I always hear analysis about Poles good moves and his bad moves. In my view, that is beside the point. This is the 3rd year of a rebuild with a team that is struggling to earn a 5th win. That tells the story.
Yes. I was a Poles believer, but this team is heading in reverse, fast. I am incredibly embarrassed to be a fan. I continue to think they have some players with talent. I think Caleb will be a Pro Bowl QB. But this team and this organization. Wow. Warren shouldn't forget this 90 MPH in reverse thing is happening under his watch, too. They all should fucking go--
The last two weeks have shown quite a bit....1) The Bears TALK about accountability but have none.... 2) The Bears are a hapless rudderless ship heading towards an abyss... 3) All but a handful of players have quit or giving minimal effort......changed OC...changed HC...and it's the same crap in different packaging every game.
We’ve seen this so many times and we’ll see the same thing over and over again until George proves us wrong. They will hire a new HC and maybe a GM this offseason. 90% chance it won’t work out and in 2027 or 2028 we’ll have a new HC, new GM, and new rookie QB. Rinse and repeat
Don't blame Caleb missing wide open guys in front of him or throwing way off target to open receivers on play calling and the offensive line. Now that they got Eberflus fired, there is no scape goat for these players. These players are the reason they are on their 3rd offensive coordinator and 2nd head coach. The players failed on the hail mary, the players failed on the blocked fg, the players muffed punts, gave up ugly sacks, dropped passes, etc.
Stop watching the games. Stop buying gear. Stop going to the games. You know what’s gonna happen anyway be honest with yourself. Even if they win it won’t be sustained in a meaningful way.
@ I commend you for doing that good sir. Thank you for doing your part I personally appreciate you and have huge respect for you 👊 need more people like you in this fanbase that are willing to put their money where their mouth is. The team is a joke and doesn’t deserve any support from anyone.
What’s the most important attribute of a QB? That would be accuracy. Williams is not accurate in the pocket. Seems to be more accurate outside of the pocket. Which is where most of his throws in college were from.
Justin was the heart of this team and you threw it out. Now you have no heart. Now you're going to lose the players and start over. The new coach and GM will want "their guy" at qb. You deserve it.
The only Caleb talk that needs to happen is getting his drop sets right, & throwing on time w the 3 & 5 step drop!! W out rhythm it looks absolutely ridiculous harry high school & were in wk 14 🙄
Happy feet in the pocket, holding on to the ball the few times the Wrs get open. Seeing ghost on mid range throws over the middle the last couple weeks. New guards and Center would help his so much with all the pressure in his face and would allow him to confidently step up in the pocket and read the field. All this to say He is still the best Bears QB drafted since I have been a fan and if the bears do this off season correctly we should really see the best of him next year. 🐻⬇️
Yea. The Waldron system didn’t like to tie feet to the routes, so things are wonky…and I have to believe that it causes the happy feet and errant throws.
We were so starved for a good GM we crowned Poles. He cleared the books, and the Carolina trade. We let kim cook. Truth is he had a lucky trade to a desperate team. He didn't take advantage of it, and here we are. Warren needs to start fresh with a new GM and Head coach with his hand picked staff. Caleb needs to thrive next year or he will be the next Mac Jones (what a waste)
The Bears are really bleak right now. I gave up after 30 minutes yesterday. I've sat through losing seasons before. This season is next-level bad. It's to the point where I am past any kind of anger and actually feel pity and embarrassment for all involved. I am embarrassed for myself being a fan. All the optimism when Hard Knocks was airing and now we're here. Surreal.
Let’s be real this coaching in his rookie year has not helped him. He has been sacked 58 times! 13 more than anyone else. Let’s take away 18 of those because of him holding the ball he is still 4th!
Its hilarious they saying same exact things. Because of feilds talents he has to be good. Because of caleb williams talent he has to be good. Because talent=greatness. There has never in history of nfl thats had talent and been a bust lmao. R they clowns serious?
I realized the true franchise incompetence the season the Bears played in Champaign. The team stayed at a hotel in Peoria the night before games! WTF? An hour away? Driving Peoria to Champaign in a bus in winter months? Why? They couldn't afford a hotel in Urbana-Champaign? Then they came out for the opener in their home navy blue on September 8. It was 87 F and sunny at kickoff and hit 89 by 1 pm, while the Vikings were wearing all white. I knew right then that nobody in that organization at any level in any role, football or business, knows their $#!+ from Apple butter.
You know, life is so uncertain. You never know what you're going to get. Unless you're talking about the Chicago Bears. I've been a fan of this team for 40 years, and 99% of the time it's been the same BS. You can count on it.
