Harley Davidson v rod muscle takes on Suzuki Hayabusa in 1/4 mile drag race.Two of the best legendary motorbikes face to face.Top speed,acceleration and exhaust sound.
the Harley did surprisingly well. Busa lost a lot of time first 60ft trying to keep the front wheel down. Rider maybe could have gone better if he'd wound the power on a bit steadier initially. We all know Busa's are fast, so full credit to the Harley which usually aren't exactly known for high performance
@@anonymouslegion4928 it is designed by Porsche, but I dont think it is actually manufactured in Germany. Might be wrong, but my VIN# points to the Harley KC factory, albeit they may manufacture engine and other spares elsewhere… not sure.
If the Busa had anti Wheelie.... Launch control like they have now, it would have been.... 1st second gear..... Race done. The Harley would still be parking up next to the modded Walking Frames.... Mobility Scooters. Back playing Bingo in the nursing home
First year of production V Rods were geared low and that produced lower quarter mile times but also caused premature engine wear and higher than normal oil consumption, so after the first year the V Rod was given normal gearing which resulted in slower elapsed times. Busa muffed the start and should have turned a 9 sec. V Rod would have been considered fast 30 years ago.
If the guy on the Hayabusa had put the power down without lifting the front tire he could've shaved a bit off of his time, but at least the V Rod was in the race.
I should of added that the Suzuki Hayabusa does not have an extended rake to the frame like the V-Rod has. So the Suzuki Hayabusa with its standard rake and trail of most all Japanese sport bikes made for corners should handle the paved highways just fine as all reviews for the last 20 years say they will ...but then most morons don't have a clue !
A stock V Rod is around 115 horse power. The stock Hayabusa has approximately 173 horse power. Horse power = speed. Unless you are running a Top Fuel Harley the outcome will be the same as all of the compact, lightweight, high revving 4 cyl Japanese engines are now High Horse Power. Very hard to beat.
Actually impressive for a V-rod to do a 11.3. Quite shitty for the 'busa to do a 10.3. Shoulda been a 9.3 if he wasn't fucking around pulling a wheelie.
Also, the V-Rod needed rear-sets for this race, Scott. Having to fight the G's to get his boot to the forward-mounted shift under full acceleration, killed the V-Rod, costing damned-near a half-second, by the time he got his foot oriented and all. Couple that with not fully exploiting the Porsche's rev-range and we're talking a second and a half. Meaning the V-Rod should have been competitive, even had the Busa not wasted all the forward momentum with its wheel in the air. I think they both should have crossed the line somewhere in the mid-to-high nines. There's just no way the V-Rod doesn't break 130 mph within a quarter-mile, with the right rider and feet positioned for a drag race.
Honestly my 2002 zx6 (not even an R) did 11.5 stock and with slight mods just over 11 seconds and it's only a 600. The Rs ran high 10s. The new zx6r runs 10.7 at 132.
Yes, but keep in mind that the engine of this V-rod was designed by Porsche. Throw any true Harley-engined bike in, and the result will be far less surprising, just as you thought.
As a Blackbird owner,its good to see the Busa in it's natural enviroment.It's still superfast,and superugly.V-rod looks good though,and I don't even like tractors..
The Vrod is an engine from the VR1000 race bike made by Harley, they collaborated with Porsche to bring it to the street. There is a documentary on youtube about the Vrod, people who call it a Porsche bike should watch that.
The engine design specs was started by Eric Buell in the 90's, he's been trying to convince HD to build a water cooled OHC engine since the 80's. HD used many of EB's designs to build the vr1000 from the engine specs to the fuel in frame. Many of the design ideas he carried over to his XB series of bikes where he also introduced the ztl brakes, but HD still only letting him use the EVO engine. Hd took EB's ideas and specs to Porsche to build the VRods engine. EB wasnt able to build his own engine until the 1125 and by then HD shut his company down. EB later come out with his own company and gave the motorcycle world his last gift the 1190.
You guys are dreaming, HD approached Ilmore Engineering in the UK, Ilmore built the F1 engines for Mercedes, HD wanted to get into 750 Superbike & knowing a1000 cc twin could qualify as a 750 at the time. They managed moderate success finishing mid pack at Daytona, so Harley decided to withdraw & gave the production rights to Porsche who who now mas produce the engines,definitely the best Harley Davidson that Harley didn't get there air cooled fingers into, no 45deg no pushrods.
that V rod is one beautiful machine. too bad they're not built to be as fast as a hayabusa. but that can be fixed by modifying the engine and the transmission
A surprisingly good run by the Harley but the Busa was really slow off the line. Crossing the line at 15 mph faster is reasonably significant for a 1/4 mile.
The Harley did incredibly well, and it is far, far more beautiful with way better sound. Even though I’m a former Suzuki owner, I have to say I would choose the Harley to have in my garage.
People wonder why rockets get stretched. So the front end don't raise up when racing. That V-Rod basically walked off on the Busa & he had to catch up.
The original video has an additional 5 minutes before the race of the safety attendant explaining to the Harley guy why he can’t wear his 1/2 helmet. Lol
Torque.....not likely. Gearing and physics would be a more accurate statement. The Busa engine make more horsepower and torque by a large margin than the VRod all the way across the board. Anyone familiar with Busa's knows they aren't designed to accelerate in the low end. There are many bikes out there that will give them hell in the first 660ft. After that though.....
Ralph I will grant you the Busa left some time on the track, nine second quarter miles are not done easily by an average rider on average Busa. Please give it go if you have not tried it before. Moto journalist sometimes get those times and sometimes the track density of altitude is high and makes it tough to run quick times. Possible yes but not easy.
Cool race, but an apples to oranges comparison. The V-ROD is a power cruiser, plain and simple. It was never meant to compete with sport bikes. Two different tools for two different riding experiences. With that being said, the V-ROD is a quick power cruiser. For a small engine (either an 1130 or 1250cc), it can take out most others in its class that have a much larger displacement.
grabir01 the Hayabusa makes an easy 30ft lbs more peak than the vrod. It makes more at just off idle than the Vrod does at peak. It was the wheelbase that helped it off the line.
