No shame in spending $400 on a PCP that performs as well (if not better ) than a $1, 600 one, amazing. Fit and finish may not be better but in the end, accuracy counts. Very informative and good video, thank you chaps.
@@WiscAirGunners good news, a drill bit hole in the bottom of the avenger rifle's stock and spray in expanding foam with the extension straw start deep and work out the foam will expand and fill the space taking away the hollow sound. smiles and keep it light. the last word @airgunz_militia you tube
@@WiscAirGunners i just gifted my bullpup .25cal to a person with a hand pump because they do not have a pcp. and i also gave them a txt file with all my advice and tunes for that avenger. i used two monocore vented baffles and no supresser at all and just drilled the second monocore out to ahalf inch and slid it onto the barrel with thick felt in between the barrel spacer and another between the two monocore baffles. all of it centered with the o-rings that come with them, and very quiet. and i am getting a custom avenger next in rifl format. smiles enjoy... wish i knew how to open and take out the hammerspring and change it for better stuff. but being blind , doing that disassembly without way more details than i listen to in any vvideo , is not going to happen. need those details or i won't do it. smiles but what i could do with the details, if i knew what tool and where the fastener was exactly, and how to adjust or fiddle with this or that, well if i had all that i would start by removing the barrel , which i have never done, do not know how to start , because was never verbally told where the screws are that hold it on. giggles, yeah no one ever siad hey they are right here in this area and ther are this many and you use this allen key . nope they just assume that everyone listening can see. uggg. well i would drill the barrel ports out larger and bevel them on the outside and polish the inside and ge more energy that the rifle currently can acheive. next, i would find a magazine that feels like the avengers but is deeper and i would cut the bolt housing back that far and make the new deeper mag work. i mean it just fits over the end of the barrel in that fitting there right, giggles. and what next, hmmm i would figure out how to decrease thereg a bit at a time by shooting it down pst the desired reg pressure so the reg is below that pressure and then the reg should adjust down till it starts getting tight and you know that you are there and should stop before you damage it. duh... but there are people not that intelliget around so shhhh. well thanks for makig better videos than i do friend, because if i could see, well i would be doing alot more than recovering from a broken hip. these days. good day
"That doesn't fit in this case anymore" no truer words ever spoken. LOL. Probably the least of anyone's real concern in life but none-the-less still true. :) Enjoyed the comparison. Thanks for sharing your time and effort gentlemen!
Great video, I removed the cheek weld piece and installed a soft pad/ Velcro cloth . Doing so you can actually get your eye behind the scope. 👍👍 Also if you remove the travel adjustment screw there are 4 flat washers remove them and reinstall the screw, the trigger is great after .
I'm thinking my buddy Emil Hopf also removing the detent that indexes the cheek weld is an easy accomplishment.👍And a great improvement the cheek weld can still be used after..
The bull pup is a good shooter. I took the four silver washers off the front screw on the trigger and now it’s smooth as glass glad I bought it . Another great video pj
Lots of respect to you fellas for this video. It was 100% fair, objective, and it didn't feel like a sales pitch. I do hope you do this again at 75 yards. I feel that would tell a lot more of the story. It's truly a golden era to be into airguns right now. I feel it's just going to keep getting better from here.
My hopes are that this video is the standard going forward. For all channels. This is how it should be done. Paid reviews just aren't the way. Honesty. That's the way.
Well first off great job! Was trying to dedicate between the Beeman and Hatsan budget gun but for just a smidgen more I do believe it will be this Avenger! Thanks for this great vid and the several paragraphs trying to discourage me from watching!
Excellent video. 🎯 I really enjoyed this. Especially you guys discussing the rifles. I wish more people did this. Comparison between different guns without arguing and disrespect is badly needed in this industry. I plan on getting the Impact Compact. But some of the "fan boys " terrible attitudes almost made me change my mind. Perhaps Fredrik Axelsson will see this and appreciate the professional manner in which you guys made this video. God bless you both. 👍
I use QD scope rings so I can put the bullpup avenger in a 36”x17” Plano hard case. I have compressor, gun, leupold 4-16x44 vr3 scope, target, and ammo for about the same cost as the Daystate factory price. Using a Li battery powered compressor from Amazon to fill the gun. Using .216 23 gr slugs right now as the goto ammo. Enjoyed the video!
