The Consolidated B-24 Liberator - In The Movies
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- A brief overview of the B-24 Liberator as seen in the movies
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Unbroken 2014
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A ww2 tail gunner once came to my school he came with paintings he had done of a burning plane in a dog fight. I remember being afraid to ask him anything. I was in awe of the guy. So I just sat in the back of the class and listened.
Well in all honestly I might have reacted the same way haha
I have the diary to one. He was 19yo and was scarred the entire time.
My grandad was a b24 rear gunner, would have loved to talk to him, but sadley he passed before I was born. My dad said he used to tell stories of how he would have icicles from his nose and how his hands froze to the gun.
@@JNelson_ Mine was a pilot of one in the pacific. I regret not trying to talk to him about it more. The only stories he told were the funny ones, like filling the hold with beer on one of the islands, and flying up to 10,000+ feet to chill the beer off for everyone below. I was in port at Saipan when he passed away, one of the islands he had visited.
He painted a whole portrait while in a dog fight? Steady hand I say
In the Ploesti raids the B-24s flew so low they could actually return fire against the ground AA units. Many planes were damaged and so couldn't make it back to their airfields. Dozens of crews bailed out over Yugoslavia where they were helped by Yugoslav partisans. Learning that there were hundreds of stranded airmen in Yugoslavia, the American OSS organized a rescue mission which involved building an airstrip (using volunteer Yugoslav labor) for C-47s to land on. As the airmen were departing, they would throw out boots, coats, or whatever they thought could help the Yugoslav people that had so greatly helped them.
My great grandfather was in operation tidal wave, 6/8 of the planes crew survived and he was hit in the leg by shrapnel, it was his last mission too, and his plane was forced to crash land
My great great grand father was a pow in Yugoslavia and proceeded to escape then joined the resistance there in 43 and then survived till he joined back with the New Zealand army in italy
@@professionalbeanie8342 Wow, what an incredible story!
@@djolley61 haha thanks
did the c47s coming in have supplies .. ??
My father’s best friend was a B-24 pilot during the war. He was shot down at a high altitude over France, and one of his lungs collapsed on the way down. He was hidden and nursed back to health by the Resistance, then smuggled out of France after several months. As a kid that was fascinated with military history, he had absolutely the best stories! I often thought that his story would make a great movie.
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My family lost someone in the air war over Europe who was a B24 navigator, his B24 was shot down on their 21st mission during a run on a railroad bridge at Ferrara Italy, of the 20 missions they made it through 3 of them were runs on the oil fields of Ploesti Romania.
And wherein there's been aviation writer's who've claimed that the B17 could absorb more punishment and keep flying I read a report by a researcher that did an exhaustive study on the subject that said despite what some aviation writer's and even some bomber crewmen have claimed over the years the B17 and B24 both had the same ability to absorb punishment and keep flying, one thing in his report he addresses is how some aviation writer's have misinterpreted the information they've found in their research leading them to believe the B17 could absorb more punishment than the B24.
I'll always remember the mission in COD the Big Red One where you would be a gunner
It is also Present in Call of Duty Roads to Victory in the Mission Lucky 13
2 am you got me nostalgic as hell lmaoo
What position gunner was it?
And if it was top turret or the ventral ball turret did it have a lead computing gunsight like they actually had in those two positions?
Best cod for me. I still get so bummed over Brooklyn and Vic's death the most.
@@dukecraig2402 you switched gunner positions throughout the mission. Some gunners are wounded. You also are the bombardier. It's really a nice mission especially since the game is...jeez, pushing 20 years old now? Damn..
The irony about the Laconia Incident is that the Kriegsmarine had fully informed the Allies that they where conducting a rescue operation. However the attack by the B-24 was ordered anyway by the US commander back at base . That led to the infamous Laconia Order for which the Americans accused the Kriegsmarine in Nuremberg. But of course, as expected, Dönitz defended himself about that and brought up the original reason of the Order and everyone learned what the Americans did in that day of 1942. And the accusations backfired...
Nimitz himself even stepped in to defend Donitz saying America practiced Unrestricted Submarine Warfare the same way they were trying to charge Donitz for.
To be fair, it was difficult to stage a massive campaign like this.
WW2 was probably the war where America realized the importance of logistics the hard way.
nice to know there was justice for that unjustified accusation, it was really sad to learn that the u boat crew had to take the hard decision to leave the rescued people or sink whit them.
