Well, he is outright wrong. The following distance of that popular vlogger makes me wince. He's heading for a rear ender. There's no need for diplomacy.
All points well said... ... one additional point that pushes my buttons is that chase rides predominantly one-handed. He is one of those who talks with his hands, and this includes his motor logging. Keep those hands on the bars! marcus
This bothers me soo much when I see riders doing this. If he is teaching people to ride in traffic, he needs to set the example. It's a "cool guy" thing. Riding for years doesn't mean you're a good rider.
Humm... As an actual one handed motorcyclists, I have to question how dangerous this really is. Its his clutch hand hes flapping around, correct? Is that any more dangerous than the biker wave?
Riding to close behind another vehicle and in the video he is also quite often on the right portion of the lane. If an on coming vehicle decides to pass right after they go by the vehicle you are following, they may not see a motorcycle in that position. Ride by the line with your headlamp visible to the vehicle in front of you incase you decide to pass and the on coming vehicles can clearly see that the space is occupied.
You’re right when there is oncoming traffic. This practice doesn’t apply on a highway with no oncoming traffic however. In addition, sometimes it is better to use all three sections of a lane depending on the situation. For example, when one cannot see around a vehicle in front because their vehicle is riding the median to the left it is useful to ride in the right portion of the lane so one can see. I was taught by MSF beginner and advanced courses to utilize the left, middle, and right of the lane as the situation dictates. Flexibility is the key. Don’t be a stationary target. I often move from left to right in a lane to make myself more visible and to give more space to a vehicle next to me . I’ve been riding for 37 years.
I started riding motorcycles at 5 years old 1959. I was taught by my father how to ride. I started watching YT video's about 3 years ago. It surprised me that most of the good advice on the video's I had been doing my whole life as taught by my father who rode his cycle well into his 80's. MCrider has taught me that my father knew what he was doing.
And this video is yet another reason why I value your channel and instruction. I've been riding ONLY since 2017 so I still consider myself NEW, even after 37,000 miles. Like all things in life, true wisdom comes from choosing your advisors / mentors wisely. I am glad to have found MC Rider early in my riding years. Love the channel.
I agree with your statements. One of my biggest pet peeves is when motorcycle vloggers use their left hand as if they’re giving a lecture or something. Yes, I occasionally remove my left hand when riding and there is no car nearby, to rest it. I get it. But some of them do it consistently whenever they’re vlogging regardless if they’re cars around them or not. I don’t get that.
Regarding stopping at a light behind another vehicle, in addition to leaving space between us, I stop offset from the vehicle, in back of whichever side has more room. This way, I set up my escape route in advance, and I'm less likely to get pushed into the vehicle in front if someone hits me hard from behind. Of course, I also watch my mirrors and stay in first gear, at least until someone fully stops behind me.
Apart from the frequency with which he rides one-handed, I find his lane position frequently dangerous. He's most commonly on the right hand side of the lane, near the kerb, instead of near the centre line. In all my years of riding and training, that's crazy. You need to be in a position to see PAST the cars in front and see the threats from oncoming traffic, but also ensure that drivers on both sides of the road can see YOU. An oncoming vehicle can't see you hiding behind another car when you're near the kerb, so will either try to overtake (coming into your lane head-on) or will turn across your lane causing a t-bone. How many times have you only seen the left hand side of an oncoming car while you're driving? You need to be the left hand side of a car when you're on your bike, and that means riding in the track of the left hand wheels of the cars in front of you.
As I become even more seasoned as a rider, the one area I tend to struggle with most is proper following distance. I become complacent and the distance tends to shorten. Impatience can be a problem as well, but your Friday videos always help reign me in.
Hit that one right on the nose about why most people tailgate. They don't realize they are doing it because they have become comfortable to the point of complacency or impatient to the point of not being concerned enough about their own safety or the safety of others. It's good to be aware of these, it makes you a 1%er because most people are not.
The problem with full time youtubers is the constant need for more content. Lots of them run out of things they are knowledgeable about pretty quickly an branch out. But when they start talking about those other things, they talk like they are experts in that too. People doing how to videos the first time they have ever done something for instance. Thats a dig on myself. I have 366,628 views currently on my video installing a 5th wheel hitch. Thats more than the instillation video made by the manufacturer. They are the experts an that video was the first an only time I have ever done it. It shouldn't be that way. But I am at least a college educated Automotive Tech an followed the instructions. But youtube is full of people making themselves out to be experts on subjects that they are new too. All because they need to put out a video every week. Best beginner bike video by people in their first season of riding. Best riding gear video by someone that has only worn one set. Its a problem.
I remember seeing a YT by some rider casting doubt on the idea that "you ride where you look". He quickly looked left, then right, and said, " See, it's not true!" Yeah, right.
Another thing I notice a lot in these riding videos is their choice of lane position. Chase is commonly seen taking an outside lane position on the highway, which can be potentially dangerous for him. He's taking away his line of sight for anything up the road and a potential escape path to the other lane, and he's also making it much more difficult for other cars to see him. When you ride in the outside of the lane like that, you are much more likely to be in a car's blind spot. Skyoom has a video demonstrating this where he responds to the advice "Ride like you're invisible"
I'd counter by saying that if you are aware of were vehicles typically have blind spots it doesn't matter because you shouldn't be riding in them in the first place. It's up to you to not ride in their blind spots. My general rule of thumb is to not be anywhere in the space between bumpers except when I'm passing a vehicle and to not be there any longer than absolutely necessary. That includes not overtaking if I may end up riding beside another vehicle. People forget that they can change lane position left and right, but also forward and backwards.
@@PetrolJunkieI ride to the left of the car in front of me as much as possible. Most drivers only use their passenger side mirror for lane changes. Also, on the highway, there is more dust and debris on the far right shoulder.
Absolutely ride so you’re in the driver’s side mirror. The other advantage of not sitting in what I call nearside position (nearest to the kerb) is if anyone pokes their car’s nose out of a driveway you are well clear of them
I like to ride next to the centerline in a lot of cases. If there is a tire failure or panicked animal it increases the chance of staying on the road in an unexpected situation. Avoiding debris is easier too.
It depends on the roads I'm riding. Interstate, Highway or back roads. Not all roads or situations are created equal. Once you have some experience. You will know when to shuffle and when to be shuffled. If you ever have that feeling "I'm going to go for it, but I probably shouldn't." Then you probably shouldn't go for it. Be safe and enjoy the ride.
I watched his video in total. Riders should not take advice from him. The truth is he's setting a bad example of bad practices, even though he thinks he's helping new riders, his overconfidence could lead to disasters on the road, i a gree with your assessment ,defense driving is what keeps you safe, especially in motorcycles, and more in sport motorcycles.
Hi Kevin! You may not know, but your timing is perfect. Here in Poland both May 1st and May 3rd are national holidays, so we are having really long weekend. Add this to the fact of an outstanding weather and you have a perfect micture for loads of crasehs and other incidents on the roads... Re this episode: it is another example, of McRider being the true #1 on the yt. Foolstop.
