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I have been on the sourdough journey for sometime now and have had a varied success with different techniques, I have always used the wet starter as the base of the recipe. In frustration, I once again started to research more different recipes and came across your dry starter technique. With nothing to loose, I converted some of my wet starter to dry starter using your measurements. Late yesterday, I took the leap into your sourdough bread recipe using your dry yeast as the base of the recipe, following your instructions to the letter. The only variable was after I placed the dough in the banneton, I placed it in a freezer bar and in the refrigerator overnight. This morning I allowed the dough to come to room temperature and preheated the oven and Dutch oven to 210 Celsius. 45 minutes later, I had the best sourdough loaf I have ever made. Thank you very much from the Land Downunder (Australia)
I have never made bread and felt it was about time, so I made some starter weeks ago and fed it everyday. It was coming out of my ears. I never had time to use it so, not wanting to throw it away, I kept several jars going! Then I watched this video, and tried this dry starter before Thanksgiving. It’s been living in the back of my refrig. hidden behind leftover turkey and stuffing. This morning, I scooped out 10g and fed it per your instructions. My starter works!!! I can’t believe it!!!! So easy! I have bread on its first rise now. Tomorrow.....fresh bread! Thank you so much!!! Game changer!!!
The kind of starter you are encouraging viewers to build is what my grandma used to use in her bread. She would bake about 30 loaves for her children's families. She used what she called cake yeast. It was like a brick of cheese, and just pinch off what was needed for her recipe. It was found in the refrigerated section of grocery stores.Can't find it much anymore except maybe health food stores. I just got done feeding my sourdough starter retrieved from the refrigerator, and kinda abandoned two weeks ago. I don't make bread much but love the process. That's the thing with sourdough starter though. So much flour is wasted to get to a usable end product, and it's everyday, everyday dump off, waste, remeasure w/ new flour, find a warm spot in the house, then twice again the next day. Whew. I think Bob's Red Mill sells Einkorn flour. Thanks for the new process as it makes more sense for us.all.
I cook for a family of six (with four teenagers!!) and even I can't keep up with the demands of a wet sourdough starter. I'm SO GRATEFUL that Shaye taught another way of doing things. It's incredible to me that the ancient ways are making a comeback. The old ways are slower, give time for getting to know your ingredients, and every step of the process has a purpose. Thank you Elliot Family for sharing your ways! Love it!
I hope this inspires all of you to get in the kitchen and get baking. If you have any questions about the Cooking Community, let me know. We would love to have you as part of our community!
How do you become a member of the cooking community? I'm on my 3rd starter in the last week or so. The first two failed. 😔 I'm hoping your method will work for me! BTW, I'm obsessed with your videos!! I live in Tacoma, WA! Our backyard garden is up and running! Thank you, both for all your tips and for sharing your home! 😘
Do you only have to re fed the starter when you use almost all of it? I know with other starters you have to feed it weekly, I really want to try this method
What is included in the Cooking Community Binder? Are the recipes mostly healthy and use items from your garden? Anything on how to start a garden? I think its time to invest in our family's health. Thanks guys!!
You and your family are so sweet. I am going to buy all your books even though I have over 900 cook books. I love your sour dough starter. I started one today. I bought an electronic scale and it was so much fun to use. I am 66 years old and I am so excited to watch your videos. I hope you will always be so down to earth and keep the videos coming. You are a star!
I've finally successfully made this starter! I am using it often now so I doubled the recipe so I have more on hand. So far, it has worked great for me. It's still a new starter so my rises aren't amazing (yet) but it is bubbling and smells like bread before and after refreshing it. I've made English muffins, bagels, and pizza crust with this starter. Tomorrow I am trying artisan bread. Thank you so much for sharing this, I love that I can store it in the fridge and it keeps in there until I'm ready to use it, I love that there isn't a whole bunch of discard. I am very pleased with this Sourdough starter method!
I’m trying it again right now and failed the first time bc it started smelling really bad at day 4. At what point did you put it in the fridge? I’m wondering if I was supposed to refrigerate.
@@alexis.christine yes mine smelled really bad the first time too! What I did was continue the last step which was : take 10 g out of it and add the same 30 g water and 60 g flour (every 6-10 hours) and keep doing this until it smells good. I think that's the "day 5" step. I also took the lid/plastic wrap off and on occasionally - while keeping an eye on it and smelling it. Sometimes it had to breathe and sometimes I need to seal it. I did that process and mines began to bubble and smell really good, like bread. Then you can put it in the fridge. I hope this helps you!
@@jesussaves8502 oh thank you so much! That was very helpful. Mine started to get really liquidy like it needed more air too. I just tossed and started fresh bc I didn’t know what to do😂 thank you so much I appreciate your help.
I use a regular starter & it's so simple. The only time you have to discard starter is when you are building it. I keep a small amount (tablespoon) in the fridge & on the day I want to mix my dough, I take the jar out of the fridge & add the starter amount for the recipe into the jar. (If you have enough for the recipe in the jar, you can just add it to the recipe without feeding it). After a few hours (about 4) when it has doubled or more, I add it into my recipe & stick the jar back on the fridge. Sourdough has been around since practically the beginning of time. I can't imagine our ancestors throwing out discard all the time lol. Thank you for sharing this dry starter method as it keeps things nice & simple!
WOW, this is real game changer for me, much love and aloha to you and your family. I learned to make sourdough when I was 10 and have made it ever since, am 59 years old now and no well that it can be a lot of work. This video is timely, we are staying in side thru these times. You are inspiring young lady, you give me hope in the next generation, your relaxed excellent articulation and relaxed poise is so refreshing. Wonderful channel
Please do another sourdough video. Maybe answering the unknown. What do you do with the initial starter that you take 10g from? Does the dough being hard as a rock or runny as milk have a relation to the temp or humidity of the house? Does freshly ground flour change how much water you’ll need? Is this a real starter or just for TH-cam attention?
How do you ensure you don't run out of starter? Do you feed it on occasion? I watched the video twice but maybe I missed because this is all new to me! :)
Shea , love your videos so much , watching them is like taking a vacation , I have been working with einkorn flour for a year now , and still don't always get it right.Love the flavor of the flour , but dont always get a good rise on the bread .I wonder if I'm getting a good understanding of refreshing the levein.Anyway thank you so much for all your videos , and sharing your life with us.Ive always love the homestead life.I love the simplicity of it .Its what the Lord intended.Thanks and God Bless! I'm Helen , Frank's wife , we share the phone.ha!
Is it possible to do a follow up video. A step by step process to completed bread??? Please???? Thank you for a great video!! I'm on day 4 of the traditional starter🤤 I'm not having fun. Lol too much babysitting/childcare. Kids are easier.😂
@@theelliotthomestead Yes, please do another video from the beginning to a baked loaf. I've failed miserably every time. This hopefully will be the answer! Many thanks
Yes!! Finally a easy starter. I am so overwhelmed when I see people with the "normal" sourdough starter.. so this one seems to be the best option!! Thank you so much! I already started.. let's see how it'll turn out🍀
I actually keep a traditional starter but it's just as low maintenance as this. I don't know if it's because I feed it with fresh ground wheat flour or what but I just keep it in the fridge and when I want to make some thing I pull it our 24 hrs before, let it get warm, use it as usual, feed and put it back in the fridge.
I have a wet starter that when I don’t use I put in the fridge and discard to make tortillas, pancakes etc to refresh. I bake bread 2-3 times a week plus other sour dough recipes. It’s really not that complicated. But this was very interesting to watch and I’ve never seen this method!
