Check out my reaction channel here! - youtube.com/@Robert_Reacts?si=ZDtNZbRGFmm--lDO Also - I can’t remember what my makeup is in this video! This was filmed in January, and I forgot to make a note! 😩🖤
I am dying to know the pink/purple metallic shadow you're wearing. Even just a few guesses, or what you know of that's similar, any info would be much appreciated. Just the main color on your upper lids, if you can. I could see this being really versatile. Regardless, thanks for talking about the mary kay mlm. I've seen the older versions of the pink cars and truly, it's like pepto-bismal in person.
A Mary Kay rep came to my high school and promised all us graduating students a car back in the day. I told my mom about this fabulous "opportunity" and she said, "Any job that you need to pay to start is not a job, it's a scam!"
You're not the only one ! Although the way it came into my school was one of the moms was selling it and for career day she used that as an opportunity to make a pitch and surprisingly she sold a lot of product that day mostly to teachers
It's so funny, I was behind a powder pink Cadillac just yesterday and I told my son "hey look it's a Mary Kay car!" And then I got close enough to read the vanity plate and it said "I don't sell cosmetics I just LOVE this color" I was like omg 😂😂
I am a consultant and I do love the products but I have no desire to move up the ranks and fill my house with inventory. I am very part time. I do not have a sales personality and I do not think MLMs are for everyone. I do know people that are very successful all on their own separate from their team members. Like in any company there are bad eggs. I have heard the things that some have said to get people to sign up and it’s not good. Not all consultants are like that. I’m not. I am honest. The products have been awarded many times and they are ranked as the #1 best direct selling brand globally.
My sister lost so much money when she started selling this crap. I believe it was about $10,000 and it was right after she left the US Army. Just another MLM nightmare.
So, my mom actually started selling Mary Kay after she left her executive position. My mom is a very intelligent woman. I think what stood out to her was that Mary Kay was a Christian company and the person that got her into it with someone she trusted. She also loved the fact that it was a female founded brand. But yes, she got a Mary Kay credit card and was convinced she had to buy all the inventory. She still has a s*** ton of inventory she has not sold. I will never not support her, but I'm sad that she fell into it
@@noprogressionisregression6854I went to one of their demonstrations and what really creeped me out was how it was set up like a church. It just felt so creepy. And their moisturizer gave me a chemical burn
I’m old enough to have been invited so many “parties” just to find out when I got there that it was an MLM sales pitch: Amway, Herbalife, Mary Kay, Melaluca, Pampered Chef, Candle parties, etc. The most insulting part of those experiences was how the company convinced people I knew to monetize their friendships. Whenever that happened to me, I’d do everything I could to extricate myself from those “friendships.”
That's the worst part. They destroy friendships. If ever you suddenly are contacted out of the blue by an old friend or acquaintance chances are they're trying to flog something like this. I also was invited to afternoon teas, girls afternoon with cocktails, and other faux social gatherings that suddenly turned into a sales pitch: essential oils, Intimo lingerie, Nutrimetics, Tupperware, scrapbooking, cookware, Omegatrend... I felt guilty if I didn't buy anything so usually just bought the cheapest thing. And then there's that awful pressure and guilt trip at the end for the consultant to book another 3 parties otherwise the host doesn't get her "free gift". I just don't go to those things anymore. It's a nightmare.
Yes, Yes, Yes! I so hated getting those "invitations". They basically came with the obligation to buy something you didn't want & usually never used. Thanks for the memories??? 😂
I was HOUNDED by a MK “consultant” in 1987, when I was a poor , naive 18 year old- newly married college student. I eventually caved and took out a bank loan for $500 ($1300 in today’s $). Then, pressured to attend all these conferences, buy tons of “inventory’ (that I eventually had to donate). I HATED everything about it, and failed miserably, costing my family financial hardship. It’s a freaking CULT. Change my mind.
@@Tiffany-ee8eo I wish I would’ve thought of that! It was bad. I had to change my number! And we lost so much money. It really set us back. I’m sorry for your friends experience.
Wait, Robert I'm screaming because that's me as one of the dancers at the Mary Kay Conventions!!! At 5:34 that's me on the right on the scaffolding under the word TEAM holding my beautiful flag 💀I did two summer gigs in Dallas with the production company they used to work with. It was honestly a really nice gig dance-wise- decent pay, not too crazy hours, they fed us on convention days, lots of down time, and I did it with a bunch of my friends from university. Hilarious that I did that gig considering how anti-MLM I am now. Once we got thru all the rehearsals and staging portion, they gave us a shit ton of skincare and makeup with different looks for each costume etc. and it was all HORRIBLE lolol I was like I though they were a makeup company?? I didn't put any of the skincare on my face, I ended up using my own foundation since the color match for my pale skin was so bad (it was all dark orange on me), and the eyeshadow and blush had NO payoff at all. Like it was a major struggle to make those eye looks work and actually look different from each other. Alsooo all the music had lyric changes that added in Mary Kay references and we had to learn the new lyrics and lip sync them while we danced lol. I RODE onto the stage on a PICKUP TRUCK in one dance and was a butterfly up in a harness in another like!! Those ladies were obsessed with us any time they ran into any of the cast. It all feels like a bit of a fever dream but I have the leftover Mary Kay products to remind me it was real.
Omg what a funny story! My uncle was neighbors with her at one point in the late 80s/early 90s. I can’t remember her house or anything because I was young but I do know there was a pink Cadillac.
I was recruited when I was 19. I was really nervous to spend all the money upfront to buy my "stock," but my upline said they'd buy back anything I couldn't sell so that way I was guaranteed not to lose money. After trying for nearly a year and selling three things, I said I was done and asked upline to make good on her promise to buy things back. She refused because the company was in the middle of changing all their packaging so everything I had wouldn't be sellable. I learned later that the company does this regularly so that consultants who are "garage qualified" like I was have to buy a whole new stock. It took me more than a decade and thousands and thousands of dollars to dig myself out of the hole Mary Kay left me in. I was 19 and got talked into something that ruined my 20s and still has significant effects on me two decades later.
i'll never forget trying to make friends in uni and was invited to one of these mary kay evenings with how to do your skincare and makeup. i purchased something because i felt like i had to and then from there the rep kept texting me for more purchases etc. there was a time she called me and i was on my way to go down to my grandads funeral and she was like "but you're not at the funeral yet, lets talk more about your next purchase!" i hung up and blocked her number.
I got sucked into Mary Kay when I was about 20. I was dying to be a makeup artist and thought it would be a great way to become one while making money on sales too. No surprise, once my friends and family bought all they were willing to I ran out of customers and I was nowhere closer to my goal of becoming a pro artist. All the new “friends” I made pretty much abandoned me as I pulled away from Mary Kay. Fast forward 5 years and I eventually DID become a makeup artist and have been doing it now for 7 years. And I just stay far away from MLM’s now.
If a company ever describes themself as a family it’s a huge red flag. The company I work for did that and it was awful. Then we got a new boss and all the talk of “family” went away and now everyone is feeling so much better
I had a job that called us all family and love bombed me when I started. After I'd been there over 6 months, I was old news and I didn't get anymore recognition of my work. They also said that sales were down so no one was getting raises (this ceo has plaques everywhere about how much money the company has made over the years)
For any company that uses “we are family”, there should be a policy that you can run out of the boardroom yelling “you’re not my real mom!” when they ask for something unreasonable
Robert, I love how you aren't afraid of saying "i don't know/I don't understand". I work at a university, where everyone thinks they're very smart... I mean, they probably are by some standards, but the amount of ego is insane. You'll never hear someone say they don't know something so openly and I'm also guilty of it. This just kind of hit me in the head. I guess there's this pressure of always knowing everything and if you don't then you have to either pretend you do or try to avoid the conversation. It was so refreshing to see you say "I just don't get what it means." and keep going, like that information isn't that important to you, which in reality it isn't. Love all the content you've been giving us recently. 🖤🖤🖤
English is my second langue and the best tip I received is to never be afraid to tell ppl u don't understand something. And that mentality applied to so many other areas of my life. 😊
It’s so healthy and important to be comfortable saying “I don’t know”. I have so much respect for people who are willing to say they don’t have the answer(s), rather than make something up or avoid the question. I’ve been humiliated by so many doctors who refused to just say “unfortunately I don’t know what is the cause of what you’re going through, but I’ll do some testing/look into it/refer you to someone who might/i believe you/literally anything”. The amount of times doctors have said “it’s just anxiety” or seemed irritated that I came to see them because they were unsure 😩 meanwhile, I had a whole entire brain tumor.
I'm convinced most of the world's problems would be fixed if everyone would admit when they're wrong, or that they don't know about something. Politics would be a non-entity. 😉 People would learn from each other, and we would have a compassionate civilization. Experts would be allowed to take charge, and work together to actually solve problems.
I also have some nostalgia with Mary Kay. My mom didn't sell it, but she purchased the big suitcase size sales kit. It came with all shades & colors for full face make-up & a VHS on how to apply. She gifted it to me & I not only had the best make-up collection in the 90's but also was probably the only one who knew how to properly apply it.
My mom got roped into Mary Kay. So did my friends mom, and she got the pink car. Then nobody else in town could sell anything, cuz im from Juneau, Alaska, where there's no roads in/out, so we are very secluded. Then my mom did a jewelry MLM. I'm so glad she didn't get roped into more, she was so miserable during that time. It was after my parents divorce so she was on her own and she struggled so much. It was so hard to listen to her cry after every party she threw, because she was just giving away things and people weren't buying enough. It made me HATE MLM companies. I'm so glad there's an anti MLM community, I've followed Chelsea and Isabella for years now🫶
That’s so strange to me because I did Mary Kay too and I never lost a dime because they did not require me to place an order until a customer placed an order so I never kept stock. Therefore I never lost any money. I’m not really sure why anybody would win their policy is such that you don’t have to purchase any products until the customer orders. I used their make up so the only stock I kept was my own personal stock that was for me, but that’s not really stock that’s just like having make up backups and Skincare backups. But I never lost a penny, and I always find it strange when others say they did. I think that’s just not having a good mind for business if you lose money in Mary Kay.
