LGR Tech Tales - The Tragedy of Eagle Computer
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- This episode covers the unfortunate rise and fall of Eagle Computer Inc, and the infamous fate of its CEO. Join me in LGR Tech Tales, looking at stories of technological inspiration, failure, and everything in-between!
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The AVL logo is remarkably modern
I thought that too haha.
It looks super similar to the logos that a lot of Electronic Music promotion channels on TH-cam use.
Yeah, it's pretty
I was thinking EA
It reminded me of the Angels and Airwaves logo
That was suprisingly sad, especially how the poor chap died shortly after making millions. Which I would say is the main reason Eagle ended as it did, having lost the leadership which led to their sucess.
Just shows how fragile companies can be.
to be fair a lot of the success the business had under his management was bc of cutting corners in the development of stolen IBM software that they were later sued for and stuff like that
They collapsed due to ibm stealing eagle computers designs/ computers then ibm sued them out of business
@@Aleph-Noll its the other way around ibm stole eagle computers plans, comouters and software then sued them out of business. Ibm had the money to do this and the courts are rigged
Eagle computers had the worlds first portable computer. 4 made world wide. Ibm stole this. Mictosoft stole there lotus software and called it excel
The 80s were like the corporate wild west, people dying left and right, seedy business deals happening everywhere and everyone suing everyone else. Makes for a lot of interesting stories though.
+Lucetube GPlusStillSux Sounds like the corporations of today....
It's due to the fact that in the 80s, stock investing had resurged in popularity after decades of ignoring them due to the great depression. Plus with advance of several new business and techologies it was free range. Plus people like Warren Buffett and Donald Trump made corporate success attractive in a way. Even Oliver Stone's Wall Street which was supposed to show the bad of Wall Street ended up making it EVEN MORE POPULAR.
Nowadays Kickstarter is sort of the modern equivalent of fhe a "corporate wild west" and just how out of hand everything is.
Joe Jackson
Wrong. Kickstarter is the modern way of taking money from IDIOTS, and giving it to people more deserving. Seriously, supporting a Kickstarter is just as bad as pre-ordering an video game. Only brainless fools do that.
/watch?v=ZPXOvNKdvUw
Come now there are examples of good kickstarters, particularly games, that worked out fairly well. Lisa: The Painful RPG is the one I think of first, and while it may not be everyone's cup of tea, it is exactly as it was advertised.
There are some key words to avoid guys like the one you linked, particularly how much they oversell it, "Spiritual Sequel" and "Next Generation" or even "Revolutionary" are good signs to avoid the project.
Lucetube GPlusStillSux
Yeah, but that's like saying "there are good bets to make in a casino when gambling". The fact remains that in the end gambling is nothing more than throwing your money at the casino in the same way that Kickstarter is nothing more than throwing money to make 1 guy rich.
Have you forgotten Mighty No. 9 so soon?
Is just me or does the logo look like the perfect logo for an EDM artist?
I thought the same thing. Or for an EDM promotion channel.
Avicii
I love these kinds of stories. They satisfy the tech in me, the history buff in me, and my desire to learn new things. Tragic story aside this time, Tech Tales always gives me something worth watching. Thanks, Clint! :)
This stuff is really facinating. Thanks for doing tech tales!
Glad you think so, thanks for watching!
The Eagle One, probably the coolest computer name ever. A lot better than Lisa.
I absolutely love this format of videos from you. Totally showcases all your strengths.
Amazing voice-over? Check.
Ridiculous passion for subject? Check.
Knows how to edit videos perfectly so you never lose interest and by the end you're left wanting more? Check.
Double thumbs up.
Thanks very much!
Indeed, LGR tech tales rank very high in youtube's top content list.
Important lessons to be learned for the future here.
Aye, one would hope!
Check your facts
Can we get videos like this on Alienware, AMD, Nvidia, or really anything relating to how the big players in the PC gaming industry got to be where they are?
Because seriously dude, these Tech Tales videos are simultaneously interesting and entertaining and I want to see more! Great Job!
+Dennis Claros While you mention AMD, ATI Technologies would make a good Tech Tales since they lasted from 1985 to 2006 when AMD took them over and retired the ATI name in favour of the AMD brand name and there was the Nvidia riverly with ATIs Crossfire and Nvidia SLI as well as ATI Radeon and Nvidia GeForce series of graphics cards.
