Why Ferrari may have a "Driver Problem" for the rest of 2024

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  • @TommoMcCluskey
    @TommoMcCluskey  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +76

    If both drivers were really told to "save the softs" at the start, do you consider Carlos to have disobeyed team orders by making that overtake?

    • @jayantchatterji3262
      @jayantchatterji3262 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

      Yes because it was his home race and his emotions got the better of him there I think.

    • @gameofender4463
      @gameofender4463 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I think he might’ve seen a chance to gain ground quickly at his home race after George took the lead.

    • @michaelfierman3256
      @michaelfierman3256 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      YES. ( !)

    • @nathanb286
      @nathanb286 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      Well him overtaking and using up more tyres ended up being the reason why he was forced onto the Russell strategy, so he kinda ruined his own race anyway

    • @IGG2002
      @IGG2002 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      NO, because Ferrari are SABOTAGING Carlos.

  • @thebateman761
    @thebateman761 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +476

    Almost didn't even recognise the channel due to the thumbnail

    • @Limegreenedragon
      @Limegreenedragon 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      It was in the font used for Street Fighter II, so that's probably why

    • @TommoMcCluskey
      @TommoMcCluskey  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +107

      Trying something different. FIGHT.

    • @vivekmohan4271
      @vivekmohan4271 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      ​@@TommoMcCluskey 10/10 thumbnail

    • @Real28
      @Real28 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@TommoMcCluskey yeah I actually love it. But I'm an 80s kid so pixel art and me go WAY back.

    • @kp-rv3ui
      @kp-rv3ui 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Too little pink Tommo mate​@@TommoMcCluskey

  • @mikasr.5
    @mikasr.5 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +48

    Ironic considering sainz has been the one complaining about other drivers all season

    • @TommoMcCluskey
      @TommoMcCluskey  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Smooth customer service operator

  • @RashidHasanRafi-ru7fn
    @RashidHasanRafi-ru7fn 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    9:26 underlying frustration.
    He is getting dropped from Ferrari while driving very well, and is not going to get a top seat next year.
    You can definitely see where that comes from

    • @Mishybells
      @Mishybells 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Than he should’ve taken the offer Ferrari had on table for him 1+1 but he wanted the same offer that Charles was given, also during Monza 23 Sr was yapping to all media journalists bout Jr to Audi in 26. You play with Ferrari & you get burned. Now bud is searching for a team to drive for 25, & he was the ONLY driver available at the start of the season but no top team wanted him! Dunno why? 🤷🏻‍♀️

    • @Wickey934
      @Wickey934 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Is driving very well in a room with us?

    • @RashidHasanRafi-ru7fn
      @RashidHasanRafi-ru7fn 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Wickey934 dafqu you talking about?

    • @Wickey934
      @Wickey934 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@RashidHasanRafi-ru7fn You said Carlos is driving very well which isn't true at all

    • @RashidHasanRafi-ru7fn
      @RashidHasanRafi-ru7fn 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Wickey934 you think Carlos isn't driving well?

  • @James_the_Prince
    @James_the_Prince 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I think both guys have been really frustrated after the last couple of races , feels like they went from arguably the best car to 18 points in 2 races ... Yikes... Obviously from my pp.. I'm a Carlos fan but I'm not biased (unlike Tommo) he unnecessarily squeezed Charles and sometimes is ott.. but then Charles unnecessarily spoke out to the media and Carlos just reacted to that. End of day. They didn't crash... Leclerc finished ahead.. why does he need to say anything at all?
    It's all this drama Tommo I just love it 😁

  • @ash92344
    @ash92344 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Outside of the incident itself i think the way both drivers commented abt it to media wasn't a great for the team especially since their form has gone down a little since monaco. With Merc above them, it already wasn't a great weekend and their fight is like a cherry on top. Just makes it look like ferrari are having a meltdown after starting well for a 3rd season in a row.
    Especially carlos's comment was a little surprising since Charles is known for usually NOT saying anything bad abt the team, so maybe things are a lot different inside the team

  • @AudyBharksuwana
    @AudyBharksuwana 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Personally I want to see Carlos at Sauber(Audi) more than I want to see him at Williams, like 60:40. Mostly because of all the promotional stuff I can see them do with like (Saint+Audi)x2 with his dad.
    But I do like the idea of Alex + Carlos at Williams too.

  • @kirisaki.777
    @kirisaki.777 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    nah that sponsor transition was way too smooth💀

  • @LegoSnoopDogg
    @LegoSnoopDogg 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Carlos could become the third F1 driver to have been in Williams, Ferrari and McLaren, with Nigel Mansell and Alain Prost also having done this

  • @isakibrahim8316
    @isakibrahim8316 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Because Carlos knows it’s his last season and he wants to go out with a bang, love that leclerc called him out post race interview

  • @flamingburritto
    @flamingburritto 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Loving the thumbnail ngl. Never ditch the pinkish/salmon background tho. (ps: what exactly is that color called?)

