Wow I just found your channel but this is insanely cool! Makes me want to get back into engineering so I can learn how to do stuff like this. Ive been watching you generator videos. Much better setup than just buying a Generac standby or a cummins.
@@nics-systems-electricHello Nick great video really informative. I have a project that i have to shut of the fan in a server room. I have installed the fire alarm. The fan have a current of 230V coming from the distribution board.Can you tell me a way to do it thru relays. Thank you
@@ministrygreene2556 I won't be setting off either real system those ones aren't one that get messed around with. I will be doing a demo system with a bunch of devices
Commercial smoke detectors are better because I think they work better, also I learned that they don't make noise themselves like residential ones do. I wish I had a commercial fire alarm system, but that would be too much work.
back when I was younger, I worked in a rest home as a NRNA, and we had a large storm during the day, and a power failure one time, and the backup gen didn't kick in. it was aery hearing the alarms going off, being in relative darkness, and the fire doors rhythmically slamming shut. the Maint man was pulling his hair out trying to get the backup going. it was an older facility, probably built in the 1950's. and they had a backup gen. probably of the same era ,that was really persnickety sometimes. I went past it many years later and it is now an Alzheimer's.facility.I assume they did some major upgrades since I worked there.
Do you have a link to the duct that you used. Similar duct we use in Aus dosent hinge and dosnt have that doubled sided tape on it, that stuff that youre using looks so much easier to install.
Yes it will. The door holder latches to the door via magnet. When you give it power it will latch on when there's no power it will not latch. So when there is a power outage the magnet will loose its power therefor letting go of the door.
@@nics-systems-electric I'm not an electrician but do bits around the house and I'm always super jumpy about using none-VDE tools - even when I KNOW the circuit is off/LOTO'd. I saw your linemans and wondered. Love your work - keep it up! 👍😊
@@Rainbowhockey even the non-insulated tools usually are still insulated if you just hold them in the right place lol just not actually tested and listed for it
Not airtight but still makes a huge difference same reason it said that it's a good idea to keep your bedroom doors closed at night even though those aren't airtight either
Anchors are their own thing that widen when the screw is installed zip it self thread in to the wall and then don't get any wider once a fastener is installed
Hell Nick great video really informative. I have a project that i have to shut of the fan in a server room. I have installed the fire alarm. The fan have a current of 230V coming from the distribution board.Can you tell me a way to do it thru relays. Thank you
Can't really get a smaller magnet the door closer is on its lowest power setting so it's not too bad door will hopefully eventually be replaced with something heavier
@@nics-systems-electric yeah be cool to see you put a fire door there.. maybe even a metal frame and some panic hardware? You did mention in another video that you plan to move downstairs.. where you thinking something like your own apartment down there since it has its own kitchen and such?
@@RossTheGenMan it would be hard to do a metal frame as these doors are hung right into the framework of the wall they are not a prehung door but you could install a heavier door I do now live in the basement yes
Here a question maybe you know my screws I have here I am getting ready to install smoke alarms it say I have drywall screws should it work in plaster interchangeably thoughts please thank you
Hi Nick got a question for you I don't know if you will no the answer but thought I would ask the question just in case you do I was talking to an engineer he thinks the reason that a smoke alarm i sae was installed on a side wall above a door way even though the cieling seemed to be 20 feet above the alarm is that if the alarm goes of it would shut the which seemed to go to a hall way that had the standard 8-10 foot ceiling? Thoughts please thank you?
so that might explain than why the alarm was right over the doorway I think it was panic bar door but the celing still seemed 20 feet high so I guess the final answer is while that might be ok for commerical application in my home I should still follow the fire alarm code directions which state the lowest the top of the alarm can be is 12 inches from the ceiling does that yeah my local codes says the top of the alarm is to be 12 inches you are in a different country from me so I dont understand the difference but again I will say maybe this thing I say was right for a commerical property but your advice would be to follw the direction which came with my smoke alarm which will be based on the local code of the country is that correct thank you !
Your videos are great it give people a grater appreciation it seems as to how much effort it takes to design fire alarm I have a friend who is a fire protection engineer he is on a code committee in another country he does not have time to make videos explain how the systems work the way you did
@@nics-systems-electric i MEAN WHAT IF THE DOOR IS NOT FULLY OPEN ONLY HALF THE ALARM IS STILL WORK IF NOT WHAT IS THE ALTERNATIVE DEVICE TO USE IN THAT SITUATION
@@nics-systems-electric putting that much effort into a commercial grade fire alarm system in a residential setting, you might as well go all the way and have actual fire suppression systems and use fireproof doors
I WAS try to do more research and may be you can tell me if you agree with this : it seems after doing more research it seem the conclusion is that it's possible the way codes are used in a commercial application may not match the same way alarm s are meant to be used in the home sound right ? Thoughts please thank you
@@nics-systems-electric thank you so your advice to me would be install my smoke alarm follwing the instructions provided by the alarm is that correct thank you ????