I sold Mary Kay starting around 1991. I hated every second of it because the woman who recruited me was so pushy. I quit about a year later just to get her out of my life!
This gives vibes of the “fundraisers” they had us do at school .. my mom always ended up buying most of the chocolate, they show u what u could win but all the actual nice stuff was nearly impossible for any child to do. “Win a trampoline , when you sell 50 boxes of chocolate “ like …I’m 10 you are literally having me go door to door (dangerous) & make 5000 sales? AGAIN IM 10!!!
Ugh. I got recruited and sold MK from 2013-2015. It is so disheartening and so discouraging. I genuinely joined just to make like extra cash as a college student, and I was always at the bottom of my group because I refused to push products or try and recruit a downline. I'm so glad I got rid out and rid of it all. And while they're not the most expensive products to buy, there are so many other brands SO much better and cost-effective. Don't get sucked in for the "simple extra money"
@cherryfireice8216 Omg! I did the same thing! Just to support my friend! Matter of fact, I believe the makeup is still unopened in a "junk box" under my bathroom sink! Lol!
A friend and I were having brunch on the Queen Mary ship in Long Beach. We did not realize a Mary Kay convention was going on. It was an ocean of creepy Stepford wives in pink power suits. We got creeped out and left.
I'm a rep pushing 58, love the products, hate the business structure! I'm still in to keep the discount for self, give gifts and have the option to sell! No interest in pushy sales, begging for team members or a pink car! Your eye makeup is 🔥🔥🔥
I agree with you. If I make money, great, but the discount is very helpful. Also work a full-time job. Never do I want to be a pushy salesperson. Love the skincare too
I was told I would be a perfect Mary Kay rep back in the 90s! I have NONE of the traits it takes to be an MLMer. My husband was like yeah you should do it! Meet new people! Ummmm, I don’t want to meet people. I don’t want to ask people to buy shitty makeup. I don’t want a pink car.
When I worked in retail and had to meet a sales goal by like selling some new membership card or something it was an absolute nightmare. Not big on talking to new people but especially don't want to sell anything to them.
I tried to sell Mary Kay for less than a year. I had some stock, but no one ever wanted items I had on hand. My up-line called me asking to place an order so she could stay at the rank she was. I quit at that moment.
Absolutely! I lasted a couple of weeks and sold my kit at a yard sale. I tried to purchase replacement products as I had sold 300.00 that first week. I was told I had to buy through my supervisor. She would get the credit for the sales and not me. Well, that was the last thing I ever did. I told her it was a scam and I quit.
My aunt got sucked in by that cult. My mom felt so bad that she gave her $600 to try to help her stay afloat. It never worked out and she ended up losing a lot of money and my mom was out a lot of money as well. Unfortunately, my aunt didn’t learn her lesson. She’s now selling Farmasi. In fact, she’s live on Facebook now 🤦🏻♀️
Sounds like my mum. She’s gone through at least 6 different MLMs She hasn’t done any in a while but still buys from her friends MLMs. She also lives on FB
I was a Mary Kay lady for about a year in college. Lost a small amount of money, kind of got my heart broken, moved on to other things. Their skincare made my friends with sensitive skin break out in rashes and the other ladies I answered to kept saying that wasn't physically possible because the products were so pure.
This is exactly what happened to me in the late 90s early 2000s. The minute I stopped using the product, my skin went to hell! I had never had skin problems before Mary kay.
@@lesliewit they told us at one point that "if you're doing makeup for a bride, insist on seeing her months before her wedding because our products bring problems to a head and then fix them so you wouldn't want them causing acne right before her big day!" which is just nonsenses on so many levels. I think it was the foundation that was making everyone break out. It's THICK foundation. Like paint.
@@lesliewit ALSO, everyone who works with skin knows that nothing is 100% non-allergenic for everybody. Some people react to a hypoallergenic formula. But she kept saying it must be a coincidence because Mary Kay never breaks anybody out.
I ordered skin care from Mary Kay about 5 years ago before I knew much about skin care and my skin had a terrible reaction. Idk why I thought it would be good skin products when the makeup is garbage lol lesson learned
Ugh I worked at a hotel where the pink ladies had their conventions. They always tried to recruit us & although there was no policy, I would tell them it was against hotel policy to get involved in their MLM. They'd says stuff like you can't be happy doing this job😂 yes yes even after 12 years I love the hotel industry with all it's craziness
You’re happy because you have the passion to clean other people mess! And that’s ok! 🤷♀️ Mary kay is not always for everybody! But that doesn’t mean to believe all the lies this kind of person is talking. So, I think he’s resentful with the company because he can’t be a successful person. He looks more than a loser resent male. So, let’s see what’s Mary kay company says about this video.
@auroral.7156 Those are quite some assumptions. Yes I started as a room attendant while I was in college pursuing a degree to become a therapist. It is hard work please tip your room attendants or at least leave a thank you note or some snacks. I fell in love with the the hotel industry and didn't become a therapist. I've built a career I love and have amazing benefits/ retirement, my company serves it's community, and I have traveled to so many beautiful places. It does take passion for anyone in any industry to stay over a decade. I was approached by this person when I was a front desk manager. Money is important but sometimes what you enjoy doing for a living and a person's measure of success is not really about money it's the work culture and seeing the people you work alongside be successful and grow personally/ professionally. Hospitality is not for everyone like MLMs are not. Hope you have a beautiful day & a nice life 🌞 And BTW Robert and James are successful at what they do on their channels
My niece is like the 2nd highest seller in Monet. She is a millionaire and has bought several homes, etc. She has HUNDREDS of people "under" her and none of them make money like she does. Even after watching her go from having no money to becoming wildly successful, I would still NEVER join an MLM, EVER. I hate what it does to people. I hate them period.
@@vcr6854 It is wild. Her sister have both tried a million different MLMs and none of them worked out. She makes millions of dollars. I can't imagine though all that money riding on what others underneath you do. She owns homes and all the toys and RVs, boats, etc. That's a lot to pay for if the MLM goes belly up or your downline stops selling. I mean you risk that with any company of course but with an MLM the risk is way higher!
@@vcr6854be willing to sign people up knowing you'll be getting money from them in a time when they really shouldn't be spending money because they are broke.
When I graduated from college in 1985, I started wearing Mary Kay makeup. I absolutely LOVED it. My skin loved the products, and I could work all day, and my makeup looked exactly like it did when I applied it. One of my friends was selling it, and she got the car etc. But, when Mary Kay died, the quality of the makeup dropped dramatically as far as I was concerned.... so I stopped using any of their products. I think the makeup is similar to Elf's, but so much more expensive!!
@Patti-1962, I sold MK in the mid 80’s. I actually made a nice bit of money. My director fell very ill at one conference, she overheard a very high level man (If I remember correctly he was a relative of hers) say is that ‘Jane Doe’ person really as sick as she says she is? She was deeply hurt and I was very offended for her and angry. I got home and sent back all of my inventory and never looked back. I DO agree once MK passed the quality began to suffer, as my friends that stayed would tell me. But now that I’m older I certainly realize the MLM structure and how its sole purpose is to make the upper echelons richer.
@@ccrgrl agree, Satin Hands is amazing! And the only MK purchase I ever make. One of my coworkers aunt still sells it so I’ll have her get some for me.
I mean I have to agree that Avon products are trash and I personally feel Mary Kay products are actually pretty decent. At least their skin Care is not bad. Their products got me into skin care and now I'm 45 and look 30.
Omg I was LITERALLY bullied into becoming a consultant when I was 18. I had no capacity to sell anything. I was super shy and said no a bunch of times. My friends old sister was so insistent. When I told my friend I really didn't want to do it he was like "How dare you. My sister is so excited about this and trying to have her own business. She will be so disappointed if you don't. You can't just say no". Like, really angry. It ended up costing me a bunch of money and I hated it. Eventually moved interstate and never answered the recruiter calls again.
I was a rep and kept plugging along for years recruiting people etc. I didn’t really make much, my recruiters stopped selling, I felt brainwashed into talking up Mary Kay all the time. I finally realized I didn’t even like many of their products! I quit and sold back my product at 60% of what I paid for it. What a relief!
Oh I remember Mary Kay, it was my mom's introduction to beauty/skincare while I was getting into make up and k beauty skincare. I remember her being offered a cleanser for 42 dollars as I was looking at the face shop rice cleanser 2 piece set for 18 dollars. It's wild how much of a scam Mary Kay is. I'm so glad I showed her better brands.
My poor mother was HARRASED so badly by these people. They called the cops on her and got sued over her not selling the products she was supposed to and she told them I can’t do this and tried giving them back but they wouldn’t take it 🤦🏻♀️
What??? How insane. I was a rep in Brooklyn, NY for 5 years. It's very cult like. I quit in 2008, but never heard of anything like this happening. Sorry your mom went through this.
My parents were in several MLMs and even used my identity to sign up for spots when I was under 18. They were even featured in a magazine (a photoshoot I was intentionally absent for!) and even have weird pics with Dr. Oz from events. Spent many silent dinners with a MLM call on speaker phone for us all to hear even when I was an adult. MLMs ruin families, relationships and lives. I'm chronically ill and disabled - the amount of products I've been pitched that would cure my incurable illnesses is wild... from family, friends and strangers. All the while my parents couldn't afford the mortgage and my mother had to go back to work after 15+ years at home (not even raising me - she wasn't maternal - I raised myself) while they had an actual business to run. They could have put time, money and energy into their real business but it all went into the idea of success and MLM events and parties while they were financially struggling and close to losing their home. I have many MLM horror stories and got sucked into them as well but got out when I was 17. MLMs are horrible.
