Energetic Polymers and PVN - Explosions&Fire
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- In this video we ask why energetic compounds aren't often polymers, and also almonds. We also make some polyvinyl nitrate and compare it to 'the chad of the energetics world'.
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Ok so what are descriptions good for? That's right, bonus content. Because if you made it this far, you deserve to be rewarded. And by rewarded I mean... disappointed.
This bonus content will help to answer what I perceive as the most important questions you will have after watching this video.
Q) How long did you stare in regret at the experiment you ruined?
A) A while. • staring in regret at t...
Q) Hey, so you poured some potassium chlorate into a cardboard tube, some of it ignited but the rest of it did not.
A) That's actually more of a comment, but yes, I did blowtorch the ever-living h*ck out of that tube until the chlorate took off, because of s*fety • torching a cardboard t...
Q) How much of your free time on a weekend did you spend blow torching an almond that you could have just ate?
A) The perfect amount. • me watching an almond ...
I actually bought that bag of almonds specifically to film that shot without any justification and they were more expensive than any of the reagents in this video. They are delicious but they goddamn keep getting stuck in my braces and my only revenge is with a blowtorch (like any rational man). - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
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@@its_robbietime1333 ba dum tshhh
thats the epitome of every aussie post
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Matthew Sonn ikr with more memes
Macencheez and some a e s t h e t i c s
@@AJarOfYams yass
Matthew Sonner
A: 200’th like B: excellent comment
Spot on actually
“Cellulose doesn’t just grow on trees, trees grow on cellulose”
Brilliant
If a tree grows on another tree, however...
@@heavystalin2419 that's grafting
And lignin, that's important
you chould rename your channel to exponential gas expansion&warmth for monetisation
nitrogen molestation means nope for monetisation
Koekie C0nTr0L it wouldn’t matter he swears too much for TH-cam to consider it
Exponential gas expansion and warmth sounds like a thread you would find on /d/
@@jerrypie2792 Late to the party but here's your (you), you deserve this.
@@yannyy5216 sage
Disclaimer: dont actually throw the sulfuric acid out the window
Through it in you lab partners face since it had no business being under the fume anyway.
Depends who’s outside at the time
What if I want to permanently mow my lawn?
Throw it in the ocean. Nature’s bin!
as a fireworks manufacturer, i really enjoy your shows :) if you ever want to make things go bang, im fully licensed in victoria :)
Glad to see you getting back into the energetic side of chemistry again.
I never leave energetics! They're too good. It just takes me forever to make a clip about them
make HMX or some other high perf explosive like TKX-50 or TENGU, none of these require extreme procedures
@@ExplosionsAndFire ive read that it is possible to dissolve nitrocellulose in nitroglycerin for even more kaboom
@@blockstacker5614 Well that doesn't sound irresponsible at all.
Well it is supposedly harder to set off than pure nitroglycerin im pretty sure
*spills a bit of vodka and lights it up on fire as a 10 years old child*
*I also dabled in chemistry*
Edas Sereda true fucking Slav
I burnt myself burning the vapors in a 94% ethanol bottle. Makes a small blue jet. And it burns through the epiderm so it does not show but your nerves are telling you NO.
@@MmeHyraelle did that
@@MmeHyraelle no one said to stick your arm in, stupid.
Actually, that perfectly sums up this video: NUT-NUT-NUT-NUT-NUT-NUT-NUT-NUT-NUT-NUT!
Seriously, you managed to be informative and professional, whilst still being incredibly entertaining and keeping your unique style. Great Job!
I was also very glad to see that I'm not the only human on Earth to have such bad luck in the lab. (This sounds really mean but I honestly don't mean it to be!)
Sometimes it really does feel like I am simply unworthy to be in the lab at all, because the chem-gods keep punishing me in the most impossibly sadistic ways...
chemistry is a cruel mistress. Sometimes all your efforts just go unrewarded, its not a reflection on you, its just how science be like that
@@ExplosionsAndFire; Oh no I didn't mean anything remotely as noble as that.
I meant stuff like chucking things and having them bounce into your flasks. Worse still, I was also *THAT GUY* in uni; while trying to work up a reaction late one night when I was still an undergrad, I even did the unthinkable (yes I am ashamed to admit it); I left the stopcock open when I went to add my gravitationally chromatographed concentrate back into the sep-funnel...
