I don't think 15 is healed from his wounds. He clearly shows that he is insecure about his past, like in Church on Ruby Road he calls himself '''Bad luck''. In Rogue he tries to avoid a deep conversation with Ruby after losing Rogue and then in the finale he calls himself ''disaster''. So I believe he is more open about his feelings, he is not afraid to cry and shout. But he also feels aware of the losses he endured. I think he tries to see the good in the bad. When he talks about Gallifrey, he mentions he is glad to be alive and diverts the conversation to ''This thing flies''. When he mentions Susan, his reaction is to laugh at the end of Ruby conforting him and hugging him. After losing Rogue, he gets up and talks about going onwards. While I think 13 avoided those conversations entirely and acted quirky and silly to hide her trauma, 15 seems to talk about it and then act like no big deal.
I think what's interesting about that is Ruby does the same thing; she opens up about her feelings, someone will try to comfort her and she acts like things are all fine. It's a nice reflection of character, even if they don't really do anything with it. Here's hoping it's expanded upon in season 2/series 15
i definitely find this take intriguing, but especially for seeing previous doctors be able to act similarly in similar circumstances, i’m interested in how you feel about 11 and 12’s relationships with river song, 11’s escapades, 10’s and 9’s relationship with rose, and 8’s romantic side overall. in all honesty, the romantic side of the doctor doesn’t feel out of place as it’s been established time and time again with various incarnations
Irrelevant to the rest of the video, which is great by the way, but your thumbnails are absolutely awesome! Love your unique style of content - it’s very rare to see - and it’s a shame your channel isn’t bigger. But hey ho, I’ll keep supporting you as long as you’re making stuff.
@@MrGreaves Thank you! I know my thumbnails aren't very clickbaity but I'm glad someone appreciates the aesthetic! I try to keep a house style. I try my best to do a video a month (regardless of traction)!
@@AidanGulaMedia Ah man, screw clickbaity thumbnails. You’re true to yourself and your style, and I love that so much. Even with the editing. I’d love to have a defined style like yours. And that kinda attitude and aesthetic is what will attract people. Lots of love for your stuff, can’t wait to see more once a month!
@@andrewlawless9796 I don't know. The beauty of watching the Doctor as a character is understanding the journey he's been on for thousands of years and how all those adventures and experiences brought him to this very moment. So if he behaves in a way that doesn't seem consistent with that, it's quite jarring and snaps me out of the moment. If I see Gatwa (or any other Doctor) do something that doesn't feel consistent with something say Tom Baker would have done, then I don't find it as believable that it is the same character just in a different body. RTD has always had the interpretation that "some other man" takes over, but I have the very firm belief that it's the exact same man with the same memories and inclinations just with a different face.
Great criticism. I've seen a lot, and this is tops in perspicacity. A few things now. Gatwa's Doctor isn't joyous; he's gay. I intend the pun. The traditional meaning of _gay_ involved a certain amount of disregard. Joy is when you have a great time with friends. Gay is when you're at a fancy party where you don't care the servants aren't so happy. People get this wrong all the time. Some translations of _The Gay Science_ say _The Joyous Wisdom._ This is wrong. Nietzsche knew full well he was laughing whilst driving a stiletto into German philosophy. Thus, "Rogue," where a dead companion doesn't get much in the way of a good snog. His Doctor isn't emotional but rather emotionalistic. It's not that he cries too often, though this is how a viewer might rationalize it. It's that he mostly cries without meaning. It's a bit like AI art. The appearance is good enough, but it is vacuous. Once a roommate of mine decided to go as a Jackson Pollack to a party, splattering paint on a white coat. His girlfriend broke up with him between the front and the back. I swear you could see the difference in emotion in the splatters. I don't see emotion in Gatwa's crying most of the time; I see mere performance. I don't fault Gatwa for this but rather what he was given to play. Actors get the publicity, and so are who are praised or blamed, but they are hired to speak words and do things other people wrote. Sure, RTD1 worked because Eccleston pushed back against RTD, but that is rare, and for a time he was blacklisted for doing so. For me, Eccleston's characterization reminded me of _The Face of Evil,_ which buffered it a bit.
I don't think 15 is healed from his wounds. He clearly shows that he is insecure about his past, like in Church on Ruby Road he calls himself '''Bad luck''. In Rogue he tries to avoid a deep conversation with Ruby after losing Rogue and then in the finale he calls himself ''disaster''.
