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For lovely starters… I need a The Woman King (On Netflix) & Fast X (On Peacock) reactions from you gents.. And Is this a reupload or am I having some weird deja vu moment or etc and just imagined I watched this video already lmao
Jeeze what an insult to Nicholas Cage, if I were him I'd be fucking pissed. Especially because had Nicholas Cage been in it I would have gone despite my dislike for Ezra Miller.
WB handling of DC live action so horribly bad. Even when they have a good product, they just deliberately find ways to f*ck it up. They've changed so many things in this movie. a couple who are my good friends saw the first early screening for this movie in early 2022 and they loved it and when the final movie came out and they saw it, they hated it because some very key elements in this movie was changed which basically changes the whole narrative and ending of the movie. WB executives for whatever reason just loves to make creative changes in their DC movies when it's been repeatedly resulted into absolute disasters. Started with Batman V Superman, then infamous Whedon JL, and they still haven't learned. All Batman cameos from the upcoming Aquaman 2 movie has been removed confirmed by the director of the movie himself and they had literally 2 batman cameos in the movie . Batlfeck and Keaton. I thought James Gunn might act differently but dude seems to be acting the same way like his predecessors. I just hope he can keep things steady in the new universe they're making
The things that work in this movie, really work for me. But the things that don’t, really don’t. The 2 big highlights for me are Keaton and Sasha Calle’s Supergirl.
agreed. the good things in this movie are good. but the bad things are really bad. this movie completely lost my interest with the whole falling baby scene at the beginning..
If Batman is the best part of your Flash movie, there's a problem. Also, the animators have come out and said that they were pressured for time and that's why the cgi is a little off. They did their job, it was the executives and studios that wanted this movie out as soon as possible. Which made the animators rush out an unpolished project.
And your director, their boss say it was artistic making their work awful on purpose. In which they make it seem they were hired cause the director is the only one who likes it or has sympathy if his lie is about artistic style not time
@@TheZackkary1 and? 2 years were wasted trying to find the right person to write the script and the director, after multiple rejections. 1 year to film in the middle of a pandemic. Post-Production that was hell, scandals with the main actor. Post-production was put on hold after yet another studio merge. And multiple months for a decision to cancel the movie altogether. Yes, I believe they were rushed by the investors to put the movie out once and for all for profit. Because, that’s the only thing they care about.
I liked the emotional scenes they did those very well & honestly it took me till this movie to realize how similar Flash & Batman are all their conversation scenes even Batfleck made me want to see more of em together like they both are detectives and lost their parents in the same day . The mom stuff got me , the cgi was the weakest part but I liked the movie
I agree, although the CGI was wonky and some weird parts with younger Barry. Some of the older Barry scenes I really liked and made me really emotional.
@@MrDarkSidius to be honest that feels like 90% of superhero movies these days, they all seem to ruin actual emotion with crap jokes a 10 year old wouldnt find funny
The relationship between Batman and flash has always been one of my favorite things about the Animated shows. You can tell Batman respects the flash even more than Superman and sees more of himself in him more than anyone else on the team
@@MrDarkSidius I didn't really feel that in this movie, I thought all the emotional scenes were well done. What you describe is how I felt about some MCU movies, especially Thor Ragnarok. Thor lost so much in that movie, his Dad, his home, his eye, yet that movie felt like there was no emotional weight & he hardly showed any emotion or grievance towards that. Compared to like No Way Home, you can feel the emotional weight & the pain Peter went through, losing Aunt May & having his friends forget who he is.
Well and people act like there's just a hub of animators everyone goes to to hire and the more money, the better animation. They can simply have had worse animators.
I like it, it sets the whole tone of this thing being a cartoon in live action, the shit in one piece looks exactly the same and no one complains about that….
@@cl4-tpgaming nahh... it's just bad looking CGI and there's much better attempts at doing what you're describing. BTW, "One Piece" is miles better in production values like lighting and directing compared to "The Flash" and people don't complain about the random wonky CGI they use sparingly because "One Piece" is a good series with engaging characters. Oh.... and it's a TV show....
If the cameos had actually _looked_ cool I might have been more forgiving of them being empty fanservice. As it was, they couldn't even clear that low bar.
The part that REALLY gets me is when barrys Mom takes off his glasses. Look at the moms face. She doesn't know why and especially how, but she immediately recognizes her child and decides to hide it. This movie may have a shit load of problems, but that scene was done masterfully and saved the movie for. It wasn't any big moment or fan service, But just a simple scene between a son and a mother.
