My 14 year old son has been trying to learn a breaking pitch and he tried curveball and slider and couldnt get the desire break last week we were playing catch and i suggested to him to try a slurve grip and he got an awesome break from the very first few pitches he tried. now we ve been practicing that pitch for about a week and he’s totally loving how it breaks!!!!! 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
I use to pitch a slurve in high school 20 years ago. Biggest break I ever remember was the ball went from the shoulder of a right handed batter standing in the middle of the batters box and landed in the dirt exactly where a left handed batter standing in the middle of the box would have stood.
ive been doing some reading and studying on the exact purpose of different pitches and variations of one pitch or the other, and ive come to realize that pitching is a lot like boxing in that you throw your hardest pitches to knock the batter out (as in strikeout) and your throw offspeed and breaking balls to disrupt the timing or get them to put their guard, so to speak, in the wrong place at the wrong time
I used to throw a 4-seam fastball, a circle-change, and a slurve since I was 10 and if I was getting into a rut with two outs. I would toss a change, fastball, then kill the batter with a nasty slurve that would break from the top right, to the bottom left. My coach told me not to throw it or if I did, don't snap it. But I snapped my wrist and I never had any problems other maybe being a little sore. The soreness was probobly a result of just pitching alot.
Love the video...I think the “snap” (which I also disagree with that description of throwing your curveball). I always have described my 12-6 curve as pulling the light bulb string down (but never snapping the wrist over with intentional down force). I also only used a 4 seam when running up and inner half of the batter. I used to utilize multiple arm slot variations for my main 3 pitches (2-seam/sinker; curveball, circle change) but never used a varying arm slot for my screwball. In addition to arm slots variations, I also played with finger pressure for the same pitches described above. I never made it past college level, so, as a former pro how do you view variations of arm slot, finger pressure to give greater effect to pitches, while also maintaining the appearance of similar delivery so that the batter is not tipped off?
Jonathan Morales I did like to use slightly different arm slots on different pitches but never got into altering grip pressure. It just didn’t feel right to me but I knew many guys who did. I don’t think hitters were able to pick up the slight difference in arm slot. Maybe they did, I just never noticed it.
YouGoProBaseball I love the quick reply. I guess I used grip pressure to help my control. As a lefty, I also had a lot of “tail” on my pitches so I would use grip pressure to maintain the Mariano Rivera cutter action on an inside fastball so the ball wouldn’t drift back over the middle of the plate into the sweet spot by accident. I found the pressure allowed the fastball to have slight horizontal movement to remove the ball from the hitter’s intended sweet spot as he is sweeping that particular plane he has already committed to. Also liked your 4 pitches video because I toyed with the Forkball after MLB lefty Chuck McElroy taught it to me but I always felt I could never achieve the dance, (despite achieving no rotation) due to my hand size being smaller than I felt required for that pitch. Also love that you mention the art of rolling on the two seamer because most pros never mention that when discussing the two seamer/sinker but the more pronation you can achieve the greater the vertical movement becomes against the batter. Keep up the videos! In my opinion they are invaluable techniques most pitchers never share (either due to inability to convey their skill sets to others; or coveting their secrets because of desire to extend their own job longevity (which I can appreciate)).
Thx you gave me some more tips for throwing a slurve ball I already threw it naturally and you gave me more pointers making in even more devastating, cant wait till my next start and use my upgraded slurve
Hello, when i try to pitch the slurve i keep on pitching the baseball to the right side of the box since i am a RHP, what can i do to stop making it go to the right side? Thanks.
I’m a sophomore in college (summer of freshman year), had tommy John my end of my senior yeah in may, missed freshman year, and I threw like 87-89 (never got 90) and threw a knuckle slurve (I tried to throw a curveball but it would just end up coming like a slider, but it would break like a slurve if that makes sense) but I have been trying my damndest to throw it again and I just can’t do it again, it’s just not coming back, it’s been 2 months since I was released to throw breaking balls so not having my wipe out pitch is really killing me
In conclusion, I pray this video helps me. My velo has also been down (like a few mph from what I was) but I think that’s because I didn’t do a ton of lifting but I’m getting back into it and it’s jumping back up. Anyway thanks for coming to my Ted talk
Hey John! I have a question about the Personal Pitcher Pro on your website. I have about 15 feet in my garage that I would be able to set it at to hit, will the curveballs and sliders still break in 15 feet enough for me to get work in? Thanks!