It was a breakdown in communications between the British, who received the alert, and the American aircraft. A similar foul-up caused the pre-D-Day disaster as Slapton Sands.
@@64MDW Ah yes, the Exercise Tiger, a very successful training operation.
Only 749 deaths, nothing special...
When I was working for customer service, I had a conversation with a B-24 mechanic who worked on a B-24 called the "War Horse." He said that it completed 16 missions. He started reminiscing about the crew and told me about them. I feel bad for not remembering all of the crew, but he definitely didn't forget them. Then it got dark as he began to space out his sentences. He said that they never returned. He went quiet and said, "they said it crashed in the north sea." I didn't know what to do so I gave him time to process his thoughts. Then he said. "I would gladly build that B-24 from the ground up if it meant seeing them again."
Edit: Remember that the Pilots were Royal and Clyde. The others I remember were John, Jack, and Frederick. But I don't remember their positions.
The plane the man was referring to was #42-7479, “War Horse” which crashed into the North Sea west of Denmark on January 4, 1944. All crew onboard perished.
The crew goes as follows:
2LT Clyde W. Rigby - Pilot - Utah
2LT Royal D. Palmer - Co-Pilot - Washington
2LT Jack A. Wendorf - Navigator - Wisconsin
2LT John A. Dellitt - Bombardier - Texas
TSGT Floyd P. Martell - Radio Operator - Ohio
TSGT Clarence M. Mihalso - Top Turret Gunner - Indiana
SSGT Burdette B. Kaufman - Waist Gunner - Kansas
SSGT Steve M. Zubay - Waist Gunner - Pennsylvania
SSGT Frederick G. “Teddy” Coudriet - Ball Turret Gunner - Pennsylvania
SSGT Joseph P. Castiglione - Tail Gunner - New York
The mechanic I’m sure could never forget the names of the crew. However, you, my friend have a good memory.
@@HuLouThank you for figuring that out. I’ve always loved the B-24 so I had to read more, here’s the nose art: www.b24.net/noseArt/42-7479lg.jpg
And here’s a picture of War Horse dropping bombs: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:579th_Bombardment_Squadron_-_B-24_Liberator.jpg
@@radish6691 Dude that is awesome I wish I could see that mechanic, again.
@@HuLou It wasn't that hard to remember, all I have to think about is the term royal.
It's weird but this is how I remembered the names.
The Head Royal Clyde invited King Frederick, John, and Jack to the squadron.
My great uncle Robert Jennings was part of a B-24 crew during the Ploesti raids. His bird went down, and they never found her, or him. Theres a memorial to him and his crew in Italy.
My great uncle was a bombardier in a b-24 of the 8th air force. He was shot down over the Mediterranean during a bombing raid over Sicily. My dad was born a year later and inherited his uncle's name, which I inherited as my middle name.
He flew in the crew of the 'Warcloud' Which I am told is somewhat famous, though he died on another aircraft (presumably another b-24) when he volunteered to replace a sick bombardier.
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My mothers brother flew a B24 for the RAF it the later years of WW2, he piloted this aircraft on clandestine flights dropping agents and supplies in various parts occupied Europe. He started by flying a Halifax bomber. Unfortunately he died in a motorcycle accident in 1951 so don't remember him, I was five years old at the time.. I do remember my mother buying me a Revell model of the B24 telling me that was the aircraft your uncle flew...
Would have been interesting to ask him how the two compare.
My Great-Grandpa built B-24s at Willow Run, Michigan during the war. Once a B-24 that had been shot up on combat was shipped all the way back to Willow Run for repairs. My Great-Grandpa took the steering wheel from the plane, and it's still in the family. He was too old to be in the military, but he still did his bit for the war effort.
Thank you for this. I had an uncle who piloted the Navy's version of the B-24, the PB4Y-1, in the Pacific. Department of the Navy records indicated that he and his crew sank a Japanese midget sub early in 1945. A month later, they went out on a mission over the South China Sea and never returned. My father, born in 1938, once recounted for me the events of his seventh birthday. His mother was making preparations for his birthday party when the staff car pulled up in front of their house, carrying two Navy officers to deliver the news that my uncle was missing and presumed dead. A traumatic event that stayed with them for the rest of their lives.
