Video subject requested by "Connor (Eclipse) Lore corrections: - It could make sense for Anequina (North Elsweyr) to become a vassal state in the second scenario
@@mohamedfayez6981 I honestly don't think that forcing the Dominion to worship Talos would be possible except in a second war between the Empire and the Dominion. Even then, Talos-worship would be inevitable.
The Thalmor were destroyed, the Dwemer came back, Imperial dragons invaded Akavir, the Nerevarine ascended to Amaranth, and Talos gave everyone sweetrolls. The end.
What People? I'm here somewhat shitting on you about Second Era stuff on every video YET I didn't see these people....Also those beings are but Mortal Fools who could NEVER tell the Great and Mighty Zork what to do!
The Empire’s situation at the end of The Great War often reminds me of Imperial Germany in WW1. By the end of their respective wars both empires were devoid of resources and manpower and, although they still had most of their territory, were forced to sue for peace.The only difference between them was that the Empire was able to somewhat recover while The German Empire collapsed less then a year later.
reminds me more of soviets vs nazis, people are like oh the dominion had more armies, so did the nazis after the loss of the 6th army, the soviets still kept fighting because they weren't pussies, also helped their tyrant at time would never accept defeat. As far as i can see it looks like a battle of stalingrad where soviets won and than decided to surrender. The last battle of the empire was the destruction of the main army of the dominion, by all rights it should be the turning point of the war, resulting in at least imperial-dominion stalemate, instead the emperor, the coward he is, betrayed the empire and sold out his empire. Perhaps he simple valued cyrodil lives more than the lives of his whole empire, as undoubtable cyrodil would take the brunt of the war as it was mostly fight in their land, and southern hammerfell, but victory was entirely possible for the empire after the redring, even if taking summerset wasn't, they didnt have to surrender.
senior no face in blue background they outlawed the worship of Talos to have peace with the Thalmor, not because they are puppets. The Empire is buying time for the war against the Thalmor. It’s bound to happen, with all the hatred between the Empire and Dominion, and once it happens Talos worship is legal again
Its quite an interesting thought. However since every role played nerevarine had his/her own personality and own accomplishments and reasons for doing quests, it would be quite unpredictable to say anything on. For example if I were to say, the nerevarine would help in the battle with alduin (just example) then people would say: hey, my nerevarine would never do that! It poses the problem that the motivations I would describe in this video would be the ones of the character from my own morrowind playtrough and thus I would dissapoint a lot of people with it
The Nerevarine would have no reason to be in Skyrim, especially since the Dragon Crisis was Tamriel-Wide, not just isolated in Skyrim, though it was centered there. Morrowind would be hit pretty bad especially since the place was pretty much wrecked since the Red Year, and would have no viable defenses. And, if he WAS in akavir, imagine the dragon crisis over there, the Tsaesci slaughtered tonnes of dragons, possibly far more than were in Tamriel. Place'd be a mess. no real reason to be in skyrim if your homelands being cucked.
To be fair to the Empire though, they DID win the Great War. I know I know, it was a "stalemate", but in realistic terms, they have the upper hand on the Elves. The Battle of the Red Ring was the single greatest loss of Elven life in thousands of years. Their females produce one, maybe two, children over their entire ling lives, and some produce none at all. Assuming it was mostly younger Elves drafted for the war, the Empire effectively crippled the ability of the Dominion to spawn a new generation of soldiers. It will take a century or more to recoup their losses, hence why the Thalmor is so pressed about dissolving the Empire.
That's not actually true. High Elves can reproduce as much as humans but often don't. Bosmer and khajiit produce like crazy. Dunmer can reproduce as much as humans. It was only some Imperial propaganda that mentions them practicing eugenics and being less fertile. It is likely the having a 300 yr life with children reaching puberty at 19 and likely adulthood at 30 can slow your reproductive urges down
I’d think a scenario where the empire wins is simple- the forgotten hero gets the orb of Vaermina early. Without knowledge of what would happen beforehand, and with only an opening invasion that wasn’t finished yet, the Aldmeri Dominion would be at a serious disadvantage.
I notice that a people are reluctant to talk about Imperial invasions of Valenwood and Elsewhere as well as audacious attacks on the Iles themselves in alternate Great War/ Second Great War scenarios.
@Tranzeossiz Catsoziss Because Alduin has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the Great War or Empire at all! He was sent forward in time to the point in Skyrim way way back in time by the Old Nordic Dovahkiin's he WOULD always no matter what come into play! The ONLY difference an Imperial Victory makes is the Last Dragonborn would NEVER be on the Execution Carriage to Helgen, Because the Imperials WOULDN'T have called for Martial Law/Blockage of the Pale Pass Trade Route if the Stormcloak Rebellion never rebelled against the Empire...Leading to the Dragonborn having free access to Skyrim WITHOUT any Consequences like False Imprisonment/Execution. Leading to them simply taking longer to respond to Alduin's Attack of the Unknown Town of Helgen because Jarl Balgruuf and the Last Dragonborn wouldn't have known about Helgen. BUT yes the Last Dragonborn WOULD MUST CERTAINLY still become the Dovahkiin when some Random Dragon attacks them and then they defend themselves by killing it then absorbing it's soul...Leading to the Events of the Main Quest in Skyrim no matter what!
Tranzeossiz Catsoziss because alduin was sent forward in time by a group of nord warriors THOUSANDS OF YEARS before ANY elder scrolls game! Seriously?? How do you not know this?
My first Skyrim play through I went with the Stormcloaks. As the story progressed and I found that dossier in the Thalmor Embassy, I started to have severe doubts. By the end of the rebellion I pretty much said to myself “this was possibly the worst idea ever” after we killed Tulius. I never did another storm cloak play through.
For me the empire just had to last a little longer and get the thamor to think they had countless troops ready for battle and with the rest of its provieces that still fight with them slowing push back the thramor and thencould win the war it be hard and costly but at least the empire would not be divided.
I think one big issue with people saying the civil war in Skyrim would not have happened is that that theory is completely bunk. The sons of Skyrim spilling their own blood. The civil war was prophesied with Aduins return so it was going to happen no matter what.
The Forgotten Hero it is 100% how the project works. Literally the first trailer to Skyrim spelled it out. “The Elder Scrolls told of their return. After the gates to Oblivion opened, and the sons of Skyrim will spill their own blood.”
And what do the Scrolls tell? *Possibilities* The events of the Scrolls are not set in stone. They need people in order for them to come true. The Dragonguard listed down the exact prophecy of Alduin's return, you really think that if they'd known *when* he would return they wouldn't have told Reman the *exact date* ? Rather being symbolic as shit? No. Of course not. Because that's not how prophecy works. At least not in TES,
The Thalmor destroyed, Skyrim becomes free anyways because High King Torygg yelled at Ulfric so hard he died, Sheogorath gives everyone some Eidar cheese, you are carrying too much to run, and someone stole my sweet rolls.