EVERYONE ON THE TEAM FORGOT HOW TO FOOTBALL ONCE CALEB SHOWED UP.... OR... Caleb isn't as good as he or you goofballs think he is..................... Pick one
mR gEnErAtiOnAL is better at PR than QB play. The Chicago media talking heads refuse to acknowledge that they bought into the hype mirage. Despite all evidence on the field they keep saying "Caleb will be fine" but they can't answer why they think that outside of their delusional fantasies
TB was improving Caleb from the booth. Why take him and put him on the field. The offense was lookig better with him in the booth. Oh thats right its the Bears
The McCaskeys would never allow for a guy like Jaylon Carter to be drafted (bad timing for his crash). They like a very Christian look as a franchise in a violent game like football, I can't 100% blame that on Poles. Hell I wanted Carter, but when he did that I was like man there's no way it's happening. The McCaskeys biggest problem is trying to keep Alphas out of the hierarchy of staff because they didn't like how Ditka represented the team, and he didn't take shit from them, he did it his way for the most part... Well, the fans loved Ditka, so let's do what THEY don't want. What other CEO of a company would go against what the fans want?
A caller said that Caleb was the only bright spot on the team and he wonders if the Bears will ruin him. You can't be serious. You were optimistic coming into the season. What changed?
@@danilthorstensson8902 That's possible. Ever hear exactly what Eberflus said that Justin Fields "had to do" to improve? He couldn't have made it clearer that he told his subordinates what to tell Fields. I don't think Eberflus ever spoke a word to Fields directly. I don't think Fields *tried* since Eberflus humiliated him in front of the whole team that time when he refused to shake his hand. Remember how 'Flus was defending the o-line _plays_ while throwing the o-line *players* under the bus? He was defending His Plays. When an HC micromanages like that, the _LAST thing he wants_ is any subordinates speaking to the players. They might say something other than what he wants said.
@ I agree friend. But what is coming in the near future scares me pretty bad to be honest. We have no idea who will become our next head coach. And given our track record, I’d say the odds are it’s not going to be good.
The biggest thing to remember with TB at HC, they have taken two sets of eyes and brains out of the building to help with game planning and install. They’re going to be out schemed just based on manpower.
Totally agree on ‘seeing’. Well done Hoge. The ball does not come out. He is very coachable. Did better than Justin (pro-Justin guy here) in his 2nd 3rd season against same defense. Biggest difference? He’s not connected with DJ and Cole like Justin was. It’s coaching guys. Everybody breath.
@ ..it always has been, yes. I remember watching George Halas coach his last years and earlier years. By the end, the league had passed him by. He made a lot of bad choices even back then. He did hire Ditka. Ditka was a very consistent player back in the day. He and Buddy Ryan tore the league apart for a couple years in 85, 86 until they changed the rules to protect QB’s.
I have watched a bunch of NFL players not make NFL plays all year long. So ive concluded that most of these bums are not NFL players. From Borom to Jenkins to Davis to Stephenson, hell even Jaylon fell, the team is a joke. I feel bad for Caleb.
No I’m done. This year is finished. The Bears need to blow it all up and start over again. It’s getting really tiresome with this piss poor owner making the same stupid mistakes over and over.
Bears just seem like they have absolutely no direction as an organization. Seeing the stat we've had one winning season in the last 12 years is seriously making me consider stopping being a fan of this team
Yeah these guys are media. They don’t know ball. It’s nice to listen to bears stuff but they have no football credibility. In training camp they acted like this kid was Mahomes lol
And they'll say "but but mR gEnErAtiOnAL is just a rookie!!!" Conveniently pretending they didn't spend 9 months screeching about how Williams would be a day one upgrade.
Seriously! They was crowning this kid in training camp. What happen to those " anticipatory passes" ? ... I'm rooting for the kid, even though I didn't want him, and felt we should have traded the pick. I'm still sticking with him, the talent his obvious. But the ridiculous amount of times he holds onto the ball makes it very hard to like him.
At the nine minute mark he takes full responsibility and says “shame on us for creating these expectations” That’s hardly “conveniently pretending.” What and listen to what they have to say before commenting
Funny thing is we'll probably see Kramer on a new team next year and they'll run those short yardage plays with him with great success. That's usually how these things go for the Bears. And yeah, Caleb will for sure be at the end of his second contract, for whichever team he might be playing on then, hopefully ours, by the time that Bears stadium is built.