My uncle is memorialized in the Courts of the Missing in the National Memorial Cemetery of the Pacific. I will be visiting Oahu later this year and intend to visit his memorial. Again, thank you for this video.
My great uncle was a Top Gunner in a B24 for a Year, until he was shot down over France. I was to young to understand and Appreciate what he did, and I never got his story before he died.
My Father helped build the B-24 at Willow Run in Michigan prior to getting drafted in 1944;his Brother was a Bombardier on a B-24 and was shot down over the Solomon Islands in 1943. He survived the crash, along with others and was taken to an Australian Coast Watcher, thus surviving the war.
I got the opportunity to tour the factory of a high-end audio company, and they had a crazy demo rig that they used for trade shows. The rep showed me the first scene from Unbroken, and now I'm falling down the Hi-Fi rabbit hole.
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I cannot imagine what these brave men endured.
If you've ever been in a B-24 or B-17, you can see the only thing surrounding you, and keeping you from gravity is a thin piece of aluminum, not at all thicker than a soda can.
Flying for hours at altitudes over 20,000ft, often in sub -zero cold and dependant on an oxygen mask.
Then the deadly anti-aircraft flak and fighters throwing jagged hot pieces of lead. If the plane was hit, you had seconds perhaps to bail out, that is if you weren't trapped by the centrifugal force of the plane spinning out of control.
The B-24 in particular had a weakness in the fuel lines where the thin wings connected with the fuselage; several pictures from WW2 show them with their wings collapsing in a ball of flame.
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I actually got to see the B-24, serial number AM927, fly and walk through her. She flies with the commemorative airforce. I also got to see "FIFI" a B-29 they have as well. The thunderous roar of those engines from them both and hearing a mustangs V-12 Merlin come screaming overhead. Lord I don't wish to here the sounds of the second World War live and in action, but...the echos these machines still make...raises a certain feeling deep in me and brings a tear to my eye. Without the brave men who flew'em who knows where we'd be.
Thanks for this. During the war my parents lived next to the runway at Debach, in Suffolk England. My mother used to wave at the B24 crews as they took off, low over the house. The waist gunners used to lean out and wave back.
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2 other movies with B-24s include The Resistance Fighter (2019) and Letters from Iwo Jima (2006). Never heard of the laconia or 13 Rue movies, thanks! Historically from the book "Unbroken", the author describes the physcial stamina needed to pilot B-24s due to an unforseen tendancy in its flying characteristics. All B-24 models had a tendancy to inadvertantly roll left, or at least desiring to roll slightly left. As such both pilot and co-pilot needed to constantly apply slight right aileron pressure throughout the entire flight (8-10 hours at a time). This can be highlighted in the movie Unbroken as the crew begins the emergency landing at their base after bombing Wake island. You can see how far the yoke is to input more aileron (albeit in the movie the yoke faces the left instead of right). Regardless a common way to spot the difference in a B-24 vs a B-17 pilot was noting how much more muscular the left arm was versus the right. Haha.
Love your videos, keep up the great work! Historian Approved!
Thanks so much! Excellent additional info and much appreciated. I completely forgot about The Resistance Fighter!
The roll was not the only issue with the B-24's flight characteristics. The B-24 tended to porpoise in the air if loaded to Army specifications. It actually needed to be loaded nose heavy so it obtained a slight nose down pitch in flight. This couldn't be done with a bomb load, but if in a transport mode, moving weight forward in the air frame made the plane easier to handle, and extended the range significantly. My father used knowledge of the technique when transporting a B-24 to England in June of 1944. He had forced his entire crew to sit in the nose of the plane to re-balance the plane. His tail gunner told him he would put my father on report if they ever made it to England. This was a three leg trip. On the final leg from Iceland to Scotland, the other B-24's in the formation were demanding to be allowed to land immediately because of low fuel. My dad's flight engineer reported they had enough fuel on board to reach their final air field north of London and were allowed to make that attempt. The made it with fuel to spare.
My dad was assigned to the 492nd Air Squadron. They had the reputation of being the unluckiest squadron in England. Early in their deployment, a crippled B-24 from that squadron was in wheels down mode, signifying that it was crippled and no longer a fighting machine which the Germans treated as being no longer a target for attack. Unfortunately, a German fighter came up close to the stricken bomber, and one of the gunners unloaded on the German fighter. After that, Bombers of the 492nd were given no mercy from the German fighter corpse. Of the original 36 crews of the 492, only 6 of those crew survived intact to return home. The rest were shot down, or crews sustained so many dead and injured to have had the individual crews disbanded.
