Greatest Console of All Time: Super Nintendo vs PlayStation 2 - Retro Bird
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 ม.ค. 2023
- We're talking about the greatest video game console and we've got two candidates: Sony's PlayStation 2 and the Super Nintendo. The two consoles I've seen receive the most praise and love over the years.
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Games played: Metal Gear Solid 3 (0:01), Sunset Riders (0:20), Donkey Kong Country (0:30), Okami (0:40), The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past (1:10), Sly Cooper (1:40), Super Mario World (7:28), Final Fantasy VI (7:48)
All great games being played enjoyed the scene where your friend will change your mind about a game haha and also liked seeing that you have suikoden II ps1 jrpg holy grail must have and must play
Someone else who loves Biker Mice from Mars! Heck yeah! Awesome video as always
@TMNT_Zombie if I'm not mistaken Metal Jesus has spoken about this game more than once. 🤘✝️
Retro Bird, could you do a collecting guide for the PS2?
Retro Bird, please do a dirty dog comparison between the Atari (you pick which version) and the Xbox 360. ET landfill vs. The Red Ring of Death.
The backwards compatibility and built in DVD player of the PS2 was such a huge deal, and the variety of quality games on the PS2 is just so good. Action adventure games like MGS 3, Okami and Shadow of the Colossus, RPGs like FFX and Kingdom Hearts, survival horror games like Silent Hill 2, fighting games like Virtua Fighter 4 and Soul Calibur 2, the list just goes on and on. It had something for everyone.
The SNES would still probably be my pick because it took the things that worked with NES games and built on them beautifully. It was the perfect representation of quality 2D gaming.
considering you can play final fights, ghosts and goblins, megamans etc. via ps2 i dont think its that big of a contest. snes has the usual nintendo games and some license games that couldnt be ported to ps1 or 2.
but then you ofc need to call fat ps3 the best console ever. though then ps5 and xsx have tons of those old classics available anyway
I would pick Xbox original over ps2. You get almost the same games to play. And better controller. Better graphics and no lag!. Also a 8gb hard driv instead of these stupid old 8mb memory cards!
Don't forget all the exclusive Xbox only games. There's so many great one !
@@MAL-Collector The original Xbox definitely had some of my favorite exclusives from that generation. Namely Ninja Gaiden Black, Halo, and Panzer Dragoon Orta. And yeah for multiplatform games like Prince of Persia or Burnout 3, I preferred the Xbox version.
@@MAL-Collector my ps2 has a 2tb lol
Dreamcast VS. Wii U would be a good mash-up. It would be Sega VS. Nintendo (Under performing but also Underrated Edition)
Those two consoles definitely have some similarities in a few interesting ways :)
@@RetroBirdGaming please do compare!
Yeah, I think that's a fair comparison. The Dreamcast seems to be held in much higher regard, but I think I'm more of a fan of the Wii U's library.
@@rotallyPumpered not only that but both considered commercial failures, sold similar amounts, offered some new innovations, competed with older established consoles for around a year and then with new next gen ones when they launched.
@@rannarharmaste9857 Yeah, there are some similarities, but i cant help but think objectively Dreamcast wins every time. Dreamcast was technically ahead of its time. The Wii U was technically behind the times.
The Dreamcast had innovative and groundbreaking games like Seaman, Nfl2k, and Shenmue. The Wii U had lackluster spinoff games.
This has hands down become my favorite TH-cam channel! I've tried so many games that I've never played because of you. You helped me discover Rocket Knight Adventures, which is easily one of the best Genesis games that I've had the opportunity to play. Your videos are very informative and hilarious. Keep up the great work! Excited for the next one!
Thank you for that! I really appreciate having you on the channel :)
It's not as good as the OG but the newer rocket knight on ps4 and the like is pretty cool.
As much as I love the PS2 I gotta go SNES all the way, it's been such a nostalgic console for me and Ive made alot of friends off of it!
SNES is great but there's more good games on PS2 than SNES's entire library lol. But SNES has a special place in my childhood unlike PS2.
@@Vulpas PS2 has always been a console where it seems like on paper it should be the best based on sheer quantity of decent games but when I look over the games I truly cherished on it that advantage is not reflected the way it should be compared to a few of my other favorite consoles. And I was there when it launched, was hyped by MGS2, got sucked into GTA3, etc..
Anyhow, I do generally prefer the best SNES titles to the best PS2 titles. So maybe PS2 would win a top 100 games battle, but in a top 50 games battle, I'd go with the SNES all the way.
Absolutely! SNES all the way because PS2 is too modern for my taste
I love both systems but I have to go with the SNES for more nostalgic reasons. I'll def say the SNES/4th generation was the pinnacle of 2D gaming and the PS2/6th generation was the pinnacle of 3D gaming without a doubt.