I don’t think the Empire could have forced the Thalmor to concede all that in scenario 2. The Empire would need to counter-attack successfully for the Thalmor to concede all that. I think scenario 2 would end as a cease fire, with no concessions from either side. The reason I think that is, in scenario 2, the Empire can’t counter-attack. Thus, when the Thalmor say no, the Empire can’t do anything about it.
If the empire wanted to continue after defeating the Dominion army they could have used quick conscripted armies with minimal training using the conscripts to weaken domion forces with waves of conscripts ensuring almost death and leaving proper legionnaires able to defeat the weakened dominion forces
I considered that, however someone reminded me of the fact that they will likely not disclose the location. They will probably sell us different cities you can have with microtransactions and not have a very consistent story. Might not come true, the game might be great in terms of story. But this actually sounded pretty likely since its a free game :(
no Imperial knowledge they must have a location set for the elder scrolls blades for sure so plz make a video about it and even if they dont show us the location to where it is and when it takes place which i think is unlikely try to search about it and make a video.
Frist Name Last Name Keep that trump buffon away from the glorious Empire, thanks. The Empire of Tamriel is a place were any race is welcomed. There are no walls under the Ruby Throne
What if a few of the Blades survived faking their deaths then Informed the Empire of the Dominion's plan. So The Empire struck first before the Dominion.
Maybe, but the Empire was simply not prepared for War. Plue, the Dominion would probably have speed up the war. Once they known that the Blades have there plans. It would have lead to a much bloodier War, as the Great War, was the Dominion taking the Empire by surprise. Even, if the Blades somehow escaped the Dominion, and did worn the Emperor, would would just speed up the War, instead of allowing the Elves to go throw with there plans.
@@fristnamelastname5549 The point is the Dominion doesn't know the agents managed to fake their deaths and escape, so The Empire has the chance to catch the Dominion by surprise.
Thinking on it, the only chance the Empire had of an early victory would have been if the Empire had had one, or even better, two months notice of the impending invasion.
Yeah, i just mainly skipped the whole win explanation and tried to just conclude, they win. It poses too many strategic speculation to ask how they could have won
@@ImperialKnowledge I was happy to work on scenarios and should you wish to add to it, give me some advanced notice and I'll see what I can slam together.
no orb of vaermina = easy imperial victory. even with a surprise attack, without the knowledge of the outcome of every future battle, and how to alter it to best suit the dominion, the dominion's forces would lack numbers and the open-battle mastery of the empire, and would be defeated, be it swiftly or eventually.
I was gping to ask what would happen if the dragon born came back earlier around the time of the great war? But then i had another leading thought what would the empire in cyrodyl think when they hear reports of the dragon born and alduin and whatever side the dragon born picked in the civil war? Plus the DB quest line and then you have to wonder about beyond skyrim because they have an argonian talk to you in a bath house about the state of the empire and at this point you have provable dragon blood there may be no emporer on the throne (depending on DB quest) and that would ultimatly give your pc the best right to the ruby throne would it not? What kind of chaos would that put the empire in would it help or hurt more espeically witg the thamor conflict
I noticed that Hammerfel had extra 5 years and multitudes of victories. Now I'm imagining the combined economies of the 4 human nations and the recruitment of peoples from High Rock and Skyrim that weren't being fully used. If Hammerfel can win that 5 year war, and likely a bunch of skirmishes in the aftermath, with added bonus of imperial coin and Imperial recruited Breton armies likely entering Hammerfel. And more Nordic armies entering into war, they could hold on. If they could draw for 30 years they could avoid civil war and allocate the resources. Since Skyrim isn't dead. I don't think the war will last 30 years of course. And I can greatly imagine if the Dovahkiin got involved anything could happen. Unfortunately I don't know shit or small butterfly affect factors that can do on so I don't know anything. If one was willing to sacrifice half of the human races to take out the smaller Dominion populations I would take that sacrifice for the long run. It's just unfortunate the war in Tamriel didn't result into the extermination of the Altmer, Bosmer and Khajiit. Hammerfel would still be screwed though of course.
one problem I have with these scenarios is that it makes it seem like the control of information in such an -Kind of medieval-like- era is something that would be difficult for a state to do. Also such a massive nation as the Dominion which seems to have a higher standard of living and most likely a fairly dense population because of that, it is likely that the Dominion could quickly raise new troops this wasn't a war on the scale of ww1 so man-power shortages aren't likely an issue and the main territory of the Dominion are islands which makes them very easy to defend and means they can commit far more forces to attack than the Empire can in most casses
Except the fact that the High Elf population generally is far too low to even compare to Cyrodill's. The Empire would in every case outnumber the Aldmeri forces. If they drafted Bosmer, they'd find themselves riding on the back of steep unrest in Valenwood. They wouldn't risk a second war behind their lines, especially one that they would almost certainly lose.
@@khaganofturanistan8753 yes the aldmeri would easily be outnumbered however the Aldmeri have a higher percentage of mages which are similar to musketeers in late medieval times in that the placement of them can decide a battle and while the Aldmeri population and birth rate is lower, it is not such that a war like this would strip it of all its man-power
Comparing an Aldmeri mage to a Musketeer is not accurate. Yes, Aldmeri Mages are in far greater supply than Imperial, however, that does not mean that they would win an open-field engagement. The Empire is canonically known to be masters at that specific form of warfare, which is why the Thalmor used the Orb of Vaermina in Cyrodill, instead of High Rock, where the land was far more suited for an Imperial Victory given the circumstances that almost every battle would take place. Thalmor Mages would be likely spread extremely thin, with only about 20-40 per army (A small number considering the scale of the conflict) where they would not be able to make a decisive difference. An Army is only as good as its tactics, not its firepower, in such an open-field engagement, and the Aldmer would not win a battle simply because they have more mages. And, lets say they're filling the role of a late medieval "Musketeer". Musketeers did not exist in the Medieval Period, instead, Arquebuses and Hand Cannons are the proper firearms. They are renouned for doing more morale damage instead of physical damage, which is why late medieval warfare was still judged by the common soldier, rather than the Arquebusier. A common situation could be applied to engagements between the two armies. An Imperial Army with a numbers advantage of around 2-3x, sometimes even reaching as high as 5 or 6 times that of the Aldmer army would be able to effectively fight against a smaller force where their mages aren't being efficiently. In the Elder Scrolls especially, Mages are meant for more medium-rage style combat, with most magic at long range being inaccurate or ineffective. A Thalmor Wizard filling the shoes of an Arquebusier would quickly find himself useless, and prone to cavalry flank attacks. The same applies to a frontline Thalmor Wizard, who would be protected by a moderate amount of the army's forces, being a key person in the battle, thus drawing more forces away from the flanks and allowing for encircling. Using mages in any way to clutch a battle with such circumstances that'd be present is a terrible idea unless you're willing to whip every mage in Alinor.
