@David Parry and heaps of manure, the bouquet o'live-stock (dead-stock is called meat!), Sickness vomitus, no sanitation guidance/effort for a camp of millions...ahh the glory, to be chosen...sing ye priest, dance ye naked princes (Emperor's No clothes?)...
in defence of the caller, they do not really listen to him either. I agree he is creating a set of conditions for his own concept of god to fit neatly into, but the hosts continually obstruct him. By all means pick holes in his argument, but surely, to do that, you need to listen to his argument first. All of it, in one go without constant interruption.
My mind has become numb from listening to this guy. My hat's off to the hosts for being able to listen to this stuff week after week and attempt to engage, as best as possible, in adult, reasonable discourse.
Its so bad that if I was the host I would start to feel dumb myself for not being able to answer or explain his nonsene. I'm glad they're able to read between the lines.
@Almighty Jesus [whatever] - you haven't yet demonstrated this god of yours exists. Your assertion is meaningless. You , sir, are a pawn of your delusion.
OMG someone finally done it a truthful verifiable definition for God. Congratulations man well done I think you should get this year's Nobel prize. now we need to spread the good word
@Almighty Jesus wtf where you doing that you made your guilt (aka conscience aka god) flare up several times a day? Are you one of those Christians that need God to not be immoral monsters?
You got that partially right. Man created invisible magical daddy-friends, also called gods, in his image. That is why these gods behave exactly like the primitive people who invented them. That is why the bible god for example likes ass kissing, is pro slavery, enjoys killing and even mass murder, behaves like a bully and a tyrant etc.etc. In short he is a a primitive, uneducated, uncivilized, tyrannical dick. That apparently was the best primitive men in the middle east could come up with.
@Never-ending party "I have no fear. No Christian has fear" Haha you gotta be kidding! They're the most pathetically petrified people out there, scared of everything, I mean c' mon, those sad sacks can't even get through life without having their hand held by some invisible sky fairy God (From whose magic buttocks sprang forth all life, the universe and everything)(Seriously, everything, fully formed and farted out of God's magic buttocks, that's their answer to science pmsl). "No christian has fear" … Not when God's given his shaky little hand a soothing squeeze, eh... Why do you need a God, is life that scary you can't get through it on your own, what's wrong with you? I would feel utterly ashamed if I had to admit I needed some fairy sky God holding my hand. I've got too much dignity to be a christian, I'd feel embarrassed, a bit of a failure if I were. So which one of the Christianities have you gone with then? Are you catholic, or one of the mental ones?
A prime example of how when your logical thinking skills are weak, you tend to start with weak thoughts that only get worse as you add more to the thoughts.
Vi is my hero! "How many feet does god have?" This one question illustrates the problem with believers picking and choosing which attributes of reality must reflect the supposed creator of that reality, while ignoring the attributes that they dont like. The path of questions that she takes him down around the 10 min mark was beautifully done. These are the kind of conversations and videos I love to see and hear
Jubal Yang, of course a hero can be a woman, they can be any gender. Being heroic isnt about who or what you are, it's about what you do and how you do it
Eric Sir , I command you for your patience with this caller. You are a very collected individual and that is very rare these days. I appreciate it and find very refreshing. Thank you for lesson in patience and listening.
God whisperers like Joel try to babble their invisible magical friend into existence with utter nonsense. These people are a waste of time and energy, mostly to themselves.
@@megamus3 Joel might very well be a nice and respectable guy, but his religious ideology is beyond ridiculous. I have no respect whatsoever for these kind of religious ideas. I was a christian once myself, 35 years ago, and know from experience how weird in the head theists can get. It reeks of desperation if the only thing you can do to save your invisible fantasy friend from oblivion, is to equate him with everything that is real. In fact you dilute your god in a sea of reality and the poor thing becomes completely meaningless. Not dissimilar to how homeopathy dissolves any working ingredient in a sea of water.
