I had that same job. Was extremely BORING and stressful at the same time. Pay was high but not worth it. Now I get paid less than half but absolutely love my helpdesk job and it’s FUN!
You gotta make your reports, give your advisement and then sleep with a clear conscience. In this role it IS NOT your responsibility to accept the risk. That is the role of whatever leadership is actually responsible / owns the enterprise. Do your job, document, inform, and CYA. If others cannot or will not act that is ultimately up to leadership to fix. It would be more satisfying to see progress and do it yourself; that is certain.
@@JoshMadakor Repeating that to myself was the only way I got by when in IA Management role. In my experience the IA Technical side was more satisfying to find issues with patching or other vulns and resolve at scale. Much more technically challenging, but paid less than than IAM. I wonder if that is generally the case with IAT vs IAM. Really enjoy your content. Thanks for putting stuff out there.
my wife is going through the same thing at her job. She is a Software Engineer at Wells Fargo and their separation of duties is insane. Creating and sending a file should be easy...but when you have a person who creates the file, a person who sends the file, a person to monitor the connection, a person who receives the file, and a person who monitors failures, it becomes frustrating when you can't get a hold of someone when something breaks.
I can attest to this. I work on VM and there are times when other departments give you a hard time and take forever to remediate the vulnerabilities. But when they respond quickly and apply fixes in a timely manner, it's a very chill job.
It's interesting that there are a number of less adequate professionals in many of the available roles, yet all the listings demand some pretty high requirements, i.e. Masters + 5-8years experience + many other semi-related skills, etc... If they're sticking to their requirements and they're meaningful, why are there so many complaints?..
I am currently working as Senior NOC i have a basic understanding of networks and taking an internship of a month using qualys tool for a vulnerability management role. I have the same feeling as NOC Engineer asking resolution to resolver team(network/systems). They are not resolving and we are being blame. But as I tried the quals tool i feel it's one of the career I am interested. Do I have the chance to enter to vulnerability management by getting that 1 month intern?
Can you discuss your experience living the digital nomad life in other countries rather than getting married and living the traditional life. I think as time goes on men and women are opting out of marriage or at least pushing it back well into their 30s and going for this digital nomad life. I would love to hear your experience (I’m assuming your not married lol) thanks again!
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I had that same job. Was extremely BORING and stressful at the same time. Pay was high but not worth it. Now I get paid less than half but absolutely love my helpdesk job and it’s FUN!
Laughed when I read your comment lmao "extremely BORING and stressful at the same time" lmao, glad you like your new job. I def understand.
You gotta make your reports, give your advisement and then sleep with a clear conscience. In this role it IS NOT your responsibility to accept the risk. That is the role of whatever leadership is actually responsible / owns the enterprise. Do your job, document, inform, and CYA. If others cannot or will not act that is ultimately up to leadership to fix. It would be more satisfying to see progress and do it yourself; that is certain.
Thanks a lot, this is actually some sage advice and is the right way to go about things. Cool username too^^
@@JoshMadakor Repeating that to myself was the only way I got by when in IA Management role. In my experience the IA Technical side was more satisfying to find issues with patching or other vulns and resolve at scale. Much more technically challenging, but paid less than than IAM. I wonder if that is generally the case with IAT vs IAM. Really enjoy your content. Thanks for putting stuff out there.
my wife is going through the same thing at her job. She is a Software Engineer at Wells Fargo and their separation of duties is insane. Creating and sending a file should be easy...but when you have a person who creates the file, a person who sends the file, a person to monitor the connection, a person who receives the file, and a person who monitors failures, it becomes frustrating when you can't get a hold of someone when something breaks.
Yeah, seriously. I GET what that control is supposed to be doing, but sometimes it makes things worse lol..
I can attest to this. I work on VM and there are times when other departments give you a hard time and take forever to remediate the vulnerabilities. But when they respond quickly and apply fixes in a timely manner, it's a very chill job.
Vulnerability management when you have a good team is like zen gardening. Sense of inner peace when you can get a bunch of vulnerabilities patched.
Stuck in the same, trying to get out but is hard getting anything else because of skill gap..
I was working in VM...same experience
Living that work life now. I dont have access to any system except for EDR and Nessus.
Same😂
Appreciate your honesty lol
It's interesting that there are a number of less adequate professionals in many of the available roles, yet all the listings demand some pretty high requirements, i.e. Masters + 5-8years experience + many other semi-related skills, etc...
If they're sticking to their requirements and they're meaningful, why are there so many complaints?..
Yes I totally agree on that😅
I am currently working as Senior NOC i have a basic understanding of networks and taking an internship of a month using qualys tool for a vulnerability management role.
I have the same feeling as NOC Engineer asking resolution to resolver team(network/systems). They are not resolving and we are being blame.
But as I tried the quals tool i feel it's one of the career I am interested.
Do I have the chance to enter to vulnerability management by getting that 1 month intern?
Can you discuss your experience living the digital nomad life in other countries rather than getting married and living the traditional life. I think as time goes on men and women are opting out of marriage or at least pushing it back well into their 30s and going for this digital nomad life. I would love to hear your experience (I’m assuming your not married lol) thanks again!
Separation of duties for prevent vulnerabilities ?
Did the vulnerability management job pay well ? Do Vulnerability management jobs usually pay well in general ?
Did you use Qualys
It was always vulnerability remediation team, not us bro 😂😂
Around how much the salary range was? Also what are you doing now?
I know how you feel it I hated to for the same reason
I am thinking about getting into IAM. Is it stressful?
Can you help me get a job in the cyber world?
Yes, lol
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