@@khaganofturanistan8753 how large is an army in this sense because I doubt that out of 100,000-80,000 that there are only 40 battle mages probably more like 2-4,000 and when I called them "musketeers" I should have just said that the deployment of them in a battle could be decisive since there are explosive spells and so on and I'm not saying that they should be placed by themselves in a large section and as Alinor has been part of the empire for some time it is likely that they have somewhat similar tactics and its clear that the Altmer aren't terrible at warfare as they managed to push there way deep into Cyrodill and my main point was that the Altmer are even now(and had they been defeated in the war) probably very capable of repelling an invasion especially of there homeland as they would understand the need for a powerful navy more so than the Empire being an island nation
The Altmer aren't terrible at war, no, but they didn't just "Push their way deep into Cyrodill". They utilised the Eye of Vaermina to predict every future battle in the war, how to alter it, and every move the Empire would make during said battle. Almost every victory they made was clutched by the Orb, in most cases their forces were badly outnumbered around 5-1, and in some cases 10-1. No, the Altmer do not have similar tactics to the Empire. Even though Alinor was in the Empire, it does not mean military tactics, especially ones made by man, would be adopted by the Altmer. This can be seen in places such as High Rock and Hammerfell, where they still rely on their traditional style of warfare even under Imperial control. Yes, the Altmer could, no, WOULD repell an invasion of Alinor, but taking Valenwood would cripple the Dominion enough for them to be forced to surrender. The Dominion is in no shape to take out the entire Imperial Navy in this scenario with just Alinor, as it gives the Empire a single target to put all their fleets towards, and Alinor would most likely fall under a heavy blockade and/or bombardment. No, the Altmer navy isn't stronger than the Empire's, the Empire actually has a fleet around 7-8x that of the Dominion's at the start of the first war. The only reason the Dominion dominated navally was because of the Imperial Fleet's Disorganisation, with various elements posted around the continent while the Dominion's navy was mainly, and only, in Alinor and Valenwood, a small area in comparison. No, there are not 2,000-4,000 battlemages. Yes, the Altmer are very attuned to magic, but no, they cannot pump out wizards like rabbits pump out babies. If that were the case, every mage would be an Altmer. Battlemages were not a common commodity. The Empire actually generally had more battlemages at the start of the war due to them controlling both High Rock and the Arcane College, though Imperial Mages weren't as superior as Altmer ones. Also, an Altmer Army would NEVER reach 80,000, even during the first great war, such numbers were never seen. The Altmer have, and have always had, a relatively small population. High Elves are selective breeders, they only breed once every few decades or so, while a human family can pump out far more. Explosive spells exist in, in a way, but are by no means powerful enough to sway the tide of a battle, and can drain the user's magicka for an extended period of time. Neither effective nor efficient.
Morrowind would be fucked as they would then try to enforce deadra worship ban in morrowind and if we refused they would retake morrowind and just kill us
I don't know why people give The Empire and Emperor crap over pursuing peace at the time that was the most logical and viable option they had at the time.
I'm sure that Titus Mede 2 had a very extensive plan, one that all other High Kings were privy to, that would completely crush the Thalmor; however one man kept throwing wrinkles in his plan: Ulfric Stormcloak. First, the Markarth Incident allowed the Thalmor to have a presence in Skyrim; then Ulfric kills Torygg after winning a duel, and the whole rebellion became a waste of resources and lives
The Stormcloaks winning isn't what the Thalmor want. Yes, the Empire is a small percentage weaker, but with exceedingly loyal territories in High Rock and Cyrodill, the Empire would remain able to fight. Even with Cryodill alone, the Empire would win a second war. The Thalmor only won the first due to magical artifact bumfuckery and strategy. They lost a lot of men, and the Thalmor and the High Elves in general are selective breeders, meaning it takes an extensive period of time for population to replenish in comparison to Humans. If Cyrodill hasn't fully recovered by Skyrim, which it hadn't, then the Dominion would certainly be way further behind. The Thalmor wanted a long, drawn out civil war in Skyrim, with no actual consideration to who was victorious. They wished for the Empire to draw legions away to fight in Skyrim, and wished for the Empire's forces to take some amount of moderate-heavy casualties in the fighting so that the Thalmor could have somewhat of an edge in the next war. Considering what happens ingame, which are relatively tiny battles for forts and two for Major Cities, casualties were basically minimal for dedicated Imperial Forces. Dont forget that instead of sending a Legion, they gave farmboys weapons, and gave the farmboys to Tullius. They knew he could pull it off with farmboys, thus negating any reason to bring in a Legion. Tullius saying its what they want is just him eluding that a Legion would come, which is actually canon that there is a Legion waiting at the other side of Pale Pass for the road to be cleared, and give the Thalmor the casualties they desire.
Yes, yes just because of a raging "warlord" he gives up one of the Empire's strongest province, bans the worship of the God of MAN and surrenders to conditions set before the war... while he was on the offensive... and WINNING. Yeah, I don't see why wouldn't people bitching about this.