@@megamus3 We don't have to imagine it. The USSR, China, sex slave industry, don't respect people either. And of course the millions of unborn children slaughtered by those that don't respect them. Hey, if you're looking forward to persecuting Christians, you are well on your way. Yawn.
@@correctchristian4255 Christianity demonstrates the inherent needyness and gullibility of humans. Good and bad (appropriate social behaviour) have many influencing factors, including religion induced lack of rational perspective.Your user name does not inspire confidence
Love the show!!! Being an atheist in the "bible belt of Michigan" is rough. With Talk Heathen and others I'm finally comfortable talking about not believing (to be clear as far back as I remember I never believed). I finally welcome the conversations and disproving popular stereotypes. Thank you to your whole crew!
Parts of Michigan have become the Quran belt apparently. Before the age of the internet I had no idea how vilified atheists are by so many because religion just wasn't a topic of conversation with most of the people I knew, including my parents (who, by the way, were the kindest, most honest people one could meet).
Never-ending party Atheism doesn’t pretend to have answers. Atheism asks only one question: for theists to prove their god exists. It’s people like you who have no answers.
@Never-ending party "After debating and defeating all atheists for almost 50 years, I'm the expert here" You don't even know what atheism means, and have probably only debated atheists for 50 days, at most. Get down from your strawman.
Ahh, a "deepity" is something that sounds profound, but actually means nothing. I've finally found the perfect word to describe Noel Gallagher's lyrics.
Lmao holy shit, that's perfect. I was singing Champagne Supernova while walking into the house the other day and got to "slowly walking down the hall, faster than a cannonball" before I literally stopped and said "wait...wtf?!"
Thanks for the word deepity. I looked it up. A deepity isn’t just any old pseudo-profound bit of drivel. It’s a specific kind of statement that can be read in two different ways: one way that’s true but trivial, and another that’s much more intriguing but false. Coined by the philosopher Daniel Dennet
I would argue that sadness is more of a destroyer than reality is of a creator... Damn, that sooo deep. I think Eric is really onto something with that. We've got the beginnings of a solid cult right there. 😆
@@mojobag01 true but then not really. You haven't just made up the fact of this bird, it's been proven as existing. I could on the otherhand say that there is no proof that a qgichheck exists it's just a word or concept that you've or someone made up out of imagination. The same can be said of a god. There is no real, reliable or testable evidence that it exists except from some ancient book that has not been updated or proven, except by people's faith that it is true, in part because they want it to be true. But the book itself is proof that an all powerful god cannot exist because if it was the word of God then it would be clear and persuasive, persuading anyone who read it of this god's existence. But, it is not universally persuasive at all, indeed it is losing ground in places that have not been indoctrinated and where critical thinking is encouraged.
@@SqwarkParrotSpittingFeathers So the attributes of an ephemeral item are merely borrowed from a more concrete object or abstract. Yep, I think we worked this one out between us. Thor help the apologists though :)
@@joulian The human mind likes everything to have a beginning and ending, boundaries; and also something before then, after, outside. The contradiction isn't reality or god, just us and our mental limits. We always want to know the farthest edge, but then to know what's past it, and then... turtles all the way down.
The answer to how many feet God has? 42. I spoke with a flat-earther today. His argument was that water (oceans) can't be curved because they use water in bubble levels. You can't argue with that.
it is always amazing listening to biblical believers be so knowledgeable about their god, 'his' properties and 'will' ! this one bases his god on platonic objects !! ... and also has deep cosmological understanding of the universe including the big bang !!!
Joel's god is the absolute winner of hide-and-seek. I'm reasonably sure we'll never find him based on his dense definition. Now, where did I put that jar of 'sadness'?
in reality scientists go out and observe what really happens to things and what properties these things have, they don’t define reality as God and than go around looking for something that “fits the bill” or even better just invent a bold ass statement, God is the first!