I love it. That 'busa must have ran a good second or more slower than it can and even then once he put it down and opened the throttle it managed to clear the v-rod by a second anyway. That 'rod time is actually pretty good for one of them but a lowered 'busa should be in the mid 9's or better depending on mods.
I have had both bikes and the Vrod is a fast bike. My Ninja ZX14 and my GSXR 1000 were faster than my Busa though. The GSXR was the fastest from 0 to 60 mph. The GSXR is brutally fast from 0 to 60.
My boy on the Harley, showing how a real man handles his schedule. Friday night at the Eagle, Saturday morning on the drag strip. Same gear in both places: Brando jacket, vintage Levi’s and engineer boots. He may have come second on the race track, but something tells me he was a winner that night back at the bar, especially in that sweaty pheromonal outfit. Rrrrrrr.
That's a bad run for the Busa, at a dragstrip in Xenia Ohio I've been 9.60's at 144 mph on a stock Busa with aftermarket exhaust and powercommander..... it's all about the rider
Just dont take any bend faster than 60mph...Harley's are junk. No horsepower, heavy af, parts are ridiculously expensive and when you buy one you have to sign a paper saying you will always rev it loud as hell at every redlight 10x before you move while playing classic rock loud enough for the whole neighborhood to hear
Test-rode a VRSCB and a Buell 1125R. The V-rod was surprising (if ya kept the R's above 3k). The only thing that made it seem slow that day was the effortless 130mph of the Rotax. If I lived out west where the roads go straight to the horizon, I'd def consider a wet-harley.
The Harley-Davidson V-Rod is so exciting! V-Rod's engine becomes a Porsche at high revs! The V-Rod engine is a direct descendant of the works machine VR1000!!
I used to race at NE Dragway with my brother. We had identical ZRX-1100's at the same time, so was fun to see how they compared. The Harleys were great fun to watch because their huge v-twins would propel them forward in sort of a pixelated, dotted line pulse.
the second gear pull on a v rod feels a lot like a busa, but not as hard hitting. it'll pull hard till about 80, and then the busa will smoke it. the busa, stock, will pull from idle to 105 mph in second gear, and about 90, will start lifting the front wheel, if you don't lose it during the launch like this guy did.. best 1/4 i ever got on a busa was 10.2, but i'm 6'2" and 225, and that is a problem for getting into 9's; i've only ridden a v rod as a rental for one day on maui, and the pull in second is impressive. the bike handles like a wheelbarrow half full of tapioca pudding... afternoon winds on the island kept you from keeping it in a lane, going straight.
The HD rider was acting like an air-brake in that saddle at that speed. His wrists probably grew an inch after the race for having to hold onto for dear life.
The setup and the state of tune determine the engine characteristics. Some v2 like in ducatis are very rev happy and some like in HD are torque focused and have nothing at the top. Same for I4, some i4 like kawasaki concours and yamaha 1300 fjr are torque monsters but revs slowly and have kinda low HP for the engine size.
Nanderlizer Nanderlizer Says 11 second quarter mile is slow... Rides a Walmart Huffy bike. www.zeroto60times.com/vehicle-make/harley-davidson-0-60-mph-times/
Never owned a Busa but, I've owned many a liter-bike...R1, ZX10, zx 1400, and currently own a 2012 V Rod Muscle, a 2013 Screaming Eagle (CVO) Road King. I'd start by saying, if you're going to compare a 1300 busa to a v rod, then why not compare a busa to a top-fueler?...just about as moot in reasoning and in a pissing contest. Want to do another funny comparison?...ride that busa across the country vs a Harley ultra classic, and then jump back on here and brag and boast because the ultra didnt give you life-long spinal and wrist issues! Some people are just plain superficial to all-out retarded with their arguments! The V-ROD was never about a serious drag-bike...was more of a novelty bike catering to a niche-market. But want to bust american chops?...lets get this going then: Super funny?... Suzuki boulevard, Intruder, honda shadow, VTX...we can keep going. Harley never gave a damn about the sport-bike market, and still doesnt. They dont need to. And the reason they dont is the same reason I will always cross the country on a Harley. Whereas the Japs SURE gave a big damn about that cruiser/luxury/road market...so much so they've tried diligently to copy Harley on ever model, right down to the sound...now THATS pathetic, if you ask me. Who out of these manufacturers has tried to copy who the most? There are toys, and there are real motorcycles, and if you'd start a pissing contest over a Harley not showing well on a drag-strip, you're obviously a little boy needing his toy.
skeletor well, lets start by acknowledging a couple facts: 1) Harley and Indian are the two oldest and originals in motorcycle racing, so they in no way need validation in putting out a performance bike...they started the stuff. That said, Buell was the product of more or less one rogue Eric Buell...Not Harley Davidson. To put it in perspective, Eric continued his bikes after being dumped by Harley, using BRP engines/components (Can Am). Eric needed funding, he WANTED to take advantage of both his knowledge of Harley components, as well as any loyalty the moco had for their long term employee. So, they took a chance on their guy, and if they made a profit doing it, so be it. They obviously never had any desire in a sport-bike market, or there'd be a Revolution 1250 engine in a 400 pound chassis up-tuned and eating-up the twisties. It would be super easy for them to take even the first iteration of that Revo motor (1130) and have it turning-out the same numbers as the best jap liter bikes...it's not that they cant easily do it...its that they have no desire in THAT market. THAT market is already flooded, so why not focus on being themselves, which is obviously who everyone else wants to be. The V-Rod was never intended to be a "Sport Bike", nor even a moco strip-ready drag bike. It was only ever intended to be a cool looking muscle-cruiser, that would appeal to a younger and more performance seeking segment. Anyone who ever referred to the V-Rod as a sport-bike has no idea what they are talking about. If harley was interested in building a beast of a hyper-bike, there'd be one in production. Anyone who pits a sport bike against a cruiser and brags about it, needs a life. Anyone who takes their cruiser, and races it against a sport bike, needs a big-wheel, as they obviously still have the mind of a child.