DynamixWarePro Now I want that said in Clint Bassinger's deep sexy voice.
I can't remember who said this (It was either Flabaliki or LGR) but apparently Alienware was popular because of the Sims 2.
You forgot to mention Intel.
A number of large corporations have a policy now that if an employee's pay goes over a certain level (here in the UK usually £50 thousand a year) they have to do a defensive driving course. The reason being the employee can now afford a car that is more dangerous to drive due to its high performance.
That's funny, sad, and kind of annoying. At least people aren't dying
In the US, you just pay some hospital CEO $5000 for a paper cut.
I call BS on this policy. OK, one or two large corporations might have it, but it's certainly not widespread. I work for a HUGE corporation in London, and not only does this policy not exist, but £50K is not a particularly remarkable salary.
Plenty of senior non-managerial staff are on at least that much (managerial salaries start at around £60K), but more to the point, with housing and commuting costs being so high, most people need to be earning nearer £100K to have enough disposable income to buy a real sports car.
@@dunebasher1971 I said a 'number of' not all large corporations. I have worked for more than one corporation where this is policy. So take your accusations of BS elsewhere...
Have you watched "Halt and Catch Fire"? It's kind of like an amalgam of Eagle's and several other computer firms ca. 1983's stories, and I think you'd enjoy it. I'd love to see, like, a mini-review of your thoughts on it.
Yep, looking forward to the third season this year
I was thinking the very same thing even before I scrolled down to see the comments. Great show!
Clint you're doing a great job on these, almost to the point of not being lazy anymore! :-)
My god, LGR knows how to tell Stories. the quality of production is excellent even better than normal LGR videos. Tragic story aside Tech Tales is my favourite on youtube period.
This story should be a movie. i would spend 10 bucks to see it :D
watch halt and catch fire its kinda like this story lol
Some of the details reminded me of Halt and Catch Fire.
Ahh, the good ol' days of 2016...when movies only cost $10. 😄 And going to the theater with other people didn't give you the Plague. Greetings from the survivors of 2020/2021! 😂
Tech Tales is my favourite series on this channel. Stories like this flesh out things I was vaguely aware of during my childhood in the 1980s, but never knew much about.
My dad was a CPA and the first computer he got to do business on was the Eagle II so seeing all that stuff brought back a lot of memories. I used to play around on the machine as well.. well as much as you could there really weren't graphics or anything for games but still found some fun things to do. I never knew what had happened to the company its all a pretty crazy story so thanks for putting this up.
Poor dude survived punching out TWICE in Vietnam and then he dies in a car crash...
+Lovi's corner of awesome That is irony (or karma).
Ferrari crash and Bankruptcy... Doesn't that remind me of Gizmondo...?
Well that's sad.
Business sure is ruthless Great video LGR.
Eagle was a spinoff of AVL... Wonder what happened to AVL...
And shit, talk about a downer, their whole world goes to crap with the death of one man. Shows how fragile the world can be, and how fleeting success is.
And geez, how goddamn fast was that Ferrari going? God, if I ever get into money, the fastest thing I ever buy is going to be a new computer.
Wow.. This was just as sad as Gary Kildall's story. I never even heard of Eagle computers (for obvious reasons)
This was very sad, man. I didn't get permission from my mother to go on this feels-trip. What a great lesson that should be valued for any computer company that's starting up. It's very important to not repeat the mistakes of others. I think I'm gonna go look up the Compaq portable now. That looked very appealing to the eyes. lol
Newish subscriber here. This was my first Tech Tales. Goddamned fascinating and well-researched, sir. I especially liked the fact that you showed the actual articles in your presentation. I'm off to watch more.
Thank you, I hope you continue to enjoy!
These are some of my favorite videos that you do, LGR. They shine a light on many of the forgotten/unknown stories that dot the history of computing, personal and otherwise.
Keep it up. Can't wait for the next video!
Sounds like the plot to Halt and Catch Fire.
+NegiMudkip Yeah, almost exactly. It's just the elements were shuffled around. I'm assuming this is part of where the show got their inspiration.
More tech tales please...
Fuggin' love these. I'm not sure if it'd be a Tech Tale but the story about Enron and the insane amount of money made and lost is generally a great story if no one has heard of it.
