I saw something interesting on stat check recently. If you removed the top and bottom 10% of CSM players, their win-rate plummeted. I suspect that it's almost artificially "high" due to a small number of players having had some success at some smaller tournaments.
Hi Haszczu! Thanks for the feedback and very nice to hear about the experience on the Tabletop! Did you reroll to go for as many 6s as possible :-) and did the Tanks dissapear :-)
@@generaljannis to be honest re-rolls didn't do as much job as many natural, lethal 6s to hit =) tanks indead dissapeared fast :D just like tyranid monsters. Rapid Ingress is wonderful. Additional 4 movement is totally worth it. Propably You won't need to re-roll charge so You'll get that CP anyway =)
Ok, i love our Deathshroud. The only problem is now the Landraider capacity of 6 men… It could be cool to have another delivery method as well :-) But yes Rapid Ingress is super strong for our slow units
I don't get how orkz are so low on the list, my buddy has an ork list that I just can't crack. Even using TTS with access to any Death Guard list my heart desire I just can not beat his list. Do you think death guard are being propped up by Wardog Brigands? I hate using them as I want to play Death Guard not Chaos Knights and if you have three Chaos Knight models doing all your heavy lifting it's not really a Death Guard list is it?
What is the Ork list roughly? I would think that FBS and our PlagueMarines would be a very strong counter to the Orks melee. And what typically do tou use? Yes Wardog allies and also Daemon allies help Death Guard lists .
@@generaljannis His list is: Mozrog 2x Beastboss on Squigasaurs 2x 3 Mekguns led by a big mek with shock attack gun each 2x defkoptas (min size, don't remember if it's 3 or 5 models per unit) 1x Grot Tanks with Missile launchers 1x 5 stormboys and a bunch of assorted beast snagga stuff beastsnagga boys with painbosses and some gretchen. My problem has been even with the lethal hits coming from 2 units of plague marines led by a BP/FBS and entropy cannons from my pbc's I can't crack the beastbosses with the 4 or 5++ and the 4+++. Add to that the massive firepower coming from the mekguns from across the table (hitting on 4's and reroling 1's with with a bucketload of s12 and d6+1 damage shots) and he usually has half my army dead by the end of turn 2. I run my plague marines with 5x heavy plague weapon and 4x bubotic weapons with a melta heavy weapon model and plasma pistol on the champion.
Hmm I Can see Mozrog is a tough cookie! There I can see the big use of a Brigands Daemonsear. For the Mekguns, I assume the PBCs mortar would do nicely. , and also they need line of sight to target you. And keeping the Plague Marines protected in the Rhino until they can do their job
awesome break down general, thankyou for the upload.
Nice to hear!
I saw something interesting on stat check recently. If you removed the top and bottom 10% of CSM players, their win-rate plummeted. I suspect that it's almost artificially "high" due to a small number of players having had some success at some smaller tournaments.
thats another minor problem with 60 day range, some factions are good but the number of games/players is really low sample size
The problem with time sample range is that if we make it too long it will be a mix of different points/ dataslates etc.
Hi GJ! I have tested Your mathammer bomb of 6x DSTs with LoC against Astra Militarum tanks :D that was puuure madness on dices.
Hi Haszczu! Thanks for the feedback and very nice to hear about the experience on the Tabletop! Did you reroll to go for as many 6s as possible :-) and did the Tanks dissapear :-)
@@generaljannis to be honest re-rolls didn't do as much job as many natural, lethal 6s to hit =) tanks indead dissapeared fast :D just like tyranid monsters.
Rapid Ingress is wonderful. Additional 4 movement is totally worth it. Propably You won't need to re-roll charge so You'll get that CP anyway =)
Ok, i love our Deathshroud. The only problem is now the Landraider capacity of 6 men… It could be cool to have another delivery method as well :-) But yes Rapid Ingress is super strong for our slow units
@@generaljannis that's true... Check "Spartan" legend datasheet at free time... 14 slots =) have a nice day!
I don't get how orkz are so low on the list, my buddy has an ork list that I just can't crack. Even using TTS with access to any Death Guard list my heart desire I just can not beat his list. Do you think death guard are being propped up by Wardog Brigands? I hate using them as I want to play Death Guard not Chaos Knights and if you have three Chaos Knight models doing all your heavy lifting it's not really a Death Guard list is it?
What is the Ork list roughly? I would think that FBS and our PlagueMarines would be a very strong counter to the Orks melee. And what typically do tou use? Yes Wardog allies and also Daemon allies help Death Guard lists .
@@generaljannis His list is:
Mozrog
2x Beastboss on Squigasaurs
2x 3 Mekguns led by a big mek with shock attack gun each
2x defkoptas (min size, don't remember if it's 3 or 5 models per unit)
1x Grot Tanks with Missile launchers
1x 5 stormboys
and a bunch of assorted beast snagga stuff beastsnagga boys with painbosses and some gretchen.
My problem has been even with the lethal hits coming from 2 units of plague marines led by a BP/FBS and entropy cannons from my pbc's I can't crack the beastbosses with the 4 or 5++ and the 4+++. Add to that the massive firepower coming from the mekguns from across the table (hitting on 4's and reroling 1's with with a bucketload of s12 and d6+1 damage shots) and he usually has half my army dead by the end of turn 2. I run my plague marines with 5x heavy plague weapon and 4x bubotic weapons with a melta heavy weapon model and plasma pistol on the champion.
Sucks man I generally go awsum in my brother's orks just ol mozrog, that gets me
Hmm I Can see Mozrog is a tough cookie! There I can see the big use of a Brigands Daemonsear. For the Mekguns, I assume the PBCs mortar would do nicely. , and also they need line of sight to target you. And keeping the Plague Marines protected in the Rhino until they can do their job
FIrst! Thx General!
Thanks McBane! (first reply :-))
Gia sou Gianni
Gia sou file! :-)