Early Ice Beam TUTORIAL - Metroid Prime Remastered
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ก.พ. 2023
- In-depth tutorial how to do one of the hardest Sequence Breaks in Metroid Prime Remastered, this is known as IBBF (Ice Beam Before Flaaghra). This trick is pretty advanced and not recommended for newcomers.
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For anyone trying this, it seems that once you're out of bounds, if you keep the stick in neutral as you're landing from a jump and while you jump off the ground, it's much harder for the game to put you in bounds if you move correctly
"Keep stick in neutral"... Nintendo Joycon laughing in the corner (jk though, I play with a Pro controller and even have my GameCube controller around)
@@dr_ubo yes the Joyccons a real bitch.
Am gonna have to get myself a pro controller
@@dr_ubo Yes this game docked with pro-controller plays like a dream.
It’s way harder with drift 😢
"These jumps are very difficult" proceeds to do them almost flawlessly lol. You make this look much easier than it sounds
This game is Barly out and we’ve already broke it. Good work team
tbh, they kept a lot of the same sequence breaks than in Prime Trilogy so it was to be expected.
This was broken since the original release. It's not something new lol. I'm glad they kept it though, along with other sequence breaks. Not being able to do these same breaks in the Wii Trilogy definitely made stuff less fun.
Next step, break it before it comes out
This has been in the game since the gamecube version, it's just harder to do since the swtich version removes some of the landing spots that were normally relied upon
Very informative and concise. The input display is a great touch as well. Thanks!
Uhhh, as great as this looks, I think it's easier (and faster) for me to just do it the normal way 😅
This skips getting boost ball, fighting sheegoth to get wave beam infiltrating pirate territory to get super missiles and thermal visor, and fighting thardus to get spider ball.
@@461weavile I haven't seen anyone do Early Wild though, so it seems Spider Ball can't be skipped for now.
I’d love to see more sequence breaking tutorials as they’re discovered / made more consistent. Great video!
I just spent longer than I would like to admit trying to do this and finally did it all thanks to you! Something I also never did on the original that I really wanted to do. This is a long wanted accomplishment for me. Thanks again for this!
I was trying to do this day one and I kept falling through and dying in the aether. Thought it was completely impossible. Thanks for video!
honestly? this looks way easier and way less painful then the trilogy/gc release's out of bounds. since there's no aether to deal with. dying when falling out of bounds was a really good change on retro's part.
Ok.
I'm...just gonna..
play the game right.
My head hurts.
I found something that might make the jump at 4:56 a bit more consistent. As you see in the video, align yourself slightly right of the pole while looking ever so slightly to the left. Then jump and tap forward as you see in the input display. After I noticed that, I hit it immediately.
Edit: I FINALLY DID IT! Thanks so much to your guide. I've always been a scared of out of bounds exploration and tricks but I finally managed to pull this off!
I always mess up at that point, I will try your advice
Edit: You're right, I hit this jump more consistent now
This is sick! I had no idea you could do this
Oww man great job. So much oob. Here i thought getting up the wall left to the space ship was exciting but this blew it all away.
I finally got it but this is so hard lol. Definitely takes some grueling attempts to get down. Thanks for the ace tutorial.
The lack of intended sequence breaking is the only criticism I have towards the Prime games.
Would be nice to have a map that allows experienced players to change the order we acquire items, Like Zero Mission does, because I don't really like going out of bounds.
They came from a different design era. Look at Fusion also, it's practically impossible to beat the game out of order. But I have some hope for Prime 4 since Dread was clearly designed with speedrunning in mind.
I like having a path that they crafted but I like that special feeling of getting something when you’re not supposed to. If they just opened things up then it’s “well where do you want to go first” which isn’t nearly as fun. Getting to places you’re not supposed to feels good.
@@KevsShwaShwa That's why randomizers are so cool. After you have exhausted your options in the game proper, you can just mix all the items locations and have fun with the mess you got yourself into by not getting anything in order. :D
@@TwilightWolf032 If only that is included in the game.
Getting out of bounds its not really a sequence break, its breaking the game
I’ve played this game so many times but never really got into sequence breaking/speed running before. With the remaster I took it as a sign to give it a go finally, looking forward to breaking down these vids to learn how things will work in the remaster! Do you plan on doing any tutorials for things like early power bombs?
Same here!
Im surprised and im pretty sure retro studios made this un purpose, there's no way they we're keeping this all the way back from de gc and still we can made it. Good job and thank you for this guide!! i always loved doing this out of bounds and early items glitches back in the day and eventually i started speedruning this game (im not that good tho xD) and still today i keep loving this types of videos!
This is next on my todo list. Once i finally get Boots early.
I beat him normally and got the boots but def gonna try this
This is much more challenging than the boots were, but stick with it and you got this!