My dad and his crew avoided that fate. He and his nine additional crewmen served their 50 missions and returned home with none of them being eligible for a Purple Heart.
Someone should make a movie about the missing B 24 that was found in the North African desert about 15 years after WW11 ; it was called "The Lady be Good" . It was a very interesting and spooky story .
There was a made for tv movie called Sole Survivor, loosely based on the Lady Be Good, in 1970. It has had a dvd release.
The tiny town of Tocumwal in Australia, pop 2,500, has a large aerodrome with 2 x 1200 metre long runways. During WWII, it was a Liberator training base
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B-24, there is another story about such an aircraft and its crew that needs to be filmed:
The Rüsselsheim massacre was a war crime that involved the lynching and killing of six American airmen by townspeople of Rüsselsheim during World War II.
The incident happened on August 26, 1944, two days after a Consolidated B-24 Liberator bomber of the United States Army Air Forces was shot down by heavy anti-aircraft fire over Hanover. (Great video Johnny!)
Hardly a warcrime then.
@ϟϟ You can't go around linching soldiers you capture. That's a warcrime.
Always been one of my favorite planes. "Strawberry Bitch" is a great surviving plane that I've seen in the USAF Museum in Dayton, OH. But I think playing as a B24 bombardier in CoD 2: Big Red One is what started it for me.
I talked to an old bomber crewman many years ago. He told me when he joined up later in the war, as he was sitting there deciding crew positions when they were offered on a volunteer basis, he was told that tail gunners and ball turret men were paid twice as much as the rest of the crew. Being young and eager, he thought that was amazing and for the life of him couldn't figure out why that was and jumped on that rather quickly. After a couple of battles, he later learned that those two positions were thee most lethal positions on any bomber and that's why they paid so much. Safe to say he stopped volunteering for those spots rather quickly.
Forgot to mention one of the most infamous B-24 was the Lady Be Good which was believed to have been lost with its nine-man crew in the Mediterranean Sea while returning to its base in Libya following a bombing raid on Naples on April 4, 1943. The wreckage was accidently discovered in 1958. The reason for its dissappeance and the fate of the crew remains a poignant mystery.
My Uncle spent the last 3 months of WWII in Europe in a German POW camp after being shot down in B-24 bomber. Coincidentally I live very close to where approximately 1/3 of the bombers were manufactured. Great video!
Went to an air show near my home that had a B-24 on display and what stood out to me was how cramped it was. There was very little room to move around in, so my respect to all those who served on them during the war because that is a job I know I could not do.
I flew on that B-24 and was able to explore most areas. It is only cramped in the areas to access the bombardier and front turret. By the waist gunners, the area is massively large and open.
My dad piloted a B-24 out of Mendelsham, England in 1944. He commented that he couldn't see his wing tip lights when taxing, but could in flight as the wings flexed up. His group switched over to
B-17s, the bomber he was initally trained on. On 10/07/44 flak blew off the tail of his B-17 near Merseberg, Germany. Six of the nine onboard survived. He was a POW at Stalag Luft 1 and later was liberated by the Russians.
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Well I'm glad! I'll try to mix some tanks in there too :)
@Johnny Johnson Can't wait, I love tanks too.
The B-24 was nicknamed "The Flying Coffin" by her aircrews because there was only one exit near the rear of the aircraft. This made it difficult if not impossible for aircrews to get out of a stricken aircraft.
Actually...you could exit the B-24 through the open bomb bay or through the waist windows. I flew in one of the last two flyable Libs - Witchcraft - a couple of years ago.
Meanwhile the B-17 was actually more vulnerable but had so many places to bail out. And B-24 crewmen were more likely to get killed or seriously injured individually by shrapnel or bullets because the Liberator was only armored in critical areas.
A good friend of mine, Gene Spencer, was a waist gunner on B-24s and flew in Operation Tidal Wave. His Liberator was so badly damaged it had to crash land in Turkey where the surviving crew members were interned until the OSS could arrange their "escape" ($$$). Recently his son discovered the original orders they received regarding pay reimbursement and per diem for their repatriation. He emailed me a copy and I noticed Gene's last name had been misspelled. Fortunately, this did not delay his departure or present any problems at the border. As an aside, Gene had a low opinion of the B-24 during his earlier assignment in England until he visited one of the RAF bases. After getting a good look inside a Lancaster bomber, he decided the B-24 wasn't so bad by comparison. He regarded the Lanc as something made from tinfoil, spit, bailing wire, and chewing gum (or words to that effect).