@@ErebosOnTwoWheels I'm not sure about the one he's referenced in his comment, but you might want to check out the @targetforge Yong Heng Hot Rod Shop series, he's doing some serious scientific analysis of the performance of affordable compressors.
Great video. As the owner of a Brocock Bantam Sniper XR Magnum in .25 and a Benjamin Gunnar in .22, which are both rather lengthy, I may have to consider an Avenger bullpup in either .177 or .22. The benefit of getting one in .22 is I already have .22 ammo for the Gunnar, which hopefully something would work well in both. For a .177 I would expect a higher shot count than the .22 version. Even though I’d have to buy ammo specific for the Avenger, the cost of .177 is considerably less than even .22 pellets and slugs. I have some decisions to make.
I had several rats that were not fans of the Venturi Bullpup in 177. I bought it to see if a rat would run off or drop on the spot with that small caliber. I adjusted the reg and hammer spring down to minimum and shot 8.02 grain Polymag pellets out at 935 fps. Added the Donny FL with the shroud extension, and it’s backyard at midnight quiet. Each rat went down lights out. Pin point accuracy. I just don’t understand why the rats don’t like it.
By itself, no, but something like a Sumo on it will bring it down to where the pellet hitting the target will be about as loud, if not louder, than the Avenger going off.
Funny you used a Dodge Dart. When I was in high school my car was a 57 Chevy. My cousin and I were our on the drag ( in the 60's it was from one hamburger stand to another) a person from my autoshop pulled along side and wanted to race his car against me and it was a Dodge Dart. I agreed when the light change his car front end came off the ground and did this every time he changed gears. When I caught up with hume ha had taken a wreak Dodge Supper Bee with the 440 magnum and installed the Dodge Supper Bee's complete drivetrain and including the 440 Magnum engine in the Dodge Dart. You could not tell this change had been made.
Man! Right when I try and talk myself out of buying one of these (and compressor and fill tank etc) I watch this video. Now I only have one decision to make... .22 or .25??
Estheicly the Pulsar. It`s a beauty .Price wise the Air Venturi . I love power adjustments so bad and so the Pulsar would be my favorite ....but the price !!!! Last year it was 2000+ english pounds . now? My guess is 2800 £/ 3000$ ?? I will wach the vid to the end and we`ll see. Thanks PJ
While the video was well put together and the shooting done with equal effort between the guns, showing upmost fairness to both……all i could really think was, man i wish i had a beard like PJ.
There are only so many ways you can make a bullpup. They all look very similar. It looks more like my Huban k1 than the Pulsar. The original Avenger I own has hammer sprung itself to pieces after 30 tins of JSB knockouts. I guess for the price it still put enough meat on the table to pay itself 4 times over. No regrets.
I don't have a K1, and now that I think of it have only seen them in videos. You are right that there are only so many ways to present a bullpup, or a rifle for that matter.
It's a great comparison and great video, but I would caution against buyers only looking at this example. With PCPs, you tend to het what you pay for. Fit and finish and R&D are incredibly important for long term enjoyment.
Thanks for that. I agree whole-heartedly. Tyler Patner gave a great answer to a question yesterday on Instagram on the Pyramyd Air page. One of the things most of us don't experience is the consistency you get airgun to airgun with higher priced models. Our goal for this video was to see if the Avenger could "hang," not to imply that they were equal.
@WiscAirGunners Absolutely! It's important that these comparisons be made and published, as it ultimately benefits all shooters and keeps manufacturers on their toes. Your video was eye-opening, intelligent and thoroughly enjoyable! New subscriber here.
We always like watching the shooting thats why we watch, and to learn . I have a question would a Daystate survive a solar flare sorry it just keeps sticking in my mind.
@@terminadorairgunsandoutdoors I agree with that. I still feel this was one of the most honest and well presented airgun videos I've ever watched. In all honesty comparing a $3k airgun vs a $300 one is much different than the 22 vs 177 aspect of it all. As well as electronic vs mechanical. Ideally, I'd have loved if they had the same caliber, but it is what it is. I do feel the 22 will have a significant advantage over the 177 @ 75 yards. I still don't care. I'd just be happy if they push it out to 75 regardless.