In real life some countries in war half short names, like jappo, sinno, Russo, Franco, or Anglo. Maby Cyrodiil could be Cyro If we go further, maby Argo for Argonia and Valo for Valenwood and so on
Eduardo Vieira I'm not sure about this but since the Thalmor goal is to destroy existance, shouldn't a dragon break be impossible? A dragon break makes every possible ending happen in different ways, but if you end the world there are no basis for any ending
Personally when it comes to the The Empire winning the Great War, the only scenario I can think and commit to a TH-cam comment would be this: 1. The Empire and Penetus Octulotus discover the existence of the Orb of Vaermina and are able to seize/destroy it before the Cyrodiillic front is able to get as dire as it got. 2. Without the Orb in Dominion hands the Empire devotes most of its resources to crushing the Cyrodiil front, recapture Bravil and Leyawiin then prepare to move on Hammerfell. 3. (Assuming the Dominion Army catches wind of the defeat in Cyrodiil) The Dominion begins to pull back toward the coast to lessen the risk of being enveloped but only makes it to the Hammerfell/Cyrodiil border before being forced to fight, the battle itself I think would be closer to "Pyrrhic" than the Empire would like since at least half would've been force marched to catch the Dominion army before it could slip away. After the battle (Battle of the Gold Coast for sake of argument) the Imperials quickly recapture Anvil and then take time to rest. 4. (Assuming the Imperials are exhausted from the battles the fought with the Hammerfell invasion force and retaking of Anvil) The Empire (again) takes some time to rest and recuperate as they repair the southern defenses. 5. While the repairs of Cyrodiils defenses are under way, the Emperor buys time with seeking out talks with the Thalmor, (assuming he is able to buy at least a few months) The Imperials prepare an invasion of Valenwood and send agents to try and recruit Bosmer to act as scouts and guides for the Imperials, maybe also agitate dissidents against the Thalmor to tie their resources down as well with the Thalmor in a weakened state. 6. (Assuming even minimal requirements for a Valenwood invasion are met) The Imperials invade Valenwood and are able to capture the most Imperial loyal parts but get pushed back from further invasion. 7. With the Invasion of Valenwood ground to a halt and Cyrodiil has serviceable defenses, Titus Mede II then decides to make peace with the Dominion and gets a lot of bargaining room. His treaty grants the Empire war reparations, valenwoods northern most province, the release of Imperial prisoners, Dominion prisoners only released at ransom and annual tribute to the Empire. This is my scenario and obviously there's probably holes but this is a summary of my thoughts.
What do the dominion want in hammerfell? Some kinda dwemer tech or research? I believe there's dwemer ruins in hammerfell and that's all i could think of that they would find valuable. Yeah it's probably tactical, requesting something they knew would split hammerfell from the empire but it seems suspicious
Mehrunes Dagon would have overrun Tamriel and Nirn or if you refer that they light the Dragon Fires in time. Martin would become emperor and we wouldn't be in the deep shit we are in the events of the fourth era.
read Modern Heretics then was it stated it not legal yet public would have them hanged and court have to enforces public safety over people that are not so useful and the mages guild was the only thing holding the deadra worshiper safe in empire land there gone now so it back to mob rule as for orsimer the imperials will just lie and say it trinnimac they worship witch technically they do if the person accused of deadra worship does not take part in lie there screwed
@@ivanf.482 I felt that while Ulfric was cool it would've been cooler to fight the church of Ysmir or the old nord Pantheon problem is Bethesda was so lazy with Nordic culture that it felt like two Imperial factions we're fighting each other
Gonna be honest here: any fair fight between Elves and Men will be a complete victory for the Elves. The Elves are simply too OP, as they live for hundreds of years and are inherently magical.
That's their flaw. See, Humans have much shorter lifespans and breed in greater numbers. What I am saying is, a Humans ambition and potential legacy with a shorter lifespan goes further as they have more to prove in such a short time. Humans learn much quicker in terms of survival and combat aswel. It's a natural instinct for survival. Beings that tend to live longer, normally take things slower.
Such horrible bad video with arrogance in it your own opinion does not matter kid Make this idea in your head by the end of the battle of the imperial city both forces were rather depleted, the imperials did infact conquer it back now just lead a slow war from there south
Proto European Historian he literally said it was just a theory video for fun, you came in the comments calling him "kid" and YOU talk about arrogance?
Video subject requested by "Connor (Eclipse)
Lore corrections:
- It could make sense for Anequina (North Elsweyr) to become a vassal state in the second scenario
The Empire should force them to worship Talos.
@@mohamedfayez6981 I honestly don't think that forcing the Dominion to worship Talos would be possible except in a second war between the Empire and the Dominion. Even then, Talos-worship would be inevitable.
The Thalmor were destroyed, the Dwemer came back, Imperial dragons invaded Akavir, the Nerevarine ascended to Amaranth, and Talos gave everyone sweetrolls. The end.
sign me up
And the unusual gem became useful.
And the argonaians sacked house dres.
If this ISN'T tes6, color me disappointed.
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What People? I'm here somewhat shitting on you about Second Era stuff on every video YET I didn't see these people....Also those beings are but Mortal Fools who could NEVER tell the Great and Mighty Zork what to do!
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The Empire’s situation at the end of The Great War often reminds me of Imperial Germany in WW1. By the end of their respective wars both empires were devoid of resources and manpower and, although they still had most of their territory, were forced to sue for peace.The only difference between them was that the Empire was able to somewhat recover while The German Empire collapsed less then a year later.
Make the Imperial Empire great again
Except the Empire Won the last Battle. Imperial Germany was getting hammered from all sides at the end of World War One.
Not a good example. I have a better one: The Treaty of Vasvár in 1664.
i think the empire would be more like the byzantines during 13th century
reminds me more of soviets vs nazis, people are like oh the dominion had more armies, so did the nazis after the loss of the 6th army, the soviets still kept fighting because they weren't pussies, also helped their tyrant at time would never accept defeat. As far as i can see it looks like a battle of stalingrad where soviets won and than decided to surrender.
The last battle of the empire was the destruction of the main army of the dominion, by all rights it should be the turning point of the war, resulting in at least imperial-dominion stalemate, instead the emperor, the coward he is, betrayed the empire and sold out his empire. Perhaps he simple valued cyrodil lives more than the lives of his whole empire, as undoubtable cyrodil would take the brunt of the war as it was mostly fight in their land, and southern hammerfell, but victory was entirely possible for the empire after the redring, even if taking summerset wasn't, they didnt have to surrender.
With the First Scenario the war would probably be called "That one war that lasted a few weeks between The Empire and The Aldmeri Dominion"
First Aldmeri border war or something to that effect.
I think this should be "How the great war should have ended"
Basically, Tamriel would be a better place.
Yes wait the storm cloaks might not happen NOOOOOOOO!!!!!!
"I want civil war"
Ok goofy, the Stormcloaks are just Thalmor puppets anyways
NeedMorePuppies but the empire is thalmor puppet why do you think the empire outlawed worshiping talos
senior no face in blue background they outlawed the worship of Talos to have peace with the Thalmor, not because they are puppets. The Empire is buying time for the war against the Thalmor. It’s bound to happen, with all the hatred between the Empire and Dominion, and once it happens Talos worship is legal again
Ilija Kovachevich yeah I just realized that But still the stormcloaks are not thalmor puppet
What if the Nerevarine never left Morrowind and was present during the events of Skyrim?
Its quite an interesting thought. However since every role played nerevarine had his/her own personality and own accomplishments and reasons for doing quests, it would be quite unpredictable to say anything on.
For example if I were to say, the nerevarine would help in the battle with alduin (just example) then people would say: hey, my nerevarine would never do that!