All in all the B-24 was a solid aircraft. It had 60 km/h faster cruising speed than the B-17. Doesnt sound much, but it means much less time over target and thus less chance of being hit by AAA. The B-24 had much better firing angles for its defensive armaments. An fighting coming from the rear, high could be engaged by both tail and dorsal turret. Something the B-17 could not do. The B-24 also flew higher(10 800m vs 8500m b17) and had slightly more bombs on a typical mission. Aswel as much longer range.
The main downside of the B-24 was the wing's survivability. And a B-24 was not easy to fly.
As for the Avro Lancaster Well, its a decent rugged bomber, but it was a BAD aircraft to bail out from. Here come some sad facts=
American bombers= 50% average.
British bombers HP Halifax & Short stirling= 25%
Avro lancaster= 15%
Why? US Bombers had large and very easy to open escape hatches. Its like the M4 Sherman. It was the safest tank to be and escape from. British heavy bombers had less because they flew at night (thus difficult to find hatches) and well, they had small escape hatches. The lancaster had a hatch wich was 22 in × 26.5 in (56 cm × 67 cm) large. Very small. The stirling & halifax had a hatch 2 inch/5cm wider wich alone was responsible for the higher survivability rate of the crew.
So yeah, the B-24 was a better bomber overall
@@F4Wildcat I agree with most of your comments but I must take issue with one of your claims. The B-17 had a much higher service ceiling than the B-24. The same feature that made the B-24 faster and longer ranged, the Davis wing, kept it from achieving the preferred safer operating altitude. Load-out weight would vary according to mission profile, but the B-24 typically operated at 25,000 ft and had a maximum altitude of 28,000 ft. The B-17 could easily operate at 30,000 ft and had a maximum ceiling over 36,000 feet.
@@Paladin1873 Thats odd, my source said the opposite, sorry for the mix-up and thank you for the correction.
@@F4Wildcat No problem. I wasn't aware the B-24 had superior defensive gun positions, so we all learn something.
Great information. I've only seen Unbroken but I'll definitely have to look for the others.
I was able to help restore the 24 in Tucson as a teenager.
Definitely a great aircraft.
The B-24 Liberator is to me one of the most aesthetically pleasing aircrafts I’ve ever seen. I have a mini steel model of the aircraft that I just stop what I’m doing and admire every once and a while.
one of the most pleasing aircraft* (plural = singular)
It was a beautiful compact aircraft, we loved it.
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While I was stationed at Carswell A.F.B. Ft. Worth, Texas I watched a B24 land there some time in 1968 or 69. Report was it was from the Indian Air Force and was being returned to the U.S.
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Was reading in my grandfather's old flight class book some signatures. One from a friend was razzing him for piloting a B-17 over his 'better' B-24.
The OSS B-24s were the 492nd "Carpetbaggers" who dropped supplies and agents
Great video, I always like learning more about the B24. My grandfather was a B24 navigator in the pacific. Originally he wanted to be a pilot but he scored too high in math on the aptitude exam. He died when I was very young, wish I could have heard anyof his stories.
This was a particularly good show, JJ! Very well done and constructed, paced and executed. Great work.
Trenchard -I think - is the chap who developed the inter war doctrine that espoused the idea that “the bomber will always get through!” and that wars would be won with strategic bombing alone. Fear of gas attack (the H Bomb of the day) and the terrible events at Guernica compounded this belief.
In the Pacific the much vaunted Zero came a cropper against box formations. Non of its advantages really mattered in attack and it’s failing were amplified. British and American defensive fire doctrine was to force off attackers rather than try and shoot down* The gunner would fire a stream at the attacker which would force the fighter to either fly through it or miss the target. Determined fighter pilots would chance a few hits but with the zero this was often fatal. As with a lot of stats at the time the allies underestimate kills against the zero as so many crashed en route back due to battle damage sustained - most commonly holed tanks.
Anyway, great stuff mate. A very well put together and presented show!:)
*My mums next door neighbour was a dorsal gunner on a Halifax - he told me this.