We have a concept of the "universe", which is a very handy concept. However it leads to confusion and lots of silly ideas. The "universe" is no more a thing than "life" or "love" or "consciousness" or "story" or "afternoon". "Reality" is another handy concept which also causes confusion and lots of silly ideas.
Dont believe “Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many. Do not believe in anything simply because it is found written in your religious books. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders. Do not believe in traditions because they have been handed down for many generations. But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it.” Buddha quotes (Hindu Prince Gautama Siddharta, the founder of Buddhism, 563-483 B.C.)
All hail Emperor Palpatine who can't be evil because we simply can't understand his grand plan! Me: Aren't we cursed to burn in hell because we have knowledge of good and evil? Isn't that evil? (Echo) Evil... Evil... Evil...
Don't you have to discover the properties of a god, not just make them up ? We didn't make up the properties of Venus, then go looking for a planet that matches those properties. We examined Venus, then listed all the surprising properties that we found. The proposed god is it is not available for examination.
Thanks Mr. Murphy... cognitive/verbal creation's remain narratives until such are evident (verified truth) in universe. Menus are not meals, pictures aren't the OBJECT pictured. A DISCRIPTION OF AN OBJECT IS NOT THE OBJECT.
“Reality is the creator.” Let’s apply synonyms… Existence is the architect / Matter is the author. We get Kanye West lyrics. I’m not sure if Joel would agree or this would disprove his argument… If we went to a parallel universe and found quantum mechanics were different, the people of that universe would be experiencing a different ‘reality’. Is that two Gods?
Time is like temperature. The lowest possible temperature is Absolute Zero at which all particle movement ceases. A temperature lower than absolute Zero would imply that particles can move slower than being at rest, which is just nonsensical. The beginning of time is when all particles begin to move for 'The first Time'. It is not possible for particles to move before that because that would simply be moving the beginning of time backward, another nonsensical notion.
How does this dude know god is gender neutral? It never ceases to amaze me how arrogant believers are in that they assume to know all these properties about their god.
@Never-ending party Care to provide proof that Adam lived 930 years? Yeah, yeah, yeah, it says it in your book of fairy tales... Any actual proof? And your whole Rolls Royce analogy is totally stupid...
@Never-ending party Are you stating that your god is a poor designer that couldn't "create' a human without errors that form these "defects". How many more years before these "defects" make it impossible for humans to procreate?
God has 1 foot that is 3 individual feet but still all part of the 1 foot. You'd think God would help these people out wouldn't you, they're trying to explain the unexplainable and God isn't helping one iota
Taking 'figurative expressions' with literal meaning is a sign of schizophrenia. I have an hypothesis that Religious belief an schizophrenia are related in an aspect of the functioning of the human brain.
This guy just poved that his god can not possibly exist and that his god could not have possibly created the universe. But, he still believes in his god.
One of those callers that keeps saying 'I understand' when they mean 'If you've finished your point I'd like to ignore it and continue my script'.
Or I don't care about your B.S. (belief system) I have a sure- ness!
I was going to say pretty much exactly the same thing, but I’ll just “like” your comment instead.
@David Parry and heaps of manure, the bouquet o'live-stock (dead-stock is called meat!), Sickness vomitus, no sanitation guidance/effort for a camp of millions...ahh the glory, to be chosen...sing ye priest, dance ye naked princes (Emperor's No clothes?)...
So...a theist then?
in defence of the caller, they do not really listen to him either. I agree he is creating a set of conditions for his own concept of god to fit neatly into, but the hosts continually obstruct him. By all means pick holes in his argument, but surely, to do that, you need to listen to his argument first. All of it, in one go without constant interruption.
“You cannot have before time”
Joel : Okay
“Now did something ever exist before time?”
Joel : Yes
That shit was hilarious 😂
Never-ending party Shh 🤫
Never-ending party Look at me. Stop typing out your script. I do not care. 🤫
So, WHICH god is it, and why not more than one? From a prior universe?