I know Company Man did a great video about Enron but I agree that I'd love to hear LGR narrate something similar
How do you get your information? You say it like a TV seasoned pro. I love to hear about computer history and how companies started up and how they finished or got took over. It's truly amazing how many computer companies where out there in the 80s and 90s as they struggled for space on the microcomputer bandwagon.
Books, magazines, and newspaper archives mostly!
Sweeeeet! Another tech tales video! I LOVE this series of yours!
Tech Tales is absolutely my favorite LGR series so far! Keep up the awesome work
more of these tech tales please
These Tech-Tales are the best thing on youtube ^^ please make many more
(and yes, i watched all the old ones too xD )
Kandi Gloss
whats the channel so i can see if they are any good....
Thank you for another fantastic video. I love all your stuff, but i'm particularly fond of the more historical videos. so they are always appreciated. You also have the most soothing voice on youtube, I swear I could learn how to perform successful brain surgery if you narrated a tutorial on it.
So, Clint: have you ever considered loading all your Tech Tales episodes up on a DVD and licensing them to actual computer classrooms? These episodes are some of the most usefully informative from a business/industry perspective I've seen, and could be very beneficial if teachers knew they were available as a resource to show up-and-coming computer techs the pitfalls and wonders of the cutting edge tech industry.
I haven't given it much thought, especially since they're available for free as it is right now. I'd kinda like them to remain that way. But hey, if there's enough demand, I'd be open to it!
Lazy Game Reviews I'm not saying they'd need to be taken offline; merely that a DVD release could be very useful for a classroom setting. If nothing else, I think they could serve well as the basis for a multimedia computer history course :)
The car crash... Suspicious if u ask me.
+rickonami
Agreed
+rickonami jet fuel cant melt steel beams
+Tjorre B
...or dank memes.
+rickonami I was thinking the same thing *cough* IBM *cough*
Tjorre B
...or steel balls
Thanks LGR for existing and doing what you do.
Thanks very much, glad you enjoyed!
+Lazy Game Reviews As someone who enjoys computing, but frankly didn't have the funds to get into it until the late 90's, I'm really enjoying these retrospectives. Keep up the good work - hope your move went well.
Awesome Tech Tales LGR!! Takes me back in time , like walking into the computer stores in the 80s
These stories are the reason I'm subscribed to your channel. Keep the good work up! Thanks
This was so sad :(
Great episode! This show is the reason why I subscribed to your channel and I hope there will be even more LGR Tech Tales.
In another dimension, the CEO never died, and Eagle would go on to dominate the computer industry...
Ibm stole there computers and designs then sued them out of business
Ah man, a reminder of that day when your new computer came with shelf full of big heavy binders and shelf-boxes of software. Because you need to read all that to work the thing.
I was born in Los Gatos... I didn't know anything interesting ever happened there.
These segments are always so well put-together! I bet you wrote effective papers in school.
Really neat how LGR makes something as seemingly mundane as the history of a long forgotten computer company so compelling. Great job as usual.
These are the best part of you channel! Thank you!
Clint, you're so fucking good at making these! Adding to the historical record is laudable.
Great video, also, I just wanted to mention, I really like the music you put in these videos, thanks to this series I found out about Jellica and now Diode
Excellent! Glad to have turned you onto some new tunes :)
Ahhh Clint, you've done it again, the subject matter, the writing, the presentation. There isn't a series on your whole channel that isn't just great, but this has to be the one I look forward to most.
Amazing job as par usual and please keep up the amazing work!
(Also, Interstate 76 review... xD)
+K3NnY_G Me too! I discovered LGR via a Tech Tales video appearing in my feed.
The first PC I ever touched was Eagle PC in 1986 during the summer camp for high school students at KIT(Korea Institute of Technology, now part of KAIST-Korea Advanced Institute of Science and Technology). I like the Eagle PC with slim case and the keyboard slot.
Thanks for bringing that old memory, LGR!
I just got done watching Halt and Catch Fire...and totally understand to a degree how the computer and tech business was when I was growing up. It's such a good show. And such a beautiful time period that includes stories like Eagle computers
I ADORE Tech Tales! So interesting and so well made, a fantastic series LGR!
