That's when I'm betting most of those violent crimes are being committed and I also know depending on how others gather data this side of drug use may well be omitted.

    • @Mopantsu
      @Mopantsu 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's rare in comparison to alcohol.

  • @danielpickins4167
    @danielpickins4167 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For issues like this, perhaps long form debate would be better especially with heavyweight debaters such as Mr Hitchens due to the extensive knowledge they bring?

  • @lulabelle4527
    @lulabelle4527 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Did he really just say violent crimes committed by people who have been smoking marijujana? 🤣 is he is serious? Has he ever had a spliff? 🤣

    • @garethroberts8767
      @garethroberts8767 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He’s bought into the reefer madness madness big time

    • @DS-kd4py
      @DS-kd4py 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He's talking about heavy users being linked with violent crime, which is undeniable. Not that people smoke it and have a fight.

    • @lulabelle4527
      @lulabelle4527 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@DS-kd4py I'm sorry what?? Heavy users of marijuana being linked with violent crime is undeniable is it? And what source do you have for this? Thats actually hilarious.. 😂 and not true

  • @Bobbynutty
    @Bobbynutty 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A rose between two thorn's

  • @aaronwalderslade
    @aaronwalderslade 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Ash offered a crack of light into solving the problem when he said that kids stopped taking it when they saw it as no longer cool and this offering was just completely brushed away and ignored...

  • @simisola4280
    @simisola4280 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    when you see the benefical efect it has on autistic adults ......you would agree that it should. ANd of course there are many other conditions where it helps....... As long as people are sensible and not doing jobs or driving etc under the influence. when we say cigerettes and most obviously alcohol is ok... the argument becomes redundant

    • @RUfrikkinkiddinME
      @RUfrikkinkiddinME 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      "As long as people are sensible..."
      That answers that, then.

  • @JohnBowring3D
    @JohnBowring3D 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hitchens is usually pretty level headed but he's way off the mark and clearly overly emotional about the issue. His data is clearly flawed.

  • @brianhoppy
    @brianhoppy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I hate any mind altering crap. Shouldn't we be telling our young the truth about the crap !

  • @raff23able
    @raff23able 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Peter looks high as f 😎

  • @alexjones6141
    @alexjones6141 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    No adult should be able to tell any other adult what they can and can not put in their own body

    • @TheNobbynoonar
      @TheNobbynoonar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      So, if that adult has children and elderly parents who depends on them for all sorts of mundane things (food, clothing,dropping off to school, medicine etc..) It’s ok for them to say “I’m going to be completely selfish and shoot up today. They’re just gonna have to sort themselves out” Or what about the airline pilot who thinks it’s ok to down half a bottle of vodka before taking control of the aircraft because “ No adult should be able to tell any other adult what they can and can not put into their own body “. Yeah, right!

    • @Mopantsu
      @Mopantsu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The cult of Covid believe otherwise.

    • @danielsundstrom8312
      @danielsundstrom8312 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Oh people never tire about that old slogan.. But is it really true? Maybe if you are a Robinson Crusoe living isolated on a remote island.

    • @alexjones6141
      @alexjones6141 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheNobbynoonar thanks for the meaningless straw man argument. Clearly both of those examples effect other people which is not what I’m saying at all.

    • @91Durktheturk
      @91Durktheturk 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alexjones6141 That is the whole point of his argument, that your actions always have an impact on others. The simple act of taking an illegal substance for instance, means that you are complicit in the shootings of drug gangs.

  • @jonathanselwyn4572
    @jonathanselwyn4572 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Alcohol has benefits and risks and is only destructive if abused and technically a source of nutrition, marijuana is not a source of nutrition and if smoked is far more destructive than both cigarettes and alcohol especially for the brain. Unless it’s hempseed oil that doesn’t contain THC, then no way do I think it’s should be legalised for health reasons to be blunt, smoking shouldn’t be legal either.

    • @Mopantsu
      @Mopantsu 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Vaporise it in a weed vape like a Volcano or a Vapcap. You leave all the carcinogens and only inhale the CBD/THC combination which has beneficial effects. As well as being fun. :)

  • @benlowthorpe3753
    @benlowthorpe3753 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    how is it a poison if it doesnt kill u peter

  • @jackrabbitism
    @jackrabbitism 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Peter Hitchens is a poor me passive aggressive victim whining about everyone else, then James Whale acts like a victim and it all comes to a meaningless end. PATHETIC

  • @myzamau428
    @myzamau428 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can't help but laugh when I hear the name Crispin Blunt. It's the perfect name for a cannabis consumer.