The ATF have been at EVERY gun show, since the 90's. Back when you could buy an SKS for $79 and a case of ammo for $99, they were walking around the people that were buying them. They would follow us out to the parking lot. Of course they weren't wearing uniforms or have patches on their clothes. They would be in 3 piece suits. They never "shopped" for guns on the tables or looked at anything besides patrons. They're announcing it now, but they've always been there! God bless
My experience is that they are a mixture of people reselling accessories like handguards with a 20% markup mixed with old guys selling cheap flint locks/"collectibles" for $2k-$3k that are actually made in China for tens of dollars. It really is knockoff city there. I don't even see serialized guns selling here.
I go to shows just to gawk with no intention of buying. Just something I enjoy doing although I admit that occasionally something jumps off the table into my hands and screams, "Buy me!" Actually, you _can_ find a deal at a show if you shop for it and don't impulse buy and you just might find that firearm you've been craving that is sold out everywhere. You just need to know what you want, know the going price, know what you're willing to pay and be willing to pass it up if the price is too far out of line. Unfortunately, I find that few sellers are willing to haggle anymore. The best thing about buying at a show is the vintage or used firearms. You can pick them up and examine them before deciding to purchase and here you just _might_ be able to haggle just a bit.
@@EzraWest-d3hlll Good to see you're not falling for the gOtTa hAvE bRaNdOn HeRrErA iN tHe AtF tO sToP tHe AtF psyop... I wouldn't trust that dude as far as I could throw him. lol
Can’t the ATF be done away with? Alcohol and tobacco okay. But take away the firearms away permanently, for the simple fact the ATF is not elected officials. They try to make up laws to suit them.
Been to 2 in the last month in Florida- one in ft Pierce and one in west Palm. Everything is over priced, I just go to get out of the house on the weekends
I stopped going to gun shows years ago. Not just because of what is discussed here. But high prices, & gouging. Plus all the non gun related "junk" being allowed in! Putting it "mildly ". Thank you.
I know people who stopped going to gun shows years ago. America has been destroyed by the Democrats and the large gun shops are particularly to blame for this.
All I can say is I don't trust Trump either. I don't trust, man. Nothing's going to happen😅 I don't go to gun shows anymore anyways is overpriced everybody thinks they got gold in their hands
Yes, I believe it was just an information booth. There were three agents there. I have a registered suppressor and I asked them what it would take to register an AR pistol to an SBR.
What are they going to do. Set up an office in the gun show. Or just walk around and try to entrap someone whether it’s a dealer or individual who is sales his collection 👍🇺🇸
I've never seen any uniformed LE at any gun show I've attended in my area. (West Texas.) If they were there then they were in plain clothes. Same goes for the ATF. If they were there then they didn't make it obvious. I find it unlikely that the ATF has the manpower to surveil all the gun shows across the country - especially with a _heavy_ presence. I've purchase firearms and sundry at gun shows many times and no one has ever bothered me. I picked up a nice SKS at a show a few weeks ago, carried it around slung on my shoulder all over the show and no one gave me a second glance. Perhaps the ATF at gun shows is more akin to air marshals on passenger aircraft. They may be there, but then again they may not. You just never know unless they feel the need to expose themselves. This is going to change? Are they going to start walking around wearing windbreakers with ATF emblazoned on the back? Maybe I'm wrong, but didn't the ATF enjoy a budget cut this year? And don't forget, we don't yet know who the Director of the ATF will be in 2025, but we know that Dettelbach will be booted out on his can. If Blake Masters (or even Brandon Herrera (unlikely)) is put in charge I suspect the ATF leash will get pretty tight pretty quick. For those who want to abolish the ATF, think again. If it were abolished then some other government agency would just pick up where they left off or possibly an even more aggressively anti gun agency might be created. Better to transform the ATF from anti gun to pro 2A. Wouldn't it be nice to have a government agency on _your_ side fighting _for_ your rights?
