Well, atheists seem like the ones who go look for information and answer in the most divers places. So it shouldn't be surprising. But anything that brings people together is a good. ;-)
Yeah I don't want to sound like jackass but...even in superficial ways, Catholicism is so much cooler than Protestantism. xD And the movies about them(us) are generally so much more interesting. It might have something to do with the 2000 years old ecclesiastical history and traditions. (And beautiful art, music and a long list of content. Prot movies lack all of those, especially the content thing. This is why they all go and make it about inner journey of some random dude or dudette struggling with modern world etc etc which becomes quite cheesy and boring sometimes).
That is partly because Protestantism embraces mostly truth hence heavy opposition from fallen cosmic beings and Christan haters which influences lower budgets, etc.
That is partly because Protestantism embraces mostly truth hence heavy opposition from fallen cosmic beings and Christan haters which influences lower budgets, etc.
This is probably the first time I actually wanted to watch the whole discussion multiple times (Though that probably has a lot to do with the fact that I am Catholic and that I watched The Hollywood Reporter 2017 round-table discussions for actors and producers as they talked about Silence which by the way is the most mature and fun thing to hear from Andrew Garfield).
You guys made me feel ancient when talking about 'The Mission'. I saw that in a theater with full Dolby Sound. When you get The Mission movie, maybe find someone that has 4D with full HD sound to view. I don't recommend viewing on a tablet or 720 TV. That would be like running a formula 1 race car on a tin lizzy track.
OMG!!! You guys have me excited to see "Silence" after this trailer video!!! So nice to see Joe is psyched for a movie!!! I feel bad for him when he's stressed out over the erroneous bits from Christian movies. Btw, I loved Ned's sweater, so festive and punny!!!
mark luis Actually it's fictional but only Father Ferreira, Rodrigues and Garrpe, and obviously the other characters. The setting and punishments and so forth are real, not that you didnt know that :)
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This is based on a book that is based on a TRUE story. Cristóvão Ferreira (c. 1580-1650) was a Portuguese Jesuit missionary who famously committed apostasy after being tortured in the anti-Christian purges of Japan. Born around 1580, in Torres Vedras, Portugal, Ferreira was sent to Asia, where he was a missionary in Japan from 1609 to 1633, becoming the head Jesuit under the oppression of the Tokugawa shogunate. In 1633, Ferreira was captured and renounced Christianity after being tortured for five hours. He became the most famous of the "fallen priests" and changed his name to Sawano Chūan (Japanese: 沢野忠庵). He registered at a Buddhist temple in accordance with Japanese law, and called himself "a member of the Zen sect", but his own publications attest that he adopted a philosophy of natural law. He died in Nagasaki in 1650.[3] Just before his death he supposedly recanted, was tortured and died as a martyr. Wikipedia. The Crossfixes you see in the water was a way of torture. They would set them up in low tide, but in high tide they would not drown. Instead they were left for days and their skin just peeled off, skinned alive. Unthinkable way of torture.
Also, "The Mission" is a really great film that the rest of you who haven't seen it will like. It's one of my favorites. Very well done, also can't beat the acting from Robert DeNiro and Jeremy Irons either. And if you ever get a chance "For Greater Glory" is a pretty good film with some surprisingly notable actors like Andy Garcia, Eva Longoria, and Peter O'Toole. It's about the Cristada (Cristero War) in Mexico during the 1920s when the government persecuted the Church. You also get a glimpse of the portrayal of a newly canonized saint, St. Jose Sanchez del Rio who was martyred at 14 years old. It definitely has that independent feel to it as a film, but it really is a pretty good film for the story alone.
Any chance y'all be looking at Hacksaw Ridge? It hit theaters the first week of November, it's a War/Faith film starring Andrew Garfield and directed by Mel Gibson (The Passion of the Christ). I would say that this is a Christian movie done right and Martin Scorsese's Silence seems to be going in that direction.
AWESOME! Thank you so much for watching and discussing the trailer! It was really great to hear your thoughts on it too! I'm completely on the same page, I'm really excited to check this movie out! Looking forward to the your movie review of it! Thanks again and God Bless you all!
You guys should check the book, its based on the missionaries of my country (Portugal) that went to Japan. It's gritty, kinda grim, but extremely emotional and deep.
Yes he lost a lot of weight for the role. Almost 50lbs in fact. He mentioned that in an interview. In the book, the jesuits and their fellow sailors encountered many problems while on their way to China from Portugal like shortage of food supplies.
Don't worry guys Scorsese isn't going to mess this up this has been his passion project for 28 years,from the subject of forgivness in his film Mean Streets to hope in Taxi Driver and humility and trust in the film the film Raging Bull a devout Catholic director like Martin Scorsese( www.relevantmagazine.com/culture/film/features/20579-the-twisty-spirituality-of-martin-scorcese#comments )is going to make Silence his masterwork.
