1. Michael Horn is usually very positive and optimistic. It's what he does and a lot of why his videos are loved. 2. LibreOffice isn't inferior. It's different. His video is about minimizing differences for people who have a lot of training and experience with Word to make it easier for them to use. It is not implying Word is superior. 3. There is a difference between someone having experience with something and that thing being superior. Lots of people have experience with 5 speed transmissions. That doesn't mean 5 speed transmissions are superior to continuously variable transmissions. If a person puts out a video saying they're going to show you how to make a CVT act more like a 5 speed transmission, that isn't them saying 5 speed transmissions are superior. It's them saying "people might be more comfortable with a CVT if it feels more like a 5-speed transmission". 4. Michael Horn isn't strictly a Linux user. He does use linux and produces content about Linux, but I've also seen him use Windows and Mac computers. He's just a nice guy trying to help people have a more familiar experience with software that is new to them. 5. LibreOffice wasn't designed to be a MS Office clone. It is a fork of OpenOffice, which was based on Star Office, which was designed for office work originally in 1985, 15 years before the first MS Office release. It's as old as Windows. It's older than MS Word. LibreOffice was designed to be its own thing. The users are the ones who are trying to use it to replace something else. 6. I don't think this is copium. We have office suites that work more like MS Office out of the box. WPS Office and Only Office are the two most popular of that genre.
He's gone after multiple toxic Linux channels for saying that Linux is superior to Windows, saying that Linux and windows are just different. Now he says that Microsoft software is superior. I feel like he's being inconsistent, which is not a good position to criticize others from.
@craigcarter6980 If you mean I am being inconsistent. I can say that my opinion depends on the software/hardware, situation, time etc. so depending on who or what situation we are talking about I will have either the same or different opinions depend on what, who and so on we are talking about. The thing with Tech is that there is no one set way that work for everything, everyone or at everytime etc. so I tend to morph my opinions on a lot of factors and not the same factors every time as we most of the time are not talking about the same situation every time. Also I feel it a big "blind" or not so honest to just adopt a one opinion for everything or every situation as in most cases that won't work. Like we don't jail soldiers for going to war, even this if you or I did the same thing would be jailed if we did it at home :) I feel Linux is a lot of black or white, and we need to look in to the grey where the world live and work, and with that comes different opinions and shifting opinions depending on set mentioned variables or with new information. I hope that clears it out
@nempk1817 my channel is to mess and troll toxic linux fans, and debunk a lot of lies set people say lol. I been using line everyday for over 26 years, used it as my main OS for over 10 years, I still help people with linux, and expose it to new people privately :) I don't hate linux, I hate the toxic mindset some loud people have in the community, and how they are holding linux back. You fall head first in to it. I am not saying anything others don't, and other known tech people say. A lot of what I am saying, even Linus have said more than once :O
Kent, you're clout chasing here. It's not hard to get your head around if you just use your head. He's simply showing users who are switching to Linux how to make their transition more familiar to what they have probably been using for years, making it easier for them to adopt the new software. He's not saying one software or the other is more superior or inferior. You're welcome.
@@jedipadawan7023and the guy you replied fell for it gullibly as usual. 😂 People like that and ones that get annoyed just can't cope in peace when they hear facts. 😂
@@kolz4ever1980 Kent is playing to a crowd. I do not like the 'misinformation' being presented here at all but Kent has made it very clear he enjoys outrage and it drives his views up. You cannot reason with unreasonable people.
> Nobody is using a standalone office suite at home You are high off your ass. I don't know anyone who doesn't. Whether it's keeping track of points on tarot nights in excel, working from home a couple days a week or at night on reports and PowerPoints, writing as a hobby, organizing an event, budgeting, writing a résumé and cover letter to apply for a job... I could go on. Now yes, Google Docs is good enough most of the time, but a lot of people like having their files locally, or their internet is spotty, or they like working on the train, or they like working offline because there are fewer distractions... I don't know a single household that does not use an office suite on AT LEAST a monthly basis.
go to eastern europe, hundreds of thoussands rock kms pico activated office at home, bc that they got used to at work, and school. companies will not use google docs, bc they can't comprehend a company holding the file in the cloud, instead of saving it locally, and cry when the hdd dies, and that is the only copy. hack, in hungary even schools runn pirated ms office.