Thanks brother and thanks for always taking the time to add some info in for me as well :)
@@JohnnyJohnsonEsq well, you know me, JJ! Getting me to shut up is the trick:)
My friend’s great grandfather was a pilot or co-pilot of a b-24 liberator called “The Little LuLu.” I actually found out that the b-24 crashed, but I don’t remember if he bailed out or not.
I knew a guy who had been a B-24 co-pilot, shot down on his 11tth mission, pilot froze at the controls, he got everybody out including the pilot, all reached the ground safely, he got a Bronze Star for it, and he spent a year in a POW camp in Germany. I asked him what the worst thing was about being a POW, he said "no girls" and his wife blushed. The Collins (?) Foundation B-24 had a stop near us and I bought him and his wife tickets to ride. She didn't, but their son did, and the crew went out of their way to get him into his old seat after the flight, and I swear he looked 50 years younger hanging out the window for pictures. He got a kick out of the flight being in Lincoln California, because when they picked up their B-24 to fly to England, it was from Lincoln Nebraska.
One of the reasons, perhaps the primary one - for the number of B-24s built - was the
Willow Run Plant
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willow_Run
Ford built this factory from scratch - and designed it to mass produce B-24s the way Ford had mass produced cars. It took some effort to get it going - but once it did - it really cranked them out.
18,188 B-24's were built as opposed to 12,731 B-17's. It was faster than the B-17, had greater range and carried a larger bomb load.. So - why was it that the B-17 dropped more bombs in WWII and was preferred over the B-24?
Possibly because so many B-24's were used as search aircraft.
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My dad was a crewman on a B 24 in Europe during WW2 Italy and North Africa . . He love that airplane said it was tough as nails . . Must have been he survived the war
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That fight scene I unbroken is terrifying. Those ball gunners were actually insane.
Dad was a 2nd LT in the Army Air Corps CBI 1943, 44.. He said a lot of guys hated the B-24, called em flying coffins.
Fun Fact:
The B-24 also made a couple of appearances in Oppenheimer being flown by William Borden (David Dastmalchian) when he witnessed a V2 rocket flyby
Also those scenes of Oppenheimer imagining he was in Borden's seat
I always loved the design of the B-24.
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My grandfather was a tail gunner in the pacific died in 2016. He had a bullet fragment in his finger .
My grandfather ended up in the post WW2 focus on bombing training. He ended up being a bomber trainer for B-52 crews that flew in the Korean War. If only he got to live long enough to see the silently hovering anti gravity craft that I his grandson got to serve on and be near in the Navy. In 2022 the Truth is stranger than any science fiction, our aerospace history post WW2 to now is all a censored classified Truth purposefully left in the shadows while we keep being shown “new” yet really antiquated equipment like jet turbine engines and rockets. R.I.P. Grandpa, I’m sure you looked down and over me as I earned my wings in my own way that I never get to really talk about.
There is a dedicated film called The Story of Willow Run, by the Ford Motor Company, which documents the production of the Liberators in the titular plant. It produced the highest number of Liberators and is known to produce a Liberator every 1 hour, 7 days a week.
Excellent thank you for adding that! Wish I had added that in now.
The Axis never stood a chance.
My grandfather worked there during the war. I have some memorabilia from him from that time like about buying war bonds. Ford used some photos of the items for an in-company magazine. I felt honored to share them and his memory!
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The story of Ford building B24's and the Willow Run Plant is one of the most incredible stores of the war, not only did they pump out a bomber every hour but they also made their own engine's for them, it's not like they were getting the engine's from Pratt&Whitney, they actually made them themselves, that's building more of the bomber than Consolidated did, the Sperry made top and ball turrets were about the only major components of them that Ford didn't make themselves.
One 4 engine bomber an hour 24 hours a day 365 days a year, the Axis never stood a chance.
i had a sunday school teacher long ago who was a pilot in the 7th BS 34th BG. he flew '24s until the entire 2nd bomb division transitioned to '17s. he said the 17 flew pretty easy compared to the Lib.
ive always said the Liberator got the short end of the stick when it came to its qualities because everyone mostly saw Forts in the movies and everyone believed it was a better plane based on the one photo of the 24's wing folding at the root when it was hit dead on with flak in a raid on the Carolines...
I have seen a number of good war movies I hadn't previously known about through this channel, thanks (* I will look for The Sinking of the Laconia.