I'm following this with my young kids. We're on day 4 and they're so excited. I'm enjoying the idea of gifting them some when they're grown. Family heirloom. They call it their pet since it lives up in their closet right now. It's the warmest part of the house. Thank you so much! This recipe is easy to follow. I have no experience, and I'm excited to finally give it a go.
Great! I started my first starter just this morning here in Paris. I’d been putting it off because of the hassle, but I’m relieved to see there’s an easier option once it gets going! I’m changing direction immediately!
Apologies if this has been answered before. What do you do with the original Day 5 starter? I assume you can use that for baking bread, but is there any discard from that initial process? It seems a small price to pay to set up a very practical solution to keeping something "dry" and easy to maintain, but one thing I've always had a problem with is the discard created in the sourdough process. Any insight would be gratefully received. Thanks very much and thanks for sharing
Hi, probably too late to answer but yes, the discard can be used to make cookies, cake etc. just replace some of the flour from whatever recipe you're making with the discard. Bumble bee apothecary gives recipes for sourdough discard. I love Shaye's videos and time and care she's taken though in sharing many of her recipes for free much appreciated. 😊
This is similar to what we do traditionally in Northern Slovenia. So let’s say you get your spoonfull of sourdough starter from a friend (or from a mother in law as I did), you feed it like Shaye did, make the dough and take a piece of that dough and that is your starter for the next time. I keep it as it is but my mother in law saturates it with flour so it’s really dry, and then she keeps it in the fridge for two weeks and only feeds it a day before baking her rye bread. I bake twice a week or more and it works really well, too. I use splet flour because that’s what we grow on our farm, and also wheat, but I would live me some einkorn, too. I think some people make a lot of drama around sourdough, but it’s really quite forgiving when you get the gist of it. @shaye do you have recipes for pizza crust and cinnamon rolls? Because the ones I found were way too dramatic bit yours probably aren’t which would be great😀
Question for u do u really have to have a grams digital scale?? I don’t have one just a regular one n not sure if I want to invest in another scale. I just started the sourdough starter n only used teaspoons n tablespoons for measuring.
Thank you so much for this. You explained it the best way. Like you I started one years ago and it was just too demanding it got too big I got frustrated and tossed it. I’ve been using Einkorn now and finally started the levain. I love how small it is and less wasteful. I’m so glad you also mentioned that it’s supposed to be dry cos yesterday I was thinking why is it drier than the first one I did years ago, no one else explained that. You have me feeling more confident. I’m on day six today so I’m anxious to see later how it’s looking.
Today is day 5 and I'm going to refresh my starter. I'm super excited about this. I have no luck with sour dough starters and I'm so hopeful with this one. I'll let you know how it goes.
Well, I heard of dried sourdough starter before but I thought that you had to restart it back up and it took several days to a couple of weeks. I’m so glad I found you on TH-cam. I’m very interested in trying your method.
This sounds great! I hate the waste of the wet sour dough starter, and even though there are so many recipes out there for what to do with the ‘waste’ starter I dont always want to make pancakes or muffins everyday! Thanks Shaye, I have to try this. 🍞🥖
Watching this as I’m eating some sourdough bread and butter that I made yesterday! I’m so excited to try this method out! I’ve only been feeding my starter for a few weeks (following Tartine bread’s recipe) and it’s eating up quite a bit of my flour, so this lower maintenance recipe sounds perfect 😊 thanks for sharing!! Your channel is always an inspiration
Question……I’m on day 5 of this. Just refreshed & placed in a glass container with a lid. What do I do with what was left….that I pulled 10g from? Guess that’s the ‘discard’. Has it been fed enough to bake with?
Thank you so so so much for this. I watched when it first come out, converted my starter, have now made a delicious loaf of sourdough with your recipe and just made sourdough biscuits. This is amazing!!! I’ve shared this video link with no less than 20 people at this point. I appreciate all that you do!
Great video! I love how little maintenance this starter takes. Now my brown puck just hangs out in the fridge waiting patiently. The other day I took 30 g of the starter, built a leaven per your suggestion and it worked perfectly. No feeding or discarding. Thanks for the tip!
I just tried a traditional starter, but I didn't feed it for two days and it got a thick moldy layer on top, so I tossed it. This will be my next attempt, for sure. Thanks Shaye!! P. S. I LOVE THE PODCAST
I love your channel and family!!! Sooooo cute and I just joined your community group, which I am so excited about!!! I love cooking and someday I will have a homestead of my own, but for now I live on the third floor in an apt. in Augusta, Maine. I love Maine, but I need space for my kids to run and to grow a garden. Thank you for all you do, you are a huge inspiration to me!!!
I've been on a 2× a day feeding schedule for my sourdough starter and this video showed up in my feed. I am turning my starter into a stiff starter asap!
Wow! Thank you! I’ve been eating to do a starter but as a mama of 8 I just didn’t know if I could find the time. The dry starter I can definitely manage😁
I started my own starter so many times over the years and got really fed up with it and while I had the ability to maintain it everybody and their brother loved my bread! I just can not maintain a starter in a crock any more. I am handicapped and it is hard for me to stand some days, so this is a better method, however, I do wish you would put in cc the recipe so that I will be able to write it down for my own use. After checking to see what it would take to be part of the community I will have to say because of my finances I will have to forego the option of enjoying your recipes. I live in the southeastern part of u.s.a. but was born and raised in the northeastern part of Oregon. Loved farm life when I was able and I will tell everyone that when you live on a farm that sustains itself there is no better life but it is hard work!
Notes to self: recipe and video amounts have a discrepancy. When pulling out the starter to prepare to make bread: 30g dry starter 120g water 130g flour Mix well and let sit covered for 2-3 hrs until bubbly and fragrant. Use in recipe as instructed as you would use a traditional starter. To refresh dry starter: 10g starter 30g water 60g flour Keep in fridge.
Not clear- up to day 5 or 6, you kept adding to the mass of dough. You only took 10g of that initial mass. What did you do with the rest? Tossed it? Why? Also, yo don’t mention how often or if you refresh the entire “dry” starter sitting in the fridge. Can you leave it there forever without refreshing it? What if you don’t bake for 6 months or a year?
On day 5 do you throw away the rest of the starter (ie the part that is left after you take the 10 grams), or can we just use it as is to make sourdough bread?
No, do not throw it out. Take 10 g, add 130 grams of water and 120 g of flour. This makes exactly one cup of sourdough starter. (You can get about five to six of these mixes out of the leftovers.) Cover tightly with plastic wrap and you should see bubbles within a few hours, I usually let mine sit out on the counter for about 8 hours or so. At this point you can make the bread that she has down below or you can use it to make pancakes or pretty much any other pastry or you can simply put them in your fridge to use another day. Hope this was a little helpful!
So, let me get this straight, day 5 when you refresh the 10 grams, is that a new container of dry starter after sitting out? Keeping the previous container to refresh as needed or is the day 5 refresher to bake the bread with after sitting to bubble up? Thanks in advance. All this measuring is so far different from the eyeball/hand measuring great grandma did for hers. I just did my day 3 refresh. It already smelled great with bubbles prior to the addition.
@@za7040 this is very helpful! Would you make a bunch of these from the extra starter or one big batch? I am on day 5 and don't want to throw away all that excess! But I'm new to starters and sourdough so any help would be very appreciated! Thank you!
While it is really nice to have things consistent, a little variation in bread doesn't hurt. If the sour dough is too sour, try using a tiny bit and once it has risen add more if it is not sour enough. If it isn't bubbling enough, try putting the container on top of a cup, bowl, etc of warm (not too hot) water and see if it will activate more. My grandmother baked with sour dough for over 70 years and she would just fix what wasn't working and work with what she had...she also was just fine with happy accidents and surprises...you never know you might just like super sour dough or slightly wetter or dryer dough. There are also ways to make the crust crunchier or softer, maybe you like it one way or the other.