It's nothing to do with the duct detector specifically any alarm condition will shut it down unless it was to be programmed for specific devices. it resets as soon as the system is reset the relay module will go back to normal operation.
Great Job!!! Nic you will help your generation get better @ saving others You could have ran a low voltage supervised output off that fire panel 24VDC is safer in the long run
Thank you. The problem with using an output of the system is you are then increasing your battery demand. When there is no point of having a supervised output because it's a fail safe device so it doesn't make it any safer.
@@nics-systems-electricOh Contre!!! Nic current limited devices and voltages are inherently safe !!! And I'm sure you had . 015 amps in the power budget
@@thinkIndependent2024 The breaker is a current limiting device with wire sized appropriately there isn't a problem. The problem with running it off your panel is one short circuit instead of tripping a resettable breaker can kill your whole entire fire alarm system depending what you power it off of.
@@nics-systems-electric Still me Nic, You respond before actually thinking!! The term: "Inherently Safe" has a meaning that is not the same as "convenient " the term actually has legal significance with technical roots
@@davidjackson7887 yes I am aware. That's a pretty rude comment to say that someone doesn't think before they speak when you have no way of knowing if I thought about something or not when of course I think to answer comments. there is no problem with this install it is done to code and the same as almost every other install and is completely safe.
With my school we have fire doors to the stair wells top and bottom and the classrooms have door holder/ closer but the dumb thing is the classroom door aren’t fire rated
@@nics-systems-electric I know we don’t have smokes in classrooms they don’t have any strobes out side they have exit signs some black combos some led some white some gray and black the fire alarm system was installed 2004 the 2023 in spation says it has 9 more years it’s simplex it’s wonky
I was expecting Jackson to start freaking out when the annunciator started beeping lol
Wow I just found your channel but this is insanely cool! Makes me want to get back into engineering so I can learn how to do stuff like this. Ive been watching you generator videos. Much better setup than just buying a Generac standby or a cummins.
Thank you I'm glad you enjoy
@@nics-systems-electricHello Nick great video really informative. I have a project that i have to shut of the fan in a server room. I have installed the fire alarm. The fan have a current of 230V coming from the distribution board.Can you tell me a way to do it thru relays. Thank you
Hey nic are you going to do to new Year sounding coming up?
Maybe
Nick, are you gonna be doing a New Year’s sound tonight with the fire alarms
Yup
Love the video, love what you have done with the fire alarm.
Thank you
This is a joke: Next video “I put a tornado siren on my home fire alarm system”
Nic will u be doing a new year set all the alarm off
Yeah I might
@@nics-systems-electric can u put the fire alarm system in both house and garage on Continuous
@@ministrygreene2556 I won't be setting off either real system those ones aren't one that get messed around with. I will be doing a demo system with a bunch of devices
@@nics-systems-electricbet
Commercial smoke detectors are better because I think they work better, also I learned that they don't make noise themselves like residential ones do. I wish I had a commercial fire alarm system, but that would be too much work.
I’ve watched your channel since you only had 2k subscribers
back when I was younger, I worked in a rest home as a NRNA, and we had a large storm during the day, and a power failure one time, and the backup gen didn't kick in. it was aery hearing the alarms going off, being in relative darkness, and the fire doors rhythmically slamming shut. the Maint man was pulling his hair out trying to get the backup going. it was an older facility, probably built in the 1950's. and they had a backup gen. probably of the same era ,that was really persnickety sometimes. I went past it many years later and it is now an Alzheimer's.facility.I assume they did some major upgrades since I worked there.
I wonder what the real estate listing for this house will include if it ever sells.. “Commercial fire alarm system installed”
Keep up the amazing content and work! I watch ervery Single one of your Videos.
Thank you
Dang I’m the 4th Person to comment
Do you have a link to the duct that you used. Similar duct we use in Aus dosent hinge and dosnt have that doubled sided tape on it, that stuff that youre using looks so much easier to install.
Now we all know the notifier password: 11111
factory default is five or eight ones depending on panel
Happy new years
Are you going to make a video on fixing the relay?
