I think Trunks training with Piccolo will make him and Piccolo much stronger than in canon because they actually trained together unlike the half ass training with vegeta. Just because Piccolo is weaker than Vegeta does not make the better chemistry that he has with Trunks training session ineffective.
Watched till 25:45, and turned out be an adventure of nothing but pure awesomeness. At first, I was weirded out by the access to oozaru at will without moon, but if it actually happened, Anime as we know today, would've had changed forever. This story is nothing but how to use forgotten transformations which could have been great use to story if they were used at their full potential. You earned yourself a sub, sir. Do more DB whatifs. The way you changed OGDB, was perfect. Most TH-camrs try to skip original DB, but you explored that series. Keep doing more DB related whatifs. Your storytelling is incredible.
You do realize the oozaru at will thing comes from the technique goku made in GT so he wouldn’t need a moon for ssj4. It’s basically power ball but in their eyes and doesn’t cost power because it’s sill in their body.
Ten minutes in, a few comments. First of all, I absolutely love how youre clearly building up to goku being able to oozaru at any time. Second, the interaction between goku and krillin in the second tournament is amazing, Goku's answer of "Training." was perfect. Really enjoying this, I'll have to check out that born with god ki one when I'm done!
heres the ingredients for cheese cake 🍰 cream cheese, eggs, sugar, sour cream, vanilla & salt use 2 eggs and 4 tea spoons of everything else the crust is store bought
For what it's worth, Toriyama and other reputable sources fail to take into account that power levels below the 500+ range tend to be more exponential. I'm a bit tired right now and don't want to elaborate, but there is a lot of proof of this in the story. This actually in turn makes the Oozaru much stronger in early DB than in modern, solely based off of their own information.
@@Murk_MatterHis wording is a bit strange, but there actually is basis in what he says. Some dragon ball fans believe lower power levels aren't as simple as they seem, and they've got a point. For instance, Goku at the start of the story had a power level of 10. The average human is supposed to have a power level of around 5. This should make Goku twice as strong as a regular human, right? But no, he can total a car when it hits him and tank gunshots, things no ordinary human can even hope to do in dragon ball. Because of little inconsistencies like this, there's a good number of people that believe power levels, at least early on, aren't as simple as "he has this much power, so he's this much stronger". TLDR; A power level of ten isn't necessarily twice as strong as a power level of five, and it's supported in the story.
It definitely seems to swing more that way sometimes, but at the same time there's far too much inconsistent evidence. All in all.. power levels are bullshit
Thinking about it, another big example would be Goku vs frieza. Goku was only roughly 25% stronger than frieza depending on your sources at the time, based on power levels. With that difference, he had full control for the majority of the fight, basically dominating it. Then you look at earlier fights, especially in the world martial arts tournaments, and power levels that should be a 25% difference go very differently; they'll be fighting dead even or one shotting each other depending on what tournament. Then again you look at, say, zarbon vs Vegeta from the same arc, even. Zarbon after transforming should have a 10-15% boost over Vegeta, not much, but completely obliterates him. It's just.. wonky.
Cell is an amalgamation of the Goku, Vegeta, Frieza, King Cold, and Piccolo from a different timeline. He wouldn't have the power boost from these ones in this what if.
Here’s a what if idea: what if a human character WISHED shenron to become a frost demon/frieza race? Perhaps to gain power to defeat some oþer enemies in þe absense of saiyajins for help?
Fire also I would like what if goku was born half buu half saiyan or what if goku was a half frieza half saiyan or some type of mix that would make goku born with op potential
Umm gohan’s power in canon is enough to fuel buu’s ball half way wouldn’t his experimental form be far stronger and result in a far stronger buu? That’s a pretty catastrophic plothole…
I think it would be a cool twist if master roshi was the king of all sayains from before Vegeta's family took over making Goku's father roshis great great grandson of a stronger blood line then Vegeta's family and what if king ki ordered kame to wish for chi chi, krilan , yamcha teyan to become pure hearted sayains then king ki asks the namecions to wish for master roshi to be young and in his prime which Vegeta would recognize from from his memorys of the former kings of sayains from pictures he's seen and Vegeta learns Goku is the true prince once he learns Goku's father is roshis great great grandson I wonder oh things would turn out if because of this change ?????
