The Situation with Mumbai Indians in IPL 2024
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- So much is happening around the Mumbai Indians in this year's IPL. I thought I would look at it through the eyes of the five main actors in the situation. What do you make of it? Love to hear your thoughts in the comments section.
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Biggest reason for dislike Hardik : he hardly plays for India !! . This guy has never missed IPL , only India
Hardik can play ipl without bowling but he cannot play for India without bowling, I remember 2021 T20 world Cup he not bowling after he can't find place in India team without bowling so please, if you don't no about cricket please don't talk cricket
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That doesn't mean you can assassinate his character, he hasn't done anything illicit to be treated like this. Any corporate employee demands something, when does the employee get this kind of treatment? This is 2024 and people are acting like buffoons
If anything, then it's the central contract that should be tweaked, hardik pandya can't be in grade A without playing test matches and being available for at least 50% of ICT matches
hardly plays for india? Do you even watch cricket?
He was the only player who gave us a small chance in the champions trophy 2017 final.. Won that key last over against bangladesh in icc t20(effective knockout) , pretty much the only guy who performed last year t20 semi final against england.. and the big knocks against pakistan in asia cup , ..even being the key reason behind winning the t20 series in australia few years ago. All this just at the top of my mind.. I understand people dont like his attitude etc.. but he has played some absolutely stellar innings for India. Fans like you have short term memory and it sucks to see that.
He's getting booed because he talked ill of MI for the 2 years he wasn't in MI, doesn't respect his teammates, hasn't done due diligence with Ro, Bumrah, sky. He also said the working of MI team and management is not something he is a fan of. Then why would you want to come back in the same set up?
Also the fact that Rohit was removed from captaincy when he was probably in the darkest time of his life after losing the World Cup final. Not to mention, him getting removed from captaincy put a question mark on his T20WC selection. It's baffling why would a management put the player who is responsible for the only success they have through this.
When did he talk ill? He said mumbai has the best players whereas chennai has the environment to bring out the best in players. Whats wrong in that? Every intelligent cricket fan realises that it is true. You can argue that he shouldnt have said that.. but it was certainly true
It's true brother.nov19 2023 is probably the saddest and toughest night sleep of my life😢😢😢😢😢😢. It still hurts very badly.
@@1729krish if Mumbai gets players in auction who turn out to be greats, how is that equivalent to Mumbai buying "the bestest people they can" according to hardik's own words? Bumrah, hardik, krunal they were uncapped when mi got them. It's the hypocrisy of hating the system which has given you everything and lying along with it just because you weren't retained by them.
@@1729krishYou might think of yourself as an Intelligent cricket fan but you are not.
@@1729krish Then clearly ur not intelligent
3 Cheers to Indian and MI Fans 👍👏for teaching a harsh lesson to Hardik🤮, Owners and Management for taking the Indian fans for granted..The Owners thought that even the fans are their puppets just like other Film personalities, Celebrities.. Disrespecting an Indian Captain by a Franchisee will not be tolerated.Hope this incident teaches a lesson to other owners and teams and they accept that a Fan's emotions and voice needs to be heard and respected..👍
True brother, well said👍👍👍👍
That doesn’t mean that people should abuse him and his family. It’s not right. When have we turned from humans to animals?
Criticise the person on his performance but don’t make it personal.
@@nitinyadav1707 No one is abusing this Lafange Pandya ki family ko..ok.. So stop this shit Family drama and all..Yeh Cricketers khud maa behen ki gaali dete hai on the field..Fans are far more decent than Cricketers nowadays..
@@viansingh1825 fans are useless
Completely agree
I think the most important point is being overlooked as if it was trivial. Pandya gave interviews in which he was clear about how MI team was built with "best players" to win the cups. He had this mindset, most likely he left MI or auctioned away to a new team so he can be a captain. Whether one is privy to the conditions for his return or not, it is quite evident what he has done to lead MI. Sure management might've thought of a successor, but there is SKY and Burma within MI team to take on the baton from Rohit. None of this happened. Rohit was unceremoniously removed via a post. If IPL teams are making money off of fans, (directly and indirectly) fans have every right to express their displeasure towards the decisions made. Sure, if one gets a better offer, one should take it. But doesn't mean that other will just be fine with it. Everyone will express the displeasure. People will call names and boo (one way or the other), even in corporate world. Pandya made a choice, now he is facing consequences. I think commentators have little right to ask fans to "behave" by any means. What is IPL without fans? where is the money coming from? sponsorships, media rights, advertising: all these are because of fans. If no one cares, there is not money. No money, no franchises. As simple as that. No matter what Pandya does, he will see the reactions from fans for his actions.
I genuinely think Pandya should begin with getting rid of that fake grin he puts on when the team is getting pulverised. People can see through the BS. We know what's a Williamson-esque wry smile and what's a stupid grin pretending to be a maverick in the face of adversity.
Well said. He puts on a show, and that is just fake and insincere.
Bish please he's always been like that
you need to learn about diplomacy
I don't think he's pretending. He believes he is. I'm not a fan of him, but this is not such a big deal. He does put up a fight in tough situations like in one of the early matches in WC 2023.
Not everyone can become Dhoni. Looking to be Cool vs being cool (and yet knows what next to do) is a whole different world..
I am from Chennai, and a CSK fan,, But i dont see any sense in demoting Hit man from captaincy and making Hardik as MI captain. Rohit won 5 IPL Trophies to MI. The way in which Rohit was demoted just to bring back Hardik to MI franchise is insane. I know its not entirely Hardiks fault. But the Boos from the audience is not only for Hardik, its for entire MI management
Exactly 💯
Also Hardik's comments (throwing shade) on MI after he left for GT is talked about enough.
