I tried doing exactly what you were demonstrating with increasingly flawed results. No matter what I did, I just could not get it to look right. After studying the video more closely, I realized I forgot my sweet, sweet work Crocs. After rocking those bad boys, all of my canvases are turning out stellar. Thanks for the video.
Tip for tighter 'stretch:" Gesso the edges first, then do the surface of the canvas. The edges will tend to stick in place allowing the canvas to stretch tighter. If you gesso the surface first as shown here the canvas begins to tighten and the edges will pull in some. It makes quite a difference. Really.....
It doesn't matter where you gesso first..if the canvas is not stretched properly from the start, when the gesso dries will revers back to the original flab form..from the start WET THE CANVAS first and then stretch it, then apply the gesso. This is from a veteran artist, I do everything from scratch, the old fashion way..
Another 'tip'.... be careful that the drop cloth is all cotton and isn't woven on a 'bias.' It won't stretch much if its on a bias. I found out the hard way .... back in the 70s when I was in art school.
Nice. One thing though to keep in mind, the 2x2s from the hardware store are often not completely dry and often they can bend later...that can make it a pain if your clients come back with a warped canvas. You can often get a sense for the drier wood if you pay attention to it as you pick it in store
Thanks. I wouldn’t have thought of that. I have a stack of 2x2 and a roll of canvas. I thought I was set. I will bring the boards in from the shed and acclimate them for a few weeks before I try to use them.
The first tutorial on cutting a frame who mentions the type of blade and the thickness of the blade itself to be taken into account. Makes one hell of a difference. Always cut behind your markings and add a small amount to compensate for the width of the blade. Nice tutorial. Thanks. :)
I'm glad you made this video, it's really important for artists to learn this. My College art teacher had us build our own stretcher bars and we learn to stretch your own canvas. We beveled are edges by gluing quarter round and adding finishing nails to all of them, and affixed the corners with corrugated nails. It was a really valuable technique and I continue to use it to this day. Also, any large Hardware store will cut your wood for you ️ ☺️
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@Arlo Francis Thanks for your reply. I got to the site through google and I'm waiting for the hacking stuff atm. Looks like it's gonna take a while so I will get back to you later with my results.
Great tips, thanks! I've made my own stretchers for many years but have never thought of using painter's canvas from a hardware store, I'll give it a try!
Brilliant! Ive been doing this since teaching art , to save the college budget. Just as good as shop bought. Although we used to buy thick calico fabric. Our drop cloth in b and q is rubbish.....very powdery and see through. What you bought was great for the job.🧡
Never thought of buying canvas dropcloth. Brilliant! Can't believe all these years I've been passing that aisle at Home Depot. I'm retired on a limited budget and my wife likes to paint so I try to get the sales of canvas at holiday time at Michaels. This is even better. Thanks! Lots of other neat tips like beveling the front edge.
Watched a few of these videos (canvas making).... thank god for you. A straight talking guy who uses accessible equipment and sounds like K Billy. Thank you buddy. 🤘👍🏼
I'm a hobbyist and was spending a lot of money in cavas. I'm glad I came across this video and thank you so much for posting it. Using the idea I made some adjustments to fit my needs. I already had a bench saw and a miter saw, just had to buy a stapler. I picked up a 10'x6"+ 8 Oz dropcloth @HD and split the 10x6 in 5 pieces of 1" including the blade. The leftover piece I split in 45 degree angle on the bench saw and glued that on the edge of each of the 5 pieces, this way I avoided to create the angle using a planner, which I don't have one. The final width was a little over 1 1/4" (the 2x2 is actually 1.5"x1.5") - I noticed that the 8Oz dropcloth had an issue next day, the fibers seemed to have come apart and the canvas lost a bit of the stretch (maybe the one I bought was a cheap quality), I'll try 10Oz for the next batch. Note: A ballpark calculation - wood + canvas + screws + homemade gesso ~ $50. I recovered the money spent in just 2 canvas, a 32x32 and a 24x24.. I still have wood and dropcloth left for several canvas. Better yet, I can make the size I want when I want it.
Thank you so much for doing this video! This will single handedly save me so much money! I never considered using a painters drop cloth for the canvas. Such a genius idea!
