I'm too old to bug out, I will bug in a fight like hell to protect my family and property! I know my property and have a defense plan. No one will get on my 60 acres without me knowing it. Before they get to my home there will be a few surprises waiting for them. When SHTF all the family will meet at my house. Everyone has a responsibility. We may or probably will all die, but it will not be easy, and what little I have is not worth it.
The farthest into the woods I ever walked with no trail, if I had to estimate it, was probably somewhere like 5 miles. I was 18 and my buddy and I went on a survival hike essentially. My buddy was friends with the son of a guy who owned a powerplant. Guy owned a huge swath of land and it was literally mostly undeveloped so we got free reign of the place for a week. We took our long rifles and just spent a week out there. It was great. Bought one MRE each just in case things got bad but there was never truly any danger. In any direction we could just walk until we hit civilization after a couple miles. We ended up fishing and foraging and even got a few squirrels. I'll never forget it and I wish I could do it again.
They might be ok for a few days... Most will be in "camping mode". Once the food starts running low... Then the rules will change.. but I agree 2 weeks will change everything
I live in South Carolina, and many years ago when I was in high school we had a snow storm and a abnormally cold winter and the snow thawed and refroze every day for 2 weeks. The power was out in some parts of my area and no one could safely get to it…… by the time people had gotten to it they where shot at by residents……
Went cross country at Philmont boy scout ranch in 75, missed two check in stations. They flipped out. No big deal to us, we had a compass an map. Not sure how many miles it was, we were tired of following fire roads. Love your channel
Sometimes the straight line is faster. Sometimes the trails are safer. Choosing requires knowledge. Knowing either way will get you there requires experience.
Bug In is still the best option/ Plan or course of Action. However most plans never survive contact with the enemy. And like it or not the enemy always gets a vote.
@@STOKERMATIC keep up the good work. Semper Fidelis Bible and ⚔️. People need to think about a wide variety of things. Jack of All trades master of none.
Bugging out is a fantasy, unless you have a bug out location prepared and stocked with supplies, that you can get to within a short period of time. I have no fantasies about being able to live off the land.
3:02 wish I could say more than a few hundred meters but it's the truth. Imagine being in WWII running up and down all through Europe for years. Crazy.
Open Ground (first for everything) A Field or Sports ground Navigation Military Patrolling, Ambushing. Patrol harbor etc. So much harder in the bush (a crazy way to learn from my early experiences) Recruits...Go find your way over these giant hills and thick woods.... Always have a radio! Heh heh...if ever anything goes wrong.
Used to spend hours exploring in the woods when I was a kid. I couldn't even begin to tell you how many miles I would have walked some days. Definitely more than 5 miles because I would occasionally end up on the other side of town. A backpack with a couple of sodas, snacks, and a BB gun. That being said, I've run at least 2-3 miles nearly every day for the last 15 years (used to run 6-10 but just don't have the time anymore). I could walk/hike all day nonstop if I needed to.
I don't know if my coffee has kicked in yet, but I'm wondering how this applies to an urban bugout situtation? I probably wouldn't survive one of your class ;-) Hopefully you'll come up with a course for people who very little to no experience in the woods. You and Grunt Proof have inspired me to get started building a kit, at least.
@@STOKERMATIC So is everyone else and their mother. I get the point That would be a bad move on their part. They'll be in big trouble, especially if cell service is down, and they can't use their phones to navigate. On top of that, the people that live in those rural areas are not going to take too kindly to city people crowding their space. Bugout is a fantasy in most situations. Many people they're just going to pack up stuff, and make a run for the hills to live off of the land. Bugging out should be going to from one set location to anothere. It should be a last resort. Most people living in urban areas (big to mid sized cities,) don't know how to make water safe to drink, hunt, or do basic navigation. At best they've car camped. Most have never been in a situation where they've been tested mentally, and physically. The best thing is to not be in an urban area (mid size to large cities.) Either live in a rural area, that's relatively close to said city, for work, etc. Apologizes for the rant. I hate big cities, and I'm not too fond of the people who live in them.