I corrected that later and gave plenty of examples where people use standalone office software. you clearly have not watch it all!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and I think I said "nobody and by that I mean most don't use stand alone office software" I could be wrong tho, but like I said I made I clear many time during the video what I ment by "nobody".
@@KentsTechWorld I wrote the comment before finishing the video but I did watch the whole video. I felt like my point was still valid, I think you grossly underestimate office suite usage in the average household. However, I might be overestimating. Hard to say without hard statistics to go by.
I'm not a guy with a lot of money but sometimes I have to handle an office document every once in awhile. I like that LibreOffice makes that document accessible to me despite the fact that I can't afford the high price for a Microsoft license. Open source may not have the nicest interfaces or the best features but it makes computing available to those who can't afford the fancy toys.
wait for my next video ;) maybe you should pay for it, it would mean they could make it even better. But for now big companies are paying for you, so you can use it :) but I will go deeper in to it in the next video, FOSS software is not what a lot of people think
Being positive is part of Michael Horn's brand. I quite like that he is optimistic about things on Linux rather than being (necessarily?) realistic sometimes. That said Office is one of the reasons I still use Windows sometimes.
4:14 9 minutes is not a lot. There are hour long videos on tweaking Windows 11 settings AFTER completing its installation! And your own video here is almost twice as long as that guy’s.
I saw a video on wayland finally getting fixed thanks to Valve. All I have to say is even though the "Community" loves to spout how they have the best tech because everyone benefits is absolute bs. It took a multi million dollar company to come in and fix what no one else would. Valve needs it to work to make profit from their store to linux users. So its not the community that makes linux better but the need to make profit. Huh who would have guessed.
Idk man I went from word perfect to Corel office to OpenOffice to LibreOffice it seems to do the exact same stuff I always needed, maybe that isn’t what a Fortune 500 company needs but, why should I care?
you should not. but those companies pay for you to be able to use set software, and they pay most of it even if you use a paid software, so caring about making them "happy" mean they will pay for you, or pay the most for you. So like it or not, you still depended on those Fortune 500 companies unless you are willing to start paying for every software, or pay a lot more for already paid software.
@@KentsTechWorld I think it doesn't affect my life at all if I have to do my work without some officesuite. Colleagues like to use those but writing text is so basic stuff and it doesn't require many lines of code to write table directly to some CSV. But this the reality, people with programming skills can have stuff for free. If not, they implement something that can be used for free. Someone else pays.
Photogimp is a version of the GIMP that is customized to work like Photoshop. This is great for people who only know Photoshop able to easily use GIMP.
1:00 The other half you missed is that companies DO care about the license only when they're the ones making the software. 99/100 times, they'll go with permissive/MIT licensed libraries and database solutions because they can't just "contribute" by force via copyleft licenses. It is always correct to assume that they only touch the most tame of copyleft licensed libraries with a 100m pole and a legion of lawyers to ensure the company's future is intact when they use the tech to make their products.
Imagine having a reaction to some guy who made a boring video about some office suite. Then making a video about your reaction. 🤣 This channel is hilarious. 😂
you got it wrong lol 1 people ask a lot for reaction videos. 2 I find videos that may be interesting to react to 3 I make them 4 I laugh at the crazy comments lol. So in the end, it's all based on viewer demand ;)
Apparently as of now there are 111 people in the entire world who are excited about people's opinions of other people's videos of office suites. Far more than I would have guessed. Thanks for enlightening me.
@@adventureswithpaulandsally5516 Your initial comment first made me laugh so hard for like 5 minutes, but then it slowly sent me into some depressive state and I'll come to the conclusion that I REALLY need to get a life, lol.