More dbs what ifs: What if goku had ultra ego What if goku had the rinnagan What if goku had the sharingan What if goku got ultimate in the saiyan saga later on he gets beast form What if goku could combine forms(any form even the super saiyan forms) What if goku was the monkey king What if goku had cells potential What if goku was half namekien(orange goku stacked with super saiyan forms)
More what if’s: What if goku was trained by dragon ball heroes goku What if goku went to the past to train kid goku What if goku had advanced god ki/destroyer ki What if goku had angel ki What if goku was like jiren What if goku had ofa (instead of kaioken) What if goku was human (make humans have forms) What if goku was a supreme kai
That’s not how that works lol. Goku would have to train his entire life and then some if he wanted to be that strong with just the oozaru form. Forms only increase one’s base power. Oozaru is a 10x increase. Example: 500x10=5,000 SSGod alone is basically a multiplier of 100k 500x100,000= 50Million That’s a huge difference dude, and SSB is basically God form of Super Saiyan, so add another 50x on top of the 50Million. Looking at some outrageous numbers there. Goku would have to spend an eternity training to even dream of being that strong if Oozaru is all he has
Mha what ifs: What if deku had ki What if deku has solo leveling What if deku had an Minecraft quirk What if deku had saiyan forms What if deku was a fusion What if deku was a gem(Steven universe) What if deku had haki What if deku was a quirk less swordsman(zoro) What if deku was a wizard What if deku had a grimore(black clover) What if deku had anti quirk What if deku was sent to purgatory What if deku was meliodus What if deku was an angel(elizabeth 7ds) What if deku had bakugos quirk
Goku much stronger than Tien in your what if because Tien power level 180 and Goku in your what if is 230, When namekian use their big form they don't gain boost from it, so he is bigger but not stronger, yea don't much trained in 4-5 years with Gohan but why his went from 490 to 510 it's very smal boost so it need to be 490 from 600
I think Trunks training with Piccolo will make him and Piccolo much stronger than in canon because they actually trained together unlike the half ass training with vegeta. Just because Piccolo is weaker than Vegeta does not make the better chemistry that he has with Trunks training session ineffective.
I am addicted to this series, can you please continue it?
46:40 He’s just laughing there, MENACINGLY!
Watched till 25:45, and turned out be an adventure of nothing but pure awesomeness. At first, I was weirded out by the access to oozaru at will without moon, but if it actually happened, Anime as we know today, would've had changed forever.
This story is nothing but how to use forgotten transformations which could have been great use to story if they were used at their full potential. You earned yourself a sub, sir. Do more DB whatifs. The way you changed OGDB, was perfect. Most TH-camrs try to skip original DB, but you explored that series. Keep doing more DB related whatifs. Your storytelling is incredible.
You do realize the oozaru at will thing comes from the technique goku made in GT so he wouldn’t need a moon for ssj4. It’s basically power ball but in their eyes and doesn’t cost power because it’s sill in their body.
Ten minutes in, a few comments.
First of all, I absolutely love how youre clearly building up to goku being able to oozaru at any time.
Second, the interaction between goku and krillin in the second tournament is amazing, Goku's answer of "Training." was perfect.
Really enjoying this, I'll have to check out that born with god ki one when I'm done!
heres the ingredients for cheese cake 🍰 cream cheese, eggs, sugar, sour cream, vanilla & salt use 2 eggs and 4 tea spoons of everything else the crust is store bought
For what it's worth, Toriyama and other reputable sources fail to take into account that power levels below the 500+ range tend to be more exponential. I'm a bit tired right now and don't want to elaborate, but there is a lot of proof of this in the story. This actually in turn makes the Oozaru much stronger in early DB than in modern, solely based off of their own information.