It had a made for TV vibe but it's well worth watching
I have been looking forward for this one and I was not disappointed.
I got you
5:20 If I remember correctly the B-24 didn't just happen to stumble upon U-156 but was ordered to bomb it despite those giving the order knowing that it was rescuing the passengers of the Laconia.
Good to know about the B 24. And thanks for informing on other B24 missions
B24s were built down the road from me at WillowRun Bomber Plant during ww2, not much remains of the plant now a days besides a original hanger space, with the help of Henry Fords style of production the hanger doors would open every hour birthing a new bomber.
Highly recommend to visit Willowrun still is a active airport
Now I wanna see that old Cagney movie just to find out why that guy cut the parachute cord of the guy who jumped before him.
I didn't realize that they made a movie for "Unbroken". I've only ever read the book.
Well worth checking out. Most people seem to enjoy the book more but appreciate it for it's own merits.
Probably my Most Favorite American Bomber, aside from the Ubiquitously known B-17s and the B-25s, it may not be that Famous as its Bigger Cousins, but it Certainly did get the Job done, and did its Part in the War, what I also Like about this Aircraft spawned an Gunship Variant which also inspired a Gunship Variant for the B-17, but alas, the results were left to be desired and are mostly Negative, which led to the Cancellation of the Project, would have been nice to see Gunship Variants of these Bombers.
Excellent Video as Always Johnny! Keep up the Great Work!
Keep the Amazing Content Rolling, my Friend!
Man, your capacity to condense in a single short video all this information is overwhelming!!! But I like the most the comments of people that know somebody living those times. We must remember them or we will repeat them.
My father was a radio operator on a B24 in Europe and was in 1 of the first mass daytime raids over Nazi Germany. There his plane was shot down and he spent a year as a POW
Glad he survived being shot down
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Really enjoyed this video - thank you. I just recently read Stephen Ambrose’s “The Wild Blue”, and have a book about Willow Creek on my ‘to read’ list.
One of my personal favorite bombers of all time during WW2 but its sad that the B-24 Liberator didn't get much love or popularity during the war meaning it was a bomber waiting to be chosen when it was time unlike the the famous B-17G flying fortress got loved The B-24 Liberator was the most underrated bomber of all time during ww2 from it survice in 1939 to 1968 by the Indiana air force he was like the little brother of ww2 while the B-17G was the older. Brother because he was so popular and yes Jonny and im a John to but mostly Jonathan lol 😅but mostly The Liberator was the Highly produced Bomber plane during WW2. and climbs more caries more bombs than the B-17G and can go more farther than the flying fortress and i always play this bomber every time because its one of my Favorite bombers of WW2 the underated Legendary one of the best Bombers of WW2.The B-24J liberator
You said it had a service ceiling of 28,000 feet, significantly lower than the b17. I think the b17 usually bombed from about 22,000. I don't know what it's maximum ceiling was.
I think 38,000 ft. Makes a difference flying nice and high on route to your target.
Loved this bomber since I was a kid playing CoD 2 The Big Red One
Love your videos Johnny their always fun to listen to and learn abt the different models keep up the great work man
Well thanks for the kind words :)
... they*re* always fun to listen to ...
@@einundsiebenziger5488 yea thanks for the grammar correction :/
"Lady Be Good" was a great B-24 movie as well
My great grandpa was in the lower ball turret on a b24 bomber.
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I love your channel dude. The first model my dad an i built was a b24.
Thanks man! My dad loved the big 4 engined bombers too.
My father maintained and repaired electronics including radar on B24’s in the 15th Air Force near Foggia in WW2.
Never heard of the C-87 before, always interesting to find new aircraft from the war on this channel, great thing about the box car shape of the bomber always enough room for some fine nose art
The nose art is my favorite part! I should a video on just that though I might get a strike for some of the art hmmm
@@JohnnyJohnsonEsq as far as I know it’s not copyrighted or anything just historical art if anything
I know some of it is just a bit naughty ya know
@@JohnnyJohnsonEsq um just put a mature warning before the video perhaps, besides people who are going to be watching it will probably already know that nose art on either side was not particularly PG rated
I was watching Act of Valor, and there was a mention of the Liberator.
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I absolutely love your channel.
Thanks Ronald I appreciate the words!