The lions had Matt Stafford for a long time and sucked look at them now. How many times will this fanbase and front office scapegoat quarterback play while ignoring the obvious incompetence across the whole organization
@ carrying them to what exactly? And do you think the bears just happened to never draft a quarterback capable of throwing for 4000 yards in over 100 years? Or is it probably an organization problem use common sense
This isn’t a Caleb thing btw I was actually screaming to trade the pick and build the roster but he’s obviously very talented and like Justin fields if he was developed properly in his first few years he would be elite
@@fairx there are no excuses my friend. Just a truth. This team is terrible, always will be, and this city will always live with the worst because it kind of already lives that itself.
B-man had more sense than I did; I should have taken Hoge's advice to fans in Europe at the end of the CHGO pregame and gone to bed, instead of staying up to 3am and only retiring when the Vikes scored to go 20-3 up late in Q3.
These excuses wasn't there for Culter, Mich and Justin and i dont want to hear them now. Everyone knew what the Bears should have did last off season and we took a QB instead of trading those picks. Now the media has to save face and blame Everyone but the QB.
You fans blaming the media and a rookie QB are just delusional. The real problem is the organization. All of it. From owners to management to players to media to fans. Thinking either JF or CW would save this clown show is certifiably insane. Arguing about it now is just asinine.
The coaches definitely ruined Caleb rookie yr ,However that said they have not ruined him. He’s is great . An offensive minded coaching staff will take this team and blow up the NFC and the NFL mark me the Bears and Caleb are going to be great .
To your point about getting everything to work together. That’s why you don’t tank and start your team over. You build over time with legit vets ‘and’ rookies. No need to purge the Oline before you had real replacements. Same with the D. Phase guys out and phase guys in while winning. But! You can’t do that with a rookie GM and. rookie HC. Every guy Poles sent packing was a guy Flus did not want. You don’t get rid of your power back until you have one who will truly replace him. Not on IR, on the f-ing field! But….. Flus. Flus. fing Flus.
Since no one will say it, this team is really bad, yes. Up and down not good and Caleb has looked down right bad for 90% of the plays. The dude appears to have significant accuracy issues. Not looking good.
Tyson Bagent never had o line issues, or coaching issues, or footwork issues, or receiver issues.............. Poles wants to develop his draft pick to do the things his back up does well already....... Weird... Caleb needs to be more like Tyson to become an NFL QB
1I am pounding the table for Tyson...2 Tyson had three interceptions after posting a 127 QBR through three quarters against one of the better defenses in the league against the saints stat boy.... And 3rd arm strength is way less important than accuracy, unless your stupid like yourself
Let the Secret Bagent Man finish out the season, protect Caleb until next year!! The Bears have turned into the Old Cleveland Browns before they made their comeback..or you could say we are the New Lions of the North hahaha..
Let's not waste any more breath or time on making excuses for. The facts are Ryan Poles is a pisspoor GM that knows nothing about evaluating NFL talent Who unfortunately is supported by a bunch of dumdum fans who know nothing about Chicago bears football.
Look at this pathetic coaching situation...that should answer your question about development....players come here and get WORSE (Keenan Allen)....we rarely see marked improvements by anyone in a Bears uniform. Players like Montgomery leave and do very well in Detroit.
Hey is mR gEnErAtiOnAL going to lead the Bears to the playoffs and win rookie of the year like you guys thought? Or are you still buying into the hype mirage?
DJ Moore walking off the field again like he don't give a shit. I guarantee if we get Vrabel, he'll put an end to that shit, or DJ will be gone!! This is exactly what needs to be done with alot of players.
Gayleb holds the ball forever. He’s WILDLY inaccurate (worst rated QB by PFF downfield). He can’t read a defense. What game are you people watching. The bears have put up ZERO first half points in 5 of their last 8 games. He’s ALL garbage time.
Honestly bro, y’all are hilarious…. LT didn’t have a bad game, he had bad plays being exaggerated…. 2 sacks was the results of the terrible oline play…. Every oline gives up pressures and sacks, not even up for debate…. Rookies struggle, we can all agree…. But compiling the issues with bad takes about both issues is golden… My issue with the Bears is the way they coddled Caleb…. He should not be a team captain…. If he’s generational, yes he should overcome bad play calling, oline, and defensive he faces…. That’s what makes him generational. Caleb is just another rookie qb, who has to be developed…. The Bears have no idea how to be a NFL franchise…. Enter the expressions of the new Bears President Kevin Warren here…. Regardless of how you feel about his career, he’s been in the room of functional football teams…. He recognizes these owners have no idea what they’re doing, and is willing to take the responsibility anyway. Hence, I’ll give Kevin the opportunity to do his job, and will remain a faithful fan until we figure this out… Every team is dis functional until they get the best football minds who will put the Bears back in the hunt…
No. Would we have been better *this year* if we turned 1.01 into more assets (especially at OL and DL)? Maybe, but it would still be a roller coaster with a QB that fundamentally cannot play the position. So then you either have to pay him way more money than he's worth, or turn to what looks like two pretty bad QB draft classes for answers-good QBs simply do not hit free agency anymore. And given the value of the position, it would be *really* hard to use draft assets to trade for one-look at what it cost the Jets and Broncos to get... whatever it is Rodgers is doing and what Wilson did in Denver. The QB is the most important position on the team, and the most important position in sports. And he's having a pretty nice rookie season for a team that's on their 2nd HC and (effectively) DC, and their third OC. In one season. It's a lot easier to fix a team with a good QB than a team with a bad one. Their current problems are way, way easier to fix than the stripped-down 2022 roster. You could argue that Poles rebuilt the team backwards (and I wouldn't disagree), but the reality is that we're like 4 players and a whole new coaching staff away from turning this thing around.