I'm not holding my breath, Trump already picked a class A gun grabber for AG named Pam Bondi, she has a terrible record of going with the anti gun ideas, very disappointed!
I've noticed in Ohio that most ffls won't even do gun shows anymore because the majority of people get put on what's called delay which is 3 days but the gun show is only for 2 days so our gun shows have been cut by 70%
I've never seen any type of uniformed law enforcement at all ever at any gun shows in indiana . Almost all of them have security but no one that was openly advertizing that they were law enforcement of any type not ATF not even the city/county police
Here in Georgia I’ve been to numerous gun shows in 4 different locations. As a customer I have never seen any ATF presence. At 2 of the smaller shows there were a couple of local police or deputy sheriffs. At the large shows there was security, but I don’t remember seeing “uniformed” police or ATF. There may very well be plainclothes people there, I don’t know. As I am not a vendor I cannot give you any info about their experiences.
I haven't been to a gun show in years, last time I went to a gun show it was in St. Louis before we moved back home to Louisiana, been home for about 3 years now so that makes my last trip to a gun show at last 4 years ago. I remember thinking how expensive things got at the shows. You can't get a deal anymore so why bother. I can go to my local mom and pops gun store, or pawn shop and get in some cases a better deal, or at least the same pricing you get at a show.
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i haven't been to a gun show in 2 0r 3 years the price gouging made me mad. plus it's was getting like a flee market. if i do change my mind and go to another gun show atf won't bother me either way because i won't be doing anything illegal and never have at a gun show. i miss the days when you could get so good deals at the gun shows.papa 😊
If I were a collector looking to liquidate some portion of my collection via a gun show, I would arrange to partner with an FFL who would be exhibiting at the show to run the background checks for anyone wishing to purchase one of my guns. As long as that requirement was clearly posted for anyone perusing my wares, I fail to see how that would run afoul of the ATF. Any sales would go through a legit background check, run by an FFL. Whatever financial arrangements that I might make with the FFL to provide that service would be between me, the FFL and possibly the buyer, if the expectation was that they would pay for the background check as part of the deal to buy the firearm. Or, is there something in the regulations that I am missing?
Been to several gun shows. Only bought 1 gun and had an old guy razor sharpen my pocket knife. Every gun show ive been to wants more then anything is worth. More ATF overreach... just go after criminals ya over paid thugs.
What's the point? The gun shows suck so bad these days... Do they even have guns for sale anymore? The last gun show I attended had overpriced guns and mostly junk for sale. I haven't been to one in probably 15 years... Can't say for sure.
The onky reason i still go to gun shows is becaude i grew up going to them with my dad so i keep the tradition alive. I look for hard to vet items you cant just order and e ery once in a while you see a deal on ammo or accessories but guns are way overpriced nowadays.......its a few hours out of the house and a little nostalgia, crossed with minimal gun p*rn😂
ATF has been at most of the gun shows I’ve gone to in the last few years and it has never bothered me in the least bit. Be polite, be courteous and be friendly. I’ve never witnessed any type of activities where participants didn’t have smiles on their faces. Of course Englewood, FL is a small town where everybody knows everybody. We can all hope that DJT will abolish the ATF or maybe just the F part and let those fine folks chase alcohol and tobacco violators.
Good to see you're not falling for the psyop of... gOtTa hAvE bRaNdOn HeRrErA iN tHe AtF tO sToP tHe AtF ! Derp ... I wouldn't trust that dude as far as I could throw him. lol
I don't want to buy a firearm for anyone except authorized firearm dealer. You don't know where that firearm has been. You don't know who has owned and what that firearm has been used for. You don't know if it was stolen or not. Now on the other hand if you're going to stockpile a collection of firearms for when the shit hits the fan that are off the books and you're going to hide them anyway? Okie dokie
The ATF should be abolished. Trump should shut them down
Should, but will he.
MuH eMpOrEr gOd TrUmP ?
Bahwahahaha
@@Soli_Deo_Gloria_.Kumhole Harryass😂😂😂
They are jerks
Where have you been? I know vendors who stopped renting tables at gun shows because the ATF shows up acting like they own the place.