  • @mnokov2554
    @mnokov2554 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    3:35 lommo moment

  • @fallenshallrise
    @fallenshallrise 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What you want when the car is the fast is 2 equally matched drivers, qualifying on the same row, finishing 1-2, but when the car is 4th best it's a "driver problem" apparently. A problem that Red Bull wish they had.
    By the way Charles and Carlos both need to STFU and drive and stop calling for team orders to give them a free pass with their own teammate. Charles is especially delusional if he thinks Hamilton is going to play the #2 and let him glide by whenever he thinks he's saving tires or whatever.

  • @lifestyleofadreamer
    @lifestyleofadreamer 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Vcarp split the strategy too ..

  • @jadj2309
    @jadj2309 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Damn this thumbnail is creative and cold

  • @tbz1551
    @tbz1551 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Many teams say they have a great driver pairing relationship...until they don't. McLaren has this problem in their future. Red Bull is fine ...lol Checo.

  • @selder_7
    @selder_7 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Sainz doesn’t know his place. That’s why Redbull and Merc don’t want him

  • @danielakinoshita
    @danielakinoshita 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ferrari should have held off announcing hamilton for a while

  • @sxuld
    @sxuld 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    one off? it happened many times with sainz calling his own shots independently

    • @nollienick1121
      @nollienick1121 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It’s called being smart. And not a lap dog

    • @sxuld
      @sxuld 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@nollienick1121 all the smarts in the world and still not faster than charles, sad really

    • @Wickey934
      @Wickey934 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@nollienick1121Being smart by destroing his tyres at the beginning of the race. No race knowledge, but what can I expect looking at your comments. Get a life, stop embarrassing yourself and turn tv on while watching troll

  • @joshualamp2438
    @joshualamp2438 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Carlos reacted that way because the interviewer baited him, if he had heard the full statement he likely would have brushed it off.

  • @swashbuckle3713
    @swashbuckle3713 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    At this point Charles becomes as insufferable as Max in his earlier years, just without any of the success.

  • @Real28
    @Real28 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If we think this is an issue, Hamilton does NOT get along with competiton.
    He didnt get along with Alonso whe he was with him at Mclaren and Alonso is quited as saying it got colder after they werent teammates.
    Hamilton and Rosberg - i dont need to explain this.
    I think Hamilton and Leclerc are going to clash because Lewis will want to give it a big push here in the twilight era of his career and Charles is very much in his prime and the un-announced leader of the team.
    So yeah...itll be spicy at Ferrari next year if we think this is spicy. This is just Carlos not taking everything laying down like he has in the past.

    • @maite16551
      @maite16551 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Actually I think, or hope, thank the pairing of Leclerc and Hamilton will work a whole lot better than Leclerc and Sainz. Hamilton has become a better teammate, said by himself and proven by his overall time with Russel. Yes, he might want to push in his last (few) seasons and so will Leclerc considering he's been on the brink of a wdc fight quite a few times. But they're both more often than not clean and level headed drivers. In addition to that, I think they'll get along on a personal level wayyy better than Leclerc and Carlos. And with Carlos Sainzs father "leaving", it's another irritating factor gone at Ferrari.

  • @mertcanhacfazloglu4862
    @mertcanhacfazloglu4862 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Replace Sainz before next race and problem solved imo

    • @nollienick1121
      @nollienick1121 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      This isn’t Red Bull. Just because your love Charles got his feelings hurt, doesn’t mean shit.

  • @MuhammadNiz007
    @MuhammadNiz007 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Tommo takes as usual without any soures, Charles moaned about Monza

  • @user-tr1hx7jx4r
    @user-tr1hx7jx4r 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +363

    Man I remember when Carlos was the greatest driver to ever live for about two weeks , the hype was crazy after he won in Australia 😂

    • @mexicanopdb
      @mexicanopdb 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Yep

    • @sevach
      @sevach 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +78

      "WHAT A HORRIBLE MISTAKE FERRARI MADE DROPPING SAINZ FOR WASHED HAMILTON"
      Seems like a lifetime ago.

    • @askeladden450
      @askeladden450 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +65

      @@user-tr1hx7jx4r "ferrari fired the wrong driver" it was honestly disgusting how carlos fans went after charles even though he had nothing to do with getting rid of carlos.

    • @TommoMcCluskey
      @TommoMcCluskey  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +92

      I mean tbh he's still very close to Charles. I know the quali H2H is pretty one sided, but the gaps have been marginal. He's still got a lot to offer, but Charles is, and always has been, the better driver IMO.

    • @askeladden450
      @askeladden450 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

      @@TommoMcCluskey carlos has always been super close to charles in qualis. But its the races where charles always has a big gap. Imola was 15s, monaco 9s (not really representarive as no one was pushing) and 8s in spain. This was the case in the past three years as well.

  • @aurionblackfyre8480
    @aurionblackfyre8480 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +47

    I think everyone is thinking way too hard on this

  • @sourensoukatsui
    @sourensoukatsui 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +53

    This team pairing has been imploding since 2022. Remember when Charles liked a tweet about how the 2023 car would be garbage because of what Sainz Sr. said that it would suit Carlos more compared to the 2022 car.
    Silverstone 2022, Charles refused to go to Maranello. Binotto literally went to Monaco just to calm him down. Even the public statements of Mekies favored Carlos. Now, all of them are gone.
    The politics within the team ruined any chance of harmony between the two.