Ps2>ps1
I think the PS1 feels more like a natural successor to the SNES than the N64 does, and the PS2 carries on that trajectory. Kind of a spiritual legacy like Goldeneye, Perfect Dark, TimeSplitters.
That's because Nintendo and Sony worked on "Nintendo Play Station" for SNES. They never released that. Instead, Sony the saw the chance to release their own console: PlayStation (now as one word) while Nintendo gambled with Philips (Mario & Zelda for CD-i) and they released N64 because they did no longer wanna use CD. That made many games "for Nintendo" move to PlayStation because the developers couldn't fit their games on the cartridges. So they went for CD instead. I think Final Fantasy 7 needed 7 (?) N64 cartridges and that was unacceptable so they released the game for PS1 instead. A big win for Sony. Now Nintendo lost Final Fantasy. But also, Sony wanted a controller more similar to SNES while Nintendo changed the controller a lot for N64.
So this is why PS1 got some amount of "Nintendo vibes". It's a "Nintendo console" without Nintendo's own games plus that Sony won Final Fantasy's future while Nintendo lost it.
Sony's success in the video game business is so much thanks to Nintendo.
I agree. Ps1 and snes were the last great consoles. I love the Dreamcast but it had little experiences going for it like the other two consoles.
@@cjeelde N64 was hot garbage. It had like 10 good games max
@@bigolebot no it had 3 good games:
SM64
OOT
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I prefer NES and SNES everyday over N64. I always rank N64 as Nintendo's worst home console ever made.
I've had NES, SNES, GC, Wii and Switch. Never N64 and Wii U - for a reason...
I'm a Nintendo fan boy but I don't like everything they make. N64 and Wii U were not good enough. These consoles could have been good enough with some tweaks and better game library. But I'm happy that Nintendo learned from the mistakes and made way better consones.
GC was the result from the mistakes with N64. Finally a useful controller!
Switch was the result from the mistakes with Wii U.
That's the sign for a great company. Nintendo learned from their mistakes! They corrected what they did wrong! So I am very happy! But Switch is not 100% perfect. I miss Virtual Console for example. I wish VC could co-exist with NSO :)
@@cjeelde the N64 had way too many problems for its time between 1997-2003 (I'm from Europe so that consoles lifespan lasted until then).
NES - SNES is Nintendo's peak.
I enjoy both of these consoles! I'd give the edge to the SNES, though. I grew up during the 16-bit era and a friend of mine had an SNES (I only had a Genesis). The SNES blew me away with its variety and multitude of quality titles! I'm still discovering "new" SNES titles I never got a chance to play and they still stand the test of time! My love for the SNES is eternal!
I like the PS2 as well even though I only had the GameCube during the sixth gen. A lot of the games I still want to play on it have been re-released on newer consoles, but it still has such a huge library! You can find nearly any game genre on it represented in some form.
I now have the urge to revisit Sly Cooper and the Thievius Raccoonus thanks to the video! I forgot how fun that game was! 😄
Yeah, Sly Cooper is super fun. It kind of feels like a fun variation of Crash Bandicoot.
Hahahaha the wife wheel barrel you around the living room had me laughing out loud way too hard lol. Love your content and how you deliver it.
SNES just had more timeless classics.
I honestly don’t think I could pick a favorite console ever. I love all my consoles for different reasons 🥰
Oh and if I were to pit two consoles against each other I would go GBA vs. DS/3DS
And I honestly don’t know which I would pick over the other, cus yeah, love em both!
That would be another great battle! :D I would pick 3DS, I really love that little machine with at all those playful design ideas in every nook and cranny.
I agree, it's hard to pick a favorite. Opinions like these can change daily depending on a mood or even just a little recency bias. The only reason I can say PS2 is my favorite is because I most definitely have a favorite game and it's only on the PS2. If it wasn't for that one fact, I don't think I could pick.
Interesting comparison. I was a teen during the 16-bit era and a young adult during the PS2. Genesis was my preferred console in the 16-bit, so I kinda go into this comparison free of bias. PS2 had Shadow Of The Colossus, ICO, MGS Snake Eater and a few others that I loved to bits back then. Having said that, the Snes is much more attractive to me now. The Run N Guns, shmups, platformers all are represented well on the Snes. Just recently went through all the DKC games. Good times.
Donkey Kong Country needs a new game. Love the original trilogy to death. Play through all three games at last once a year.
@@Dreeza68955 Oh I agree. Been a long time since we got a new DKC game. One thing I'll say though having never played DKC 3, till recently, I loved it!! There was things about it that I liked even more than DKC 2. I don't understand the hate it gets. Another example of taking the internet with a grain of salt.
@@LittleBigKid707b yeah gets a lot of unnecessary hate, I do agree I would've rather had Donkey Kong for the heavy character, but it didn't ruin the game by any means. Only level I don't like is the notorious lightning level. Just have to sprint through it and hope you dont miss a jump
@@Dreeza68955 If you have a good TV that doesn't cut off the top of the screen the lightning level is fine as you can it before it strikes. It isn't a difficult level.