Yes brother, absolutely true. Not the way you treat a great player like Rohit who gave you 5titles, shame on mi management
Yellow my foot
Like ur non playing captain always scores in LOST CAUSE
@@dr.harshamssportsrehab.9151 I expect better interpreting ability from a person who calls himself a doctor.
Who said anything about MS's batting in the comments?
While I totally buy into your premises, what’s lost is RESPECT, Harsha and this is just my perspective.
1) Hardik Pandya could have said, “Look. I will be back to MI. But make me Captain in the next cycle. Let me first gain RESPECT from the team and then take over. I know SKY and JB were prospects when I left to GT. But let me break the ice. Rohit is just too huge to just strip him of Captaincy. Let's Respect him.”
2) Management could have said, “Yes. We agree Hardik. Thats classy! @Rohit - We respect you a lot for what you are and what you have done to franchisee but we are looking at succession. So we had to bring HP back. Groom Pandya this year. Let him take it forward from next year. Just be there for him and RESPECT his decisions. Btw, just go Blast the opponents as opener.” I am sure he would have agreed.
3) Fans should have been informed “We want to give Rohit a final send off only as a Captain. Let us Support him. Let’s RESPECT his legacy”. I would have gladly come to stadiums fully in support of the decision.
4) To SKY & JB before signing deal with HK - “We understand your situation and completely RESPECT your importance to this team. But, let’s build a team with your 2 as pivots. We want you all as One Family. You guys are irreplaceable and we RESPECT that. RESPECT each other and build on the legacy he’s leaving behind with Hardik.”
Was this novice level communication that hard? Given how things are unfolding, I am sure the management has not done any communication whatsoever. It looks like a one night decision.
Look what CSK did. They rolled back the Jaddu decision halfway through the season. Created a Succession plan with captaincy sessions / workshops for a whole season or so. Dhoni informed Rutu that you might have to take over anytime. Then Dhoni did a Dhoni. He gave Rutu the Captaincy just before the first match with him still being there for guidance. Now, even if CSK do not make for Playoffs, their fans are a happy bunch. This season is more about Dhoni’s final season and less about them defending the Championship! Ask their fans. They lost to DC and yet their fans reactions are a blockbuster. They just want to celebrate THE MAN. THE MYTH. THE LEGEND this season and get to business from the next cycle. How hard was that?
For booing HK. Yes, thats wrong, but how do we communicate to management or players that we are not with you on your decision? We do appreciate when things you do right comes off, don't we? Example, when Bhajji was appointed Captain, we were happy. Did we boo him? Today's the happenings are way worse than a high school drama! One day, We get rumours that Hardik is back and we were happy bunch.. Next day it happens but they remove a guy who created a legacy, which other franchises are just drooling over! To remove Rohit as Captain is when it hit the nerve with us fans. I am not for fan wars. But booing is just our way of saying to MANAGEMENT you are wrong on this.
“Its the AIR that we breath is the problem” once you said, Harsha, in an interview to Ashwin referring to the dark times in Indian Cricket. I think the AIR is not healthy in MI dressing room.
On that note, I take the 3 loss as a huge positive. It’s going to get the dressing room together and say “Come on! We are not that bad a team! Come what may, we are going to do better!” I see all 4 ( SKY included ) to come back stronger. The loss hurts the players more than fans. Sure it would create a communication between the seniors and lead to harmony in dressing room. What the management has not done, I would like to think these 3 losses would do.. HEAL.. #PeaceOut
Beautifully articulated
Well said!! Are u a communication guru?😊
Woooaahhh😊😅
Gosh thats a good comment!
Very well said 👍. Points 2 and 3 are perfect statements which fans might have expected from mi management but not to be. Hopefully next year they will have better plans about captaincy and players.
I think the main issue is the way the announcement of Hardiks captaincy was done by the MI management. The hand over clearly wasn't well communicated. Had there been a press conference with Rohit, Hardik and the management present with reasons being shared, I'm sure the fans wouldn't react like they have right now. While I would never boo a sportsman, I understand the fans sentiments. In franchise cricket, like the premiere league, the fans are much closer to the teams emotionally and the team belongs to them as much as it does to the owners. So when the fans are taken for granted, they will let their voices be heard. Its unfortunate that Hardik is at the receiving end of a problem clearly created by the Management due to its poor communication.
Superb answer and very explained
I wholeheartedly agree.Very well put together.
Very well put together. Absolutely agree.
2:33 Harsha are you on a paid PR to salvage MI and HP ?! Your ceo argument doesn't hold much water . The Junior doesn't come back to usurp the position of his ex boss especially when he is also representing the country
Yes he was paid...
Very well said!! I was thinking on similar lines 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Well said!! Never disliked Harsha's opinion but, the way he thinks that misogynistic, selfish, rude, dickhead guy has no fault, then he is completely wrong.
Couldn't agree more. Harsha Bhogle does not have the balls to take on Ambani. Hence the smirk and the corporate spin.
Why cant the junior come back . If you were in a situation where your ex organisation calls you and you demand your senior job u will also accept the offer
You r lying Harsha..!
Reason y Hardik Pandya is booed is very easy to see ..!
And don't blame the fans..!
The Management n Hardik had big role to what n why they are facing all this ...!
U r right
Yes he is misleading people with wrong corporate analogy.