Fixing what relay? As I demonstrated at the end of the video the door and HVAC shutdown works fine nothing wrong with it.
Hello
Is your system monitored and can it talk?
Self monitored residential firearm systems can't be monitored here other than you receiving an email/text message
Nice one Nic vid but can u still close the door when the magnet is powered?
Yeah you just pull it off the magnet and let it close
@@nics-systems-electric cool at least is not so strong and doesn't let go
replace that door man
As I said I'd like to one day
You’re so amazing at what you do
Thank you
Your lucky your parents let you do all this to your house
5th person to comment
I have never been early on one of your videos
Is your home system monitored?
Just self monitored
Really good video
very cool
Can you do video of installing all the new lights? Edit will the door closer let go when power goes out like the one in your shed?
Yes it will. The door holder latches to the door via magnet. When you give it power it will latch on when there's no power it will not latch. So when there is a power outage the magnet will loose its power therefor letting go of the door.
Are your linemans VDE? I notice your screwdrivers are. 😊
No they are not only one set of the screwdrivers are the rest are not or I've just got tape around them to make them safer
@@nics-systems-electric I'm not an electrician but do bits around the house and I'm always super jumpy about using none-VDE tools - even when I KNOW the circuit is off/LOTO'd. I saw your linemans and wondered. Love your work - keep it up! 👍😊
@@Rainbowhockey even the non-insulated tools usually are still insulated if you just hold them in the right place lol just not actually tested and listed for it
Nic how much volts does an announcer take?
24 plus a ACS or terminal connection for communication
You've wasted your time! That door is not air tight. Hence, smoke can get through gabs!!!
Not airtight but still makes a huge difference same reason it said that it's a good idea to keep your bedroom doors closed at night even though those aren't airtight either
Nice work! I like it!
i love the nfg on the side of the bad magnet 😂
In America we call them wall anchors, instead of zip its.
Anchors are their own thing that widen when the screw is installed zip it self thread in to the wall and then don't get any wider once a fastener is installed
22:06 That hose on the floor, do you have central vacuum or something?
Yes
Is it possible to install something to shut off dryers for when the fire alarm activates?
Not sure what application you would need that but you may be able to do it with a contactor and relay module
Great Job Man. Nice Work !
Thank you I appreciate it
Nice!
Hell Nick great video really informative. I have a project that i have to shut of the fan in a server room. I have installed the fire alarm. The fan have a current of 230V coming from the distribution board.Can you tell me a way to do it thru relays. Thank you
Wow I like your video!
I'm 36, and I want to be like you when I grow up. Man, I wish I was able to do everything you do.
Cool to see your mom (I assume?) wanting to pull the alarm. That big ole door closer and magnet latch looks so huge on that small little door.
Can't really get a smaller magnet the door closer is on its lowest power setting so it's not too bad door will hopefully eventually be replaced with something heavier
@@nics-systems-electric yeah be cool to see you put a fire door there.. maybe even a metal frame and some panic hardware? You did mention in another video that you plan to move downstairs.. where you thinking something like your own apartment down there since it has its own kitchen and such?
@@RossTheGenMan it would be hard to do a metal frame as these doors are hung right into the framework of the wall they are not a prehung door but you could install a heavier door I do now live in the basement yes
looks good have a good day : )
Thank you
Commercial system in house ? If I understood how to do electric I probably would have tired it my self already!
Here a question maybe you know my screws I have here I am getting ready to install smoke alarms it say I have drywall screws should it work in plaster interchangeably thoughts please thank you
Yes I like the self drilling anchors personally I find they hold best but for a smoke alarm anything should be fine
Hi Nick got a question for you I don't know if you will no the answer but thought I would ask the question just in case you do I was talking to an engineer he thinks the reason that a smoke alarm i sae was installed on a side wall above a door way even though the cieling seemed to be 20 feet above the alarm is that if the alarm goes of it would shut the which seemed to go to a hall way that had the standard 8-10 foot ceiling? Thoughts please thank you?
I think they sometimes need to be within not only a horizontal distance to the door but sometimes vertical as well
so that might explain than why the alarm was right over the doorway I think it was panic bar door but the celing still seemed 20 feet high so I guess the final answer is while that might be ok for commerical application in my home I should still follow the fire alarm code directions which state the lowest the top of the alarm can be is 12 inches from the ceiling does that yeah my local codes says the top of the alarm is to be 12 inches you are in a different country from me so I dont understand the difference but again I will say maybe this thing I say was right for a commerical property but your advice would be to follw the direction which came with my smoke alarm which will be based on the local code of the country is that correct thank you !