@@LittleBigKid707b As someone that owns both a Wii and Wii U it has been many years since we got a new DKC but if you never played Tropical Freeze before the Switch port it hasn't been too long.
This video caught my eye because my two favourite systems are the PS2 and SNES. I have to agree on almost all points made. I mean the nostalgia is always strongest with the system you grew up with which almost always meant allegiances to a particular brand. That all said I have grown a huge appreciation for the both the Genesis and original Xbox. Great video.
You make an excellent point about those two generations being the most highly regarded. I agree the library’s for these two is the best, and they stand out against some very awesome consoles
It’s a hard one to definitively say…I have the most Nostalgia for the SNES. Its best games are still hard to top.
But the PS2 made me fall back in love with gaming after years of being away from the hobby. GTA, Nba2k, Madden, Silent Hill 2, Fatal Frame, Shadow of Colossus, etc…Sooo many quality options to choose from!
Crazy because these are two of my favorites. I can’t pick simply because they did different things to perfection at the time they were out. Awesome video!
I was a Sega kid so Genesis was my preferred 16 bit console. And since I was a Sega kid, Saturn was my prefered successor in the 32 bit era, so I didn't get into the PlayStation craze. As a result, PS2 just didn't impress me after Dreamcast, but with Sega's demise I picked up an X-Box, and that blew me away. Bought the 360 when it came out, had the HD DVD drive, and when that died I needed to buy a blu-ray. Well, low and behold PS3 was the same price! Honestly, that impressed me more than any console before it. PlayStation suddenly became my favorite after getting into some of the PS1 and 2 backcatelogs, and kinda made me wish I'd played them sooner. Yeah, the earlier PlayStation consoles weren't as technically impressive as their respective competitors, but some of the exclusives sure were a lot of fun.
Always get a smile on my face when I see there's one of your videos popping up. So wholesome, and pretty funny too. If you ever end up in a dark place for a while, please remember that you have continuously brought smiles to people's faces. No pressure to make more intended, I'm being thankful and I hope you're doing great.
No idea where that comment came from, sorry if it got weird.
I appreciate the positive vibes. Thank you.
Despite having over 50 games for it, My PS2 collects dust. SNES and NES get the most play. PS1 also gets more play than my PS2. I suppose I'm stuck in the 2D pixel-art platformer era. That said, I love how many old-school compilations came out for PS2. I will fire those up every now and then. For the next epic console battle: Tiger Electronics vs. Game and Watch. ;)
SNES will always be best.
I got a hunch feeling that there are probably still to this day more working/ functional SNES consoles than PS2.
You are correct. PS2 is super fragile when ducks dust. Green artefacts all the way
@@vasilas432
Exactly and I know PS2 has the biggest title of games, but what's the point if there aren't any decent functional consoles to continue playing them on?
And zero backwards compatibility support from Sony.
SNES will always be my choice.
@@onetwo6039 System durability is a serious factor. For PS2 gaming and collecting you need to have at least 3 systems for back ups and even then, they will break and you have to keep up replacing them with working ones. Not for me, if so I can play most games elsewhere
SNES console and games is the pride of any collector 👌
Your sense of humor cracks me up and keeps me coming back to the channel
Just found you Retro Bird! Love the content! Great humor too. Thanks!
Welcome to the channel! Glad you're here :)
I like the 3/5 vs. 4/6 generation debate -- it tells you whether someone prefers the refined generations of 2D and 3D, or the more experimental early generations.
For me, I prefer 3 and 5 -- there was something far more magical to both of those. The third generation was most people's introduction to gaming, when everything was new and exciting, and then the fifth generation was the beginning of 3D. Those 3D games were MINDBLOWING back then, and outside of maybe VR, nothing since has compared to that experience.
Funny enough, the 4th and 5th generations are my favorite.
For me I gotta go with the PS2 with the huge variety of great games to play both 2d and 3d along with the backwards capability, plus it was awesome to use it as a DVD player at the time…….but I 200% understand why others would pick the Super Nintendo instead. Both are amazing consoles. It all depends on the person and their interests. :)
SNES wins,.. PS2 introduced the longest load times in gaming history, and was filled with bloatware games on trend from the ps1 and continuing to today. modern consoles starting from ps3 are garbage. (i never owned a Snes as a kid i was a Sega kid, and still i know this :P)
Now there's a nice fair and open-minded view on the subject!
@@dr.decker3623 Yup, agreed. I also always find it funny when people praise the PS2 for being a DVD player, when the original Xbox could play DVD's, as well. So much of what the PS2 gets praised for, the original Xbox was just as capable of doing.