Thanks so much. I had not thought about the need for bevelled edges, you have definitely saved me some time and money, not to mention the environment by reclaiming old wood!
I use 1" x 2" most of time to make frames. But a good idea with the 2"x2". Using a drop cloth it should get tight after you put gesso or try Kilz 2 acrylic primer. I add 2 or 3 coats depends on what I'm painting and sand it in-between each coat. Also a couple of tips put wood glue on the corners and make sure all of the staples are at an angle. Use artist paint or if you want use house paint, use the exterior stain paints. They will protect your art from UV light better and some what easy to clean with a damp cloth, if needed.
I like your plane Jane tone of voice clear and exact... so many people try to over do their voice and talk over enthusiasticly... I like the chill approach
Amazing! You are the best short film I have found that actually shows you how to use the canvas and get it ready for painting. Much appreciated.👍🙏🏴🇬🇧
Awesome advice, it is true, art supply stores often sell stretcher wood that isn't dried properly. So after some time when the painting already hangs on a wall, these stretcher frames start to move out of shape and the client phones up that the painting is not not lying against the wall anymore. This is awful, the only thing one can do is to put the canvass on a new stretcher frame.
I rip the wood lengths with a slight bevel before cutting the miters. Also often preprime canvas on a large backing board and then cut to required size so that finished with neat edges. Looks as good as new, but without the double mortise and tenon joints. Just need to find a method to vacuum plastic seal for good presentation.
I was doing a demo for an arts group with my gallery a few years ago, and although I was painting, there was much interest over my surfaces. I explained how I made my panels, and the response was a real eye-opener for me. In my explanation, I hadn't considered my tools. I've been a working artist most of my life, but I also "make" many things, not the least of which has been restoring my 150 year old house. Over years of countless paintings and projects, I have many tools and can make almost anything. Making your own stretchers is great, but presents a huge caviat to most artists who aren't woodworkers.
This has been really helpful!! My studio painting class is gonna show us how to stretch our own canvases and I have been nervous as hell!!! Now, we are not gonna cut our own wood lol, but the same process and this does not look super difficult as I thought. Thank you for putting a really good video and good tips!
Love finding these legit canvas building DIYs as I’ve found TH-cam has a lot of off-the-shelf bars 🤮 a teacher taught me long ago to buy moulding for the beveled edge. Thank you for this refresher!
I've been doing the same since college (way back in the 90s). I'd like to add one thing. The corner folds. It's much cleaner if you fold one side in, then the excess over to the side, and finally the perpendicular edge over the excess. This leaves a clean seam along the corner and not to the side.
vertseven I absolutely agree on the corner folding However, he did share some very nice information on this video so we can’t be to hard on him. I give him 4.9 stars out of 5
I agree there, plus the finish at the back could have been neater. Just folded in and stapled. The jaggered cut edge of fabric annoys me......or am i just being too fussy?
I just want to thank you for your tutorial. I was suppose to order a photo printed on canvas for my friend for their wedding online that cost about $130 plus tax... but it will not make it on time (If I pushed it to a rush order it's at $250... so I have to made my own by having the photo printed on canvas (by going to office depot, they finished the print job in less than 24 hours) and I used your tutorials to set up the frame. There was a lot of trials and errors because I was not the best at doing this arts and crafts stuff, but I found the mitre box forgiving and I was able to make the photo canvas on time for the wedding. It also saved me some money on materials and shipping as well that I made two canvases and I improved each time I made one. Thank you once more for teaching me this skill.
Awesome video, omg, thanks so much for helping me save some $! Now I won't have to spend on frames. You made this so easy to follow. Keep up the awesome training and work.
Nice to see that I am not alone doing the same process..great to meet you, pal ! I do the priming too from scratch, make my own gesso :)! Keep your folded corners, very "invisible". unless you plan to use some framing!
Wow! My biggest problem solved. Amazing work man and the video was superb. I am just about to launch a Canvas Art business and my biggest issue was figuring out what is the most cost effective way to have the canvas framed. And you did it!
I agree with the background music in4ser, but seriously thanks for the tips, I've looked at a few vids but they all use stretcher bars but I paint a lot and have students so this gets a bit pricey. Thanks again bro please keep making your videos happy days.