Andh bhakts spotted
MI announced Hardik Pandya as captain on December 15, 2023. The World Cup final was played on November 19. Anybody who has worked in corporate knows that such major decisions and negotiations take much more than four weeks. Even in the IPL curtain raiser at cricbuzz, Harsha alluded to that fact that conversations must have began before the world cup.
This idea that Hardik did nothing wrong is absolutely ridiculous. Hardik put his own personal ambitions over respect for the Indian Cricket Team and fans in a World Cup year, why now should we be expected to forgive him as a ICT player? I don't agree with the personal abuse for his family members, but we reserve the right to respect and admire players based on their on-field and off-field actions. We are fans, not customers. The BCCI doesn't care for us, but we have the full right to expect better from our players.
Harsha, if you try honestly, you can see the reasons why fans are angry with Hardik Pandya.
1. GT fans for obvious reasons feel betrayed.
2. MI and Rohit fans feel that their very successful, loyal and illustrious captain was disrespected. Hardik should have foreseen this and how this would be perceived by MI fans, given Hardik was nurtured and flourished under Rohit.
3. Hardik going above Bumrah & SKY in the pecking order and compensation.
4. Hardik's fake demeanour and if off-field antics haven't resonated with fans which adds to the dislike amongst fans.
I agree that the MI management is to blame much more than Hardik, and a lot of this could have been avoided if they had managed & communicated this transition better.
you are missing the angle where he commented against MI last year and Rohit defended MI. That's where fans are agitated that management made same person their captain
When the press asked about the captaincy change
They didn't reply properly
Because of that only all of this mess
Yess and Ritika's comment on that viral reel also sparks the controversy
Here's what I find ridiculous. Hardik didn't have a heart to heart talk with Rohit, Bumrah and SKY before the tournament started. Clear the air, be honest, listen then move on.
I've been in a situation where I was made manager of a team where other ppl applied for my role. My 1st job was to win them over, get them on my side. Everything else is 2nd.
Exactly. I think Harsha is too scared to talk about that, he knows that Hardik could have handled the situation better , instead he blames the fans for rightfully getting angry over this entire drama. For Harsha everyone is right except the fans.
I feel this is a job of MI Management over Hardik. Sure, he could have, but MI Management definitely should have. Especially with a captain that won them 5 titles, and two other players who are arguably their lynchpins in bowling and batting. Mahela Jayawardene's response to the outrage after the captaincy change pretty much shows that they had no clue about the emotions involved.
Brother to have that , one has to have education, culture, common sense and fortitude. Hardik Pandya I feel at times shows lack of these qualities , remember the Karan Johar show where he spoke nonsense and got KL Rahul into trouble as well.
@@rajprem3284 Yeah he certainly does not have them.
was it hardik's responsibility or management's?
Sir, another important point is, Bumrah was announced vice-captain by MI management before the 2022 season. Was this succession plan conveyed to him by the MI management? I mean what's the point of announcing someone as VC when he is never to be appointed as a future captain? Surely, he cannot be a stand-in captain forever for MI, getting to lead the team only when the captain isn't playing.
It's fascinating that how much a captain can affect the team . This MI team is better and more complete than last year's team and somehow this performance doesn't feel right .
Mind my words mi will be in playoffs. 👍😊
Jab usne first' company leave kii tab us company koo usnee bahut kuch bola superstars and all then he disrespected the ceo of previous company many time. And the well wishers of the company (fans) weren't happy at all.Then he joined his previous company as ceo replacing old one jisne company top pe pochai. Ab well wishers ghussa karenge ya nhi aap hi batao Harsha bhau😊
Pandya Behaviour is not Good......Where as HitMan is Gold.....
Hardik getting booed is totally justified. He first left the franchise because they didn`t make him captain. To think of doing this to the franchise and to the captain who literally mentored you when you were nothing, is obnoxious! Then he talked shit about MI when he was in GT. Players join other franchises all the time, but in what world is this okay? Then he has the guts to join MI with a captaincy clause, uprooting Rohit Sharma. Yes, MI management is at fault too, but he should have been the one to reject it if he was doing fine in GT(because of Nehra ji imo). If it`s about ambition of being captain why not stay in GT? Rohit gave them 5 ipl tropies, nothing can justify the decision of sacking him.
Harsha, It isn't about what wrong has he done.. It is about the How is he conducting himself on d ground. Trust me if he is humble on the ground, half of the hatred from fans will go away..
His arrogance on field is the main reason for increasing hatred against Hardik
Getting Hardik Pandya back to MI and making him captain next year would have been perfect. The management messed up big time. This will affect the T20 world cup as well.
I believe the perspective of MI fans comes from having witnessed the handling of Dhoni by their rival franchise CSK. For a captain who's had as much success, CSK management was so respectful that they left it entirely to Dhoni to make his own decision on his captaincy career and also plan for the franchise's succession. So obviously, considering the similarity in legacy created by Rohit, their fans thought that MI would do the same thing but instead MI went for Hardik all of a sudden which has now resulted in this disgruntlement.
But the thing is I never understood why they felt the need for Hardik in the first place. It wasn't like there were no all-rounders or that the team was unbalanced. Green was coming off nicely enjoying himself on the flat and bouncy Wankhede which was to his liking, tilak was establishing himself steadfastly as well. Also, it wasn't like there was no one else on the team who was leadership material with worthy candidates in Bumrah and SKY.
Honestly, it would've been a lot easier for them if they had left things as is, let Rohit continue, and let things take their natural course.
All in all, a huge blunder by the MI management.
Exactly my opinion brother. I never thought MI owners will make such a stupid big mistake
Everyone has a succession plan, but no one ever executed it like MI. Stop being a PR for Hardik. Hardik and mi management deserves more hate unless they come out clean with a press meet clearing the air.