I had a starter for years...moved...started a new job...and it went, who knows where...lol. I need to start again. Good to learn about Einkorn being less of a problem for those of us with a slight intolerance. Thank you! BTW....would love to get 10 grams!
@@poseidum157 Different recipe entirely. Luckily, you can find all kinds of sourdough recipes on the internet. I would recommend Jovial's Einkorn Cookbook if you're brand new to sourdough. It has lots of recipes from cinnamon rolls to breads to cakes.
Okay, Day 5: Did refresh now waiting to see if I get the bubbles. Day 4 before feeding it I saw bubbles in my starter and good smell. Same with Day 5 so now just waiting to see if the bubbles are there after the refreshing. Thank you so much. I'd been putting off starting the wet method, but this one is so easy. Stay safe and healthy.
Thank you! I have 1600 black plaque sourdough yeast but haven’t made a starter because of the high maintenance of the wet one. I’ll get a scale and start this dry one. Also, love the einkorn flour tip. We love bread but I have a gluten allergy and high weight gain with regular flour. Definitely investing in einkorn now.
I have a traditional sourdough starter. Can transform it to a dry one? I usually bake bread once a week. How often will I have to refresh this dry one? You answered earlier when there is 10-20 grams left, but really, referesh once a month or less? Sounds incredible.
Great to learn new ways and I started to night 😊 what about that ‘left over starter’ - the 3x60 where I only need 10 g - can I use the first leftover for something? Or do I misunderstand 😊
I hardly ever comment on TH-cam, but I just had to say thank you. Making and using this starter has been a lovely experience for our family. Thank you for sharing!
Typed out instructions: Dry starter To a bowl add 45 g (3 TBS) water and 60 g of flour Pick up starter in hands and toss it Put back in bowl, cover with plastic wrap. This is day 1. Room temp for 48 hrs. Day 3 add 30 g = 2 tbs water 60 g = 4 tbs flour Cover with plastic wrap Day 4 Same as day 3 Day 5 1st refreshing of starter Take out 10 grams (2/3 tbs) (2.3471 tps) put in bowl. To this add 30 grams water 60 grams flour. Mix. Put into small rectangular Tupperware or small glass mason jar. Should have bubbles after 6-10 hrs of sitting at room temp and smell like good bread. If you don’t have this yet, then on day 6 repeat day 5 steps. Keep in fridge. To make bread, a few hours before grab a chunk and refresh it: Take out 30 grams, put lid back on. Back in fridge Always have at least 10 grams left in container!
I weighed out my flour (converting grams to ounces) and then converted to measuring cups it was more like 60g = 10Tablespoons of my flour. I did the comparison because I wasn't getting a dough ball with the measurements you posted. :)
Sophie Mbongo I normally don’t comment on TH-cam. However, when I read through most of the Q & A, I came across yours. That was very kind of you to take time typing out the instruction. Not many people will take that much care to help others. I’m touched by your kindness.
I just found your video and I'm very interested in this method. But I'm wondering what do you do with all of that dough mixture after you've taken the first 10 G out to to refresh? I guess I'm missing that step cuz I'm not understanding completely thank you love your video
1: I like this. This is a cool way to do starter. 2: I make about a loaf a week and so I just keep mine in the fridge. Pull it out and feed it and warm it to room temperature the morning that I want to use it, then use it, feed it again, and back in the fridge. 3: What I USED to do was maintain a starter at room temperature every day and I'd take the discard, and lay it out on a cookie sheet for the day to dry. Then at night I'd throw it in a blender and put the powder in a jar in the freezer. You can then use this (I saved up a big jar of discard and then stopped maintaining a live starter for months using the powder), the night before: Take X amount (X = tablespoon or two) of starter and feed with 2X flour and 2x water. Feed again in the morning. When it's ready, use it. Any excess can be dried, pulverized, and added back to the jar. I did this until I figured out the fridge worked perfectly for my rate of baking. - Finally, I know most bakers love scales, and there's absolutely nothing wrong with using scales, but I would argue against using a scale, at least for a little while. Might be best to do this after you've gotten comfortable making sourdough. I don't use a scale. I don't measure anything. My bread isn't entirely consistent, but that's okay with me. I'm not running a bakery. I like the variation, for me. I believe this gives you a really good feel for what matters and what doesn't, in making a good loaf of bread. And at the end of the day, I can reliably make good bread, which is really what matters to me. Sometimes it's spectacular, and sometimes it's not as good as I'd like, but it's never bad. Once I accidentally left one fermenting overnight in my hot garage (an experiment I forgot about). The next morning it was totally collapsed, but I cooked it up anyway. Oh my, that was a SOUR loaf. It wasn't light and fluffy, and it was too sour for most things, but with some butter, it was really tasty. But so-so or great, I always learn something from the experience.
Thank you for posting this! There was one question in the Starter phase that I am confused about. “What do you do with the leftover starter After you take 10 grams out? I believe it’s on day 5. Do you just toss it?” Seems a bit wasteful.
There is one guy who’s instructions literally say “Throw it out. Just trust me.” I’m guessing that because of how much excess you can accumulate. Or maybe start sharing it with everyone?
@@Weedemandreap I was asking about the part she wasn't using. From when she first starts, she takes out 10 grams and works with it. What does she do with what was left in the bowl from the 10 grams she took to make the official dry starter?
So when you take your 30 grams.out of your starter to make bread.. do you add more to your starter? How much do you add back in to your starter so you keep it from getting low.. I'm confused
Thank you for sharing this ... I had the traditional sourdough starter and like you, it because so much work and very hard to keep up with. I can't wait to try your method of a dry sourdough starter and bake some great Einkorn bread. I have berries to grind my own flour, once I use up the Einkorn flour i purchased. All the best to you. I enjoy your videos ...
That becomes "discard" or could be used in another recipe (though the starter won't be very mature at this point). Keep in mind, that’s only for the last two days of establishing the starter. Once it is “up and running” you won’t need to discard. It always feels wasteful but Shaye's "dry" starter method is a lot less wasteful than other sourdough recipes. Thanks Shaye!!!
@@DonnaBorooah I'm really confused! If you refresh with only 10 grams and add 30 grams of flour, that's so little. How to you end up with a container full like she has?
@theelliothomestead This is what I'm wondering as well. Once it's established and in the fridge do I discard EVERY time I refresh the 10 grams? I feel like it would never become more than 10gm + 30gm water + 60gm flour....I tried the one from farmhouse on boone and after it's established she doesn't discard anymore. She just feeds it and then takes out what she needs to bake.
Aisha MacInnis the great part this type of starter is that there isn’t really any discard once established (if using an refreshing with enough frequency). The established starter that stays in the fridge won’t need refreshing until there is only 10g left. So you take what you need for your recipe with that whole batch of starter, a little at a time. When there is only a small amount (10g) left in the container then you feed it.
Hey Shaye! Thanks for this tutorial, I just started a one, I am so done with my wet starter 🙄. Can you tell me how often you need to feed the starter when its kept in the fridge or how often to refresh if you keep it in the fridge? I bake breads about 2-4 times a week.
Thank you for this! I finally started mine and I’m on day 3. (I used einkorn flour and filtered water…although we do have a water softener system, so I’m not sure if that is ideal.) My day 3 starter has turned gray with white spots, it also has bubbles, and smells a little “barnyard-esque” - this is before the day 3 feeding. I’m guessing I should just start over, because from what I understand, it’s meant to smell like good bread the whole time and there was no mention of discoloration. If anybody out there has any knowledge on this I would appreciate if you shared!