The laughing in the background made it
My mind has become numb from listening to this guy. My hat's off to the hosts for being able to listen to this stuff week after week and attempt to engage, as best as possible, in adult, reasonable discourse.
Its so bad that if I was the host I would start to feel dumb myself for not being able to answer or explain his nonsene. I'm glad they're able to read between the lines.
It was so tedious. I only managed to watch 10 minutes of it.
Jeff T But you still watch children’s hour. Bless your cotton socks
I was just thinking wow these people have the patience of saints.
"Let's define God's properties: It has no properties."
OK, Joel, that's all you needed to say. You have nothing. Try again.
@Almighty Jesus "An atheist is just as much a pawn to God as His chosen."
Or not.
@Almighty Jesus Like most of your fellow mythologists you're making claims, provide testable evidence to support those claims or go away.
@Almighty Jesus [whatever] - you haven't yet demonstrated this god of yours exists. Your assertion is meaningless. You , sir, are a pawn of your delusion.
OMG someone finally done it a truthful verifiable definition for God. Congratulations man well done I think you should get this year's Nobel prize. now we need to spread the good word
@Almighty Jesus wtf where you doing that you made your guilt (aka conscience aka god) flare up several times a day?
Are you one of those Christians that need God to not be immoral monsters?
In the beginning, Man created god in his own image. Since then, man's been trying to hide that fact.
You got that partially right. Man created invisible magical daddy-friends, also called gods, in his image. That is why these gods behave exactly like the primitive people who invented them. That is why the bible god for example likes ass kissing, is pro slavery, enjoys killing and even mass murder, behaves like a bully and a tyrant etc.etc. In short he is a a primitive, uneducated, uncivilized, tyrannical dick. That apparently was the best primitive men in the middle east could come up with.
Incorrect
Man created God as a way to say thank you for God creating man.
God created man in His own image.
Man thought it prudent to return the compliment.
Fuck'n A
@Never-ending party "I have no fear. No Christian has fear"
Haha you gotta be kidding! They're the most pathetically petrified people out there, scared of everything, I mean c' mon, those sad sacks can't even get through life without having their hand held by some invisible sky fairy God (From whose magic buttocks sprang forth all life, the universe and everything)(Seriously, everything, fully formed and farted out of God's magic buttocks, that's their answer to science pmsl).
"No christian has fear" … Not when God's given his shaky little hand a soothing squeeze, eh...
Why do you need a God, is life that scary you can't get through it on your own, what's wrong with you?
I would feel utterly ashamed if I had to admit I needed some fairy sky God holding my hand. I've got too much dignity to be a christian, I'd feel embarrassed, a bit of a failure if I were.
So which one of the Christianities have you gone with then? Are you catholic, or one of the mental ones?
It was like listening to people trying to reason with a sentient brick wall. Vi and Eric handled it with style.
DarbDash well, Vi tried, but Eric... his shtick w the constant interruption has gotten old.
Right off the bat, he's not listening.
"Hi Joel!"
"Hi I'm Joel."
Whaaaa?
@Tonald Drump oh right! I forgot. Gotta stick to the script!
A prime example of how when your logical thinking skills are weak, you tend to start with weak thoughts that only get worse as you add more to the thoughts.
Vi is my hero! "How many feet does god have?" This one question illustrates the problem with believers picking and choosing which attributes of reality must reflect the supposed creator of that reality, while ignoring the attributes that they dont like. The path of questions that she takes him down around the 10 min mark was beautifully done. These are the kind of conversations and videos I love to see and hear
Jubal Yang, of course a hero can be a woman, they can be any gender.
Being heroic isnt about who or what you are, it's about what you do and how you do it
"Where are they?! Can we call them!?" I almost spit my drink on the screen laughing.
Eric Sir , I command you for your patience with this caller. You are a very collected individual and that is very rare these days. I appreciate it and find very refreshing. Thank you for lesson in patience and listening.