Possible Reasons:
1. The way Hardik spoke about MI when he was in GT
2. Hardik is local boy from Gujarat but still left them
3. Hardik's general way of behaviour which is not similar to all previous MI captains.
4. Hardik is not getting any promotion w.r.t position. It's only about money
5. People don't get chance to boo management much. So, they that also on Hardik. SKY and Bumrah could have been captains
100%
Harsha man...u are a good person.... don't tarnish your own image pls.pls.
Don't want you to be booed as well 😏
It's the blunder decision of century
We are missing one thing, people are not boooo to Hardik as batsman, watch when he got six everyone was cheering,fans only booing when he is doing his duty as captain
Think both you and Ashwin are playing it too "politically correct" here. Your corporate analogy of accepting promotion is little misleading. Even in corporate world, a popular leader being replaced by ex-team member will cause friction amongst teams and eventual restructuring. Communication is key element missing here.
I am a CSK fan myself so won't try to justify this from MI fan standpoint. The issue I see is not why Hardik became MI captain but the way he was made a captain. As a franchise, you either have a responsibility to your fans or not. MI fans had been loyal and the brutal way Rohit was ejected was insulting to the fans who love the team. Boucher+Pandya press conference "silence" only added fuel to this fire. What MI has decided is to sacrifice a huge fan base , which in management terms is not too smart.
None of this would have happened if the communication was set right where Rohit was requested to hand off the captaincy gracefully to Pandya just like what Dhoni decided to do with Ruturaj. Here CSK fans knew where this decision was coming from. What Hardik is facing is "side-effects" of poor management and communication from MI -- that's a fan's right.
What experts don't know is the respect or lack of it that MI fans perennially had for Pandya bros when they were in the MI team previously, all due to their attitude and behavior (while piggybacking on performances of Pollard, SKY, and Bumrah). Check out the 2020, and 2021 trends. Fans who have much more respect for Bumrah and Sky, and would have happily accepted them as Captain.
No issues in joining back the old franchise or company but I am very sure MI management (except newcomer Boucher) mustn't be the one asking Hardik to lead after MI (after finishing 3rd under Rohit). But looks like Hardik was ambitious and eager to snatch the captaincy (Rishte mein to hum captain etc) this year itself. He overestimated himself and discounted the contributions of Nehra ji, Kristen ji, Rashid, Gill, etc. in GT success.
No doubt his PR is 100 times better than MS, Virat, or Rohit (players with whom he cannot be compared at least for now) but his acts show that he has zero respect for peers or seniors
Harsha is a Peacemaker so he wont question the Team Management why they didnt discuss properly with Rohit and why they are silent spectators of all these drama. If they dont want Rohit let them release him he would have joined another franchise or else even retire. Even now amidst all confusion, we see CSK fans welcoming Rohit and even RCB or other fans too all love Rohit since he is selfless and only he will be accepted by the fans as next generation SACHIN. Harsha must also talk how Hardik misbehaved with almost everyone and his immature laughing after losing a game is unpardonable for any die-hard MI fan that too at Wankhede.
All MI fans want is Rohit sir should get the respect that he deserves, I am not saying everything should be goody goody but that guy deserves utmost respect from franchise and players(especially hardik pandya sir)
The key element that acted as catalyst to all of this was the interview where Hardik bashed the MI management and everyone else involved with it. Be it Rohit himself or the players that got scouted like Jasprit Bumrah or Pandya Brothers and many more . Now, how will Hardik lead these people, Staff who were scrutinized for Team management, Bumrah & Surya who had Aspirations to be future of the team and then young players who were scouted and given wings by Rohit .
I feel, Mumbai Indians are going through a phase which once KKR went through when they dropped Sourav Ganguly in 2011.
Lol have some shame, yesterday paid tweets today paid videos
Talking about last 3 seasons
Picking Jofra archer isn't management call?
Last 3 years mi didn't win cup because of really bad auction. Choosing kishan over a combination of dekock and boult, going for jofra instead of shami bhivi etc. still last year Rohit did a fantastic job in making MI third best team even without boom
Sir, Sachin should come out and talk to fans. That’s the only way public will calm down
If you think that the mindless crowd will stop after that, then you are either naive or innocent
Then even sachin might get booed
@@TheThakur007 bro, no crowd in India will boo Sachin.
@@OriginalMathew wankhede booed sachin in 2006! Useless crowd at wankhede
@@OriginalMathewSachin has already been booed in India and has effigies of him burnt.
MI underestimated Rohit. They thought it will be easy to change captain. But things is going opposite Massive fans will never forgive Pandya ❤❤❤❤
Beautifully summarized. If we can take the liberty of the social media to only spread the contents of this video and reach out to all the 5 stakeholders mentioned here, it would be a different Mumbai Indians that we will get to see from tomorrow.
The comparison with corporate switching is not exact. Teams have fan-base. Companies do not have fan-base, and profit is enough for them.
Also, if a key player shuffling between sides for profit is okay, what's wrong if the fan-base also re-thinks their loyalty?
Why not make Bumrah - the long-term captain for Mumbai Indians?
Backed by MI and retained multiple times.
Performed when mattered
Better fitness compared to Pandya!
Has 4-6 years ahead!
Comparing this cricket incident with the corporate offer is totally different. This is a bizarre situation as a lot of emotion from fans and players is involved here. Rohit doesn't deserve what he got. Hardik doesn't deserve what he is getting now. Management clearly messed it up and Hardik's choice is not convincing. He is already head of Titans and he will be seen as a greater captain if he wins there again than if he wins with stacked players at Mumbai.