Awesome video. I love to see head to head stuff. O SNAP....wife said if I like that scope I better ask what it is while we have tax $. Soooo what are u running on ur "Bullvenger" my friend?
It’s in there, and others have commented on it. It was 20 yards. We lived hours apart and both had busy and demanding jobs, and we picked a date to shoot and put it on the calendar. When the day arrived the weather was too much of a factor so we pushed on as best as we could and shot indoors and 20 yards was all we could make.
27:30 why isn`t Daystate place the cockin leaver next to the trigger gard because it is electronic ! It must be easy to pull some cables to the solenoid !! I guess :))
Thanks guys, for the money I cant believe the Daystate has a rear cocking lever. Id pay more for either gun for a forward (over the trigger) cocking lever. This is why I am also considering the Artemis P35.
Hello and good evening. I am very new to airgunning and looking to buy my first. I am looking for something around the $1000 range that can be used for hunting, personal defense, and home defense. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Oh yeah, I live up in Eagle River. 🧀🧀🧀
There is lots of debate on airguns for home defense. Many are strongly against that idea, and there are solid reasons for that. If I set that aside, you'll probably need to decide what you are wanting to hunt in order for me to make anything close to a recommendation.
excellent video, but single load or magazine does not make a difference in accuracy. If your mag is not broke it should not bother the pellet at all. I have tested this over and over again and it does not matter. If it did you had better just stick to sling shots lol
nice vdeo,.i only have one point of criticism......you always treat a gun as if it is loaded, why is the avenger pointed at Noah .. is an absolute no go
It’s the perspective shift from the 3d world to the 2d of video. Both muzzles were pointed in safe directions relative to where we were seated. Sorry to cause concern.
Great job comparing orange to tomatos! Diferent caliber, trajectory, pellets. At the same time you could compere it to 22lr, they are also guns and shoot...😂
All valid points. What we set out to do was see if one airgun could keep up with the other. That’s it. The Avenger clearly isn’t as refined as the more expensive Pulsar, but can it get the job done given the conditions we had to work with? Nothing more. We couldn’t shoot the .22lr in that environment for a variety of safety and legal reasons.
You're just looking for a hunting rifle or anything about 75 yards and in the avenger is about the best you can buy for the money the day States and air arms and fx's are way overpriced in comparison.
I dont own a pulsar but I do own a daystate renegade My boy has a avenger I like the uk quality but at list mine is not accurate like impact My son keeps up with his avenger against my impact sniper My renegade is nice but not really a gun you can modify like avenger or impact
Avengers leak like the Titanic ! For 3 years now , every spring , those piles of trash need to be resealed !! .177,.22,.25 , all 3 leakers. This year I had enough because, like clockwork , all 3 were empty once again! I disassembled them , and dropped them in the scrapyard where they all belong. I HAD A SHOP DO THE WORK SO NO , IT'S NOT MY WORK! I will never buy an Air Venturi product again! I'm out over $1,000.00 in air gun trash.
No shame in spending $400 on a PCP that performs as well (if not better ) than a $1, 600 one, amazing. Fit and finish may not be better but in the end, accuracy counts. Very informative and good video, thank you chaps.
Thanks for watching!
I feel as though this is the most professional, honest review on air guns I have seen and I have been watching tons of them.
I love this! More please. Honesty and
integrity...are priceless. Real shooters ...and real results. KUDOS
Thank you!
@@WiscAirGunners good news, a drill bit hole in the bottom of the avenger rifle's stock and spray in expanding foam with the extension straw start deep and work out the foam will expand and fill the space taking away the hollow sound. smiles and keep it light.
the last word
@airgunz_militia
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@@AIRGUNZ_MILITIA nice.