Another tip. Use the same tape measure for the entire project. See tons of time where someone will use 2 diffrent tape measures and they can have slight variation especially if it is worn and the end piece willows out it mounting holes. When trying to make something really square those little bits can make your life a lot more difficult. Oh and also I like priming my frame when I used pine from the hardware store. Helps prevent any sap or staining from the pine where it might bot have been kiln dried to the dame standard as actually stretchers
Good advice for wood and drop cloth. The frame part is also useful but a bit time consuming for a non handyman painter. I am going to try without the 45 degree cut.
Hi hi good day over in Trinidad it is a lot of money as well I love how you take your time and tell us in step by step you also take your time to talk so understand it word for word .... Thanks keep up the good work i will try it soon ... You have a bless day
I do just what you showed...but I counter sink the first drill I use with a little larger size bit around the hole I made... Also, after stretching your canvas wet both sides with water and it will tighten like a drum!
There are also lots of recipes out there for making your own Gesso. Also, if after you're done, your canvas is still a bit loose ( and will sometimes loosen more during the painting process ), add a coat of gesso to the back as well. That will help to tighten it back up.
Just made this tonight! All and all the materials for it were $110 dollars for a 40x60” frame. I still have a lot of canvas left over as well as enough wood for at least another project. I would say well worth it! Not including the one time purchase of the tools you are looking at roughly $30 to create a canvas that is $100 at Michael’s and definitely more flimsy. I’ll update everyone how paint takes to it!
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After watching this video I went to home depot purchased the products and I been making canvases like a factory. Lol
2 years later and this is me this week lmao. Relatable.
And 2 months after that.... 😂
😂🤣
3 years later and I hope to be you
I tried doing exactly what you were demonstrating with increasingly flawed results. No matter what I did, I just could not get it to look right. After studying the video more closely, I realized I forgot my sweet, sweet work Crocs. After rocking those bad boys, all of my canvases are turning out stellar. Thanks for the video.
I was reading this so seriously, ready to gain some knowledge from whatever mistake you were making. When I tell you I cackled when I got to the end 😂
😂😂😂
🎉😅
Tip for tighter 'stretch:" Gesso the edges first, then do the surface of the canvas. The edges will tend to stick in place allowing the canvas to stretch tighter. If you gesso the surface first as shown here the canvas begins to tighten and the edges will pull in some. It makes quite a difference. Really.....
can you explain in more detail. What do you mean by "edges?" The sides, not the top plane?
Thank you Thomas!!! This is so helpful. I'm truly grateful.
@@xyzxyz3986 Sorry bout.that..... yeah, the sides.
Great tip!!!✍️✍️✍️
It doesn't matter where you gesso first..if the canvas is not stretched properly from the start, when the gesso dries will revers back to the original flab form..from the start WET THE CANVAS first and then stretch it, then apply the gesso. This is from a veteran artist, I do everything from scratch, the old fashion way..
Thank you for clear instructions without a bunch of unnecessary talking. Just what I was looking for!
Doc, I suspect the case of a boomer.
You are correct.
Another 'tip'.... be careful that the drop cloth is all cotton and isn't woven on a 'bias.' It won't stretch much if its on a bias. I found out the hard way .... back in the 70s when I was in art school.
Nice. One thing though to keep in mind, the 2x2s from the hardware store are often not completely dry and often they can bend later...that can make it a pain if your clients come back with a warped canvas. You can often get a sense for the drier wood if you pay attention to it as you pick it in store
Thanks. I wouldn’t have thought of that. I have a stack of 2x2 and a roll of canvas. I thought I was set. I will bring the boards in from the shed and acclimate them for a few weeks before I try to use them.
VERY helpful ! Thank you
04:07 *canvas drop cloth* - that made my day. Thanks man.
The first tutorial on cutting a frame who mentions the type of blade and the thickness of the blade itself to be taken into account. Makes one hell of a difference. Always cut behind your markings and add a small amount to compensate for the width of the blade. Nice tutorial. Thanks. :)
One of the best how to videos I have seen. Excellent production. To the point, no obnoxious music, and well filmed.
I'm glad you made this video, it's really important for artists to learn this. My College art teacher had us build our own stretcher bars and we learn to stretch your own canvas. We beveled are edges by gluing quarter round and adding finishing nails to all of them, and affixed the corners with corrugated nails. It was a really valuable technique and I continue to use it to this day. Also, any large Hardware store will cut your wood for you ️ ☺️
sorry to be off topic but does anybody know a way to get back into an Instagram account?