Hi Sir, As Indian cricket lover, everyone loves Hardik. But it is IPL. And how the changes of captain happened. If the change of captain was announced by Rohit like how it was done at CSK this year. Management informed that it was Dhoni's decision not Management. that kind of words, makes the fans to accept..Also in press meet, Hardik and coach were silent when questions were asked
I think ignoring fans in franchise cricket is a big blunder!
Harsha, this is very different from an IT company switch. The difference is the customer impact. This is more close to killing a favourite and working product after acquiring another product.
You are missing the main point. Everything you say, makes sense on paper. But that’s not the reality. Hardik Pandya has publicly made statements against MI and went there only out of greed. If Rohit to Hardik transition was smooth, Rohit should have posted something about it. The fact that Rohit is mum goes to show that he was not in agreement. The franchise prioritizing ‘successive planning’ over what their 5 time winning champion wants and what their fans want, has resulted in what all of us knew would happen - Chaos!!!
"We don't know what the conversation may have been about" It's all quite speculative, isn't it?
1. What is definitive is Pandya's lack of loyalty to GT (irrelevant of the big bucks that would have been offered, the man is already loaded with fame & money) The corporate culture analogy doesn't fit here as you don't have 1000s of fans cheering/supporting a CEO/Junior Mgr. when he changes companies wherein its a purely monetary/benefits/comforts choice.
By choosing to leave GT, he's already declared himself as some who can be swayed by money, which necessarily isn't a virtue you want to see in some1 who's gonna step into Rohit Sharma's shoes.
2. His 2023 interview where he subtly denigrates MI (for buying Champion players) unlike CSK for creating the right atmosphere, which is apparently how he prefers is and how he's made GT a great team, doesn't help his cause. He now has proven that you can't completely trust his words as well by rejoining the very same team he was demeaning. The interview itself didn't sit well with MI fans as he was essentially patronising the franchise that made his career.
3. All this combined with his inherent eccentricity & indifferent form makes him the ideal hate mongering magnet that he's evolved into. Ironically, while being emotionally fueled fans, we also have a short-sighted-results oriented memory and if MI start winning all this furore will trickle down to the sporadic tweet of dissension. He's inadvertently created a greedy, hypocritical & untrustworthy image of himself which are polarly opposite attributes of the outgoing captain Rohit Sharma.
Very well written
I think that last line hits home for me as well. Rohit comes across as a no nonsense blunt "call a spade a spade" kinda person while Hardik always seems like a pretentious, holier than thou, fake camera personality as in his words, so in his actions. The contrast couldn't have been starker.
Nope not expected this from a person who has been involved with Indian cricket for so long. "Dont have a clue why people are booing hardik" seriously ?? Dont be so naive harsha
There have been transitions in captaincy in different franchises, look at CSK for that matter, the difference is you don't pick a player from different franchises and make him the captain. Hardik should have been included in the team as a player this year and transitioned to captaincy next year at best, which again is not the right thing because you had bumrah and sky who deserve it more having played for the franchise in absence of hardik
So true. These guys, including Ravi Shastri and Sanjay Manjrekar don't understand franchise cricket. Fans are such an important part. You need to keep them on your side. Did Hardik really not know that he is backstabbing a fan favourite and will not face backlash
Clearly he is not speaking the truth here..I lost some respect for him.
@@vishalpratap5921they do understand everything..they are currently performing a task they have been told to do by their masters deep down they know the are lying.
Harsha, i know you’re close to most of the players but you’ll have to acknowledge what Hardik represents. His swagger and the persona he inculcates needs a massive amount of success to back.
Hardik has failed to deliver on the national stage and comes through as a someone who wants to make as much cash as soon as possible.
Rohit is like a big brother to the team and to a lot of youth in the country.
No wonder Hardik will get flak
Ambani may have money. But Rohit has people behind him. It's not easy to touch such a person.
Agreed with Harsha sir. Hardik is a corporate guy. If given captaincy for some other nation he would leave India.
Hey Harsha, you can't compare a company/ startup with a cricket team . It's like backstabbing in our eyes so Hardik is the most hated cricketer going around no matter how hard you try .
They cannot be compared as company do not have fans but sports team have fans and there are emotions involved.
Mumbai Indians should have learnt from CSK how they handled Dhoni and it was upto Dhoni...here they could have done better ...not unceremoniously dumped a legend like Rohit Sharma...Hardik unfortunately has to face the ire...ambition should have been packaged with courtesy.. he could have started with being VC and then Captain. And the way he has been leading the team with so many captaincy blunders...one is forced to think how big a role Ashish Nehra and Others played in the background at GT.
Franchise owners can not fool fans, no body should tell them how to "behave" and fans have all the rights to express their feelings. Fans are really upset with the way this captainship transfer saga unfolded.
Another problem with hardik is that he hardly plays in Indian jersey for last few years, so fans don't feel that same connection, compassion.
I think Harsha is missing the point here, the problem of this transfer was the mysterious and out of turn nature of it, it reeks of power play and done when the transfer window was closed
True. Disappointed that he somehow turned a very nuanced topic into "fans booing wrong"
Look , RCB fans accepted Faf without ant fuss. Why would they do that? Faf had at the time zero connection to RCB the franchise or even Bengaluru as a city, Hardik atleast had played for MI and had success but still got boeed. So what's the issue?. When the RCB transition happened it was very clearly conveyed to the fans that Virat had voluntarily stepped down for X ,Y ,Z reason and he has great relationship with faf , FANS WERE CONVINCED VIRAT WAS HAPPY WITH THE TRANSITION.