Were you drinking again?
@@Murk_MatterHis wording is a bit strange, but there actually is basis in what he says. Some dragon ball fans believe lower power levels aren't as simple as they seem, and they've got a point.
For instance, Goku at the start of the story had a power level of 10.
The average human is supposed to have a power level of around 5. This should make Goku twice as strong as a regular human, right?
But no, he can total a car when it hits him and tank gunshots, things no ordinary human can even hope to do in dragon ball.
Because of little inconsistencies like this, there's a good number of people that believe power levels, at least early on, aren't as simple as "he has this much power, so he's this much stronger".
TLDR;
A power level of ten isn't necessarily twice as strong as a power level of five, and it's supported in the story.
It definitely seems to swing more that way sometimes, but at the same time there's far too much inconsistent evidence. All in all.. power levels are bullshit
Thinking about it, another big example would be Goku vs frieza.
Goku was only roughly 25% stronger than frieza depending on your sources at the time, based on power levels.
With that difference, he had full control for the majority of the fight, basically dominating it.
Then you look at earlier fights, especially in the world martial arts tournaments, and power levels that should be a 25% difference go very differently; they'll be fighting dead even or one shotting each other depending on what tournament.
Then again you look at, say, zarbon vs Vegeta from the same arc, even.
Zarbon after transforming should have a 10-15% boost over Vegeta, not much, but completely obliterates him.
It's just.. wonky.
@@Murk_Matter I don’t drink, so could you contribute something useful instead? That joke sucks
This is a great story!
I would’ve had master mutaito replace grandpa gohan in the baba tournament.
The humans got an amazing story here
Perfect
What if suggestion's: What if Universe 6 and 7 were one...
What if Goku was half saiyan and Half cerelean?...
105M is crazyyyyy
I like to put Cell Saga goku at 300M in base and 15B in SS and Perfect cell at 30B
i only put base cell saga goku at 40 million and super perfect cell at 5 billion
Cell is an amalgamation of the Goku, Vegeta, Frieza, King Cold, and Piccolo from a different timeline. He wouldn't have the power boost from these ones in this what if.
Here’s a what if idea: what if a human character WISHED shenron to become a frost demon/frieza race? Perhaps to gain power to defeat some oþer enemies in þe absense of saiyajins for help?
no
What if Krillin wished to have the potential of Frieza. He would stay human but level like Frieza.
Are you Icelandic?
Underratted
Goku would still meet bulma at the same time at the same place
That wouldnt change
Everything else at the start would be accurate
Fire also I would like what if goku was born half buu half saiyan or what if goku was a half frieza half saiyan or some type of mix that would make goku born with op potential
what would be cool is half saiyan and half tuffle
Or what if goku was born as a half oozaru
Half majin
OP what if's are boring man
Maybe Half saiyan and half cerelean?
Umm gohan’s power in canon is enough to fuel buu’s ball half way wouldn’t his experimental form be far stronger and result in a far stronger buu? That’s a pretty catastrophic plothole…
It wouldn't affect buu's strength
I think it would be a cool twist if master roshi was the king of all sayains from before Vegeta's family took over making Goku's father roshis great great grandson of a stronger blood line then Vegeta's family and what if king ki ordered kame to wish for chi chi, krilan , yamcha teyan to become pure hearted sayains then king ki asks the namecions to wish for master roshi to be young and in his prime which Vegeta would recognize from from his memorys of the former kings of sayains from pictures he's seen and Vegeta learns Goku is the true prince once he learns Goku's father is roshis great great grandson I wonder oh things would turn out if because of this change ?????
I'm sure mecha Frieza was stated to be stronger, or is it because there was a lot less of him left to save in this scenario?