I'm not selling anything. Just wondering if you have ever been referred to an allergist doctor, by your family Doctor. Allergic reactions can create havic on a person's body. If you do get tested, read up on your allergin, learn it's names/ biproduct names. Avoid buying products with those allergins in the ingredient list. 2nd. Ask for a blood test to be done, to see what vitamins your body is low on. Take tjose specific vitamins daily. This will help with hair loss, depression, anxiety, aches & pains, Bloating, Energy levels, and much more. I hope you find what is ailing you. 💕
Thank you for covering this, Robert. I was an “independent beauty consultant” on and off three times before I really understood just how toxic it was. And it was only a few weeks ago when it dawned on me I was in a cult. I’m glad you got through it quickly yet accurately, and that I was able to watch the whole thing without going into hysterics.
This was great Robert. I am embarrassed to say I was subject to this scheme in the 90’s. It was a low time of my life. I went to Dallas and got to meet Mary Kay I had a good time. At this time I had my own salon and was able to sell the product in the salon. It fizzled out and was a horrible experience. I hope you videos exposing these MLM Pyramid companies and save people from the misery. The only people that gain from this are the very early investors. That being said Robert you look fabulous today. That eye look is amazing with your brown eyes ♥️☮️🖤
I live in the uk, I’ve never heard of her and don’t know much about MLMs except they are bad news, sounds to me like a lot of ppl got stuck in these creepy culty awful things and you are not alone and certainly shouldn’t be embarrassed for trusting people ❤
Robert’s Mary Kay ranks made me cackle so aggressively I choked on the bagel I was eating. For future reference, here are the tiers you can aspire to as an MK consultant. 😂 1. Lady Next Door 2. Diamond Princess 3. Queen of the Universe
Bought some MK products from an acquaintance to support her. She asked people to come to her final consultant training on Zoom, which we were told was to provide feedback for her and her trainer. When we logged on, it turned out to be a 60-minute pitch for MK and they tried to recruit all of us to my acquaintance's sales team atthe end. You could see from everyone's faces how uncomfortable we all felt when all of a sudden it turned into a "will YOU support your friend and help her grow her business?" guilt trip attempt. None of us signed up, of course, and the whole thing ended awkwardly.
THANK YOU!!!!! I was apart of this commercial cult otherwise known as an MLM and I’m SO glad I got out when I did. This company is super predatory. Thank you for bringing awareness to topics like these! I appreciate it more than you’ll ever know! I am now in school to teach yoga and I have an Etsy shop where I sell my handmade items so I’m getting closer to ACTUALLY owning my own business one day. ❤ much love & light!
As a member of the British Compact Collectors Society and a collector myself of vintage cosmetics I’ve read many books on the subject. Mary Kay, Oriflame etc are mlms but people forget that Avon is also an mlm! Very successful and yet the perks are very poor. Their target market? At home mothers. Sadly most of these woman end up out of pocket and in debt because of these companies. The more they are shown for what they are the quicker woman will get wise to them. Well done for highlighting them.
I love listening to memoirs on audiobook, and two I've listened to recently were "Hey, Hun," by Emily Lynn Paulson, about her experience reaching a high level in an MLM, and "Leaving the Witness," by Amber Scorah, about her experience of being in and leaving the Jehovah's Witnesses. Though the worlds surrounding these cult experiences are very different, they bear many striking similarities and I'd recommend both books for a deeper dive. Great video as always, Robert!
I got roped into MK when I was young and put a ton of money on a credit card buying a “starter”sales kit with some of each of the makeups and skincare that were out at the time so I had things to sample and preview/display whatever.and never sold one thing, and then they hounded me for years for not coming back to them. They were also super conservative and religious at our sales meetings. They opened every sales person meeting with Prayer and tried to insist I participate, even as a different religion. All sales ladies were expected to dress a certain way, mostly just in black, and no pants, skirts or dresses only, depending on your rank you could wear certain colors or prints. You had to wear heels. And they wanted us to only wear pearls or gold jewelry. And they said they “had” to be real gold or pearls because we couldn’t be going around to clients looking cheap. You were expected to always have on makeup. At all times. Even if you were just running errands. This was emphasized at multiple meetings I went to. Yeah. Their whole thing was awful.
I recently got into anti MLM content,it cropped up on my algorithm after watching true crime creators weirdly…and it’s fascinating! It’s mad how people get sucked into the craziness of it all and some of the negative affects it has on their relationships etc, More MLM content please Roberto! 😊
I used to sell Mary Kay. The one thing that turned me off from it was when I kept coming up with ideas to sell products through different websites and social media platforms. EVERYONE kept telling me, "that's not how we do it." I'd suggest comparing MK products with drugstore products, and they'd throw a hissy fit about it because we should only have MK products in our homes. Basically if you weren't a high up representative, don't even think about coming up with new ideas to sell their products. It's like they were holding you back while also saying you need to shoot for the stars.
Robert love these videos!! One of the ways you get recruited is they tell you “hey you are already spending $90 if you join us you can get the products you want in this opening package for only $55 and anything additional you get a a great discount.”Then they convince you how easy it is to sell it. Thanks for these informative videos!!
I love knowing that your brother edits your videos, because when moments like you scratching your armpit of flubbing your words happen I know he left them in on purpose :')
Every time one of them says my business I roll my eyes. The eye roll has become a default setting for my brain! 😆 My business 🙄 It can no longer be controlled so if one of them is standing in front of me and drops that line they’ll suddenly discover I’ll never be recruited and I’m the enemy
Omg. When I was in college I went to a Mary Kay party. I was recruited. The recruiters boss got me on the phone, and basically tried to bully me to take out a 10 grand loan. I thought I could just make a couple of non committal bucks on the side. Even when you go the route without the inventory, you still have to purchase x amount to be considered a consultant. Gives me anxiety thinking about it.
Girl I got wrapped up in this mess MULTIPLE times 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️ I'm glad that I finally got out of it and haven't looked back. Such awful, predatory practices 😞
One of my aunts went into credit card debt for buying tons of products she never sold. The way they brainwashed women with the hopes of driving the pink Cadillac is insane. I think we can all say we know someone who got sucked into this MLM
As a grown-up girl, Mary Kay throughout the 80s and 90s was everything! Beautiful products, beautiful, packaging, and so much fun .. it was like having Sephora inside your house.
The Mary Kay building in Dallas is straight out of the 1970s/80s. You can’t help but imagine ladies in 80s power suits and big hair walking around inside 😂
I remember my sister in-law pushing this on me. It was like I could almost not say no to get sucked in. I finally had to be point blank NO. She was always ice cold after that. Over Mary Kay crap. lol
Former, and very briefly, an MK consultant. If you do what you have to do to get to these “exalted” levels, kiss your husband, kids, family and friends goodbye. Your husband and kids will never see you and the rest of your family and friends will hide from you. However, I did love their makeup remover. Never found anything to compare to it.
Kristen Dunst was in ths amazing TV series 'On becoming God in Central Florida' playing a wife of an MLM salesman who becomes widowed, realises she is broke and goes on to get revenge on the MLM company it's really good. Feels like your kind of vibe.
My grandma and aunt were in Mary Kay when I was around 8. They ended up buying tons of product sample bundles to use at parties, spent a shitload of money, and then never made their money back. The ended up giving me a couple boxes full of makeup products to play with, and that's how I got into makeup. To this day I still love makeup so much and have a very beautiful, curated collection. MLMs are terrible and predatory, and I'm glad my aunt and grandma were only in long enough to get me a bunch of play makeup and didn't go into debt over it. lol
The main rep in our town started selling full time when her husband injured his back and could no longer work, they had a couple kids too. She has her own little building where she does parties and has the pink caddy. While I despise MLM’s, this woman is wonderful and it’s been the best way for her to support her family.
I am glad that you made this video and mentioned a study from Harvard. I was reached out by somebody who I used to know trying to invite me for a pampered chef party and I told him that I don’t support MLM‘s recently. Definitely wanna share this video. Also, Mary Kay make up is what got me to no longer support. MLM‘s, since I know what’s better at the drugstore and prestige make up.
On your last point, not only would I never jump in defending my non-MLM employer in the comments of anything, we're actually not ALLOWED to wade into that sort of thing. They want the social media team dealing with that messaging, not random employees.
My mom has sold MK since the 90s. She’s never made significant money but she’s SPENT thousands. I used to love their eye makeup remover until I stopped using it and my eyelashes STOPPED FALLING OUT. It’s a predatory scam.
I remember when a lady approached me at the store about having a Mary Kay makeover. I was too nice back then and said ok. After she did my makeup she was so pleased with herself. I think I purchased some clear lips gloss and a blush. When she dropped the product off the next day she asked me how my husband liked my new look. I told her he loved it. I didn’t have the heart to tell her I actually knew how to apply makeup and she had just caught me on a gym day. I can still remember the feeling that she was kind of desperate for a sale and needing new clients. It really opened my eyes to the pressure they were under to sell.
My MIL was suckered into trying to sell Mary Kay sometime back in the early/mid 90’s. She ended up being stuck with a *bunch* of inventory, when she went through a drawn out divorce and subsequently stopped selling. I eventually tried several of the products (at zero cost - she invited me to go through and take what a wanted) and I can honestly state that NONE of the MK cosmetics/products it tried were worth a damn.
I saw lots of MK cars in Brooklyn, NY. It's very popular with Caribbean and Latino women. I had lots of clients, but quit when I didn't want to recruit them, and hated the pressure from top directors. Very cult like.