Aether is basically a hidden path in Metroid 💀 thanks for the tutorial bro
It's cute seeing people commenting on this thinking it's a new discovery. Y'all, these sequence breaks have been around for 20+ years now. Thanks to op though for posting this tutorial in the remastered version though, it's awesome that they didn't patch these for the remaster.
And here it is. Now we need early plasma!
Finally hit it, the fire generator room had me stuck for hours
Could you make a video on slope jumping? I've followed your inputs as best I can but I don't jump any higher, I can't even get past the first room where you first mention it, I don't fully understand how it works
Yo lets go! I gotta try this later
Thanks a lot I can't wait to try this as soon as I get the game hopefully next month or two and I hope to God these glitches don't get patched the creator of the original Metroid games knows the importance of sequence breaking that's why Metroid Dread has purposely sequence breaking sections like I think if you get the morph bombs or grapple beam early you can easily kill kraid.
whats your settings in the remastered version? Is there anything we need to switch in controls?
Is there any way to clip in bounds in the ghost room earlier. Then just bomb+spring jump into the tunnel to make progress. It won’t be faster but may be a bit easier for the casual player (who shouldn’t attempt this at all for the record >.
I’ve have found my own answer. There is a nice clip spot on the rock you jump to right after transitioning the room. Just had to walk forward :D
I may be a little tired. I thought the title said. "Early Ice Cream." at first.
Speedrun when? i want to watch all of this tricks in a run
I did speedrun with IBBF and Early PB, but I failed a lot with new tricks: th-cam.com/video/qZi6RnZzaGY/w-d-xo.html
@@Samura1man Thanks and good luck next time
Is it possible to get OOB with dual stick or do you need pointer to do a slope jump? I'm not totally understanding what a slope jump is, why you can do it on this straight wall, and if you need pointer to hold L while doing it
Slope jump is a trick to gain extra height by using slopes.
This can be done with any control scheme
@@Samura1man thanks I actually did get it eventually! Only made it halfway with the wall crawl so far but slowly getting it 🐌
Lmao among the most scuffed tutorials I've ever seen
Thank you for information I probably won't use
Might try remastered
Good vid
Good stuff
Just curious are wii/pointer controlls better for speedruning or are you only using them because of preference
It's preference
So falling into pits no longer resets your position with some energy loss? Now it's instakill?
I've also managed to do it, but I've always fallen in bounds in hall of the elders, luckily I managed to do a bomb jump into the tunnel.
I managed to get up to the gap twice but I couldn't actually move through the gap when holding forward. I don't think they updated the game to patch it out so I'm not quite sure.
Yeah it's frustrating. Especially since there's a gap where you would fall, so you have to go back to the platforms
Oh cool, how to get icebeam early?
Opens video and watches 1 minute in,
Sees I can fall....
Closes video.
No wonder your name is “Samura1man”, because you have the moves of a samurai. 👍
Holy crap, this is WAY harder than the original!
Is it possible to also fall back in bounds in Hall of Elders and do a bomb jump into the tunnel that leads to ice beam?
Probably
Even if you fall back inbounds that peg people have stood on to get on top of bomb slot to unlock other slots isn't standable anymore, also you don't have Wave Beam to unlock the path to Ice Beam
@@Samura1man oh shit it's not that sucks
Samuraiman is wrong here, you can indeed do this, but if you do you have to kill a ghost to unlock the top door. Use spring ball for the bomb jump and you'll make it into the tunnel
I need an explanation of all the tricks in context: When to get them and how the pathing goes afterwards. At least for now
Thank you for your very detailed explanations! I wanna try it myself now, although it isn't recommended >:)
After collecting Ice Beam, you can use save station room to get back to Tallow Overworld or the same path you came from by using out of bounds, doors can be opened with Ice Beam
Is it possible to get to Phendrana without Varia suit in this version?
Yeah, it is possible. But you need four e-tanks for it, three of them you can get before Flaaghra boss fight, then the fourth e-tank can be collected from Hall of the Elders. (Need to use out of bounds to get on bomb slot to activate bomb slots for Beams). Draconif managed to get to Phendrana without Varia Suit: th-cam.com/video/DQhBZucUMKw/w-d-xo.html
@@Samura1man Are you going to be making more speedrun videos of Prime remastered and is the Metroid community trying to find anything new about this version?
I will make more tutorial videos!
Other community members are trying to find more stuff to use in speedrun, some are learning and practicing
I try to do Slope jump but whenever I hold L down to do it, it disables my B button for jumps. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong or what to do from here.
Hold ZL for target, L button is jump button too
@@Samura1man So for Slope Jump I gotta hold ZL instead of L then? I thought so, but I was still messing up the Slope Jump so I wasn't sure if it was helping. Thank you for letting me know! :)
Ugh I dont know if I can make this. But I managed to miss the very first door and falling to my death twice which is something I was never able to do before so maybe I just have to be persistent.