I agree. We need to stop comparing software. Learn to use the application well, and you'll be fine. If your origination requires certain applications, use that for work, but use whatever you want to at home. Have you learned how the app works, and does it do what you want? Then use it. Does it drive you nuts after learning how to use it? Use something else.
[7:50] The majority of the user base hates cloud storage providers. This is why this feature does not work correctly, because nobody requires it. But this tells also the story, that no big company uses LibreOffice. Otherwise, it would be implemented. You're right. Many Linux Users live in a world, which does not exist. I can tell you similar stories about PLC programming. Some Linux Users think you could automate industrial systems just with Linux. In the meantime, it has become too stupid for me to discuss my work with people from outside my field.
The thing is, for 90% of computer users Microsoft is fine, just leave them to it. For the rest of us it's all about choices, lots of them, and no one rule fits all, find what works for you and just use it, don't worry about what others are doing.
I would never even get the idea to save a document from a word processor directly to a cloud storage / service. Isn't that a waste of development resources in some way? Doesn't it make more sense to just have a local drive / client for that cloud storage and save a local file, which gets uploaded automatically? That way any application can make use of the cloud storage and I don't have to care for account settings in a dozen applications.
No. The whole idea behind cloud storage is that you up-sell services or advertising and you lock the data into their platform (because your data is there).
@@arthurpizza reddit, youtube, any other social media where the topic is about software, operating systems, gaming, you see Linux evangelists going around saying you should switch to Linux for the good
@@JohnSmithWesson That is justified if someone is whining their current system and only option that solves that problem uses Linux. Most of the options in OS market uses Linux. If current one works there should be no reason to switch or whining about it.
Yea free is the main reason, that "I", as a normy, like Foss, I like the other concepts but I use steam,discord,youtube,gmail...the list goes on lol, I just love how as a low income meat department manager supporting 3 kids with old computers with used etherium gpus have access to so much software that's free, we all have minecraft but "for the change of pase" have been playing minetest and im just amazed at what the community came up with here, on the same note I'm amazed at linux and it's usability regardless of the bugs lol, but I'm weird and desktop linux is for autistic people like me lol not my store or it's network
Most I have used any office suite is on my macbook and it was the basic shit apple gives you that actually works super well. Work Ive used notepad more than anything. Anything else I could use google docs for....
LibreOffice roots are in late 90's StarOffice. It is very old code and I don't think it improves a lot in future. I think it is more harmul to try get MS Office users to change LibreOffice. MS Office works though browser, LibreOffice don't. Only sane setting in LibreOffice is to set fileformat to standard ODF 1.3 and use as defaults so the LibreOffice will produce standard files if need to migrate them 10 years later to some other tool because LibreOffice requires complete rewrite. It is very likely that online editing is not possible to fit to over 25 year old code base. Those UI settings are intended to help migration if some organization is using Windows + MS Office and there is migration plan to go Debian/Red Hat/Suse/Ubuntu + LibreOffice. It is more easier to users that everything is not changed in overnight, it is better to do gradual changes every 6 months and full migration can take then years.
StarOffice had a super nice UI. And had integrated a little app that acted as an alternative desktop. At that time, I was replacing in registry the windows shell (explorer) with it and some param that made it full screen and exposed some kind of simplified task bar.
@@davidturcotte831 Oh, that is very old. There must been rewriting here and there but I don't think that would work nicely on webui without rewriting again, and there is likely little interest to do that now. So I don't expect that LibreOffice is getting much of feature improvements in future. It is in maintenance mode.
I used StarOffice in the 1990s and back the it was pretty close to MS Office. StarWriter was maybe even better in terms of section formatting templates, but today‘s LibreOffice is pretty much still the same as StarOffice of the 90s. It’s ok to write a letter, but have you tried their equivalent to macros/VBA, „Impress“ or the equivalent to MS Access??? It’s worlds apart. Exporting and importing also used to be awful destroying formatting. I use LibreOffice ant home and MS Office at work, because as a private person I do not have the professional and integration/exchangibility requirements as in business.