Their "people" being independent consultants is bad also, they don't get any real benefits. 60 Minutes did a story about a lady who lost everything because she got real sick and got no support of any kind from Mary Kay. She got nothing because she was an independent consultant and they received, at the time the story was done, no insurance. Horrible.
As a Black woman Mary Kay parties scarred me. They never had my shade range! Always had me looking casket ready and ugly. Gave me anxiety about buying something. Would depress me in high school. I'm 42 and still scared to let anyone do my makeup!
I'll never forget pulling up to a PF Chang's in Dallas on a work trip and seeing way too many pink cars in the lot. Two of us from rural America both pulled back a bit before going in, we were whispering to each other, "are they a cult?" because there were like 100 pink ladies in the restaurant. Ofc MK is sold in rural areas (and it's considered high end, bless em), but no one ever succeeds and neither of us had seen a MK convention before. Our March of Dimes conventions were a little heavy handed too, but we never dressed alike and we were actually doing productive things for society.
When I was in high school my mom tried to get into Mary Kay because a lady from the church we used to attend was wanting to recruit my mom. I tried some of the products that my mom bought and they weren't good at all. My mom went to a few Mary Kay events but it was too pricey for her to keep up with and when she told the lady from our church that she was backing out the lady looked at my mom in disgust and never spoke to my mom again.
I was moving pretty quickly through Mary Kay, close to getting my own car. It was A LOT of work. I kept pushing though, but finally, I just had enough. Nothing bad really happened, I just opened my eyes and quietly left. I was spending more money than I was making. It just wasn't worth it. Plus, people stopped buying from me because you have other Mary Kay reps selling their products at a discount. Yes, they tell you that you don't need inventory, but they definitely push you to get it.
I had a Mary Kay rep try to recruit me when I was like 18/19 and my mom, who worked at the Chanel makeup counter for 15 years, was literally like “you should do it”
My diet is actually an MLM, however, it really works. I've lost 125 lbs. and am at my goal weight. I had one coach who used to try to recruit me so I got a different coach.
I had a Mary Kay rep come to my apt, to sell me on the product/sales etc. I liked the book as it had good points on how to do make up for face shapes etc, and I still have a lip brush that still works like a dream, and thought their refillable compacts were great. ( this was back in 1983) what really pissed me off was she told me that in order to get ahead and be somebody (her words!!) I really ought to try dressing better... mind you, I had been on my own for over 3 yrs, had my own apt, was employed and was really into alternative anything make up- and was goth/punk before it really hit hard in the US. I looked just fricken fine so..showed her the door. And well, 41 yrs later I am still fricken fine. Thank you Robert, great video!!!!
Every single woman that I ever saw that had one of those pink cars wasn't a nice person. They always walked as if they were better than you. You couldn't talk to them without hearing about Mary Kay and if you said you weren't interested they would immediately stkp talking to you.
Please stop with the generalization. Not true. My sister drives a pink Cadillac and she one of the sweetest person I know. She does not stop talking someone because they weren’t interested in MK.
@@lizettemuna3234 I said, every single woman that I, key word I, saw wasn't nice. I've never seen a woman who drove one be a nice person ever. I'm speaking from my personal experience.
@@lizettemuna3234same here I grew up with some family members driving pink Cadillacs & they were all very sweet & caring. Never pushy at all, more on the humble side and wanting people feel better.
When I graduated high school, my aunt gave me a bunch of Mary Kay make up. I thought I was living the high luxury life. Then came the party request lol.
I'm a rep.....but only for myself. My director doesn't bother me at all. I told her straight up that I'm only becoming a rep to get product at a discount. She was ok with that. I'm pushing 50, I don't need, nor want, all that headache of pushy sales. So far, it's worked out great. My pocket book is happy, my skin is happy, and I'm happy.
Yesss my mom is too. I’m 37 and have used the skin care and eye make up remover since high school and love it. The eye makeup remover is the best I have ever used, especially for water proof mascara. I have back ups of the setting spray. I get more every Christmas and always excited!
My mom warned me about MK and Avon and pyramid schemes back when I was little. I think our neighbor must have been selling one of them. There was also tupperware and a basket company that were big when I was a kid, but now there's sooooo many more of these. My friend got sucked into some makeup mlm that I'd never even heard of before.
This company has ruined my childhood. My mom basically has become a hoarder for useless products. It’s truly awful how they target specific demographics.
My mom used this makeup for yeeeaaarrrs. She got my first makeup set from there. Awful awful eyeshadow. I only recently convinced her to stop using their creams and just buy drugstore.
oh man, my aunt has been a mary kay consultant for DECADES. she goes to the big conference in dallas, texas every year. her house is filled with thousands upon thousands of dollars of unsold products because she only has like five people that actively buy from her. oh, and I always get mary kay products that I do not want or need from her every christmas because she just refuses to just me gift cards or cash . 🥴
My mom got sucked into Mary Kay back in the 90s, the MLM businesses pretty much target young stay at home moms, especially in the military. Mary Kay, Pampered Chef, Avon, all the wives took turns holding parties selling each other stuff. She never made money, never got to go to the conferences, and couldn't sell her remaining products back. She got super lucky that our moving van caught fire when going to a new duty station and she lost all her product and was able to make an insurance claim to get her money back.
Gosh I remember this company when I was a young girl. My mom use to host these parties for a friend once a year. They would give you this plastic tray that had sections in it and in the sections were small amounts of their skin care and makeup. The representative would get you to apply each one step by step while trying to get you soooo interested in each product. And tell you how important it was to use each of these products together. How sad. I love these videos please keep on doing them. ♥️
Check out my reaction channel here! - youtube.com/@Robert_Reacts?si=ZDtNZbRGFmm--lDO
Also - I can’t remember what my makeup is in this video! This was filmed in January, and I forgot to make a note! 😩🖤
I am dying to know the pink/purple metallic shadow you're wearing. Even just a few guesses, or what you know of that's similar, any info would be much appreciated. Just the main color on your upper lids, if you can. I could see this being really versatile.
Regardless, thanks for talking about the mary kay mlm. I've seen the older versions of the pink cars and truly, it's like pepto-bismal in person.
Dahling, did you know that the Queen, Aretha Franklin, sang a very, very popular song called Pink Cadillac ? Many would love to have one.
Nooooooo! This Smokey eye tho!!
We can’t remember everything luvey we’re only human 🙏🏼🙌🏼💙🫶🏼 u look AMAZING DAWWWLINGGG!!! luv this vid MaryKay be actin out 🤣🤣
That eyeshadow is absolutely stunning!
A Mary Kay rep came to my high school and promised all us graduating students a car back in the day. I told my mom about this fabulous "opportunity" and she said, "Any job that you need to pay to start is not a job, it's a scam!"
smart mom! how awful they were allowed to pitch in schools!
Fantastic Advice!!!
I wish that were still the case. A lot of jobs require you to buy overpriced equipment and uniforms to start working.
You're not the only one ! Although the way it came into my school was one of the moms was selling it and for career day she used that as an opportunity to make a pitch and surprisingly she sold a lot of product that day mostly to teachers
@@brookelynnwu8016if that’s happening to u u need to be reimbursed by the employee
That is not legal
It's so funny, I was behind a powder pink Cadillac just yesterday and I told my son "hey look it's a Mary Kay car!" And then I got close enough to read the vanity plate and it said "I don't sell cosmetics I just LOVE this color" I was like omg 😂😂
Must’ve been a really big plate.
@@Tootsie806If you’re behind a car and have normal/good eyesight, a vanity plate should be no problem to see.
@@ghoultooth
Not a matter of seeing, but of fitting 9 words on a standard size plate. In the US , from 6-8 characters are allowed.
That’s so funny omg
Bumper sticker you mean?
All these MLMs start off the same. A struggling mom just trying to make it. And then they take advantage of other struggling moms.
NOT a mlm, direct sales, nobody gets any of my money!
@@junepennystuart9388exactly.
I am a consultant and I do love the products but I have no desire to move up the ranks and fill my house with inventory. I am very part time. I do not have a sales personality and I do not think MLMs are for everyone. I do know people that are very successful all on their own separate from their team members. Like in any company there are bad eggs. I have heard the things that some have said to get people to sign up and it’s not good. Not all consultants are like that. I’m not. I am honest. The products have been awarded many times and they are ranked as the #1 best direct selling brand globally.
Me too. 26 yrs strong. I don't force people to buy or sell. If you want it ,I will sell it too you
My sister lost so much money when she started selling this crap. I believe it was about $10,000 and it was right after she left the US Army. Just another MLM nightmare.
That’s so much money 😩
So, my mom actually started selling Mary Kay after she left her executive position. My mom is a very intelligent woman. I think what stood out to her was that Mary Kay was a Christian company and the person that got her into it with someone she trusted. She also loved the fact that it was a female founded brand. But yes, she got a Mary Kay credit card and was convinced she had to buy all the inventory. She still has a s*** ton of inventory she has not sold. I will never not support her, but I'm sad that she fell into it
@@noprogressionisregression6854I went to one of their demonstrations and what really creeped me out was how it was set up like a church. It just felt so creepy. And their moisturizer gave me a chemical burn
That is sad.
They prey on military wives and ex military!
I’m old enough to have been invited so many “parties” just to find out when I got there that it was an MLM sales pitch: Amway, Herbalife, Mary Kay, Melaluca, Pampered Chef, Candle parties, etc. The most insulting part of those experiences was how the company convinced people I knew to monetize their friendships. Whenever that happened to me, I’d do everything I could to extricate myself from those “friendships.”