In MI's Case Fans had zero clue how Rohit felt about the transition, his wife's comment on the boucher video and skipping Questions at PCs worsened the situation. I know the franchise is not obligated to reveal anything to the fans but if Fans don't know, they will speculate and speculation takes ugly turns and unfortunately Hardik is at the wrong side of it.
When a Political leader sets an agenda or a policy , the activists that work for the leader suffer badly, the Political leader gets away harmless, in this case Hardik is the activist.
Finally someone who addressed the situation in a logical way
Thank you Harsha for being so brave and speaking truth. The people who haven't seen Indian cricket are hating on hardik who has not only been a great all-rounder for Mumbai Indians for many years, he has also made significant contributions in important matches of India.
These blind fans will never understand though.😅
The hate is mainly towards MI owners and team management. Hardik is just a symbol to show that hatred. Also hardik's last year interview speaking I'll about MI hasn't been forgotten by fans
Hey Harsha Rohit sharma is not only a popular person. I hope you still remember that he is also an outstanding player like hardik sky and bumrah
The vivid cinematic visual all painted by spoken word. Only you have that magic Thank you Harsha.
The biggest problem is MI management messed the succession planning. Every CEO that worries about succession planning, looks internally first before bringing someone from outside. There is enough talent within MI so bringing Hardik wasn’t a great decision. Moreover, if you are bringing Hardik, make him VC and ceremonial to help fans transition. Having been a fan of MI since the beginning of IPL, seen the teams ups and downs. I wish them success, no more MI fan, time to move on and support a different team
Bhogle never said why Hardick plays for India and has not missed any IPL match.Disgusting to see this man shamelessly trying to do defend the management.MI management can buy the so called cricket commrntators but not the fans
Harsha is doing PR for Hardik, very disappointed with Harsha today
He avoided captaincy clause situation smoothly
Lost some respect how him today.
Agreed, we expect better from Voice of Cricket.
The negativity coming through from MI fans towards Hardik is mainly because of non-cricketing reasons and the image which Hardik has built for himself outside the cricket field... And that negativity is the fulcrum to this whole scenario...
There is a 6th person (true Indian fans) pov. Rohit, Sky, Pandya, Bumrah all 4 were key for WC. If these guys don’t gel well what is the case for team India. Remember all 4 will be definite in playing 11 this situation in MI camp is creating nightmare for team India
Management made a mistake in bringing Hardik Pandya as a captain without any discussion with Rohit Sharma. There could have been a discussion with him and passed on the baton through him ...Players are not corporate employees they have a lot of emotions with their franchises. See Virat Kohli, Siraj for example...
Needs justice for bumrah and surya .. 1st they paid 11 cr and 7 cr respectively ..
They deserve 20+ cr at present form ..
Any team will be ready to have them for 25 cr ..
And give them captaincy .
Bumrah surely will go beyond 25cr definitely because he is much much better bowler than patcummins and starc.
Why are people just taking this as Rohit Vs Hardik Pandya. He is being booed across the country and not just in Mumbai or Gujrat. This is just a trigger, people have disliked Pandya because of his behavior for very long. He was the all rounder India was looking for and he exploited his position of power throughout his journey. We have loved the aggression from Kohli because that was backed by so much hard work and performance. Pandya on the other hand, has shown one of the worst attitudes towards the game. When we speak about players they represent Individuals but a captain represents the team, the management, the nation and lastly himself. People forgave him the last time he came on media giving crazy interviews on coffee with karan but post that there was a lot which was just tugged under the rug and now all of it is coming out. This hate is accumulated for a very long time. I agree that a few in the crowd are booing because its a trend. But if there are 100 people who followed a trend, there were thousands who genuinely are done with him.
We are also concerned as he is one of the top 3 prospects to Captain India along with Gill and Sky, is he the role model for our upcoming players ?and is he someone we look to represent India?
Lastly he right now has the perfect platform to outperform himself, pull the team back together and show the world that both on and off field he can be a better person.
I wish seniors would have told him to "Behave" when he sky rocketed to glory rather than asking the fans in the stadium.
"You reap what you sow"
The only reason , I landed on this video is to read the comments and yeah the comment section points out perfectly the serious gripe people have with - MR HARDIK PANDYA and the clueless management's absurd and ridiculous decisions.
Harsha is very much being unlike himself and evidently speaking what he has been asked to speak. If he was really being rational then he would indeed be ripping apart HP.
Comon did not expect this from Harsha. ✌️
Harsha Sir, I feel what caused the stir and discontentment among the fans was the management not communicating the reasons for such a monumental decision. Even when asked about this at a press conference to both Hardik and Boucher, both of them denied to answer that question, which seemed very ugly and gave a feeling of this decision being forced on Rohit. This is the reason for the outburst of the fans.
I like to think I am a rational MI fan. The main reason for this backlash is the manner in which it was communicated to the fans. MI Management took fans for granted. Look how Chennai handled it. The optics of MSD passing the baton to Ruturaj is better than just communicating to fans on Instagram saying "Here is your new captain." It was arrogant. So now pay the price for that arrogance! IPL is IPL because of fans, let's not forget that.
First argument is false. You are not rational 😅
Once Mumbai Indians has most fans and followers +/- CSK's Fans but over last 2 years MIs reputation, fans and following are going down. Their Management, performance etc are bad over years and removing backbone like 'Pollard' had made it worse and now hardik
Fans don't behave irrationally. They behave emotionally and in the process sometimes they become irrational.