    • @Wickey934
      @Wickey934 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      You couldn't say it better. Ferrari needs second driver with normal background but they don't know it yet

    • @arscasico
      @arscasico 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      oof... imagine when LH comes in then hahaha!
      CL never fooled me with his PR trained act but he hides it really well for the most part.

    • @AbsoleteAim
      @AbsoleteAim 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      ​@@arscasicoStrange how Charles gets criticized for being soft, but when he finally starts to show some give, people suddenly say it's 'too much', or that he's been doing some 'PR act'.

    • @mikasr.5
      @mikasr.5 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      sainz sr has been causing problems internally within teams since torro rosso days

  • @karina0160
    @karina0160 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +200

    sure leclerc's comments were maybe a bit unnecessary, but when he doesn't speak up for himself people think he's too soft or a pushover. sainz is a serial complainer so people think he is more headstrong. overall i respect your takes

    • @NewscasterNews4
      @NewscasterNews4 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +51

      It’s funny how everyone says that Charles doesn’t have a championship mentality because he’s “too nice and diplomatic”, then he finally stands up for himself and people think he “went too far.” It’s like he literally can’t win

    • @BlackDiamondYoutub
      @BlackDiamondYoutub 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

      ​@@NewscasterNews4 he can't. That's how it works with fast drivers. People will hate them for any minor flaw in personality, and if they can't they'll just hate them for being fast. Max and Ham suffered the same

    • @TommoMcCluskey
      @TommoMcCluskey  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I hear you. It depends on how much merit and value you put on making comments and sticking up for yourself publicly, versus privately within the team.

    • @karina0160
      @karina0160 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@TommoMcCluskey true i guess we’ll never know how things behind the scenes play into something like this. to me it seems like it’s been simmering a while and might be now starting to boil over

    • @gunjantripathi9271
      @gunjantripathi9271 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      speaking for himself doesn't equal insulting your teammate

  • @askeladden450
    @askeladden450 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +73

    George and carlos had to go for hards because they were the only ones who pushed like crazy in the opening laps, thus cutting down their first stint time. So disobeyeing the team plan did kinda cost him a bit of gap to charles at the end, although it costed charles an entire position.

    • @gameofender4463
      @gameofender4463 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      “George and russel”. I think in George’s case it wasn’t so much about tyre wear. More trying to split the strategies like in Canada.
      So it could’ve been the same logic for Sainz. As the hards were untested and if they’d worked it’d of been a genius move.

    • @askeladden450
      @askeladden450 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@gameofender4463 nah, george was struggling massively at the end of the first stint, he didnt manage his tyres well so the team had to pit him early.

    • @gameofender4463
      @gameofender4463 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@askeladden450 It wasn’t down to tyre management though as he trying to keep Lando behind for track position and to get the clean air.

    • @TommoMcCluskey
      @TommoMcCluskey  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      But do we know for sure that was the plan from Carlos' POV before the race? That's the thing, we're not a fly on the wall to know exactly what and wasn't agreed.

    • @askeladden450
      @askeladden450 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@TommoMcCluskey the biggest clue for me was charles saying on the radio 'carlos came too close there' in a surprised tone referring to when carlos was was within 0.5s in lap 2 or 3. That hints that he was under the impression that carlos would also be managing his tyres at that stage. Either he had been given wrong info on carlos' strategy or carlos overrided the strategy himself. I dont know why charles would deliberately go so slow in the last corner (which was needed for tyre management) and putting himself under big threat from behind if he hadnt been ensured that both cars would be managing.

  • @William_Organ
    @William_Organ 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Carlos pointing the finger at people for complaining is hilarious. If he spent less time whinging on track about legitimate overtakes and his own driving errors, maybe he'd finish higher.

  • @choochoooliver
    @choochoooliver 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +53

    Sacked, looking for a new seat and his home race. Perfect storm.

    • @vasekkosar3931
      @vasekkosar3931 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ... And to add to that your teammate still being quicker than you. That must have also played a part...

  • @marina06AM
    @marina06AM 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +190

    It's funny how Sainz said that Charles complains too much even tho sainz is the one always whining on radio

    • @luismasanchez9367
      @luismasanchez9367 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Not really

    • @F1dude.
      @F1dude. 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

      "Nooooooo Ricky! It cannot be, they have to talk to me after the race"

    • @TommoMcCluskey
      @TommoMcCluskey  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +57

      King of Karen ngl

    • @BwInNewJersey
      @BwInNewJersey 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Exactly. The contract pressure must be getting to him. The amount of energy and focus he expelled on getting passed by Lewis was not a good look.

    • @FCB001
      @FCB001 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      @@luismasanchez9367 he whined about Lewis 😂

  • @gameofender4463
    @gameofender4463 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +96

    Imo, it’s because Carlos probably feels like he has a point to prove against Charles. It’s the: “you’re replacing the wrong/faster driver” idea.
    Now, as much as I like Carlos, Charles is just a better/faster driver. But I wouldn’t be surprised if Carlos does whatever he can to finish ahead of Charles by the end of the season.
    Having said that, this could be good for Charles to cement his authority at Ferrari before Lewis turns up next year.