The grandfather of guy who was an acquaintance to s.one who dated my cousin twice removed on my step-mother side was a cook in the mess of a B24 squadron in the Pacific. We all knew he saw a lot of horrible things - from powder eggs to dehydrated eggs. But we were afraid to ask. We all were in awe of the guy. He is 104 year old now and he is the reason why I am now a nuclear engineer .
Great video
True heroes ,thanks Johnny...
My dad knew a friend that flew them got shot down twice and still survived the war as well and i still read there news letters about the squadron as well
Good nod to Tidal Wave.
Don't forget the original Twilight Zone episode that was a homage to the Lady Be Good.
A little context regarding Lady be Good. It's crash site in the desert was discovered in Nov 1958 and captured the imagination of the public on the crew's cruel fate lost in the desert. Rod Sirling's Twilight Zone episode Flight to No Where, centered on a crewman of a B25 who missed his bomber's final flight and was having mental flashbacks to being with his crew & lost in the desert.
My late father was a nose-gunner/armorer on a B-24 that flew out of a base near Foggia, Italy. By the time Dad got over there, the Luftwaffe was pretty beat up so they only had to deal with flak...which was bad enough. After one mission they had lost two engines and thought they were going to have to ditch in the Adriatic. Instead, a US fighter pilot spotted them and took them to the Yugoslavian Island of Vis controlled by Tito's partisans. After they landed, the plane was pushed over the end of the runway because it was too heavily damaged to be repaired. The crew got back to Italy in about a week, otherwise I wouldn't be able to tell this story!
i read a comment of another youtube vid of the b24 that one guy who flew one of these handled like a dump truck for the handling made you fight the controls so you don't crash into someone during flight
First time I've seen any of my virtual footage in another creator's video (@2:00). Great video, by the way!
Thanks man! You cool with it? I tagged your channel in the corner of the video. Glad you were able to stop in and check out the video 🙏
I have to admit I did do a double-take when I first saw it. But, yeah, I’m perfectly fine with it. I’m all about aviation history, so if I can help another creator every now and then, it’s cool.
Love the videos JJ
Thanks Logan 🙏
how ironic that one of the B 17's original duties was to be that of bombing ships , yet it was the B 24 that was better known for this role , also , unlike the B 17 , the B 24's ball turret was retractable
I've had the amazing opportunity of being able to tour an early war b-24-a, but the only downside was that they removed the bomb-bay doors.
(Fun-fact)-this b-24-a was the 18th one off the assembly line.
That was Diamond Lil she is a B-24 overseas sales variant called an LB-30. A landing accident damaged her bomb bay. She was then rebuilt to haul cargo, most of the cargo was specialized B-24 parts built on the west coast that went to the Consolidated plant in Ft.Worth Tx. What she did got a lot of planes into the air faster than could have been managed any other way.
I saw where they built liberty ships in Portland, battleships and planes in Seattle.
The c87 was made famous by "fate is the hunter" by ernest gaann
remembering cod2 big red one mission on ps2 😭
My Dad made 52 missions over Europe in a B 24 D and J models. He would only say he was "Lucky".
The first combat operations of the B24 were by the RAF Coastal Command as submarine hunters.
Seeing the Sinking of the Laconia got you a thumbs up sir. You seem to watch some of the most unknown films out there xD
It's always a fun challenge but I like to expose people to movies they may have never heard of
This plane is basically the B-25 but with 4 engines
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Wow my six grade teacher back In 1967 Mr gress was,a copilot on b24 he told us about a mission he was on were the bombardier had a hung up bomb and he fell out of it thay radio out bombs away and bombardier also all uf us at time loved 12 0cklock high series all b17s of course but he just told us how great b24 was
The Flying Boxcar referred to the C-119 transport, not the B-24.
Seems they shared the nickname but you are right it's more common with the C-119
I still want Spielberg to do an epic movie about the Ploesti raid of 1 Aug 1943. With the new CGI available, it could be awesome. Five MOH awarded for that one mission.
They got rid of the h tail and put a 3 pointed tail on it and it handled a lot better.. Still though pilots had to struggle to control them compared to the B-17. They put newer engines in the later models so they could get up to 23,000 ft.
Good job.
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there is one in victoria australia but they took some parts of the plane
Nice vid
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Yeah I can't think of many well known B-24 movies. B-17 got the limelight thanks to Memphis Belle and Tora Tora Tora.
Very good