Harsha, there are two important aspects that you perhaps missed. One of these is the media itself that wants a bout of this kind for its own progression. Secondly, the prime reason, if not the hidden contender, for this unfortunate Hardik episode is himself, who has clearly indicated self- replenishment as his priority over representing the country. Fans are not fools. They clearly see this with the Pandya brothers, and lately, the likes of Ishan and others (I remain silent here). Injury/illness has been used as a kind of armor by most of these members. The removal of Rohit from the MI captainship just coincided with the drama. The franchise owners should have phased Rohit out slowly by the next season. I would say Hardik is just facing a backlash of a lot of his self-doing again. However, Hardik is expected to play in the Indian Team as a pace all-rounder in the coming WC T20, and the fans should stop booing him and encourage him to perform better both in his cricket career as well as choice of actions off the field. Booing is not the answer for performance.
Very popular person. Seriously! This is Rohit Sharma you are talking about. You have to be very careful in choosing your degree of addressing Harsha. Rohit is Mumbai and Mumbai is Rohit. He's the man that turned this team around and made a global team.
Huge respect Harsha..❤ Perfectly conveyed and nobody else could have put this wonderfully.. No wonder why you’re considered the voice of cricket.❤❤❤
Thank you Harsha for taking those key elements into consideration and putting this jigsaw puzzle together precisely and perfectly.
The crux of what you analysed and narrated is that the whole thing was not handled well which is leading to this situation.
It is what we always say "it doesn't matter what you said but how you say it". Has this handled in a better way, things would have been different. And you explained that 'better way' very well.
You can cover this as a management lesson in your next book.
I think the main reason Hardik and management trying to mimic the same tactics followed in Gujarat, rather there is already an solid foundation was done last two years, if Mumbai followed the same process they would have won.
As a corporate example also you are missing one thing sir.. if I go back to my original employer I will not ask for leadership position immediately when my ex leader or mentor is there I will prefer to work with him on transition plan and deliver.. the thing here was his disrespect for seniors and disrespect of loyalty of Rohit, Bumrah and SKY by Management
Sorry Harsha, that’s wrong !
Hardik Pandya the player we love him, but the individual is the one who is getting the hate. He deserves it, not just because he has taken over the captaincy. Asking Tilak Verma to play slow when he is on 47 and finishing the game by hitting a six, again finishing a game when KL was in his 90’s. That talks abt how selfish and self-centred he is. He is everything good as a player but everything wrong as a leader. He is wrong influence for a team.
Your comparison previously between an IT job and Cricket - if that is fair, hear me out, I’d like to compare cricket with football, a sport with a sport much better than your comparison - there’s a concept of loyalty (where is that in Pandya?). Forget loyalty, if you had to transition captaincy, why not make Pandya player under Rohit for a season or two? This is unacceptable, Pandya deserves the treatment he is getting. Maybe not the language people are using, but if you care about language just go and hear the stump mic when Pandya was given the ball playing for India, he said to the fielders “mere time mujhe dekho, maa c#*#*#* gaya woh - referring to his captain”. You are trying to defend this man for whatever reason !
So I’m sorry Harsha, I’d like politely decline your analysis on the Pandya situation.
The primary reason for hate is his statements last year against MI. Also ignoring emotions of the biggest stakeholders of the game i.e. supporters is another reason.
Superbly elaborated by you Harsha sir! My opinion...
1) Hate for Hardik comes naturally, though I personally agree that he has done nothing wrong by taking up this position. But, there are definitely chances that he urged to be back in MI only on a condition to become captain.
2) Rohit is emotion for MI fans! He was an incredible leader, shown MI those golden days. And now, being treated like this by MI management is the biggest issue here. He will always remain best captain of MI
3) MI Management is the biggest culprit here. Obviously they thought about succession planning, but with a very bad implementation plan! Look how swiftly & with love CSK did the leadership change. Do we hear hatred for Ruturaj? Ofcourse, personality of the captain matters, too.
4) It is obvious that SKY & Bumrah are unhappy. Players who were looked upon as successors in MI are suddenly sidelined. Did MI management do at least due diligence to inform these seniors?
Harsha the great analyst is sadly giving a (paid) lie when he says he has no clue why Hardik is getting booed. Hardik backstabbed Rohit and guys like you and Ashwin come and say dont boo Hardik as he is India player... Question is when Hardik plays for India as compared to IPL and he was greedy to backstab his India captain.... So dont blame fans as I am proud fans are giving strong message here to Hardik and MI Mgmt...
Harsha… I have seen this corporate analogy being used by others too … I don’t think this passes the smell test .. in corporate when being hired for a leadership role by ex employer two things are 1> the employer ensures that there is a amicable transition and also 2> as a ex employee Tis my job to ensure that this transition has been communicated or insist on a tri party meeting before signing off and or even have a direct conversation with the incumbent leader ( ex mentor ..am assuming this based on the way you described Rohit Sharma as a leader) to ensure amenability …. Isn’t that the hallmark of a potential leader … lastly dosent his reflect very poorly on the management and their advisors ( Am sure you know them personally) The top consulting firms usually hire leaders internally to ensure smooth transition .. Your thoughts ????
PS: I have been in corporate hiring for 25 years and this clearly indicates a “Seth mentality or Sethani in this case …😇
What could captain Rohit do if management kept picking substandard teams in auction ?
Yes, owners can decide who is made captain, but the fans also have some say. It is MI, not AI. Name the team AI and do what you want.
Dont call it MI if you cant consider M's opinions.