@@dr.decker3623 ps2 wins. With modded memory card you can play in 1080i and have hard drive support by ripping games. Plus way more variety.
No doubt ps2 is the greatest console of all time.
If it has to be between these 2, I'm Super Nintendo all the way. When I think about which library I played more at the time, the SNES was by far the 16-bit console that I played the most, and has the most games of any console in my personal top 10 with Earthbound, Super Metroid, Super Mario World, and Final Fantasy III. The PS2 got played very little by comparison, and has no games that make my personal top 10. More than anything, I played its awesome arcade compilations, and spent a few glorious weeks playing the Metal Gear Solid 2 demo that came with Zone of the Enders over and over, capped off by a nice pile of shmups.
When I think about what I play more now, it's still the SNES library. I go back to those games more than any other console, and 16-bit games more than any other generation. The SNES has a wide variety of games that offer up really unique experiences, whether RPGs, platformers, shooters, puzzle games, or just crazy stuff like On the Ball, Cacoma Knight in Bizyland, Firestriker, Dolucky Puzzle Adventure '94, or who knows what else. The PS2 had some good variety as well, but due to the style of visuals that were popular at the time, there's a same-yness to the visuals of many games. The ones I gravitated to were the ones with more personality in the US- Chulip, Katamari Damacy, Under the Skin, Flipnic... or the shooters like Gradius V.
For me, the PS2 is the third best Playstation even. I'll take the PS4 and PS1 both over it.
All that said, everything is purely subjective. If we're keeping opinions out of it and just going with facts, the greatest would probably be the original PS3, just because it could play three generations of games. Tough to beat that bang for the buck... yet I play it less than most of my consoles.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks this lmao. I had a PS2 during its run and it was awesome for the time But I feel it's actually aged worse than the super Nintendo and the PlayStation 1 era due to the fact of games, haven't really changed much since the PS2 era. They've just been refined so PS2 games feel more dated in my opinion because they're missing quality of life features that we would expect now despite having amazing 3D graphics for the time I feel like the 6th generation games don't really have an identity compared to the snes and ps1 era also 2D games were dead during that generation
So my pick would be the snes and ps1 :)
@@HollowRickmost peoples still pick ps2 cuz games library
ps2 is the golden prime for modern video games
These videos are just getting better and better.
My top list would have X-Men Mutant Apocalypse and Marvel War of the gems for the SNES and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2: Battle Nexus and Budokai Tenkaichi 3 for PS2. The fav gen? 16-bits all the way.
You had me at Biker Mice from Mars! One of my favorites and a childhood favorite. Still regret the day I sold it (and many others). Looking for a deal to add it back to the collection some day.. *Puts knife away too*
That last bit at the end of the video was really funny lol
You look sorta like my neighborhood childhood friend who I used to game with after school , and I'm lacking in friends as an adult these days... :( You seem like you could be an awesome friend, your humor contrasts my dark humor!
In terms of fun debates, an interesting one would be pitting several consoles from the same company against each other, for example the ps1 vs the ps4 or the n64 vs the wii u. I loved the ranking video you did of the Nintendo handhelds btw. But I think it would be even more interesting directly comparing just 2.
I love how this channel is picking up the mantle that CGR dropped when they stopped. We need these kinds of voices and perspectives in gaming!
The CGR channel has been hinting at coming back lately. We'll have to keep an eye on that.
Any mention of Super Black Bass (SNES) is much appreciated!!
Man, the faces you make are priceless.
I can't decide until I collect and complete every game released for both consoles
No purple switches on the UK Snes 😊 i found it so strange when i went to the US and saw how radically different the console and game carts were for that system...
I was playin my SNES alongside my PS2 after skippin ps1/n64 gen. I love them both so much. PS2 is a more complete game system but I choose SNES cuz I just love 2D games and sprites!
SNES And PS2 Amazing Memories In The 90s And 00s The 80s Were Good Too Enjoy Your Week Retro Bird Thanks For All Your Dedicated Work
I like the purple power button!!
How about Saturn vs Dreamcast. 2 systems that seemed to be failures at the time but have a big fan base now.
I actually did a Genesis vs Saturn vs Dreamcast video. You can watch it here if interested: th-cam.com/video/R4zLU__RNd4/w-d-xo.html
SNES for me. Something about that 2D pixel art that always hits the spot. However, major credit to the PS2 for being so versatile with being backwards compatible playing Playstation games and watch DVDs.
Haha. DVD's are obsolete. Yeah that was awesome when the system 1st came out. Yeah it's the best to have for PS1 games. If you are talking actual PS2 games (not compilations) The system sucks a lot.
@@tonyp9313 there are many absolute classic ps2 games, silly. Silly billy, you. You silly lil billsers. Goofy goblin, you. Go to your room.
@@JacksonOfTheJerry Yeah you are right. They are irrelevant though since blu rays & 4K are a lot better.