Remember your local sheriff is the guy that says the ATF can come into your county and do anything or not
The ATF have been at EVERY gun show, since the 90's. Back when you could buy an SKS for $79 and a case of ammo for $99, they were walking around the people that were buying them. They would follow us out to the parking lot. Of course they weren't wearing uniforms or have patches on their clothes. They would be in 3 piece suits. They never "shopped" for guns on the tables or looked at anything besides patrons. They're announcing it now, but they've always been there!
God bless
A paranoid conspiracy theory. You watch too many movies. You're thinking of MIB.
Gun shows use to be a good place to go to get some good deals. Not so much anymore. Don't go to them anymore.
Yep. Now its a knife & chinese nylon crap show.
My experience is that they are a mixture of people reselling accessories like handguards with a 20% markup mixed with old guys selling cheap flint locks/"collectibles" for $2k-$3k that are actually made in China for tens of dollars. It really is knockoff city there. I don't even see serialized guns selling here.
I go to shows just to gawk with no intention of buying. Just something I enjoy doing although I admit that occasionally something jumps off the table into my hands and screams, "Buy me!" Actually, you _can_ find a deal at a show if you shop for it and don't impulse buy and you just might find that firearm you've been craving that is sold out everywhere. You just need to know what you want, know the going price, know what you're willing to pay and be willing to pass it up if the price is too far out of line. Unfortunately, I find that few sellers are willing to haggle anymore. The best thing about buying at a show is the vintage or used firearms. You can pick them up and examine them before deciding to purchase and here you just _might_ be able to haggle just a bit.
Trust me. They have been in there forever. They will still be there after 2025 if the agency still exists.
@@auburn886 the ATF can be done away with in reality
@@EzraWest-d3hlll
Good to see you're not falling for the gOtTa hAvE bRaNdOn HeRrErA iN tHe AtF tO sToP tHe AtF psyop... I wouldn't trust that dude as far as I could throw him. lol
I haven't been to a gun show in about 20 years. Why pay high ticket prices to see table after table of the same over-priced plastic stuff?
Can’t the ATF be done away with? Alcohol and tobacco okay. But take away the firearms away permanently, for the simple fact the ATF is not elected officials. They try to make up laws to suit them.
Does the name Biden help you with that??
@ not one bit
@@EzraWest-d3h My comment was on the fact that they make up their own laws/rules
because Brain Dead Biden told them too!
The government shouldn't regulate alcohol tobacco or anything else. Congress has that job.
and they murder people, because they can
If this wasn't GFG, I'd be able to tell how I feel about the atf.
Not on TH-cam.
Gun shows have been trash for the last 10 years! Deals haven't been there. There is no reason to go to gun shows!
Been to 2 in the last month in Florida- one in ft Pierce and one in west Palm. Everything is over priced, I just go to get out of the house on the weekends
The Venues should ban ALL Federal Agents (and ANYONE who looks like a Fed) from their Facilities.
I stopped going to gun shows years ago. Not just because of what is discussed here. But high prices, & gouging. Plus all the non gun related "junk" being allowed in! Putting it "mildly ". Thank you.
Same here, the bargains, if they exist at all, are gone in the first few hours.
I know people who stopped going to gun shows years ago. America has been destroyed by the Democrats and the large gun shops are particularly to blame for this.
I am too busy looking for guns than to look for the atf
All I can say is I don't trust Trump either. I don't trust, man. Nothing's going to happen😅 I don't go to gun shows anymore anyways is overpriced everybody thinks they got gold in their hands
Went to the Arizona fairgrounds gun show December 6,7,8. ATF was there. Many people walking around selling guns..
How about to hell with the atf
Exactly FTATF! 👍👍👍👍
😲😬🤕
So be it... 🤗
The ATF had a table at the last Wannenmacher Gun Show in Tulsa 2024.
what were they selling
@@shoreguyeastbs like everyone else 😂🎉❤
Information booth.