I assume you need the space boots before doing that sequence break? looks like you can jump twice in the video.
the ice beam door transition (in furnace) is not working for me the room just wont load how do i do this?
note i am doing this on the gamecube version
On the Gamecube version: That door requires you to touch a trigger, maybe check this out and follow its movement: th-cam.com/video/s11QMxWX1Qs/w-d-xo.html
@@Samura1man ty ty im techincally playing primehack but like its the gameube version
I'm not sure you'll reply to this but I'm sure you were using the practice mod? If so, how do you get the mod for metroid prime remastered? It'll be very helpful to know and I'll be very grateful for your help.
Yeah, I was using practice mod. I feel it'd be better to ask in speedrunning discord for it, here's a link to the discord: discord.gg/wRAJSny
@@Samura1man Thank you so much for the help. 😊
So I'm jumping back and forth trying to do this. Am I supposed to be hugging the wall? Too close and I hit my head on the ceiling
The classic, can't believe they didn't patched that , and I wonder what else they didn't patched or perhaps left it the same
GOAT
I don't think this is gonna take me one try... Wonderful strat and video tho sir
boy you must really want that ice beam badly jeez
Oh cool there is no sky walk to worry about in Energy Core Access or anywhere
Samus in the 4th dimension
7:33 LOL
The real question is "why would i get the Ice Beam when that triggers Chozo Ghosts throughout the map?"
Can you go into greater detail about the slope jump? I've done slope jumps before, but I have spent over a week trying to get it and i just can't. No matter what I do, I never get enough height. I press jump after pressing forward, I jump before pressing forward, I press them at teh same time, I back up and do it at the bottom of the slope, I pull away from the wall after the first jump, I push into the wall, I back up and get a running start and press slightly to the right and forward, I've done fucking everything, over and over and over and over and over again, I've watched your video like 20 times, played in slow motion to understand your inputs, nothing works. it''s impossible. I just don't get it.
You did answer your own question.
There's no more to explain really, you simply walk up a slope then jump before you reach the peak of a slope, you must have hit something while jumping to lose height.
I think your inputs just need to be faster/cleaner, but it's move forward for a split second then jump. In this case you have to pull back right away so that you don't rub into the wall and then upforward to slot yourself into the notch to get out. here's the steps for me after you're in the corner on this sequence break 1. back up so that samus sinks down slightly to indicate you're on a slope (this can be far down the slope or just a tiny bit it works either way) 2. run forward and jump right away 3. pull back immediately to not lose all of your upward momentum (you kind of bounce off the wall) 4. jump again and hold upright to aim for the hole in the wall (once you're lined up with the hole hold forward to slot in) 5. once you're through the hole aim to the right and hold forward (this part takes getting used to, you might over/undershoot it till you figure it out) I hope there's something helpful in there for you and just so you know it took me a while to get the trick as well. Good luck!
Legit took me like 3 days to get this trick down
I want to see more out of bounds videos, this is weird but really interesting.
Can you please to do a video explaining how to do the Slope Jump? The Slope Jump, unlike BSJ, isn't easy. I've managed to do to get on the branches and then the part of the wall where you do the Slope Jump. However, whenever I try to do the Slope Jump, it doesn't work. I followed the input as I possibly could and I even looked up on google for help. But I keep having trouble. However, I know it's doable, I just need help in figuring it out. Can you please explain the Slope Jump in full?
You're one of the only people in the Speedrunner community I actually respect because of how you actually explain the tricks you use in your videos. And you're actually friendly and helpful towards even non-speedrunners. You're more helpful and friendly than most speedrunner people I've come across. That said, I actually really like your videos.
I'm not a speedrunner as I don't actually really believe in speedruns, but I do believe in sequence breaking as I am a sequence breaker. Therefore, I like to use these sequence break tricks solely for sequence breaking and not speedrunning.
I could make a quick video that explains Slope jump, though idk is it actually that necessary to make video out, but I consider about it, besides BSJ might be something worth to make a video out of.
But I hope this text will help you understand how Slope Jump works:
Let's say there's a hill and you can walk it up, that's the kind of slope you can use to gain extra height when jumping, you want to jump before you reach the top of the slope - That's the best way I can explain it in text. Notice in the video how I walk back slightly before I jump.
Thank you for nice words and enjoying my content! I really like helping out anyone trying speedrun tricks.
@@Samura1man I saw that you are holding L while jumping. But in another video (I can't remember which one) someone said that they patched out the L jump. Was that false info, or do you just hold L from muscle memory?
@@MattRose30000 that input is ZL, not L. In the pointer control scheme, ZL stops Samus from rotating when the crosshair is near the edge of the screen.
Man that's alot of work but I'm willing to try it since I beat the game.