@@WiscAirGunners i just gifted my bullpup .25cal to a person with a hand pump because they do not have a pcp. and i also gave them a txt file with all my advice and tunes for that avenger. i used two monocore vented baffles and no supresser at all and just drilled the second monocore out to ahalf inch and slid it onto the barrel with thick felt in between the barrel spacer and another between the two monocore baffles. all of it centered with the o-rings that come with them, and very quiet. and i am getting a custom avenger next in rifl format. smiles enjoy...
wish i knew how to open and take out the hammerspring and change it for better stuff. but being blind , doing that disassembly without way more details than i listen to in any vvideo , is not going to happen. need those details or i won't do it.
smiles but what i could do with the details,
if i knew what tool and where the fastener was exactly, and how to adjust or fiddle with this or that, well if i had all that i would start by removing the barrel , which i have never done, do not know how to start , because was never verbally told where the screws are that hold it on. giggles, yeah no one ever siad hey they are right here in this area and ther are this many and you use this allen key . nope they just assume that everyone listening can see. uggg.
well i would drill the barrel ports out larger and bevel them on the outside and polish the inside and ge more energy that the rifle currently can acheive.
next, i would find a magazine that feels like the avengers but is deeper and i would cut the bolt housing back that far and make the new deeper mag work.
i mean it just fits over the end of the barrel in that fitting there right, giggles.
and what next, hmmm i would figure out how to decrease thereg a bit at a time by shooting it down pst the desired reg pressure so the reg is below that pressure and then the reg should adjust down till it starts getting tight and you know that you are there and should stop before you damage it. duh...
but there are people not that intelliget around so shhhh.
well thanks for makig better videos than i do friend, because if i could see, well i would be doing alot more than recovering from a broken hip. these days. good day
@@AIRGUNZ_MILITIA you’ve got ambition, that’s for sure! I’ll keep you in mind in my descriptions of the work I’m doing in future videos.
Excellent video! I've been on the fence about the avenger bullpup. This answered all of my questions.
Glad to help out.
"That doesn't fit in this case anymore" no truer words ever spoken. LOL. Probably the least of anyone's real concern in life but none-the-less still true. :) Enjoyed the comparison. Thanks for sharing your time and effort gentlemen!
Glad you enjoyed it!
What a great video. Open, honest and informative. Appreciated.
Thank you!
GREAT VIDEO! Keep em coming PJ! Liking my avenger so far. Cant wait to stretch mine out, but it gets windy here in Wisconsin by the lake.
I know what you mean!
Great video, I removed the cheek weld piece and installed a soft pad/ Velcro cloth . Doing so you can actually get your eye behind the scope. 👍👍 Also if you remove the travel adjustment screw there are 4 flat washers remove them and reinstall the screw, the trigger is great after .
You are the second person who has mentioned that with the trigger. I'll have to check that out.
I'm thinking my buddy Emil Hopf also removing the detent that indexes the cheek weld is an easy accomplishment.👍And a great improvement the cheek weld can still be used after..
Man, I HIGHLY enjoyed this. Thanks for the great content!!!
Glad you enjoyed it!
The bull pup is a good shooter. I took the four silver washers off the front screw on the trigger and now it’s smooth as glass glad I bought it . Another great video pj
Thank you Randy!
Lots of respect to you fellas for this video. It was 100% fair, objective, and it didn't feel like a sales pitch.
I do hope you do this again at 75 yards. I feel that would tell a lot more of the story.
It's truly a golden era to be into airguns right now. I feel it's just going to keep getting better from here.
My hopes are that this video is the standard going forward. For all channels. This is how it should be done. Paid reviews just aren't the way. Honesty. That's the way.
So many options! It can be dizzying.
Great video and a great reason to get your hands on an affordable bullpup with great performance👍🏽👍🏽🤤🤤
Truth!
Well first off great job! Was trying to dedicate between the Beeman and Hatsan budget gun but for just a smidgen more I do believe it will be this Avenger! Thanks for this great vid and the several paragraphs trying to discourage me from watching!
I do what I can!
I truly love these comparison reviews . People have choices latest and the greatest doesn't mean is the best bang for your money. Thank you God bless
You are welcome.
You two are a blast to watch ty vm.
Thanks!
Great comparison. Well done!
Thank you!
Excellent video. 🎯
I really enjoyed this. Especially you guys discussing the rifles. I wish more people did this. Comparison between different guns without arguing and disrespect is badly needed in this industry.