Yes, I believe it was just an information booth. There were three agents there. I have a registered suppressor and I asked them what it would take to register an AR pistol to an SBR.
FJB!! They are probably selling stolen guns from citizens
No, I don’t have to explain why I have guns going into a gun show. “I don’t answer questions”.
What are they going to do. Set up an office in the gun show. Or just walk around and try to entrap someone whether it’s a dealer or individual who is sales his collection 👍🇺🇸
They aren't going to be there soon.
Sure why not, dont see him stopping chem trails either
I was at a Gun Show today in York PA. If they were present? They were under cover.
Tell ATF to shove it
I've never seen any uniformed LE at any gun show I've attended in my area. (West Texas.) If they were there then they were in plain clothes. Same goes for the ATF. If they were there then they didn't make it obvious. I find it unlikely that the ATF has the manpower to surveil all the gun shows across the country - especially with a _heavy_ presence. I've purchase firearms and sundry at gun shows many times and no one has ever bothered me. I picked up a nice SKS at a show a few weeks ago, carried it around slung on my shoulder all over the show and no one gave me a second glance. Perhaps the ATF at gun shows is more akin to air marshals on passenger aircraft. They may be there, but then again they may not. You just never know unless they feel the need to expose themselves. This is going to change? Are they going to start walking around wearing windbreakers with ATF emblazoned on the back? Maybe I'm wrong, but didn't the ATF enjoy a budget cut this year? And don't forget, we don't yet know who the Director of the ATF will be in 2025, but we know that Dettelbach will be booted out on his can. If Blake Masters (or even Brandon Herrera (unlikely)) is put in charge I suspect the ATF leash will get pretty tight pretty quick.
For those who want to abolish the ATF, think again. If it were abolished then some other government agency would just pick up where they left off or possibly an even more aggressively anti gun agency might be created. Better to transform the ATF from anti gun to pro 2A. Wouldn't it be nice to have a government agency on _your_ side fighting _for_ your rights?
I'm not holding my breath, Trump already picked a class A gun grabber for AG named Pam Bondi, she has a terrible record of going with the anti gun ideas, very disappointed!
I've noticed in Ohio that most ffls won't even do gun shows anymore because the majority of people get put on what's called delay which is 3 days but the gun show is only for 2 days so our gun shows have been cut by 70%
..they've been doing it at long as I've been going to them..since 1986...no problems here in So FL...
This sickens me. I think this sell out will sell us out. Art of the deal.
The best option for 2025 and beyond would for Trump to permanently disband the ATF in January of 2025.
ATF isn't goi g to police anything when they ate dismantled ..I go to gun show every time I am on internet .
I've never seen any type of uniformed law enforcement at all ever at any gun shows in indiana . Almost all of them have security but no one that was openly advertizing that they were law enforcement of any type not ATF not even the city/county police
I saw an atf agent a a gun show once, he was wearing a knee length green dress and a red wig
Screw the ATF they won't put up with that here in Florida gun shows
Give it time!!
Yet tons of responses above say they’ve been in fl gun shows. 😂
Hello I'm ATF AGENT! I will keep my eyes out on you!!!
It will probably just go back to the atf scanning the cars with license readers out in the parking lot again
private sales are private sales especially out in the parkinglots 😁. this note is legal tender for all debts public and private = American money bills
Here in Georgia I’ve been to numerous gun shows in 4 different locations. As a customer I have never seen any ATF presence. At 2 of the smaller shows there were a couple of local police or deputy sheriffs. At the large shows there was security, but I don’t remember seeing “uniformed” police or ATF. There may very well be plainclothes people there, I don’t know. As I am not a vendor I cannot give you any info about their experiences.
Haven’t been to one in Texas. Usually don’t have the money.