Still, thank you for your kind words of encouragement!
I have always been more at home with the theoretical side of things, although I absolutely love practically doing the reactions myself (go figure!).
Personally, the ultimate reward for me comes from finally isolating a weighable amount of pure crystals from an initially intractable brown mass.
[nut]-[nut]-[nut]-[nut]
@@ExplosionsAndFire they think it don't be like that, but it do... Black Science Man (2012)
@@MrGoatflakes noodlegrass tycoon
>joke about impregnation
>De-money-tized
So as you can see, the carbon powder has been impre- *cough cough* uh imbued with palladium metal.
I love working with red fuming nitric acid at work, the ominous red cloud just adds flair to any reaction I run
2:40 "a little more hesitantly we shall push forward" lmao
-[NUT]-[NUT]-[NUT]-[NUT]-[NUT] makes me laugh every GODDAMN TIME wtf is wrong with me?! I am an adult ffs.
Poly(NUT)
7:30 that was uncalled for💀
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The Gayest Person on TH-cam : And YOU mate... WHEN, are you going to resume the thermite experiments.? I fuckin' LOVED what you did.! :) Come on, let's start it allready... Pretty please..
no pressure but GIVE US THE DAMN THERMIGHTES
No pressure! No pressure or anything
Thanks though :)
i want a video on my desk by 5pm tonight you fuck
Explosions&Fire2 I’m on it. If you don’t get a notification it’s because I was kidnapped and not because I have nothing to show
I am so glad I was skeptical of the claim nitric acid would catch nitrile gloves on fire. SOP was latex under nitrile for small scale stuff that didn’t require full acid gloves. We had full strength hcl, nitric, hf, sulfuric and acetic on the acid side. Dozens more bases.
Interestingly enough nitroglycerine and ethylene glycol dinitrate can both be used as plasticizers. They work really well for PETN and ETN. They are far from perfect and I imagine they add to the sensitivity but they are an energetic plasticizer/binder.
3:00 that stirrer is having the time of its life!
"it's much easier to just nitrate a tree" im dead
If anybody is wondering what he flashed by the end of the video while regretting why the f did he he tossed the playdough into the beaker(accidentally), let me explain.
Remember the ferrate stream on his 2nd channel, making a purple iron 4 solution all throughout the night when you should be fckng asleep, the play dough messed that up by reducing it. And trust me he is as disappointed as we are.
Fck that dough.
Thank you so much you absolute legend
You left out the last bit about subscriptions for Pewds
Playdough comes in *yellow* jars. It's yellow chem by proxy!
@@word6344 a *SIN*
I love how funny you are well still being really professional and educational! This is what more kids need to watch to be interested in chemistry ! School just chokes a textbook down your throat. Keep up the good work man
Just a heads up for anyone else interested in this synthesis a lot of papers say if you are going the sulphuric acid route to dissolve the pla into the sulfuric acid and then slowly add the acid to the nitric acid
Besides the awesome chemistry, you are a really entertaining person. Keep it up!
Hey Dude, as someone who comes from this industry, I was an ATO in another life, this is one of the very few channels that doesn't talk total bull when it comes to explosives. Also it's funny. Well done sir
You actually deserve much more attention, people like you are currently rare on this platform
I found this channel by mistake, watched a couple of videos and you have definitely won me over dude. I had to subscribe. I love your style of high quality chemistry shitposting.
I don't know why this was recommended to me, beyond early 90's action movies I don't really have much of any interest in explosives or fire but I keep coming back because I think you're funny and down to Earth.
Keep it up, really enjoyable.
I just found you. You are a freaking hoot man and I love this as both a chemist an chemical engineer. I love the humor but thrown in with some real science and mischief.
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Always an excellent time. Thank You!
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At 7:27 we have a Chem-Player ant. Took me 5 minutes to get to read what you had at 9:34. Pewdepie indeed! I came to watch you. Good amusing vid. Thanks for that!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Also yes, it is an ant so this video counts as a Chemplayer collab
its easier on 0,25 speed -.- .... bad luck mate... :^)
I still can't get it to stop on the right tile. What does it say?
This is definitely my fave chem channel.