A couple of points to add: * I have watched a lot of his content, he sounds convincing but he obviously has no formal training to coach anyone on how to ride. Experience is not always the best teacher. * even in this segment, his default riding position (lane position 3) is not a good choice in that much traffic. There were several times where a car almost came over to share his lane. That is what he is inviting. * he and others (and sometimes you, Kevin) quote some rather dated MSF BRC curricula points. For instance, the Slow-Look-Press-Roll curve strategy. While still mostly valid for beginners, the MSF Curve Strategy in the BRCu is SSS (Search-Setup-Smooth). Search far and near, side to side, set up speed and lane position at entry and be smooth with controls (mostly brakes/throttle). Be safe (and careful) out there and we'll see you on the road.
my larger point is that although Chase is well meaning, he has never been trained (unlike you) in any researched based curricula and therefore not really qualified to advise people on a lot of stuff. I hope no one gets hurt based on some of the things he says and does. Keep on doing what you do. I am glad you made this segment. Comments will be interesting.
As a rule, I generally ride in the left wheel track. In most of Chases’s videos he’s in the right wheel track. However, in some camera angles, he left, center or right. It’s not the game LCR here but giving himself an “escape.” I’m glad that was covered. I love your take on his videos and your interpretation. I agree with your point of view, especially for aging riders. This is not a personal dig toward you by any means. I’m an older rider too and these younger riders that just like to go fast need to watch and learn. Surface appraisal Environment conditions Lane positioning Head and eyes Following/Travel distances I’m tired of picking up their dead bodies from the roadside.
On multi lane roads here in traffic if you give 2-3 seconds following distance 2 cars will change lanes and take the space. My solution is to avoid multi lane roads as much as possible…
The easy solution is to slow up and recreate your safety zone. Part of the reason why that distance is there is to give others space to safely merge and change lanes. People forget that they should leave a gap so others can safely move as needed. The I must close the gap so others can't get in front of me mentality is responsible for a lot of avoidable rear-end collisions and often the result of impatience on the driver's part.
I see other riders following too close all the time. In fact, I would go so far as to say that people leaving a proper gap are very rare. That's sad, it's something you can control to make your ride safer and it doesn't cost you anything to do it. The other thing I noticed was lane position. Chase was in the middle of the lane in every shot. You have to use the whole lane and actively change positions based on what is happening around you. In the first clip with the truck I would have been in the number three position, furthest left, because the lane beside me is empty. Setting yourself up to have a clear escape is probably just as important as giving yourself enough time and distance to execute a maneuver.
I think you have offered useful advice especially for new riders. There are things that bothered me about this video not the least of which was one hand on the bars while on the highway. I do admit to doing that myself with cruise control on so I can rest my right hand. In my defence I ride a Spyder so I am much more stable than a two-wheeler. Motovlogging is fine but the tendency to talk with you hands as you record live audio means your ability to control the bike is compromised and that is a problem at any speed but more so at high speed on the highway.
I have learned more about proper and safe (and responsible) motorcycle riding in the last few years than I learned from all the previous decades of riding. This fact is due mostly to you and your channel, so thank you Kevin. The materials you present contain few things I can disagree with, perhaps none, if that's possible and far fewer than any of the other riding videos. The only area where we disagree is religion, but its freedom of (and freedom from) religion is a vitally important reason why America is so great. Again, thanks for helping me to stay safe on my bike. P.S. I help out at a motorcycle shop and I tell all the inexperienced riders to be sure to watch and pay close attention to YOUR videos (and fortnine too) if they want to live long enough to become an "old rider" like me.
Thanks Kevin, I couldn’t agree more. Watching this video made me nervous, I could not get comfortable with Chases following distance or lane positions. We all make errors, I don’t think I’ve ever had a “perfect” ride so I hope Chase takes any criticism he might get from this as constructive. I think we all want to see each other get home safe.
6:10 If Chase had been concerned about what was ahead of him, he wouldn't have been surprised when the truck driver started swerving. He'd have seen the traffic stopped ahead.
I think it was more than not paying attention to what is happening far enough up the road. It was also poor lane position. His lane position made it difficult to see far enough up the road.
Making a how-to video but not setting the example is really a bad thing. I enjoy your videos but i appreciate your faith and sharing your faith more. Great video.
Thank you for another great video, Kevin. During a recent conversation with a non-motorcyclist, he proudly told me he watches out for us and keeps a one to two car length distance behind us. I thanked him and suggested keeping a two-second distance instead and explained why. He seemed appreciative and I feel he might actually do it. Regarding looking ahead, I used to hear we need to be aware of what’s going on up to 4 seconds ahead of us at all times. More recently that’s been increased to 12 seconds - assuming we can see that far up the road, of course. I am more inclined to pay more attention to my mirrors when I see something ahead of me that might require me to slow down or stop. I always try to be aware of what’s immediately around me, in all directions, for those unexpected situations where swerving or emergency braking may be required but it’s not easy as traffic conditions constantly change. Ride safe, everyone.
You can do everything right and still get run over, I was stopped at a traffic light. Had my escape paths was in right lane, car behind me had stopped. This truck came in from the left lane and nailed me. Did not see it coming. Riding a bike is a constant learning experience.
I would add to the critique of Chases' video that his lane position is not the best, I have generally been advised to place my motorcycle in the drivers side wheel tracks so that the driver in front has the best chance of seeing me in the mirrors, but Chase tended to sit in the passenger side wheel tracks.
I've been on a couple of courses run by the French motorcycle police and they tell you to ride nearer to the side of the road than the middle unless positioning for a right bend
@@davidaldis8242 I have received instruction from British, New Zealand, and South African instructors, one of whom was a former Police motorcyclist, and while they encouraged the use of the whole lane, whether on a twisty section, or when positioning for safety, the default position has been behind the drivers side wheels to provide good visibility, and avoid debris which tends to accumulate closer to the kerb side of the lane.
Kevin, Could not agree more with your assertions regarding thinking/looking ahead and following distance. I'm a professional pilot and flight instructor. One of the sayings we have for guys who can't/don't get ahead of the plane is "the aircraft arrived over the runway threshold, but the pilot was on a one mile final".
The biggest challenge with creating a large stopping distance between the vehicle in front is all the other drivers cutting you off to take the space and then braking checking you. One way to safely prevent this (in heavy traffic) is to following a vehicle that cars don't like to follow like a bus or a semi. I do this with my truck and trailer all the time and having radar cruise makes it easy and safe. You also get protection from animal hits, less wind, fewer bugs but the down side is you have to be more aware of road garbage and of course the view is poor.
All good points in this video. Proper following distance is critical, but your speed might be the number on item on the safety list. Never speed through or around traffic. If you go the speed limit or a bit less, cars will see you more easily and your reaction ability will be increased. There's a time and place to enjoy your motorcycle's performance capabilities, choose wisely.
I think you were honest and helpful. I even use the same following distance that you recommend in my car. I always look as far up the road as I can along with a good following distance so that I can slow down more slowly allowing the driver behind me more time to react. Distracted drivers need extra time to react and I try to give it to them. Heck, even good drivers need time to react. Let's help both of them.