At least at the Pampers Chef parties we got snacks!! lol
That's the worst part. They destroy friendships. If ever you suddenly are contacted out of the blue by an old friend or acquaintance chances are they're trying to flog something like this. I also was invited to afternoon teas, girls afternoon with cocktails, and other faux social gatherings that suddenly turned into a sales pitch: essential oils, Intimo lingerie, Nutrimetics, Tupperware, scrapbooking, cookware, Omegatrend... I felt guilty if I didn't buy anything so usually just bought the cheapest thing. And then there's that awful pressure and guilt trip at the end for the consultant to book another 3 parties otherwise the host doesn't get her "free gift". I just don't go to those things anymore. It's a nightmare.
Yes, Yes, Yes! I so hated getting those "invitations". They basically came with the obligation to buy something you didn't want & usually never used. Thanks for the memories??? 😂
Whenever I get invited to a "party" by someone who hasn't talked to me in 10-15 years, I know it is an MLM pitch.
My mom did the candles I forget what they were called and also cheap jewelry with premier designs
I was HOUNDED by a MK “consultant” in 1987, when I was a poor , naive 18 year old- newly married college student. I eventually caved and took out a bank loan for $500 ($1300 in today’s $). Then, pressured to attend all these conferences, buy tons of “inventory’ (that I eventually had to donate). I HATED everything about it, and failed miserably, costing my family financial hardship. It’s a freaking CULT. Change my mind.
Same thing happened to my best friend just under a decade later than you. We had to call the police on the MK Rep the harassment was real!
@@Tiffany-ee8eo I wish I would’ve thought of that! It was bad. I had to change my number! And we lost so much money. It really set us back. I’m sorry for your friends experience.
Sounds like what I went through, college, newly wed and bought into the “spend $500 and you will make it….”Whatever…….
Why would anyone here want to change your mind?
@@mappickle2379 well, I was assuming there would be at least a few MK “huns” on here trolling that would have something to say about my comment.
Wait, Robert I'm screaming because that's me as one of the dancers at the Mary Kay Conventions!!! At 5:34 that's me on the right on the scaffolding under the word TEAM holding my beautiful flag 💀I did two summer gigs in Dallas with the production company they used to work with. It was honestly a really nice gig dance-wise- decent pay, not too crazy hours, they fed us on convention days, lots of down time, and I did it with a bunch of my friends from university. Hilarious that I did that gig considering how anti-MLM I am now. Once we got thru all the rehearsals and staging portion, they gave us a shit ton of skincare and makeup with different looks for each costume etc. and it was all HORRIBLE lolol I was like I though they were a makeup company?? I didn't put any of the skincare on my face, I ended up using my own foundation since the color match for my pale skin was so bad (it was all dark orange on me), and the eyeshadow and blush had NO payoff at all. Like it was a major struggle to make those eye looks work and actually look different from each other. Alsooo all the music had lyric changes that added in Mary Kay references and we had to learn the new lyrics and lip sync them while we danced lol. I RODE onto the stage on a PICKUP TRUCK in one dance and was a butterfly up in a harness in another like!! Those ladies were obsessed with us any time they ran into any of the cast. It all feels like a bit of a fever dream but I have the leftover Mary Kay products to remind me it was real.
Omg what a funny story! My uncle was neighbors with her at one point in the late 80s/early 90s. I can’t remember her house or anything because I was young but I do know there was a pink Cadillac.
I used a foundation from them for theater/dance a couple times and it’s SO orange oh my god. It was also glittery and streaky •_•
@@My_Melodyy2746 yes and somehow no coverage!
That's horrifying and fascinating at the same time.
I’m also glad to see I’m not the only one that thought their foundations were 🍊 man, so orange and sticky.
I was recruited when I was 19. I was really nervous to spend all the money upfront to buy my "stock," but my upline said they'd buy back anything I couldn't sell so that way I was guaranteed not to lose money.
After trying for nearly a year and selling three things, I said I was done and asked upline to make good on her promise to buy things back. She refused because the company was in the middle of changing all their packaging so everything I had wouldn't be sellable. I learned later that the company does this regularly so that consultants who are "garage qualified" like I was have to buy a whole new stock.
It took me more than a decade and thousands and thousands of dollars to dig myself out of the hole Mary Kay left me in. I was 19 and got talked into something that ruined my 20s and still has significant effects on me two decades later.
Ugh that's evil!
"Garahe qualified", what a perfect way to describe it!
Mary Kay should be sued into oblivion.
I sold my inventory back to the company and received a 90% refund.
I wish that had been an option when I joined!@@thomson872
i'll never forget trying to make friends in uni and was invited to one of these mary kay evenings with how to do your skincare and makeup. i purchased something because i felt like i had to and then from there the rep kept texting me for more purchases etc. there was a time she called me and i was on my way to go down to my grandads funeral and she was like "but you're not at the funeral yet, lets talk more about your next purchase!" i hung up and blocked her number.
Omg :(
Omg, that is so terrible! That is like the Paparazzi rep selling jewelry on TikTok while at a graveside funeral!
Wow crazy
I got sucked into Mary Kay when I was about 20. I was dying to be a makeup artist and thought it would be a great way to become one while making money on sales too. No surprise, once my friends and family bought all they were willing to I ran out of customers and I was nowhere closer to my goal of becoming a pro artist. All the new “friends” I made pretty much abandoned me as I pulled away from Mary Kay. Fast forward 5 years and I eventually DID become a makeup artist and have been doing it now for 7 years. And I just stay far away from MLM’s now.
Congratulations on becoming a makeup artist!
Marykay advices you to sell and recruit and not to just friends and family members And set goals and also results will vary
Former MK senior consultant here. No lies were featured in this video
LOL. “No MK consultants were harmed in the making of this video.” 😂
Hope you got out without much, if any, financial loss. 🤞🏻🫶🏼
I’m pleased to know you got out alive.
I did and do well. @francinejones2524
If a company ever describes themself as a family it’s a huge red flag. The company I work for did that and it was awful. Then we got a new boss and all the talk of “family” went away and now everyone is feeling so much better
I don't mind a job describing everyone as a team or something like that, but describing it as a family creeps me out
I hate the majority of my family members, so that’s definitely not the workplace for me.
In my experience, the F word mostly comes out from the employer when there is a union drive.
I had a job that called us all family and love bombed me when I started. After I'd been there over 6 months, I was old news and I didn't get anymore recognition of my work. They also said that sales were down so no one was getting raises (this ceo has plaques everywhere about how much money the company has made over the years)
For any company that uses “we are family”, there should be a policy that you can run out of the boardroom yelling “you’re not my real mom!” when they ask for something unreasonable
Robert, I love how you aren't afraid of saying "i don't know/I don't understand". I work at a university, where everyone thinks they're very smart... I mean, they probably are by some standards, but the amount of ego is insane. You'll never hear someone say they don't know something so openly and I'm also guilty of it. This just kind of hit me in the head. I guess there's this pressure of always knowing everything and if you don't then you have to either pretend you do or try to avoid the conversation. It was so refreshing to see you say "I just don't get what it means." and keep going, like that information isn't that important to you, which in reality it isn't.
Love all the content you've been giving us recently. 🖤🖤🖤
English is my second langue and the best tip I received is to never be afraid to tell ppl u don't understand something. And that mentality applied to so many other areas of my life. 😊
It’s so healthy and important to be comfortable saying “I don’t know”. I have so much respect for people who are willing to say they don’t have the answer(s), rather than make something up or avoid the question. I’ve been humiliated by so many doctors who refused to just say “unfortunately I don’t know what is the cause of what you’re going through, but I’ll do some testing/look into it/refer you to someone who might/i believe you/literally anything”. The amount of times doctors have said “it’s just anxiety” or seemed irritated that I came to see them because they were unsure 😩 meanwhile, I had a whole entire brain tumor.
@@LiterallyJustAnActualPotato oh dear, I hope you are okay. sending you love💝
The smartest people are the people always looking to learn more.
I'm convinced most of the world's problems would be fixed if everyone would admit when they're wrong, or that they don't know about something. Politics would be a non-entity. 😉 People would learn from each other, and we would have a compassionate civilization. Experts would be allowed to take charge, and work together to actually solve problems.
All my eyes focus on is how the neon sign is cut off... I love you Bert Elsh 😂❤
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Me too..hahaha
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I also have some nostalgia with Mary Kay. My mom didn't sell it, but she purchased the big suitcase size sales kit. It came with all shades & colors for full face make-up & a VHS on how to apply. She gifted it to me & I not only had the best make-up collection in the 90's but also was probably the only one who knew how to properly apply it.
My mom got roped into Mary Kay. So did my friends mom, and she got the pink car. Then nobody else in town could sell anything, cuz im from Juneau, Alaska, where there's no roads in/out, so we are very secluded. Then my mom did a jewelry MLM. I'm so glad she didn't get roped into more, she was so miserable during that time. It was after my parents divorce so she was on her own and she struggled so much. It was so hard to listen to her cry after every party she threw, because she was just giving away things and people weren't buying enough. It made me HATE MLM companies. I'm so glad there's an anti MLM community, I've followed Chelsea and Isabella for years now🫶
Me and my high school bestie were scenie wenies, i currently work for bobbi brown and she works for a mlm farmasi 🤣
Helllooooo! Yay you're doing Mary Kay! I lost some money to this MLM about 15 years ago. And I still know several people wrapped up in it.
oh my god I’m so sorry about that!
That’s so strange to me because I did Mary Kay too and I never lost a dime because they did not require me to place an order until a customer placed an order so I never kept stock. Therefore I never lost any money. I’m not really sure why anybody would win their policy is such that you don’t have to purchase any products until the customer orders. I used their make up so the only stock I kept was my own personal stock that was for me, but that’s not really stock that’s just like having make up backups and Skincare backups. But I never lost a penny, and I always find it strange when others say they did. I think that’s just not having a good mind for business if you lose money in Mary Kay.