You asked for longest distance traveled in woods, off trail. I'll be 48 in August. And I grew up playing in the woods. And I've been scouting and hunting all my life. I'm not an expert, but I have logged many a mile in 47 years.
Being a hunter , I average 7-10miles a hunt and 90% of that is all off trail . It’s my shtf training and it’s dam good training in many ways. Almost every time I’m packing out a 70lbs pack of supplies and meat.
I go so deep i come out the other side. Hence the reason of selling my rat 7 and getting a condor parang or a slightly longer and thinner parang for the occasional bushwacking. I weave the woods now with switchbacks but sometimes i dead end for a few yards. Love it. Bty im in Wisconsin not snake Country. I got that yankee step
My preferred SHTF plan is a "temporary" bug out to a local hide site where I can observe my home and property for a few weeks, while listening to the news on the radio. Using this method allows me to watch what is occurring locally, while still monitoring the wider situation, and gives me the flexibility to react or ignore what is happening at my home. If the government shows up at your house and you are there - you MUST react. If you are a click away watching - you can continue to observe and gain intel on the personnel that showed up or do some long range interdiction - your choice. But you don't HAVE to do anything. Once things settle down, I can go home or decide to do something else. Do what gives you the most flexibility - and good luck.
This video was perfect timing. I literally just went through my bag. And decided i'm going to stick with my get home bag and i'm going to work on making food and supply caches. I live in Tacoma Washington, so I guess the rest is up to God the father in heaven.
Not my longest but most recent. Overall it was 900 ft. I was searching for an Easter egg in the wetlands of NEFL. I knew the general direction and an estimate of how many feet into the thicket. After heading in on the first direction I left markers as I cut my way in until I was satisfied that I traversed past the egg roughly 500 ft. Next I entered from the opposite direction using the reverse azimuth from a known marker and headed in roughly 400 ft to find the egg and my original markers just 15 yards away from the egg. Mission accomplished using techniques from an increased tactical virtue. Thanks
Longest distance off trails and Not being seen or heard is a better indicator to help folks. Those of us who hunt on foot learn over a period of years. Go listen to these Gen x movement folks! Finally I suppose all you can do is suggest them to You, But many would be gone in 3/3. 3 Days without water and 3 weeks without food!
Way back in the early 70’s, I did archaeological surveying in the deserts around Las Vegas from a block map of 1 square mile quadrants. With good long range vision and plenty of physical reference points, it required vigilance to be in the right section. To your point, there were a lot of desert rats in the Mohave, and while mostly benign, I was considered a resource that might be exploited. Every ten minutes, find some elevation to view my back trail, every thirty minutes a direction change and at night a cold camp. Only visitors I ever had at night were wild burros and the occasional coyote slinking around. Nobody else wanted the job, but I loved it
If u bug out, I’m sorry but u r putting yourself at a huge disadvantage, the only way I’m bugging out is if I lose everything, because I have no other option, nobody knows my area better then me, so I’ll stay put, and not turn into a moving target, or a pathetic refugee
Judging by what u say, u r very inexperienced, I have fought in war torn countries, I see what happens with my own eyes 10 and 20 yrs ago and notice I never mentioned weapons in my comment, yes I have them for family protection , I know the game trails, I know the waters, I know the area, if I bug out out I know nothing other then my skills and what I have in that pack, to where I’m at my home base as it were, I have so many options that r endless, to with my pack it is not endless, I can help my family and local close friends so much better and have a community, to where AGAIN, I have nothing with that pack, and u best believe if I’m at that point of bugging out u r going to be dealing with a rabid animal!