I somehow lost my password. I would appreciate any tricks you can give me
@Aden Ernest instablaster =)
@Arlo Francis Thanks for your reply. I got to the site through google and I'm waiting for the hacking stuff atm.
Looks like it's gonna take a while so I will get back to you later with my results.
Can you do a video on how to do this?
Great tips, thanks! I've made my own stretchers for many years but have never thought of using painter's canvas from a hardware store, I'll give it a try!
Brilliant! Ive been doing this since teaching art , to save the college budget. Just as good as shop bought. Although we used to buy thick calico fabric. Our drop cloth in b and q is rubbish.....very powdery and see through. What you bought was great for the job.🧡
The end canvas look so professional done, I think this is a project where you want to mass produced- thank you for generously sharing your know- how 💕
You by far have had the best video. You explained in detail of the process and materials. I will be watching for more of your projects. Thanks
Never thought of buying canvas dropcloth. Brilliant! Can't believe all these years I've been passing that aisle at Home Depot. I'm retired on a limited budget and my wife likes to paint so I try to get the sales of canvas at holiday time at Michaels. This is even better. Thanks! Lots of other neat tips like beveling the front edge.
Bought canvas art online unframed and this helped alot, thank you for showing the cheapest options as well!!
Perfect. Getting back into my art, and this is exactly the info I was looking for. Much appreciated!
Check Amazon for Canvas. Trimaco Supertuff Canvas Dropcloth 9 ft x 12 ft or $15.99
Watched a few of these videos (canvas making).... thank god for you. A straight talking guy who uses accessible equipment and sounds like K Billy. Thank you buddy. 🤘👍🏼
I'm a hobbyist and was spending a lot of money in cavas. I'm glad I came across this video and thank you so much for posting it. Using the idea I made some adjustments to fit my needs. I already had a bench saw and a miter saw, just had to buy a stapler. I picked up a 10'x6"+ 8 Oz dropcloth @HD and split the 10x6 in 5 pieces of 1" including the blade. The leftover piece I split in 45 degree angle on the bench saw and glued that on the edge of each of the 5 pieces, this way I avoided to create the angle using a planner, which I don't have one. The final width was a little over 1 1/4" (the 2x2 is actually 1.5"x1.5") - I noticed that the 8Oz dropcloth had an issue next day, the fibers seemed to have come apart and the canvas lost a bit of the stretch (maybe the one I bought was a cheap quality), I'll try 10Oz for the next batch. Note: A ballpark calculation - wood + canvas + screws + homemade gesso ~ $50. I recovered the money spent in just 2 canvas, a 32x32 and a 24x24.. I still have wood and dropcloth left for several canvas. Better yet, I can make the size I want when I want it.
Thank you so much for doing this video! This will single handedly save me so much money! I never considered using a painters drop cloth for the canvas. Such a genius idea!
J Hanks you understand how to teach and its genius
Thanks so much. I had not thought about the need for bevelled edges, you have definitely saved me some time and money, not to mention the environment by reclaiming old wood!
Wood that decays naturally is not bad for the environment. The paint however would be a short term problem.
I use 1" x 2" most of time to make frames. But a good idea with the 2"x2". Using a drop cloth it should get tight after you put gesso or try Kilz 2 acrylic primer. I add 2 or 3 coats depends on what I'm painting and sand it in-between each coat. Also a couple of tips put wood glue on the corners and make sure all of the staples are at an angle. Use artist paint or if you want use house paint, use the exterior stain paints. They will protect your art from UV light better and some what easy to clean with a damp cloth, if needed.
I like your plane Jane tone of voice clear and exact... so many people try to over do their voice and talk over enthusiasticly... I like the chill approach
Amazing! You are the best short film I have found that actually shows you how to use the canvas and get it ready for painting. Much appreciated.👍🙏🏴🇬🇧
I really appreciate that you mad this video thank you so much!
Awesome! I would never have thought of using drop cloths - THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!