@ well we now see that the QB we had that played with less talent around him made sugar out of sh!t. We are now asking Caleb to do the same when we could have built a superior team that could support any QB!
Caleb was a statue out there. Can’t make quick decisions. Missing wide open guys. My god his average depth of target mid way through the 3rd quarter was 0.6 yards.
How it started: "best situation ever for a first overall rookie QB"
How it's going: "this situation sucks, beyond his control"
You love to see it.
Yk it’s bad when you start hating everything associated with the team. Including podcasters and commentators even talking about the team
I always hear analysis about Poles good moves and his bad moves. In my view, that is beside the point. This is the 3rd year of a rebuild with a team that is struggling to earn a 5th win. That tells the story.
Yes. I was a Poles believer, but this team is heading in reverse, fast. I am incredibly embarrassed to be a fan. I continue to think they have some players with talent. I think Caleb will be a Pro Bowl QB. But this team and this organization. Wow. Warren shouldn't forget this 90 MPH in reverse thing is happening under his watch, too. They all should fucking go--
@@bg147 very true. Who cares what he did when this team can’t get five wins, let alone a winning season?
@@johnsnow9653 agreed. Just tired of the same old crap. It just doesn’t get better.
U people are so dumb the nfl is fake scripted rigged football
@@johnsnow9653I never was. Him and Fluss came in as know it alls and we are a mess
Don't understand why the WR's don't get more criticism. We're seeing multiple drops every week and lots of the throws are right on the money
Keenan Allen had a good career but he needs released. And I’d be tempted to let DJ walk as well.
Geezus.... Y'all need to dig a little deeper into that 55 gallon drum of excuses for Caleb and actually, maybe come up with an original thought
@@jrhayes6901go watch bustin
@@rebeitler1Keenan is a free agent in 3 weeks, DJ is under contract for another 4 years
@ I know. But I’d still be tempted.
The last two weeks have shown quite a bit....1) The Bears TALK about accountability but have none.... 2) The Bears are a hapless rudderless ship heading towards an abyss... 3) All but a handful of players have quit or giving minimal effort......changed OC...changed HC...and it's the same crap in different packaging every game.
We’ve seen this so many times and we’ll see the same thing over and over again until George proves us wrong. They will hire a new HC and maybe a GM this offseason. 90% chance it won’t work out and in 2027 or 2028 we’ll have a new HC, new GM, and new rookie QB. Rinse and repeat
@@sean97712 and another wasted career for a young QB with potential.
Yep , you can take that to the bank , George will F it up !!
Don't blame Caleb missing wide open guys in front of him or throwing way off target to open receivers on play calling and the offensive line. Now that they got Eberflus fired, there is no scape goat for these players. These players are the reason they are on their 3rd offensive coordinator and 2nd head coach. The players failed on the hail mary, the players failed on the blocked fg, the players muffed punts, gave up ugly sacks, dropped passes, etc.
The real question is if you kept fields got the hual fixed the offensive line we are in the playoffs
Stop watching the games. Stop buying gear. Stop going to the games. You know what’s gonna happen anyway be honest with yourself. Even if they win it won’t be sustained in a meaningful way.
I threw my jersey into the pot in a jiffy Jon when leaving the game in Washington. Hopefully some one shit on it.
@ I commend you for doing that good sir. Thank you for doing your part I personally appreciate you and have huge respect for you 👊 need more people like you in this fanbase that are willing to put their money where their mouth is. The team is a joke and doesn’t deserve any support from anyone.
@rebeitler1 why would you give up after the Washington game?
They were 4-3 after that game. Weird
Do all that and the bears still get their cut of the revenue share
What’s the most important attribute of a QB? That would be accuracy.
Williams is not accurate in the pocket. Seems to be more accurate outside of the pocket. Which is where most of his throws in college were from.