@@alfanika2934 I appreciate your intuition but being hung up on one thing such as a fire, I get it, and I understand it, but even then where I’m at I would still not bugout nor put my wife and kids through that, u have not seen the eyes of refugees or there demeanor of being completely beat and lost, there r to many aspects that I will not put my family through unless it is the last resort
@@alfanika2934 popping off at the mouth and being a keyboard warrior makes u a nonessential, actually asking questions as to your I think the way I do with my comment would have made u look smarter and better to talk to, Afghanistan and Iraq is where I have fought and served
Here's the thing , most people don't live buy a 1000 Acres of woods, u would most likely have to bug out to your family's house or friends, what do all prepares don't have friends,
The real hunters will dominate in a shtf scenario and I’d hope to be with a group of like minded hunters bunkered down in a good spot when that time comes
I'm too old to bug out, I will bug in a fight like hell to protect my family and property! I know my property and have a defense plan. No one will get on my 60 acres without me knowing it. Before they get to my home there will be a few surprises waiting for them. When SHTF all the family will meet at my house. Everyone has a responsibility. We may or probably will all die, but it will not be easy, and what little I have is not worth it.
Same here.
The farthest into the woods I ever walked with no trail, if I had to estimate it, was probably somewhere like 5 miles. I was 18 and my buddy and I went on a survival hike essentially. My buddy was friends with the son of a guy who owned a powerplant. Guy owned a huge swath of land and it was literally mostly undeveloped so we got free reign of the place for a week. We took our long rifles and just spent a week out there. It was great. Bought one MRE each just in case things got bad but there was never truly any danger. In any direction we could just walk until we hit civilization after a couple miles. We ended up fishing and foraging and even got a few squirrels. I'll never forget it and I wish I could do it again.
90% of people that “bug out” won’t last 2 weeks. Most will be discovered the first night they light a fire and cook something.
They might be ok for a few days... Most will be in "camping mode". Once the food starts running low... Then the rules will change.. but I agree 2 weeks will change everything
2 weeks in mild and sunny weather. Inclement weather will have most crying for mommy.
I live in South Carolina, and many years ago when I was in high school we had a snow storm and a abnormally cold winter and the snow thawed and refroze every day for 2 weeks. The power was out in some parts of my area and no one could safely get to it…… by the time people had gotten to it they where shot at by residents……
@@ericgill6992who were shot at ?
@@dxioa the electric company
Went cross country at Philmont boy scout ranch in 75, missed two check in stations. They flipped out. No big deal to us, we had a compass an map. Not sure how many miles it was, we were tired of following fire roads.
Love your channel
Cimarron is beautiful country!
I think some eye protection would come in handy in that environment !
Ive started to carry and use clear saftey glasses when I come across the real thick stuff
What do they call the people fleeing their home with just what they can carry? Refugees.
Great point… bugging out is only good for going to a bug in location
3:12. 1.5 miles. And it was on the bluffs of the James River without a map or compass. Came out okay by knowing the river.
Awesome!
14 miles i used to teach land nav course in the MEANG in Bog Brook/Bethel Maine western foothills of Maine. hope all is well brother!
Good stuff!!
@@STOKERMATIC btw i lost three of my dogs in the ladst 2 years i know what you're going through.
I grew up in the sierra's mountains when people were lacking..off trail hiking, fishing, hunting was it. It's still in my memory muscle~
Sometimes the straight line is faster. Sometimes the trails are safer.
Choosing requires knowledge.
Knowing either way will get you there requires experience.
Bug In is still the best option/ Plan or course of Action. However most plans never survive contact with the enemy. And like it or not the enemy always gets a vote.
Agreed. Of course, it doesn’t have to be “bugging out” - could be dismounted movement for any number of reasons. But you right about Murphy!
@@STOKERMATIC keep up the good work. Semper Fidelis Bible and ⚔️. People need to think about a wide variety of things. Jack of All trades master of none.
Bugging out is a fantasy, unless you have a bug out location prepared and stocked with supplies, that you can get to within a short period of time. I have no fantasies about being able to live off the land.
8.75 mi at night testing iron curtain ...they caught me close to border,good video man
About 10k back in my army days in Georgia, while doing land navigation training
Good stuff.