I LOVE tech tales!!!! It's why I subscribed to this awesome frigan channel last year.
this series is such a great chronicle about a time in history that might be written off. I've watched all of these and honestly I can't really look at a calculator the same again after the video you did about their history. This field has some really cutthroat stories and I'm really happy I have the chance to learn about it in such an enjoyable way. My dad is a telecommunications engineer so I even removed l remember seeing some of the brands that bit the dust. I wondered what happened to emachines and Dell after they seemed to vanish, for example.
man, I've been needing a new techtales for quite a while. awesome vid
Great Tech Tales ep as always! Thanks!
I love these. They ooze quality, thanks Clint!
Next to LGR Thrifts, this is my favorite feature on the channel. The presentation of these is just so excellent.
The serial port Eagle designed was based on a Zilog Z8530 Serial Communications Controller and went on to become an important part of the amateur packet radio development in the later 1980's.
My dad and the company he owned were pioneers in the multi-image projection field. At one point he was one of the top projectionists in the country using this technique. I remember seeing many Eagle and AVL computers in his warehouse. This brings back memories!
These videos are great! My favourite series in your channel :)
Great video! I love the tech tales and the oddware series. I hope you find more topics soon.
As always, great video Clint. thx for the upload.
your reviews and tales are just great!
That was a very well told, concisely put together story. Thanks for sharing this!
Love this series, always so well done
Sucked to be the man, survived 2 shoot downs but died in a car crash after made millions.
Another excellent episode. Thanks again mate! :)
My favorite series. Thanks LGR!
Well edited and written, love you geeky videos keep up with the good work.
Great video LGR, keep them up!
The music mixed with your voice is amazing.
Beautiful work simply and utterly beautiful.
more tech tales please! I love them all!
Always happy to see another tech tales episode.
yay! Another Tech tales! I love it!
I love these! keep them coming!
Yes!! Thank you so much for a new hardware episode!! I love your retro hardware reviews and observations...I loved your IIGS one I had a IIGS when I was like 11 it was great at that time even though I had a 486 DX/66 (I had fried my mobo though) I used it a lot and looking back it was a great machine...I'ma get it back one day, was a Woz edition with printer kensington saver and dual drives 3.5/5.25 with the RAM expansion halfway filled...can't find that for under a 1000 these days!
Love what you do enjoy your vids
brilliant series,thankyou quality production
love these , please do more
Yes! Love me some tech tales! Need more.
Dude... I think Tech Tales has become my favorite TH-cam series.
Had an Eagle and Leading Edge. Ahhh, thanks for bringing back the memories...
Always great and informative as usual. Love your stuff LGR, most of your stuff is about technology before my time and man this stuff interests me. Also Atlantic Highlands nerds rep!
Good upload. Tech Tales and Thrifts are two excellent reasons to always stay subscribed to this channel. :-)
I love all your videos man!
I know you probably do extensive research but im interested to know how much of this stuff you know right off the top of your head. I assume a lot. It'd be pretty fascinating to watch/listen to you sit down and talk to some of these old timer tech guys if you ever got the opportunity.
Please bring this series back!
Another superb episode. Been rewatching your stuff lately, still haven't found a video I don't like. :)
Your videos are incredibly professional!
Nice work making a reference to Dylan's "The Times They Are A-Changin'"!
Sounds reminiscent of the first season of Halt and Catch Fire.
your tech tales are the best, you should do one on 3d Realms all in the Duke voice.
Great video LGR! Also noticed that you've tried to fix the "echo" from the recording (great job on that btw).
Really interesting stuff. Thanks, LGR!
There's an interesting thread on a Ferrari forum about the car involved in this crash, and IIRC Barnhart had already purchased the Ferrari. And it was Sheldon who had come to meet him to look at his Porsche (he was selling the Porsche because he just bought the Ferrari). The two of them decided to try out the Ferrari (I suppose, to see what it would do) and well, Barnhart was killed, and his passenger ended up in the hospital (I don't think he ended up buying the Porsche after this). There is a question of who was actually driving - we'll never know of course. This is the story his daughter posted on the forum after the Ferrari collectors had been saying some wild things about the wreck.
you are awesome more of this series please
Talk about bad luck, holy crap. Great video in any case! Keep the Tales coming.
Was thinking the same thing.
Excellent presentation - Thanks
Love these videos, thank you LGR!