Awesome advice, it is true, art supply stores often sell stretcher wood that isn't dried properly. So after some time when the painting already hangs on a wall, these stretcher frames start to move out of shape and the client phones up that the painting is not not lying against the wall anymore. This is awful, the only thing one can do is to put the canvass on a new stretcher frame.
Very beautiful and well said with clear instructions. Thanks!
I rip the wood lengths with a slight bevel before cutting the miters. Also often preprime canvas on a large backing board and then cut to required size so that finished with neat edges. Looks as good as new, but without the double mortise and tenon joints. Just need to find a method to vacuum plastic seal for good presentation.
You're Awesome!! Every detail and potential question answered!! Thank you.
I was doing a demo for an arts group with my gallery a few years ago, and although I was painting, there was much interest over my surfaces. I explained how I made my panels, and the response was a real eye-opener for me. In my explanation, I hadn't considered my tools. I've been a working artist most of my life, but I also "make" many things, not the least of which has been restoring my 150 year old house. Over years of countless paintings and projects, I have many tools and can make almost anything. Making your own stretchers is great, but presents a huge caviat to most artists who aren't woodworkers.
great thanks ! I am going to make a 60"frame and this will save me about 200$ i agree no annoying music thank you for that ,
This has been really helpful!! My studio painting class is gonna show us how to stretch our own canvases and I have been nervous as hell!!! Now, we are not gonna cut our own wood lol, but the same process and this does not look super difficult as I thought. Thank you for putting a really good video and good tips!
Wow, what a great and informative video! I love how you showed both what you use and some cheaper alternatives. Thank you!
I want to do my own and now I will. Thank you for sharing.
My next project starts today. Thanks for the info. Great video! Keep them coming!!!!
This tutorial is EXACTLY what I needed. Thank you!
Great video, thank you for the advice on more affordable alternatives!
Great! I have already had all the tools in my home. Thanks!
Love finding these legit canvas building DIYs as I’ve found TH-cam has a lot of off-the-shelf bars 🤮 a teacher taught me long ago to buy moulding for the beveled edge. Thank you for this refresher!
Just beautiful!!!! Straight to the point!! Thank you sir!!
Thank you for being direct and clear
So well explained! Thank you! Art supplies can be so expensive.
Thank you! Great info. Short & sweet.
I've been doing the same since college (way back in the 90s). I'd like to add one thing. The corner folds. It's much cleaner if you fold one side in, then the excess over to the side, and finally the perpendicular edge over the excess. This leaves a clean seam along the corner and not to the side.
vertseven I absolutely agree on the corner folding
However, he did share some very nice information on this video so we can’t be to hard on him. I give him 4.9 stars out of 5
#sikhwalarts
I agree there, plus the finish at the back could have been neater. Just folded in and stapled. The jaggered cut edge of fabric annoys me......or am i just being too fussy?
I found a great tutorial on folding corners here:
th-cam.com/video/1pa6S6zaiig/w-d-xo.html
I use the mitre system on the corners, and i use an electric iron to get them nice and neat and tight.
I just want to thank you for your tutorial. I was suppose to order a photo printed on canvas for my friend for their wedding online that cost about $130 plus tax... but it will not make it on time (If I pushed it to a rush order it's at $250... so I have to made my own by having the photo printed on canvas (by going to office depot, they finished the print job in less than 24 hours) and I used your tutorials to set up the frame. There was a lot of trials and errors because I was not the best at doing this arts and crafts stuff, but I found the mitre box forgiving and I was able to make the photo canvas on time for the wedding. It also saved me some money on materials and shipping as well that I made two canvases and I improved each time I made one.
Thank you once more for teaching me this skill.
Nice demo and explanation...thanks for making and taking the time!
So simple way to guide and tellin options with prices and for eveystep how to save money loved it thanks
Fantastic, simple, strong...
Your directions where amazing, even I can do this with simple tools...
Love the DIY part!!!
Thanks!!!
Thank you so much for sharing this information. Great tutorial.
A useful video!
Thanks for the attention to the bevelling.
Thanks. You answered the question was wondering about the actual canvas material.
Absolutely great.
I'm always trying to figure out how to lower cost
Compliments on the calm, clear and concise commentary :)
Glad I found this. Time to break in my miter saw. Love this video! Thank you. Nice crocs! 😁
Clear, concise and uses inexpensive materials. YAY!!