I don't think the point of this video is "how to make libreoffice better". The point of this video is "how to make libreoffice more compatible with MS Office".
I just watched another Linux fanboy/expert essentially gaslight TH-camrs who spent "only a week" with Linux, telling them "a week isn't long enough," via _The Linux Cast._ Apparently he's forgotten that "beauty is in the eye of the beholder."
Ah, whereas Kent wants everyone to spend wads of cash to be abused by Microsoft. What's wrong with a free office suite and one that comes with a database suitable for teaching? What's wrong with an Office suite you can change the UI to work they way you want? What's wrong with the functionality of MS Office with less system resource usage? What's wrong with choice? Why should we be stuck with one way of doing things and one monolopy to rule them all? I agree that Libreoffice does not have 100% the functionality of MS Office - though the word processor is generally granted as now being more powerful than MS Office, the rest needs to catch up. But only certain businesses use the full power of ANY software! Most users, even in business, use a fraction of the functionality. Libreoffice isn't a pig. It's a tool. If it does what you want, it's a winner. It's been earning me $$$ since January. 2017. I agree that BIG companies use Microsoft products from Microsoft for the infrastructure and why I have said for ages that Microsoft is so embedded in Bug Business that it is now aking to COBOL in banking - impossible to remove. But Kent will give no quarter. We mus ALL full the One True Microsoft way and pony up however much it costs, in both hardware and software, to comply and not be tainted by that nasty free (Linux) stuff. BTW, I have used Libreoffice on many an occasion to read Office data files that Office itself will not read because Microsoft will not allow office ot read it's own legacy files properly.
The only people who promote libre office are the ones who don’t work in a corporate environment and can’t even begin to comprehend why it’s not even close to a replacement of Microsoft Office.
@@albatross7If companies want to deal with Microsoft license then by all means. If I had the money, I would just hire devs to modify OpenOffice and use that instead. Libre fine but the Linux community forced libre down my throat. Yea, I cane run OpenOffice and I have but the community coded it in such a way you cant run both.
@@albatross7 The only uses the Kent focuses on is corporate. He thinks everyone should follow the corporate route and give all their money to the MicroGod. I agree that corporate requires Microsoft. The sheer number of legacy VB macros used by Corporate alone means Office is the standard for decades to come. That use case I accept. But Kent applies that to ALL use cases and insists every man, woman and child go the expensive Microsoft route no matter what.
@@jedipadawan7023 Corporate route doesn't apply for example universities, military, public healthcare, ministry of justice and many other areas. Also different businesses have different requirements. Example MS Office is used more on established businesses. Startups uses often Google suite. And when considering about cost of officesuite, MS Office can be even cheaper than Google suite so it is not that expensive. It is requirements. I've found Google Meets to be more reliable than Teams but Teams have feature that it stores chat messages in app. VB macros are garbage. Just delete those and use better tools.
No, microsoft office is not better our worse than libre office. But microsoft office is the most used, so it is very usefull to make libre office compatible with microsoft office, And yes, I agree with you, the world (and also the software world) is driven by cooperate companies.
1. Michael Horn is usually very positive and optimistic. It's what he does and a lot of why his videos are loved.
2. LibreOffice isn't inferior. It's different. His video is about minimizing differences for people who have a lot of training and experience with Word to make it easier for them to use. It is not implying Word is superior.
3. There is a difference between someone having experience with something and that thing being superior. Lots of people have experience with 5 speed transmissions. That doesn't mean 5 speed transmissions are superior to continuously variable transmissions. If a person puts out a video saying they're going to show you how to make a CVT act more like a 5 speed transmission, that isn't them saying 5 speed transmissions are superior. It's them saying "people might be more comfortable with a CVT if it feels more like a 5-speed transmission".
4. Michael Horn isn't strictly a Linux user. He does use linux and produces content about Linux, but I've also seen him use Windows and Mac computers. He's just a nice guy trying to help people have a more familiar experience with software that is new to them.