Lane position is definitely a very fluid thing and a thinking rider is always putting themselves in the best tactical spot on the roadway. I have personally witnessed a rider who was on the far left side of his lane passing vehicles in the right lane of a divided hiway where the vehicle that was being passed decided to pass the one in front of them. They may or may not have looked in the mirror but without a good shoulder check the bike running along the far left of the lane was missed and a collision almost happened. The rider then retaliated with road rage and made it worse. Yes the car was in the wrong but the rider could have likely avoided the whole issue by being in the right portion of their lane where the car driver should be able to see their headlight easily.
I always appreciate your videos Kevin. Hopefully he might see your video and maybe make some adjustments to his training videos. There's another trainer that I quit watching a while ago because in his travels he took both hands off of his handlebars which I know is against the law in every state and when I called back to his attention it's a bad thing for new riders to see he never responded. I then quit watching his videos. It is a good thing for a trainer to point out his mistakes but at that point they must stop making those mistakes because it will inflict bad habits on New Riders. Keep up the good work and I will see you on the road.
@@ZabDevin No Dan Dan the Fireman but don't tell him I said so...Actually he failed to respond to me, so I don't care if he knows or not. You can't do illegal or improper things on a training video. Teaching motorcycle safety is important, and a trainer should NEVER do things on their video to cause a new rider to think it is safe to do something.
Yes I agree with you on all points. My thoughts on Chase being on a sport bike tends to make me believe being on a sports bikes make me think those riders are always in a rush or hurry which lends to shorter trail/follow distances because their bikes are more capable than a touring or cruiser. And that leads to bad habits. The four wheel version of those drivers handle their vehicles often the same way seemingly always looking for a race or are stuck in "look at me" syndrome. Im a conceal carry man and I often see quite often untrained gun carrying individuals feeling emboldened and empowered because they do have a weapon strapped to their hip.
@@kurrie3280 yup. Unless I get feedback educating me, thats what I go with from where I sit based on what I see on the road but I don't think its so extreme. Overgeneralization, prolly. Cheers!
Great information Kevin. On rider distraction, I do listen to music while riding, but have noticed that my rider inputs are smoother and more consistent when I turn the music off. I don't know if this is due to me being more focused, the enhanced aural feedback, or a combination of factors, but it does improve my rider inputs. Keep up the great content.
Yes, I listen to music frequently as well...but it has to be the right kind of music. Some music makes me think too much about the lyrics but if I stick to 70s and 80s rock I can listen without too much distraction.
Good advice as usual. I try to know what is happening as far a head as I can see. That way I can avoid anyone stopping, turning or doing something stupid etc. Following too close not only makes it more likely you will rear end the car ahead but doesn't give you a way out to avoid objects on the road or broken pavement etc. that could cause a crash.
Good info and I pretty much agree with your constructive criticism. I'd cut a bit more slack on distance in town due to the low speed and M/C braking performance. The freeway danger from behind comment is just bad advice in my opinion.
Agreed on the highway distance. Did a ride from New Braunfels to home on 35 and 130, turned my cruise control on at appropriate times, but kept myself at a few miles below the speed limit to "force" riders behind me to pass. I also kept a far distance between myself and any vehicle in front of me.
Kevin, loved the fact that you supported Chris on 2 wheels video help riders.. every Iinstructor should open to criticism by a fellow channel TH-cam instructor. It shows your maturity to handle criticism when applied in a constructive manner.
@@MCrider 1. Let's just example when you travel in 2 pane road going through same direction and weather you traveling on motorcycle on left or right lane and if there is a car on left and you on right and when you creating a safe distance from vehicle in front of you you are in blind spot of vehicle to your left or to your right depend on which lane you traveling on. It creates a hazardous situation because as we all know a lot of people do not check their blind spot. I would rather take my chances with my ability to break or avoid collision from the vehicle in front of me and fully depend on the ability of my progressive and on time breaking then getting swept by vehicle to my right or left. 2. Let's just say vehicle behind you is tailgating you and you have no choice by reposition motorcycle to your left or right and move just a little closer to a vehicle in front of you. In case vehicle in front decide emergency break and vehicle behind me can sandwich me however of you position yourself all the way to your right or left and with decent ability to of breaking and swerving. 3. In case you traveling on highway and there is an empty HOV lane and you going relatively fast I'd say 60-70 miles and hour and right lane is all backed up and if you traveling far you know how many people try swerve into HOV lane they wait for the vehicle in front of you to pass it do not see you. So I'd rather follow closely to vehicle in front of me and leaving no gap for vehicle swipe me right after vehicle in front of you to pass and that vehicle can on right can swerve into HOV lane and not able to swipe you but if you smart and enough and u can travel on very left of HOV lane and in case vehicle in front will brake hard you can swerve into little emergency curb of HOV lane.... I can go even more examples.... problem is most riders you are right not able to break decently and either grab brakes hard or panic do not brake at all
@@MCrider I always say ride your ride. Do not criticize someone unless you are perfect. You have been a motorcycle instructor means nothing honestly simple because I know half of the motorcycle instructors do not know what the hell they are doing... matter of opinion. You can go by I disagree with chaseon2wheels and say I prefer and advice doing this but do not say they are wrong doing something
Many of these are not just rider issues, they're driver issues too. Especially following distance. A 2 second minimum following distance should also be observed between cars. Fun fact, the reason highway traffic bunches up for no apparent reason is because of drivers not following at a safe distance. When they need to hit the brakes, the resulting cascade of brakes behind them creates the traffic jam. In brief: Hate traffic? Stop tailgating.
You also need to be on the right or the left side of that vehicle whichever side has more space in case the vehicle behind you decide not to stop that puts you out of the way or gives you a place to go so that he doesn't hit you
Lately, I've been hearing a lot of folks state that one should ride faster than the traffic around them. With comments about, any trouble is then always in front of them. I think it's just an excuse to go zoom. When you're coming up on another vehicle, they have have less chance to see you. And, so many people change lanes without checking their mirrors, or just a cursory glance that you're putting yourself in danger by always being in someones blind spot.
The only real way to protect yourself from being hit from behind is to make sure you have enough space in front of you. No matter what kind of vehicle I am in, I have between 3 and 4 seconds in front of me before the next vehicle especially on the highway. If you ever want to double check how good of a driver you are, go riding on the highways near the time when Spring break has just released all college students to go home for break. Between that city and the next will have the largest consolidated group of people you never want to be on the road with and if you are an experienced driver or rider, you will be the only thing between them and certain death because they mostly have zero sense of how much space should be between cars at 75 mph. Since you can't get out and train 10k people all at once, your only option is a massive amount of space in front of you and very gradual changes with a lot of signaling lead time. If you have to stop suddenly on the highway and you didn't leave enough space or communicate what's going to happen in enough time, you are not going to get hit with one car, you are going to be hit by about 100 of them. The only difference between that scenario and normal is slightly fewer cars.