@@eleven9286 I am in my room. Another thing about PS2, the games are made on dvd's so the sound & pic quality are compressed. You can actually here the difference in sound in a PS2 vs a PS1 game that are made on cd's. The sound on cd's are a lot better than a dvd.
@@tonyp9313 You have to understand my perspective though. I was a kid when both these systems came out so DVDs was the new media and a big deal in the early 2000's
Bro. You had me by the 15 second marker. lmao.
The PS2 was my very first console. I bought it at age 13 with my own money. Played PC games up till then. I loved it and spent thousands of hours on it. Most of my favorite games were later ported to PS3 or PC so I play them there, but you can't deny the impact, quality and variety the PS2 had.
Yeah you can
You can’t have an opinion if ps2 was your first console. I’m sorry young fella
Hey Bird! Thank you for another great video. You're discussion videos are always top shelf. As for my opinion on the subject, I have to go with PS2. I love them both and they both have so many awesome games, but I had a Genesis during the 4th gen so that was my great love then, and I had a PS2 during the the 6th gen. Although I now have everything from the 3rd gen on, there's an attachment to what you had when it was current. Going back and appreciating other things just doesn't have the same impact on you. I guess it comes down to what you're nostalgic for.
Do you have the FM Towns Marty or the Amstrad GX4000
Um.. no.. you're right, I should have been more specific in my generic reference. I'm American, I really only have what was commercially available within my own national borders. I'm sure the FmTowns and the Amstrad were fine consoles in there respect countries, but weren't really hot sellers where I grew up. I apologize for the confusion on this point.
Thank you for watching Matthew :)
@@matthewheupel8960 I’m joking. Even I don’t have the Fairchild Channel F believe it or not.
Awesome vid, RB. Both consoless are wonderful. I play both of them on PC, sometimes in the same day. The 3DO vs Vita would be a fun watch. I play most SNES games on my Vita these days. It's not a perfect SNES emulation machine, but it is very good overall.
I love that you mentioned Biker Mice From Mars.
Just an amazing yet underated game. Beats Mario Kart for me personally
PS2 is overrated. MGS2 is the GOAT however.
SNES library feels more timeless. You can always pop on Donkey Kong Country and play for 15 minutes.
The best answer is checking which console's graphical style is being adapted for nostalgia.
Snes, NES then PS1/2
This video comes as I'm sitting here making my own youtube video about which game console I think is the best lol
Holy shit, what a tough choice. I grew up in the 80’s, so I might have to go with the Super Nintendo. But there’s no denying how amazing the PS2 was and how amazing the PS2 library is.
Top 3 eh? I will put in double effort and give you my top 6!
1. SNES
2. N64
3. PS1
4. PS2
5. Gamecube
6. Dreamcast
The SNES and PS2 has a lot of hidden gems I'm still looking for
A lot of my top 10 favorites are from the 6th and 4th generations. My favorite console is the PS2(because I get the PS1 library as well) but my favorite generation is the 4th generation. 6th gen was the last generation I was a hardcore gamer. While I put tons of hours in Bioware titles & COD MW - Black Ops, I started isolating to only playing series I grew up with. Creating 3 Shepards, 4 Grey Warderns, and Prestiging 2 - 3 times; I missed out on Lollipop Chainsaw. Which I'm playing through now as it is a fun stupid game I can pick up and play in a short amount of time.
It is an objective fact that these two consoles were both absolutely legendary, not my opinion.
I absolutely love the purple switches, seems like you need to update that list
Your videos are so hilarious, they are fun!
I have around 80 games each. Last played on each were Star Wars Battlefront II and Super Mario All-Stars. Battlefront is the better game but I play the SNES more often.
For me, 2D's last hurrah in the market space (before the resurgence of indies) was absolutely on the DS (and to an extent the PSP as well). During the exploding budgets of HD gaming, but before the rise of mobile gaming, handhelds were the last bastion for creative, low budget experiments. I don't mean to belabor your aversion to the DS and its games but it really does surprise me that you haven't found more to your taste there, considering in a lot of ways it melds the 2D renaissance of the 16-bit era with the huge library and install-base that the PS2 offered.
I totally agree as these two beign the best consoles, both with great games and different experiences, the only reason to choose for me, the one edge, is the retro-compatibility of the PS2 with PS games, specialy cool for me at the time since I never owned a PS1, a lot of new games to have for cheap then. But great also for peoples hving the PS1 with a lot of game already (and not having to play with the inversed PS1 to try to make it work lol.
Both consoles are nostalgic to me but for very different reasons. I played the SNES (and the NES) as a kid but the PS2 was the first home console that I bought myself to enjoy some free times after the not very fun job of clerk.