Correct.. you don't HAVE to snap the wrist.. wrist position, angle, velo and release point... You can snap your wrist but usually when someone does they start to lose control or injuring themselves... After you evolve you can gain the feel. #FEEL
I usually only used 2 to 3 pitches during a game and was pretty successful until I hurt my shoulder. I threw a nasty knuckleball a cutter and a slurve.
It looks to me like you are holding the ball in your right hand. I like the idea of you talking about the clock but I would like to know how you go from 11 to 5 and 10 to 4 as a right handed pitcher.
Mr Madden to a Smart hitter that has watched you over and over again to various games from college to the pros and possibly High School do you think that the different change up and curves like a clock, like a 12-6 change up,the slurve and everything else just by the position of your arm is going to give that pitch away and you really saying come on and try to hit it. Lewiston, Idaho. Was nice talking to you too.
He threw a fastball,slider,and splitter. (Thank you for the video). Hey the tryouts are about to come do you or can you make more videos for that topic thanks.
I used to throw this and people would look at me like why did it drop so instantly going into the zone and i never knew why butnow i know need to me throw it a little higher for better results
I threw all kinds of junk 🙃 🤣 I didn't throw hard 75-80 mph on my fastball. I'd throw a 12-6 , Circle change , 2 seam fb and slow curve that broke horizontal. My Circle change was real good it had little spin and broke funky like a knuckeball left handers would tell me it was nice
Let me question something do you know where you will go after you die? If not let me say you can have a choice to either go to hell or heaven see 2000 years ago there was this man named Jesus who died on the cross for our sins and rose alive 3 days later all because he truly loved us he died for us so I question you now do you truly believe in Jesus or do you live for the world turn to Jesus Christ trust in him Christ has way much more to give than the world he loves us turn to Christ!
My 14 year old son has been trying to learn a breaking pitch and he tried curveball and slider and couldnt get the desire break last week we were playing catch and i suggested to him to try a slurve grip and he got an awesome break from the very first few pitches he tried. now we ve been practicing that pitch for about a week and he’s totally loving how it breaks!!!!! 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
I made it to a college team as a LHP for Ucla so thanks
Congrats dude
@@codywilliams8365wait that’s a woman 🤔
I use to pitch a slurve in high school 20 years ago. Biggest break I ever remember was the ball went from the shoulder of a right handed batter standing in the middle of the batters box and landed in the dirt exactly where a left handed batter standing in the middle of the box would have stood.
I think the person who swings the most on an 0-0 pitch is Jose Altuve
and he mvp
Obviously caused he’s up in the box when he knows a curve coming in game 6 of the alds
You stupid
JAB guy
@@YouGoPro and he cheated lol
My favorite pitch behind a two seam!
Thank you i needed this my 10th strike out was from all the pitches you habe been showing us yiu are the best! ❤️
Slider and slurve and sinker and circle changeup my best in my arsenal slider and slurve most effective because I am submarine pitcher
ive been doing some reading and studying on the exact purpose of different pitches and variations of one pitch or the other, and ive come to realize that pitching is a lot like boxing in that you throw your hardest pitches to knock the batter out (as in strikeout) and your throw offspeed and breaking balls to disrupt the timing or get them to put their guard, so to speak, in the wrong place at the wrong time
I used to throw a 4-seam fastball, a circle-change, and a slurve since I was 10 and if I was getting into a rut with two outs. I would toss a change, fastball, then kill the batter with a nasty slurve that would break from the top right, to the bottom left. My coach told me not to throw it or if I did, don't snap it. But I snapped my wrist and I never had any problems other maybe being a little sore. The soreness was probobly a result of just pitching alot.
I call a slurve my slider as well. It was my strikeout pitch. My friend Billy taught me how to throw it in Senior Little League.
Is this pitch good for sidearm pitchers
No
Hey John I have a specific question. What’s the best way to throw a slurve with more slider action while still maintaining a good amount of break?
Hi coach Madden! I am 12 and I play travel ball i pitched the best team in our division, and i got 5 ks of of the slurve that you taught me. Thank you
im 14 and its cool how you're able to do that. you should keep it going if you are looking to play high school ball
@@emiliomartinez2962 Thanks i will and i hope you do to!!
I have a 4-seam, 2-seam, knuckle-curve, change-up, and a slider. I've been working on the slurve.
Include a cutter!
This video was very helpful in figuring out what pitch I was throwing. Thanks, yo!
Love the video...I think the “snap” (which I also disagree with that description of throwing your curveball). I always have described my 12-6 curve as pulling the light bulb string down (but never snapping the wrist over with intentional down force). I also only used a 4 seam when running up and inner half of the batter.
