After looking through what MS documentation there was I knew a well thought out break down video would be better. This was awesome! Thanks for the content!
Is REFS as stable as ZFS for a file server for video editing 5 computers sharing same media ? debating whether to use MS Server2019/Storage Spaces or Truenas core? any recommendation?
Good guide. I have another older computer that I want to boost performance on. It has a 240GB SSD for the OS and a 3TB regular spinning disk. Since it is not possible to use Windows storage spaces on a boot drive, is it possible to split the 240GB SSD into two partitions so the OS boots out of the first partition and the second SSD partition is used to create a faster cache tier to the larger 3TB drive where games and other files can be stored?
Nice teardown. Any tips for improving parity write speeds? i bought 4x 4tb seagate baraccuda drives and all work nicely in Raid 0 (780MB read 680 write) but when I try parity setup with 3 or either 4 disks i get 380MB read(which I would be ok with) but the write speed never goes above 50MB... 3 or 4 disks no difference, same read/write speeds... :(
You have to play with -interleave. The problem is that there is no working setup for 4 drives. For perfect alignment you need 3 or 5, then 6, 9, 10, 12. NTFS size = (number of columns-1) * Interleave. NTFS 64k, 3 columns, Interleave 32kb will work fine for you. Here's the command: New-VirtualDisk -StoragePoolFriendlyName "Your Pool" -ProvisioningType Thin -Interleave 32KB -FriendlyName "Parity" -ResiliencySettingName Parity -NumberOfColumns 3 -Size 500GB -WriteCacheSize 0GB
Thanks for the explanation of how storage tiers all come together behind the scenes. I have an issue where I followed your example to create a simple volume but my write performance is terrible. Read is great. When I check perfmon, I see the writes are going to the SSD but I only get around 170MB/sec. Any ideas?
I have a 3 drive parity setup with 4tb a drive and it's like 10MB/s writing speed, so really slow. Is there a way to make it faster without the formatting the drives? It already has 4-5tb of the 6/7 tb data on it, and transferring is back to other drives would take ages :/
Hey! I need some help and you seem to know these stuff pretty well!! I have started a storage pool a while ago with 3 X 8TB HDD's on a windows 10 machine with parity. I store there my finished work (weddings) Maximum space worked out at 16TB at the time. Since then, i've put more disks in the pool (Now 4X8TB & 2X16TB) BUT, the system won't lem me expand the pool because of the small cluster sized i had in the first place. From what info i have gathered until now from YT and articles, i cannot change the cluster size without deleting the pool. This is not am option for me since i dont have the data anywhere else. I'm trying to remove the 16TB i installed yesterday on the pool, (so i can copythe data there and start the pool from scratch) but it won't let me do it. Also yesterday, i switched from Win10 to Windows Server 2022, hoping to let me do more stuff, but i can't seem to find them. As you already have understood, i'm not a power user, not even close. Are there any options for me? Thank you in advance!!!
From my quick math, I think you have enough free space in the pool to create a second virtual disk with a larger cluster size. Then you can copy all your data over your existing virtual disk. Once the second virtual disk has all the data copied to it, delete the original virtual disk, and expand the new virtual disk. Hopefully this strategy works for you and lets you use the rest of the space.
You should be able to move a storage spaces array to a new computer and it will detect the arrays. There can be some issues if your trying to move between versions of windows but I’ve found storage spaces to be generally good moving between hardware.
Thank you for introducing me this Storage Spaces. As soon i watched your other video comparing between file systems, I tried to create a new pool. Then i stumbled upon this video on how to set up tiered storage. Can I add storage tier without losing data from my existing pool? Currently I got 2x3TB with 1TB nvme drive and I want to improve HDD perf with my SSD but I am scared losing the data (yes, I use no resiliency) Can some one help me?
Each drive you add increases the chance of a single drive failure bringing the whole thing down, but, yes, you can add another drive/expand the pool without data loss. But with drives so cheap these days (a 2 TB SSD is all of $100 or less?), I'd at least back up what is needed to an external USB drive at least, as even those are only about $100 for a 4 TB unit...
Nope this won’t add refs to win 10 pro. This just helps with parity speeds with storage spaces. Refs works better with some storage spaces features but probably won’t matter for basic parity array use.
@ElectronicsWizardry Thanks man! Appreciate the input. Just setting up a home media server. I have tried RAID 5 and 10 built into the motherboard and was not impressed.
@mastervorn6380 yea unfortunately windows software raid options aren’t the best. Storage spaces is a complex beast if you want good performance. Hardware raid may be a good option with its own compromises.
I don’t think windows 11 changed much in terms of storage spaces gui compared to windows 10. Unfortunately a lot of settings like interleave and number of columns aren’t show in the gui in desktop windows.
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After looking through what MS documentation there was I knew a well thought out break down video would be better. This was awesome! Thanks for the content!
Incredible help, thank you for taking the time!
Awesome! Tried to figure this out before and just didn't have the patience. This showed me everything I was hoping for, thanks!
Thanks so much for this info. i was reading the MS documentations, and this helps clarify.
This is great information and just what I needed - subscribing now sir. Thank you!
Is REFS as stable as ZFS for a file server for video editing 5 computers sharing same media ? debating whether to use MS Server2019/Storage Spaces or Truenas core? any recommendation?
Good guide. I have another older computer that I want to boost performance on. It has a 240GB SSD for the OS and a 3TB regular spinning disk. Since it is not possible to use Windows storage spaces on a boot drive, is it possible to split the 240GB SSD into two partitions so the OS boots out of the first partition and the second SSD partition is used to create a faster cache tier to the larger 3TB drive where games and other files can be stored?
Cheers mate, good guide. Do you have any guidance on creating HDDs in parity with a single SSD for cache?