I can definitely see the difference you have come from when I first found your channel when I was looking for how to make dichromates from stainless steel, which you had done. I subbed back then, think it was 2017, but your video was a bit older. Your education has skyrocketed since then. I do apologize about recommending cubane, only because it seems HARD AF. I merely figured if anyone could do it it was you, nurdrage or nilered. Keep shining, doc.
You had me at 0:45. Nice technique. Subscribed for life.
Rip ferrate
To be fair though, ferrate looks at Oxygen and sees a good enough reducing agent to excuse itself from this existance!
this is actually making me become interested in science.. I found this so much better than boring biology
I have zero drive to do any of this or become part of any field where any of the knowledge would be useful yet I have binged almost all of ur vids
OI mate you got a loiscence for that!?
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10/10 informative, fun, & thought provoking... You could actually go places with this "Personality"
PfunkNH I download every single video, don't want to loose loads of great information again. F youtube for closing Ex&F... glad that he uploaded some old footage.
Why is personality in “quotations”
@@abd6051 why are Abd in "youtube?"
I used to make several gallon batches of PVA solution for an after school science enrichment program... it was such a pita as the second the PVA hits the hot water it clumps just like it did for you. An immersion blender and time was t’only way to make the stuff, mixed with a Borax solution you got Alien style slime.
Just love your videos
I do admire your efforts thought we are similar ages I’m really interested in things like this but never actually did the studies ect
A classic Ex&F video.. lovin it
Love these videos, deep fried chemistry and memes
Never PewDiePie!! You're stuck with me. Keep up the good work Man!!
Nobel used to do his experiments in a boat in the middle of a lake...just in case! It also made clearing up easier, it’s only a question of time before you go boom! Very informative until that time though
This is only the second video of yours I've watched and I FUCKING LOVE YOUR CHANNEL ALREADY. XD
I once kicked a ball lying on the floor of my "lab" out of anger about an unsuccessful reaction. Guess how this turned out...
Great video and lots of fun as always!
How did it turn out?
@@elephystry Lots of broken glassware and rivers of CuSO4 flowing over my bench mixed with a little bit of FeCl3. And a even more angry me!
Where has the youtube algorithm taken me! I feel like i would be put on some list in my country for watching this.
You really do need that glass transition and pretty low viscosity to go through a 3d printer nozzle.
Just imagine a world where you have 90 percent copper filament (which exists) and an explosive filament and a multi-extruder printer.
That just sounds like detcord with extra steps
@@handlesarecringe957 wow, it took me a long time to even figure out what the hell I was talking about in this comment. Shaped charges.
If we can figure that out the opportunity for 3d printable solid rocket boosters would be incredible! With the right design geometry/thermal management and scaffolding something like that could decrease the cost of a space launch to raw materials + what ammounts to injection molding 2.0! Thats awesome!
This guy is super funny. Subbed.
Thanks for the 1 frame explanation.
I feel like I’m gonna be put on some list for watching this.
The syringed polymer was impressive from a practical point. not a chemist but i would try packing the powder down, like a black powder banger. Could the polymer powder work the same way? Stick it in a wee cardboard tube and find out! 👍👍
Love the channel! Subscribed & liked
Awsome bud ! Thanks
I wonder what the properties of an explosive aerogel could be, given that nitrocellulose burns faster because it's 'fluffy'.
This is far and away the most educational shitpost I've ever seen. Keep up the good work.
8:32 Loved the WordArt xD
You are great man!
These videos are great
Missed you mate!
That grinder is so fresh compared to older videos
You haven't lived until you have been chased by a tank car (as I was as a late teenager volunteer fire fighter) of 3 beta-2 alpha vinyl butyl acetate... Flash point -38 degrees F, shipped as a gas compressed into liquid. Goes BOOM ( insert quote from the Fifth Element here) if it escapes or if fire/heat impinges on the vapor space at the top of the tank. Known to BLEVE (Boiling Liquid Expanding Vapor Explosion) and the blast wave can wipe out most everything for about 1/2 mile around. So impressive, a chemical company Union Carbide made a safety film on it after a car of it blew up in a rail yard in Houston.