Chopper, I don't think that they set out to copy H-D as the primary motivation. They set out to appeal to that Market segment that is smitten with that kind of personality appeal that comes with the V-twin genre'. V-twins have been a desirable configuration for motorcycles from many different marques since these machines first were conceived and elicit some kind of appeal that is hard to put a finger on. Ride on, each to their own - I'll take a 1959 BMW R-69s for my extended road trips.
DigitalNomad wow..in the entire history of HARDLY..one bike has beat a crotch rocket..and then what it up and disappears in any corner..so a v nob does a decent quarter mile..oh my god..stop traffic..funny how all hardly riders preach it's about cruising and shit..but one video of a HARDLY beating any bike and they spew it's capabilities..
DigitalNomad ha ricer..maybe you should try and see what real horsepower is all about..as a typical HARDLY douchbag ..you every HARDLY is home grown in Wisconsin..lol..they have parts made all over..even in China..and the great willie g even said himself..if it wasn't for Honda helping Harley out 20 yrs ago with quality and manufacturing they wouldn't went belly up..i day enjoy 5th grade kid..You may be there awhile
A modded up VMax can do some serious times. It all depends on stock or how much you modify the bike. But for stock enough to drive the streets a Yamaha VMax May be able to win a 1/4 but not much more then that.
kevoo Jero in a quarter of a mile drag race, there are actually several bikes that could. I own a 2010 VMAX. And I think in a quarter of a mile I could stick with a Hayabusa. If you want 5 or 10 miles of open freeway, that might be a different deal. But for a quick run stoplight to stoplight it's hard to beat me
@JR Selsing J cut tranny and an air shifter on the VMax gets you the win. Also a lowering link and sprawl over the tank and you can grab another 1/10th of a second maybe more. Clearly the ‘Busa is the better bike on the highway or track but the VMax can definitely hang with super cheap mods that no ‘Busa rider would do to his bike because it would ruin the road experience, but do little to the VMax.
I don't like Harleys … but I think this is "Harley misuse". A Harley is not meant to be driven fast. It is meant to cruise. Even a V-Rod has those genes. Btw: I don't like the Hayabusa either.
I don't think the guy on the V-Rod was gettin' it. I had one, and those things are wicked fast if you let the RPM's get between 5,000 and 7,000.... and I have owned all kinda bikes. With the right rider, that 'Rod could have gone faster.
Yea and the suzuki would have still been faster, with a good rider they can do 9's stock. Too bad hardley canned Eric, he was the only one there who wanted to improve harley, but those kids didn't want their "image" to get tarnished by making a bike that wasn't a turd.
So let's be honest, the sport bike will win against a cruiser Everytime. You are talking him hundreds of pounds difference not to mention aerodynamics. If you want a remotely fair race put the busa up against the Buell that has the Harley motor on it
Sean Breidenbaugh ummmm, The VRod will kill and Eric Buell bike heads up like this. On a technical and twisty track the Buell does better but still even against the pig GSXR 1300 it’s a tough win for the much more nimble Buell.
DigitalNomad look at you ..mr troll..tryinv to push the brand so hard..the v nob is great on a quarter..but can't turn for shit...but ya know..its a HARDLY..so buy it ..and enjoy all the 125 HP
I love it when people say "Harley Davidsons are fast" it's like saying "The kid in the special Oylimpics is also a winner." I like to race on track open days on my sports bike (2016 F4RR) and I don't consider myself Casey Stoner, but the Harley Davidsons on the track are a joke. Despite costing more than most sports bikes, the Harley Davidsons are slow, loud, heavy and handle worse than a one legged cat on a frozen pond. I often find myself lapping them on a 6 lap race. When they have bike shows with things like dyno shootouts and even burnout comps, they need a special event to separate the Harley Davidsons. It's just like the special Oylimpics for bikes.
Nobody was looking for the Harley to win haha but the harley haha did better haha than most haha people thought, only losing by a fraction of a second. Besides you dolt the engine was codesigned by porsche. It was meant for speed.
Say what You will Chicago Ray,point BEING............is that the Harley LOST!!! Period!!! When You stick ANY KIND of machine on a "Dragstrip"..........WHAT do You think the purpose for that machine IS here? Lol. It's to see how QUICKLY You can reach that 1/4 mile! And if You have a challenger,it's to reach that 1/4 mile QUICKER than your competitor,PERIOD!!! So who cares if that Harley engine was codesigned by Porsche! It matters about as much as if the Busa engine was codesigned by NASA!!! LOL.
Menom7, I'm guessing after you typed that you stared at your screen with your bottom lip protruding out while you nodded your head, then spent the next hour boring your mom how you schooled me on what the purpose of drag racing is.
Chicago Ray LOL,chances are Ray, is that I'm probably much older than YOU are,(both physically AND mentally), as that's quite clear from your immature comments you've made so far!
I picture you as an overweight 40 year old, with acne, never getting laid and mommy still does your laundry and hopes you'll find a girl, move out and get married. Maybe I'm wrong but trust me, that's the vibe you project. I'd work on that if I were you. BTW, did you punch your left palm with your right fist after that last post? I'm going to say yes.
William Wilkerson and about 5% German and 5% Chinese. Many sport bikes are more American then several Harley Davidsons. (Import laws make Japanese build many parts in the USA and they tend to hate Chinese crap parts whilst Harley stuffs them everywhere on their flagship bikes). Harley is more of a t-shirt and keychain company making more then 95% of their income on merchandise but the Japanese have to earn their money with quality products.
The Vrod engine is designed by Porsche so... that's half the bike right there. And literally every bike one the road has some Japanese / Chinese parts.
I once picked up a Cross Dock load out of SeaTac going to Harley-Davidson. I couldn't read the bills to tell exactly what it was, because they were double sealed. But I know the outside was written in Korean. Think on that.