@@ShaktiFlowwwwow
I sold Mary Kay starting around 1991. I hated every second of it because the woman who recruited me was so pushy. I quit about a year later just to get her out of my life!
This gives vibes of the “fundraisers” they had us do at school .. my mom always ended up buying most of the chocolate, they show u what u could win but all the actual nice stuff was nearly impossible for any child to do. “Win a trampoline , when you sell 50 boxes of chocolate “ like …I’m 10 you are literally having me go door to door (dangerous) & make 5000 sales? AGAIN IM 10!!!
I hate those school fundraisers. Putting kids in danger and promising them unattainable prizes. 🤬
@@DarkFire1536ikr the greed these ppl have to have to target literal kids and who are supposed to be studying
I remember this mess!
Ugh. I got recruited and sold MK from 2013-2015. It is so disheartening and so discouraging. I genuinely joined just to make like extra cash as a college student, and I was always at the bottom of my group because I refused to push products or try and recruit a downline. I'm so glad I got rid out and rid of it all. And while they're not the most expensive products to buy, there are so many other brands SO much better and cost-effective. Don't get sucked in for the "simple extra money"
Another bad thing is knowing at least some of your friends go to the parties and buy something out of friend obligation. I know I did.
@cherryfireice8216 Omg! I did the same thing! Just to support my friend! Matter of fact, I believe the makeup is still unopened in a "junk box" under my bathroom sink! Lol!
Mary Kay has a 100% guarantee. You can return it.
A friend and I were having brunch on the Queen Mary ship in Long Beach. We did not realize a Mary Kay convention was going on. It was an ocean of creepy Stepford wives in pink power suits. We got creeped out and left.
OMG! Was this many years ago by chance? I think I was there! 😂
At least 10 years ago @@cynthiafisher3392
You left because you were done eating
I'm a rep pushing 58, love the products, hate the business structure! I'm still in to keep the discount for self, give gifts and have the option to sell! No interest in pushy sales, begging for team members or a pink car! Your eye makeup is 🔥🔥🔥
I agree with you. If I make money, great, but the discount is very helpful. Also work a full-time job. Never do I want to be a pushy salesperson. Love the skincare too
There are a lot of nice ones too.
@@katebogle2305 Yes there are!
"Queen of the Universe" and "Lady Next Door" got me. 😂😂
Thank you for always making me laugh. ❤️
I was told I would be a perfect Mary Kay rep back in the 90s! I have NONE of the traits it takes to be an MLMer. My husband was like yeah you should do it! Meet new people! Ummmm, I don’t want to meet people. I don’t want to ask people to buy shitty makeup. I don’t want a pink car.
Right on girl! You are my kind of people 🫶🏼
Yessss lol 😂 hate meeting ppl too lol
When I worked in retail and had to meet a sales goal by like selling some new membership card or something it was an absolute nightmare. Not big on talking to new people but especially don't want to sell anything to them.
Mary Kay cosmetics is overpriced crap. She looked like a badly aging clown.
The skincare is excellent.
I tried to sell Mary Kay for less than a year. I had some stock, but no one ever wanted items I had on hand. My up-line called me asking to place an order so she could stay at the rank she was. I quit at that moment.
Absolutely! I lasted a couple of weeks and sold my kit at a yard sale. I tried to purchase replacement products as I had sold 300.00 that first week. I was told I had to buy through my supervisor. She would get the credit for the sales and not me. Well, that was the last thing I ever did. I told her it was a scam and I quit.
We were taught about MLMs in my business school, but we were taught about how bad it was and how it was something we should avoid at all costs.
My aunt got sucked in by that cult. My mom felt so bad that she gave her $600 to try to help her stay afloat. It never worked out and she ended up losing a lot of money and my mom was out a lot of money as well. Unfortunately, my aunt didn’t learn her lesson. She’s now selling Farmasi. In fact, she’s live on Facebook now 🤦🏻♀️
Sounds like my mum. She’s gone through at least 6 different MLMs She hasn’t done any in a while but still buys from her friends MLMs. She also lives on FB
What's Farmasi? I like to make sure I don't buy from MLM's.
@@hillarybeautifile another makeup MLM that honestly looks awful. I don’t know how successful they are since most people haven’t heard of them 😂
I was a Mary Kay lady for about a year in college. Lost a small amount of money, kind of got my heart broken, moved on to other things. Their skincare made my friends with sensitive skin break out in rashes and the other ladies I answered to kept saying that wasn't physically possible because the products were so pure.
This is exactly what happened to me in the late 90s early 2000s. The minute I stopped using the product, my skin went to hell! I had never had skin problems before Mary kay.
@@lesliewit they told us at one point that "if you're doing makeup for a bride, insist on seeing her months before her wedding because our products bring problems to a head and then fix them so you wouldn't want them causing acne right before her big day!" which is just nonsenses on so many levels. I think it was the foundation that was making everyone break out. It's THICK foundation. Like paint.
@@lesliewit ALSO, everyone who works with skin knows that nothing is 100% non-allergenic for everybody. Some people react to a hypoallergenic formula. But she kept saying it must be a coincidence because Mary Kay never breaks anybody out.
I used one of their moisturizers once and it gave me a chemical burn. The rep just told me was rubbing it into my face too rough.
I ordered skin care from Mary Kay about 5 years ago before I knew much about skin care and my skin had a terrible reaction. Idk why I thought it would be good skin products when the makeup is garbage lol lesson learned
Ugh I worked at a hotel where the pink ladies had their conventions. They always tried to recruit us & although there was no policy, I would tell them it was against hotel policy to get involved in their MLM. They'd says stuff like you can't be happy doing this job😂 yes yes even after 12 years I love the hotel industry with all it's craziness
You’re happy because you have the passion to clean other people mess! And that’s ok! 🤷♀️ Mary kay is not always for everybody!
But that doesn’t mean to believe all the lies this kind of person is talking. So, I think he’s resentful with the company because he can’t be a successful person. He looks more than a loser resent male. So, let’s see what’s Mary kay company says about this video.
@auroral.7156 Those are quite some assumptions. Yes I started as a room attendant while I was in college pursuing a degree to become a therapist. It is hard work please tip your room attendants or at least leave a thank you note or some snacks. I fell in love with the the hotel industry and didn't become a therapist. I've built a career I love and have amazing benefits/ retirement, my company serves it's community, and I have traveled to so many beautiful places. It does take passion for anyone in any industry to stay over a decade. I was approached by this person when I was a front desk manager. Money is important but sometimes what you enjoy doing for a living and a person's measure of success is not really about money it's the work culture and seeing the people you work alongside be successful and grow personally/ professionally. Hospitality is not for everyone like MLMs are not. Hope you have a beautiful day & a nice life 🌞 And BTW Robert and James are successful at what they do on their channels
MLM before people knew about MLM’s.
My niece is like the 2nd highest seller in Monet. She is a millionaire and has bought several homes, etc. She has HUNDREDS of people "under" her and none of them make money like she does. Even after watching her go from having no money to becoming wildly successful, I would still NEVER join an MLM, EVER. I hate what it does to people. I hate them period.
It’s wild. I’m always like how do these people “make it” in MLMs?!
@@vcr6854 It is wild. Her sister have both tried a million different MLMs and none of them worked out. She makes millions of dollars. I can't imagine though all that money riding on what others underneath you do. She owns homes and all the toys and RVs, boats, etc. That's a lot to pay for if the MLM goes belly up or your downline stops selling. I mean you risk that with any company of course but with an MLM the risk is way higher!
@@vcr6854be willing to sign people up knowing you'll be getting money from them in a time when they really shouldn't be spending money because they are broke.
@@vcr6854 They leave their morals and integrity at the MLM open door 😂
Mary Kay is a duo marketing plan. Most others are pyramids. Bad.
When I graduated from college in 1985, I started wearing Mary Kay makeup. I absolutely LOVED it. My skin loved the products, and I could work all day, and my makeup looked exactly like it did when I applied it. One of my friends was selling it, and she got the car etc. But, when Mary Kay died, the quality of the makeup dropped dramatically as far as I was concerned.... so I stopped using any of their products. I think the makeup is similar to Elf's, but so much more expensive!!
@Patti-1962, I sold MK in the mid 80’s. I actually made a nice bit of money. My director fell very ill at one conference,
she overheard a very high level man (If I remember correctly he was a relative of hers) say is that ‘Jane Doe’ person really as sick as she says she is? She was deeply hurt and I was very offended for her and angry. I got home and sent back all of my inventory and never looked back. I DO agree once MK passed the quality began to suffer, as my friends that stayed would tell me.
But now that I’m older I certainly realize the MLM structure and how its sole purpose is to make the upper echelons richer.
@@vickiecoles8214I've noticed a few luxury brands where the quality suffers after the founder passes. Vivienne Westwood is a recent example!
The hand cream kit was the best I have ever used, and she had great packaging, I still have some of my pallets.
@@ccrgrl agree, Satin Hands is amazing! And the only MK purchase I ever make. One of my coworkers aunt still sells it so I’ll have her get some for me.
@@ccrgrl AGREE!!!!
In Brazil Mary Kay is much more appreciated than Avon, Avon is for the poor, Mary Kay is not, basically.
Both are worth far less than they’re sold for.
I mean I have to agree that Avon products are trash and I personally feel Mary Kay products are actually pretty decent. At least their skin Care is not bad. Their products got me into skin care and now I'm 45 and look 30.
Agree, Avon is complete crap. At least Mary Kay in the 80s was good makeup.
@@noprogressionisregression6854 the same.
@@barbara9315 Mary Kay is much more expensive than Avon (in Brazil). But I agree, they are not worthy.