    • @ChrisStoneinator
      @ChrisStoneinator 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      “Charles is just a better/faster driver” you can’t just say things that aren’t true to try and speak them into existence. Here, let me try: “Leclerc is a complete, mature and level headed driver who has demonstrated this by bringing the car over the line in P1 most of the time when given ample opportunity” oops I’m looking at his pole:win ratio and nothing has changed!

  • @mnihadk2658
    @mnihadk2658 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    1:11 you forgot something, S-M-S was the faster strategy,but carlos stint in the mediums were really bad , that they had yo pit him for the harder compound

  • @feiwei4271
    @feiwei4271 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

    I feel like Carlos’s mind has certainly changed recently, he used to be so calculated and decent with tyre management. Ever since China, he seemed so desperate and trying to get in front of his teammate without considering tyre life at all.
    It’s not the first time Carlos did it this season, they touched in China as well when Carlos ran Charles wide.

    • @DannyBoy3
      @DannyBoy3 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      It’s not really something new though. In Austria last year Sainz was ignoring track limits and tire wear to try and get teamorders to get ahead of Leclerc. That gave him a penalty and cost him points

    • @feiwei4271
      @feiwei4271 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      @@DannyBoy3 That’s true, now I remember that one.

    • @andriusbruzas9211
      @andriusbruzas9211 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      It was always Sainz going on the line against Charles, never just staying behind and going on radio to say he is faster even when he is not. On the other hand Charles was always covering for him when behind. Singapore was won in part because Charles sacrificed his race and backed everyone up to give space. Just now that people are noticing.

    • @gunjantripathi9271
      @gunjantripathi9271 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@DannyBoy3everyone and their mothers were ignoring track limits in austria

    • @DannyBoy3
      @DannyBoy3 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@gunjantripathi9271 on accident. He did it in his desperation to seem faster than he was

  • @meirl5700
    @meirl5700 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    The graphic for hamilton and russells tyres are the wrong way round 🤓

  • @DifferentCorner42
    @DifferentCorner42 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    About the fighting in Monza and in Spain. Charles said in the post race in Barcelona that the overtake was FINE. He didn't have a problem with fighting on track, it's the ignoring of what was agreed upon before the race that pissed of Charlie boy. And he is totally right. I get Carlos wanting to look good, but not like this. And it's not the first time he does and says shady shit, just this time Charles wasn't having it and spoke his truth😅

  • @luckymo_on
    @luckymo_on 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +60

    The double standards r hilarious to me Carlos have always publicly criticised charles or ferrari in his radios or post race interviews but the moment leclerc does it, it becomes a huge issue and everyone s on his back for " betraying " the team... Now y that is i have no idea maybe charles words just carry more weight?? Who knows

    • @Dark.Valkyrie
      @Dark.Valkyrie 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yup i hate social media and journalists they are the worst they create narratives that should not exist and then all start to become toxicity

    • @DannyBoy3
      @DannyBoy3 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Exactly. The narrative is crazy

    • @Snazzy16
      @Snazzy16 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      The narrative everyone has is so absurd. As soon as Charles breaks his perfect PR facade, everyone goes crazy. I mean it’s a competitive sport and he’s allowed to be frustrated. Carlos always does this too. Weather it’s in Austria 2023, China 2024, now. And people will always say Charles needs to speak up or he’s too soft but when he does the reaction is crazy

    • @luckymo_on
      @luckymo_on 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@Snazzy16 I know! Damned if he does damned if he doesn't!! He can't win

    • @nollienick1121
      @nollienick1121 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well Carlos will always loss these. Sense Charles is liked more. Personally I hate these little behind the back things.

  • @glenrobinson10
    @glenrobinson10 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Ferrari already made their bed. They gave Leclerc the biggest contract in F1 & let the other driver go. It's admirable trying to keep things fair but not to the detriment of the team.

  • @pabloruedaarzoz8065
    @pabloruedaarzoz8065 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    It's funny cause for some spaniards Monza was Leclerc being a kamikaze. Brits and spaniards will never be on the same page when it comes to f1 narratives I guess

  • @ellea7927
    @ellea7927 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    I think Leclerc has had it. That's what happened. Too many times of Sainz getting in his way for no reason to ruin an agreed strategy (see Austria last year, China this year), and he had to swallow his pride too many times. Sainz has complained and quite frankly said worse on Leclerc, but when the other party does not engage in said discourse it dies down pretty quick. It's a long season so Fred needs to intervene now before it spirals. Sainz may be out of the door, but he has a contract to fulfill and if he acts in "his own interest" they can just kick him out and slot in a junior driver. It's that easy.

    • @SryNotSry33
      @SryNotSry33 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yes... Easy to slot a junior driver and lose the opportunity to potentially fight for constructors

    • @ellea7927
      @ellea7927 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@SryNotSry33 Mate if one of your drivers is willing to bang into your other driver at every race, then yes the result will be just the same for a constructors fight.

    • @Wickey934
      @Wickey934 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Exactly, Sainz is Ferrari's biggest problem

    • @stefan.marsenicc
      @stefan.marsenicc 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@SryNotSry33Ferrari has money, im sure Hulk for example would be more than glad to drive for Ferrari until the end while Ollie gets seat to prepare for next year

    • @SryNotSry33
      @SryNotSry33 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ellea7927 bang? They never crashed in years, racing hard is part of the sport. See podium press conference when they were talking about lando's squeeze on max. Entertainment. Same goes for Sainz when he cried when Lewis passed him on the limits. It's part of the sport.