Here's what you need to do before you see Silence...watch The Mission, which you mentioned, and Black Robe - a Canadian film you've probably never heard of. Both films are about Jesuit missionaries amoung the savages. Both films are beautiful and deeply intense explorations of faith and leave you wondering who the real savages are. Seems like Silence falls into this cinematic tradition. Check them out.
Mary's Land is about the unapproved alleged apparition of Medjugorge. Catholics should not be exposed to materials which take for granted the veracity of these alleged apparitions.
Robert Earl yes indeed Mary's Land is about the Medjugorje apparitions, but at the end they say that they are yet to be approved by the Vatican, even though that's not why I would like a review on the movie, it is because of the stories of conversion of the people in the movie. But yeah, Medjugorje is yet to be approved so I wouldn't like a fellow Catholic to believe otherwise, my apologies for the confusion.
Timothy Rex Mary's Land, besides the Medjugorje apparitions, is also about all these people who open their hearts to God because of the intercession of the Blessed Virgin Mary.
Just one minor correction: at around 8:35 you said that Andrew Garfield's character goes to "Imperial Japan" when the word you should have used was "Feudal Japan." I know this sounds petty, but I believe it's important. During the 1600s, when this film takes place, Japan was a feudal society ruled by a military government that closed its borders and cut off its people from all contact with the outside world. That's why Christianity was outlawed. Japan didn't give way to westerm imperialism until the late 1860s when the military government (called the 'Shoganate') was abolished and the Emporor was put back in power. Sorry if I'm sounding picky, just trying to help! Great review otherwise! I'm stoked on this movie too and I really enjoyed hearing all your thoughts on it.
When i talked about St.Rene I thought of him to be a north american martyr. Now watching this video i see that david said South America. Lol wrong missionary my bad!
Before becoming a phenomenal director, Martin Scorsese was in the semenary to become a Catholic priest. He decided it wasn't his calling, but he always wanted to tell a story like this.
This movie looks really good and I was intending to go see it until I saw Liam Neeson in it. I was a big fan of Liam Neeson (or Aslan) until he lent his voice to a video by Amnesty Ireland where he called for legalisation of abortion in Ireland. We knew we'd come up against liberal celebs in Ireland in this battle but it broke so many of our hearts when Liam Neeson joined the fight to bring abortion to Ireland. I just can't support any film of his now after this. I hope you guys at NCG can appreciate this, I just thought you ought to know who this man really is.
understand you probably won't watch it but do you think another Scorsese film, thinking of one in particular, might be relevant to this discussion? also understand if you just want to delete/ignore this and I don't mean to offend (even if I don't share all your beliefs) but that would be an interesting review...
Could you discuss the trailer for LASERPOPE next? Not that its very good, but i would love to se the anguish on joe and neds faces and the unevitable 50 minute rant on heresy.
I think it would be really cool if you guys could do a review of the movie "Colonia". It came out a few years ago, but it's a true story about Christian extremism, and it would be great to see your analysis of it.
YES! PLEASE make a THE MISSION REVIEW. Also, have you guys seen the Vision movie based on saint Hildegard von Bingen life? She was a great music composer. Please please talk about it.
Another great film to look at would be Black Robe. About the Catholic influence on Aboriginals in Canada. An awesome film. Came out in 1993 I believe. Check it out at IMDB Cheers
‘Silence’ is Scorsese at his worst: Still, when you’re making a Christian epic and the best thing about it is the guy playing the inquisitor, you have a serious problem. As it stands, “Silence” feels like a film about two rival forms of primitive dogmatism, in which neither side quite realizes that they both might be wrong. The film doesn’t seem remotely mystical, but earthbound. The whole movie is reminiscent of the prayer that the King utters in “Hamlet,” which never takes wing but stays leaden on the ground.
I'm curious to see you guys watch the trailer for "Seklusyon." It's a horror movie entry for the MMFF (Metro Manila Film Festival) in the Philippines about deacons who are a week away from priesthood. It would be cool to hear your thoughts in it.
Hey Guys!! Love your reviews. Please let us know what you think of the actual movie or the book. Marty S. the director has been known to make controversial spiritual movies "The Last Temptation of Christ" is an example of a critically praised movie that is considered morally offensive by the Church. He directed that one and in directing this one he's trying hard to get back on Church's good side. One thing the trailer does not showcase as much as it should is that (spoiler for the novel but not really as its mentioned on most Catholic or Christian review sites) Silence is a novel that is about Apostasy and Denouncing the Faith. I admire the acting and the quality of the trailer as it completely sold me on the film (I have a great devotion to martyers and missionary saints) then after reading a little bit more into it, I'm skeptical since its Marty S dealing with spirtuality and Catholic faith again and it deals with Apostasy. I still will probably see it to review it and I look forward to y'alls review on book and/or film. Just wondering what yall might think of the controversy...