Justin was the heart of this team and you threw it out. Now you have no heart. Now you're going to lose the players and start over. The new coach and GM will want "their guy" at qb. You deserve it.
Why was the hit on Darnold a flag, but not the one on Caleb?
The only Caleb talk that needs to happen is getting his drop sets right, & throwing on time w the 3 & 5 step drop!! W out rhythm it looks absolutely ridiculous harry high school & were in wk 14 🙄
Happy feet in the pocket, holding on to the ball the few times the Wrs get open. Seeing ghost on mid range throws over the middle the last couple weeks. New guards and Center would help his so much with all the pressure in his face and would allow him to confidently step up in the pocket and read the field. All this to say He is still the best Bears QB drafted since I have been a fan and if the bears do this off season correctly we should really see the best of him next year. 🐻⬇️
Yea. The Waldron system didn’t like to tie feet to the routes, so things are wonky…and I have to believe that it causes the happy feet and errant throws.
We were so starved for a good GM we crowned Poles. He cleared the books, and the Carolina trade. We let kim cook. Truth is he had a lucky trade to a desperate team. He didn't take advantage of it, and here we are. Warren needs to start fresh with a new GM and Head coach with his hand picked staff. Caleb needs to thrive next year or he will be the next Mac Jones (what a waste)
You need a veteran center and two guards and you need a power back to help out DeAndre Swift ground and pound, and then let him throw the ball
Yes to all but especially the power back. Swift has his talents but he's awful when we need to get 1 yard.
What bout LT the most important position on the oline for a right handed qb?
The Bears are really bleak right now. I gave up after 30 minutes yesterday. I've sat through losing seasons before. This season is next-level bad. It's to the point where I am past any kind of anger and actually feel pity and embarrassment for all involved. I am embarrassed for myself being a fan. All the optimism when Hard Knocks was airing and now we're here. Surreal.
Didnt they also give up a 4th for bates who has played in what, 1 game? Poles has no clue about o-lineman for some reason.
Let’s be real this coaching in his rookie year has not helped him. He has been sacked 58 times! 13 more than anyone else. Let’s take away 18 of those because of him holding the ball he is still 4th!
Coaching, O-line, culture...it's all bad, and it starts at the top.
D'andre Swift is a major issue for the Bears. He is a terrible running back.
If only they still had Blasingame, I would've liked to see Brown bring back the I Formation, though maybe using Cole as a FB could be a possibility.
Its hilarious they saying same exact things. Because of feilds talents he has to be good. Because of caleb williams talent he has to be good. Because talent=greatness. There has never in history of nfl thats had talent and been a bust lmao. R they clowns serious?
I realized the true franchise incompetence the season the Bears played in Champaign. The team stayed at a hotel in Peoria the night before games! WTF? An hour away? Driving Peoria to Champaign in a bus in winter months? Why? They couldn't afford a hotel in Urbana-Champaign? Then they came out for the opener in their home navy blue on September 8. It was 87 F and sunny at kickoff and hit 89 by 1 pm, while the Vikings were wearing all white. I knew right then that nobody in that organization at any level in any role, football or business, knows their $#!+ from Apple butter.
I’m glad dude asked him straight forward questions instead of ass Kissing like certain drunk interviewers i quit watching.
You know, life is so uncertain. You never know what you're going to get. Unless you're talking about the Chicago Bears. I've been a fan of this team for 40 years, and 99% of the time it's been the same BS. You can count on it.
I wonder how Georgie and his relatives feel knowing their grandfather hates them
EVERYONE ON THE TEAM FORGOT HOW TO FOOTBALL ONCE CALEB SHOWED UP.... OR... Caleb isn't as good as he or you goofballs think he is..................... Pick one
mR gEnErAtiOnAL is better at PR than QB play.
The Chicago media talking heads refuse to acknowledge that they bought into the hype mirage. Despite all evidence on the field they keep saying "Caleb will be fine" but they can't answer why they think that outside of their delusional fantasies
These aren’t mutually exclusive options
Hoge's maniacal laughter when he asked if Fishman thinks the stadium is gonna be done by 2034 made me snort.
Hoge and Jahns wanted Thomas Brown to be retained by the Bears. Now they're acting like it was so obvious he was not the guy.
TB was improving Caleb from the booth. Why take him and put him on the field. The offense was lookig better with him in the booth. Oh thats right its the Bears
Don’t underestimate the effects of the Fluberflus/Poles failures. Land mines going off everywhere they stood.
Hoge lets see you get hit the way Caleb had this season and see ehat or how you'd do? Like seriously??
Mel Kipper gives you the top 10 picks so Poles gets no credit for drafting Wright
One of my favorite people that come on the show is the FISHMAN!!!! he ia awesome. I hope to meet the guy some day!!!!