  • @judethedude96
    @judethedude96 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    It was a shit attempt of an overtake though

    • @florisbackx1744
      @florisbackx1744 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Max and Russel could deal with it, weird that teammates can't. Russel let max pass for strategy reasons, Leclerc could have done the same. Instead he tried to defend, the defending is actually what lost him the time.

    • @judethedude96
      @judethedude96 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Leclerc was firmly on the apex and sainz from the outside collided with leclerc then cut the corner lol

    • @stefan.marsenicc
      @stefan.marsenicc 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@florisbackx1744lol? he was literally just there, Sainz attacked and Charles let him do it, as he said he wasn’t mad about overtake, but Carlos literally pushed Leclerc as much as possible (Leclerc right was literally on the curb and there was no more room on the right) and continued to squeeze him and he clipped Charles wing and then went off track

  • @saahil_xd
    @saahil_xd 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Damn, i didn't see vasseur's comment. But I agree with the fact that leclerc has been a bit of a handful this weekend since free practice itself. So vasseur maybe was not impressed by his composure this weekend.

    • @nollienick1121
      @nollienick1121 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I gave up on Charles when he dropped it in France in 2022 in open air.

  • @sharthakghosh970
    @sharthakghosh970 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Give Carlos a break, guy has been thrown out only because hammy boy wants to be out of Merc. There are so many undeserving candidates with a seat except Carlos, he is bound to be frustrated.

  • @vatsaldvora
    @vatsaldvora 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    This idiotic Netflix show has made everyone wanting off field drama everyday. Everyone starts looking into small on track tussles and want it to be a huge deal. I’m sure it’s nothing

  • @davidszabo1765
    @davidszabo1765 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Carlos is now at the "find out" phase

  • @oscrito
    @oscrito 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +65

    I think it’s just so out of character of Charles - known for being level headed, calm, patient, to comment on Sainz during his home GP in such a way (regardless of who’s at fault for the incident), and let’s not forget Charles’ deliberate attempt to crash into Lando during FP3. The whole weekend seemed off for Charles…you know it’s bad when even Fred told him to stop complaining…

    • @gameofender4463
      @gameofender4463 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

      It is quite out of character for Charles. I think he’s just incredibly frustrated.
      Like, he won Monaco. And maybe thought he could go for the championship and then it’s just gone downhill fast.
      No points in Canada, and now Mercedes have turned up with Lewis & George maximising their car. And now Carlos is seeming like he’s now interested in getting ahead of Charles.
      So it’s yet another thing to think about, one after the other.

    • @TommoMcCluskey
      @TommoMcCluskey  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      I'm glad Fred pulled him up on it. It's just not worth the agg of putting comments like that out. I'd totally forgotten about that FP3 nonsense too actually - not a good look at all.

    • @Dark.Valkyrie
      @Dark.Valkyrie 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Exactly my thoughts he was frustrated​@@gameofender4463

    • @DannyBoy3
      @DannyBoy3 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

      That‘s what Carlos has been doing for years though. He has constantly criticized Leclerc and Ferrari in the media but the second it’s done to him, it’s too much?

    • @oscrito
      @oscrito 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@DannyBoy3 the discussion was never whether it was right or wrong (i think issues like this, like tommo has said, should be discussed internally), but rather it’s so out of character of Charles. Carlos is known for whining, which makes his quote ironic, but still, it’s unlike Charles to act in such a way during a race weekend, meaning there must be some other hindering factors causing his frustration, perhaps as @gameofender4463 has suggested, from the WDC/WCC pov.

  • @nollienick1121
    @nollienick1121 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Chuck bias. Will be great next year. Lh44 nerds and Chuck fangirls. It will be great.

  • @xtheamazingax
    @xtheamazingax 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Yeah they got a problem alright: they’re getting rid of Carlos.
    But that’s the least of their troubles.

  • @MurrayMaunder
    @MurrayMaunder 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Just two bulls going at it, as it's always been in F1. Nothing to see here. Carlos is effectively watching the end of his F1 career coming. He's 29 and having to start again in 2025. It's rather sad as he was a big part of the McLaren revival in 2019/20 and a very good operator. I think he should do a Kimi or Fernando and take a sabbatical, maybe Indy 500 with McLaren.

  • @musculusiv4172
    @musculusiv4172 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Whatever Carlos does I hope wont sign anything more than a 1 year deal...

  • @jackfuller6818
    @jackfuller6818 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The Hamilton and Russel tyre graphic is the wrong way round lol, great video as usual

  • @allthegoodonesweregone
    @allthegoodonesweregone 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I think it must be hard accepting there's a huge chance he may not win a world championship creeping into Carlos' mind. He probably also struggles to comprehend why he can't match Leclerc in the same machinery even though they're generally quite close to each other over the years in qualifying generally.
    Leclerc will win a championship for Ferrari if they simply nail the regulations. If Newey comes to Ferrari and matches their upwards trajectory then you can understand why Carlos might be resentful.