This was a very important moment in Japanese history. Till this day, Christianity is barely 1% to 2% of the entire population. Had Japan converted into Christianity, we would have ended up like the Philippines, the most Christian country in Asia and also the most dangerous, primitive, crime-ridden, high teen pregnancy rate country in Asia. Or we would have ended up like any Central or South American country, which are all 98% Catholic and also all 3rd world countries with high crime rates or Rwanda, the most Catholic country in Africa and we all know what happened there. Or we could have ended up like Germany, an advanced Catholic country, but also started two world wars and responsible for killing over 70 million people, much more than Japan killed in WWII. I hate communist, but I’m grateful the atheist Soviets put a stop the Hitler’s Catholic Germany, pissed on his ashes and killed over 4 million German soldiers compared to America and England who combined barely killed 750,000 German soldiers.
I am just disappointed this discussion is in reaction to the trailer for Silence, and not the movie itself. I would rather them have waited until they had seen the film, so the discussion would not be on a mere first impression. There is a LOT to reflect on and discuss after watching the movie, and I was hoping to hear some Catholic commentary on the way the movie plays out.
We made this video a few months ago because people asked us to review the trailer when it first came out. I agree that there is a lot to reflect on and discuss about the movie. We saw it a few days ago and our full review of the movie is currently being edited and will be up in a day or two -David
I thought this film was excellent, but sadly the story is about how two men who renounced their faith publicly. As a result Christianity failed to take hold in Japan. In a country of honor, loyalty, and an honorable death these men failed. It is heavily rooted in some of the false teaching of Catholicism. For those that are mature in the faith and know the Bible I recommend it. It really begs the question of real persecution and how little many of us have experienced it here in America. It is though provoking and raises inter personal questions. However, I think this film is subtly mocking the church.
Really excited for this film too! I found out about this film when I came across this article (aleteia.org/2016/12/02/silence-actors-made-silent-retreat-to-prepare-for-scorsese-film/#sthash.MBPuuI5o.dpuf). Just thought of sharing it ☺️ can't wait for your review on this film !!!!
You should really see Scorsese's The last temptation of Christ and think for yourselves. It is in a way a christian movie about man wanting to reach God and live a life of sanctity but having his earthly nature tempting him on the opposite direction. Jesus is there for showing an ideal towards one follow. It's all there that message, but the tricky thing, and the artfulness of it, is because it's in the subtext, people need to be clever and read it right - it's much easier to just dismiss it for the surface portrays Jesus having mundane actions. Again It's not about Jesus but about man trying to do good while struggling with his own sinful nature. Go watch it. It's a masterpiece, beautifully made, of of the director's best. (an for the record, I'm christian.)
New Catholic Generation I did a Young Adult movie Night/Commentary on The Mission I will suggest the same material that I reviewed when doing the lecture part on race relations / diginity of workers the two encyclicals against slavery in 1450s and 1540s USCCBs link on diginity of workers
I am more than a little concerned about Martin Scorsese's past history with the Last Temptation of Christ, a truly blasphemous film, as well as the source material. In the ending of "Silence" the novel (SPOILER WARNING), the priest commits blasphemy/apostasy in order to prevent his people from suffering. It seems to me that this is the antithesis of what the Church teaches regarding martyrdom and holding fast to the Faith of our Fathers, even unto torture and death. It seems to me that this ending espouses an "end justifies the means" philosophy in contradiction to Church teaching and should not be acceptable to faithful Catholics without showing some real negative consequences to the priest's choice.
And now these three remain: Faith, hope, love. But the greatest of these is love. I Corinthians 13:13 Anything done out of love is from God for God is love. SPOILERS If the main character's decision to denounce saves others from brutality then it is good. God is still God if he denounces his faith, nothing's going to change. Christianity is about action. It's about living a life loving others even when it is difficult. It's not just saying the right words. In the end that is superficial. Just my two cents. God bless.
If you told a Jew that eating pork would save his brothers and mother from torture, what do you think would the answer be? Hint: 2 Maccabees 7 If you told a Christian in Ancient Rome that just a little incense offered to the Emperor would appease him and you could have your life, what do you think his answer would be? If you told St. Thomas More that he could just sign the damnable paper and be done with it, let Henry have his way, what do you think the answer is? If you told the Little Sisters of the Poor to just let Obama have his abortifacients and contraception coverage, what matter is it to them, anyway, how do you think they might regard you?