That's exactly what I want to know. 4x4TB with parity and a 500GB as a cache
Thank you for your help, just subscribed
Nice teardown. Any tips for improving parity write speeds?
i bought 4x 4tb seagate baraccuda drives and all work nicely in Raid 0 (780MB read 680 write)
but when I try parity setup with 3 or either 4 disks
i get 380MB read(which I would be ok with) but the write speed never goes above 50MB... 3 or 4 disks no difference, same read/write speeds... :(
You have to play with -interleave. The problem is that there is no working setup for 4 drives. For perfect alignment you need 3 or 5, then 6, 9, 10, 12. NTFS size = (number of columns-1) * Interleave. NTFS 64k, 3 columns, Interleave 32kb will work fine for you. Here's the command:
New-VirtualDisk -StoragePoolFriendlyName "Your Pool" -ProvisioningType Thin -Interleave 32KB -FriendlyName "Parity" -ResiliencySettingName Parity -NumberOfColumns 3 -Size 500GB -WriteCacheSize 0GB
Thanks for the explanation of how storage tiers all come together behind the scenes.
I have an issue where I followed your example to create a simple volume but my write performance is terrible. Read is great. When I check perfmon, I see the writes are going to the SSD but I only get around 170MB/sec. Any ideas?
great info, awesome explanation!
I have a 3 drive parity setup with 4tb a drive and it's like 10MB/s writing speed, so really slow. Is there a way to make it faster without the formatting the drives? It already has 4-5tb of the 6/7 tb data on it, and transferring is back to other drives would take ages :/
Amazing video
Hey! I need some help and you seem to know these stuff pretty well!!
I have started a storage pool a while ago with 3 X 8TB HDD's on a windows 10 machine with parity.
I store there my finished work (weddings)
Maximum space worked out at 16TB at the time.
Since then, i've put more disks in the pool (Now 4X8TB & 2X16TB) BUT, the system won't lem me expand the pool because of the small cluster sized i had in the first place.
From what info i have gathered until now from YT and articles, i cannot change the cluster size without deleting the pool. This is not am option for me since i dont have the data anywhere else.
I'm trying to remove the 16TB i installed yesterday on the pool, (so i can copythe data there and start the pool from scratch) but it won't let me do it.
Also yesterday, i switched from Win10 to Windows Server 2022, hoping to let me do more stuff, but i can't seem to find them.
As you already have understood, i'm not a power user, not even close.
Are there any options for me?
Thank you in advance!!!
From my quick math, I think you have enough free space in the pool to create a second virtual disk with a larger cluster size. Then you can copy all your data over your existing virtual disk. Once the second virtual disk has all the data copied to it, delete the original virtual disk, and expand the new virtual disk.
Hopefully this strategy works for you and lets you use the rest of the space.
What happens to the pool if motherboard dies? Can you pull the drive and install in your new window system?
You should be able to move a storage spaces array to a new computer and it will detect the arrays. There can be some issues if your trying to move between versions of windows but I’ve found storage spaces to be generally good moving between hardware.
Thanks a lot. Can we cache an SSD in front of a set of HDD drives set to parity
need 2 ssd .and (Set-PhysicalDisk -UniqueId "xxx" -Usage Journal) just for 4-6 hdd disks.need 4 ssd for 6-12 hdd disks.
Thks
Thank you for introducing me this Storage Spaces. As soon i watched your other video comparing between file systems, I tried to create a new pool. Then i stumbled upon this video on how to set up tiered storage. Can I add storage tier without losing data from my existing pool?
Currently I got 2x3TB with 1TB nvme drive and I want to improve HDD perf with my SSD but I am scared losing the data (yes, I use no resiliency)
Can some one help me?
Each drive you add increases the chance of a single drive failure bringing the whole thing down, but, yes, you can add another drive/expand the pool without data loss. But with drives so cheap these days (a 2 TB SSD is all of $100 or less?), I'd at least back up what is needed to an external USB drive at least, as even those are only about $100 for a 4 TB unit...
Can i use 1 external hard drive and 1 internal drive and combine them using storage space for almost double the speed?
Storage spaces doesn’t support external hard drives so this setup won’t work unfortunately.
i know some network Pros that say MS disk software is "very powerful", but difficult to setup, they would rather just do the Linux based OS's.
I have win 11 and im useing stoage pool, parity. Is it ok to shut down the computer?
Shutting down the computer won’t cause any issues. There may be issues with an unexpected power outage but these events are rare.
@@ElectronicsWizardrybuy an ups for your pc wont hurt your wallet. It is great investment!
I have Windows 10 Pro, does this script activate REFS in Windows 10 Pro?
Nope this won’t add refs to win 10 pro. This just helps with parity speeds with storage spaces. Refs works better with some storage spaces features but probably won’t matter for basic parity array use.
@ElectronicsWizardry Thanks man! Appreciate the input. Just setting up a home media server. I have tried RAID 5 and 10 built into the motherboard and was not impressed.
@mastervorn6380 yea unfortunately windows software raid options aren’t the best. Storage spaces is a complex beast if you want good performance. Hardware raid may be a good option with its own compromises.
@ElectronicsWizardry I was definitely considering parity in Storage Spaces after watching your parity optimization video.
cant be done without a gui? in windows 11
I don’t think windows 11 changed much in terms of storage spaces gui compared to windows 10. Unfortunately a lot of settings like interleave and number of columns aren’t show in the gui in desktop windows.
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Hmmmm ... ;
You're a super smart/nice guy but maybe at the expense of your social life.
Of course it's not my business but I strongly suggest you get a nice hair-cut, put on some nice clothes, & socialize with nice none-smart people every once in a while (that's what I do & it works for me ;)