Chris Worley Designed by Porsche who are good friends of Willie G of HD who used their r&d to help build this engine design but guess what the patent on the engine is Harley Davidson so it's technically a HD engine because they are made built & put together in the HD plant. HD must be doing something right with it because they have won prostock NHRA sanctioned drag races with it for several years now beating Kawasaki & Suzuki 4 cyl bikes along with the now defunct Polaris victory that had raced for 2 seasons then quit ! Those Vrod bikes are running 6.90 - 7.00 second 1000 ft certified NHRA sanctioned tracks at almost 200 mph running on race fuel only .
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the Harley did surprisingly well. Busa lost a lot of time first 60ft trying to keep the front wheel down. Rider maybe could have gone better if he'd wound the power on a bit steadier initially. We all know Busa's are fast, so full credit to the Harley which usually aren't exactly known for high performance
Darren Loughlan yeah but engine is designed by Porsche made in Germany, so not a Harley power plant tho
piss poor Suzuki rider..
True, the Harley was just slightly less than a second behind, really impressive!
@@anonymouslegion4928 it is designed by Porsche, but I dont think it is actually manufactured in Germany. Might be wrong, but my VIN# points to the Harley KC factory, albeit they may manufacture engine and other spares elsewhere… not sure.
V rod was literally designed for drag race
Gotta give it to the V-Rod for making it a close race, and not a blowout like so many people probably expected.
a second in a quarter mile is a lot, the guy on the Busa really didn't do well with it either, he should have been in the low low 10's with it
You should give it to the guy on the Hyabusa for such a terrible launch.
I bet the v-rod has $20k extra parts and work added to it and the Suzuki is stock.
That race was not close..... Lol.... Take the wheelie out and the busa wins by 2 seconds minimum.
@@robbyddurham1624 short wheelbase yes. Stock no. In regards to the busa.
the busa won alright. but i'm impressed with the vrod...
If the Busa had anti Wheelie.... Launch control like they have now, it would have been.... 1st second gear..... Race done. The Harley would still be parking up next to the modded Walking Frames.... Mobility Scooters. Back playing Bingo in the nursing home
I KNOW!!! badass V rod. my dad has one 2006,, they are very quick!! I got a CBR 650R, I would love to race him one day!
@@darylcadman2863 who's hurting you? 😂
@@darylcadman2863 Damn my guy, did Harley sleep with your girl or something? You really took a cruiser keeping up with a speed bike personally lmao
@@darylcadman2863 okay...bro....but....why...you...keep...writing...like...that..
Sometimes there's a winner but no losers.
That V-Rod was surprisingly fast it actually hung in there for a while
Not really. The suzuki rider had a terrible start. That bike should be in the 9's
@@edwardgiovannelli5191 both had a great start the vrod had a good holeshot
First year of production V Rods were geared low and that produced lower quarter mile times but also caused premature engine wear and higher than normal oil consumption, so after the first year the V Rod was given normal gearing which resulted in slower elapsed times.
Busa muffed the start and should have turned a 9 sec.
V Rod would have been considered fast 30 years ago.
He did much better than I expected
If it was a different bike like gsxr 1000 or a Kawasaki ninja it would have been a nice race the hyabusa just got way to much power
That V-Rod is not slow by far, but not faster then the Suzuki Hayabusa, but it's still a fast bike and a cruiser.
Tafari Boozer •Than•!
The Harley made it a quarter mile without breaking down. Awesome!
haha, surprise,and no oil leak at all
Now that is funny as hell! And, somewhat appropriate
LMAO! Love it!
I'm also impressed that anybody with an iq of at least 90 thought a bike w an updated lawnmower engine stood a chance against a busa.
It also applies to the fat jerks that show up at my gym and realize how weak they are, and leave after 2 days of membership. Truth hurts.
I never expected to see the Harley to win , but I thought he did pretty damn good , I am impressed!
11:30? That's a good time for a mid 80's 750... not for a modern 1250.
@@edwardgiovannelli5191 your talking a 4 cylinder vs a twin for cripes sake.
Quarter mile 🤣... what you fail to realize that the Busa ain't even opened up yet... the rod is nowhere near 200+mph capabilitie...stock... that is 💥
Guy in Busa spent most his time trying not to flip over anyways, so... lolol
@@RODZILLA-58 neither is the busa...... As a gen 2 owner. No stock bike is capable of anything over 189.
The HD kept it competitive to my surprise. Good rider
If the guy on the Hayabusa had put the power down without lifting the front tire he could've shaved a bit off of his time, but at least the V Rod was in the race.
On the upside, they both carve the curves like motorhomes.
ya stretched out rake aren't made for turns but any moron should know that
I should of added that the Suzuki Hayabusa does not have an extended rake to the frame like the V-Rod has. So the Suzuki Hayabusa with its standard rake and trail of most all Japanese sport bikes made for corners should handle the paved highways just fine as all reviews for the last 20 years say they will ...but then most morons don't have a clue !
I dunno. Mine carves corners pretty well. Depends on the rider. :)
A stock V Rod is around 115 horse power. The stock Hayabusa has approximately 173 horse power. Horse power = speed. Unless you are running a Top Fuel Harley the outcome will be the same as all of the compact, lightweight, high revving 4 cyl Japanese engines are now High Horse Power. Very hard to beat.
You left out one crucial factor… Weight.
@@izzy031096 Exactly. Power to weight ratio is the most important thing.
Hard to beat the 21st century, impossible to stop evolution. Even in America! 🦾😎
Finally a drag race video that shows the trap speed and time, thumbs up from me😂
That wasn't hard to figure who would win that.
Actually impressive for a V-rod to do a 11.3. Quite shitty for the 'busa to do a 10.3. Shoulda been a 9.3 if he wasn't fucking around pulling a wheelie.