The problem is deciding the fate of others for them (especially when it involves torture). If one doesn't have mercy and compassion for those whose fate he or she has control over then they've lost the whole meaning of Christianity- to treat the least of these as if they were Christ himself. 1 Corinthians 13:3 (amp)- If I give all my possessions to feed the poor and I surrender my body to be burned, but do not have love, it does me no good at all.
BooBooChild Perhaps on this Feast of the Holy Innocents, we can meditate on how Sts. Joseph and Mary sinned by not offering their infant to Herod so he would not slaughter all the others! What negligence! Clearly they lost sight of what it was all about.
was born in a lapsed Catholic familie and faith should be a choose and to have faith you dont need church and we see that church is used by people for them to feel beter then and think there beter then other people just for that they go to church
I am sorry Angela Curio, not attempting to be rude, but you are mistaken, that is absolutely incorrect. It was not changed from China to Japan. Not sure where you got that. It is fiction based on historical events that occured in Japan. Absolutely nothing to do with China.
I think it would be really cool if you guys could do a review of the movie "Colonia". It came out a few years ago, but it's a true story about Christian extremism, and it would be great to see your analysis of it.
I'm an atheist and I enjoyed this discussion. Keep up your reviews.
That's so fascinating how this channel can attract more than just Catholics...atheists even! I'm rather impressed :)
Dont Worry Thanks. Don't worry, be happy.
Well, atheists seem like the ones who go look for information and answer in the most divers places. So it shouldn't be surprising. But anything that brings people together is a good. ;-)
Yeah, this channel is awesome :) It balances out my diet of atheist video's, which makes me less likely to become/stay ignorant ^^
Solace u've got the right idea: be wary of ignorance, and never be too sure that you're right or wrong!
DAVID you kept in Ned's squeek at the end oh my goodness i died xD
It’s one of his best films he ever made. As a Christian myself it makes me think about my faith in a way I never had before
I love the history of Christianity in Japan since I read about Francisco Javier and saw the anime Samurai Champloo.
Xavier. With a X. He was Portuguese, not Spanish.
I don't wanna sound mean but... most of the Christian Movies, at least the ones that I heard and watched, that are bad are Protestant...
Yeah I don't want to sound like jackass but...even in superficial ways, Catholicism is so much cooler than Protestantism. xD And the movies about them(us) are generally so much more interesting. It might have something to do with the 2000 years old ecclesiastical history and traditions. (And beautiful art, music and a long list of content. Prot movies lack all of those, especially the content thing. This is why they all go and make it about inner journey of some random dude or dudette struggling with modern world etc etc which becomes quite cheesy and boring sometimes).
A Catholic Turk There should be a clasification between protestant and Catholic movies
That is partly because Protestantism embraces mostly truth hence heavy opposition from fallen cosmic beings and Christan haters which influences lower budgets, etc.
That is partly because Protestantism embraces mostly truth hence heavy opposition from fallen cosmic beings and Christan haters which influences lower budgets, etc.
Well I don't know about that. I quite like that Luther film with Joseph Fiennes for instance and I'm not even religious
I agree that you should watch The Mission. It's really good, and the soundtrack is absolutely stunning
This is probably the first time I actually wanted to watch the whole discussion multiple times (Though that probably has a lot to do with the fact that I am Catholic and that I watched The Hollywood Reporter 2017 round-table discussions for actors and producers as they talked about Silence which by the way is the most mature and fun thing to hear from Andrew Garfield).
Renee is so stunning aye!
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Now we'll never know what you edited out of your comment.
I can see the original comment. Actually all he did was fix a typo haha
New Catholic Generation
Lol.
"Renée is very hot."
(edit) "very pretty."
(edit) "very cute."
.... (edit X10) "Nice trailer review guys!"
[they'll totally never notice my edits]
Every time you lie Jesus bleeds!
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You guys made me feel ancient when talking about 'The Mission'. I saw that in a theater with full Dolby Sound. When you get The Mission movie, maybe find someone that has 4D with full HD sound to view. I don't recommend viewing on a tablet or 720 TV. That would be like running a formula 1 race car on a tin lizzy track.
OMG!!! You guys have me excited to see "Silence" after this trailer video!!! So nice to see Joe is psyched for a movie!!! I feel bad for him when he's stressed out over the erroneous bits from Christian movies. Btw, I loved Ned's sweater, so festive and punny!!!
the movie is about Portuguese Jesuits priest who went to Japan. base on true events. and it's also a book by a Japanese author.
mark luis Actually it's fictional but only Father Ferreira, Rodrigues and Garrpe, and obviously the other characters. The setting and punishments and so forth are real, not that you didnt know that :)
This is based on a book that is based on a TRUE story.