So I believe he is more open about his feelings, he is not afraid to cry and shout. But he also feels aware of the losses he endured.
I think he tries to see the good in the bad. When he talks about Gallifrey, he mentions he is glad to be alive and diverts the conversation to ''This thing flies''. When he mentions Susan, his reaction is to laugh at the end of Ruby conforting him and hugging him. After losing Rogue, he gets up and talks about going onwards. While I think 13 avoided those conversations entirely and acted quirky and silly to hide her trauma, 15 seems to talk about it and then act like no big deal.
I think what's interesting about that is Ruby does the same thing; she opens up about her feelings, someone will try to comfort her and she acts like things are all fine. It's a nice reflection of character, even if they don't really do anything with it. Here's hoping it's expanded upon in season 2/series 15
i definitely find this take intriguing, but especially for seeing previous doctors be able to act similarly in similar circumstances, i’m interested in how you feel about 11 and 12’s relationships with river song, 11’s escapades, 10’s and 9’s relationship with rose, and 8’s romantic side overall. in all honesty, the romantic side of the doctor doesn’t feel out of place as it’s been established time and time again with various incarnations
@@ralphisback Yeah and I acknowledge that and say I don't like it. I've always preferred the Doctor to be asexual.
He cries a lot.
Poor guy seems like an emotional wreck.
Irrelevant to the rest of the video, which is great by the way, but your thumbnails are absolutely awesome! Love your unique style of content - it’s very rare to see - and it’s a shame your channel isn’t bigger.
But hey ho, I’ll keep supporting you as long as you’re making stuff.
@@MrGreaves Thank you! I know my thumbnails aren't very clickbaity but I'm glad someone appreciates the aesthetic! I try to keep a house style. I try my best to do a video a month (regardless of traction)!
@@AidanGulaMedia Ah man, screw clickbaity thumbnails. You’re true to yourself and your style, and I love that so much. Even with the editing. I’d love to have a defined style like yours. And that kinda attitude and aesthetic is what will attract people. Lots of love for your stuff, can’t wait to see more once a month!
i thinks saying certain gatwa moments don't land because you cant imagine past dr's behaving the same is an unfair criticism.
@@andrewlawless9796 I don't know. The beauty of watching the Doctor as a character is understanding the journey he's been on for thousands of years and how all those adventures and experiences brought him to this very moment. So if he behaves in a way that doesn't seem consistent with that, it's quite jarring and snaps me out of the moment. If I see Gatwa (or any other Doctor) do something that doesn't feel consistent with something say Tom Baker would have done, then I don't find it as believable that it is the same character just in a different body.
RTD has always had the interpretation that "some other man" takes over, but I have the very firm belief that it's the exact same man with the same memories and inclinations just with a different face.
Sorry, he's just a rotten choice.
Great criticism. I've seen a lot, and this is tops in perspicacity. A few things now.
Gatwa's Doctor isn't joyous; he's gay. I intend the pun. The traditional meaning of _gay_ involved a certain amount of disregard. Joy is when you have a great time with friends. Gay is when you're at a fancy party where you don't care the servants aren't so happy.
People get this wrong all the time. Some translations of _The Gay Science_ say _The Joyous Wisdom._ This is wrong. Nietzsche knew full well he was laughing whilst driving a stiletto into German philosophy.
Thus, "Rogue," where a dead companion doesn't get much in the way of a good snog.
His Doctor isn't emotional but rather emotionalistic. It's not that he cries too often, though this is how a viewer might rationalize it. It's that he mostly cries without meaning.
It's a bit like AI art. The appearance is good enough, but it is vacuous. Once a roommate of mine decided to go as a Jackson Pollack to a party, splattering paint on a white coat. His girlfriend broke up with him between the front and the back. I swear you could see the difference in emotion in the splatters. I don't see emotion in Gatwa's crying most of the time; I see mere performance.
I don't fault Gatwa for this but rather what he was given to play. Actors get the publicity, and so are who are praised or blamed, but they are hired to speak words and do things other people wrote. Sure, RTD1 worked because Eccleston pushed back against RTD, but that is rare, and for a time he was blacklisted for doing so.
For me, Eccleston's characterization reminded me of _The Face of Evil,_ which buffered it a bit.