Around the day 3/4 Mark is when most people get concerned and throw away their starter when they shouldn't. Around the day three Mark the good lacto bacteria start taking over the bad bacteria which befin to die off. It can create a lot of bubbles for a day and then the next day when the same action doesn't happen people toss or stray from the course.
@@ashkap13 i lost my patience so ai purchased a Kensington dry starter. I'll keep my own going till it gets reestablished but for 10 bucks i wish i had just purchased a mature starter frim the start 😋
I started out with traditional starter and I did just that - I used 10 grams traditional starter then mixed 30g water and 60g flour. I did this for maybe 2 days until I saw really nice bubbles and it smelled like starter, then stored it in the fridge. Today is the day I'm attempting to make bread with it, so I'll have to let you know how it goes!
@@SandyMergui not as well as I had hoped! I think I left it alone for too long in the fridge and it got SUPER dried out... but I'll try again some time. The bread turned out to be OK, just much more dense than my traditional starter loaf. So, I guess this calls for more practice on my end!
Shaye, my kitchen is very warm because of the stove 🎉and the starter turned way too liquidy. Should I start again!? And can it be stored in the fridge from the off, in this case? Thank you. Love your videos! Thank you for the advice!
Thank you for this! I'm excited about this different option than the traditional wet starter which was too difficult for me to keep up with. Question - after the first 48 hours of it being covered, I noticed a lot of bubbles and quite a strong (not bad) smell. I went ahead with day 3's instructions, but might it be ready sooner than day 5?
@@wellfamily3925 I'm blessed with a mill, so I grind mine. I thought I would try this recipe with rye grain flour. In theory, it's easy to make a starter with it.
I'm on day 3 and it already smells so good. I hope this works for me because years ago I had the traditional sourdough starter and like you it got overwhelming so I threw it out too. I'm hoping this will bring back my beloved sourdough bread.
My grandmother used this type of sourdough and I was looking high and low to find how to make and use it! So if I understand it correctly I follow the instructions to make my starter and then I keep it in the fridge. Every time I want to bake I use 10 gr to make my levain. When I have 10-20 gr left I refresh my starter. Is that how it works? Thank you!
Question: You say take all the starter then add to it for the feedings, Jovial foods says to take 10g for the bright starter (under the surface) then add 30g water and 60g flour. Why do you keep all if Jovial says you should discard it? Do you find it works better for you this way? Thanks :)
Yes this is my exact question as well! I just tried to do a starter when I first discovered jovials instructional TH-cam video and when it failed I end up finding this one that is very similar with a couple different steps as you mentioned so I'm wondering does this make a difference especially since my failed I'm wanting to try this one instead?
I didn't understand one thing. When there is only 10 grams left of the starter in the fridge, do I need to bring it out and add 30 g water 60 g flour for another 5-6 days? Sorry I've never done sourdough.
Once you've gone through the week long process and have a mature starter it should only take a few hours to refresh assuming the temperature is around 75-80 degrees. So 10g of mature, healthy starter becomes 100g of mature starter in 2-3 hours. Temperature has a big impact on speed, btw. Starter will mature twice as fast at 80 degrees as it will at 70 degrees, and will stop fermenting completely at 40 degrees.
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I have been on the sourdough journey for sometime now and have had a varied success with different techniques, I have always used the wet starter as the base of the recipe. In frustration, I once again started to research more different recipes and came across your dry starter technique. With nothing to loose, I converted some of my wet starter to dry starter using your measurements. Late yesterday, I took the leap into your sourdough bread recipe using your dry yeast as the base of the recipe, following your instructions to the letter. The only variable was after I placed the dough in the banneton, I placed it in a freezer bar and in the refrigerator overnight. This morning I allowed the dough to come to room temperature and preheated the oven and Dutch oven to 210 Celsius. 45 minutes later, I had the best sourdough loaf I have ever made. Thank you very much from the Land Downunder (Australia)
I’ve been making sourdough bread for years but this dry sourdough starter was a total game changer for me.
I have never made bread and felt it was about time, so I made some starter weeks ago and fed it everyday. It was coming out of my ears. I never had time to use it so, not wanting to throw it away, I kept several jars going! Then I watched this video, and tried this dry starter before Thanksgiving. It’s been living in the back of my refrig. hidden behind leftover turkey and stuffing. This morning, I scooped out 10g and fed it per your instructions. My starter works!!! I can’t believe it!!!! So easy! I have bread on its first rise now. Tomorrow.....fresh bread! Thank you so much!!! Game changer!!!
The kind of starter you are encouraging viewers to build is what my grandma used to use in her bread. She would bake about 30 loaves for her children's families. She used what she called cake yeast. It was like a brick of cheese, and just pinch off what was needed for her recipe. It was found in the refrigerated section of grocery stores.Can't find it much anymore except maybe health food stores. I just got done feeding my sourdough starter retrieved from the refrigerator, and kinda abandoned two weeks ago. I don't make bread much but love the process. That's the thing with sourdough starter though. So much flour is wasted to get to a usable end product, and it's everyday, everyday dump off, waste, remeasure w/ new flour, find a warm spot in the house, then twice again the next day. Whew. I think Bob's Red Mill sells Einkorn flour. Thanks for the new process as it makes more sense for us.all.
I cook for a family of six (with four teenagers!!) and even I can't keep up with the demands of a wet sourdough starter. I'm SO GRATEFUL that Shaye taught another way of doing things. It's incredible to me that the ancient ways are making a comeback. The old ways are slower, give time for getting to know your ingredients, and every step of the process has a purpose. Thank you Elliot Family for sharing your ways! Love it!
I hope this inspires all of you to get in the kitchen and get baking. If you have any questions about the Cooking Community, let me know. We would love to have you as part of our community!
@Mar~Bear she explains in the video. Weight is a much more accurate way of measuring to get consistent results.😘
How do you become a member of the cooking community?
I'm on my 3rd starter in the last week or so. The first two failed. 😔
I'm hoping your method will work for me!
BTW, I'm obsessed with your videos!! I live in Tacoma, WA! Our backyard garden is up and running!
Thank you, both for all your tips and for sharing your home! 😘
@@shannonwalker1771 i finally got my starter to work. 5th time!
Do you only have to re fed the starter when you use almost all of it? I know with other starters you have to feed it weekly, I really want to try this method
What is included in the Cooking Community Binder? Are the recipes mostly healthy and use items from your garden? Anything on how to start a garden? I think its time to invest in our family's health. Thanks guys!!
You and your family are so sweet. I am going to buy all your books even though I have over 900 cook books. I love your sour dough starter. I started one today. I bought an electronic scale and it was so much fun to use. I am 66 years old and I am so excited to watch your videos. I hope you will always be so down to earth and keep the videos coming. You are a star!
I've finally successfully made this starter! I am using it often now so I doubled the recipe so I have more on hand. So far, it has worked great for me. It's still a new starter so my rises aren't amazing (yet) but it is bubbling and smells like bread before and after refreshing it. I've made English muffins, bagels, and pizza crust with this starter. Tomorrow I am trying artisan bread. Thank you so much for sharing this, I love that I can store it in the fridge and it keeps in there until I'm ready to use it, I love that there isn't a whole bunch of discard. I am very pleased with this Sourdough starter method!
I’m trying it again right now and failed the first time bc it started smelling really bad at day 4. At what point did you put it in the fridge? I’m wondering if I was supposed to refrigerate.