It poses the problem that the motivations I would describe in this video would be the ones of the character from my own morrowind playtrough and thus I would dissapoint a lot of people with it
Could use mk version of it but then again we most like don't know his personal vision on the neravirene
You can never acquire Keening from Arniel's Endeavor
The Nerevarine would have no reason to be in Skyrim, especially since the Dragon Crisis was Tamriel-Wide, not just isolated in Skyrim, though it was centered there. Morrowind would be hit pretty bad especially since the place was pretty much wrecked since the Red Year, and would have no viable defenses. And, if he WAS in akavir, imagine the dragon crisis over there, the Tsaesci slaughtered tonnes of dragons, possibly far more than were in Tamriel. Place'd be a mess. no real reason to be in skyrim if your homelands being cucked.
I have a dunmer character as my protagonist for the ‘big 3’ games. Can you tell I’m unreasonably emotionally attached to a cluster of pixels?
No idea how you crank out so many great videos man. You're a machine! I think you might be a Dwarven Centurion...
What if the dwarves never disappeared?
I wish they will find a way to bring them back in TES 6
Maiq will make them
appear
To be fair to the Empire though, they DID win the Great War. I know I know, it was a "stalemate", but in realistic terms, they have the upper hand on the Elves. The Battle of the Red Ring was the single greatest loss of Elven life in thousands of years. Their females produce one, maybe two, children over their entire ling lives, and some produce none at all. Assuming it was mostly younger Elves drafted for the war, the Empire effectively crippled the ability of the Dominion to spawn a new generation of soldiers. It will take a century or more to recoup their losses, hence why the Thalmor is so pressed about dissolving the Empire.
Talos:
That's not actually true. High Elves can reproduce as much as humans but often don't. Bosmer and khajiit produce like crazy. Dunmer can reproduce as much as humans. It was only some Imperial propaganda that mentions them practicing eugenics and being less fertile. It is likely the having a 300 yr life with children reaching puberty at 19 and likely adulthood at 30 can slow your reproductive urges down
I’d think a scenario where the empire wins is simple- the forgotten hero gets the orb of Vaermina early. Without knowledge of what would happen beforehand, and with only an opening invasion that wasn’t finished yet, the Aldmeri Dominion would be at a serious disadvantage.
I notice that a people are reluctant to talk about Imperial invasions of Valenwood and Elsewhere as well as audacious attacks on the Iles themselves in alternate Great War/ Second Great War scenarios.
Yes! I've waited for this for a long time , thanks Zork! - Hamid the Door Salesman
I somehow saw a palpatine reference in this... Dont know how...
'I've waited a long time for this , my little green friend.' ( laughs maniacally)
Exactly that
The civil war wouldnt happen and Alduin wouldnt be back. Hamerfell still imperial. Blades play a major role in TES V IF Alduin still came back.
Alduin would very much be back
How ??
@Tranzeossiz Catsoziss
Because Alduin has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the Great War or Empire at all! He was sent forward in time to the point in Skyrim way way back in time by the Old Nordic Dovahkiin's he WOULD always no matter what come into play!
The ONLY difference an Imperial Victory makes is the Last Dragonborn would NEVER be on the Execution Carriage to Helgen, Because the Imperials WOULDN'T have called for Martial Law/Blockage of the Pale Pass Trade Route if the Stormcloak Rebellion never rebelled against the Empire...Leading to the Dragonborn having free access to Skyrim WITHOUT any Consequences like False Imprisonment/Execution. Leading to them simply taking longer to respond to Alduin's Attack of the Unknown Town of Helgen because Jarl Balgruuf and the Last Dragonborn wouldn't have known about Helgen.
BUT yes the Last Dragonborn WOULD MUST CERTAINLY still become the Dovahkiin when some Random Dragon attacks them and then they defend themselves by killing it then absorbing it's soul...Leading to the Events of the Main Quest in Skyrim no matter what!
Tranzeossiz Catsoziss because alduin was sent forward in time by a group of nord warriors THOUSANDS OF YEARS before ANY elder scrolls game! Seriously?? How do you not know this?
Yusuf yusuf seriously? Have you not played Skyrim?
My first Skyrim play through I went with the Stormcloaks. As the story progressed and I found that dossier in the Thalmor Embassy, I started to have severe doubts. By the end of the rebellion I pretty much said to myself “this was possibly the worst idea ever” after we killed Tulius. I never did another storm cloak play through.
I'm surprised u dident mention how the events of skyrim would of not happened ie the return of the dragons
I was focussing on the semi-direct consequenses on the political level
To be fair dragons could potentially still come back but maybe in a different way/different time era
What if the HERO of Kvatch died in the battle of BRUMA?
Load previous save, problem solved.
i just say: "The Man in the High Castle"
The man in the white gold tower
@@kyletanking I would love to see a tamriel divided in that way !
@@johnnystonks3970
Wait, how would it be divided, exactly? I haven't seen Man in the High Castle
If the Empire still had blackmarsh and Morrowind, during the start of the Great War do you think they could have one
When you are more interested in a war in a video game than wars in real life.
Only true imperials requested this one.
I wondered about that. Ty for the enlightenment
For me the empire just had to last a little longer and get the thamor to think they had countless troops ready for battle and with the rest of its provieces that still fight with them slowing push back the thramor and thencould win the war it be hard and costly but at least the empire would not be divided.
I think one big issue with people saying the civil war in Skyrim would not have happened is that that theory is completely bunk. The sons of Skyrim spilling their own blood. The civil war was prophesied with Aduins return so it was going to happen no matter what.
Yeah true
That's not how it works.
That civil war wouldn't have happened, that's not how the prophecy works.
The Forgotten Hero it is 100% how the project works. Literally the first trailer to Skyrim spelled it out. “The Elder Scrolls told of their return. After the gates to Oblivion opened, and the sons of Skyrim will spill their own blood.”
And what do the Scrolls tell?
*Possibilities*
The events of the Scrolls are not set in stone. They need people in order for them to come true.
The Dragonguard listed down the exact prophecy of Alduin's return, you really think that if they'd known *when* he would return they wouldn't have told Reman the *exact date* ? Rather being symbolic as shit?
No. Of course not. Because that's not how prophecy works. At least not in TES,
The Prophecy of the Dragonborn, Alduins Wall? The thing the entire game is based off of?
Then the Thalmor would be turned White instead of Gold when they saw the Imperial concordat.
It would probably be called the Crystal-Gold Concordant
Do a vid on the ideal masters and explain if they get all souls soul traped
The Thalmor destroyed, Skyrim becomes free anyways because High King Torygg yelled at Ulfric so hard he died, Sheogorath gives everyone some Eidar cheese, you are carrying too much to run, and someone stole my sweet rolls.