I plan on getting the Impact Compact. But some of the "fan boys " terrible attitudes almost made me change my mind.
Perhaps Fredrik Axelsson will see this and appreciate the professional manner in which you guys made this video.
God bless you both. 👍
Thank you Heith!
Great Job PJ!
Thank you!
I use QD scope rings so I can put the bullpup avenger in a 36”x17” Plano hard case. I have compressor, gun, leupold 4-16x44 vr3 scope, target, and ammo for about the same cost as the Daystate factory price. Using a Li battery powered compressor from Amazon to fill the gun. Using .216 23 gr slugs right now as the goto ammo. Enjoyed the video!
Thanks. Sounds like a great setup!
Could you share a little info on that compressor, please? Sounds interesting.
@@ErebosOnTwoWheels I'm not sure about the one he's referenced in his comment, but you might want to check out the @targetforge Yong Heng Hot Rod Shop series, he's doing some serious scientific analysis of the performance of affordable compressors.
Great video. As the owner of a Brocock Bantam Sniper XR Magnum in .25 and a Benjamin Gunnar in .22, which are both rather lengthy, I may have to consider an Avenger bullpup in either .177 or .22. The benefit of getting one in .22 is I already have .22 ammo for the Gunnar, which hopefully something would work well in both. For a .177 I would expect a higher shot count than the .22 version. Even though I’d have to buy ammo specific for the Avenger, the cost of .177 is considerably less than even .22 pellets and slugs. I have some decisions to make.
A .177 is loads of fun to shoot!
I had several rats that were not fans of the Venturi Bullpup in 177. I bought it to see if a rat would run off or drop on the spot with that small caliber. I adjusted the reg and hammer spring down to minimum and shot 8.02 grain Polymag pellets out at 935 fps. Added the Donny FL with the shroud extension, and it’s backyard at midnight quiet. Each rat went down lights out. Pin point accuracy. I just don’t understand why the rats don’t like it.
They are funny about stuff like that. At least that's what I've heard.
935 fps is too fast for most .177
Would the Avenger .25 be consider backyard friendly ? I have a .25 marauder if Avenger is same or louder? Thanks any info
By itself, no, but something like a Sumo on it will bring it down to where the pellet hitting the target will be about as loud, if not louder, than the Avenger going off.
I added a Donny FL Tatsu on my 25 cal bullpup and it quieted it down to neighbor friendly results. Hope that helps.
Outstanding review...
Thank you very much.
Funny you used a Dodge Dart. When I was in high school my car was a 57 Chevy. My cousin and I were our on the drag ( in the 60's it was from one hamburger stand to another) a person from my autoshop pulled along side and wanted to race his car against me and it was a Dodge Dart. I agreed when the light change his car front end came off the ground and did this every time he changed gears. When I caught up with hume ha had taken a wreak Dodge Supper Bee with the 440 magnum and installed the Dodge Supper Bee's complete drivetrain and including the 440 Magnum engine in the Dodge Dart. You could not tell this change had been made.
That is AWESOME!
Man! Right when I try and talk myself out of buying one of these (and compressor and fill tank etc) I watch this video. Now I only have one decision to make... .22 or .25??
Glad to help!
Estheicly the Pulsar. It`s a beauty .Price wise the Air Venturi . I love power adjustments so bad and so the Pulsar would be my favorite ....but the price !!!! Last year it was 2000+ english pounds . now? My guess is 2800 £/ 3000$ ?? I will wach the vid to the end and we`ll see. Thanks PJ
Glad you enjoyed it.
What’s the guidelines on draining tank pressure when not using the gun?
I leave PCP rifles full, or wherever they are at the end of a shooting session.
While the video was well put together and the shooting done with equal effort between the guns, showing upmost fairness to both……all i could really think was, man i wish i had a beard like PJ.
When you get to be fifty you can have one!
I appreciate your opinion
@@exmcairgunner I’m glad to have the opportunity to share it.
Just put in my order for an Avenger Bullpup today. Bias 100% confirmed.
You won't regret it.