As for the second question, a fun debate between consoles could be high class ultra-expansive consoles like Neo Geo VS Capcom Power System Changer :P
I am in a huge retro binge lately. Definitely playing a lot of Genesis (just refinished Rocket Knight) NES and SNES.
3:57 I died at this part lol! My top ten SNES list would be mostly puzzle games that span even into the super famicom area, and my favorite SNES game is Super Aleste. It’s such a fun shmup that isn’t impossibly difficult like so many others, yet it still feels very rewarding. As far as the 6th gen goes I would have to agree with you regarding the GameCube holding up much better IMO, and the Xbox had some awesome games too. Halo 2 parties are still great times! Dodonpachi DouJou, or however it’s spelled, is getting a rerelease but M2 btw!!! I know liking modern games for their graphics is like dating a beautiful girl with a terrible personality, however, depending on how Spider-Man 2 for the PS5 is it might be my new favorite system of all time. It feels weird saying that lol.
First frame is MGS3. Liked!
I recall PS2 was able to play DVDs & the ever famous still able to play PS1 games. Which is the next Gen of gamers demand when consoles move forward. With that said the old school gamers like myself like the Super Nintendo because it ported over all the classics, but Super Charged! My son would agree PS2 started it all for his generation & like me telling stories of how things use to be I go with Super Nintendo now that there was how a console was done right i tell ya! In my opinion the switch is bringing our two worlds together new generation & old school games like myself. Still don't play together, but on the same console. Now for the biggest choice of all watch another Retro Bird Video or play video games?
That's a tough one, both have great games, both have cheese games too. But I'm going to go with the SNES, but not for the reasons you'd think. The reason is simplicity, no moving parts, the medium is more durable, the controllers don't really have anything to break.
SNES is a tank
You had a teacher named Capriola? I lived on a street of the same name.
This is a tough debate and these guys are definitely in the conversation. I would also love to add the GameCube, Xbox 360, Nintendo Switch, and PlayStation 4. When I talk to my kids and their friends, nieces and nephews and general young people they always bring up these consoles as their favorites. My personal favorites are the N64 and PlayStation 1. I'd probably love the PS2 more if I had time to play it in it's heyday but I was a busy college student during the PS2/GameCube/Xbox era.
Lol his facial expression when hes holding the game with the kitchen knife. 😂
I like your content, you really know how to make your channel stand out from the crowd. Awesome humor combined with great knowledge about games works so well, i get that Dumb and Dumber vibe watching your videos lol
Largest libraries with a lot of the most recently, culturally relevant IPs still played today in some way shape or form. They both aged well so idk which I’d pick. It’s the only two retro consoles I permanently have hooked up to a tv.
My first video games were in the pre-crash era.
My most fondest memories of gaming as a kid was Colecovision, and my fondest as an adult was probably the Saturn. One was great at pre-crash arcade games. and the other was a mix of 2d and 3d 90s arcade games.
The NES seemed alien to me. I was given a dpad, and I had nightmares of it being another Intellivision controller. Thankfully, I can lay it on the floor and use 2 handed typing to control the dpad.
I could game for fun, but I felt like an athlete who went from dominating to not making the team once Nintendo had a cursade against right handed controls. Suddenly Nintendo became the reverse polo club. When Beeshu made ambidetrous joysticks, one ruling during the 90s FTC regulations on system gatekeepers were tightened to not allow a refusal of a licenses based on handedness, so Beeshu got their license for the Superstick and a couple other models.
The Saturn was the first system where I didn't rely on a birthday present to get at full price. I also had an under the table deal of supplying a rental store Saturn games and made enough in 50% commission (my games, his store) where I averaged a new Saturn game a month in profits. And since he was the only indie rental store with Saturn in a 20 mile radius, almost no conpetition.
For the first question: I grew up in the N64 era and I do love the smaller library of the SNES. I'd imagine this is nostalgia speaking, of course, but the first party games for SNES is just too much for the PS2 in my book. And the superior controller obviously 😅
3:50 "Not that we understood what bits were for back then...", no I asked my dad why Zelda only let me have 255 rupies, and I was actually disappointed by the 3 digit counter in Link to the Past because I expected to be able to have 65,535 rupies.
Thank you for a fun comparison with your always excellent perspective. My bias leans more SNES, but that’s easily a byproduct of growing up in that era. I don’t know that I could suggest a better console comparison, really, as the only other consoles that feel quite as legendary might be the NES and Genesis, and I’m not sure how well a comparison between those two might hold up. Great work as always!
NES and Genesis is a really interesting one. Typically people compare the Genesis to the Super Nintendo, and so you don't see that comparison very much.
@@RetroBirdGaming if anybody could pull it off, it’s you, my friend!
The PS2 went full on Sephiroth on the Dreamcast at 8:55 lol
Good comparison :)
I was a kid during the 16-bit era and a teen/adult during the PS2. I would recall the Super NES the greatest console of all-time, the 4th video game console, and the best-selling console of its era. I grew up in the NES era, and I do like a great library of the Super NES.