RCB should buy Rohit next year and make him captain and win it finally. Considering the Impact Player rule, he still has a good 5 years in him.
When he said I don't like what is happening on social media.. looke like i am living on some other planet.. people troll celebrity its nothing new.. people are not abusing him threatening him . Chill bhai
Corporate life doesn't have that much of emotions involved
The biggest issue is that everyone takes the fans for granted and it is great to see fans getting united and protesting this change.This is a great lesson for any player who plays at this level to not just think about money and respect the emotions associated with the fans. Hardik had everything up until last year but he kept getting greedy and has potentially committed a career suicide. The only way hardik can make up for it now is if he steps down as captain,accepts his mistake and apologises.
I think if there is unrest within MI team, it is team management at the fault. What are they doing? Isn't it their responsibility to communicate their plans to key players in the team by taking them in confidence? Also I am baffled by MI team management, how they go about auctions, after , they go after one player and spend huge amount of money on him, like they did crazily for Jofra Archer and Ishan Kishan. This is really uncharacteristic of their owner company (Reliance) 😅😅
How can we say a player ambitious if he plays only IPL without injuries....while playing for india he will automatically get injuries......what i feel is playing for india gives less money instead of that he's chosen doing ads and promotions which is giving him more money....you are more experienced harsha if you see clearly observes the way hardik talks and his actions on the field compared to rohit , virat....Hardik achieved less but he act's like he's superior than legends of cricket....No matter how much poor you are at the start of your life once you become rich you need to be humble which we don't find that in hardik....Hardik said in one of interviews "MI bought all the superstars to play for them which results in winning" is Bumrah , Hardik , Ishan , Tilak , Madhwal and even Madhwal are superstars when they were initially bought by MI they were backed couple of seasons after that they reached to that level....Hardik conveyed this message like he won the ipl with middle class team...that middle class team contains Rashid khan , williamson , Gill , Miller , Shami , Tewatia , Ferguson , sudharsan.....lot of people saying why hate only for hardik ....hate is for both management + hardik as management not in the field they are not receiving it otherwise they also will get same response.....He knows Rohit Sharma is not stepped down as a captain yet and lot of seniors in the team but still he accepted it...i don't think he had a chat with rohit before accepting the offer as per press meet few day before....selfish people get deserved things harsha nature gives back what they deserve...so we don't need to worry of what's happening...don't say that MI don't reach playoffs much last 2-3 years everyone who follows ipl completely they definitely knows the reason behind it..it's because MI lost most of the big players with injuries.....MS is 42 still CSK backing him...at 41 as a captain MS won the ipl.....i still not able to understand what's the problem with MI Management....Rohit Sharma mostly will play for another 3-4 years..Hope MI don't retain Rohit Sharma in 2025 we don't need that..we all fans want HITMAN to play for some other franchise as captain and helping them successful
People would not have had an issue with Hardik if he would nit have disrespected the franchise and his mentors at Mumbai. From the Superstar team jibe, to the CSK statement.. makes him a turncoat in the eyes of the fan, an opportunistic individual who would say and do things that are the flavor of the season
With all due respect to you Sir, you are addressing why its done and we as fan has problem with ‘how’ its done. If management ask Rohit to step down with proper discussion and Rohit Sir comes and declare the strategy behind it then we would be ok with this change. It seems that MI management decided without even Rohit’s consent.
The main reason for the hate is the way this "transfer" took place. If they had acquired Hardik in an auction and then announced that they are making Hardik captain, I don't think the fans would have reacted this badly. The way they did it, it seems like some shady politics being played behind the scene.
As always great analysis Harsha🤝
2022 Mumbai Indians were at the bottom of the table and 2023 they somehow miraculously managed to be in the top 4. Now with all this chaos,they are only going downhill from here n it will take them many years to revive.if the management doesn't intervene,Mumbai Indians can never win another title.
Honestly, fans have short term memory. If they had just not choked and had won against GT, the booing would have gone by itself. I find it a bit alarming that they have so little faith in Tim David's ability to play spin that in two matches they protected him while the spinners were bowling.
Hardik deserves what he is getting. It's not one incident.
A fan who has prayed MI for 16 years
Fans are more rational than you! You dont have right to call fans irrational
Your analogy to bring back CEO back is welcome . But the booing also has an analogy akin to investors . Emotionally invested fans would boo (same as selling the stocks ) if the board did not do its job well .
The biggest problem is the miscommunication between the management, HP and the other senior players. The first thing they should have done is have a proper conversation internally and then announce to the fans in a proper way with all the players being wholeheartedly involved in the decision.
Sir how are you I am calling from Bangladesh, Asa Kari how are you and how is your family. My best wishes to the 17 crore people of Bangladesh. And we wish Eid Mubarak in advance of our religious festival, Eid ul Fitr. Sir, we 17 crore people of Bengal love you and the players of Bangladesh also love you, because your 1. Your smile is nice, 2. Your Aptitude, 3. Your Commentary, 4. Your passion, 5. Your cricketing knowledge, 6. With all your honesty, you are the best in our eyes, sir
I'm not sure if the analogy is entirely apt here. I know this is a business but its not a traditional business and you cannot run it as such. MI management has made a blunder here. Rohit can very well lead the team until the end of next cycle. He deserved better treatment for all that he has given. Dhoni is no longer the dangerous batsman he once was but CSK is still winning titles. Fans generate their revenues and MI management should have expected this and kept fans in their mind too when making their decision. Hardik also shares some blame.
There is difference between being ambitious and being greedy harsha if you know what i mean and more than love rohit sharma deserved respect from management and specially pandya