Following distance. In my area, people are used to driving in the city, where they feel it's polite to leave as small of a gap as possible to what's in front of them, to allow more cars to fit per city block. Valid point. But when they drive in the country roads, they still keep this mentality and I hate it. I keep a 6 second to 12 second gap in front of me, because that's about how long it takes for a car to slow down and turn off the road. By the time they're off the road, I've still got a few seconds of stopping distance buffer, and I don't have to turn off cruise control. But, some jackass gets behind me, and sees a gap in front, passes me, then cuts me off (down to a 1-second gap if not closer because they don't account for speed here, only physical distance... if it fits, they sits), and I then can only slow down and re-create my gap. The fun part of this is when I'm following a car, the car behind me passes me, then I recreate the distance, and the first lead car hits brakes to turn off, and I then pass the car that passed me without turning off my cruise control and they get downright pissed off about it, especially when the passing zones end.
Always assume EVERYONE in a car or truck will do something stupid, pull in front of you, etc. First thing I do is try to ride where there is as little traffic as possible. I live in Northcentral Pa. If I lived in Atlanta or some such place, I wouldn't have a motorcycle.
Dear Kevin, Good thing you never adopted that "helmet method", to me that would be No Accountability and I would dismiss those videos in less 10 seconds of watching. Please keep up with showing who you are and be proud of all your guidance by sharing your valuable experience. Ride Safe, Thank You!
I've been riding since 1985. I've usually stopped directly center of the vehicle in front of me at intersections so they can see me in the center mirror. I was recently informed that it's better to possion behind their driver's mirror. What are your thoughts?
The thing about riders on the suburbs is that you really can’t enjoy a motorcycle at its fullest. Between Walmarts and Olive gardens is pretty pathetic.
Those that follow closely? WTH Public roads are the most dangerous place for a motorcycle. I doubt those that follow closely cover the front brake when riding in cities or parking lots. (One of many tips from Yamaha Champions)
where i live in central jersey u give a 3 car buffer between yourself and car in front and u will get the vehicle behind u to just cross center lines and pass u and thats local roads 35 mph or less these people have got a bag of twice fried fritters sitting on the seat next to them and the 5 alarm volcanic dipping sauce just doesnt taste right if the fritters are cold ! its mayhem-getam out there !
I think chase's comments towards the end of 'I need to worry about whats behind me' is an experienced riders take on the highway- he's got the front under control, he can affect what happens in the front, he can't influence what happens behind him so he wants to be more aware of it than just looking forward. This is a weird video to be posted as a response 2 years later - did you ask him if it was cool to use his content as a teaching tool? I'm sure he would have agreed, but the timing seems super odd
Personally I don’t like his choice of lane position. I will generally rather be in the left track which puts me in the same position, relatively speaking, as the drivers in the cars ahead and behind. Especially in traffic situations when making right turns, he doesn’t have command of the lane, and some drivers will tend to pull up beside a bike in this position.
On the interstate I stay close to the center line. You can see farther up to road and from my experience, more dumb stuff happens closer to either shoulder. Truck tires, potholes and debris in general.
So glad you did this video. I saw the original and was somewhat concerned about what he was doing and saying. I’m surprised you didn’t mention his advice on watching the front wheels of vehicles in traffic to determine whether or not they were going to change lanes. I specifically don’t watch anything but rather scan constantly. For new riders this advice may lead them into serious trouble. I also didn’t like his lane position or travelling in the centre lane of a 3 lane road. Traveling in the centre lane just doubles your work load keeping track of the other vehicles. I think you went easy on him!
First I ever heard of him. Not sure its entirely fair to make video to point out his errors, He did post it as instruction so fair game to comment. He isn't leaving much room in front. He might get more views now. Last summer leaving Anchorage, I had to brake hard and stop suddenly on the highway, A car a few in front had hit the brakes. Fortunately my following distance was adequate and I stopped ok. The car behind me had to go off onto the shoulder to avoid hitting me. I didn't even realize he was too close until after. So he has a point. Stopping behind the car at the lights. Kind of close. Have you ever seen any footage of a rider. Actually avoiding a rear end shunt by escaping? Or heard from a rider first hand. I just stopped hard my attention was entirely in front of me i had enough distance i even had an escape route. I didn't have time to react. Fortunately the driver did have an escape and used it.
Ok, I am no good example of a rider. But in 30 years, I have learned how to own the road I am on. Some people see your light and assume you are tailgating. Yes Karen will break check you. She will chase you down and yell at you like the planet is hers, she will merge into your lane and then blame you. Cops will look for any reason to blame you if you are not on a 30K Harley. Set rules for yourself. If you wish to cut up. no traffic, no cross streets, and no people walking in the direction you plan to cut up.
I gave up on Chaseontwowheels a long time ago. Was watching a bike rebuild he was doing and he snapped a bolt off because when he read the torque spec he assumed it was in ft-lbs instead of in-lb. He impressed me as someone who didn't pay attention to the details because of that.
Won’t we talk about how bad his positioning on the road is? He‘s hiding on the right side like a bicycle where he can‘t be seen early and can‘t look as far as if he would ride close to the middle. Don‘t hide on your bike is what i was told and think it makes sense.
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I like how you said some info worth more discussion. You did not call him names or say he was outright wrong. That is proper debate.
Well, he is outright wrong. The following distance of that popular vlogger makes me wince. He's heading for a rear ender. There's no need for diplomacy.
All points well said...
... one additional point that pushes my buttons is that chase rides predominantly one-handed. He is one of those who talks with his hands, and this includes his motor logging. Keep those hands on the bars!
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This bothers me soo much when I see riders doing this. If he is teaching people to ride in traffic, he needs to set the example. It's a "cool guy" thing. Riding for years doesn't mean you're a good rider.
Yes, something that bothered me too! And over 1 million people have seen him do this; and potentially think it's okay.
had the same thought
Humm... As an actual one handed motorcyclists, I have to question how dangerous this really is. Its his clutch hand hes flapping around, correct? Is that any more dangerous than the biker wave?
@@RebelCowboysRVs when it's continually off the bar, yes. It's not comparable at all. The clutch is very important. All the controls are important.
Riding to close behind another vehicle and in the video he is also quite often on the right portion of the lane. If an on coming vehicle decides to pass right after they go by the vehicle you are following, they may not see a motorcycle in that position. Ride by the line with your headlamp visible to the vehicle in front of you incase you decide to pass and the on coming vehicles can clearly see that the space is occupied.
You’re right when there is oncoming traffic. This practice doesn’t apply on a highway with no oncoming traffic however. In addition, sometimes it is better to use all three sections of a lane depending on the situation. For example, when one cannot see around a vehicle in front because their vehicle is riding the median to the left it is useful to ride in the right portion of the lane so one can see. I was taught by MSF beginner and advanced courses to utilize the left, middle, and right of the lane as the situation dictates. Flexibility is the key. Don’t be a stationary target. I often move from left to right in a lane to make myself more visible and to give more space to a vehicle next to me . I’ve been riding for 37 years.
Exactly what I just commented! I am 100% with you!
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I started riding motorcycles at 5 years old 1959. I was taught by my father how to ride. I started watching YT video's about 3 years ago. It surprised me that most of the good advice on the video's I had been doing my whole life as taught by my father who rode his cycle well into his 80's. MCrider has taught me that my father knew what he was doing.