@@alexis.christine yes mine smelled really bad the first time too! What I did was continue the last step which was : take 10 g out of it and add the same 30 g water and 60 g flour (every 6-10 hours) and keep doing this until it smells good. I think that's the "day 5" step. I also took the lid/plastic wrap off and on occasionally - while keeping an eye on it and smelling it. Sometimes it had to breathe and sometimes I need to seal it. I did that process and mines began to bubble and smell really good, like bread. Then you can put it in the fridge. I hope this helps you!
@@jesussaves8502 oh thank you so much! That was very helpful. Mine started to get really liquidy like it needed more air too. I just tossed and started fresh bc I didn’t know what to do😂 thank you so much I appreciate your help.
@@alexis.christine You are welcome :)
@@alexis.christine I'm no expert, but from what I've been reading, that liquid is called hooch, and it should be mixed back in to the starter.
This is my first introduction to a dry starter, which sounds SO MUCH MORE APPEALING than the previous method we’ve tried. Thank you, Elliotts!
I use a regular starter & it's so simple. The only time you have to discard starter is when you are building it. I keep a small amount (tablespoon) in the fridge & on the day I want to mix my dough, I take the jar out of the fridge & add the starter amount for the recipe into the jar. (If you have enough for the recipe in the jar, you can just add it to the recipe without feeding it). After a few hours (about 4) when it has doubled or more, I add it into my recipe & stick the jar back on the fridge. Sourdough has been around since practically the beginning of time. I can't imagine our ancestors throwing out discard all the time lol. Thank you for sharing this dry starter method as it keeps things nice & simple!
WOW, this is real game changer for me, much love and aloha to you and your family. I learned to make sourdough when I was 10 and have made it ever since, am 59 years old now and no well that it can be a lot of work. This video is timely, we are staying in side thru these times. You are inspiring young lady, you give me hope in the next generation, your relaxed excellent articulation and relaxed poise is so refreshing. Wonderful channel
Please do another sourdough video. Maybe answering the unknown. What do you do with the initial starter that you take 10g from? Does the dough being hard as a rock or runny as milk have a relation to the temp or humidity of the house? Does freshly ground flour change how much water you’ll need? Is this a real starter or just for TH-cam attention?
How do you ensure you don't run out of starter? Do you feed it on occasion? I watched the video twice but maybe I missed because this is all new to me! :)
Shea , love your videos so much , watching them is like taking a vacation , I have been working with einkorn flour for a year now , and still don't always get it right.Love the flavor of the flour , but dont always get a good rise on the bread .I wonder if I'm getting a good understanding of refreshing the levein.Anyway thank you so much for all your videos , and sharing your life with us.Ive always love the homestead life.I love the simplicity of it .Its what the Lord intended.Thanks and God Bless! I'm Helen , Frank's wife , we share the phone.ha!
Is it possible to do a follow up video. A step by step process to completed bread??? Please????
Thank you for a great video!! I'm on day 4 of the traditional starter🤤 I'm not having fun. Lol too much babysitting/childcare. Kids are easier.😂
It's on my list!
@@theelliotthomestead
Thank you!
I'm on day 7 of a traditional starter and I feel exactly the same - this video from Shaye couldn't have come at a better time !
@@theelliotthomestead Yes, please do another video from the beginning to a baked loaf. I've failed miserably every time. This hopefully will be the answer! Many thanks
Yes this is where I am. I need help from here
Nice formula! Thank you for sharing. FYI, try not to mix while the bowl is on the scale. Your scale with last longer and be accurate.
very sound advice!
Yes!! Finally a easy starter. I am so overwhelmed when I see people with the "normal" sourdough starter.. so this one seems to be the best option!! Thank you so much! I already started.. let's see how it'll turn out🍀
I actually keep a traditional starter but it's just as low maintenance as this. I don't know if it's because I feed it with fresh ground wheat flour or what but I just keep it in the fridge and when I want to make some thing I pull it our 24 hrs before, let it get warm, use it as usual, feed and put it back in the fridge.
I have a wet starter that when I don’t use I put in the fridge and discard to make tortillas, pancakes etc to refresh. I bake bread 2-3 times a week plus other sour dough recipes. It’s really not that complicated. But this was very interesting to watch and I’ve never seen this method!
I'm following this with my young kids. We're on day 4 and they're so excited. I'm enjoying the idea of gifting them some when they're grown. Family heirloom. They call it their pet since it lives up in their closet right now. It's the warmest part of the house. Thank you so much! This recipe is easy to follow. I have no experience, and I'm excited to finally give it a go.
Great! I started my first starter just this morning here in Paris. I’d been putting it off because of the hassle, but I’m relieved to see there’s an easier option once it gets going! I’m changing direction immediately!
Velvet & Toads Do! It’s much easier.
Apologies if this has been answered before. What do you do with the original Day 5 starter? I assume you can use that for baking bread, but is there any discard from that initial process? It seems a small price to pay to set up a very practical solution to keeping something "dry" and easy to maintain, but one thing I've always had a problem with is the discard created in the sourdough process. Any insight would be gratefully received. Thanks very much and thanks for sharing
Did you find out?
I believe this is the only discard in her process. Not ready to make bread either
So the leftover after you take out the 10g from the day 5 starter gets tossed ? Im confused
Seems like a waste.. Einkorn flour is "very" expensive.
Hi, probably too late to answer but yes, the discard can be used to make cookies, cake etc. just replace some of the flour from whatever recipe you're making with the discard. Bumble bee apothecary gives recipes for sourdough discard. I love Shaye's videos and time and care she's taken though in sharing many of her recipes for free much appreciated. 😊
This is similar to what we do traditionally in Northern Slovenia. So let’s say you get your spoonfull of sourdough starter from a friend (or from a mother in law as I did), you feed it like Shaye did, make the dough and take a piece of that dough and that is your starter for the next time. I keep it as it is but my mother in law saturates it with flour so it’s really dry, and then she keeps it in the fridge for two weeks and only feeds it a day before baking her rye bread. I bake twice a week or more and it works really well, too. I use splet flour because that’s what we grow on our farm, and also wheat, but I would live me some einkorn, too. I think some people make a lot of drama around sourdough, but it’s really quite forgiving when you get the gist of it. @shaye do you have recipes for pizza crust and cinnamon rolls? Because the ones I found were way too dramatic bit yours probably aren’t which would be great😀
Or the scraping method is similar and even easier.
Riki Cake Creations what is the scraping method?
Question for u do u really have to have a grams digital scale?? I don’t have one just a regular one n not sure if I want to invest in another scale. I just started the sourdough starter n only used teaspoons n tablespoons for measuring.
I was gifted a traditional starter. Do I just take 10grams of it and follow her method to make it dry?
Sounds like this lady‘s method: th-cam.com/video/POD2gRL799Q/w-d-xo.html
I'm amazed that you could roll it in your hands. It was so sticky I couldn't do that! I just lumped it in my bowl and wrapped it in plastic.
Mine was like that too. I put some flour on my hands.
I've tried sourdough starters and have never ever had any luck. Definitely going to try this thank you. And the bandana looks beautiful on you♥️
Karen D this will make it so much easier for you! And thanks!
Thank you so much for this. You explained it the best way. Like you I started one years ago and it was just too demanding it got too big I got frustrated and tossed it. I’ve been using Einkorn now and finally started the levain. I love how small it is and less wasteful. I’m so glad you also mentioned that it’s supposed to be dry cos yesterday I was thinking why is it drier than the first one I did years ago, no one else explained that. You have me feeling more confident. I’m on day six today so I’m anxious to see later how it’s looking.