Omg I was LITERALLY bullied into becoming a consultant when I was 18. I had no capacity to sell anything. I was super shy and said no a bunch of times. My friends old sister was so insistent. When I told my friend I really didn't want to do it he was like "How dare you. My sister is so excited about this and trying to have her own business. She will be so disappointed if you don't. You can't just say no". Like, really angry.
It ended up costing me a bunch of money and I hated it.
Eventually moved interstate and never answered the recruiter calls again.
I was a rep and kept plugging along for years recruiting people etc. I didn’t really make much, my recruiters stopped selling, I felt brainwashed into talking up Mary Kay all the time. I finally realized I didn’t even like many of their products! I quit and sold back my product at 60% of what I paid for it. What a relief!
I love that you’re speaking on MLMs and spreading awareness on these toxic scams. Videos like this help people NOT get recruited!
Love seeing a creator use their influence for good ❤
Not a scam
Oh I remember Mary Kay, it was my mom's introduction to beauty/skincare while I was getting into make up and k beauty skincare. I remember her being offered a cleanser for 42 dollars as I was looking at the face shop rice cleanser 2 piece set for 18 dollars. It's wild how much of a scam Mary Kay is. I'm so glad I showed her better brands.
My poor mother was HARRASED so badly by these people. They called the cops on her and got sued over her not selling the products she was supposed to and she told them I can’t do this and tried giving them back but they wouldn’t take it 🤦🏻♀️
What??? How insane. I was a rep in Brooklyn, NY for 5 years. It's very cult like. I quit in 2008, but never heard of anything like this happening. Sorry your mom went through this.
@@blueelf217I don't understand..........
My parents were in several MLMs and even used my identity to sign up for spots when I was under 18. They were even featured in a magazine (a photoshoot I was intentionally absent for!) and even have weird pics with Dr. Oz from events. Spent many silent dinners with a MLM call on speaker phone for us all to hear even when I was an adult. MLMs ruin families, relationships and lives. I'm chronically ill and disabled - the amount of products I've been pitched that would cure my incurable illnesses is wild... from family, friends and strangers. All the while my parents couldn't afford the mortgage and my mother had to go back to work after 15+ years at home (not even raising me - she wasn't maternal - I raised myself) while they had an actual business to run. They could have put time, money and energy into their real business but it all went into the idea of success and MLM events and parties while they were financially struggling and close to losing their home. I have many MLM horror stories and got sucked into them as well but got out when I was 17. MLMs are horrible.
I'm not selling anything. Just wondering if you have ever been referred to an allergist doctor, by your family Doctor. Allergic reactions can create havic on a person's body. If you do get tested, read up on your allergin, learn it's names/ biproduct names. Avoid buying products with those allergins in the ingredient list. 2nd. Ask for a blood test to be done, to see what vitamins your body is low on. Take tjose specific vitamins daily. This will help with hair loss, depression, anxiety, aches & pains, Bloating, Energy levels, and much more. I hope you find what is ailing you. 💕
Thank you for covering this, Robert. I was an “independent beauty consultant” on and off three times before I really understood just how toxic it was. And it was only a few weeks ago when it dawned on me I was in a cult. I’m glad you got through it quickly yet accurately, and that I was able to watch the whole thing without going into hysterics.
So glad you got out of that toxicity!
This was great Robert. I am embarrassed to say I was subject to this scheme in the 90’s. It was a low time of my life. I went to Dallas and got to meet Mary Kay I had a good time. At this time I had my own salon and was able to sell the product in the salon. It fizzled out and was a horrible experience. I hope you videos exposing these MLM Pyramid companies and save people from the misery. The only people that gain from this are the very early investors. That being said Robert you look fabulous today. That eye look is amazing with your brown eyes ♥️☮️🖤
I live in the uk, I’ve never heard of her and don’t know much about MLMs except they are bad news, sounds to me like a lot of ppl got stuck in these creepy culty awful things and you are not alone and certainly shouldn’t be embarrassed for trusting people ❤
@@clairehawkes1112 you’re right but I think I always give some people more credit than they deserve which is why I now have trust issues 😢
Robert’s Mary Kay ranks made me cackle so aggressively I choked on the bagel I was eating. For future reference, here are the tiers you can aspire to as an MK consultant. 😂
1. Lady Next Door
2. Diamond Princess
3. Queen of the Universe
Bought some MK products from an acquaintance to support her. She asked people to come to her final consultant training on Zoom, which we were told was to provide feedback for her and her trainer. When we logged on, it turned out to be a 60-minute pitch for MK and they tried to recruit all of us to my acquaintance's sales team atthe end. You could see from everyone's faces how uncomfortable we all felt when all of a sudden it turned into a "will YOU support your friend and help her grow her business?" guilt trip attempt. None of us signed up, of course, and the whole thing ended awkwardly.
THANK YOU!!!!! I was apart of this commercial cult otherwise known as an MLM and I’m SO glad I got out when I did. This company is super predatory. Thank you for bringing awareness to topics like these! I appreciate it more than you’ll ever know! I am now in school to teach yoga and I have an Etsy shop where I sell my handmade items so I’m getting closer to ACTUALLY owning my own business one day. ❤ much love & light!
As a member of the British Compact Collectors Society and a collector myself of vintage cosmetics I’ve read many books on the subject. Mary Kay, Oriflame etc are mlms but people forget that Avon is also an mlm! Very successful and yet the perks are very poor. Their target market? At home mothers. Sadly most of these woman end up out of pocket and in debt because of these companies. The more they are shown for what they are the quicker woman will get wise to them. Well done for highlighting them.
I love listening to memoirs on audiobook, and two I've listened to recently were "Hey, Hun," by Emily Lynn Paulson, about her experience reaching a high level in an MLM, and "Leaving the Witness," by Amber Scorah, about her experience of being in and leaving the Jehovah's Witnesses. Though the worlds surrounding these cult experiences are very different, they bear many striking similarities and I'd recommend both books for a deeper dive. Great video as always, Robert!
I got roped into MK when I was young and put a ton of money on a credit card buying a “starter”sales kit with some of each of the makeups and skincare that were out at the time so I had things to sample and preview/display whatever.and never sold one thing, and then they hounded me for years for not coming back to them. They were also super conservative and religious at our sales meetings. They opened every sales person meeting with Prayer and tried to insist I participate, even as a different religion. All sales ladies were expected to dress a certain way, mostly just in black, and no pants, skirts or dresses only, depending on your rank you could wear certain colors or prints. You had to wear heels. And they wanted us to only wear pearls or gold jewelry. And they said they “had” to be real gold or pearls because we couldn’t be going around to clients looking cheap. You were expected to always have on makeup. At all times. Even if you were just running errands. This was emphasized at multiple meetings I went to. Yeah. Their whole thing was awful.
This sounds somewhat familiar........
@@miriamhavard7621 I’m sure I’m not the only one that’s been thru this so probably
I recently got into anti MLM content,it cropped up on my algorithm after watching true crime creators weirdly…and it’s fascinating! It’s mad how people get sucked into the craziness of it all and some of the negative affects it has on their relationships etc, More MLM content please Roberto! 😊
Probably due to one of the Peterson's case. A few wife killers with that name, don't know why. It's also how I found Savannah etc. xD.
Robert dragging Mary Kay is the gift I didn’t know I needed today 😭
I used to sell Mary Kay. The one thing that turned me off from it was when I kept coming up with ideas to sell products through different websites and social media platforms. EVERYONE kept telling me, "that's not how we do it." I'd suggest comparing MK products with drugstore products, and they'd throw a hissy fit about it because we should only have MK products in our homes. Basically if you weren't a high up representative, don't even think about coming up with new ideas to sell their products. It's like they were holding you back while also saying you need to shoot for the stars.
I've never used Mary Kay Cosmetics because it always seemed like it was for grandmas. That eye look is gorgeous!!
The worst part of scams is that it sucks in everyone even if they're considered "smart" its really unfortunate that MLMs prey on people
Robert love these videos!! One of the ways you get recruited is they tell you “hey you are already spending $90 if you join us you can get the products you want in this opening package for only $55 and anything additional you get a a great discount.”Then they convince you how easy it is to sell it. Thanks for these informative videos!!
So do you buy upfront and then sell it?
@@clairehawkes1112usually yes but some might be different. You usually pay for a package of sales materials and some makeup/skin care (in this case).
I love knowing that your brother edits your videos, because when moments like you scratching your armpit of flubbing your words happen I know he left them in on purpose :')
The way they target the latino community makes me so mad. People dont think its an mlm because they've been around forever!
Every time one of them says my business I roll my eyes. The eye roll has become a default setting for my brain! 😆
My business
🙄
It can no longer be controlled so if one of them is standing in front of me and drops that line they’ll suddenly discover I’ll never be recruited and I’m the enemy
I'm genuinely surprised they're still in business
For context, the initial "small" investment of $5,000 in 1963 is equivalent to about $50,000 today.
That's an awfully low return
You are spot and on!! I got tricked into going to a Mary Kay cult meeting. When I tell you that these women were scary, I mean SCARY!
Omg. When I was in college I went to a Mary Kay party. I was recruited. The recruiters boss got me on the phone, and basically tried to bully me to take out a 10 grand loan. I thought I could just make a couple of non committal bucks on the side. Even when you go the route without the inventory, you still have to purchase x amount to be considered a consultant. Gives me anxiety thinking about it.
Girl I got wrapped up in this mess MULTIPLE times 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️ I'm glad that I finally got out of it and haven't looked back. Such awful, predatory practices 😞
Girl???🙄
One of my aunts went into credit card debt for buying tons of products she never sold. The way they brainwashed women with the hopes of driving the pink Cadillac is insane. I think we can all say we know someone who got sucked into this MLM
As a grown-up girl, Mary Kay throughout the 80s and 90s was everything!
Beautiful products, beautiful, packaging, and so much fun .. it was like having Sephora inside your house.