You activated the Chozo Ghosts. Does that affect the rest of the game?
Yes, they will appear all around Chozo Ruins after activating the ghost in Hall of the Elders
@@Samura1man getting the ice beam early is awesome. Having to fight the ghosts without the thermal visor must add an extra level of difficulty early in the game.
And at the end you had all your tanks?
Oh my god it took me months to speed run this in original. This is a new route and looks nightmarish lol.
Interesting that they didn't patch the small gap in the wall, even though this was so well known. It's if they just wanted us to go OOB.
What's weirder, they changed the collision of the slope you jump to get oob off of, but didn't just remove it
And to add to the weirdness, they added invisible barriers to *some* of the Secret Worlds (see SW 3 Ruined Courtyard) and not to more useful SWs such as this one (SW7). 🤦🏽
"4:55 this room will be the hardest part of this sequence break" Ha.
WAKE UP REMASTERED TECH
I see why this tutorial isnt for beginners, the instructions are "jump here, here, here, here, here"
I wonder if by documenting this stuff, they'll see how to patch it out.
The skips have existed since the GCN versions (or Wii versions for the Spring Ball tricks), and they're still here. So I don't think they'll patch these out.
This is just my opinion and if your's is different I respect that.
The only sequence breaks in Metroid games that I don't like are these OoB ones. But if they were to patch them, I'd rather they add secret hallways matching the OoB paths that makes this traversal canon, but using an equally difficult path to get there. Like, frustratingly hard with plenty of chances to die instead of falling through the game world.
In other words, I hope they take the OoB out of OoB sequence breaks. I don't want them to ignore it, but I don't want them patch it out entirely either.
It's an opportunity for them to get creative and add to the game world without technically diminishing the spirit of the remaster (people can do it in the original, they would just be making it look and play better).
Again, just my opinion.
I agree mostly. I think that Retro shouldnt have tampered with the original release. Most of the tricks & sequence brakes had to do with space jumps, dashes & standing on geometry. Non of those thinks are out of context or made the game look bad.
I think this is one of the franchises in which the speedrun community should be prioritized. After all they are the one that keep the game being relevant.
I don't see the point in patching it. Only a fringe minority of players will ever interact with these sequences, and they have no bearing on normal play. Prime is actually remarkable stable, so it's immensely unlikely you would ever go out of bounds by accident. Things like this often go unnoticed by the community at large and will always remain niche.
@@tgr3423 True. I would go as far as to say they should have patched the game to improve sequence braking. I.E.: i think there was a part of the game that requires a power bomb to progress even if the player has a bomb expansion. So it only works with the main expansion power up.
I think baseline for player freedom should be super metroid. Would be amazing if they made a game that could be completed with the basic abilities from the start and power ups would be there to ease the game complition. The formula isgetting stale after all.
Darn. I was hoping it didn't require this kind of method. Oh well. Still love the game.
Dropping oob in the gc version, I got no game over just the void thus reset console. Nostalgic.
I've beat flaggra but I can try this I butchered the name
Looks like they didn’t fix all the bug. Sequence breaking is here to stay.
It’s…I dunno weirdly moving and beautiful to me, that there are new speedrun strats for prime…in 2023😊😊
there are no new speedrun strats and there may never be. this is all stuff that could be done in the wii version. for there to be "new" strats somebody would have to find something that has somehow gone undiscovered over the past 20 years.
Early power bombs and plasma beam when?
Will work on them next!
This is literally impossible to pull off for thr avg player. Just getting out of bounds took hours way longer than if I just played it normally and the one time I did, I immediately fell out and died. I really wonder if anyone besides you has succeeded in this and how long it legit took.
approximately 3 days
I prefer doing this blindfolded
at least you die when you fall, on my version on the gamecube you just fall through an endless void so i had to restart my game.
can consistently get to furnace, but the rest is just ridiculous
Getting to furnace is easy, but those Invisble jumps are absolutly stupid
Already glitches can’t believe it
If I recall, the ice bean has the worst rate of fire though
This will most likely get patched soon.
Moreso glitch than sequence break
Tutorial is 10/10, but pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease, voice over better
So that means it isn't 10/10, if I would have to redo voice over
This game is unplayable and broken just look at these bugs and glitches also did you change languages at like 2:05
Dude we already broke the game LOL
the trick is nearly 10 years old.
Just play the game 😂
No. Lol. I just beat the game with 99 energy and only 60 missiles. I can't sequence break worth shit.
Boring
This out of bounds tricks are horrible. Hopefully this gets patched. Wouldnt mind watching "glitchless" runs instead.
Btw, great work with the tutorial. Not trying to dismiss your efforts good sir 👍
I can't get the initial slope jump at all.
I’m buy this game in the far march 2003 I don’t have any problem to get all Samus gears.