I haven't been to a gun show in years, last time I went to a gun show it was in St. Louis before we moved back home to Louisiana, been home for about 3 years now so that makes my last trip to a gun show at last 4 years ago. I remember thinking how expensive things got at the shows. You can't get a deal anymore so why bother. I can go to my local mom and pops gun store, or pawn shop and get in some cases a better deal, or at least the same pricing you get at a show.
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The ATF does not have enough agents to cover all gun shows, they may be able to send 2 agents to a show and have a table there
What happens next??? Background checks before you can get into the gun show??
I forgot about this channel GFG's. I need to catch up!
i haven't been to a gun show in 2 0r 3 years the price gouging made me mad. plus it's was getting like a flee market. if i do change my mind and go to another gun show atf won't bother me either way because i won't be doing anything illegal and never have at a gun show. i miss the days when you could get so good deals at the gun shows.papa 😊
If I were a collector looking to liquidate some portion of my collection via a gun show, I would arrange to partner with an FFL who would be exhibiting at the show to run the background checks for anyone wishing to purchase one of my guns. As long as that requirement was clearly posted for anyone perusing my wares, I fail to see how that would run afoul of the ATF. Any sales would go through a legit background check, run by an FFL. Whatever financial arrangements that I might make with the FFL to provide that service would be between me, the FFL and possibly the buyer, if the expectation was that they would pay for the background check as part of the deal to buy the firearm. Or, is there something in the regulations that I am missing?
will the atf be cracking down on the people who have tables selling beef jerky , jewerly and othe non gun items
I didn't see any at the most recent one in South Florida
Only have seen local sheriffs department present.
Been to several gun shows. Only bought 1 gun and had an old guy razor sharpen my pocket knife. Every gun show ive been to wants more then anything is worth. More ATF overreach... just go after criminals ya over paid thugs.
The atf is Democrat and will ignore trump
Do you enjoy eating sand sandwiches ?
Trump appoints the ATF director.
What's the point? The gun shows suck so bad these days... Do they even have guns for sale anymore? The last gun show I attended had overpriced guns and mostly junk for sale. I haven't been to one in probably 15 years... Can't say for sure.
The dog hunters have always bin snooping around them
It’s my property! FTATF!!!!!!!!!!!
I think I'll just stay away
The ATF stupid till the end.
Gun shows to expensive
Are you bringing any guns in.. Sorry I don't answer any questions.
The onky reason i still go to gun shows is becaude i grew up going to them with my dad so i keep the tradition alive. I look for hard to vet items you cant just order and e ery once in a while you see a deal on ammo or accessories but guns are way overpriced nowadays.......its a few hours out of the house and a little nostalgia, crossed with minimal gun p*rn😂
Will the ATF survive 2025? They may be gone or quieted.
ATF has been at most of the gun shows I’ve gone to in the last few years and it has never bothered me in the least bit. Be polite, be courteous and be friendly. I’ve never witnessed any type of activities where participants didn’t have smiles on their faces. Of course Englewood, FL is a small town where everybody knows everybody. We can all hope that DJT will abolish the ATF or maybe just the F part and let those fine folks chase alcohol and tobacco violators.
Another click bate heading 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 I loved the ammo click bate
I doubt that New atf director under Trump will not be as overbearing
That will last about 3 weeks.
Well the ATF is probably hoping that the
gun-shows will be a thing from the past. 😡
Hopefully this won’t happen in our country! 🇺🇸🫡
NOPE!!!!
Your local sheriff has jurisdiction at the gun show in your county nobody else
MuH tHiN bLuE LiNe...
Right $l@ ve ?
Good to see you're not falling for the psyop of... gOtTa hAvE bRaNdOn HeRrErA iN tHe AtF tO sToP tHe AtF ! Derp ...
I wouldn't trust that dude as far as I could throw him. lol
I don't want to buy a firearm for anyone except authorized firearm dealer. You don't know where that firearm has been. You don't know who has owned and what that firearm has been used for. You don't know if it was stolen or not. Now on the other hand if you're going to stockpile a collection of firearms for when the shit hits the fan that are off the books and you're going to hide them anyway? Okie dokie
Nope