Also, the V-Rod needed rear-sets for this race, Scott. Having to fight the G's to get his boot to the forward-mounted shift under full acceleration, killed the V-Rod, costing damned-near a half-second, by the time he got his foot oriented and all. Couple that with not fully exploiting the Porsche's rev-range and we're talking a second and a half. Meaning the V-Rod should have been competitive, even had the Busa not wasted all the forward momentum with its wheel in the air. I think they both should have crossed the line somewhere in the mid-to-high nines. There's just no way the V-Rod doesn't break 130 mph within a quarter-mile, with the right rider and feet positioned for a drag race.
Kinda hard to keep it down and get less than 10seconds with stock swingarm and suspension
Thought it was a she..
Honestly my 2002 zx6 (not even an R) did 11.5 stock and with slight mods just over 11 seconds and it's only a 600. The Rs ran high 10s. The new zx6r runs 10.7 at 132.
Got an Adv bike that will do 11 on dirt. Suzuki 1050 v strom
Wow!! Surprised at how well that Vrod did. Way faster than I thought.
11:30??? that's what 750's used to do in the 80's... STOCK. The Suzuki rider had a bad start and wheelied, should have been in the 9's
The rod lifted up as well
Yes, but keep in mind that the engine of this V-rod was designed by Porsche. Throw any true Harley-engined bike in, and the result will be far less surprising, just as you thought.
As a Blackbird owner,its good to see the Busa in it's natural enviroment.It's still superfast,and superugly.V-rod looks good though,and I don't even like tractors..
Vrod is just about the only Harley I would proudly own. Along with the fxdr that looks like is their vrod replacement.
Hahahaha: "superfast and superugly" it should be the definiton of the hayabusa!! :)
The Vrod is an engine from the VR1000 race bike made by Harley, they collaborated with Porsche to bring it to the street. There is a documentary on youtube about the Vrod, people who call it a Porsche bike should watch that.
The engine design specs was started by Eric Buell in the 90's, he's been trying to convince HD to build a water cooled OHC engine since the 80's. HD used many of EB's designs to build the vr1000 from the engine specs to the fuel in frame. Many of the design ideas he carried over to his XB series of bikes where he also introduced the ztl brakes, but HD still only letting him use the EVO engine. Hd took EB's ideas and specs to Porsche to build the VRods engine. EB wasnt able to build his own engine until the 1125 and by then HD shut his company down. EB later come out with his own company and gave the motorcycle world his last gift the 1190.
You guys are dreaming, HD approached Ilmore Engineering in the UK, Ilmore built the F1 engines for Mercedes, HD wanted to get into 750 Superbike & knowing a1000 cc twin could qualify as a 750 at the time. They managed moderate success finishing mid pack at Daytona, so Harley decided to withdraw & gave the production rights to Porsche who who now mas produce the engines,definitely the best Harley Davidson that Harley didn't get there air cooled fingers into, no 45deg no pushrods.
Harley race bike, good one.
@@DRAGONFLYSIOUXSIE do some research.
That v/rod should have been the 2007 vrod SCREAMIN EAGLE( destroyer celebretion)special tuneup......!!!!
That was a bad girl wasn't it. 9sec out of the box or something close right ?
@@jatiii Close to the performance of a stock 'Busa with a good rider.
From the sounds of it the v-rod never came up into the power band. My 02 doesn't come to life until 5k.
People can say all they want about how close. But it was keeping the front down on the Busa that slowed it up.....
Had an 02 VRod….it was quick for a Harley. But surprisingly a 1000 vstrom I had was one of the fastest bikes I’ve owned.
Both have roughly the same quarter mile.
V Rod tops out ~5mph faster than V Strom 1000
The Harley gave the Hyabusa a hell of a holeshot!
that V rod is one beautiful machine. too bad they're not built to be as fast as a hayabusa. but that can be fixed by modifying the engine and the transmission
And the hyabusa can also be modified 😁
They'll never beat a Busa unless they replace the tractor engine with a rocket! It's the 21st century buddy 🦾😎
A surprisingly good run by the Harley but the Busa was really slow off the line. Crossing the line at 15 mph faster is reasonably significant for a 1/4 mile.
The Harley did incredibly well, and it is far, far more beautiful with way better sound. Even though I’m a former Suzuki owner, I have to say I would choose the Harley to have in my garage.
People wonder why rockets get stretched. So the front end don't raise up when racing. That V-Rod basically walked off on the Busa & he had to catch up.
The original video has an additional 5 minutes before the race of the safety attendant explaining to the Harley guy why he can’t wear his 1/2 helmet. Lol
Just another day at the beach! HA!
The Busa should have easily done 9s. Respect to the Vrod. Harley torque had the busa off the line.
Ralph Velazquez more like porche torque.
Torque.....not likely. Gearing and physics would be a more accurate statement. The Busa engine make more horsepower and torque by a large margin than the VRod all the way across the board. Anyone familiar with Busa's knows they aren't designed to accelerate in the low end. There are many bikes out there that will give them hell in the first 660ft. After that though.....
Ralph I will grant you the Busa left some time on the track, nine second quarter miles are not done easily by an average rider on average Busa. Please give it go if you have not tried it before. Moto journalist sometimes get those times and sometimes the track density of altitude is high and makes it tough to run quick times. Possible yes but not easy.
wtf do you guys keep talking about harleys imaginary torque? the busa has M O R E torque then the harley...
Ralph Velazquez Porsche torque thank me later.
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Hats of to the Harley, i honestly didn't expect it to keep up anywhere near as well as it did..
It didn't... The busa wheelies, and the rider panicked and let out rather than riding it out better.
motorcycles... one of the best inventions ever.
Cool race, but an apples to oranges comparison. The V-ROD is a power cruiser, plain and simple. It was never meant to compete with sport bikes. Two different tools for two different riding experiences. With that being said, the V-ROD is a quick power cruiser. For a small engine (either an 1130 or 1250cc), it can take out most others in its class that have a much larger displacement.
"Apples to Oranges"..100% correct !
"Small engine"
Outcome was expected but damn, that Harley didn't bomb at all. Quite amazed.
That was very good time for a Harley. I was surprised. I noticed he dragged in jeans to.lol.