I always thought of the Aldemeri Dominion and the High Elves as being the Romulan Star Empire. The High Elves look and act just like Romulans.
imperial justicars. .. such a potential for role play build. hope Fudgemupet will make a video about that
Sugesst that in there next vid
''It's over dominon, I've the hihg ground!''
M Lupa Noir “you underestimate my power!”
@@thedemonhater7748 "Dont try it pointed eared!"
@Deniz Metin T.
This means the Dominion will rise again and kill the Empire, leading to some time of chaos
I wonder what the events of Skyrim would look like.
I don’t think the Empire could have forced the Thalmor to concede all that in scenario 2. The Empire would need to counter-attack successfully for the Thalmor to concede all that. I think scenario 2 would end as a cease fire, with no concessions from either side.
The reason I think that is, in scenario 2, the Empire can’t counter-attack. Thus, when the Thalmor say no, the Empire can’t do anything about it.
Skyrim would never had civil war and the image of Elven supremacy would be crushed.
If the empire wanted to continue after defeating the Dominion army they could have used quick conscripted armies with minimal training using the conscripts to weaken domion forces with waves of conscripts ensuring almost death and leaving proper legionnaires able to defeat the weakened dominion forces
imperial knowledge make a video for where and when might the elder scrolls blades location is.
I considered that, however someone reminded me of the fact that they will likely not disclose the location. They will probably sell us different cities you can have with microtransactions and not have a very consistent story.
Might not come true, the game might be great in terms of story. But this actually sounded pretty likely since its a free game :(
no Imperial knowledge they must have a location set for the elder scrolls blades for sure so plz make a video about it and even if they dont show us the location to where it is and when it takes place which i think is unlikely try to search about it and make a video.
Damn, I have to study and you publish a new video. In the exam, I'll be more fucked up than an argonian in Windhelm
Just tell them you are accepted in the Zork University
xd
Plot twist:
Ulfric uses the call dragon shout and wins the great war
*for 5 minutes
if thalmor never had the orb, this might have happened (except hammerfell)
FOR THE GLORY OF THE EMPIRE AND THE EMPEROR!!!!!
All hail the empire
All HAIL TRUMP! THE TRUE EMPEROR OF TAMREAL!
MAKE THE EMPIRE GREAT AGAIN!
Frist Name Last Name Keep that trump buffon away from the glorious Empire, thanks. The Empire of Tamriel is a place were any race is welcomed. There are no walls under the Ruby Throne
No all hail the stormcloaks Skyrim belongs to the Nords
@@Twilight24682 Skyrim belongs to the Thalmor.
Imperial knowledge is a moth priest
It will just…be well “the war”
What if a few of the Blades survived faking their deaths then Informed the Empire of the Dominion's plan. So The Empire struck first before the Dominion.
Maybe, but the Empire was simply not prepared for War. Plue, the Dominion would probably have speed up the war. Once they known that the Blades have there plans. It would have lead to a much bloodier War, as the Great War, was the Dominion taking the Empire by surprise.
Even, if the Blades somehow escaped the Dominion, and did worn the Emperor, would would just speed up the War, instead of allowing the Elves to go throw with there plans.
@@fristnamelastname5549 The point is the Dominion doesn't know the agents managed to fake their deaths and escape, so The Empire has the chance to catch the Dominion by surprise.
Thinking on it, the only chance the Empire had of an early victory would have been if the Empire had had one, or even better, two months notice of the impending invasion.
Yeah, i just mainly skipped the whole win explanation and tried to just conclude, they win.
It poses too many strategic speculation to ask how they could have won
@@ImperialKnowledge I was happy to work on scenarios and should you wish to add to it, give me some advanced notice and I'll see what I can slam together.
Cool!
@@ImperialKnowledge the more time the better but I'll do what I can.
no orb of vaermina = easy imperial victory. even with a surprise attack, without the knowledge of the outcome of every future battle, and how to alter it to best suit the dominion, the dominion's forces would lack numbers and the open-battle mastery of the empire, and would be defeated, be it swiftly or eventually.
I was gping to ask what would happen if the dragon born came back earlier around the time of the great war? But then i had another leading thought what would the empire in cyrodyl think when they hear reports of the dragon born and alduin and whatever side the dragon born picked in the civil war? Plus the DB quest line and then you have to wonder about beyond skyrim because they have an argonian talk to you in a bath house about the state of the empire and at this point you have provable dragon blood there may be no emporer on the throne (depending on DB quest) and that would ultimatly give your pc the best right to the ruby throne would it not? What kind of chaos would that put the empire in would it help or hurt more espeically witg the thamor conflict
What if the Frist Nordic Empire never fell?
I noticed that Hammerfel had extra 5 years and multitudes of victories.
Now I'm imagining the combined economies of the 4 human nations and the recruitment of peoples from High Rock and Skyrim that weren't being fully used.
If Hammerfel can win that 5 year war, and likely a bunch of skirmishes in the aftermath, with added bonus of imperial coin and Imperial recruited Breton armies likely entering Hammerfel.
And more Nordic armies entering into war, they could hold on.
If they could draw for 30 years they could avoid civil war and allocate the resources. Since Skyrim isn't dead.
I don't think the war will last 30 years of course.
And I can greatly imagine if the Dovahkiin got involved anything could happen.
Unfortunately I don't know shit or small butterfly affect factors that can do on so I don't know anything.
If one was willing to sacrifice half of the human races to take out the smaller Dominion populations I would take that sacrifice for the long run.
It's just unfortunate the war in Tamriel didn't result into the extermination of the Altmer, Bosmer and Khajiit.
Hammerfel would still be screwed though of course.
And everyone lived HAPPILY EVER AFTER !!
Would alduin still appear and would there still be a dragonborn
Imperial battle mages invent thermonuclear weapons
Bold of you to assume that chad Empire didn’t just let them win...
one problem I have with these scenarios is that it makes it seem like the control of information in such an -Kind of medieval-like- era is something that would be difficult for a state to do. Also such a massive nation as the Dominion which seems to have a higher standard of living and most likely a fairly dense population because of that, it is likely that the Dominion could quickly raise new troops this wasn't a war on the scale of ww1 so man-power shortages aren't likely an issue and the main territory of the Dominion are islands which makes them very easy to defend and means they can commit far more forces to attack than the Empire can in most casses
Except the fact that the High Elf population generally is far too low to even compare to Cyrodill's. The Empire would in every case outnumber the Aldmeri forces. If they drafted Bosmer, they'd find themselves riding on the back of steep unrest in Valenwood. They wouldn't risk a second war behind their lines, especially one that they would almost certainly lose.