    • @maite16551
      @maite16551 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I almost fully agree with that. Sainz probably won't win a wdc, while leclerc has the best chance out of the whole grid considering he was in the wdc lead several times and if not for Ferraris shitty decisions could've made it in 2022.
      And yes, Carlos frustration is understandable and totally okay to have, but he shouldn't let it out on his team and teammate while he's still driving with them. That's just a dishonorable mentality and makes him look bad with potential future teams. His driving is becoming more and more reckless and he as well as Leclerc are paying the price.

    • @1greenMitsi
      @1greenMitsi 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Only he has pretty much matched Charles in the same machinery, outscored him the first year together

    • @maite16551
      @maite16551 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @1greenMitsi yeah and that was the only time he outscored Leclerc in a Ferrari. And not to forget, especially on 2023, where Charles still came out ahead of in in the points, he was a race winner only due to Charles sacrificing his race because of team orders..

    • @nollienick1121
      @nollienick1121 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Man Charles is the most hyped up driver besides mick. He is good but seems to always make mistakes that cost him.

    • @1greenMitsi
      @1greenMitsi 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@maite16551 well theyve literally only been together 2 full seasons...so theyre one a piece....

  • @userb3nje909
    @userb3nje909 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This kicked in straight after the Catalunya race report and the volume difference was huge lol.
    Loud AF

  • @Duval-In-The-Wall
    @Duval-In-The-Wall 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Leclerc is very clearly sick of Sainz, he was angry that whole weekend

  • @BwInNewJersey
    @BwInNewJersey 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

    Very similar to the Gasly Ocon incident in Monaco -One driver chose to ignore clear team orders before the race. That would piss me off as well.

    • @michz2156
      @michz2156 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      I don’t know where you guys get that, Leclerc simply assumed that. Vasseur said that they never implied Carlos not pushing or overtaking. He said that the usual strategy here is to manage on the first stint and then the overtaking happens after going to the pits but that he could push. And looking at data Carlos in the first stint was managing the tyres far more than Charles, i think he just saw a chance and took it.

    • @greenfj1466
      @greenfj1466 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      ​@@michz2156Carlos said in the post race interview that he chose to be agressive in the first stint which is why he got the worse strategy, Leclerc managed his tyres and got the better strategy so it's pretty much Sainz's fault

    • @IGG2002
      @IGG2002 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@greenfj1466 It's Ferrari's fault. If they didn't even negotiated with Lewis Hamilton, we wouldn't see Ferrari civil war like we did now.

    • @nesrineg6496
      @nesrineg6496 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@IGG2002 you won't them to keep carlos by force if they didn't wont him its ok he doesnt have to be an ashole

    • @IGG2002
      @IGG2002 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@nesrineg6496 The team make a big mistake. Everyone knows how Mercedes treated Bottas. If Valtteri joined Ferrari in 2017 instead of joining Mercedes, he could have won the WDC at least once.

  • @DB-a-Boeing-Dr
    @DB-a-Boeing-Dr 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    And now Alpine have made him a offer over the Spain weekend which I believe was why no announcement was made. Flavio is splashing the cash already and with Dohan and Schumacher running side by side test sessions this week I dont think a double change is off the table yet. I think that Carlos even entertaining a Alpine offer to the extent it held up any announcement is worry. Its time for him to stop playing hard to get and sign so he can just get on with racing.

    • @mattle841
      @mattle841 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He's just using the alpine offer for leverage on other comtract talks. No one wants to go to that team

  • @barryallen381
    @barryallen381 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Side note. Has anyone ever benefitted from the hard tires? It seems like either no one knows how to use them, the teams can’t figure them out, or Pirelli just make the hard tires utter garbage.

  • @crystal8537
    @crystal8537 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Never liked Charles and i am proven right by his ☕️☕️. Berating teammate TWICE on LIVE TV shows a lack of professionalism & mannerisms. U can show ur anger with other words. Also Carlos helped him in Monaco and this is how Charles helped him back?? He even insulted Carlos in his home race and say he is tryna do sth SPECTACULAR. Charles has always been a spoilt fake person and he is showing his true colours now. Ppp may be fooled into thinking he is an innocent guy but he uses his sad story to appeal to others way too much but i am not fooled at all 😂😂😂

    • @nollienick1121
      @nollienick1121 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Omg a non bias take! I’m the same. Chuck says stuff in a pr way, but he is complaining. Carlos and other just say outright what was wrong.

    • @Wickey934
      @Wickey934 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Carlos did shit in Monaco

    • @Wickey934
      @Wickey934 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@nollienick1121you are so obssesed its embarrassing

  • @rileyrolstone
    @rileyrolstone 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    One of the things that frustrates me that other people have pointed it out is that there’s a double standard for Charles. When, in the past, he has kept it for internal debrief he’s been called a pushover/weak/etc. but then in situations like this where he does say that publicly (like he’s been told by media/fans/SM/etc) then he’s causing drama/should have kept it internal. I just don’t see how he wins here?
    I also don’t see how Carlos wins when at least twice this season now he’s come into contact with his teammate and/or pulled a penalty on Charles. I’m thinking this incident and when he ran Charles off track. That can’t be enticing to future teams?