I always love watching Nic, he is motivating for me! Good work as always!
Do you plan on adding security cameras in your home like you have in your garage?, they are always good to have just incase they are needed
Your videos are great it give people a grater appreciation it seems as to how much effort it takes to design fire alarm I have a friend who is a fire protection engineer he is on a code committee in another country he does not have time to make videos explain how the systems work the way you did
Just subscribedon't will look forward to future videos
Thanks I appreciate it
what if the person not open the doon maximumly the alarm is working ?
I don't know what you mean
@@nics-systems-electric i MEAN WHAT IF THE DOOR IS NOT FULLY OPEN ONLY HALF THE ALARM IS STILL WORK IF NOT WHAT IS THE ALTERNATIVE DEVICE TO USE IN THAT SITUATION
@@bryansolis2251 if the door is halfway open it won't be held open in the first place and it will just shut
Well if u put that much effort into it, how come theres no sprinkler system?
I didn't put effort into sprinkler system so I'm not sure what you mean. There is no sprinkler system would be too destructive.
@@nics-systems-electric putting that much effort into a commercial grade fire alarm system in a residential setting, you might as well go all the way and have actual fire suppression systems and use fireproof doors
@@hllboi817 as I said a sprinkler system would be very destructive fire alarm system and electrical can be retrofitted with very little damage
Now time for a real fire door
Wouldn't really give much more when the whole wall isn't a fire rated separation
I WAS try to do more research and may be you can tell me if you agree with this : it seems after doing more research it seem the conclusion is that it's possible the way codes are used in a commercial application may not match the same way alarm s are meant to be used in the home sound right ? Thoughts please thank you
Commercial has much strict codes then residential due to the higher occupancy
Thank you for your response s
@@nics-systems-electric thank you so your advice to me would be install my smoke alarm follwing the instructions provided by the alarm is that correct thank you ????
What are you doing for New Year’s tomorrow
how do you turn the HVAC system back on after the duct detector has been set off?
It's nothing to do with the duct detector specifically any alarm condition will shut it down unless it was to be programmed for specific devices. it resets as soon as the system is reset the relay module will go back to normal operation.
@@nics-systems-electric but dose the front of detector pop off therefore triggering the alarm
@@LiamFaulk no only mechanical heat detectors will pop the disc if it activates on fixed temperature
@@nics-systems-electric ok thanks
Great Job!!! Nic you will help your generation get better @ saving others
You could have ran a low voltage supervised output off that fire panel 24VDC is safer in the long run
Thank you. The problem with using an output of the system is you are then increasing your battery demand. When there is no point of having a supervised output because it's a fail safe device so it doesn't make it any safer.
@@nics-systems-electricOh Contre!!! Nic current limited devices and voltages are inherently safe !!! And I'm sure you had
. 015 amps in the power budget
@@thinkIndependent2024 The breaker is a current limiting device with wire sized appropriately there isn't a problem. The problem with running it off your panel is one short circuit instead of tripping a resettable breaker can kill your whole entire fire alarm system depending what you power it off of.
@@nics-systems-electric Still me Nic, You respond before actually thinking!!
The term: "Inherently Safe" has a meaning that is not the same as "convenient " the term actually has legal significance with technical roots
@@davidjackson7887 yes I am aware. That's a pretty rude comment to say that someone doesn't think before they speak when you have no way of knowing if I thought about something or not when of course I think to answer comments. there is no problem with this install it is done to code and the same as almost every other install and is completely safe.
With my school we have fire doors to the stair wells top and bottom and the classrooms have door holder/ closer but the dumb thing is the classroom door aren’t fire rated
That doesn't make a lot of sense
@@nics-systems-electric I know we don’t have smokes in classrooms they don’t have any strobes out side they have exit signs some black combos some led some white some gray and black the fire alarm system was installed 2004 the 2023 in spation says it has 9 more years it’s simplex it’s wonky
@@FireAlarmGuy-8090 usually any electrically held open fire door has to have a smoke on either side of it
@@nics-systems-electric ok.
@@nics-systems-electric just found out in 2019 a kid Wote a inappropriate message that the stafff started an a avestagiton
If y'all ever go to sell that house, the buyers are gonna wonder who the hell owned it before with all these cool things installed lol
Houses are worth way too much here it would never be sold luckily as there is too much stuff to try and remove
It less decorations
When fire the door holder will automatically close door?
Yes the door will close upon fire alarm activation
@@nics-systems-electric we still can open the door?
@@Honekawasuneo646 yup