Maybe the next comparison can be Genesis vs Saturn or Saturn vs Dreamcast. Maybe even N64 vs Saturn. Love these comparison videos!
I actually already did a Sega console comparison if you're interested: th-cam.com/video/R4zLU__RNd4/w-d-xo.html
@@RetroBirdGaming thank you for letting me know. I'll have to check it out
For me, PS2 Slim was the greatest console ever made.
Out of the consoles I have, NES, SNES, and PS2 are currently what I have hooked up. RGB modded NES with EverDrive N8, 1CHIP SNES with EverDrive x6, and PS2 with Free McBoot and 2TB internal HD. Pretty happy with this setup! Oh, and it is all being fed into a Sony BVM-1315 through RGB signal.
I can definitely see that setup being all you need.👍
That is a pretty boss setup.
A BVM? Are you rich lol
@@dbzfanatic278 haha no.. I was able to snag mine for a decent amount less than what they normally sell for on eBay. I went to a Sears corporate building that was closing down and selling their old equipment. They used them to film their commercials back in the day.
The SNES was in a league of their own but when the PlayStation came along it had a much wider appeal with RPGs, fighting, racing and it was arcade quality out of the box!
I would personally like to see a comparison between the original Nintendo Gameboy and the Sega Game Gear. I think there are definitely pros and cons to each, and it would make for an interesting comparison video 🙂
The SNES has the best pick-up-and-play library.
Freaking loved this video my guy!
As much as I love the SNES I’m going to have to go with the PS2 personally.
It all boils down to me, asking myself the question which one would I choose if I was stuck with having only one for the rest of my life?
Hi Retro Bird do you know about Bravely Default and Bravely Second for the 3DS? Just wanted to let you know.
I sure do!
@@RetroBirdGaming I had an Atari 800 were i was a kid but i still love my SNES over my PS2.
I like both consoles for sure but pining SNES vs PS2 game libraries I’d have to go SNES mostly because it has aged far better. But the PS2 heaving a DVD player and backwards compatibility w/PS1 was pretty awesome back in the day!
Console comparison I’d like to see, would be Sega Game Gear vs PSP.
I good "best console of all time“ pairing in my opinion is Wii vs NES.
Both caused a massive surge in their respective times...with both bringing back major interest to the gaming industry. The NES bringing people back older gamers from the gaming crash and bringing newbies in who wanted to experience 8-bit gaming. And the Wii bringing back older gamers with the virtual console and the newbies in with its family-oriented nature.
And I personally see the PS2 as the better console in my opinion. Seeing as I grew up in the Wii generation, it's the closest in terms of quality.
My basement is painted in super nintendo colors. Love the purple highlights lol
This debate is moot simply because everyone knows the best system of all time was hands down the Fairchild Channel F. Who could forget classic games like Videocart 2- Desert Fox/Shooting Gallery? But still its a nice little video all the same.
6:50 They make competitions of that game in Perú and I believe other countries as well.
2:59 🤣🤣😭 it’s so true!
i'm personally of the opinion that it was the PS1. this is considering two of my top 3 games of all time are Mario World and Link to the Past. I think PS1 games where more unique, varied, revolutionary and there were more better ones than on any other console i can think of... save perhaps the Switch. The PS1 saw the best of the early-mid 90s 16bit era improved with 32bit horsepower while still using pixel art (which i love) while also bringing to the table a huge variety of 3D games over the course of time when 3D games went from experimental infancy to the status quo. this very unique dichotomy of imho 3 completely separate eras of gaming make the PS1 library the most interesting, to me.
You have games like SotN, Suikoden II, Gunners Heaven, Panzer Bandit, Megaman X3-X6 & 8, In The Hunt, Metal Slug, all the Capcom fighting games, Valkyrie Profile, Little Ralph, and basically ever 2D RPG etc - which are basically SNES/Genesis era games given the full birth of benefits that came with the 'next gen'. Then you have early 3D games which were experimental as devs were trying to figure out how to use 3D to craft games - Jumping Flash, D, Descent, Crash Bandicoot, Ridge Racer etc - these games while may feel janky today, they offer a really unique experience and represent gameplay which is largely missing today and was very much a product of its time. And finally there are the games that came in the late 90s/2000, when 3D was the de facto format for games - THPS2, Metal Gear Solid, Medieval, Soul Reaver, Grant Turismo 2 (still the best GT, come at me) - games which have more in common with what you see made today than in the early-mid 90s, and they're still *fantastic.* Of course the cherry on top is that the PS1 library has *TONS* of great games, more so than SNES or PS2, and more "bangers", in more genres, visual styles and gameplay mechanics.
