Thanks for this. Those curious about the foam edge, go to 11:10. This makes calling it a 10x12 feel like false marketing. Yes it's technically a 10x12 but it's ballistic properties are only 9x11...or 8x10 if it's really a 1 inch border all around.
This is very true, and this highlights why we do the tear downs now. If companies are honest and transparent up front, that's up to us the buyer to make that call :D But being shady claiming you have the world's lightest plate (SHotStop) for level IV and there's over 1.5" of foam on each side, and then making disinformation videos to say your plates don't have foam when they do is the problem :D
Channel deserves more subs/views. Really Armor and your videos on lapua/300WM/BMG and a lot of internet posts on prepping got me into firearms when I was 17.
Unexpectedly, after three years of extreme humidity, the performance is still stable, which is beyond my opinion of the outer fabric. I don’t know how it will perform in the same environment with or without Kevlar material.
I have a set, they're cheaper than RMA 1155's and about 2lbs lighter per plate, however they don't have an NIJ cert or edge to edge coverage. Not bad for the money though as long as you understand what you're getting. I use them as my "beater" armor to run around LARPing and training at the range. I have 1155's that I baby and keep out of the elements in case of a bad day, I want them to stay fresh beyond the warranty.
Hey buffman, love the videos! Well made and show us all exactly what we need to know! Could we get a video on safe life plates in their soft 3a carrier? They claim it makes it level IV protection
@@BuffRANGE I believe they claim that by placing the level IV ICW plate inside their 3a soft carrier it equates to level IV protection capable of stopping 30-06 AP
@@ArcOfficialYT Yep that's typically how it works. Truth be told that plate is effectively the same quality as what's seen here. Not great, but it works. You'd be far better off spending money on a lot better plates. But I could at some point see about getting one from Nick at SafeLife.
For 120 per plate and bring china made, these did remarkably well. Is this an issue with warranty since they failed before the 5 year shelf life? I thought the 5 year life was for the worst of the worst conditions
Well the question would come into play, what that warranty entails. None of the plates failed to meet the NIJ spec of 1 single M2AP hit COM at 2,880fps. The water one did fail that shot, but the company could easily argue that the V50 of the plates rating was exceeded by 100 fps, so all bets are off.
Please do a ballistic test of 300 blackout subsonic vs a level IIIA soft body armor vest or panel. There are no videos on TH-cam doing a proper evaluation of this. They are all mixed. I'm pretty sure the round will be stopped but will come close to penetrating in some cases. It would be really interesting to see. I'd subscribe if you would take up my comment, thanks!
Subbed. Hey, I heard that the new pistol cartridge 7.5fk AP ammo can penetrate level IV plates. I don't believe it myself but check out what the designers claim. Maybe one day if you could get a hold of it you could prove or disprove their claims. m.th-cam.com/video/tJ61CkKJ6QM/w-d-xo.html&pp=ygUcNy41ZmsgYW1tbyB2cyBsZXZlbCBJViBwbGF0ZQ%3D%3D
@@BuffRANGE you'd just have to aim for the second as the first ones so close it wont really matter , i thought ceramic frag is the only issue, you'd get to see the difference between really slippy rounds vs terrible bc rounds. Type of ftlb are coming from the ceramic? Enough to break the crono?
I would say no. Only from the fact that the quality of construction of the plate remains budget oriented. They work, and I'd recommend them all day over STEEL, but Highcom, RMA, offer budget plates for not much more that I feel have more quality in mind :D
Been waiting for this for 3 years! Absolutely amazing commitment to your craft, awesome work.
Thanks a lot!
BUFFMAN is the king of dry humor!!! Other YT channels wish they had his sense of humor. Solid data + dry humor = deep wit.
Gonna disagree and say Paul Harris is the king of dry humor. Matt is funny,like the uncle Roger fire joke.
Videos like these always have me drooling over your stockpile of AP ammo
Wow, that is insanely impressive for the conditions it was in!
Only thing I don't like is that foam ring but it is noted in the product description.
That's a big thing that I like that they are open about disclosing. A lot of places don't..
This is why you're the king!
Thanks for this. Those curious about the foam edge, go to 11:10. This makes calling it a 10x12 feel like false marketing. Yes it's technically a 10x12 but it's ballistic properties are only 9x11...or 8x10 if it's really a 1 inch border all around.
This is very true, and this highlights why we do the tear downs now. If companies are honest and transparent up front, that's up to us the buyer to make that call :D But being shady claiming you have the world's lightest plate (SHotStop) for level IV and there's over 1.5" of foam on each side, and then making disinformation videos to say your plates don't have foam when they do is the problem :D
Channel deserves more subs/views. Really Armor and your videos on lapua/300WM/BMG and a lot of internet posts on prepping got me into firearms when I was 17.
Thank you very kindly!
Ohh man you got the 22 creed going awesome
Unexpectedly, after three years of extreme humidity, the performance is still stable, which is beyond my opinion of the outer fabric. I don’t know how it will perform in the same environment with or without Kevlar material.