5. LibreOffice wasn't designed to be a MS Office clone. It is a fork of OpenOffice, which was based on Star Office, which was designed for office work originally in 1985, 15 years before the first MS Office release. It's as old as Windows. It's older than MS Word. LibreOffice was designed to be its own thing. The users are the ones who are trying to use it to replace something else.
6. I don't think this is copium. We have office suites that work more like MS Office out of the box. WPS Office and Only Office are the two most popular of that genre.
I clicked on this guy channel and saw that his identity is to hate on linux/*nix and youtubers. You're trying to talk to a fanboy
He's gone after multiple toxic Linux channels for saying that Linux is superior to Windows, saying that Linux and windows are just different. Now he says that Microsoft software is superior. I feel like he's being inconsistent, which is not a good position to criticize others from.
@craigcarter6980 If you mean I am being inconsistent. I can say that my opinion depends on the software/hardware, situation, time etc. so depending on who or what situation we are talking about I will have either the same or different opinions depend on what, who and so on we are talking about. The thing with Tech is that there is no one set way that work for everything, everyone or at everytime etc. so I tend to morph my opinions on a lot of factors and not the same factors every time as we most of the time are not talking about the same situation every time.
Also I feel it a big "blind" or not so honest to just adopt a one opinion for everything or every situation as in most cases that won't work.
Like we don't jail soldiers for going to war, even this if you or I did the same thing would be jailed if we did it at home :)
I feel Linux is a lot of black or white, and we need to look in to the grey where the world live and work, and with that comes different opinions and shifting opinions depending on set mentioned variables or with new information.
I hope that clears it out
@nempk1817 my channel is to mess and troll toxic linux fans, and debunk a lot of lies set people say lol. I been using line everyday for over 26 years, used it as my main OS for over 10 years, I still help people with linux, and expose it to new people privately :) I don't hate linux, I hate the toxic mindset some loud people have in the community, and how they are holding linux back.
You fall head first in to it. I am not saying anything others don't, and other known tech people say. A lot of what I am saying, even Linus have said more than once :O
Kent, you're clout chasing here. It's not hard to get your head around if you just use your head. He's simply showing users who are switching to Linux how to make their transition more familiar to what they have probably been using for years, making it easier for them to adopt the new software. He's not saying one software or the other is more superior or inferior. You're welcome.
Kent likes to annoy Linux users. This is very much the anti-Linux/FOSS channel now. Didn't used to be, but now it's even on the channel 'wallpaper.;
@@jedipadawan7023and the guy you replied fell for it gullibly as usual. 😂 People like that and ones that get annoyed just can't cope in peace when they hear facts. 😂
@@kolz4ever1980 Kent is playing to a crowd. I do not like the 'misinformation' being presented here at all but Kent has made it very clear he enjoys outrage and it drives his views up.
You cannot reason with unreasonable people.
> Nobody is using a standalone office suite at home
You are high off your ass. I don't know anyone who doesn't. Whether it's keeping track of points on tarot nights in excel, working from home a couple days a week or at night on reports and PowerPoints, writing as a hobby, organizing an event, budgeting, writing a résumé and cover letter to apply for a job... I could go on. Now yes, Google Docs is good enough most of the time, but a lot of people like having their files locally, or their internet is spotty, or they like working on the train, or they like working offline because there are fewer distractions... I don't know a single household that does not use an office suite on AT LEAST a monthly basis.
go to eastern europe, hundreds of thoussands rock kms pico activated office at home, bc that they got used to at work, and school.
companies will not use google docs, bc they can't comprehend a company holding the file in the cloud, instead of saving it locally, and cry when the hdd dies, and that is the only copy.
hack, in hungary even schools runn pirated ms office.
I corrected that later and gave plenty of examples where people use standalone office software. you clearly have not watch it all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
and I think I said "nobody and by that I mean most don't use stand alone office software" I could be wrong tho, but like I said I made I clear many time during the video what I ment by "nobody".
@@KentsTechWorld I wrote the comment before finishing the video but I did watch the whole video. I felt like my point was still valid, I think you grossly underestimate office suite usage in the average household. However, I might be overestimating. Hard to say without hard statistics to go by.