The McCaskeys would never allow for a guy like Jaylon Carter to be drafted (bad timing for his crash). They like a very Christian look as a franchise in a violent game like football, I can't 100% blame that on Poles. Hell I wanted Carter, but when he did that I was like man there's no way it's happening. The McCaskeys biggest problem is trying to keep Alphas out of the hierarchy of staff because they didn't like how Ditka represented the team, and he didn't take shit from them, he did it his way for the most part... Well, the fans loved Ditka, so let's do what THEY don't want. What other CEO of a company would go against what the fans want?
Not drafting Carter was very stupid.
@@akireon5440 good points.
A caller said that Caleb was the only bright spot on the team and he wonders if the Bears will ruin him. You can't be serious. You were optimistic coming into the season. What changed?
The fact that Thomas never even spoke to CW before he was promoted is mind boggling
??? The QB coach didn’t speak to the QB
@@danilthorstensson8902 That's possible. Ever hear exactly what Eberflus said that Justin Fields "had to do" to improve? He couldn't have made it clearer that he told his subordinates what to tell Fields. I don't think Eberflus ever spoke a word to Fields directly. I don't think Fields *tried* since Eberflus humiliated him in front of the whole team that time when he refused to shake his hand. Remember how 'Flus was defending the o-line _plays_ while throwing the o-line *players* under the bus? He was defending His Plays.
When an HC micromanages like that, the _LAST thing he wants_ is any subordinates speaking to the players.
They might say something other than what he wants said.
Enough lamenting not hiring harbaugh.... It's over. He's not coming to Chicago. It sucks, but let's move on.
Yes let's move on...from the entire organization that didn't pursue him or any other good coach. If only we could get rid of the owners.
@@drdoerder very true. But even worse than lamenting what we didn’t do is the fear I have of who comes next.
@@rebeitler1 totally true, but I'd rather talk about the future than the past...
@ I agree friend. But what is coming in the near future scares me pretty bad to be honest. We have no idea who will become our next head coach. And given our track record, I’d say the odds are it’s not going to be good.
@@rebeitler1 they don't give us much reason to trust their choices...
At least they was tanking during Field’s run😂
The biggest thing to remember with TB at HC, they have taken two sets of eyes and brains out of the building to help with game planning and install. They’re going to be out schemed just based on manpower.
Totally agree on ‘seeing’. Well done Hoge. The ball does not come out. He is very coachable. Did better than Justin (pro-Justin guy here) in his 2nd 3rd season against same defense. Biggest difference? He’s not connected with DJ and Cole like Justin was. It’s coaching guys. Everybody breath.
He’ll have a complete off season to work on footwork and review tape. He’s still looking to catch Rogers.
Agree with everything here. Cole has flat out just been bad all year. My worry is that DJ might ask for a trade if things don't change fast.
It's not just coaching; it's the entire organization.
@ ..it always has been, yes. I remember watching George Halas coach his last years and earlier years. By the end, the league had passed him by. He made a lot of bad choices even back then. He did hire Ditka. Ditka was a very consistent player back in the day. He and Buddy Ryan tore the league apart for a couple years in 85, 86 until they changed the rules to protect QB’s.
I have watched a bunch of NFL players not make NFL plays all year long. So ive concluded that most of these bums are not NFL players. From Borom to Jenkins to Davis to Stephenson, hell even Jaylon fell, the team is a joke. I feel bad for Caleb.
No I’m done. This year is finished. The Bears need to blow it all up and start over again. It’s getting really tiresome with this piss poor owner making the same stupid mistakes over and over.
Ford was great. Grown man. Not sure what Poles is drafting.
Bears just seem like they have absolutely no direction as an organization. Seeing the stat we've had one winning season in the last 12 years is seriously making me consider stopping being a fan of this team
Whats funny! Its the same podcasters who was blaming everything on Justin. The things that they pointed out in JF, CW doest it far worse.
Yeah these guys are media. They don’t know ball. It’s nice to listen to bears stuff but they have no football credibility. In training camp they acted like this kid was Mahomes lol
And they'll say "but but mR gEnErAtiOnAL is just a rookie!!!"
Conveniently pretending they didn't spend 9 months screeching about how Williams would be a day one upgrade.
@@bk138gt6 You know, CW can still be good no doubt! But, the " day one upgrade" was laughable and such a ridiculous take.
Seriously! They was crowning this kid in training camp. What happen to those " anticipatory passes" ? ... I'm rooting for the kid, even though I didn't want him, and felt we should have traded the pick. I'm still sticking with him, the talent his obvious. But the ridiculous amount of times he holds onto the ball makes it very hard to like him.