And this video is yet another reason why I value your channel and instruction. I've been riding ONLY since 2017 so I still consider myself NEW, even after 37,000 miles. Like all things in life, true wisdom comes from choosing your advisors / mentors wisely. I am glad to have found MC Rider early in my riding years. Love the channel.
I think his lane position was terrible all around, street and highway.
Agree completely.
I agree with your statements. One of my biggest pet peeves is when motorcycle vloggers use their left hand as if they’re giving a lecture or something. Yes, I occasionally remove my left hand when riding and there is no car nearby, to rest it. I get it. But some of them do it consistently whenever they’re vlogging regardless if they’re cars around them or not. I don’t get that.
You got a point, you need to grab that handle bar like your life depends on it, plus you can rest your entire upper body weight on it
Regarding stopping at a light behind another vehicle, in addition to leaving space between us, I stop offset from the vehicle, in back of whichever side has more room. This way, I set up my escape route in advance, and I'm less likely to get pushed into the vehicle in front if someone hits me hard from behind.
Of course, I also watch my mirrors and stay in first gear, at least until someone fully stops behind me.
In 8 years on TH-cam watching MC channels, I had never heard of him 🤷🏼♂️
Me neither this first time I ever
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I’ve been watching motorcycle videos for 5+ years and this was the first I ever heard of him!
Apart from the frequency with which he rides one-handed, I find his lane position frequently dangerous. He's most commonly on the right hand side of the lane, near the kerb, instead of near the centre line. In all my years of riding and training, that's crazy. You need to be in a position to see PAST the cars in front and see the threats from oncoming traffic, but also ensure that drivers on both sides of the road can see YOU. An oncoming vehicle can't see you hiding behind another car when you're near the kerb, so will either try to overtake (coming into your lane head-on) or will turn across your lane causing a t-bone. How many times have you only seen the left hand side of an oncoming car while you're driving? You need to be the left hand side of a car when you're on your bike, and that means riding in the track of the left hand wheels of the cars in front of you.
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As I become even more seasoned as a rider, the one area I tend to struggle with most is proper following distance. I become complacent and the distance tends to shorten. Impatience can be a problem as well, but your Friday videos always help reign me in.
Hit that one right on the nose about why most people tailgate. They don't realize they are doing it because they have become comfortable to the point of complacency or impatient to the point of not being concerned enough about their own safety or the safety of others. It's good to be aware of these, it makes you a 1%er because most people are not.
The problem with full time youtubers is the constant need for more content. Lots of them run out of things they are knowledgeable about pretty quickly an branch out. But when they start talking about those other things, they talk like they are experts in that too. People doing how to videos the first time they have ever done something for instance. Thats a dig on myself. I have 366,628 views currently on my video installing a 5th wheel hitch. Thats more than the instillation video made by the manufacturer. They are the experts an that video was the first an only time I have ever done it. It shouldn't be that way. But I am at least a college educated Automotive Tech an followed the instructions. But youtube is full of people making themselves out to be experts on subjects that they are new too. All because they need to put out a video every week. Best beginner bike video by people in their first season of riding. Best riding gear video by someone that has only worn one set. Its a problem.
I remember seeing a YT by some rider casting doubt on the idea that "you ride where you look". He quickly looked left, then right, and said, " See, it's not true!"
Yeah, right.
Another thing I notice a lot in these riding videos is their choice of lane position. Chase is commonly seen taking an outside lane position on the highway, which can be potentially dangerous for him. He's taking away his line of sight for anything up the road and a potential escape path to the other lane, and he's also making it much more difficult for other cars to see him. When you ride in the outside of the lane like that, you are much more likely to be in a car's blind spot. Skyoom has a video demonstrating this where he responds to the advice "Ride like you're invisible"
I'd counter by saying that if you are aware of were vehicles typically have blind spots it doesn't matter because you shouldn't be riding in them in the first place. It's up to you to not ride in their blind spots. My general rule of thumb is to not be anywhere in the space between bumpers except when I'm passing a vehicle and to not be there any longer than absolutely necessary. That includes not overtaking if I may end up riding beside another vehicle.
People forget that they can change lane position left and right, but also forward and backwards.
@@PetrolJunkieI ride to the left of the car in front of me as much as possible. Most drivers only use their passenger side mirror for lane changes. Also, on the highway, there is more dust and debris on the far right shoulder.
Absolutely ride so you’re in the driver’s side mirror. The other advantage of not sitting in what I call nearside position (nearest to the kerb) is if anyone pokes their car’s nose out of a driveway you are well clear of them
I use the whole lane, always figuring out a plan to be ahead of the traffic. I’m always on offense being on the more aggressive.
I like to ride next to the centerline in a lot of cases. If there is a tire failure or panicked animal it increases the chance of staying on the road in an unexpected situation. Avoiding debris is easier too.
It depends on the roads I'm riding. Interstate, Highway or back roads. Not all roads or situations are created equal. Once you have some experience. You will know when to shuffle and when to be shuffled. If you ever have that feeling "I'm going to go for it, but I probably shouldn't." Then you probably shouldn't go for it. Be safe and enjoy the ride.
I watched his video in total. Riders should not take advice from him. The truth is he's setting a bad example of bad practices, even though he thinks he's helping new riders, his overconfidence could lead to disasters on the road, i a gree with your assessment ,defense driving is what keeps you safe, especially in motorcycles, and more in sport motorcycles.
Hi Kevin! You may not know, but your timing is perfect. Here in Poland both May 1st and May 3rd are national holidays, so we are having really long weekend. Add this to the fact of an outstanding weather and you have a perfect micture for loads of crasehs and other incidents on the roads...
Re this episode: it is another example, of McRider being the true #1 on the yt. Foolstop.
No Wodka Wyborowa before riding!
A couple of points to add:
* I have watched a lot of his content, he sounds convincing but he obviously has no formal training to coach anyone on how to ride. Experience is not always the best teacher.
* even in this segment, his default riding position (lane position 3) is not a good choice in that much traffic. There were several times where a car almost came over to share his lane. That is what he is inviting.
* he and others (and sometimes you, Kevin) quote some rather dated MSF BRC curricula points. For instance, the Slow-Look-Press-Roll curve strategy. While still mostly valid for beginners, the MSF Curve Strategy in the BRCu is SSS (Search-Setup-Smooth). Search far and near, side to side, set up speed and lane position at entry and be smooth with controls (mostly brakes/throttle).
Be safe (and careful) out there and we'll see you on the road.
Yes, I have been out of the MSF for about 6 years and not up to date on any changes in curriculum.
my larger point is that although Chase is well meaning, he has never been trained (unlike you) in any researched based curricula and therefore not really qualified to advise people on a lot of stuff. I hope no one gets hurt based on some of the things he says and does. Keep on doing what you do. I am glad you made this segment. Comments will be interesting.
I have definitely done well in my travels with your advice, and would not want to be using his advice. Thanks for the analysis!
Good stuff, appreciate the reminders 👍🏽
As a rule, I generally ride in the left wheel track. In most of Chases’s videos he’s in the right wheel track. However, in some camera angles, he left, center or right. It’s not the game LCR here but giving himself an “escape.” I’m glad that was covered.