This conversation was among the better one. Vi and Eric are a great team.
I love Eric
He is getting better each time.
I also like how he wrote, "the book of Eric".
Eric, I can't believe you would say that "there can't be a before time." I watched it as a kid. It was called *THE LAND BEFORE TIME.* 😂😂😂
God whisperers like Joel try to babble their invisible magical friend into existence with utter nonsense. These people are a waste of time and energy, mostly to themselves.
So much valuable time is spent pandering to these halfwits, imagine a world were we weren't commanded to respect these people.
@@megamus3 Joel might very well be a nice and respectable guy, but his religious ideology is beyond ridiculous. I have no respect whatsoever for these kind of religious ideas. I was a christian once myself, 35 years ago, and know from experience how weird in the head theists can get. It reeks of desperation if the only thing you can do to save your invisible fantasy friend from oblivion, is to equate him with everything that is real.
In fact you dilute your god in a sea of reality and the poor thing becomes completely meaningless. Not dissimilar to how homeopathy dissolves any working ingredient in a sea of water.
@@megamus3 We don't have to imagine it. The USSR, China, sex slave industry, don't respect people either. And of course the millions of unborn children slaughtered by those that don't respect them. Hey, if you're looking forward to persecuting Christians, you are well on your way. Yawn.
Religious flesh bags have been slowing the train of advancement for far too long!
@@correctchristian4255 Christianity demonstrates the inherent needyness and gullibility of humans. Good and bad (appropriate social behaviour) have many influencing factors, including religion induced lack of rational perspective.Your user name does not inspire confidence
Love the show!!! Being an atheist in the "bible belt of Michigan" is rough. With Talk Heathen and others I'm finally comfortable talking about not believing (to be clear as far back as I remember I never believed). I finally welcome the conversations and disproving popular stereotypes. Thank you to your whole crew!
Parts of Michigan have become the Quran belt apparently.
Before the age of the internet I had no idea how vilified atheists are by so many because religion just wasn't a topic of conversation with most of the people I knew, including my parents (who, by the way, were the kindest, most honest people one could meet).
On an atheist podcast now long defunct...Reasonable Doubts, maybe?...they described their base (Grand Rapids) as "the clasp on America's Bible Bra".
Can we all just agree to remove religion from the simulation? It gives me headaches.
These violent delights have violent ends.
@Never-ending party
Get real, idiot. Your god like all others in history is fucking DEAD.
@Never-ending party Yes you have only one...it's your god. Go and Fys.
Never-ending party Atheism doesn’t pretend to have answers. Atheism asks only one question: for theists to prove their god exists. It’s people like you who have no answers.
@Never-ending party "After debating and defeating all atheists for almost 50 years, I'm the expert here"
You don't even know what atheism means, and have probably only debated atheists for 50 days, at most. Get down from your strawman.
Ahh, a "deepity" is something that sounds profound, but actually means nothing. I've finally found the perfect word to describe Noel Gallagher's lyrics.
Lmao holy shit, that's perfect. I was singing Champagne Supernova while walking into the house the other day and got to "slowly walking down the hall, faster than a cannonball" before I literally stopped and said "wait...wtf?!"
I’m glad I don’t get high anymore cuz I’ll be right there wit him tryna make it make sense 😭😂😂😂😭
nah weed could never do this to anyone
Thanks for the word deepity. I looked it up. A deepity isn’t just any old pseudo-profound bit of drivel. It’s a specific kind of statement that can be read in two different ways: one way that’s true but trivial, and another that’s much more intriguing but false. Coined by the philosopher Daniel Dennet
I think he usually phrases it like this, to the extent that it's true it's trivial, and to the extent that it's profound it's false.
@@dennisdavis6943 I looked up the definition and cut and pasted it. I didn't type it. I am sure that they have their own way of phrasing it.