Bonus Points: all the 2D SNES native genres which saw successful 2.5D or 3D iterations: Final Fantasy Tactics, Front Mission 3, Klonoa, Tomba, Harvest Moon, Raycrisis/Raystorm/Thunder Force V, Skullmonkeys. Bonus Points 2: all the goofy, innovative/experimental and just plain weird as shit the PSX got that you rarely see elsewhere: Rising Zan, LSD, Incredible Crisis, Intelligent Qube, Dreams, Baldies, Board Game Top Shop, Bushido Blade, 1 on 1, Geppy-X, Spider the Video Game, Tall Infinity, Parappa, RC de Go, Power Shovel.... and of course... the last of the FMV games. It also felt like the last time we had an established home console presence of puzzle games. Yeah my knowledge of the PSX library cuts *deep.*
The PS2 sanitized, repackaged and streamlines the 3D gameplay that was born on the PS1 and lost something along the way. That doesn't mean that it didn't have incredible games, just that they were build on the established franchises and gameplay born on the PS1. The PS1 simply offers more... of everything, than any other console until you get to modern times with digitally available indies and old game ports. Of course, the PS2 plays PS1 games and has a DVD player so it's just a better buy as a console itself - that in itself elevates the PS2 to the top, but i feel like that's just cheating. Just my 2 cents.
PS2 is in that realm where most of it's 3D games just haven't quite aged well enough to still go back and play while everything on the Super Nintendo is as playable today as it was back then. Also I was in my teens for the SNES while I was psushing mid 20s when the PS2 came out so the nostalgia just isn't going to be as strong for me but make no mistake. The PS2 was a juggernaut and more successful since that could be seen as the first generation where video games just aren't for kids only anymore. That's how I see it anyways.
I’ll just take both. Great vid
Hey, there's a solid answer!
SNES gets my vote by a thin margin. The PS2 was a blast with an amazing library of long lost gems. Gran Truismo 3 A-Spec, Street Fighter 15th Anniversary Edition, Virtua Fighter 4: Evolutuon, Dark Cloud…. All so great along with so many others. Still, it can’t beat Chrono Trigger, Secret of Mana, Legend of Zelda: a Link to the Past, Duper Castlevania IV, Super Metroid, The Donkey Kong Country series, Super Mario World, Super Metroid… classics all.
While neither would be the best consoles of all time, I would love to see a comparison between the Neo Geo ACS and the Sega Dreamcast. Both were ground breaking systems in their own respective generations and both were at home arcade style game havens. Perhaps this could be a future video idea.
Thanks a million for your great trip down memory lane. ❤
Nobody is arguing for Genesis being the best console.
When I first saw Super Mario World at the Toys R Us kiosk, I was blown away. Going from 8-bit to 16-bit was such a huge leap. But the library of games still were all pixel art, so a lot of titles look the same. And outside of Nintendo first party titles, there wasn't a ton of quality. PS2 however is when the gaming industry was fully matured and had a lot more money to throw around. And if anyone remembers when you first saw and played games like Grand Theft Auto 3, it felt absolutely unlike anything you've seen before. Jak and Daxter had a seamless world to explore which we take for granted today, but at the time, not having a load screen every couple seconds was an amazing feat. MGS 2 & 3 were putting blockbuster action movies to shame. God of War was making developers across the world scratch their heads wondering how they made it. And Shadow of the Colossus (at the time) felt like a next gen title. The PS2 was just filled with gaming firsts, and so much of how we play games today was built way back on the PS2. That's why so many gamers who were alive at that time felt disappointed with both the PS3 and PS4 because that "first time, never seen it before" newness just wasn't there. It was all a shinier coat on the same ride. And you could argue the same for the SNES, a shinier coat on the same ride.
Ps2 was a time when developers could take a gamble on their projects. With ps3 and onward the cost of development meant companies couldnt take the risk. And as video games went mainstream that meant trying to cater to the largest audience so you get less of the quirky games. Indie games are usually really low budget and most were probably only released online.
I remember years ago Sony wanted to merge with Nintendo back in early 90s,
Unless you only ever had one console, it''s impossible to pick one. For me the greatest console was the Mega Drive, but then it was the PS1, and then it was the PS2, and so on. I guess it's more about the games you play, each console has THAT game(s) you.will always cherish.
Got to go PS2. It just has more games that I personally love on it.
PS2 was basically the cheapest DVD player out there that also played video games. Thats what made it the most relevant.
Been gaming since 1987 and the snes and ps2 are easily my favorite. So many gems on both systems. I collect for both of them regularly. About to go pick up mega man x for the first time ever(never owned it for some reason)
I feel like the PS2 has so much games that appeal to me. The super Nintendo has good games like alttp, super metroid, and the final fantasy games (one of them being my favourite which is 5). But the ps2 has such a big library of games that are revolutionary like re4, shadow of the Colossus, the persona games and a lot more.