I'm not a guy with a lot of money but sometimes I have to handle an office document every once in awhile. I like that LibreOffice makes that document accessible to me despite the fact that I can't afford the high price for a Microsoft license. Open source may not have the nicest interfaces or the best features but it makes computing available to those who can't afford the fancy toys.
wait for my next video ;) maybe you should pay for it, it would mean they could make it even better.
But for now big companies are paying for you, so you can use it :) but I will go deeper in to it in the next video, FOSS software is not what a lot of people think
This Kent guy looks like a real life Mr. Potato head...
nah thats steve harvey
I do change my nose out doing videos sometimes :O it in this one if you look close ;)
Being positive is part of Michael Horn's brand. I quite like that he is optimistic about things on Linux rather than being (necessarily?) realistic sometimes. That said Office is one of the reasons I still use Windows sometimes.
4:14 9 minutes is not a lot. There are hour long videos on tweaking Windows 11 settings AFTER completing its installation! And your own video here is almost twice as long as that guy’s.
I saw a video on wayland finally getting fixed thanks to Valve. All I have to say is even though the "Community" loves to spout how they have the best tech because everyone benefits is absolute bs. It took a multi million dollar company to come in and fix what no one else would. Valve needs it to work to make profit from their store to linux users. So its not the community that makes linux better but the need to make profit. Huh who would have guessed.
Most of the greatest opensource projects were closed sourced at one time Blender is a good example.
Idk man I went from word perfect to Corel office to OpenOffice to LibreOffice it seems to do the exact same stuff I always needed, maybe that isn’t what a Fortune 500 company needs but, why should I care?
you should not. but those companies pay for you to be able to use set software, and they pay most of it even if you use a paid software, so caring about making them "happy" mean they will pay for you, or pay the most for you.
So like it or not, you still depended on those Fortune 500 companies unless you are willing to start paying for every software, or pay a lot more for already paid software.
@@KentsTechWorld
I think it doesn't affect my life at all if I have to do my work without some officesuite. Colleagues like to use those but writing text is so basic stuff and it doesn't require many lines of code to write table directly to some CSV.
But this the reality, people with programming skills can have stuff for free. If not, they implement something that can be used for free. Someone else pays.
Photogimp is a version of the GIMP that is customized to work like Photoshop.
This is great for people who only know Photoshop able to easily use GIMP.
1:00 The other half you missed is that companies DO care about the license only when they're the ones making the software. 99/100 times, they'll go with permissive/MIT licensed libraries and database solutions because they can't just "contribute" by force via copyleft licenses.
It is always correct to assume that they only touch the most tame of copyleft licensed libraries with a 100m pole and a legion of lawyers to ensure the company's future is intact when they use the tech to make their products.
Imagine having a reaction to some guy who made a boring video about some office suite. Then making a video about your reaction. 🤣 This channel is hilarious. 😂
you got it wrong lol
1 people ask a lot for reaction videos.
2 I find videos that may be interesting to react to
3 I make them
4 I laugh at the crazy comments lol.
So in the end, it's all based on viewer demand ;)
Apparently as of now there are 111 people in the entire world who are excited about people's opinions of other people's videos of office suites. Far more than I would have guessed. Thanks for enlightening me.
@@adventureswithpaulandsally5516 Your initial comment first made me laugh so hard for like 5 minutes, but then it slowly sent me into some depressive state and I'll come to the conclusion that I REALLY need to get a life, lol.
@@KentsTechWorld Just install Gentoo.
I agree. We need to stop comparing software. Learn to use the application well, and you'll be fine. If your origination requires certain applications, use that for work, but use whatever you want to at home. Have you learned how the app works, and does it do what you want? Then use it. Does it drive you nuts after learning how to use it? Use something else.