The Mary Kay building in Dallas is straight out of the 1970s/80s. You can’t help but imagine ladies in 80s power suits and big hair walking around inside 😂
I remember my sister in-law pushing this on me. It was like I could almost not say no to get sucked in. I finally had to be point blank NO. She was always ice cold after that. Over Mary Kay crap. lol
Former, and very briefly, an MK consultant. If you do what you have to do to get to these “exalted” levels, kiss your husband, kids, family and friends goodbye. Your husband and kids will never see you and the rest of your family and friends will hide from you. However, I did love their makeup remover. Never found anything to compare to it.
That music over the MLM seminar footage was *chef's kiss*
Kristen Dunst was in ths amazing TV series 'On becoming God in Central Florida' playing a wife of an MLM salesman who becomes widowed, realises she is broke and goes on to get revenge on the MLM company it's really good. Feels like your kind of vibe.
Oh, that sounds so fun!
My grandma and aunt were in Mary Kay when I was around 8. They ended up buying tons of product sample bundles to use at parties, spent a shitload of money, and then never made their money back. The ended up giving me a couple boxes full of makeup products to play with, and that's how I got into makeup. To this day I still love makeup so much and have a very beautiful, curated collection. MLMs are terrible and predatory, and I'm glad my aunt and grandma were only in long enough to get me a bunch of play makeup and didn't go into debt over it. lol
The main rep in our town started selling full time when her husband injured his back and could no longer work, they had a couple kids too. She has her own little building where she does parties and has the pink caddy. While I despise MLM’s, this woman is wonderful and it’s been the best way for her to support her family.
I am glad that you made this video and mentioned a study from Harvard. I was reached out by somebody who I used to know trying to invite me for a pampered chef party and I told him that I don’t support MLM‘s recently. Definitely wanna share this video. Also, Mary Kay make up is what got me to no longer support. MLM‘s, since I know what’s better at the drugstore and prestige make up.
On your last point, not only would I never jump in defending my non-MLM employer in the comments of anything, we're actually not ALLOWED to wade into that sort of thing. They want the social media team dealing with that messaging, not random employees.
My mom has sold MK since the 90s. She’s never made significant money but she’s SPENT thousands. I used to love their eye makeup remover until I stopped using it and my eyelashes STOPPED FALLING OUT. It’s a predatory scam.
I remember when a lady approached me at the store about having a Mary Kay makeover. I was too nice back then and said ok. After she did my makeup she was so pleased with herself. I think I purchased some clear lips gloss and a blush. When she dropped the product off the next day she asked me how my husband liked my new look. I told her he loved it. I didn’t have the heart to tell her I actually knew how to apply makeup and she had just caught me on a gym day. I can still remember the feeling that she was kind of desperate for a sale and needing new clients. It really opened my eyes to the pressure they were under to sell.
My MIL was suckered into trying to sell Mary Kay sometime back in the early/mid 90’s. She ended up being stuck with a *bunch* of inventory, when she went through a drawn out divorce and subsequently stopped selling.
I eventually tried several of the products (at zero cost - she invited me to go through and take what a wanted) and I can honestly state that NONE of the MK cosmetics/products it tried were worth a damn.
I swear back in the day everybody and their Grandma sold Mary Kay and not ONE person ever got that pink car!!!!!!
I saw lots of MK cars in Brooklyn, NY. It's very popular with Caribbean and Latino women. I had lots of clients, but quit when I didn't want to recruit them, and hated the pressure from top directors. Very cult like.
In America during the 80’s Mary Kay was huge. It’s crazy that they are still in business.
Their "people" being independent consultants is bad also, they don't get any real benefits. 60 Minutes did a story about a lady who lost everything because she got real sick and got no support of any kind from Mary Kay. She got nothing because she was an independent consultant and they received, at the time the story was done, no insurance.
Horrible.
As a Black woman Mary Kay parties scarred me. They never had my shade range! Always had me looking casket ready and ugly. Gave me anxiety about buying something. Would depress me in high school. I'm 42 and still scared to let anyone do my makeup!
The EXACT reason I never paid it any real attention.
I'll never forget pulling up to a PF Chang's in Dallas on a work trip and seeing way too many pink cars in the lot. Two of us from rural America both pulled back a bit before going in, we were whispering to each other, "are they a cult?" because there were like 100 pink ladies in the restaurant. Ofc MK is sold in rural areas (and it's considered high end, bless em), but no one ever succeeds and neither of us had seen a MK convention before. Our March of Dimes conventions were a little heavy handed too, but we never dressed alike and we were actually doing productive things for society.
When I was in high school my mom tried to get into Mary Kay because a lady from the church we used to attend was wanting to recruit my mom. I tried some of the products that my mom bought and they weren't good at all. My mom went to a few Mary Kay events but it was too pricey for her to keep up with and when she told the lady from our church that she was backing out the lady looked at my mom in disgust and never spoke to my mom again.
I was moving pretty quickly through Mary Kay, close to getting my own car. It was A LOT of work. I kept pushing though, but finally, I just had enough. Nothing bad really happened, I just opened my eyes and quietly left. I was spending more money than I was making. It just wasn't worth it. Plus, people stopped buying from me because you have other Mary Kay reps selling their products at a discount.
Yes, they tell you that you don't need inventory, but they definitely push you to get it.
I had a Mary Kay rep try to recruit me when I was like 18/19 and my mom, who worked at the Chanel makeup counter for 15 years, was literally like “you should do it”
All those MLM's take advantage of people
My diet is actually an MLM, however, it really works. I've lost 125 lbs. and am at my goal weight. I had one coach who used to try to recruit me so I got a different coach.
The diet industry in general takes advantage of people
I had a Mary Kay rep come to my apt, to sell me on the product/sales etc. I liked the book as it had good points on how to do make up for face shapes etc, and I still have a lip brush that still works like a dream, and thought their refillable compacts were great. ( this was back in 1983) what really pissed me off was she told me that in order to get ahead and be somebody (her words!!) I really ought to try dressing better... mind you, I had been on my own for over 3 yrs, had my own apt, was employed and was really into alternative anything make up- and was goth/punk before it really hit hard in the US. I looked just fricken fine so..showed her the door. And well, 41 yrs later I am still fricken fine. Thank you Robert, great video!!!!
Every single woman that I ever saw that had one of those pink cars wasn't a nice person. They always walked as if they were better than you. You couldn't talk to them without hearing about Mary Kay and if you said you weren't interested they would immediately stkp talking to you.
Please stop with the generalization. Not true. My sister drives a pink Cadillac and she one of the sweetest person I know. She does not stop talking someone because they weren’t interested in MK.
@@lizettemuna3234 I said, every single woman that I, key word I, saw wasn't nice. I've never seen a woman who drove one be a nice person ever. I'm speaking from my personal experience.
I hope they updated there makeup products because 10 years ago the make up was so not it.
@@lizettemuna3234same here I grew up with some family members driving pink Cadillacs & they were all very sweet & caring. Never pushy at all, more on the humble side and wanting people feel better.
@@elainakate2005 🙏🏾♥️
Mary Kay is probably the most infamous mlm that no one knew was an mlm
Your ranking examples sent me "lady next door" 😂😂👏👏💘 great video
When I graduated high school, my aunt gave me a bunch of Mary Kay make up. I thought I was living the high luxury life. Then came the party request lol.
I'm a rep.....but only for myself. My director doesn't bother me at all. I told her straight up that I'm only becoming a rep to get product at a discount. She was ok with that. I'm pushing 50, I don't need, nor want, all that headache of pushy sales. So far, it's worked out great. My pocket book is happy, my skin is happy, and I'm happy.
Yesss my mom is too. I’m 37 and have used the skin care and eye make up remover since high school and love it. The eye makeup remover is the best I have ever used, especially for water proof mascara. I have back ups of the setting spray. I get more every Christmas and always excited!
I remember when the "Mary Kay tests on animals" story got really big. That, to me, was the death of Mary Kay.
My now 70yo mom has used MK my whole life. I even tried to get her to use Jordan Samuel skincare but she went back to that cold cream and moisturizer
out of curiosity, how is her skin?
My mom warned me about MK and Avon and pyramid schemes back when I was little. I think our neighbor must have been selling one of them. There was also tupperware and a basket company that were big when I was a kid, but now there's sooooo many more of these. My friend got sucked into some makeup mlm that I'd never even heard of before.
This company has ruined my childhood. My mom basically has become a hoarder for useless products. It’s truly awful how they target specific demographics.
My mom used this makeup for yeeeaaarrrs. She got my first makeup set from there. Awful awful eyeshadow. I only recently convinced her to stop using their creams and just buy drugstore.
oh man, my aunt has been a mary kay consultant for DECADES. she goes to the big conference in dallas, texas every year. her house is filled with thousands upon thousands of dollars of unsold products because she only has like five people that actively buy from her. oh, and I always get mary kay products that I do not want or need from her every christmas because she just refuses to just me gift cards or cash . 🥴
My mom got sucked into Mary Kay back in the 90s, the MLM businesses pretty much target young stay at home moms, especially in the military. Mary Kay, Pampered Chef, Avon, all the wives took turns holding parties selling each other stuff. She never made money, never got to go to the conferences, and couldn't sell her remaining products back. She got super lucky that our moving van caught fire when going to a new duty station and she lost all her product and was able to make an insurance claim to get her money back.
Good!!
You can return the products if you give up, they buy it back at 90%
Gosh I remember this company when I was a young girl. My mom use to host these parties for a friend once a year. They would give you this plastic tray that had sections in it and in the sections were small amounts of their skin care and makeup. The representative would get you to apply each one step by step while trying to get you soooo interested in each product. And tell you how important it was to use each of these products together. How sad. I love these videos please keep on doing them. ♥️