Today is day 5 and I'm going to refresh my starter. I'm super excited about this. I have no luck with sour dough starters and I'm so hopeful with this one. I'll let you know how it goes.
See you tube the sourdough journey, everything you can imagine about sourdough.
Well, I heard of dried sourdough starter before but I thought that you had to restart it back up and it took several days to a couple of weeks. I’m so glad I found you on TH-cam. I’m very interested in trying your method.
This sounds great! I hate the waste of the wet sour dough starter, and even though there are so many recipes out there for what to do with the ‘waste’ starter I dont always want to make pancakes or muffins everyday! Thanks Shaye, I have to try this. 🍞🥖
You had me at "magic". My kind of Mama!!! That's what I'm going to tell my babies!!
Watching this as I’m eating some sourdough bread and butter that I made yesterday! I’m so excited to try this method out! I’ve only been feeding my starter for a few weeks (following Tartine bread’s recipe) and it’s eating up quite a bit of my flour, so this lower maintenance recipe sounds perfect 😊 thanks for sharing!! Your channel is always an inspiration
Is your starter still alive?
Question……I’m on day 5 of this. Just refreshed & placed in a glass container with a lid. What do I do with what was left….that I pulled 10g from? Guess that’s the ‘discard’. Has it been fed enough to bake with?
It's like you read my mind, I've been looking for a good sourdough starter!!
Milcah H This is it!
Thank you so so so much for this. I watched when it first come out, converted my starter, have now made a delicious loaf of sourdough with your recipe and just made sourdough biscuits. This is amazing!!! I’ve shared this video link with no less than 20 people at this point. I appreciate all that you do!
Kaly Teaff any tips? I’ve tried 3 times using a scale and it either smells rotten or it forma a layer of crust on top 😩
I have some traditional starter from a friend. Can you explain how I might convert it to dry?
Great video! I love how little maintenance this starter takes. Now my brown puck just hangs out in the fridge waiting patiently. The other day I took 30 g of the starter, built a leaven per your suggestion and it worked perfectly. No feeding or discarding. Thanks for the tip!
I just tried a traditional starter, but I didn't feed it for two days and it got a thick moldy layer on top, so I tossed it. This will be my next attempt, for sure. Thanks Shaye!!
P. S. I LOVE THE PODCAST
This is exactly what I needed to see. Thank you so much for the post. I am anxious to get back to my Einkorn bread baking. ❤ from Mexico City.
I love your channel and family!!! Sooooo cute and I just joined your community group, which I am so excited about!!! I love cooking and someday I will have a homestead of my own, but for now I live on the third floor in an apt. in Augusta, Maine. I love Maine, but I need space for my kids to run and to grow a garden. Thank you for all you do, you are a huge inspiration to me!!!
Thank you Molly! So excited to have you in our community!
Started this dry starter, was just waiting for einkorn flour to arrive. Thank you🎉
I've been on a 2× a day feeding schedule for my sourdough starter and this video showed up in my feed. I am turning my starter into a stiff starter asap!
Did u try it? I've given up on the wet too.
"I like to think of it as. . . Magic" Ha ha ha You are my kind of people :) Thank you Paul in Scotland
I've kept the wet sourdough starter before and I hated having to throw away so much everyday. I will try this one out seems much less wasteful
What is done with the left overmaterial after taking the 10 gms for refreshing
Wow! Thank you! I’ve been eating to do a starter but as a mama of 8 I just didn’t know if I could find the time. The dry starter I can definitely manage😁
I started my own starter so many times over the years and got really fed up with it and while I had the ability to maintain it everybody and their brother loved my bread! I just can not maintain a starter in a crock any more. I am handicapped and it is hard for me to stand some days, so this is a better method, however, I do wish you would put in cc the recipe so that I will be able to write it down for my own use. After checking to see what it would take to be part of the community I will have to say because of my finances I will have to forego the option of enjoying your recipes. I live in the southeastern part of u.s.a. but was born and raised in the northeastern part of Oregon. Loved farm life when I was able and I will tell everyone that when you live on a farm that sustains itself there is no better life but it is hard work!
Notes to self: recipe and video amounts have a discrepancy.
When pulling out the starter to prepare to make bread:
30g dry starter
120g water
130g flour
Mix well and let sit covered for 2-3 hrs until bubbly and fragrant. Use in recipe as instructed as you would use a traditional starter.
To refresh dry starter:
10g starter
30g water
60g flour
Keep in fridge.
Which is the correct amounts? The video or the written recipe?
@@nonne7018 I've never had a recipe that called for a starter that was more than 100% hydration. So the written recipe must be correct.
Or not.
Not clear- up to day 5 or 6, you kept adding to the mass of dough. You only took 10g of that initial mass. What did you do with the rest? Tossed it? Why?
Also, yo don’t mention how often or if you refresh the entire “dry” starter sitting in the fridge. Can you leave it there forever without refreshing it? What if you don’t bake for 6 months or a year?
Once it is in the refrigerator, does it not need to be maintained at all until a little is refreshed for baking? Love this so much!
This is how we do it in Croatia too 💕
What do you do with the rest of the dry starter?
On day 5 do you throw away the rest of the starter (ie the part that is left after you take the 10 grams), or can we just use it as is to make sourdough bread?
You can add it to pancake mix, waffle mix, muffins. Whatever you want 😊
MissKaylaBee 
No, do not throw it out. Take 10 g, add 130 grams of water and 120 g of flour. This makes exactly one cup of sourdough starter. (You can get about five to six of these mixes out of the leftovers.) Cover tightly with plastic wrap and you should see bubbles within a few hours, I usually let mine sit out on the counter for about 8 hours or so. At this point you can make the bread that she has down below or you can use it to make pancakes or pretty much any other pastry or you can simply put them in your fridge to use another day. Hope this was a little helpful!
So, let me get this straight, day 5 when you refresh the 10 grams, is that a new container of dry starter after sitting out? Keeping the previous container to refresh as needed or is the day 5 refresher to bake the bread with after sitting to bubble up? Thanks in advance. All this measuring is so far different from the eyeball/hand measuring great grandma did for hers. I just did my day 3 refresh. It already smelled great with bubbles prior to the addition.
@@za7040 this is very helpful! Would you make a bunch of these from the extra starter or one big batch? I am on day 5 and don't want to throw away all that excess! But I'm new to starters and sourdough so any help would be very appreciated! Thank you!
Hello! :) Thank you for you recipe. I was just wondering: What do we do with the leftover on day 5? Can I use it as a starter?
I do not think so
I was wondering the same like do I toss it??
I would think you could refresh another 10 grams and have a few cakes in the refrigerator? Maybe give to a friend?
While it is really nice to have things consistent, a little variation in bread doesn't hurt. If the sour dough is too sour, try using a tiny bit and once it has risen add more if it is not sour enough. If it isn't bubbling enough, try putting the container on top of a cup, bowl, etc of warm (not too hot) water and see if it will activate more. My grandmother baked with sour dough for over 70 years and she would just fix what wasn't working and work with what she had...she also was just fine with happy accidents and surprises...you never know you might just like super sour dough or slightly wetter or dryer dough. There are also ways to make the crust crunchier or softer, maybe you like it one way or the other.
I had a starter for years...moved...started a new job...and it went, who knows where...lol. I need to start again. Good to learn about Einkorn being less of a problem for those of us with a slight intolerance. Thank you! BTW....would love to get 10 grams!
When do you know to refresh your starter after it's established?
Jennifer Joseph When you get low (like 10 or 20 grams left), it’s time to refresh!
@@theelliotthomestead Thank you. If I have a recipe that calls for active yeast, how would I convert this dry yeast to active yeast from the recipe?