At the nine minute mark he takes full responsibility and says “shame on us for creating these expectations”
That’s hardly “conveniently pretending.”
What and listen to what they have to say before commenting
Funny thing is we'll probably see Kramer on a new team next year and they'll run those short yardage plays with him with great success. That's usually how these things go for the Bears.
And yeah, Caleb will for sure be at the end of his second contract, for whichever team he might be playing on then, hopefully ours, by the time that Bears stadium is built.
The intro was needed 😂
The lions had Matt Stafford for a long time and sucked look at them now. How many times will this fanbase and front office scapegoat quarterback play while ignoring the obvious incompetence across the whole organization
It will never end as long as the McCaskeys are owners !!
@@skipjohnson7255you nailed it unfortunately
Stafford was carrying that team. Caleb is holding this team back. the Lions were infinitely worse than the Bears when he got there
@ carrying them to what exactly? And do you think the bears just happened to never draft a quarterback capable of throwing for 4000 yards in over 100 years? Or is it probably an organization problem use common sense
This isn’t a Caleb thing btw I was actually screaming to trade the pick and build the roster but he’s obviously very talented and like Justin fields if he was developed properly in his first few years he would be elite
Here come the excuses
@@fairx there are no excuses my friend. Just a truth. This team is terrible, always will be, and this city will always live with the worst because it kind of already lives that itself.
B-man had more sense than I did; I should have taken Hoge's advice to fans in Europe at the end of the CHGO pregame and gone to bed, instead of staying up to 3am and only retiring when the Vikes scored to go 20-3 up late in Q3.
There is that one point in every Bears game where they hit themselves in the nuts and it's all over.
These excuses wasn't there for Culter, Mich and Justin and i dont want to hear them now. Everyone knew what the Bears should have did last off season and we took a QB instead of trading those picks. Now the media has to save face and blame Everyone but the QB.
Cutler was a vet, the excuses were very much there for mitch and JF their rookie years, and hell JF was getting them a lot last year
You fans blaming the media and a rookie QB are just delusional. The real problem is the organization. All of it. From owners to management to players to media to fans. Thinking either JF or CW would save this clown show is certifiably insane. Arguing about it now is just asinine.
Fishman makes a splash!
The coaches definitely ruined Caleb rookie yr ,However that said they have not ruined him. He’s is great . An offensive minded coaching staff will take this team and blow up the NFC and the NFL mark me the Bears and Caleb are going to be great .
I'm a Packer fan and I'm rooting for caleb. But not against the Packers.
Sit down 18 and let him heal and watch. What can he learn playing with this trash. #revokethechaterfranchise
They need to just shake the Etch-a-Sketch and start over.
To your point about getting everything to work together. That’s why you don’t tank and start your team over. You build over time with legit vets ‘and’ rookies. No need to purge the Oline before you had real replacements. Same with the D. Phase guys out and phase guys in while winning.
But! You can’t do that with a rookie GM and. rookie HC. Every guy Poles sent packing was a guy Flus did not want. You don’t get rid of your power back until you have one who will truly replace him. Not on IR, on the f-ing field! But….. Flus. Flus. fing Flus.
I love how they complain about Illinois politics yet the vote for the people who run the state. 😂😂😂
STOP drafting “projects”!
Generational players overcome bad coaching and make lemonade outta lemons and shine no matter the consequences
Since no one will say it, this team is really bad, yes. Up and down not good and Caleb has looked down right bad for 90% of the plays. The dude appears to have significant accuracy issues. Not looking good.
Tyson Bagent never had o line issues, or coaching issues, or footwork issues, or receiver issues.............. Poles wants to develop his draft pick to do the things his back up does well already....... Weird... Caleb needs to be more like Tyson to become an NFL QB
Tyson also can’t throw the ball further than 15 yarda
You’re not actually pounding the table for Tyson Bagent 😭
How many times does he turn over the ball? Lol
1I am pounding the table for Tyson...2 Tyson had three interceptions after posting a 127 QBR through three quarters against one of the better defenses in the league against the saints stat boy.... And 3rd arm strength is way less important than accuracy, unless your stupid like yourself
Let the Secret Bagent Man finish out the season, protect Caleb until next year!! The Bears have turned into the Old Cleveland Browns before they made their comeback..or you could say we are the New Lions of the North hahaha..
Let's not waste any more breath or time on making excuses for. The facts are Ryan Poles is a pisspoor GM that knows nothing about evaluating NFL talent Who unfortunately is supported by a bunch of dumdum fans who know nothing about Chicago bears football.
For a 3rd round pick he looked rough out there. Where is the development of players in this organization?