There are only so many ways you can make a bullpup. They all look very similar. It looks more like my Huban k1 than the Pulsar. The original Avenger I own has hammer sprung itself to pieces after 30 tins of JSB knockouts. I guess for the price it still put enough meat on the table to pay itself 4 times over. No regrets.
I don't have a K1, and now that I think of it have only seen them in videos. You are right that there are only so many ways to present a bullpup, or a rifle for that matter.
It's a great comparison and great video, but I would caution against buyers only looking at this example. With PCPs, you tend to het what you pay for. Fit and finish and R&D are incredibly important for long term enjoyment.
Thanks for that. I agree whole-heartedly. Tyler Patner gave a great answer to a question yesterday on Instagram on the Pyramyd Air page. One of the things most of us don't experience is the consistency you get airgun to airgun with higher priced models. Our goal for this video was to see if the Avenger could "hang," not to imply that they were equal.
@WiscAirGunners Absolutely! It's important that these comparisons be made and published, as it ultimately benefits all shooters and keeps manufacturers on their toes. Your video was eye-opening, intelligent and thoroughly enjoyable! New subscriber here.
@@brostelio Glad to have you on board!
38:03 NO ONE was expecting to hear those words in this video!
Least of all Noah.
We always like watching the shooting thats why we watch, and to learn . I have a question would a Daystate survive a solar flare sorry it just keeps sticking in my mind.
@@gregorybaker9277 one of their non-electronic models, no problem. I’m not sure what the electronics on the Pulsar can withstand.
You lost me when you said “to keep things consistent”, but the rifles are different calibers to compare. But I was also lost at 20 yards.
I hope they do it again at 75. I feel that is going to tell more of the story.
@@joshuagibson2520 177 & 22 are totally different animals. Hard to compare.
@@terminadorairgunsandoutdoors I agree with that. I still feel this was one of the most honest and well presented airgun videos I've ever watched.
In all honesty comparing a $3k airgun vs a $300 one is much different than the 22 vs 177 aspect of it all. As well as electronic vs mechanical. Ideally, I'd have loved if they had the same caliber, but it is what it is. I do feel the 22 will have a significant advantage over the 177 @ 75 yards. I still don't care. I'd just be happy if they push it out to 75 regardless.
@@joshuagibson2520 Suit yorself. Imo watch sum mo udder vidioz dat ain’t like watchin paint dry.
@@terminadorairgunsandoutdoors lol. It was a little slower paced, but I did enjoy it. Take care man.
Awesome video. I love to see head to head stuff. O SNAP....wife said if I like that scope I better ask what it is while we have tax $. Soooo what are u running on ur "Bullvenger" my friend?
Hawke Airmax 30 FFP 4-16x50 SF, AMX IR, 1/10 MRAD, 30mm
Hope it helps.
Wow thanks for the prompt response. Now let's see if shes try to her word.
@@braddenty503 You've got this!
I did not hear what yardage you were shooting these rifles at. It’s a good idea to mention it before you start shooting thank you.
It’s in there, and others have commented on it.
It was 20 yards. We lived hours apart and both had busy and demanding jobs, and we picked a date to shoot and put it on the calendar. When the day arrived the weather was too much of a factor so we pushed on as best as we could and shot indoors and 20 yards was all we could make.
saving my money now!
nice music at the end !!!
Thanks!
The sumo susspressor work well with the Advger?
It’s better on the bullpup than the original rifle due to how the shrouds are constructed/supported.
Did you ever get the 3d printed cheek rest? I’m debating between the bull pup and traditional rifle for my first PCP.
Still working on it. I'm shooting it without the cheek piece...sort of bareback right now.
27:30 why isn`t Daystate place the cockin leaver next to the trigger gard because it is electronic ! It must be easy to pull some cables to the solenoid !! I guess :))
I think it's because they have converted the action from a rifle, as opposed to designing an action from the ground up.
My air Venturi pup 2 never leaves my side in the woods, don’t even think about my cartridge guns anymore and I shoot every single day now for pennies
Isn't that just the best!
Thanks guys, for the money I cant believe the Daystate has a rear cocking lever. Id pay more for either gun for a forward (over the trigger) cocking lever. This is why I am also considering the Artemis P35.