@@poseidum157 Different recipe entirely. Luckily, you can find all kinds of sourdough recipes on the internet. I would recommend Jovial's Einkorn Cookbook if you're brand new to sourdough. It has lots of recipes from cinnamon rolls to breads to cakes.
@@theelliotthomestead what do you do with the remainder of the starter on day 5?
Okay, Day 5: Did refresh now waiting to see if I get the bubbles. Day 4 before feeding it I saw bubbles in my starter and good smell. Same with Day 5 so now just waiting to see if the bubbles are there after the refreshing. Thank you so much. I'd been putting off starting the wet method, but this one is so easy. Stay safe and healthy.
I want to see how you make some simple bread with that. This great!
What did you do with the rest of the starter after you refresh it on day 5 with only 10 grams of the original? Thanks♥
Discard it only until the starter is established- bubble and active within the stated 6-10 hrs.
On day 5, after removing the 10 grams and refreshing it, what do you you with the leftover original starter?
Exactly my question
This is called the discard,you can use it for pancakes,give it to your chooks or put it in your compost
Thank you! I have 1600 black plaque sourdough yeast but haven’t made a starter because of the high maintenance of the wet one. I’ll get a scale and start this dry one. Also, love the einkorn flour tip. We love bread but I have a gluten allergy and high weight gain with regular flour. Definitely investing in einkorn now.
Ohhh love the new intro for this!!
Thank you! We're excited to be focusing on some new cooking videos for you all. This will be our "kitchen" intro ;)
@@theelliotthomestead awesome!! I'm in the cooking community as well but always looking for more cooking videos to watch.🥰
How long will the starter keep in the fridge if left unattended? I like to go visit relatives for a week or so at a time.
I love sourdough AND einkorn! This is the first I've heard of a dry starter though. How would I go about transitioning a wet starter to a dry starter?
Feed your starter the way she does, and it will convert in about 2 or 3 feedings.
I recently tried to do a starter but it was way too high maintenance, I tossed it out. Will definitely give this a try. Thanks so much.
Noreen Kellett It’s SO MUCH EASIER!
I have a traditional sourdough starter. Can transform it to a dry one? I usually bake bread once a week. How often will I have to refresh this dry one? You answered earlier when there is 10-20 grams left, but really, referesh once a month or less? Sounds incredible.
Yes! Take 30 grams of your current starter and prepare like I said in the video. I refresh my starter once a week but I bake a lot of bread ;)
@@theelliotthomestead Thank you! I will try that. :)
@@theelliotthomestead 30gms at which stage?
@@bernadettematos7614 30g starter and 30g water and 60g flour would stiffen your wet starter into a dry one.
Great to learn new ways and I started to night 😊
what about that ‘left over starter’ - the 3x60 where I only need 10 g - can I use the first leftover for something?
Or do I misunderstand 😊
When you refresh your starter with 10g do you discard the rest?
Yes
I hardly ever comment on TH-cam, but I just had to say thank you. Making and using this starter has been a lovely experience for our family. Thank you for sharing!
Typed out instructions: Dry starter
To a bowl add 45 g (3 TBS) water and 60 g of flour
Pick up starter in hands and toss it
Put back in bowl, cover with plastic wrap. This is day 1. Room temp for 48 hrs.
Day 3 add
30 g = 2 tbs water
60 g = 4 tbs flour
Cover with plastic wrap
Day 4
Same as day 3
Day 5
1st refreshing of starter
Take out 10 grams (2/3 tbs) (2.3471 tps) put in bowl. To this add 30 grams water 60 grams flour. Mix. Put into small rectangular Tupperware or small glass mason jar.
Should have bubbles after 6-10 hrs of sitting at room temp and smell like good bread. If you don’t have this yet, then on day 6 repeat day 5 steps.
Keep in fridge. To make bread, a few hours before grab a chunk and refresh it: Take out 30 grams, put lid back on. Back in fridge
Always have at least 10 grams left in container!
Thank You!
I weighed out my flour (converting grams to ounces) and then converted to measuring cups it was more like 60g = 10Tablespoons of my flour. I did the comparison because I wasn't getting a dough ball with the measurements you posted. :)
Sophie Mbongo I normally don’t comment on TH-cam. However, when I read through most of the Q & A, I came across yours. That was very kind of you to take time typing out the instruction. Not many people will take that much care to help others. I’m touched by your kindness.
Thank you ❤
I just found your video and I'm very interested in this method. But I'm wondering what do you do with all of that dough mixture after you've taken the first 10 G out to to refresh? I guess I'm missing that step cuz I'm not understanding completely thank you love your video
So I am using a current wet starter I already have, I take 30 grams of wet starter and what amounts do I add to it to make it a dry starter?
Following
I assume 10 grams and the add 30 g water 60 g of flour I just did it.
Kim Esser did it work for you that way? I was gifted a traditional sourdough starter and I’d like to convert it to a dry one
Life In Spice yes but I haven’t made bread with it yet
60 grams of flour Mix cover and let sit out few hours till you see bubbles
1: I like this. This is a cool way to do starter.
2: I make about a loaf a week and so I just keep mine in the fridge. Pull it out and feed it and warm it to room temperature the morning that I want to use it, then use it, feed it again, and back in the fridge.
3: What I USED to do was maintain a starter at room temperature every day and I'd take the discard, and lay it out on a cookie sheet for the day to dry. Then at night I'd throw it in a blender and put the powder in a jar in the freezer. You can then use this (I saved up a big jar of discard and then stopped maintaining a live starter for months using the powder), the night before: Take X amount (X = tablespoon or two) of starter and feed with 2X flour and 2x water. Feed again in the morning. When it's ready, use it. Any excess can be dried, pulverized, and added back to the jar. I did this until I figured out the fridge worked perfectly for my rate of baking.
- Finally, I know most bakers love scales, and there's absolutely nothing wrong with using scales, but I would argue against using a scale, at least for a little while. Might be best to do this after you've gotten comfortable making sourdough. I don't use a scale. I don't measure anything. My bread isn't entirely consistent, but that's okay with me. I'm not running a bakery. I like the variation, for me. I believe this gives you a really good feel for what matters and what doesn't, in making a good loaf of bread. And at the end of the day, I can reliably make good bread, which is really what matters to me. Sometimes it's spectacular, and sometimes it's not as good as I'd like, but it's never bad. Once I accidentally left one fermenting overnight in my hot garage (an experiment I forgot about). The next morning it was totally collapsed, but I cooked it up anyway. Oh my, that was a SOUR loaf. It wasn't light and fluffy, and it was too sour for most things, but with some butter, it was really tasty. But so-so or great, I always learn something from the experience.
Thank you for posting this! There was one question in the Starter phase that I am confused about. “What do you do with the leftover starter After you take 10 grams out? I believe it’s on day 5. Do you just toss it?” Seems a bit wasteful.
My question too! I started two batches one for a friend, I have a lot left over
I'm also very confused about that part.
You can use it to make pancakes, waffles, etc. Just it fo their recipes.
This is my question as well.
There is one guy who’s instructions literally say “Throw it out. Just trust me.” I’m guessing that because of how much excess you can accumulate. Or maybe start sharing it with everyone?
Just came across this starter. Mine was to wet. I hope the refresh helps it. But dose smell good
When you are first making the starter and you've pulled your first 10 grams out, what do you do with the rest of what was there?
That is my question too !!
She puts the container back in the fridge until next time she wants to make bread.
@@Weedemandreap I was asking about the part she wasn't using. From when she first starts, she takes out 10 grams and works with it. What does she do with what was left in the bowl from the 10 grams she took to make the official dry starter?