LibreOffice doesn't need to be a better MSFT Office clone. They're just trying to make a good office suite, and I think they're doing that.
i want you to make even more content flaming linux users
8:19 Tbf, a lot of times MS Office will just hate OneDrive for some odd reason, and Microsoft makes both products.
tell me about it. I deal with that a lot lol
[7:50] The majority of the user base hates cloud storage providers. This is why this feature does not work correctly, because nobody requires it. But this tells also the story, that no big company uses LibreOffice. Otherwise, it would be implemented. You're right. Many Linux Users live in a world, which does not exist. I can tell you similar stories about PLC programming. Some Linux Users think you could automate industrial systems just with Linux. In the meantime, it has become too stupid for me to discuss my work with people from outside my field.
The thing is, for 90% of computer users Microsoft is fine, just leave them to it. For the rest of us it's all about choices, lots of them, and no one rule fits all, find what works for you and just use it, don't worry about what others are doing.
10:23 lmao
Daddy Kent, after this one you need to make at least 3 Pro Linux Videos to even out your Karma again.
my karma is fine, as I speak no falsehood lol
I would never even get the idea to save a document from a word processor directly to a cloud storage / service. Isn't that a waste of development resources in some way? Doesn't it make more sense to just have a local drive / client for that cloud storage and save a local file, which gets uploaded automatically? That way any application can make use of the cloud storage and I don't have to care for account settings in a dozen applications.
No. The whole idea behind cloud storage is that you up-sell services or advertising and you lock the data into their platform (because your data is there).
Tell that to Adobe, you need to be a TH-cam guru to learn their software
Well said, all of these Linux people and FOSS advocates trying to sell you a turd under the guise of candy
No one is trying to sell you anything. If you don't like FOSS, just don't use it.
@@arthurpizza reddit, youtube, any other social media where the topic is about software, operating systems, gaming, you see Linux evangelists going around saying you should switch to Linux for the good
@@JohnSmithWesson
That is justified if someone is whining their current system and only option that solves that problem uses Linux. Most of the options in OS market uses Linux.
If current one works there should be no reason to switch or whining about it.
Yea free is the main reason, that "I", as a normy, like Foss, I like the other concepts but I use steam,discord,youtube,gmail...the list goes on lol, I just love how as a low income meat department manager supporting 3 kids with old computers with used etherium gpus have access to so much software that's free, we all have minecraft but "for the change of pase" have been playing minetest and im just amazed at what the community came up with here, on the same note I'm amazed at linux and it's usability regardless of the bugs lol, but I'm weird and desktop linux is for autistic people like me lol not my store or it's network
Most I have used any office suite is on my macbook and it was the basic shit apple gives you that actually works super well. Work Ive used notepad more than anything. Anything else I could use google docs for....
20 Years Ago I made a Open Office Loading Logo that Looked Like M$ Office 2k3.
I Thought I was Awesome LOL
As always. You are right.
LibreOffice roots are in late 90's StarOffice. It is very old code and I don't think it improves a lot in future. I think it is more harmul to try get MS Office users to change LibreOffice. MS Office works though browser, LibreOffice don't. Only sane setting in LibreOffice is to set fileformat to standard ODF 1.3 and use as defaults so the LibreOffice will produce standard files if need to migrate them 10 years later to some other tool because LibreOffice requires complete rewrite. It is very likely that online editing is not possible to fit to over 25 year old code base.
Those UI settings are intended to help migration if some organization is using Windows + MS Office and there is migration plan to go Debian/Red Hat/Suse/Ubuntu + LibreOffice. It is more easier to users that everything is not changed in overnight, it is better to do gradual changes every 6 months and full migration can take then years.
StarOffice had a super nice UI. And had integrated a little app that acted as an alternative desktop. At that time, I was replacing in registry the windows shell (explorer) with it and some param that made it full screen and exposed some kind of simplified task bar.
@@MadalinIgnisca
And Sun Microsystems bought it because it was cheaper than pay licenses.
1985, actually. It's significantly older than MS Office.
@@davidturcotte831
Oh, that is very old. There must been rewriting here and there but I don't think that would work nicely on webui without rewriting again, and there is likely little interest to do that now. So I don't expect that LibreOffice is getting much of feature improvements in future. It is in maintenance mode.