I love your take on his videos and your interpretation. I agree with your point of view, especially for aging riders. This is not a personal dig toward you by any means. I’m an older rider too and these younger riders that just like to go fast need to watch and learn.
Surface appraisal
Environment conditions
Lane positioning
Head and eyes
Following/Travel distances
I’m tired of picking up their dead bodies from the roadside.
On multi lane roads here in traffic if you give 2-3 seconds following distance 2 cars will change lanes and take the space. My solution is to avoid multi lane roads as much as possible…
The easy solution is to slow up and recreate your safety zone. Part of the reason why that distance is there is to give others space to safely merge and change lanes. People forget that they should leave a gap so others can safely move as needed. The I must close the gap so others can't get in front of me mentality is responsible for a lot of avoidable rear-end collisions and often the result of impatience on the driver's part.
I see other riders following too close all the time. In fact, I would go so far as to say that people leaving a proper gap are very rare. That's sad, it's something you can control to make your ride safer and it doesn't cost you anything to do it.
The other thing I noticed was lane position. Chase was in the middle of the lane in every shot. You have to use the whole lane and actively change positions based on what is happening around you. In the first clip with the truck I would have been in the number three position, furthest left, because the lane beside me is empty. Setting yourself up to have a clear escape is probably just as important as giving yourself enough time and distance to execute a maneuver.
I think you have offered useful advice especially for new riders. There are things that bothered me about this video not the least of which was one hand on the bars while on the highway. I do admit to doing that myself with cruise control on so I can rest my right hand. In my defence I ride a Spyder so I am much more stable than a two-wheeler. Motovlogging is fine but the tendency to talk with you hands as you record live audio means your ability to control the bike is compromised and that is a problem at any speed but more so at high speed on the highway.
I have learned more about proper and safe (and responsible) motorcycle riding in the last few years than I learned from all the previous decades of riding. This fact is due mostly to you and your channel, so thank you Kevin. The materials you present contain few things I can disagree with, perhaps none, if that's possible and far fewer than any of the other riding videos. The only area where we disagree is religion, but its freedom of (and freedom from) religion is a vitally important reason why America is so great. Again, thanks for helping me to stay safe on my bike.
P.S. I help out at a motorcycle shop and I tell all the inexperienced riders to be sure to watch and pay close attention to YOUR videos (and fortnine too) if they want to live long enough to become an "old rider" like me.
Much wisdom here. Thanks Kevin.
Thanks Kevin, I couldn’t agree more. Watching this video made me nervous, I could not get comfortable with Chases following distance or lane positions. We all make errors, I don’t think I’ve ever had a “perfect” ride so I hope Chase takes any criticism he might get from this as constructive. I think we all want to see each other get home safe.
6:10 If Chase had been concerned about what was ahead of him, he wouldn't have been surprised when the truck driver started swerving. He'd have seen the traffic stopped ahead.
Yeah - "I can tell you that driver isn't paying attention..." 😅😅 How about HIM? 🇦🇺👍
I think it was more than not paying attention to what is happening far enough up the road. It was also poor lane position. His lane position made it difficult to see far enough up the road.
Making a how-to video but not setting the example is really a bad thing. I enjoy your videos but i appreciate your faith and sharing your faith more. Great video.
Thank you for another great video, Kevin.
During a recent conversation with a non-motorcyclist, he proudly told me he watches out for us and keeps a one to two car length distance behind us.
I thanked him and suggested keeping a two-second distance instead and explained why. He seemed appreciative and I feel he might actually do it.
Regarding looking ahead, I used to hear we need to be aware of what’s going on up to 4 seconds ahead of us at all times. More recently that’s been increased to 12 seconds - assuming we can see that far up the road, of course.
I am more inclined to pay more attention to my mirrors when I see something ahead of me that might require me to slow down or stop. I always try to be aware of what’s immediately around me, in all directions, for those unexpected situations where swerving or emergency braking may be required but it’s not easy as traffic conditions constantly change.
Ride safe, everyone.
You can do everything right and still get run over,
I was stopped at a traffic light. Had my escape paths
was in right lane, car behind me had stopped. This truck came
in from the left lane and nailed me. Did not see it coming. Riding
a bike is a constant learning experience.
I would add to the critique of Chases' video that his lane position is not the best, I have generally been advised to place my motorcycle in the drivers side wheel tracks so that the driver in front has the best chance of seeing me in the mirrors, but Chase tended to sit in the passenger side wheel tracks.
I've been on a couple of courses run by the French motorcycle police and they tell you to ride nearer to the side of the road than the middle unless positioning for a right bend
@@davidaldis8242 I have received instruction from British, New Zealand, and South African instructors, one of whom was a former Police motorcyclist, and while they encouraged the use of the whole lane, whether on a twisty section, or when positioning for safety, the default position has been behind the drivers side wheels to provide good visibility, and avoid debris which tends to accumulate closer to the kerb side of the lane.
Great job Kevin. Surprised you didn't mention the incorrect lane position Chase was riding in....at least it's incorrect for me.
Kevin, Could not agree more with your assertions regarding thinking/looking ahead and following distance. I'm a professional pilot and flight instructor. One of the sayings we have for guys who can't/don't get ahead of the plane is "the aircraft arrived over the runway threshold, but the pilot was on a one mile final".
Your additional comments are much appreciated/ you are a true professional ( Halifax, Nova Scotia).
The biggest challenge with creating a large stopping distance between the vehicle in front is all the other drivers cutting you off to take the space and then braking checking you. One way to safely prevent this (in heavy traffic) is to following a vehicle that cars don't like to follow like a bus or a semi. I do this with my truck and trailer all the time and having radar cruise makes it easy and safe. You also get protection from animal hits, less wind, fewer bugs but the down side is you have to be more aware of road garbage and of course the view is poor.
All good points in this video. Proper following distance is critical, but your speed might be the number on item on the safety list. Never speed through or around traffic. If you go the speed limit or a bit less, cars will see you more easily and your reaction ability will be increased. There's a time and place to enjoy your motorcycle's performance capabilities, choose wisely.
I think you were honest and helpful. I even use the same following distance that you recommend in my car. I always look as far up the road as I can along with a good following distance so that I can slow down more slowly allowing the driver behind me more time to react. Distracted drivers need extra time to react and I try to give it to them. Heck, even good drivers need time to react. Let's help both of them.
Lane position is definitely a very fluid thing and a thinking rider is always putting themselves in the best tactical spot on the roadway. I have personally witnessed a rider who was on the far left side of his lane passing vehicles in the right lane of a divided hiway where the vehicle that was being passed decided to pass the one in front of them. They may or may not have looked in the mirror but without a good shoulder check the bike running along the far left of the lane was missed and a collision almost happened. The rider then retaliated with road rage and made it worse. Yes the car was in the wrong but the rider could have likely avoided the whole issue by being in the right portion of their lane where the car driver should be able to see their headlight easily.