I want to see what if goku was raised by gernola
More dbs what ifs:
What if goku had ultra ego
What if goku had the rinnagan
What if goku had the sharingan
What if goku got ultimate in the saiyan saga later on he gets beast form
What if goku could combine forms(any form even the super saiyan forms)
What if goku was the monkey king
What if goku had cells potential
What if goku was half namekien(orange goku stacked with super saiyan forms)
bro goku already is the monkey king
bro these suggestions are ass 🔥
@@Sigma69420skibidi beast from is exclusive to hybrid saiyans it's not even part of mystic or having his potential unleashed
@@star.boy.369 we don’t know that it hasn’t been stated so 🤷🏿♂️🤷🏿♂️
@@star.boy.369never said that I made a joke
What is it intro song called
Soooo, does the story end with Vegeta killing Goku or are there some missing parts?
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Nappa's full power (not Oozaru) is 7,500. If Piccolo is at 4,100, shouldn't Nappa be able to basically beat the crap out of him?
i thought nappa’s power level was 4,000 i’m not sure if we know his full power power level exactly
@@animeballz7162 That is his starting power. When he really gets going it rises to 7,500. That is why Goku need Kaioken to really hurt him.
@@CosmicGoku529anime states 4000 bruv
@@sabresaiyan4524 First the anime is not canon. 2nd that is his resting power.
@@CosmicGoku529 I disagree with you completely
bro the intro tho 💀
"I have coc@in3 in my school"
just starting and I’m 90% sure Goku is gonna use ssj4 at same point in this story
More what if’s:
What if goku was trained by dragon ball heroes goku
What if goku went to the past to train kid goku
What if goku had advanced god ki/destroyer ki
What if goku had angel ki
What if goku was like jiren
What if goku had ofa (instead of kaioken)
What if goku was human (make humans have forms)
What if goku was a supreme kai
bro these suggestions are ass 🔥
1:13:50
First bam
Wait if Goku could control his great ape like vegeta that means his elite class
Why did he need to turn into an Ozaru to fight Tien?
what if goku had broly
adaptability
Giran is pronounced GEAR-ran.
No super?!
What if Naruto was a sainyan
If Goku can control his Oozaru form he wont need ssjb. He be stronger than super saiyan blue. Like Broly.
That’s not how that works lol. Goku would have to train his entire life and then some if he wanted to be that strong with just the oozaru form.
Forms only increase one’s base power. Oozaru is a 10x increase.
Example: 500x10=5,000
SSGod alone is basically a multiplier of 100k
500x100,000= 50Million
That’s a huge difference dude, and SSB is basically God form of Super Saiyan, so add another 50x on top of the 50Million.
Looking at some outrageous numbers there. Goku would have to spend an eternity training to even dream of being that strong if Oozaru is all he has
That’s also why other Saiyans no longer use great ape
Mha what ifs:
What if deku had ki
What if deku has solo leveling
What if deku had an Minecraft quirk
What if deku had saiyan forms
What if deku was a fusion
What if deku was a gem(Steven universe)
What if deku had haki
What if deku was a quirk less swordsman(zoro)
What if deku was a wizard
What if deku had a grimore(black clover)
What if deku had anti quirk
What if deku was sent to purgatory
What if deku was meliodus
What if deku was an angel(elizabeth 7ds)
What if deku had bakugos quirk
Anime ball Z: i aint reading allat
bro these suggestions are ass 🔥
You gotta start completing your what ifs dude. Not worth watching it incomplete
Goku much stronger than Tien in your what if because Tien power level 180 and Goku in your what if is 230, When namekian use their big form they don't gain boost from it, so he is bigger but not stronger, yea don't much trained in 4-5 years with Gohan but why his went from 490 to 510 it's very smal boost so it need to be 490 from 600
0/10 Too much Ikari, not enough Oozaru
What the hell why did you make vegeta super weak he supposed to 2nd strongest