Hey brother! Really enjoy your channel and content!! So sorry for losing Riggs, I really enjoyed watching him being on video with you! ❤❤👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
3:02 wish I could say more than a few hundred meters but it's the truth. Imagine being in WWII running up and down all through Europe for years. Crazy.
Indeed!
The wilderness of the US is far more vast than that of Europe. Some will make it with the help of God.
Bugging out is just another form of Evacuation from a Bad Scene.
Hold on hold on hold on 3. Is that Jason? You guys are lucky getting to go do land nav and comms and such a lot.
Good times!
Open Ground (first for everything)
A Field or Sports ground
Navigation
Military Patrolling, Ambushing. Patrol harbor etc.
So much harder in the bush (a crazy way to learn from my early experiences)
Recruits...Go find your way over these giant hills and thick woods....
Always have a radio!
Heh heh...if ever anything goes wrong.
Good Information Sir. Thank You
Used to spend hours exploring in the woods when I was a kid. I couldn't even begin to tell you how many miles I would have walked some days. Definitely more than 5 miles because I would occasionally end up on the other side of town. A backpack with a couple of sodas, snacks, and a BB gun. That being said, I've run at least 2-3 miles nearly every day for the last 15 years (used to run 6-10 but just don't have the time anymore). I could walk/hike all day nonstop if I needed to.
I don't know if my coffee has kicked in yet, but I'm wondering how this applies to an urban bugout situtation? I probably wouldn't survive one of your class ;-) Hopefully you'll come up with a course for people who very little to no experience in the woods. You and Grunt Proof have inspired me to get started building a kit, at least.
People in the city think they are going to “bug out” - that leads me to think they are hitting rural areas and the hills.
@@STOKERMATIC So is everyone else and their mother. I get the point That would be a bad move on their part. They'll be in big trouble, especially if cell service is down, and they can't use their phones to navigate. On top of that, the people that live in those rural areas are not going to take too kindly to city people crowding their space.
Bugout is a fantasy in most situations. Many people they're just going to pack up stuff, and make a run for the hills to live off of the land. Bugging out should be going to from one set location to anothere. It should be a last resort. Most people living in urban areas (big to mid sized cities,) don't know how to make water safe to drink, hunt, or do basic navigation. At best they've car camped. Most have never been in a situation where they've been tested mentally, and physically.
The best thing is to not be in an urban area (mid size to large cities.) Either live in a rural area, that's relatively close to said city, for work, etc.
Apologizes for the rant. I hate big cities, and I'm not too fond of the people who live in them.
You're already dead
Morning from the Huachucas
Morning!
You asked for longest distance traveled in woods, off trail. I'll be 48 in August. And I grew up playing in the woods. And I've been scouting and hunting all my life. I'm not an expert, but I have logged many a mile in 47 years.
Being a hunter , I average 7-10miles a hunt and 90% of that is all off trail . It’s my shtf training and it’s dam good training in many ways. Almost every time I’m packing out a 70lbs pack of supplies and meat.
I go so deep i come out the other side. Hence the reason of selling my rat 7 and getting a condor parang or a slightly longer and thinner parang for the occasional bushwacking. I weave the woods now with switchbacks but sometimes i dead end for a few yards. Love it. Bty im in Wisconsin not snake Country. I got that yankee step
My preferred SHTF plan is a "temporary" bug out to a local hide site where I can observe my home and property for a few weeks, while listening to the news on the radio. Using this method allows me to watch what is occurring locally, while still monitoring the wider situation, and gives me the flexibility to react or ignore what is happening at my home. If the government shows up at your house and you are there - you MUST react. If you are a click away watching - you can continue to observe and gain intel on the personnel that showed up or do some long range interdiction - your choice. But you don't HAVE to do anything. Once things settle down, I can go home or decide to do something else. Do what gives you the most flexibility - and good luck.
This video was perfect timing. I literally just went through my bag. And decided i'm going to stick with my get home bag and i'm going to work on making food and supply caches. I live in Tacoma Washington, so I guess the rest is up to God the father in heaven.