Cristóvão Ferreira (c. 1580-1650) was a Portuguese Jesuit missionary who famously committed apostasy after being tortured in the anti-Christian purges of Japan. Born around 1580, in Torres Vedras, Portugal, Ferreira was sent to Asia, where he was a missionary in Japan from 1609 to 1633, becoming the head Jesuit under the oppression of the Tokugawa shogunate. In 1633, Ferreira was captured and renounced Christianity after being tortured for five hours. He became the most famous of the "fallen priests" and changed his name to Sawano Chūan (Japanese: 沢野忠庵). He registered at a Buddhist temple in accordance with Japanese law, and called himself "a member of the Zen sect", but his own publications attest that he adopted a philosophy of natural law. He died in Nagasaki in 1650.[3] Just before his death he supposedly recanted, was tortured and died as a martyr. Wikipedia.
The Crossfixes you see in the water was a way of torture. They would set them up in low tide, but in high tide they would not drown. Instead they were left for days and their skin just peeled off, skinned alive. Unthinkable way of torture.
Also, "The Mission" is a really great film that the rest of you who haven't seen it will like. It's one of my favorites. Very well done, also can't beat the acting from Robert DeNiro and Jeremy Irons either.
And if you ever get a chance "For Greater Glory" is a pretty good film with some surprisingly notable actors like Andy Garcia, Eva Longoria, and Peter O'Toole. It's about the Cristada (Cristero War) in Mexico during the 1920s when the government persecuted the Church. You also get a glimpse of the portrayal of a newly canonized saint, St. Jose Sanchez del Rio who was martyred at 14 years old. It definitely has that independent feel to it as a film, but it really is a pretty good film for the story alone.
Speaking about martyrs and films, a movie about bl. Anthony Neyrot would be gold.
I know it isn't Catholic or Christian but it would be really fun to see you guys discuss the Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 trailer!!!
Any chance y'all be looking at Hacksaw Ridge? It hit theaters the first week of November, it's a War/Faith film starring Andrew Garfield and directed by Mel Gibson (The Passion of the Christ). I would say that this is a Christian movie done right and Martin Scorsese's Silence seems to be going in that direction.
"Donna Noble has been saved."
Hello fellow Whovian.
JP Kloess no offence to doctor who I'm a fan but what does it have to do with this trailer and discussion
Todd Johnson "Silence" in the Library.
Finally a movie about our first mexican martir saint, San Felipe de Jesús!! Can't wait to watch it :)
Persephone A It's not about him.
AWESOME! Thank you so much for watching and discussing the trailer! It was really great to hear your thoughts on it too! I'm completely on the same page, I'm really excited to check this movie out! Looking forward to the your movie review of it! Thanks again and God Bless you all!
You guys should check the book, its based on the missionaries of my country (Portugal) that went to Japan. It's gritty, kinda grim, but extremely emotional and deep.
Thank you for looking at Silence and looking at the book
Yes he lost a lot of weight for the role. Almost 50lbs in fact. He mentioned that in an interview. In the book, the jesuits and their fellow sailors encountered many problems while on their way to China from Portugal like shortage of food supplies.
Don't worry guys Scorsese isn't going to mess this up this has been his passion project for 28 years,from the subject of forgivness in his film Mean Streets to hope in Taxi Driver and humility and trust in the film the film Raging Bull a devout Catholic director like Martin Scorsese( www.relevantmagazine.com/culture/film/features/20579-the-twisty-spirituality-of-martin-scorcese#comments )is going to make Silence his masterwork.
john blanco I so hope you're right.
Here's what you need to do before you see Silence...watch The Mission, which you mentioned, and Black Robe - a Canadian film you've probably never heard of. Both films are about Jesuit missionaries amoung the savages. Both films are beautiful and deeply intense explorations of faith and leave you wondering who the real savages are. Seems like Silence falls into this cinematic tradition. Check them out.
Read what happened to Jean de Brebuef and his fellow Jesuits.
Please review "For Greater Glory" or "Mary's Land"!!!
I think they only review newer movies.
But yeah, For Greater Glory was awesome.
I've not seen Mary's Land. What was that one about?
Mary's Land is about the unapproved alleged apparition of Medjugorge. Catholics should not be exposed to materials which take for granted the veracity of these alleged apparitions.
Robert Earl yes indeed Mary's Land is about the Medjugorje apparitions, but at the end they say that they are yet to be approved by the Vatican, even though that's not why I would like a review on the movie, it is because of the stories of conversion of the people in the movie.
But yeah, Medjugorje is yet to be approved so I wouldn't like a fellow Catholic to believe otherwise, my apologies for the confusion.