I always appreciate your videos Kevin. Hopefully he might see your video and maybe make some adjustments to his training videos. There's another trainer that I quit watching a while ago because in his travels he took both hands off of his handlebars which I know is against the law in every state and when I called back to his attention it's a bad thing for new riders to see he never responded. I then quit watching his videos. It is a good thing for a trainer to point out his mistakes but at that point they must stop making those mistakes because it will inflict bad habits on New Riders. Keep up the good work and I will see you on the road.
Is his name Motojitsu? 🤣😈
@@ZabDevin No Dan Dan the Fireman but don't tell him I said so...Actually he failed to respond to me, so I don't care if he knows or not. You can't do illegal or improper things on a training video. Teaching motorcycle safety is important, and a trainer should NEVER do things on their video to cause a new rider to think it is safe to do something.
@@BeaverDaveECV I concur.
Yes I agree with you on all points. My thoughts on Chase being on a sport bike tends to make me believe being on a sports bikes make me think those riders are always in a rush or hurry which lends to shorter trail/follow distances because their bikes are more capable than a touring or cruiser. And that leads to bad habits. The four wheel version of those drivers handle their vehicles often the same way seemingly always looking for a race or are stuck in "look at me" syndrome.
Im a conceal carry man and I often see quite often untrained gun carrying individuals feeling emboldened and empowered because they do have a weapon strapped to their hip.
What an extreme overgeneralization.
@@kurrie3280 yup. Unless I get feedback educating me, thats what I go with from where I sit based on what I see on the road but I don't think its so extreme. Overgeneralization, prolly. Cheers!
Great information Kevin. On rider distraction, I do listen to music while riding, but have noticed that my rider inputs are smoother and more consistent when I turn the music off. I don't know if this is due to me being more focused, the enhanced aural feedback, or a combination of factors, but it does improve my rider inputs. Keep up the great content.
Yes, I listen to music frequently as well...but it has to be the right kind of music. Some music makes me think too much about the lyrics but if I stick to 70s and 80s rock I can listen without too much distraction.
@@MCriderI bet you sing as well😂😂
Good advice as usual. I try to know what is happening as far a head as I can see. That way I can avoid anyone stopping, turning or doing something stupid etc. Following too close not only makes it more likely you will rear end the car ahead but doesn't give you a way out to avoid objects on the road or broken pavement etc. that could cause a crash.
love your videos. chase on two wheels is mostly for entertainment. your videos are more accurate, especially your statistics.
Never heard of him.
no loss to my riding.
A very respectful and useful commentary. I have added chaseontwowheels to my list of safety related videos to watch.
Good info and I pretty much agree with your constructive criticism. I'd cut a bit more slack on distance in town due to the low speed and M/C braking performance. The freeway danger from behind comment is just bad advice in my opinion.
Agreed on the highway distance. Did a ride from New Braunfels to home on 35 and 130, turned my cruise control on at appropriate times, but kept myself at a few miles below the speed limit to "force" riders behind me to pass. I also kept a far distance between myself and any vehicle in front of me.
I really appreciate this video, sir. I just bought a new bike and I’m trying to get back into riding. I sure need more content like this thanks.
Kevin, loved the fact that you supported Chris on 2 wheels video help riders.. every Iinstructor should open to criticism by a fellow channel TH-cam instructor. It shows your maturity to handle criticism when applied in a constructive manner.
It was a great perspective on someone else's video. I like it. I do it all the time when I am driving and watching someone on a motorcycle.
You are entitled to your opinion. As following close to other vehicles as not as bad as you portray to be... it all depends on the situation
What are the advantages of following closely?
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1. Let's just example when you travel in 2 pane road going through same direction and weather you traveling on motorcycle on left or right lane and if there is a car on left and you on right and when you creating a safe distance from vehicle in front of you you are in blind spot of vehicle to your left or to your right depend on which lane you traveling on. It creates a hazardous situation because as we all know a lot of people do not check their blind spot. I would rather take my chances with my ability to break or avoid collision from the vehicle in front of me and fully depend on the ability of my progressive and on time breaking then getting swept by vehicle to my right or left.
2. Let's just say vehicle behind you is tailgating you and you have no choice by reposition motorcycle to your left or right and move just a little closer to a vehicle in front of you. In case vehicle in front decide emergency break and vehicle behind me can sandwich me however of you position yourself all the way to your right or left and with decent ability to of breaking and swerving.
3. In case you traveling on highway and there is an empty HOV lane and you going relatively fast I'd say 60-70 miles and hour and right lane is all backed up and if you traveling far you know how many people try swerve into HOV lane they wait for the vehicle in front of you to pass it do not see you. So I'd rather follow closely to vehicle in front of me and leaving no gap for vehicle swipe me right after vehicle in front of you to pass and that vehicle can on right can swerve into HOV lane and not able to swipe you but if you smart and enough and u can travel on very left of HOV lane and in case vehicle in front will brake hard you can swerve into little emergency curb of HOV lane....
I can go even more examples.... problem is most riders you are right not able to break decently and either grab brakes hard or panic do not brake at all
@@MCrider I always say ride your ride. Do not criticize someone unless you are perfect. You have been a motorcycle instructor means nothing honestly simple because I know half of the motorcycle instructors do not know what the hell they are doing... matter of opinion.
You can go by I disagree with chaseon2wheels and say I prefer and advice doing this but do not say they are wrong doing something
You are 100 percent right. He is consistently too close, and always rides way over to the left, which means he has less choice of escape routes.
thankyou so much for the educational videos!
You had a lot of valid points. Thank you for your input keep two on the ground.
Many of these are not just rider issues, they're driver issues too. Especially following distance. A 2 second minimum following distance should also be observed between cars. Fun fact, the reason highway traffic bunches up for no apparent reason is because of drivers not following at a safe distance. When they need to hit the brakes, the resulting cascade of brakes behind them creates the traffic jam. In brief: Hate traffic? Stop tailgating.
You also need to be on the right or the left side of that vehicle whichever side has more space in case the vehicle behind you decide not to stop that puts you out of the way or gives you a place to go so that he doesn't hit you
Lately, I've been hearing a lot of folks state that one should ride faster than the traffic around them. With comments about, any trouble is then always in front of them. I think it's just an excuse to go zoom. When you're coming up on another vehicle, they have have less chance to see you. And, so many people change lanes without checking their mirrors, or just a cursory glance that you're putting yourself in danger by always being in someones blind spot.
Forget following distance, how about his lane position? I don't think I could watch more of his videos. That lane position thing is killing me...
The only real way to protect yourself from being hit from behind is to make sure you have enough space in front of you. No matter what kind of vehicle I am in, I have between 3 and 4 seconds in front of me before the next vehicle especially on the highway. If you ever want to double check how good of a driver you are, go riding on the highways near the time when Spring break has just released all college students to go home for break. Between that city and the next will have the largest consolidated group of people you never want to be on the road with and if you are an experienced driver or rider, you will be the only thing between them and certain death because they mostly have zero sense of how much space should be between cars at 75 mph. Since you can't get out and train 10k people all at once, your only option is a massive amount of space in front of you and very gradual changes with a lot of signaling lead time. If you have to stop suddenly on the highway and you didn't leave enough space or communicate what's going to happen in enough time, you are not going to get hit with one car, you are going to be hit by about 100 of them. The only difference between that scenario and normal is slightly fewer cars.