@@khaganofturanistan8753 yes the aldmeri would easily be outnumbered however the Aldmeri have a higher percentage of mages which are similar to musketeers in late medieval times in that the placement of them can decide a battle and while the Aldmeri population and birth rate is lower, it is not such that a war like this would strip it of all its man-power
Comparing an Aldmeri mage to a Musketeer is not accurate. Yes, Aldmeri Mages are in far greater supply than Imperial, however, that does not mean that they would win an open-field engagement. The Empire is canonically known to be masters at that specific form of warfare, which is why the Thalmor used the Orb of Vaermina in Cyrodill, instead of High Rock, where the land was far more suited for an Imperial Victory given the circumstances that almost every battle would take place. Thalmor Mages would be likely spread extremely thin, with only about 20-40 per army (A small number considering the scale of the conflict) where they would not be able to make a decisive difference. An Army is only as good as its tactics, not its firepower, in such an open-field engagement, and the Aldmer would not win a battle simply because they have more mages. And, lets say they're filling the role of a late medieval "Musketeer". Musketeers did not exist in the Medieval Period, instead, Arquebuses and Hand Cannons are the proper firearms. They are renouned for doing more morale damage instead of physical damage, which is why late medieval warfare was still judged by the common soldier, rather than the Arquebusier. A common situation could be applied to engagements between the two armies. An Imperial Army with a numbers advantage of around 2-3x, sometimes even reaching as high as 5 or 6 times that of the Aldmer army would be able to effectively fight against a smaller force where their mages aren't being efficiently. In the Elder Scrolls especially, Mages are meant for more medium-rage style combat, with most magic at long range being inaccurate or ineffective. A Thalmor Wizard filling the shoes of an Arquebusier would quickly find himself useless, and prone to cavalry flank attacks. The same applies to a frontline Thalmor Wizard, who would be protected by a moderate amount of the army's forces, being a key person in the battle, thus drawing more forces away from the flanks and allowing for encircling. Using mages in any way to clutch a battle with such circumstances that'd be present is a terrible idea unless you're willing to whip every mage in Alinor.
@@khaganofturanistan8753 how large is an army in this sense because I doubt that out of 100,000-80,000 that there are only 40 battle mages probably more like 2-4,000 and when I called them "musketeers" I should have just said that the deployment of them in a battle could be decisive since there are explosive spells and so on and I'm not saying that they should be placed by themselves in a large section and as Alinor has been part of the empire for some time it is likely that they have somewhat similar tactics and its clear that the Altmer aren't terrible at warfare as they managed to push there way deep into Cyrodill and my main point was that the Altmer are even now(and had they been defeated in the war) probably very capable of repelling an invasion especially of there homeland as they would understand the need for a powerful navy more so than the Empire being an island nation
The Altmer aren't terrible at war, no, but they didn't just "Push their way deep into Cyrodill". They utilised the Eye of Vaermina to predict every future battle in the war, how to alter it, and every move the Empire would make during said battle. Almost every victory they made was clutched by the Orb, in most cases their forces were badly outnumbered around 5-1, and in some cases 10-1. No, the Altmer do not have similar tactics to the Empire. Even though Alinor was in the Empire, it does not mean military tactics, especially ones made by man, would be adopted by the Altmer. This can be seen in places such as High Rock and Hammerfell, where they still rely on their traditional style of warfare even under Imperial control. Yes, the Altmer could, no, WOULD repell an invasion of Alinor, but taking Valenwood would cripple the Dominion enough for them to be forced to surrender. The Dominion is in no shape to take out the entire Imperial Navy in this scenario with just Alinor, as it gives the Empire a single target to put all their fleets towards, and Alinor would most likely fall under a heavy blockade and/or bombardment. No, the Altmer navy isn't stronger than the Empire's, the Empire actually has a fleet around 7-8x that of the Dominion's at the start of the first war. The only reason the Dominion dominated navally was because of the Imperial Fleet's Disorganisation, with various elements posted around the continent while the Dominion's navy was mainly, and only, in Alinor and Valenwood, a small area in comparison. No, there are not 2,000-4,000 battlemages. Yes, the Altmer are very attuned to magic, but no, they cannot pump out wizards like rabbits pump out babies. If that were the case, every mage would be an Altmer. Battlemages were not a common commodity. The Empire actually generally had more battlemages at the start of the war due to them controlling both High Rock and the Arcane College, though Imperial Mages weren't as superior as Altmer ones. Also, an Altmer Army would NEVER reach 80,000, even during the first great war, such numbers were never seen. The Altmer have, and have always had, a relatively small population. High Elves are selective breeders, they only breed once every few decades or so, while a human family can pump out far more. Explosive spells exist in, in a way, but are by no means powerful enough to sway the tide of a battle, and can drain the user's magicka for an extended period of time. Neither effective nor efficient.
I got an idea.
What if the Orcs won the Siege of Orsinium?
They would play a bigger role internationally
What if mehrunes dagon "won" the oblivion crisis
The Psijics would have fixed it with massive helpings of mcguffins and intrepid adventurers they solicited.
"Cody please don't sue me"
What????
hes referring to cody from alternatehistoryhub
@@grandmasteryoda6717 oh
Morrowind would be fucked as they would then try to enforce deadra worship ban in morrowind and if we refused they would retake morrowind and just kill us
I don't know why people give The Empire and Emperor crap over pursuing peace at the time that was the most logical and viable option they had at the time.
I'm sure that Titus Mede 2 had a very extensive plan, one that all other High Kings were privy to, that would completely crush the Thalmor; however one man kept throwing wrinkles in his plan: Ulfric Stormcloak. First, the Markarth Incident allowed the Thalmor to have a presence in Skyrim; then Ulfric kills Torygg after winning a duel, and the whole rebellion became a waste of resources and lives
@@kildawg That's why The Stormcloaks are wrong like General Tullias said "You are just giving The Thalmor what they want"
The Stormcloaks winning isn't what the Thalmor want. Yes, the Empire is a small percentage weaker, but with exceedingly loyal territories in High Rock and Cyrodill, the Empire would remain able to fight. Even with Cryodill alone, the Empire would win a second war. The Thalmor only won the first due to magical artifact bumfuckery and strategy. They lost a lot of men, and the Thalmor and the High Elves in general are selective breeders, meaning it takes an extensive period of time for population to replenish in comparison to Humans. If Cyrodill hasn't fully recovered by Skyrim, which it hadn't, then the Dominion would certainly be way further behind. The Thalmor wanted a long, drawn out civil war in Skyrim, with no actual consideration to who was victorious. They wished for the Empire to draw legions away to fight in Skyrim, and wished for the Empire's forces to take some amount of moderate-heavy casualties in the fighting so that the Thalmor could have somewhat of an edge in the next war. Considering what happens ingame, which are relatively tiny battles for forts and two for Major Cities, casualties were basically minimal for dedicated Imperial Forces. Dont forget that instead of sending a Legion, they gave farmboys weapons, and gave the farmboys to Tullius. They knew he could pull it off with farmboys, thus negating any reason to bring in a Legion. Tullius saying its what they want is just him eluding that a Legion would come, which is actually canon that there is a Legion waiting at the other side of Pale Pass for the road to be cleared, and give the Thalmor the casualties they desire.