Timothy Rex Mary's Land, besides the Medjugorje apparitions, is also about all these people who open their hearts to God because of the intercession of the Blessed Virgin Mary.
Just one minor correction: at around 8:35 you said that Andrew Garfield's character goes to "Imperial Japan" when the word you should have used was "Feudal Japan." I know this sounds petty, but I believe it's important. During the 1600s, when this film takes place, Japan was a feudal society ruled by a military government that closed its borders and cut off its people from all contact with the outside world. That's why Christianity was outlawed. Japan didn't give way to westerm imperialism until the late 1860s when the military government (called the 'Shoganate') was abolished and the Emporor was put back in power. Sorry if I'm sounding picky, just trying to help!
Great review otherwise! I'm stoked on this movie too and I really enjoyed hearing all your thoughts on it.
I am so early yay I love watching your videos
3:30 does he know it's based off a book? (Written by the greatest Catholic Novelist)
Also doesn’t seem to know Scorsese is a devout Catholic
Yay Joe is excited! LOL I had just heard about this a couple days ago and I was wondering if you guys were going to talk about it. Excited!
This trailer looks awesome. I'm glad you guys are excited for it.
Meowy Christmas everybody! And a happy Franciscan Softball too!
Did anyone else think that this was a trailer for a St. Francis Xavier movie at first?
It definitely was my first thought. The Jesuits, Japan, and of course his feast day was yesterday.
great book, for christians and secularists alike
When i talked about St.Rene I thought of him to be a north american martyr. Now watching this video i see that david said South America. Lol wrong missionary my bad!
Rene Decartes
Have you watched "Of gods and men"?
Spider-Man, Quagon Jin Head, and Kylo Ren out to spread Catholicism I love it.
Before becoming a phenomenal director, Martin Scorsese was in the semenary to become a Catholic priest. He decided it wasn't his calling, but he always wanted to tell a story like this.
When is the review of I'm not ashamed going to be up
Victoria naas hopefully within a few days, we're filming it this evening :)
Have you seen Robert Barron's review of it?
Read the book by the great Japanese Catholic author Shusaku Endo
This movie looks really good and I was intending to go see it until I saw Liam Neeson in it. I was a big fan of Liam Neeson (or Aslan) until he lent his voice to a video by Amnesty Ireland where he called for legalisation of abortion in Ireland. We knew we'd come up against liberal celebs in Ireland in this battle but it broke so many of our hearts when Liam Neeson joined the fight to bring abortion to Ireland. I just can't support any film of his now after this. I hope you guys at NCG can appreciate this, I just thought you ought to know who this man really is.
I remember seeing The Mission in CCD.
understand you probably won't watch it but do you think another Scorsese film, thinking of one in particular, might be relevant to this discussion? also understand if you just want to delete/ignore this and I don't mean to offend (even if I don't share all your beliefs) but that would be an interesting review...
Could you discuss the trailer for LASERPOPE next? Not that its very good, but i would love to se the anguish on joe and neds faces and the unevitable 50 minute rant on heresy.
I think it would be really cool if you guys could do a review of the movie "Colonia". It came out a few years ago, but it's a true story about Christian extremism, and it would be great to see your analysis of it.
YES! PLEASE make a THE MISSION REVIEW. Also, have you guys seen the Vision movie based on saint Hildegard von Bingen life? She was a great music composer. Please please talk about it.
1. Good discussion
2. Renee: what no puns?
3. Dare we hope for a Scorsese movie without excessive domestic violence, excessive nudity, and drug use?
I shushed everyone so we could review the Silence trailer. Then when Ned mentioned resurrection of gavin stone i said "no.. Silence Ned."
Could you review the Trailer for 'The Shack'.
It's also based on the book by Shusaku Endo of the same title.
You should do a response to "case for Christ" movie trailer that's coming out in spring 2017 by pure flix
you guys should review the movie Spotlight
Great review. I really want to see that movie. Have you guys ever considered doing a review for Hacksaw Ridge?
All of you must see The Mission...
Another great film to look at would be Black Robe. About the Catholic influence on Aboriginals in Canada. An awesome film. Came out in 1993 I believe. Check it out at IMDB
Cheers
this movie is gonna be awesome.even tho i'm ex christian now atheist. but yeah cool trailer and let's just hope that movie is gonna be too.
Tilen Stupar I think it will be good for both theists and athiests. :) I am reading the book now.
+Serufei 92 honestly I think I kind of have this feeling it will help convert many atheist to Christianity/Catholicism but that could just be me
I saw this trailer a couple of days ago and I was so impressed!