  • @FrayedACCL
    @FrayedACCL 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Bottas just standing there like 👁👄👁
    I love it lmao

  • @kp-rv3ui
    @kp-rv3ui 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Sainz has been heavy on the "no fucks given" type of conduct ever since the Hamilton deal was announced, so I can only assume he already has a seat secured?

  • @TheDutchStarWarsGuy
    @TheDutchStarWarsGuy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Okay, Tommo, the best teammate pairing is McLaren, not even close.

  • @cult_personality
    @cult_personality 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Ppl forgetting here is that the issue isn’t just about team orders. Its the way he chocked Charles. He could have tried a better move. It could have endup with a double DNF too.

  • @harleynewton12
    @harleynewton12 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I liked the original title and thumbnail better :(

  • @RaySpillane
    @RaySpillane 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Probably the worst career move in F1- besides some of Alonso's - is that of Carlos jumping the good ship McLaren for the glory drive at Ferrari. The CarLando driver combination at McLaren was probably the best in F1 at the time & McLaren were on the up. McLaren are now beating their engine works team supplier on a consistent basis with Lando. Carlos is now left scouring the F1 grid in an attempt to find a seat on par with those that he had in the past few years. Shame really, I always rated Sainz but it seems he could now surpass his fellow countryman in becoming the new journeyman of F1 in an attempt to secure a drive with a reasonably paced team.

  • @SakibLH44
    @SakibLH44 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Where’d you get the cap!

  • @TiagoMorbusSa
    @TiagoMorbusSa 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Squarespace be like "imma give tommo some money"
    Tommo "Carlos Sainz is RUBBISH!!!!"

  • @brad30three
    @brad30three 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    lol. The way they’re going, Ferrari aren’t going to be competing for much… If it’s THAT big of a problem, they could just sit Sainz out and run Bearman for the rest of the season…

  • @realamerican5016
    @realamerican5016 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sainz is not helping himself by disobeying team orders. This is the reason why Red Bull didn't sign him. If they really agree not to race each other then Charles Leclerc has every right to be mad.

  • @Federix02
    @Federix02 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can you go back to your informative documentary style videos? Those actually had value, these rumour/quick feud videos literally only stay relevant for a week and then none of it ever mattered.

  • @nollienick1121
    @nollienick1121 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    He’s gonna be like vettle when he left Ferrari. I still find it funny people want to go to them lol.

  • @clintblacktiger8229
    @clintblacktiger8229 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As far as I am concerned it’s his and his families own doing
    Because he had a Ferrari contract laying down but wanted more money
    I think he regrets exactly that
    More money and longer contract
    As far as I am concerned contract was 1 year and similar money

  • @vinee01m
    @vinee01m 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You give Leclerc the soft-mid-soft because it's the better strategy, he qualified ahead so he gets the benefit of it. He should have let Carlos through.

  • @GuacJuan
    @GuacJuan 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sainz always complains in the car during the race, but Leclerc is a serial complainer post-race. Both are pretty embarrassing

  • @aoife1122
    @aoife1122 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    And Ferrari's "driver" problem will only get worse... next season.

  • @chamindujanith6337
    @chamindujanith6337 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sainz is no match for Leclerc. 7-2 in qualifying this year. 50-25 overall.

  • @suasponte8363
    @suasponte8363 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ferrari has made a critical longevity mistake. Keeping Leclerc and signing Hamilton.

  • @Boxer1250RT
    @Boxer1250RT 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just like that Leclerc needs to put his foot in Carlos's mouth rest of the season. Carlos is a sore loser! He complained about Leclerc and than Lewis and he was wrong on both cases. So glad he is out of Ferrari! Actually Ferrari should can him rest of the season and bring that young driver from F2. Next year, Carlos can be racing for the 15th place with Williams!

  • @MoGumbo_
    @MoGumbo_ 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Bruh, they have a little argument and yall start acting like the titanic just hit the iceberg

    • @nollienick1121
      @nollienick1121 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Because it’s against the grids sweetheart Charles. He can’t do anything wrong to them. Like crashing in the lead in open air. He is hyped to shit.

    • @stefan.marsenicc
      @stefan.marsenicc 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      bcs this doesn’t happen the first time? its just the first time Leclerc speaks up about it instead of post race debrief with the team

  • @magi0500
    @magi0500 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    What a thumbnail

  • @MrShadowCZE
    @MrShadowCZE 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    3:29 switched strategies between em but whatever :D

  • @biljancanin
    @biljancanin 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Im not sure he chose to leave McLaren nor Renault. Daniel came on knicking at the door, just like Lewis did this year. He .ore or less was lucky to get an offer from Ferrari, but i don't think he wanted to leave McLaren. Why would he, the environment was good, the car wasn't terrible, he had his bestie there...
    I also don't think Audi is going to have major problems with any regulations. They showed time and time again that they dominated in any motorsport they entered. Sure, F1 is a different beast to conquer, but Brown did it in 09 so why would Audi be anything but good, knowing their understanding of building fabulous racing engines. Their challenge should only be aero, and im not even sure that it will be a major challenge. Just look how they dominated LMP with thwors various cars and engines. They won with a diesel in a Motorsport dominated by petrol engines. They also have all the time and resources in the world to test out various types of aero that the regulations give them. For now, they don't even need to watch their budget for trying anything they want since they are not in the sport...