Yes, yes just because of a raging "warlord" he gives up one of the Empire's strongest province, bans the worship of the God of MAN and surrenders to conditions set before the war... while he was on the offensive... and WINNING. Yeah, I don't see why wouldn't people bitching about this.
tbh cyrodill's probably more divided socially than skyrim. they suffered greatly in the war only for their emperor to give up on the cusp of victory.
do the Thalmor had any weakness
That would be easy. Short of manpower for example.
In real life some countries in war half short names, like jappo, sinno, Russo, Franco, or Anglo.
Maby Cyrodiil could be Cyro
If we go further, maby Argo for Argonia and Valo for Valenwood and so on
*IF*
What if there was a dragon break on the next great war and both sides won on alternate realities?
Eduardo Vieira I'm not sure about this but since the Thalmor goal is to destroy existance, shouldn't a dragon break be impossible? A dragon break makes every possible ending happen in different ways, but if you end the world there are no basis for any ending
Personally when it comes to the The Empire winning the Great War, the only scenario I can think and commit to a TH-cam comment would be this:
1. The Empire and Penetus Octulotus discover the existence of the Orb of Vaermina and are able to seize/destroy it before the Cyrodiillic front is able to get as dire as it got.
2. Without the Orb in Dominion hands the Empire devotes most of its resources to crushing the Cyrodiil front, recapture Bravil and Leyawiin then prepare to move on Hammerfell.
3. (Assuming the Dominion Army catches wind of the defeat in Cyrodiil) The Dominion begins to pull back toward the coast to lessen the risk of being enveloped but only makes it to the Hammerfell/Cyrodiil border before being forced to fight, the battle itself I think would be closer to "Pyrrhic" than the Empire would like since at least half would've been force marched to catch the Dominion army before it could slip away. After the battle (Battle of the Gold Coast for sake of argument) the Imperials quickly recapture Anvil and then take time to rest.
4. (Assuming the Imperials are exhausted from the battles the fought with the Hammerfell invasion force and retaking of Anvil) The Empire (again) takes some time to rest and recuperate as they repair the southern defenses.
5. While the repairs of Cyrodiils defenses are under way, the Emperor buys time with seeking out talks with the Thalmor, (assuming he is able to buy at least a few months) The Imperials prepare an invasion of Valenwood and send agents to try and recruit Bosmer to act as scouts and guides for the Imperials, maybe also agitate dissidents against the Thalmor to tie their resources down as well with the Thalmor in a weakened state.
6. (Assuming even minimal requirements for a Valenwood invasion are met) The Imperials invade Valenwood and are able to capture the most Imperial loyal parts but get pushed back from further invasion.
7. With the Invasion of Valenwood ground to a halt and Cyrodiil has serviceable defenses, Titus Mede II then decides to make peace with the Dominion and gets a lot of bargaining room. His treaty grants the Empire war reparations, valenwoods northern most province, the release of Imperial prisoners, Dominion prisoners only released at ransom and annual tribute to the Empire.
This is my scenario and obviously there's probably holes but this is a summary of my thoughts.
makes zero sense -
What do the dominion want in hammerfell? Some kinda dwemer tech or research? I believe there's dwemer ruins in hammerfell and that's all i could think of that they would find valuable. Yeah it's probably tactical, requesting something they knew would split hammerfell from the empire but it seems suspicious
Some tower or the guy who steals sweet rolls
Alternate timeline videos are essentially "I make stuff up"
If it were actually in a future game I'd be interested
I hope you are still doing good bro. Maybe hopefully 6 will come out in the next 20 years or hopefully sooner so you can keep doing great work
Cody please dont sue me hahahaha
Cool
where are those shots of cyrodill and the empire troops are from? the drawings in the first couple mins
TES legends, I converted them from the gamefiles for videos
What if Martin Septim did not sacrifice him himself?
Mehrunes Dagon would have overrun Tamriel and Nirn or if you refer that they light the Dragon Fires in time. Martin would become emperor and we wouldn't be in the deep shit we are in the events of the fourth era.
What if Divayth Fyr helped the empire in the great war? That could have made them win.
why would he help morrowind is in ruin and hes a deadra worshiper the empire have fully banned deadra worship now no longer looking the other way
+CommanderM117 Idk it was just a thought.
+CommanderM117
Incorrect once again.
Daedra worship is not banned in the Empire. Just look at the Orsimer.
read Modern Heretics then was it stated it not legal yet public would have them hanged and court have to enforces public safety over people that are not so useful and the mages guild was the only thing holding the deadra worshiper safe in empire land there gone now so it back to mob rule
as for orsimer the imperials will just lie and say it trinnimac they worship witch technically they do if the person accused of deadra worship does not take part in lie there screwed
+The Forgotten Hero I think they only banned worshipping Molag Bal and Mehrunes Dagon.
The Good Ending
Skyrim would have been a better game
Well idk no civil war. I like the civil war although it should have been made much better
@@ivanf.482 I felt that while Ulfric was cool it would've been cooler to fight the church of Ysmir or the old nord Pantheon
problem is Bethesda was so lazy with Nordic culture that it felt like two Imperial factions we're fighting each other
@@Doralga I just hope in the next game imperial victory will be canon and Tullius becomes emperor
imperials get off to this video
Gonna be honest here: any fair fight between Elves and Men will be a complete victory for the Elves. The Elves are simply too OP, as they live for hundreds of years and are inherently magical.
That's their flaw. See, Humans have much shorter lifespans and breed in greater numbers. What I am saying is, a Humans ambition and potential legacy with a shorter lifespan goes further as they have more to prove in such a short time. Humans learn much quicker in terms of survival and combat aswel. It's a natural instinct for survival. Beings that tend to live longer, normally take things slower.
Mmmmmm
Such horrible bad video with arrogance in it
your own opinion does not matter kid
Make this idea in your head
by the end of the battle of the imperial city both forces were rather depleted, the imperials did infact conquer it back
now just lead a slow war from there south
Proto European Historian he literally said it was just a theory video for fun, you came in the comments calling him "kid" and YOU talk about arrogance?
so right