I would argue that sadness is more of a destroyer than reality is of a creator... Damn, that sooo deep. I think Eric is really onto something with that. We've got the beginnings of a solid cult right there. 😆
Sadness might be a destroyer, but fear is the mind-killer
You handled it wonderfully. Well done.
Love when callers try to setup a "gotcha moment" and you guys not only call them out on it, but beat them to their own punchline. Lol
EXPERIENCE
Max Larsen I think it’s trying to communicate...
true believers know God has NO feet - he has flippers!
...and tentacles and wings and his name is Great Cthulhu...👾
God is a foot,Sherlock Holmes
I cant believe how much patience you guys have, snap already
God has no properties, therefore how is god different from nothing?
Do we have an example of a nothing? *jk*
@@mojobag01 As far as I'm aware, the theist view is that god has no properties and therefore their example of nothing is god; god is nothing?
@@SqwarkParrotSpittingFeathers Who said a lack of quale indicates non-existence? That would be like confusing zero and undefined.
@@mojobag01 true but then not really. You haven't just made up the fact of this bird, it's been proven as existing. I could on the otherhand say that there is no proof that a qgichheck exists it's just a word or concept that you've or someone made up out of imagination. The same can be said of a god. There is no real, reliable or testable evidence that it exists except from some ancient book that has not been updated or proven, except by people's faith that it is true, in part because they want it to be true. But the book itself is proof that an all powerful god cannot exist because if it was the word of God then it would be clear and persuasive, persuading anyone who read it of this god's existence. But, it is not universally persuasive at all, indeed it is losing ground in places that have not been indoctrinated and where critical thinking is encouraged.
@@SqwarkParrotSpittingFeathers So the attributes of an ephemeral item are merely borrowed from a more concrete object or abstract. Yep, I think we worked this one out between us. Thor help the apologists though :)
So his god exists “outside reality and time”...
Does that mean his god is not real and it never existed?
yes...
but also no
Mostly yes
@@kathryngeeslin9509
but also... no
he's talking about something that exists under a different definition of "existing"
@@joulian The human mind likes everything to have a beginning and ending, boundaries; and also something before then, after, outside. The contradiction isn't reality or god, just us and our mental limits. We always want to know the farthest edge, but then to know what's past it, and then... turtles all the way down.
@@kathryngeeslin9509
you're completely right
but you're also wrong :P
The book of Eric is a great bit that I actually think is effective. I enjoy it lol
The answer to how many feet God has? 42.
I spoke with a flat-earther today. His argument was that water (oceans) can't be curved because they use water in bubble levels. You can't argue with that.
So Yoel has anglicized his name and decided to see if Eric and Vi will put up with him longer than Matt.😆
He wasn't ready. I love it when they think they're doing something slick
I think this guys argument summed up is "reality is real, thus god"
it is always amazing listening to biblical believers be so knowledgeable about their god, 'his' properties and 'will' ! this one bases his god on platonic objects !! ... and also has deep cosmological understanding of the universe including the big bang !!!
Religion is when people think they get to argue with their imagination but nobody else can.
This is a good one
I'm adding it to my collection
This was a great one.
The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance,it is the illusion of knowledge.Stephen hawking.
I believe in evolution,universe was created 13 billion years and earth about 4.5 billion years.
Many DO NOT CLAIM it is all impossible. Often, just unlikely.
Hence why I am an agnostic. But why is YOUR version automatically correct, from this?
And what was wrong with the spirits and wisdoms of ANGELS? Or of 1/3 of them being suddenly ignorant or suicidal?
I never mentioned a mud puddle. Please remember who is an agnostic, here.
I am NOT an atheist. I just find many of them less obnoxious than some theists, and DO NOT think their case is complete... or yours.
Joel is the verbal equivalent of a Migraine.
I like when they bring time into it, then have to justify that "before time began" is meaningful and useful.
Sadness is an Emotion that people feel
When I saw the goal post, I laughed with joy.