Look at this pathetic coaching situation...that should answer your question about development....players come here and get WORSE (Keenan Allen)....we rarely see marked improvements by anyone in a Bears uniform. Players like Montgomery leave and do very well in Detroit.
The organization doesn't have a clue on how to run an NFL team , they couldn't manage a lemonade stand !
Hey is mR gEnErAtiOnAL going to lead the Bears to the playoffs and win rookie of the year like you guys thought?
Or are you still buying into the hype mirage?
I miss fields. The games are so boring to watch now
The games aren't even fun anymore. More scrambling that leads to nothing
DJ Moore walking off the field again like he don't give a shit. I guarantee if we get Vrabel, he'll put an end to that shit, or DJ will be gone!! This is exactly what needs to be done with alot of players.
Yeah Moore got extended way too early.
Please I want a new Offensive Line Coach next year pleaseeee
To criticize Caleb after all the circumstances is kind of dumb and boring.
Gayleb holds the ball forever. He’s WILDLY inaccurate (worst rated QB by PFF downfield). He can’t read a defense. What game are you people watching. The bears have put up ZERO first half points in 5 of their last 8 games. He’s ALL garbage time.
Garbage Time Caleb!
You know the saying
crap flows downhill
Honestly bro, y’all are hilarious…. LT didn’t have a bad game, he had bad plays being exaggerated…. 2 sacks was the results of the terrible oline play…. Every oline gives up pressures and sacks, not even up for debate…. Rookies struggle, we can all agree…. But compiling the issues with bad takes about both issues is golden… My issue with the Bears is the way they coddled Caleb…. He should not be a team captain…. If he’s generational, yes he should overcome bad play calling, oline, and defensive he faces…. That’s what makes him generational. Caleb is just another rookie qb, who has to be developed…. The Bears have no idea how to be a NFL franchise…. Enter the expressions of the new Bears President Kevin Warren here…. Regardless of how you feel about his career, he’s been in the room of functional football teams…. He recognizes these owners have no idea what they’re doing, and is willing to take the responsibility anyway. Hence, I’ll give Kevin the opportunity to do his job, and will remain a faithful fan until we figure this out… Every team is dis functional until they get the best football minds who will put the Bears back in the hunt…
Can we be honest and say we needed the haul more than we needed a QB?!
No. Would we have been better *this year* if we turned 1.01 into more assets (especially at OL and DL)? Maybe, but it would still be a roller coaster with a QB that fundamentally cannot play the position. So then you either have to pay him way more money than he's worth, or turn to what looks like two pretty bad QB draft classes for answers-good QBs simply do not hit free agency anymore. And given the value of the position, it would be *really* hard to use draft assets to trade for one-look at what it cost the Jets and Broncos to get... whatever it is Rodgers is doing and what Wilson did in Denver.
The QB is the most important position on the team, and the most important position in sports. And he's having a pretty nice rookie season for a team that's on their 2nd HC and (effectively) DC, and their third OC. In one season. It's a lot easier to fix a team with a good QB than a team with a bad one. Their current problems are way, way easier to fix than the stripped-down 2022 roster. You could argue that Poles rebuilt the team backwards (and I wouldn't disagree), but the reality is that we're like 4 players and a whole new coaching staff away from turning this thing around.
@ well we now see that the QB we had that played with less talent around him made sugar out of sh!t. We are now asking Caleb to do the same when we could have built a superior team that could support any QB!
We needed Harbaugh and we needed O line instead of Rome at 9.
Hoge is effected by the horrible bias from the announcers.
Caleb was a statue out there. Can’t make quick decisions. Missing wide open guys. My god his average depth of target mid way through the 3rd quarter was 0.6 yards.
EVERYONE ON THE TEAM FORGOT HOW TO FOOTBALL ONCE CALEB SHOWED UP..... OR... Caleb sucks ass and isn't as good as he or you think he is.... Pick one
@@NJPackerfan65 You should get a life dude. Watching your teams rival TH-cam channel. Yikes.
@@jrhayes6901 that's a false dichotomy, of course.
Sure Jan
Maybe the coaches were fired because of William's concerningly inconsistency and inaccuracy.
They would have been fired 2 years ago if that was the case...
I hate the voicemail segment. I know it drives engagement but I don’t need to listen to angry drunks
I like the voicemails
Bears won't win until the McCaskeys sell. Nothing is going to change.
I have hope with a new coaching regime. 🐻 👇
Make Thomas brown full time head coach asap. Leader of men
Tomlin Brown they said... Leader of men they said... Generational they said... Best ever situation ever for a rookie they said.... They are stupid
Caleb plays like Cutler.