Depending on the grade of PVA, it should be water soluble to various %, but it takes a while and you have to heat the crap out of it (80*C). However, once you have it in solution, you can crash it out with alcohol, acetone, ethyl acetate or what not; this will make very fine powder ;)
Hi as usual interesting and entertaining video; stil I have to add my 50 cents and energetic chemical expertise...
I had to bring some light and truth onto your video that seems to disqualify polymer or arge for their ban...
From what I was able to understand and gather from infos about high energetic materials:
First about molecular weights:
MW M1 < MW Mx < MW pM
A) If you go from monomer (M1) to multimer (Mx) and finally to polymers (pM) you usually end up with the following sequence of density d(M1) < d(Mx) < d(pM); this comes from my observations out of detonic parameters from hunderds of explosives (at this time after more than 30 years of study I couldn't find one single example that goes against my theory and conclusions).
Most of the time density increase (contraction due to Vanderwaals forces increase, ionic bonds multiplication, electronegative bon attraction (H bonds, etc.)) can be quite impressive.
Into your specific case compare detonic paramerters of PVN, VN (or equivalently ethyl nitrate) and 1,3-butane diol dinitrate you will be convinced (I did this kind of studies on many families of compounds; actually everytime I was able to do so).
You of course know that density is one of the heavier influencer into detonic parameters; it plays a role onto VOD (velocity of detonation). Increasing the number of monomers increases the molecular Vanderwaals forces, thus the compactness.
Into this field you of course know that PVN, just like nitrocellulose of high NO3% (or semtex, or cyclonite plastic) may burn (maybe deflagrate) but that is another story if you put an actuator / detonator into play instead of self-confinement from flame propagation and own weight.
B) If you consider impact sensitivity (IS), you will notice that IS goes up while the molecular mass increases (thus the polymeric weight)... this means that the compounds become less sensitive with polymerisation versus monomer.
Increasing the molecular lenght increases the (thermal/impact) energy due to inherent dissipations modes.
IS (M1) < IS (Mx) < IS (pM)
Using a polymer will thus be way safer than using monomers.
Again it will usually simply burn, but it may detonate at a much higher velocity rate if in contact with a detonator.
PHZ
(PHILOU Zrealone from the Science Madness forum and from newsgroups (Alt.Engr. Explosive, Pyrotechnics, Rec. Sci. Chemistry,...)
Usually the density also increases because there is also often phase change that occurs "naturally" due to polymerisation...
So a volatile liquid (or a gas) may turn into a liquid, then a wax and finally into a denser solid (not always cristalline but often with cristalline domains; they can be changed with thermal plateaus - or with help of polymerisation catalyst see atactic - syndiotactic and isotactic to get an idea of the influence on polymer parameters)
PHZ
Very interesting chemistry. Thank you. Probably some people not understand all. People.
I used to have to make large quantities of PVA solution for an after school science enrichment program... it is a *_massive_* pain to get into solution requiring far too much time in front of the hot plate with an electric mixer. Once I made it tho, add a Borax solution to make slime !!
Love to see his Kombucha recipe...that gits you 'bombed'.
2:00
Thats what she said.... when talking about grinding PBA
Nice to see Mr Turing get some credit..!!
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I fuckn luv this guy true blue if only chemistry ddnt take so long to post luv yor work bloke
:) Never thought of explosive polymers. Liked the comments on T(g). That's how car parts are made quite often, as I understand it. T(g) also is a big deal with coatings like those that are painted on to houses, cars, furniture, ect.
this video was recommended to me under 'recipes' nice going youtube 👍
Did you try the recipe?
@@uhuhuhuhuhuh3537 aye, delicious
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i love how this dude just makes explosives in what looks like his shed
i think the real lesson to be learned here is to keep your open reaction vessels in the main shot so that when you accidentally do something horrible to them at least you'll get some Content out of it
thanks for the footage of what happens if nitric acid comes in contact with latex or nitrile gloves. I never knew that was the result. I feel like I would've remembered that, so I don't think anyone's ever mentioned it before. And making nitric acid ( low grade crap really) is actually on my project list. So, you may've saved me a bit of skin.
RFNA, it's a mix not straight nitric acid.