You should contact that one company that’s making that 21 inch barrel and see if they’ll make you a 26 or 28 inch
A lot of 22CM are 24-26", so we can keep climbing in velocity.
Those plates seem really good fornthe price point. I may have to pick some up.
I have a set, they're cheaper than RMA 1155's and about 2lbs lighter per plate, however they don't have an NIJ cert or edge to edge coverage. Not bad for the money though as long as you understand what you're getting. I use them as my "beater" armor to run around LARPing and training at the range. I have 1155's that I baby and keep out of the elements in case of a bad day, I want them to stay fresh beyond the warranty.
Hey buffman, love the videos! Well made and show us all exactly what we need to know!
Could we get a video on safe life plates in their soft 3a carrier? They claim it makes it level IV protection
Their Level IV ICW plate?
@@BuffRANGE I believe they claim that by placing the level IV ICW plate inside their 3a soft carrier it equates to level IV protection capable of stopping 30-06 AP
@@ArcOfficialYT Yep that's typically how it works. Truth be told that plate is effectively the same quality as what's seen here. Not great, but it works. You'd be far better off spending money on a lot better plates. But I could at some point see about getting one from Nick at SafeLife.
For 120 per plate and bring china made, these did remarkably well. Is this an issue with warranty since they failed before the 5 year shelf life? I thought the 5 year life was for the worst of the worst conditions
Well the question would come into play, what that warranty entails. None of the plates failed to meet the NIJ spec of 1 single M2AP hit COM at 2,880fps. The water one did fail that shot, but the company could easily argue that the V50 of the plates rating was exceeded by 100 fps, so all bets are off.
Excellent video! Love your content. I use the same plates.
Awesome! Thank you!
Hey I’m still gonna store my body armor in swamps. No one’s gonna steal it!!!
Is the LA Police Gear's 10x12 really 8x10 due to the "1 inch partial foam edge"?
Yes the strike face is covering around 8"x10" or thereabouts of the actual plate dimensions.
Please do a ballistic test of 300 blackout subsonic vs a level IIIA soft body armor vest or panel. There are no videos on TH-cam doing a proper evaluation of this. They are all mixed. I'm pretty sure the round will be stopped but will come close to penetrating in some cases. It would be really interesting to see. I'd subscribe if you would take up my comment, thanks!
300 BLK subs don't generally penetrate. maybe a copper solid but FMJ >
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Subbed. Hey, I heard that the new pistol cartridge 7.5fk AP ammo can penetrate level IV plates. I don't believe it myself but check out what the designers claim. Maybe one day if you could get a hold of it you could prove or disprove their claims. m.th-cam.com/video/tJ61CkKJ6QM/w-d-xo.html&pp=ygUcNy41ZmsgYW1tbyB2cyBsZXZlbCBJViBwbGF0ZQ%3D%3D
put a 2nd crono 90% the distance to give a close to impact velocity and we'll all learn how much 45ft of open space differs from muzzle .
Making those shots hit both chrono's is going to be a LOT of chance. You're losing probably less than 30 fps from muzzle to 45'..
@@BuffRANGE you'd just have to aim for the second as the first ones so close it wont really matter , i thought ceramic frag is the only issue, you'd get to see the difference between really slippy rounds vs terrible bc rounds.
Type of ftlb are coming from the ceramic? Enough to break the crono?
@@TheCraigy83 Ceramic frag would only pepper it. Maybe if we can get one of the new Xero C1 Pro, we can use the standard chrono for up close :D
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Bruh, think.
Math.
Looking at the plate performance under those conditions, has your rating them at the bottom for use ability changed?
I would say no. Only from the fact that the quality of construction of the plate remains budget oriented. They work, and I'd recommend them all day over STEEL, but Highcom, RMA, offer budget plates for not much more that I feel have more quality in mind :D
Great job! 🏆
Thanks bruddah!💪
You are most welcome!
Mr. Buff, sir,
How about speckling in some 3A tests one day?
PizzA
I have safelife defense hyperline 3a to test this year. I try to wait for warmer weather since BFD is more crucial on soft.
@@BuffRANGE #hero
some real magic
If you believe in Magic....
What video does that uncle Roger clip come from I’ve been trying to find it.😂😂😂
Right here ! th-cam.com/video/k9bJXXCmCYM/w-d-xo.html
Me gusta mucho tu canal
Thank you very much!
I want you to do a video on exactly how much gets shot’ at an angle would actually help you??? I’m so sick of 0 degrees!!!
Sorry, this is worst case. Maybe at somepoint I may try 45°
@@BuffRANGE I get it I just had too…
Sir, please try with 308 slap round.
308 slap would laugh at these plates.
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Thanks again for stopping by Mike !
Put one in the trunk of a car next time!!
RoaR
And sig fury supposed to defeat body armor?? 😂😂😂
In the AP variants yes.. Supposedly...
@@BuffRANGE can’t wait for you to find out for us!
nice/sweden
I missed this live how !? Nooooo!!! Years in wait 🥲! Lol