Of course he dragged in jeans. He's a Harley Rider don't ya know.🙄
He lives with fear & danger everyday, then he drags his bike now & then. HA!
Harley Davidson, which is very special.. Either it win/loss doesn't matter.
Bad start for the Harley but he still took the first 500 feet or so... Must be the torque.
grabir01 the Hayabusa makes an easy 30ft lbs more peak than the vrod. It makes more at just off idle than the Vrod does at peak. It was the wheelbase that helped it off the line.
He didn't let it wind out enough. That bike makes great power between 5,000 and 7,000 RPM. I had one.
You gotta love the Harley rider drag racing in blue jeans.
He's draggin' everyday on his commute. No big deal.
I love it. That 'busa must have ran a good second or more slower than it can and even then once he put it down and opened the throttle it managed to clear the v-rod by a second anyway.
That 'rod time is actually pretty good for one of them but a lowered 'busa should be in the mid 9's or better depending on mods.
Did you see the dashboard? 10 seconds plastered over there are not seconds any kind of combustion engine can easily achieve...
@@UnleashedEsX Is there an English version of that?
Busa sweet run......V-Rod better than expected
I have had both bikes and the Vrod is a fast bike. My Ninja ZX14 and my GSXR 1000 were faster than my Busa though. The GSXR was the fastest from 0 to 60 mph. The GSXR is brutally fast from 0 to 60.
I’m sure you’ve owned every two wheel power cycles out there bub
@@thomasdamiano8260 I have owned over 60 motorcycles.
My boy on the Harley, showing how a real man handles his schedule. Friday night at the Eagle, Saturday morning on the drag strip. Same gear in both places: Brando jacket, vintage Levi’s and engineer boots. He may have come second on the race track, but something tells me he was a winner that night back at the bar, especially in that sweaty pheromonal outfit. Rrrrrrr.
The blue oyster bar??
The 'busa would have done better if the rider had better control of his launch... high 9's is more like it for that bike
The guy on the harley knows what hes doing
Hayabusa is racing bike but Harley is for royal look and cruise bike.
I love HARLEY
That's a bad run for the Busa, at a dragstrip in Xenia Ohio I've been 9.60's at 144 mph on a stock Busa with aftermarket exhaust and powercommander..... it's all about the rider
V Rod real nice, more than enuff power for any human being.
My VTX1800R WOULD SMOKEM BOTH.
Just dont take any bend faster than 60mph...Harley's are junk. No horsepower, heavy af, parts are ridiculously expensive and when you buy one you have to sign a paper saying you will always rev it loud as hell at every redlight 10x before you move while playing classic rock loud enough for the whole neighborhood to hear
I missed that paperwork. They didn't even require me to swap an actual exhaust system for straight pipes. Did I buy a real H-D?
Wow!
I would be happy with either bike!
Was this re uploaded?
I'd like to see a busa drag a mid 1970's Kawasaki 900 or 1000 that'd be a heckuva race.
Test-rode a VRSCB and a Buell 1125R. The V-rod was surprising (if ya kept the R's above 3k). The only thing that made it seem slow that day was the effortless 130mph of the Rotax. If I lived out west where the roads go straight to the horizon, I'd def consider a wet-harley.
The perfect definition of boredom! 😂
The Harley-Davidson V-Rod is so exciting!
V-Rod's engine becomes a Porsche at high revs!
The V-Rod engine is a direct descendant of the works machine VR1000!!
I used to race at NE Dragway with my brother. We had identical ZRX-1100's at the same time, so was fun to see how they compared. The Harleys were great fun to watch because their huge v-twins would propel them forward in sort of a pixelated, dotted line pulse.
I miss my '92 ZZR-1100...solid bike.
hats off to the VROD. I have a BUSA, but always love the VROD.
the busa won the race, but the vrod won hearts.
That's pretty much what I anticipated.
Nice race. I'll pick the V Rod any day though.
Love sports bikes but I agree I would take a vrod over a busa any day.
the second gear pull on a v rod feels a lot like a busa, but not as hard hitting. it'll pull hard till about 80, and then the busa will smoke it. the busa, stock, will pull from idle to 105 mph in second gear, and about 90, will start lifting the front wheel, if you don't lose it during the launch like this guy did.. best 1/4 i ever got on a busa was 10.2, but i'm 6'2" and 225, and that is a problem for getting into 9's;
i've only ridden a v rod as a rental for one day on maui, and the pull in second is impressive. the bike handles like a wheelbarrow half full of tapioca pudding... afternoon winds on the island kept you from keeping it in a lane, going straight.
solid race overall, the hayabusa pulled away but the v rod hung in there well
Only because of the wheelie by the busa.
You knew the busa was gonna beat the harley when you clicked
would rather have the Harley... But the Busa should win...
The HD rider was acting like an air-brake in that saddle at that speed. His wrists probably grew an inch after the race for having to hold onto for dear life.
pretty quick for a two wheeled version of a freightliner.
This video is a perfect tutorial of differing characteristics between V-twins and I-4s.
The setup and the state of tune determine the engine characteristics.
Some v2 like in ducatis are very rev happy and some like in HD are torque focused and have nothing at the top.
Same for I4, some i4 like kawasaki concours and yamaha 1300 fjr are torque monsters but revs slowly and have kinda low HP for the engine size.
Did anyone REALLY expect the HD to win? 😁
The Yamasuki rider did. Neverous as hell.
@@toddgittins5692 Perhaps he was...
World class Japanese engineering. Unbeatable!
BTW " Hayabusa" is also the name of a Japanese Bullet Train!
The Hayabusa got its name from the peregrine falcon.
Essa v-rod surpreendeu em... Chegou a largar na frente!
The busa didn't eat the v rods lunch, as Vader would say..."Impressive"
That little kid on the Vrod sure can ride... He'll be awesome when he's an adult!
WOW did not know the VRod was that fast, WOW.
V rod 🤘🤘🤘🤘
My V-Rod passed everything but a gas station.