I am so confused this discussion was really exhausting... I'm exhausted just listening to it
that's a normal reaction after listening to Joel
This caller is a classic example of how religion acts like a “brain virus” sucking reality, evidence and intelligence out of the average individual.
Or... Does it show that the average individual just isn't that demanding of evidence or smart...?
Is it the cause, or just a sympom?
@@UKMonkey good point !
God has all the feet and no feet: He is the Alpha and the Omega.
Wow! This religion thing is easy! LOL!
Lord I don't believe in, I needed a BIG nap after this one. I don't know how you two did this....
Joel is a unicorn that is also a cheeseburger. Glasser!
REALITY is a property of things which are REAL. Take away all the things which are REAL and REALITY goes away.
Are numbers real?
@@BlacksmithTWD If you take away reality then what's left to count?
@@tonyharford4625
Not an answer to my question. Try again.
@@BlacksmithTWD Define real.
@@tonyharford4625
Why should I define 'real'? You introduced the concept, you define it. You still haven't answered my question btw, do try again.
Eric un Vi are saints 😇 in their patience with such discutions. I propose their canonization.
Murphy's reactions are fucking priceless
Joel's god is the absolute winner of hide-and-seek. I'm reasonably sure we'll never find him based on his dense definition. Now, where did I put that jar of 'sadness'?
What about your god?
He was as smart as a clogged up sink!
To talk to someone that has no freaking clue how silly they sound. It must be wild.
Vi made him fall apart 😂 and Eric destroyed him 😂😂😂
Actually Eric you can pick up Sadness, she's blue and chubby and cries a lot
Also anger
But he'd probably burn your hand
This is your brains on religion
The best way to describe Joel is this;the lights are on,but unfortunately there is nobody at home.just saying,
"No, Wait! I'm talking to the book!" Hahahahahaha 🤣
God cannot be proven therefor doesn't exist. Change my mind with proof and I'll believe whatever it is that you prove. Oh wait...
THAT'S SCIENCE!
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Jimbus Rift Does the guy who knows a guy that knows a guy know god? I'd love to meet him!
@@JLuke2oo7 no he knows Carl though, nice fellow
Did Carl stay at a Holiday Inn last night?
@Jimbus Rift then it must be true
🤣🤣
"Man... is like horse." -Borat
in reality scientists go out and observe what really happens to things and what properties these things have, they don’t define reality as God and than go around looking for something that “fits the bill” or even better just invent a bold ass statement, God is the first!
I define God as someone who has his head up is arse. Damn, Joel is God.
At least you manage to define the word when using it.
We have a concept of the "universe", which is a very handy concept.
However it leads to confusion and lots of silly ideas.
The "universe" is no more a thing than "life" or "love" or "consciousness" or "story" or "afternoon".
"Reality" is another handy concept which also causes confusion and lots of silly ideas.
I don't think I've ever heard someone admit, even indirectly, that they have a script.
Dont believe
“Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many. Do not believe in anything simply because it is found written in your religious books. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders. Do not believe in traditions because they have been handed down for many generations. But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it.”
Buddha quotes (Hindu Prince Gautama Siddharta, the founder of Buddhism, 563-483 B.C.)
All hail Emperor Palpatine who can't be evil because we simply can't understand his grand plan!
Me: Aren't we cursed to burn in hell because we have knowledge of good and evil? Isn't that evil? (Echo) Evil... Evil... Evil...
Don't you have to discover the properties of a god, not just make them up ?
We didn't make up the properties of Venus, then go looking for a planet that matches those properties.
We examined Venus, then listed all the surprising properties that we found.
The proposed god is it is not available for examination.
It's fascinating that people need to have reality explained to them:(
I am too sober for this
I can't believe someone put forward an argument so bad, that they've pretty much managed to almost disprove reality
This was a solid 8.5 on the difficult to listen to scale
You could be right since I stopped listening and started browsing the comment section before the end of the video.