I used StarOffice in the 1990s and back the it was pretty close to MS Office. StarWriter was maybe even better in terms of section formatting templates, but today‘s LibreOffice is pretty much still the same as StarOffice of the 90s. It’s ok to write a letter, but have you tried their equivalent to macros/VBA, „Impress“ or the equivalent to MS Access??? It’s worlds apart. Exporting and importing also used to be awful destroying formatting.
I use LibreOffice ant home and MS Office at work, because as a private person I do not have the professional and integration/exchangibility requirements as in business.
I don't think the point of this video is "how to make libreoffice better". The point of this video is "how to make libreoffice more compatible with MS Office".
I'd rather use WPS office.
I just watched another Linux fanboy/expert essentially gaslight TH-camrs who spent "only a week" with Linux, telling them "a week isn't long enough," via _The Linux Cast._ Apparently he's forgotten that "beauty is in the eye of the beholder."
"Teh ballzack determuns the bettuh."
Ah, whereas Kent wants everyone to spend wads of cash to be abused by Microsoft.
What's wrong with a free office suite and one that comes with a database suitable for teaching?
What's wrong with an Office suite you can change the UI to work they way you want?
What's wrong with the functionality of MS Office with less system resource usage?
What's wrong with choice? Why should we be stuck with one way of doing things and one monolopy to rule them all?
I agree that Libreoffice does not have 100% the functionality of MS Office - though the word processor is generally granted as now being more powerful than MS Office, the rest needs to catch up. But only certain businesses use the full power of ANY software! Most users, even in business, use a fraction of the functionality.
Libreoffice isn't a pig. It's a tool. If it does what you want, it's a winner. It's been earning me $$$ since January. 2017.
I agree that BIG companies use Microsoft products from Microsoft for the infrastructure and why I have said for ages that Microsoft is so embedded in Bug Business that it is now aking to COBOL in banking - impossible to remove.
But Kent will give no quarter. We mus ALL full the One True Microsoft way and pony up however much it costs, in both hardware and software, to comply and not be tainted by that nasty free (Linux) stuff. BTW, I have used Libreoffice on many an occasion to read Office data files that Office itself will not read because Microsoft will not allow office ot read it's own legacy files properly.
The only people who promote libre office are the ones who don’t work in a corporate environment and can’t even begin to comprehend why it’s not even close to a replacement of Microsoft Office.
Office is free online. aka the one being more used than a local one. Everyone else is using google docs.
@@albatross7If companies want to deal with Microsoft license then by all means. If I had the money, I would just hire devs to modify OpenOffice and use that instead. Libre fine but the Linux community forced libre down my throat. Yea, I cane run OpenOffice and I have but the community coded it in such a way you cant run both.
@@albatross7 The only uses the Kent focuses on is corporate. He thinks everyone should follow the corporate route and give all their money to the MicroGod.
I agree that corporate requires Microsoft. The sheer number of legacy VB macros used by Corporate alone means Office is the standard for decades to come. That use case I accept.
But Kent applies that to ALL use cases and insists every man, woman and child go the expensive Microsoft route no matter what.
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Corporate route doesn't apply for example universities, military, public healthcare, ministry of justice and many other areas.
Also different businesses have different requirements. Example MS Office is used more on established businesses. Startups uses often Google suite.
And when considering about cost of officesuite, MS Office can be even cheaper than Google suite so it is not that expensive. It is requirements. I've found Google Meets to be more reliable than Teams but Teams have feature that it stores chat messages in app.
VB macros are garbage. Just delete those and use better tools.
every single linuxtuber is a grifter of some sort
No, microsoft office is not better our worse than libre office.
But microsoft office is the most used, so it is very usefull to make libre office compatible with microsoft office,
And yes, I agree with you, the world (and also the software world) is driven by cooperate companies.
Then why it just grew 23%??? Maybe people start to realize that Microsoft Office is actually better
Office 365 is better, but that makes sense as a priced piece software