As a freshman chem major, I've kind of been thinking about specifically what I want to do with my life. I kind of narrowed it down to research on polymers or energetics. Never have I thought about doing both, but maybe I should just look into plasticizers and energetics. Anyways, I love the dumbness of your videos
turned off Pornhub 2 seconds after seeing this notification popping up , buttttt.... still no fricking explosions😂😂😂
at least there was some fire this time! i'll work on the explosions, make your journey off of Pornhub more worthwhile
Speak for yourself.
I nutted pretty forcefully from this, more than forcefully enough to be classified as an explosion methinks! XD
you will re-shoot your mercury fulminate video. Your procedure was very well explained
i am from nation vasca
was it me you talking about or Tdep? God people need to more specific nowadays.
I saw your channel name and was like these are my people
So2 gas is used to react with the water created by the nitration reaction there by keeping the nitric acid concentrated. The so2 forms H2SO4.
Very nice video, subbed to you and PewDiePie
I was waiting to see a whole lot of that syringe extruded polymer put into a metal tube to make a solid rocket, oh baby that would be fun to see !
Chad of the explosive polymers definitely makes sense.
I was hiding behind cushions when I saw you using the 'packing screw'
Well, I have watched several of your videos now and enjoyed each. I note two things: one you are clearly brilliant and very knowledgeable of your material and know how to present it in ways the average person can understand; Two, you are also like me, ADHD. Enjoy.
Just waiting for someone to suggest that you explore the Trommsdorff Effect
Have you ever synthed ETN? I made it once or twice in my early 20s. Once plasticized it with petroleum jelly and paraffin wax and it worked amazing with an tatp cap. Very interesting compound. Sugar alcohol energetics always interested me especially xylitol and manitol. Another that is very interesting is methyl nitrate.Anyways enjoy your vids and humor, makes chemistry fun. Cheers!
Perhaps... but I will say that methyl nitrate is goddamn awful stuff
@@ExplosionsAndFire haha. Agreed I have never been dumb enough to attempt a synth of MN myself but from research I have read some truly disturbing things about it, especially toxicity as it being an absorbable liquid. Maybe do a video about the toxicity of energetics as I know quite a few are worse than common poisons. I hear ethylene glycol dinitriate is quite awful compared to its un-nitrated counterpart
@@ExplosionsAndFire I wish you were monetized more as your videos are def worth $ as I particularly enjoyed the video about the taste of different halide salts as I myself was intrigued by this. TH-cam needs to take a reality check if chemistry is bad but music vids about drugs and sex and violence =$$$
@@kennyadams9741 actually these days I'm mostly monetized, which is surprising but I'm hardly complaining. Not a full time job, but yeah there is some reward for all the views these days, somehow!
There has been and continues to be quite a bit of research on ENERGETIC polymers and plasticizers, actually. Not so much for plastic explosives as for solid rocket fuel binders and such things as shaped charges, explosive lenses for fission weapons, etc. Do visit the mad science energetic materials forum and do a bit of googling for more.
Years ago I made TATP (couple grams) then added just enough acetone to dissolve it. Then I had the bright idea to put styrofoam till it would not dissolve. Then i let it room dry when the styrofoam turned into a hard plastic I touched it with a lit Punk and omg about blew my hand off. Don't Try Anywhere.
Nice
Could you give an approximate ingredient list for others to try it out?(kinda actually wanna know)
@@diehard7502 hi there ATF/CIA/alphabet soup glow-in-the-dark agency DON'T MAKE TATP. It is that one explosive that's so easy to make that everyone who should not be dealing with explosives can just cook up a too large batch (by that i mean a few gramms) and blow their hand off. It's also stupidly unsafe (sublimates and crystalizes in the threads of a container's lid) so that's at least a self correcting problem. DO NOT MAKE IT. If you can't make something better, you should just stay away from this part of chemistry entirely.
@@ARandomTroll You are 100% right I have never made that stuff ever again. I will never give out how to make it are the amounts needed.
Sure why not, I don’t mind another video that will get me on a watch list.
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I think, PVN can also formed when we nitrating polyvinylacetate/PVAc (a kind of wooden camp), with a mixture of concentrated nitric and sulfuric acids (mixed acid: HNO3 + H2SO4).
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have you done the one where you bubble acetylene through the solution suspended in distilled water. Mad fun dummy powerful pop