This video has saved and made me hundreds, I make 8x4 canvas for less then $5 and sell them for 200 all day long
Great video. Thank you very much for sharing with us.
amazing,everything from explanation to store items THANKS
thanks man you instruction were clear and now i can make my own stretcher bars!
Very VALUABLE INFORMATION! Thank you!
That’s awesome!!! These prices at art supply stores are insanely expensive
A-Z everything in a short video.... Thank you 💕
Absolutely brilliant! Thank you
Thank you. I will definitely follow your instructions. It is a really good idea.
Thank you for a clear instruction means alot 💖
Thank you very much for your video. You explained the process very clear and also give very valuable information about the costs. Very good job.😊
Awesome video, omg, thanks so much for helping me save some $! Now I won't have to spend on frames. You made this so easy to follow. Keep up the awesome training and work.
BIG thanks! This is so helpful.
Awesome ! no BS learning video. Well done, one of the best I have watched. Thank you Thank you :)
This video is perfect.
Nice to see that I am not alone doing the same process..great to meet you, pal ! I do the priming too from scratch, make my own gesso :)!
Keep your folded corners, very "invisible". unless you plan to use some framing!
Thank you so much!!!! So easy and simple
That was awesome...I don’t know why anyone would unlike this ☹️. Taught me a lot and gave me some great saving ideas!💪💪💪
This was very helpful and thank you.
I enjoyd that, the most cheapest possible way to make canvas and good advises, thanks
Wow! My biggest problem solved. Amazing work man and the video was superb. I am just about to launch a Canvas Art business and my biggest issue was figuring out what is the most cost effective way to have the canvas framed. And you did it!
I agree with the background music in4ser, but seriously thanks for the tips, I've looked at a few vids but they all use stretcher bars but I paint a lot and have students so this gets a bit pricey. Thanks again bro please keep making your videos happy days.
Another tip. Use the same tape measure for the entire project. See tons of time where someone will use 2 diffrent tape measures and they can have slight variation especially if it is worn and the end piece willows out it mounting holes. When trying to make something really square those little bits can make your life a lot more difficult. Oh and also I like priming my frame when I used pine from the hardware store. Helps prevent any sap or staining from the pine where it might bot have been kiln dried to the dame standard as actually stretchers
THIS WAS/ IS a the video I NEEDED! Now I am confident I can build tomorrow!
Great video. Thank you for sharing!
Great video. Thanks for the help.
Absolutely phenomenal, thank you so much
Good advice for wood and drop cloth. The frame part is also useful but a bit time consuming for a non handyman painter. I am going to try without the 45 degree cut.
Love it! Great info!
Nice demonstration. Loved it
Thanks mate
Will save fortune 👍
Hi hi good day over in Trinidad it is a lot of money as well I love how you take your time and tell us in step by step you also take your time to talk so understand it word for word .... Thanks keep up the good work i will try it soon ... You have a bless day
This is genius!! Thanks so much!
I just did this, came out great - thanks for the video.
I am new to this canvas stretching business. Great info. thanks
It is very easy to build one. Thank you…!
Great video thank you! Want to make some large canvases to save money! Good job!
I do just what you showed...but I counter sink the first drill I use with a little larger size bit around the hole I made... Also, after stretching your canvas wet both sides with water and it will tighten like a drum!
This is phenomenal!!!! Thank you so much!!!!
There are also lots of recipes out there for making your own Gesso.
Also, if after you're done, your canvas is still a bit loose ( and will sometimes loosen more during the painting process ), add a coat of gesso to the back as well. That will help to tighten it back up.
Or......just wet the canvas
@@KortovElphame adding holes for keys is needed for it to stay tight after painting
For tight canvas go first with PVA glue and than with gesso.
@IyaEarthseeds which won't be museum quality? the use of PVA glue or not having keys cut in?
Or just warm water
That is very helpful. Thank you for sharing.
GREAT JOB. KEEP IT UP. THANKS A LOT
Just made this tonight! All and all the materials for it were $110 dollars for a 40x60” frame. I still have a lot of canvas left over as well as enough wood for at least another project. I would say well worth it! Not including the one time purchase of the tools you are looking at roughly $30 to create a canvas that is $100 at Michael’s and definitely more flimsy. I’ll update everyone how paint takes to it!
Update please