‘Silence’ is Scorsese at his worst: Still, when you’re making a Christian epic and the best thing about it is the guy playing the inquisitor, you have a serious problem. As it stands, “Silence” feels like a film about two rival forms of primitive dogmatism, in which neither side quite realizes that they both might be wrong. The film doesn’t seem remotely mystical, but earthbound. The whole movie is reminiscent of the prayer that the King utters in “Hamlet,” which never takes wing but stays leaden on the ground.
There's no *the in the title...
I'm curious to see you guys watch the trailer for "Seklusyon." It's a horror movie entry for the MMFF (Metro Manila Film Festival) in the Philippines about deacons who are a week away from priesthood. It would be cool to hear your thoughts in it.
Really great panel! This movie looks very good; I want to see it. You should watch and review: "the Shoes of the Fisherman."
Was that a Doctor Who reference?
At least Ned can film now 😂
Hey Guys!! Love your reviews. Please let us know what you think of the actual movie or the book.
Marty S. the director has been known to make controversial spiritual movies "The Last Temptation of Christ" is an example of a critically praised movie that is considered morally offensive by the Church. He directed that one and in directing this one he's trying hard to get back on Church's good side. One thing the trailer does not showcase as much as it should is that (spoiler for the novel but not really as its mentioned on most Catholic or Christian review sites) Silence is a novel that is about Apostasy and Denouncing the Faith. I admire the acting and the quality of the trailer as it completely sold me on the film (I have a great devotion to martyers and missionary saints) then after reading a little bit more into it, I'm skeptical since its Marty S dealing with spirtuality and Catholic faith again and it deals with Apostasy. I still will probably see it to review it and I look forward to y'alls review on book and/or film. Just wondering what yall might think of the controversy...
Will you watch the movie The Mission (1986) and review it?
guys ! im dying for your real review of this movie!
Our review of silence is now up! th-cam.com/video/dXfMqG6d_yo/w-d-xo.html
Please Do a review of "Ignacio de Loyola" it's a really REALLY good Jesuit film
this looks like a great film
This was a very important moment in Japanese history. Till this day, Christianity is barely 1% to 2% of the entire population. Had Japan converted into Christianity, we would have ended up like the Philippines, the most Christian country in Asia and also the most dangerous, primitive, crime-ridden, high teen pregnancy rate country in Asia. Or we would have ended up like any Central or South American country, which are all 98% Catholic and also all 3rd world countries with high crime rates or Rwanda, the most Catholic country in Africa and we all know what happened there. Or we could have ended up like Germany, an advanced Catholic country, but also started two world wars and responsible for killing over 70 million people, much more than Japan killed in WWII. I hate communist, but I’m grateful the atheist Soviets put a stop the Hitler’s Catholic Germany, pissed on his ashes and killed over 4 million German soldiers compared to America and England who combined barely killed 750,000 German soldiers.
really looking forward to the movie, thanks for the review, please review "the mission" movie, read the book, love it!
I would suggest you listen first - shut up - before commenting.
hey joe is 2cellos catholic?
In the last review video - "Let's make a movie just so that Joe will like it, a 100% like it". Looks like someone heard you!
I am just disappointed this discussion is in reaction to the trailer for Silence, and not the movie itself. I would rather them have waited until they had seen the film, so the discussion would not be on a mere first impression. There is a LOT to reflect on and discuss after watching the movie, and I was hoping to hear some Catholic commentary on the way the movie plays out.
We made this video a few months ago because people asked us to review the trailer when it first came out. I agree that there is a lot to reflect on and discuss about the movie. We saw it a few days ago and our full review of the movie is currently being edited and will be up in a day or two -David
The review is now up! th-cam.com/video/dXfMqG6d_yo/w-d-xo.html
Holy guacamole you guys need to react to come Sunday
I can not wait for this movie. it looks so good!!!!! also great review 😃
What I see in this trailer is what Bono challenged Christian artists to do. Show thedarkness as well as the light.
Joe, please, for advent fasting.... Give up pounding or hitting the table.... Silence!
Our review of the film is now up! You can watch it here: th-cam.com/video/dXfMqG6d_yo/w-d-xo.html
I thought this film was excellent, but sadly the story is about how two men who renounced their faith publicly. As a result Christianity failed to take hold in Japan. In a country of honor, loyalty, and an honorable death these men failed. It is heavily rooted in some of the false teaching of Catholicism. For those that are mature in the faith and know the Bible I recommend it. It really begs the question of real persecution and how little many of us have experienced it here in America. It is though provoking and raises inter personal questions. However, I think this film is subtly mocking the church.
Please review the movie "King's Faith"!! :)
check Father Barron 's review.