Time started at the moment of creation. No matter atheist or Theist, each person has an opinion and only that.
My brain hurts when Eric talks to the caller then goes back to normal when vi get to answer the caller
“Hi, I’m dumb….I mean Joel!”
Maybe the caller was referring to the 1988 movie "Land Before Time"....lol!
Thanks Mr. Murphy... cognitive/verbal creation's remain narratives until such are evident (verified truth) in universe. Menus are not meals, pictures aren't the OBJECT pictured. A DISCRIPTION OF AN OBJECT IS NOT THE OBJECT.
The hosts were spot on. God = {}
I think I just listen to him calling into the atheist experience
Zak rogers and it was just as painful
Is reality real? Is time real? Is it all an illusion? Deepity Beepity.
@Jimbus Rift I love discussions like this.
A neutrino walks into a bar.
A neutrino walks through a barman.
It's always neutrinos, why do you never hear of old ones?!?
"you're on the list" hahaha
For the life of me..... i really dont see how they do this every week. Been watching for awhile. Wow.... just wow!
Ikr? I guess there exists people that can be educated, but for me personally it's wearing thin
These Atheists are already in hell
This Might be a better Proof for God than any shit they heard
@@Phoenix-King-ozai
Define your statement.
@@kinglyzard uhh
Listening to the kind of callers they listen to is like being in hell
@@Phoenix-King-ozai
I'll buy that
Did something ever exist before time? Yes!!! 😂😂😂😂
Eric has a hard copy of the book he wrote called, "the book of Eric". I wonder if he would make a lot of money if he were to sell those.
“Reality is the creator.” Let’s apply synonyms…
Existence is the architect / Matter is the author.
We get Kanye West lyrics.
I’m not sure if Joel would agree or this would disprove his argument… If we went to a parallel universe and found quantum mechanics were different, the people of that universe would be experiencing a different ‘reality’. Is that two Gods?
Hey
Kanye's lyrics are dope
Atleast they used to be
Put down the bong Joel.
Time is like temperature. The lowest possible temperature is Absolute Zero at which all particle movement ceases. A temperature lower than absolute Zero would imply that particles can move slower than being at rest, which is just nonsensical. The beginning of time is when all particles begin to move for 'The first Time'. It is not possible for particles to move before that because that would simply be moving the beginning of time backward, another nonsensical notion.
This guy is bananas.
How does this dude know god is gender neutral? It never ceases to amaze me how arrogant believers are in that they assume to know all these properties about their god.
I was waiting for Joel to sell me a time share.
It sounds like he is using the “God is the multiverse” argument.
I love that moving goal post and I need one
Joel is a world champ in wordsalad
If the design of humans was compared to cars, they would be like the Edsel.....
@Never-ending party Care to provide proof that Adam lived 930 years? Yeah, yeah, yeah, it says it in your book of fairy tales... Any actual proof? And your whole Rolls Royce analogy is totally stupid...
@Never-ending party Are you stating that your god is a poor designer that couldn't "create' a human without errors that form these "defects".
How many more years before these "defects" make it impossible for humans to procreate?
God has 1 foot that is 3 individual feet but still all part of the 1 foot.
You'd think God would help these people out wouldn't you, they're trying to explain the unexplainable and God isn't helping one iota
Lol feet " daddy does God have big feet?" -. Dana carvey
I'm 14 and this is deep.
Taking 'figurative expressions' with literal meaning is a sign of schizophrenia. I have an hypothesis that Religious belief an schizophrenia are related in an aspect of the functioning of the human brain.
This guy just poved that his god can not possibly exist and that his god could not have possibly created the universe. But, he still believes in his god.
Oh dear. The feet of god.
Show them
Mwahaha
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Joel took years off my life
this show should be called "Golem and the Beta"
Feels like I'm worshiping nothing at all...! Nothing at all...! Nothing at all!