That's great. I'll take the Harley though.
Harley's design hasn't changed since just after 1900 and can never compete.
wow that V rods boy is it fast
Nanderlizer Nanderlizer
Says 11 second quarter mile is slow... Rides a Walmart Huffy bike.
www.zeroto60times.com/vehicle-make/harley-davidson-0-60-mph-times/
william jones right tough to beat engine design built by Porsche made in Germany.
Thats the thing with the cruisers especially with the V-Rod. They are scarily fast and you cant pop a wheelie but you are going fast as hell
Busa left the line first...if they had left at the same time then the Harley would have been even closer.
Nah
LMAO 😂
How well would the Hy have been if he could have kept the front down?
high 9's
Never owned a Busa but, I've owned many a liter-bike...R1, ZX10, zx 1400, and currently own a 2012 V Rod Muscle, a 2013 Screaming Eagle (CVO) Road King. I'd start by saying, if you're going to compare a 1300 busa to a v rod, then why not compare a busa to a top-fueler?...just about as moot in reasoning and in a pissing contest. Want to do another funny comparison?...ride that busa across the country vs a Harley ultra classic, and then jump back on here and brag and boast because the ultra didnt give you life-long spinal and wrist issues! Some people are just plain superficial to all-out retarded with their arguments! The V-ROD was never about a serious drag-bike...was more of a novelty bike catering to a niche-market. But want to bust american chops?...lets get this going then: Super funny?... Suzuki boulevard, Intruder, honda shadow, VTX...we can keep going. Harley never gave a damn about the sport-bike market, and still doesnt. They dont need to. And the reason they dont is the same reason I will always cross the country on a Harley. Whereas the Japs SURE gave a big damn about that cruiser/luxury/road market...so much so they've tried diligently to copy Harley on ever model, right down to the sound...now THATS pathetic, if you ask me. Who out of these manufacturers has tried to copy who the most? There are toys, and there are real motorcycles, and if you'd start a pissing contest over a Harley not showing well on a drag-strip, you're obviously a little boy needing his toy.
Chopper Paul what about Buell. They had sport bikes with Harley engines. PS im not saying you're wrong but I'm not saying you're right
skeletor well, lets start by acknowledging a couple facts: 1) Harley and Indian are the two oldest and originals in motorcycle racing, so they in no way need validation in putting out a performance bike...they started the stuff. That said, Buell was the product of more or less one rogue Eric Buell...Not Harley Davidson. To put it in perspective, Eric continued his bikes after being dumped by Harley, using BRP engines/components (Can Am). Eric needed funding, he WANTED to take advantage of both his knowledge of Harley components, as well as any loyalty the moco had for their long term employee. So, they took a chance on their guy, and if they made a profit doing it, so be it. They obviously never had any desire in a sport-bike market, or there'd be a Revolution 1250 engine in a 400 pound chassis up-tuned and eating-up the twisties. It would be super easy for them to take even the first iteration of that Revo motor (1130) and have it turning-out the same numbers as the best jap liter bikes...it's not that they cant easily do it...its that they have no desire in THAT market. THAT market is already flooded, so why not focus on being themselves, which is obviously who everyone else wants to be. The V-Rod was never intended to be a "Sport Bike", nor even a moco strip-ready drag bike. It was only ever intended to be a cool looking muscle-cruiser, that would appeal to a younger and more performance seeking segment. Anyone who ever referred to the V-Rod as a sport-bike has no idea what they are talking about. If harley was interested in building a beast of a hyper-bike, there'd be one in production. Anyone who pits a sport bike against a cruiser and brags about it, needs a life. Anyone who takes their cruiser, and races it against a sport bike, needs a big-wheel, as they obviously still have the mind of a child.
Chopper, I don't think that they set out to copy H-D as the primary motivation. They set out to appeal to that Market segment that is smitten with that kind of personality appeal that comes with the V-twin genre'. V-twins have been a desirable configuration for motorcycles from many different marques since these machines first were conceived and elicit some kind of appeal that is hard to put a finger on. Ride on, each to their own - I'll take a 1959 BMW R-69s for my extended road trips.
DigitalNomad wow..in the entire history of HARDLY..one bike has beat a crotch rocket..and then what it up and disappears in any corner..so a v nob does a decent quarter mile..oh my god..stop traffic..funny how all hardly riders preach it's about cruising and shit..but one video of a HARDLY beating any bike and they spew it's capabilities..
DigitalNomad ha ricer..maybe you should try and see what real horsepower is all about..as a typical HARDLY douchbag ..you every HARDLY is home grown in Wisconsin..lol..they have parts made all over..even in China..and the great willie g even said himself..if it wasn't for Honda helping Harley out 20 yrs ago with quality and manufacturing they wouldn't went belly up..i day enjoy 5th grade kid..You may be there awhile
Of course the busa wins. The Harley probably needed repairs after this.
Apart from Ninja zxr14 no bike can stand tall against "Busa"
A modded up VMax can do some serious times. It all depends on stock or how much you modify the bike. But for stock enough to drive the streets a Yamaha VMax May be able to win a 1/4 but not much more then that.
kevoo Jero in a quarter of a mile drag race, there are actually several bikes that could. I own a 2010 VMAX. And I think in a quarter of a mile I could stick with a Hayabusa. If you want 5 or 10 miles of open freeway, that might be a different deal. But for a quick run stoplight to stoplight it's hard to beat me
Dude, it's 2008 anymore. H2R, even liter bikes can hang.
@JR Selsing J cut tranny and an air shifter on the VMax gets you the win. Also a lowering link and sprawl over the tank and you can grab another 1/10th of a second maybe more. Clearly the ‘Busa is the better bike on the highway or track but the VMax can definitely hang with super cheap mods that no ‘Busa rider would do to his bike because it would ruin the road experience, but do little to the VMax.
@JR Selsing unmodified with street tires the ‘Busa is almost impossible to beat assuming a good hook up and equivalent rider.