I used to utilize multiple arm slot variations for my main 3 pitches (2-seam/sinker; curveball, circle change) but never used a varying arm slot for my screwball.
In addition to arm slots variations, I also played with finger pressure for the same pitches described above.
I never made it past college level, so, as a former pro how do you view variations of arm slot, finger pressure to give greater effect to pitches, while also maintaining the appearance of similar delivery so that the batter is not tipped off?
Jonathan Morales I did like to use slightly different arm slots on different pitches but never got into altering grip pressure. It just didn’t feel right to me but I knew many guys who did. I don’t think hitters were able to pick up the slight difference in arm slot. Maybe they did, I just never noticed it.
YouGoProBaseball I love the quick reply. I guess I used grip pressure to help my control. As a lefty, I also had a lot of “tail” on my pitches so I would use grip pressure to maintain the Mariano Rivera cutter action on an inside fastball so the ball wouldn’t drift back over the middle of the plate into the sweet spot by accident. I found the pressure allowed the fastball to have slight horizontal movement to remove the ball from the hitter’s intended sweet spot as he is sweeping that particular plane he has already committed to.
Also liked your 4 pitches video because I toyed with the Forkball after MLB lefty Chuck McElroy taught it to me but I always felt I could never achieve the dance, (despite achieving no rotation) due to my hand size being smaller than I felt required for that pitch.
Also love that you mention the art of rolling on the two seamer because most pros never mention that when discussing the two seamer/sinker but the more pronation you can achieve the greater the vertical movement becomes against the batter.
Keep up the videos! In my opinion they are invaluable techniques most pitchers never share (either due to inability to convey their skill sets to others; or coveting their secrets because of desire to extend their own job longevity (which I can appreciate)).
Um this isnt writing class
Thx you gave me some more tips for throwing a slurve ball I already threw it naturally and you gave me more pointers making in even more devastating, cant wait till my next start and use my upgraded slurve
4 seam fastball knuckle ball screwball 12 6 curveball slurve slider
Hello, when i try to pitch the slurve i keep on pitching the baseball to the right side of the box since i am a RHP, what can i do to stop making it go to the right side? Thanks.
I’m a sophomore in college (summer of freshman year), had tommy John my end of my senior yeah in may, missed freshman year, and I threw like 87-89 (never got 90) and threw a knuckle slurve (I tried to throw a curveball but it would just end up coming like a slider, but it would break like a slurve if that makes sense) but I have been trying my damndest to throw it again and I just can’t do it again, it’s just not coming back, it’s been 2 months since I was released to throw breaking balls so not having my wipe out pitch is really killing me
In conclusion, I pray this video helps me. My velo has also been down (like a few mph from what I was) but I think that’s because I didn’t do a ton of lifting but I’m getting back into it and it’s jumping back up. Anyway thanks for coming to my Ted talk
Thank you coach, trying to help my team as new pitcher, I'm sure it will help if I can do this one 👍
4seam, 2seam ,Curveball, Sinker and working on the slurve(which i found a bit diffucult)
Hey John! I have a question about the Personal Pitcher Pro on your website. I have about 15 feet in my garage that I would be able to set it at to hit, will the curveballs and sliders still break in 15 feet enough for me to get work in? Thanks!
Yeh, that would probably work. It doesn't have to be too far.
John .... My daughter is 12. Can you do another video of batting mechanics
Top spinn extravaganza. Hell's yeah..
Fourseam Fastball ,Slider,Splitter
Furuya kun
Efren Cajurao wait you’ve seen ace of diamond
Jacob Peters
Sawamura my boi
Correct.. you don't HAVE to snap the wrist.. wrist position, angle, velo and release point... You can snap your wrist but usually when someone does they start to lose control or injuring themselves... After you evolve you can gain the feel. #FEEL
I throw the exact same pitch it is really effective if you can mix it with a 12-6
nice!
I need to learn ho to throw the 12-6 curveball and the sinker
I've got some videos on those..
12-6 think of a clock its how I throw it... Make sure your arm falls off the table
I know how to throw that pitch. It’s a really easy pitch to learn and throw. It doesn’t hurt my arm when I throw it
My only pitches are the slurve, and a deadly cutting 2 seam fastball
2seam 4seam slider 12 6 curve slider circle change changeup
Love this pitch
Can a slurve be my primary pitch?
I usually only used 2 to 3 pitches during a game and was pretty successful until I hurt my shoulder. I threw a nasty knuckleball a cutter and a slurve.