Not my longest but most recent. Overall it was 900 ft. I was searching for an Easter egg in the wetlands of NEFL. I knew the general direction and an estimate of how many feet into the thicket. After heading in on the first direction I left markers as I cut my way in until I was satisfied that I traversed past the egg roughly 500 ft. Next I entered from the opposite direction using the reverse azimuth from a known marker and headed in roughly 400 ft to find the egg and my original markers just 15 yards away from the egg. Mission accomplished using techniques from an increased tactical virtue. Thanks
YES!
Good stuff man looks like great gusy there !!
Good times!
Longest distance off trails and Not being seen or heard is a better indicator to help folks. Those of us who hunt on foot learn over a period of years. Go listen to these Gen x movement folks! Finally I suppose all you can do is suggest them to You, But many would be gone in 3/3. 3 Days without water and 3 weeks without food!
Good one tops. Hope ur doing well!!!
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THANKS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
After a period of time, you need to leave the trail you are forging and circle back to ensure that you are not being followed. Rodger’s Rangers…
Way back in the early 70’s, I did archaeological surveying in the deserts around Las Vegas from a block map of 1 square mile quadrants. With good long range vision and plenty of physical reference points, it required vigilance to be in the right section. To your point, there were a lot of desert rats in the Mohave, and while mostly benign, I was considered a resource that might be exploited. Every ten minutes, find some elevation to view my back trail, every thirty minutes a direction change and at night a cold camp. Only visitors I ever had at night were wild burros and the occasional coyote slinking around. Nobody else wanted the job, but I loved it
about 15 miles
Bugging OUT means YOU'RE RUNNING AWAY FROM TROUBLE, good luck with that 👍
Mostly true. Or youre moving to a better place of cover, concealment and supply or resources.
37 miles without trails in 1999 while hunting out west.
If u bug out, I’m sorry but u r putting yourself at a huge disadvantage, the only way I’m bugging out is if I lose everything, because I have no other option, nobody knows my area better then me, so I’ll stay put, and not turn into a moving target, or a pathetic refugee
Judging by what u say, u r very inexperienced, I have fought in war torn countries, I see what happens with my own eyes 10 and 20 yrs ago and notice I never mentioned weapons in my comment, yes I have them for family protection , I know the game trails, I know the waters, I know the area, if I bug out out I know nothing other then my skills and what I have in that pack, to where I’m at my home base as it were, I have so many options that r endless, to with my pack it is not endless, I can help my family and local close friends so much better and have a community, to where AGAIN, I have nothing with that pack, and u best believe if I’m at that point of bugging out u r going to be dealing with a rabid animal!
@@alfanika2934 I appreciate your intuition but being hung up on one thing such as a fire, I get it, and I understand it, but even then where I’m at I would still not bugout nor put my wife and kids through that, u have not seen the eyes of refugees or there demeanor of being completely beat and lost, there r to many aspects that I will not put my family through unless it is the last resort
@@alfanika2934 popping off at the mouth and being a keyboard warrior makes u a nonessential, actually asking questions as to your I think the way I do with my comment would have made u look smarter and better to talk to, Afghanistan and Iraq is where I have fought and served
@@alfanika2934 lol, I bet
@@alfanika2934 ur 10 ply bud fuqing soft, lol
Here's the thing , most people don't live buy a 1000 Acres of woods, u would most likely have to bug out to your family's house or friends, what do all prepares don't have friends,
There is always someone bigger and bader and a lot more knowledgeable to take your stuff
The real hunters will dominate in a shtf scenario and I’d hope to be with a group of like minded hunters bunkered down in a good spot when that time comes
25km around trip so 50km hike
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Stay off trails Top!😂
Most people trying to bug out will be starting from the cities.
Stoker, you ok bro? Something looks off.
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Bugging out to the country means your planning on living in someones back yard good luck with that
Indeed.