I really disliked Len Fairclough , when Rita needed his help after being hit by first husband , he told her to go back to him. He had no problem with mistreatment of women , as we can see in this video.
@Dirty Anus Sorry but I grew up in this period and men who knocked women about were not "fairly typical" of the times at all. Decent men despised them and because there were no laws to stop the abusers, their neighbours often took matters into their own hands and dealt out rough justice. Do not make the error of confusing what the police and the courts attitudes' were with what was considered acceptable by ordinary people.
I agree about the shop owner, reminds me of a few characters in my youth.. banging on about the war like it was one big Hollywood movie! I swear Gene Hunt was based on Fairclough/Adamson.
It is amazing to see how things have changed when the idea of a youngishwoman without a husband was considered a tragedy. That she would go out on dates was spoken of as though she was a prostitute. So horrible. Women were supposed to get remarried right away or act like grieving widows/pious aunt-like spinsters. Annie Walker talks about her like she is a "fallen woman'. A still powerful idea at that time. Even divorced women were considerd dangerous to society until remarried. Check out the way the married women treat a divorced mother who moves into the neighborhood in Mad Men. Thanks feminism.
marshhen In thé defence of what you have alluded to - it was over half a century ago. Did you ever study history? That’s what this is. And why you wrote ‘Thanks feminism’ actually eludes me.
Also - many families had what were called ‘maiden aunts’. Terribly old fashioned pre feminism term, eh? But you know something - or you probably don’t - it was actually quite accepted that some women didn’t marry. I think you have a skewed and incorrect view of history, and as usual, are judging the past through the eyes of the present.
Aww that's not very nice. I know he did have an alcohol problem at one point in his life but he was completely exonerated of any abuse charges. Sometimes people confuse the person with the character they play. I was really surprised when I seen my first interview with Pat Phoenix, she was so well spoken, so gentle and miles away from Elise Tanner.
It was a strange one. They had sexual previous history from when they were younger, they alluded to it several times. But Elsie wanted bigger and better things than the Street and Len needed someone glamorous but happy with her lot, hence Rita. So they flirted and I don't think the episodes alluded to them sleeping together but Len felt some ownership and Elsie was needy for attention.
Caroline G oh thank you so much!! 😀 Now it makes sense. ☺ I set myself on a mission to watch the series from the beginning, and work my way through all the episodes, but with so many missing episodes, I struggle to know what's going on half the time! 😯
I agree with the previous comment, but seem to remember Elsie once saying how much they loved one another, but were both too fiery tempered, and if they were married would have ended up fighting and hating each other, so Elsie always thought it better they stay loving friends.
Len Fairclough was a piece of 💩💩 for treating Elsie Tanner that way
Thank You for this, my wife and I watched Coronation Street back in the 70s when we lived in the UK and this brings back so many memories.
Elsie certainly got better looking as she got older.
I think it's because her hair is down and she usually wears it pinned up. it softens her face down like that
Well the facelifts helped but she had the bone structure.
@@londonlady227 , She was a fine looking lady and fabulous bone structure. She always seemed so glamorous to me, like a movie star.
Annie Walker does best Shakespearean acting....gazing wistfully into the distance
Wow, what an episode. Shocked that Len would do that to Elsie.
Stan to Hilda: I’m blooming well ashamed of you 😂😂
I know this is a really stupid comment but every single lamp shade in this show is crooked and it's driving me nuts, LOL
Paintings too!😂
Oh tell me about it - if i know a loaf of bread is in my carrier bag upside down it bothers me
I really disliked Len Fairclough , when Rita needed his help after being hit by first husband , he told her to go back to him. He had no problem with mistreatment of women , as we can see in this video.
Yes me to horrible character
@Dirty Anus Sorry but I grew up in this period and men who knocked women about were not "fairly typical" of the times at all. Decent men despised them and because there were no laws to stop the abusers, their neighbours often took matters into their own hands and dealt out rough justice. Do not make the error of confusing what the police and the courts attitudes' were with what was considered acceptable by ordinary people.
Oooh many thanks x what a treat!!!
Powerful episode - Poor Elsie though Hilda at the window made me laugh. Len is a beast! Also, don't like the corner shop owner.
I agree about the shop owner, reminds me of a few characters in my youth.. banging on about the war like it was one big Hollywood movie!
I swear Gene Hunt was based on Fairclough/Adamson.
That was that day I was born watch it ever since
It is amazing to see how things have changed when the idea of a youngishwoman without a husband was considered a tragedy. That she would go out on dates was spoken of as though she was a prostitute. So horrible. Women were supposed to get remarried right away or act like grieving widows/pious aunt-like spinsters. Annie Walker talks about her like she is a "fallen woman'. A still powerful idea at that time. Even divorced women were considerd dangerous to society until remarried. Check out the way the married women treat a divorced mother who moves into the neighborhood in Mad Men. Thanks feminism.
marshhen In thé defence of what you have alluded to - it was over half a century ago. Did you ever study history? That’s what this is. And why you wrote ‘Thanks feminism’ actually eludes me.
Also - many families had what were called ‘maiden aunts’. Terribly old fashioned pre feminism term, eh? But you know something - or you probably don’t - it was actually quite accepted that some women didn’t marry. I think you have a skewed and incorrect view of history, and as usual, are judging the past through the eyes of the present.
Beautifully said, feminism no longer means what is used to ✊🏽
They need "Correcting" ......................
This guy on the left was in the shining the butler
Oh my goodness, he was wasn't he. I remember him saying when children misbehave they need correction, You must correct them.
He also played the seargent in the episode where Ida Barlow dies.
Poor Elsie!
He fell off his boat after raiding the pension found and his daughters a wrong un too it seems ........
Hi do you have 15th September 1965?
Hilda town gossiper.
Sometimes I like her, sometimes I don't.. Hilda is living life through the turmoil of others. I don't like this side of her.
I think deep down she wasnt malicious just lacking excitement in her life.
Very true to Peter Adamson's nature probably. 😕 The acts of an abuser. Gaslighting. Bring down then build up.
Aww that's not very nice. I know he did have an alcohol problem at one point in his life but he was completely exonerated of any abuse charges. Sometimes people confuse the person with the character they play. I was really surprised when I seen my first interview with Pat Phoenix, she was so well spoken, so gentle and miles away from Elise Tanner.
Elsie always on the wrong side of neurotic. Valium would've been her friend.
I love that expression: "the wrong side of neurotic."
What was Elsie and Len's relationship? I can't work it out (coz of the missing episodes).
It was a strange one. They had sexual previous history from when they were younger, they alluded to it several times. But Elsie wanted bigger and better things than the Street and Len needed someone glamorous but happy with her lot, hence Rita. So they flirted and I don't think the episodes alluded to them sleeping together but Len felt some ownership and Elsie was needy for attention.
Caroline G oh thank you so much!! 😀 Now it makes sense. ☺ I set myself on a mission to watch the series from the beginning, and work my way through all the episodes, but with so many missing episodes, I struggle to know what's going on half the time! 😯
I agree with the previous comment, but seem to remember Elsie once saying how much they loved one another, but were both too fiery tempered, and if they were married would have ended up fighting and hating each other, so Elsie always thought it better they stay loving friends.
Friends with benefits you would say today
@@briandelaney9710 oh, haha! Thank you 😁
Ha hahaha ... they are only acting you know ( to the folk below 👇🏻👇🏻👇🏻 )
Yes but it’s the characters we are talking about and the continuing story .I don’t think anyone is staying awake at night over this.
Don’t be so bloody patronising of course we know, it’s credit to the actors and writers, and it’s the reason the show is still running!