It looks to me like you are holding the ball in your right hand. I like the idea of you talking about the clock but I would like to know how you go from 11 to 5 and 10 to 4 as a right handed pitcher.
Mr Madden to a Smart hitter that has watched you over and over again to various games from college to the pros and possibly High School do you think that the different change up and curves like a clock, like a 12-6 change up,the slurve and everything else just by the position of your arm is going to give that pitch away and you really saying come on and try to hit it. Lewiston, Idaho. Was nice talking to you too.
I'm not really talking about the position of the arm, but more the movement of the pitch.
This video is helpful! I love it.
He threw a fastball,slider,and splitter. (Thank you for the video). Hey the tryouts are about to come do you or can you make more videos for that topic thanks.
yep already on it my man!
Thanks again.😊
I can throw a: circle-change, a slow hooker, 4 seam, two seam, sinker. Thanks!
4sfb (I throw mid 80s and I'm a power pitcher because it's my main pitch circle change, screw ball, (crappy before this) slurve
great vid coach
thank you sir
can you post a video on how to put on an allstar lace on wrist guard?
sure send me one lol
Can you pitch gyroball
So I throw a slow slow Slurve and a Sweeper. My teammates hate doing live AB’s with me
Your awesome dude😎👍
Fastball, slider, spliter
Yo what is a splitter??
Miles Roberts split finger fastball
4seam,2seam,change up,circle change,12-6 curve,slider,slurve,cutter
4-seam fastball , Cutter, (and Now) Slurve
Elbow? Is that what Hurt Kerry woods?
And have my own way of slurve
4-seam,Shoot,Circle change up,Curve
I used to throw this and people would look at me like why did it drop so instantly going into the zone and i never knew why butnow i know need to me throw it a little higher for better results
Do you know Shane diarmit
He threw a fastball and slider and one of his problems was that he only had 2 pitches so he added a splitter
Slurve is very effective leaves them swinging out their cleats
Yeah it’s duscustingly nasty
Four seam fastball, slider, splitter
Fastball, splitter and slider
4 seam, cutter, circle change.
4 seem, 2seem, change, slider, 12-6 curve.
my 100 year old broke his back throwing this ball yesterday 😣
4 seam 2seam curve slider changeup
Good arsenal, could add a cutter
Changeup is the most important pitch in baseball
Fastball, change up, slider, curve
Rising slider
Yes!
Fastball, split, slider
cool
The only time I throw a breaking ball is 0-1, 0-2 or 1-2
Wazzup
i don't snap my wrist on anything not even curve
I can throw everything
But can you throw any good
Yeah sure
Eephus knuckle ball riser?
I just threw a slurve and didn’t know exactly how I did it
I over threw the slider and my arm used to hurt but it feels better now
that's good that it feels better. maybe you shouldn't throw it anymore
Coach Madden is hookin yall up with the xmas special $75 for hella programs. Jump on that deal while u still can! Great vids
My man!
Thanks bro i can pitch in 1minute now hahahaha
Hi
I dislocated my elbow a few years ago so I can’t throw that many pitches
I got DESTROYED by a slurve I n my game last weekend and ever since I've been dedicated to get a nice slurve
I threw all kinds of junk 🙃 🤣 I didn't throw hard 75-80 mph on my fastball. I'd throw a 12-6 , Circle change , 2 seam fb and slow curve that broke horizontal. My Circle change was real good it had little spin and broke funky like a knuckeball left handers would tell me it was nice
If a kid only throws 45 will a slurve work? 😀
Gyroball
Create a new pitch!🎉
So rn Julio Urias has best Slurveball
I throw 2 curves every inning
Not good. It should be based on the situation and what your catcher calls
people say my curveball is a slurve
I got it and im 10
222 k subscribers
All I do is a Slurve
84 people dont wanna throw a slurve
Fastball, Slider, Spliter
ACCEPT JESUS AS YOUR LORD AND SAVIOR
Steve delabar what a bum who puts a one and done relief pitcher on there wall
First
You win!
Let me question something do you know where you will go after you die? If not let me say you can have a choice to either go to hell or heaven see 2000 years ago there was this man named Jesus who died on the cross for our sins and rose alive 3 days later all because he truly loved us he died for us so I question you now do you truly believe in Jesus or do you live for the world turn to Jesus Christ trust in him Christ has way much more to give than the world he loves us turn to Christ!
Ggg
Hi yo thanks
Hi yo you're welcome
Fastball,slider,splitter
cool