Following distance.
In my area, people are used to driving in the city, where they feel it's polite to leave as small of a gap as possible to what's in front of them, to allow more cars to fit per city block. Valid point.
But when they drive in the country roads, they still keep this mentality and I hate it.
I keep a 6 second to 12 second gap in front of me, because that's about how long it takes for a car to slow down and turn off the road. By the time they're off the road, I've still got a few seconds of stopping distance buffer, and I don't have to turn off cruise control.
But, some jackass gets behind me, and sees a gap in front, passes me, then cuts me off (down to a 1-second gap if not closer because they don't account for speed here, only physical distance... if it fits, they sits), and I then can only slow down and re-create my gap.
The fun part of this is when I'm following a car, the car behind me passes me, then I recreate the distance, and the first lead car hits brakes to turn off, and I then pass the car that passed me without turning off my cruise control and they get downright pissed off about it, especially when the passing zones end.
Always assume EVERYONE in a car or truck will do something stupid, pull in front of you, etc.
First thing I do is try to ride where there is as little traffic as possible. I live in Northcentral Pa. If I lived in Atlanta or some such place, I wouldn't have a motorcycle.
Great observances - thank you! Front always first.
We all get complacent at times… We easily forget how we are exposed to danger every time we put the helmet on 👍🏼
Good stuff as always Kevin! Cheers from Frisco
Salute Bradda
well done.
Great video, Kevin. Thanks for sharing this.👍👍😊
Thanks Kevin!
Hello from Indiana
Always Three Steamboats following distance for me 🇨🇦
KEVIN 0:49 SECONDS LOL !!!!! 🙂
Dear Kevin, Good thing you never adopted that "helmet method", to me that would be No Accountability and I would dismiss those videos in less 10 seconds of watching. Please keep up with showing who you are and be proud of all your guidance by sharing your valuable experience. Ride Safe, Thank You!
Half second following distance is tailgating. 🤦
Why do you allow your self to be tailgated? Move on or move over!
Hardly ever am I being tailgated.
Good comments.
I've been riding since 1985. I've usually stopped directly center of the vehicle in front of me at intersections so they can see me in the center mirror. I was recently informed that it's better to possion behind their driver's mirror. What are your thoughts?
The thing about riders on the suburbs is that you really can’t enjoy a motorcycle at its fullest. Between Walmarts and Olive gardens is pretty pathetic.
Those that follow closely? WTH
Public roads are the most dangerous place for a motorcycle.
I doubt those that follow closely cover the front brake when riding in cities or parking lots.
(One of many tips from Yamaha Champions)
where i live in central jersey u give a 3 car buffer between yourself and car in front and u will get the vehicle behind u to just cross center lines and pass u and thats local roads 35 mph or less these people have got a bag of twice fried fritters sitting on the seat next to them and the 5 alarm volcanic dipping sauce just doesnt taste right if the fritters are cold ! its mayhem-getam out there !
‘Only a fool breaks the 2 Second Rule’, is what I use as a distant reference
Just for info, Colorado will have lane filtering legal Aug 1st.
Personally I do 2 second gap 90% of the time. On the interstate closer to 3 seconds.
He is also a really nice guy.
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I think chase's comments towards the end of 'I need to worry about whats behind me' is an experienced riders take on the highway- he's got the front under control, he can affect what happens in the front, he can't influence what happens behind him so he wants to be more aware of it than just looking forward. This is a weird video to be posted as a response 2 years later - did you ask him if it was cool to use his content as a teaching tool? I'm sure he would have agreed, but the timing seems super odd
Thought this was a Lou Elizondo video! Doppelgängers
Personally I don’t like his choice of lane position. I will generally rather be in the left track which puts me in the same position, relatively speaking, as the drivers in the cars ahead and behind. Especially in traffic situations when making right turns, he doesn’t have command of the lane, and some drivers will tend to pull up beside a bike in this position.
On the interstate I stay close to the center line. You can see farther up to road and from my experience, more dumb stuff happens closer to either shoulder. Truck tires, potholes and debris in general.
Some things just need to be said. I didn't hear any cheap shots. Chase may see it differently. Oh well!
his biggest issue is that he's riding 80% of the time with 1 hand :) He's on wrong motorbike if he can't reach the handlebars :)
Dude, I NEVER got to "1 thousand & 1"...... I prefer 3 - 2 absolute minimum !!!!
Lane position you most be see
Cameras don't show distance same as the real world, its is a skewed perspective :D like mirrors, objects looks closer or further than real distance :D
Correct, and in this instance the car is much closer than it appears in the camera.
So glad you did this video. I saw the original and was somewhat concerned about what he was doing and saying. I’m surprised you didn’t mention his advice on watching the front wheels of vehicles in traffic to determine whether or not they were going to change lanes. I specifically don’t watch anything but rather scan constantly. For new riders this advice may lead them into serious trouble. I also didn’t like his lane position or travelling in the centre lane of a 3 lane road. Traveling in the centre lane just doubles your work load keeping track of the other vehicles. I think you went easy on him!
First I ever heard of him. Not sure its entirely fair to make video to point out his errors, He did post it as instruction so fair game to comment. He isn't leaving much room in front. He might get more views now.
Last summer leaving Anchorage, I had to brake hard and stop suddenly on the highway, A car a few in front had hit the brakes. Fortunately my following distance was adequate and I stopped ok. The car behind me had to go off onto the shoulder to avoid hitting me. I didn't even realize he was too close until after. So he has a point.
Stopping behind the car at the lights. Kind of close.
Have you ever seen any footage of a rider. Actually avoiding a rear end shunt by escaping? Or heard from a rider first hand.
I just stopped hard my attention was entirely in front of me i had enough distance i even had an escape route. I didn't have time to react. Fortunately the driver did have an escape and used it.
Ok, I am no good example of a rider. But in 30 years, I have learned how to own the road I am on. Some people see your light and assume you are tailgating. Yes Karen will break check you. She will chase you down and yell at you like the planet is hers, she will merge into your lane and then blame you. Cops will look for any reason to blame you if you are not on a 30K Harley. Set rules for yourself. If you wish to cut up. no traffic, no cross streets, and no people walking in the direction you plan to cut up.
I gave up on Chaseontwowheels a long time ago. Was watching a bike rebuild he was doing and he snapped a bolt off because when he read the torque spec he assumed it was in ft-lbs instead of in-lb. He impressed me as someone who didn't pay attention to the details because of that.
Won’t we talk about how bad his positioning on the road is? He‘s hiding on the right side like a bicycle where he can‘t be seen early and can‘t look as far as if he would ride close to the middle. Don‘t hide on your bike is what i was told and think it makes sense.
even worse, riding in large groups of motobikes...one reason i go solo..i feel safer
I know Chase is well intended but if he’s going to publish a video like that his recommendations should be better researched.
Lane position in most cases seems improper should be on left side of road to be seen and see better