Really excited for this film too! I found out about this film when I came across this article (aleteia.org/2016/12/02/silence-actors-made-silent-retreat-to-prepare-for-scorsese-film/#sthash.MBPuuI5o.dpuf). Just thought of sharing it ☺️ can't wait for your review on this film !!!!
You should really see Scorsese's The last temptation of Christ and think for yourselves. It is in a way a christian movie about man wanting to reach God and live a life of sanctity but having his earthly nature tempting him on the opposite direction. Jesus is there for showing an ideal towards one follow. It's all there that message, but the tricky thing, and the artfulness of it, is because it's in the subtext, people need to be clever and read it right - it's much easier to just dismiss it for the surface portrays Jesus having mundane actions. Again It's not about Jesus but about man trying to do good while struggling with his own sinful nature. Go watch it. It's a masterpiece, beautifully made, of of the director's best. (an for the record, I'm christian.)
Much because it has a Catholic story involved...
New Catholic Generation
I did a Young Adult movie Night/Commentary on The Mission
I will suggest the same material that I reviewed when doing the lecture part on race relations / diginity of workers
the two encyclicals against slavery in 1450s and 1540s
USCCBs link on diginity of workers
I am more than a little concerned about Martin Scorsese's past history with the Last Temptation of Christ, a truly blasphemous film, as well as the source material. In the ending of "Silence" the novel (SPOILER WARNING), the priest commits blasphemy/apostasy in order to prevent his people from suffering. It seems to me that this is the antithesis of what the Church teaches regarding martyrdom and holding fast to the Faith of our Fathers, even unto torture and death. It seems to me that this ending espouses an "end justifies the means" philosophy in contradiction to Church teaching and should not be acceptable to faithful Catholics without showing some real negative consequences to the priest's choice.
And now these three remain: Faith, hope, love. But the greatest of these is love. I Corinthians 13:13
Anything done out of love is from God for God is love. SPOILERS If the main character's decision to denounce saves others from brutality then it is good. God is still God if he denounces his faith, nothing's going to change. Christianity is about action. It's about living a life loving others even when it is difficult. It's not just saying the right words. In the end that is superficial. Just my two cents. God bless.
If you told a Jew that eating pork would save his brothers and mother from torture, what do you think would the answer be? Hint: 2 Maccabees 7
If you told a Christian in Ancient Rome that just a little incense offered to the Emperor would appease him and you could have your life, what do you think his answer would be?
If you told St. Thomas More that he could just sign the damnable paper and be done with it, let Henry have his way, what do you think the answer is?
If you told the Little Sisters of the Poor to just let Obama have his abortifacients and contraception coverage, what matter is it to them, anyway, how do you think they might regard you?
The problem is deciding the fate of others for them (especially when it involves torture). If one doesn't have mercy and compassion for those whose fate he or she has control over then they've lost the whole meaning of Christianity- to treat the least of these as if they were Christ himself.
1 Corinthians 13:3 (amp)- If I give all my possessions to feed the poor and I surrender my body to be burned, but do not have love, it does me no good at all.
BooBooChild Oh, so the martyrs are actually the apostates? The Bible glorifies and promotes sin? I see.
BooBooChild Perhaps on this Feast of the Holy Innocents, we can meditate on how Sts. Joseph and Mary sinned by not offering their infant to Herod so he would not slaughter all the others! What negligence! Clearly they lost sight of what it was all about.
Guys, what do you think about Dr. William Lane Craig?
Thanks!
God bless! Our Holy Mother pray for you!
Amen.
was born in a lapsed Catholic familie and faith should be a choose and to have faith you dont need church and we see that church is used by people for them to feel beter then and think there beter then other people just for that they go to church
Downvoted. Even your resident film person says he doesn't think Scorsese was revolutionary!? NOOBS!
Is this based on a true story, or is it purely fictional?
Timothy Rex it's based on a book which is based on a true story
the main character Sebastiao Rodrigues is based on an Italian Jesuit missionary named Giuseppe Chiara.
Inspired by a true story. Endo changed the location from China to Japan. It's definitely fiction, but you could say he reflected on real events.
Angela Curio yea
I am sorry Angela Curio, not attempting to be rude, but you are mistaken, that is absolutely incorrect. It was not changed from China to Japan. Not sure where you got that. It is fiction based on historical events that occured in Japan. Absolutely nothing to do with China.
Fast forward to Joe's heartbreak regarding silence
JESUS CHRIST WILL SET YOU FREE FROM THIS RELIGION REPENT AND ACCEPT HIM INTO YOUR HEART AND YOU WILL BE SAVED!!!
I think it would be really cool if you guys could do a review of the movie "Colonia". It came out a few years ago, but it's a true story about Christian extremism, and it would be great to see your analysis of it.