    • @chamindujanith6337
      @chamindujanith6337 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think pretty much all the driver transfers for 2021 came before the 2020 season started. Ferrari was a very established top 3 team with Red Bull and Mercedes before 2020. Others were nowhere. That's why Sainz went to Ferrari.

  • @bichta2837
    @bichta2837 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    you have put the wrong way around tiers on mercedes strategy mate 3:30

  • @Joserider123
    @Joserider123 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think this has been taken too far. Both of them are super competitive drivers and it seems one person is getting more hate than the other. Honestly i really couldn't care less about who gets more hate. I'd rather see both Ferrari drivers get podiums and be free to fight if they have a gap good enough to allow that.
    Team orders have always played a part and disobeying them has been seen as bad, but sometimes its not worth listening to because it'll compromise one driver for the benefit of the other. And in f1, you do not want to be a 2nd class citizen to your teammate.
    Also, seeing people say that carlos disobeyed team orders and yeah even though it is negative and not good, because it gives the impression that you know better than the strategists and engineers. Furthermore, hes already lost his seat and if you anyone knows about having a job, when you leave or quit but still have to come to work, sometimes staff and especially managers will treat you differently and knowing that Ferrari has just dropped Carlos for Hamilton out of nowhere, its clear that hes done with the team and personally i dont blame him. Not having a say about it and just being let go by a team you thought that had your support into the future but doesn't offer a long term deal will frustrate anyone. Keeping the same enthusiasm and drive when your team is just kicking you out shows you like to be played like a fiddle and your oblivious to the whole ordeal.
    Carlos does complain too much sometimes. Like I understand, things dont go your way and his situation on his drive is still being asked, but he has to remain focused and not let his emotions get to him.

  • @ZoRacer
    @ZoRacer 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Its Chucky vs Chucky now, and I am rooting for Chucky!

  • @valecasini
    @valecasini 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1:41 saw on the internet that Bottas was like that in the discussion between Max and Ocon 😂😂

  • @ananananananananananana
    @ananananananananananana 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What are you talking about, Charles is whining all the time 😅

  • @MajikPPMan
    @MajikPPMan 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "Classic whiny baby acts like whiny baby after GP race" there I fixed the title!
    Charles LeClairc is overrated and is very talented with his excuses.

    • @Wickey934
      @Wickey934 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You must be troll

  • @jkliao6486
    @jkliao6486 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Genuinely sounds like Carlos is just venting

  • @akhila2521
    @akhila2521 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    "He doesn't have a crystal ball
    But he's gotta make a call"
    Tommo spitting bars🔥

  • @drewd2
    @drewd2 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would probably go with Audi. Sainz can use the excuse that it's a new project if he doesn't do well, and if he does do well then he'll look really good. It's a really tough decision, though.

  • @octanegamer1576
    @octanegamer1576 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    God that Street Fighter thumbnail

  • @JJfromIA
    @JJfromIA 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I've said it before and I'll say it again... Unless Ferrari come up with a dominant car that can torch the field, Charles won't be a world champion. He's fast but doesn't have the temperament of a champion.

    • @Wickey934
      @Wickey934 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      What made you think that? What do you want from him? 🤡

    • @maite16551
      @maite16551 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I actually think especially Charles has the right temperament for being a world champion, out of all the drivers on the track. He has the right drive and hunger, he's strong willed on track and his skills are worthy of a wdc. I genuinely think, especially after 2022, if Ferrari provide him with a altleast halfway wc worthy car he can will make it. Even Verstappen called him the most likely to be a world champion

    • @nollienick1121
      @nollienick1121 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I agree. People just hype him up. He is a great driver. But I feel he lacks that killer mindset. I’d like to be proven wrong, but I’m not so sure. And he is at Ferrari 😂

  • @arjunnair8037
    @arjunnair8037 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    New thumbnail who dis?

  • @nathancomley2721
    @nathancomley2721 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    13:31 "That's all it takes"
    Love your optimism Tommo! 😂

  • @liamwhite4160
    @liamwhite4160 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sainz is still good wtf is this slander

  • @BarryThomson-d6x
    @BarryThomson-d6x 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Carlos Sainz is a dangerous driver

  • @alifpr
    @alifpr 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ah yes the two Ferrari drivers with the gooey UwU bromance, Charlie and Carl.
    Jokes aside, I always appreciate you uploading midweek to save the whole week, Tommo! I agree with your point that Fred was very good in handling the situation post-race, and I love how Bottas is there just chilling while the whole thing was burning down in front of him😂
    OH and I love love love the thumbnail!

  • @MrBritishComedy
    @MrBritishComedy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As for Sainz' future, according to Michael Schmidt, who happens to be the most knowledgeable F1 experts with sources in the paddock that are usually right, Audi is probably not an option anymore. They originally wanted to announce that he'll be joining Williams last week already, but now Alpine also seems to be on the mix. This possibly has to do with Briattore's new advisory role at Alpine who understands that Sainz is the best available option on the grid, and if that doesn't pan out, there's also gonna be a testing shootout between Mick Schumacher and Jack Doohan.