Make a savory pancake!
Check it out on TH-cam!
Yea I wanted to ask that too. What can or do you do with the discard at the beginning....!?
Thank you for your tutorial and also the links to the scale and flour. God Bless!
So when you take your 30 grams.out of your starter to make bread.. do you add more to your starter?
How much do you add back in to your starter so you keep it from getting low.. I'm confused
@@providencegrove4600 thank you, it does help :)
Thank you for sharing this ... I had the traditional sourdough starter and like you, it because so much work and very hard to keep up with. I can't wait to try your method of a dry sourdough starter and bake some great Einkorn bread. I have berries to grind my own flour, once I use up the Einkorn flour i purchased. All the best to you. I enjoy your videos ...
So, when you take the 10 grams out and refresh it on day 5 or 6.. what do you do with the left over that you took from?
That becomes "discard" or could be used in another recipe (though the starter won't be very mature at this point). Keep in mind, that’s only for the last two days of establishing the starter. Once it is “up and running” you won’t need to discard. It always feels wasteful but Shaye's "dry" starter method is a lot less wasteful than other sourdough recipes. Thanks Shaye!!!
Start a second starter for a friend who bakes
@@DonnaBorooah I'm really confused! If you refresh with only 10 grams and add 30 grams of flour, that's so little. How to you end up with a container full like she has?
@theelliothomestead This is what I'm wondering as well. Once it's established and in the fridge do I discard EVERY time I refresh the 10 grams? I feel like it would never become more than 10gm + 30gm water + 60gm flour....I tried the one from farmhouse on boone and after it's established she doesn't discard anymore. She just feeds it and then takes out what she needs to bake.
Aisha MacInnis the great part this type of starter is that there isn’t really any discard once established (if using an refreshing with enough frequency). The established starter that stays in the fridge won’t need refreshing until there is only 10g left. So you take what you need for your recipe with that whole batch of starter, a little at a time. When there is only a small amount (10g) left in the container then you feed it.
Not me watching this for the 4th time.. its happening today! I'm making my sour dough start!
Hey Shaye! Thanks for this tutorial, I just started a one, I am so done with my wet starter 🙄. Can you tell me how often you need to feed the starter when its kept in the fridge or how often to refresh if you keep it in the fridge? I bake breads about 2-4 times a week.
She explains in video. I’ve watched it several times to get all instructions
Thank you for this! I finally started mine and I’m on day 3. (I used einkorn flour and filtered water…although we do have a water softener system, so I’m not sure if that is ideal.) My day 3 starter has turned gray with white spots, it also has bubbles, and smells a little “barnyard-esque” - this is before the day 3 feeding. I’m guessing I should just start over, because from what I understand, it’s meant to smell like good bread the whole time and there was no mention of discoloration. If anybody out there has any knowledge on this I would appreciate if you shared!
Around the day 3/4 Mark is when most people get concerned and throw away their starter when they shouldn't. Around the day three Mark the good lacto bacteria start taking over the bad bacteria which befin to die off. It can create a lot of bubbles for a day and then the next day when the same action doesn't happen people toss or stray from the course.
@@DebRoo11 Thank you! I did throw it away and I regret it! but I'm starting anew today with your information in mind.
@@ashkap13 i lost my patience so ai purchased a Kensington dry starter. I'll keep my own going till it gets reestablished but for 10 bucks i wish i had just purchased a mature starter frim the start 😋
I’ve been gifted some traditional starter from a friend. How do I convert what she gave me into a dry starter like yours?
I started out with traditional starter and I did just that - I used 10 grams traditional starter then mixed 30g water and 60g flour. I did this for maybe 2 days until I saw really nice bubbles and it smelled like starter, then stored it in the fridge. Today is the day I'm attempting to make bread with it, so I'll have to let you know how it goes!
@@SerinaVassar how did it go?
@@SandyMergui not as well as I had hoped! I think I left it alone for too long in the fridge and it got SUPER dried out... but I'll try again some time. The bread turned out to be OK, just much more dense than my traditional starter loaf. So, I guess this calls for more practice on my end!
Please make more videos like this! I learned so much. Thank you!💕
The sun is shining, I finally have a starter working bulbs are about to bloom. Its a good day. Great video.
Shaye, my kitchen is very warm because of the stove 🎉and the starter turned way too liquidy. Should I start again!? And can it be stored in the fridge from the off, in this case? Thank you. Love your videos!
Thank you for the advice!
Thank you for this! I'm excited about this different option than the traditional wet starter which was too difficult for me to keep up with. Question - after the first 48 hours of it being covered, I noticed a lot of bubbles and quite a strong (not bad) smell. I went ahead with day 3's instructions, but might it be ready sooner than day 5?
How do I make sure I always have enough starter? Do I have to do the process of starting a sourdough starter every time I’m running low?
Love the concept, but how does it catch the wild yeast if it is covered in plastic wrap instead of a towel?
It gets the yeast from the flour, it's a myth it gets it from the air.
@@wellfamily3925 interesting. I noticed in the Jovial video she said that, but she also mentioned yeast in the air later. Thank you for your comment!
@@kywifette5415 how confusing! That's why it's important to use a good quality flour, and definitely not bleached.
@@wellfamily3925 I'm blessed with a mill, so I grind mine. I thought I would try this recipe with rye grain flour. In theory, it's easy to make a starter with it.
I'm on day 3 and it already smells so good. I hope this works for me because years ago I had the traditional sourdough starter and like you it got overwhelming so I threw it out too. I'm hoping this will bring back my beloved sourdough bread.
My grandmother used this type of sourdough and I was looking high and low to find how to make and use it! So if I understand it correctly I follow the instructions to make my starter and then I keep it in the fridge. Every time I want to bake I use 10 gr to make my levain. When I have 10-20 gr left I refresh my starter. Is that how it works? Thank you!
You have understood her directions perfectly!
Hi Shaye, can one do a dry starter like yours using gluten free bread?
Question: You say take all the starter then add to it for the feedings, Jovial foods says to take 10g for the bright starter (under the surface) then add 30g water and 60g flour. Why do you keep all if Jovial says you should discard it? Do you find it works better for you this way? Thanks :)
Yes this is my exact question as well! I just tried to do a starter when I first discovered jovials instructional TH-cam video and when it failed I end up finding this one that is very similar with a couple different steps as you mentioned so I'm wondering does this make a difference especially since my failed I'm wanting to try this one instead?
So when I almost run out of starter, use what’s left and add water, dissolve it, add flour and stick in fridge? Thanks!
And you dont have to feed it in the frig. Just restart when your down to the last bit?
Yep!
Started mine today - fingers crossed. This seems so much easier than other tutorials I’ve read and watched!
How did it go, Amy?
@@Jess_Connell it went well. Super easy to keep up. I would say definitely worth a try!
I didn't understand one thing. When there is only 10 grams left of the starter in the fridge, do I need to bring it out and add 30 g water 60 g flour for another 5-6 days? Sorry I've never done sourdough.
Once you've gone through the week long process and have a mature starter it should only take a few hours to refresh assuming the temperature is around 75-80 degrees. So 10g of mature, healthy starter becomes 100g of mature starter in 2-3 hours.
Temperature has a big impact on speed, btw. Starter will mature twice as fast at 80 degrees as it will at 70 degrees, and will stop fermenting completely at 40 degrees.
Definitely trying ur starter and recipe. Thank u😅
So....just to verify no feedings are required on a regular basis, just prior to baking and when the starter gets low?
That’s what it seems like, with all the research I’ve done that sounds alright