I think it had to do with the origin of the bullpup...a rifle action.
Hello and good evening.
I am very new to airgunning and looking to buy my first. I am looking for something around the $1000 range that can be used for hunting, personal defense, and home defense. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Oh yeah, I live up in Eagle River. 🧀🧀🧀
There is lots of debate on airguns for home defense. Many are strongly against that idea, and there are solid reasons for that.
If I set that aside, you'll probably need to decide what you are wanting to hunt in order for me to make anything close to a recommendation.
I want the Avenger so badly
No reason not to go for it!
@@WiscAirGunners you are correct.
You will not be disappointed in the Avenger.
@@stevengoodman3498 you have a .22 or .25
@@jeremyblackwater439 I have the 25 cal.
excellent video, but single load or magazine does not make a difference in accuracy. If your mag is not broke it should not bother the pellet at all. I have tested this over and over again and it does not matter. If it did you had better just stick to sling shots lol
try it with the gun in a vice at a indoor range.
That has not always been my experience with rifles that use a pin probe, but I respect your experience as well.
The guy on the right was not honest, air gun was pointing exactly at his head 😂
Great video but shouldnt you have done the same caliber. Jw
If money were no object that's exactly what you'd have seen and more.
nice vdeo,.i only have one point of criticism......you always treat a gun as if it is loaded, why is the avenger pointed at Noah .. is an absolute no go
It’s the perspective shift from the 3d world to the 2d of video. Both muzzles were pointed in safe directions relative to where we were seated.
Sorry to cause concern.
Great job comparing orange to tomatos! Diferent caliber, trajectory, pellets. At the same time you could compere it to 22lr, they are also guns and shoot...😂
All valid points. What we set out to do was see if one airgun could keep up with the other. That’s it. The Avenger clearly isn’t as refined as the more expensive Pulsar, but can it get the job done given the conditions we had to work with? Nothing more.
We couldn’t shoot the .22lr in that environment for a variety of safety and legal reasons.
Do you believe in telling which target you are shooting at
Do you mean to ask which targets we were using for the testing...custom ones we made up. If you mean something else let me know.
Dude was visibly upset his daystate was out performed by the avenger.
It's his baby...First Love...You know how it is.
13:10 looks like its aimed right at his dome.
Perspective. If I only had the budget for a camera operator! 🤣
Why waste your time at 20 yards. Weight for a calm day and go for at least 50 yards.
You're just looking for a hunting rifle or anything about 75 yards and in the avenger is about the best you can buy for the money the day States and air arms and fx's are way overpriced in comparison.
That 75 yard mark is about right.
.22 vs .22 may have been a truer comparison.
I agree 100%, but can only use the rifles we have access to.
I dont own a pulsar but I do own a daystate renegade
My boy has a avenger
I like the uk quality but at list mine is not accurate like impact
My son keeps up with his avenger against my impact sniper
My renegade is nice but not really a gun you can modify like avenger or impact
shoot a zbroia kozak from georgia airuns accuracy is fantastic.mine at 20yrds .22 off a bench no wind 40 shots same hole.!
Nice!
Avengers leak like the Titanic !
For 3 years now , every spring , those piles of trash need to be resealed !! .177,.22,.25 , all 3 leakers. This year I had enough because, like clockwork , all 3 were empty once again! I disassembled them , and dropped them in the scrapyard where they all belong.
I HAD A SHOP DO THE WORK SO NO , IT'S NOT MY WORK!
I will never buy an Air Venturi product again! I'm out over $1,000.00 in air gun trash.
@@ChumMing2 that’s unfortunate. Did you contact Air Venturi about the issue?
Looks a lot like a hatsan flashpup qe
I can see that comparison too.
That Avenger seemingly pointed at Noah's head was REALLY DISTRACTING!!!!!
The hazard of not having a cameraman! Trust me it was not anywhere near him!
177 vs 22? Lame comparison. What a waste of time.
James,
Time is valuable, and I'm very sorry if I've wasted yours.
It sounds like the pulsar is an over priced priced piece of crap.
I wouldn’t go that far. It’s an excellent airgun. There are airguns that are just as accurate that cost significantly less.
Gift me
Sure?