Have a 2002 V-Rod and I raced a Tesla and kept up even with a passenger on the back. These bikes are lightning quick
I don't like Harleys … but I think this is "Harley misuse". A Harley is not meant to be driven fast. It is meant to cruise. Even a V-Rod has those genes.
Btw: I don't like the Hayabusa either.
The V-rod's motor was codesigned by Harley and Porsche. It was truly meant for speed.
jon crane - Satisfy my curiosity... How old are you? Seriously, I'm interested to relate aan age to your comment.
Völl Däpp Harley started as race bikes, the cruiser bit came later. Look it up 👍
I don't think the guy on the V-Rod was gettin' it. I had one, and those things are wicked fast if you let the RPM's get between 5,000 and 7,000.... and I have owned all kinda bikes. With the right rider, that 'Rod could have gone faster.
Yea and the suzuki would have still been faster, with a good rider they can do 9's stock. Too bad hardley canned Eric, he was the only one there who wanted to improve harley, but those kids didn't want their "image" to get tarnished by making a bike that wasn't a turd.
Gotta love that Harley styling it in jeans, it's only a drag race, what could possibly go wrong?
So let's be honest, the sport bike will win against a cruiser Everytime. You are talking him hundreds of pounds difference not to mention aerodynamics. If you want a remotely fair race put the busa up against the Buell that has the Harley motor on it
Sean Breidenbaugh ummmm, The VRod will kill and Eric Buell bike heads up like this. On a technical and twisty track the Buell does better but still even against the pig GSXR 1300 it’s a tough win for the much more nimble Buell.
DigitalNomad look at you ..mr troll..tryinv to push the brand so hard..the v nob is great on a quarter..but can't turn for shit...but ya know..its a HARDLY..so buy it ..and enjoy all the 125 HP
11.3 on the red headed step child of the harley world! Nicely done
When they get to be big boys they ride zx14r.
Usually teenage boys have a poster of those hanging up in their bedrooms I think?
Right next to their Hannah Montana poster 🤣🤣🤣
The Busa bro was kind hearted not to make the Vrod bro look like a complete fool.
Busa let off about three times and still gapped him🤣
I love it when people say "Harley Davidsons are fast" it's like saying "The kid in the special Oylimpics is also a winner." I like to race on track open days on my sports bike (2016 F4RR) and I don't consider myself Casey Stoner, but the Harley Davidsons on the track are a joke. Despite costing more than most sports bikes, the Harley Davidsons are slow, loud, heavy and handle worse than a one legged cat on a frozen pond. I often find myself lapping them on a 6 lap race. When they have bike shows with things like dyno shootouts and even burnout comps, they need a special event to separate the Harley Davidsons. It's just like the special Oylimpics for bikes.
Two wheeled Porsche vs. Japan....
Is it the same outcome if operating cost and durability are compared?
No match
thanks for stating the obvious
Besides a delayed start, whats up with the Harley dude letting off the throttle on every gear change ????
If anyone came here,looking for a HARLEY win,haha,sorry You wasted your time!!!
Nobody was looking for the Harley to win haha but the harley haha did better haha than most haha people thought, only losing by a fraction of a second. Besides you dolt the engine was codesigned by porsche. It was meant for speed.
Say what You will Chicago Ray,point BEING............is that the Harley LOST!!! Period!!! When You stick ANY KIND of machine on a "Dragstrip"..........WHAT do You think the purpose for that machine IS here? Lol. It's to see how QUICKLY You can reach that 1/4 mile! And if You have a challenger,it's to reach that 1/4 mile QUICKER than your competitor,PERIOD!!! So who cares if that Harley engine was codesigned by Porsche! It matters about as much as if the Busa engine was codesigned by NASA!!! LOL.
Menom7, I'm guessing after you typed that you stared at your screen with your bottom lip protruding out while you nodded your head, then spent the next hour boring your mom how you schooled me on what the purpose of drag racing is.
Chicago Ray LOL,chances are Ray, is that I'm probably much older than YOU are,(both physically AND mentally), as that's quite clear from your immature comments you've made so far!
I picture you as an overweight 40 year old, with acne, never getting laid and mommy still does your laundry and hopes you'll find a girl, move out and get married.
Maybe I'm wrong but trust me, that's the vibe you project. I'd work on that if I were you.
BTW, did you punch your left palm with your right fist after that last post? I'm going to say yes.
The V-rod actually has the Honda VT-1000 cc engine. He got a good hole shot, the Busa was slow off the line.
It's the end of the day the Harleys still 40% Japanese
William Wilkerson and about 5% German and 5% Chinese. Many sport bikes are more American then several Harley Davidsons. (Import laws make Japanese build many parts in the USA and they tend to hate Chinese crap parts whilst Harley stuffs them everywhere on their flagship bikes). Harley is more of a t-shirt and keychain company making more then 95% of their income on merchandise but the Japanese have to earn their money with quality products.
The Vrod engine is designed by Porsche so... that's half the bike right there. And literally every bike one the road has some Japanese / Chinese parts.
I once picked up a Cross Dock load out of SeaTac going to Harley-Davidson. I couldn't read the bills to tell exactly what it was, because they were double sealed. But I know the outside was written in Korean. Think on that.
Chris Worley Designed by Porsche who are good friends of Willie G of HD who used their r&d to help build this engine design but guess what the patent on the engine is Harley Davidson so it's technically a HD engine because they are made built & put together in the HD plant. HD must be doing something right with it because they have won prostock NHRA sanctioned drag races with it for several years now beating Kawasaki & Suzuki 4 cyl bikes along with the now defunct Polaris victory that had raced for 2 seasons then quit ! Those Vrod bikes are running 6.90 - 7.00 second 1000 ft certified NHRA sanctioned tracks at almost 200 mph running on race fuel only .
ROBERT RODRIGUEZ That could have been anything including tooling or cnc machines even you should have ripped it open to take a look!
both bikes silly fast....putting down all that power through one wheel is damn hard
I don't know much about bikes, but that Harley looks super sexy!
wow what a race. Both bikes look sick