Other than the straight-bad CG, I really enjoyed like 75% of The Flash. It's the 25% remaining where it really falls apart - most of which is the ending. It was re-edited and re-written SO many times. Supergirl, Wonder Woman, and Superman were all supposed to appear at the court scene, for example. Consequently, Supergirl has no ending. The biggest irritation for me is... all The Flash really did for me is prove that Ben Affleck is the best Batman, in the movie that writes him out. Great. Oh, and Nicholas Cage DID film for this movie... and they cut him out and did it all in bad CG. Madness.
I quite like Supergirl hope that actress sticks around. I feel like Kara is usually plucky and had an adventurous spirit. But she WAS a kryptonian, she’s a refugee from a planet destroyed by a authoritarian cue. I like that she is more serious with a chip on her shoulder
Also, a Supergirl who FAILS to do her singular job and protect Kal-El? That's interesting. Like, yeah, technically she fails in most iterations because she arrives like 20-30 years after, but Kal-El is fine. But this shows Kal-El dying while in transit, and I want to see the fallout on Supergirl's psyche and morality when she is, for all intents and purposes, the LAST Kryptonian and the LAST of the House of El. I'd also like seeing them explore her being an actual Kryptonian, raised in the culture, as opposed to a lot of her iterations where she's just Superman's "little" cousin who largely acts normal to human standards. Weirdly enough, the CW show is probably one of the Supergirl iterations that kind of delves into that- but not terribly deeply.
@@swampfireian41yeah it’s cool how solem she is accepting a lot of failure. They don’t do the typical “ fish out of water” trope with her eating icecream and being like, “wow this is the best thing I’ve ever had this planet is amazing!”
So this is something that every VFX artist and director has to deal with: what is accurate, vs what looks good. The friction-less running is physically accurate, but doesn't look good. Most realistic things do not look good. There isn't no friction, but he is just going too fast for the friction to affect him. That's why the water still moves around.
@@aydinbiber7616 So CorridorDigital broke it down pretty well. But as for physics goes, the slower something slides against a surface, there is more resistance so the faster it goes, the less resistance there is. But the effects of them sliding together (heating up, scratching or damaging it) still apply. Idk if I am explaining it correctly, I cannot words well lol
no, this is not accurate. to accurately show him not experiencing friction, all you need to do is not have him slow down. that's not the issue. the issue is that while he may not be experiencing the effects of friction, the rest of the world is. there should be massive trails left on the ground with every footstep. gouges, scorch marks, not to mention the virtual crater he would create every time he comes to a stop. instead they only show water moving away from him, which should honestly be more like vapor. not even close to what i would call accurate.
@@chriswright8114 This is something that has been ignored in the comics forever, the flash would damage everything around him. I am more speficially talking about the way he himself moves relative to the surface he is running on. With that speed, one step would have a lot of force and just push him much farther. The way he moves through the air across the ground IS correct but only theoreitcally because we haven't seen anything besides light move that fast. The affects of him running like that are not correct. But I think the comics used "the speed force" as a way to explain stuff like that at some point idk
1:31:25 I personally disagree with this take on the movie and and just tv and cinema in general. Why can’t people just watch something to enjoy it rather than feeling like there forcing themselves to watch it for a thing that’s coming in the future. E.g. the Marvel TV shows before Disney. Those shows (Daredevil, Agents of shield, Punisher etc…) are all regarded as better than the Disney stuff and are barely connected to a huge climax of the marvel stuff (agents of shield kinda the exception but still, that show got ignored and is still getting ignored to this day even tho people still say it is a great show). So why can’t things just be watched to be enjoyed these days?
This is such a weird movie and the fight and deaths were kinda dumb. You're telling me, Superman could take down and kill Zod on his own, but two Flash's, Batman and Supergirl can't?
Personally, my fav part of this whole movie was Supergirl, her pure rage during the fight scenes were so satisfying to watch, and the actor who played her did a great job, IMO... Also Batman beating shit up was fun to watch. Got to admit, I never cared for screaming teenage Barry the whole movie... It wasn't a great movie, but was, alright.
I honestly really like the movie. It has a lot of issues for sure, but I was entertained quite a bit. I've seen it a few times now, and I enjoy it each time. Just a fun movie in my opinion.
@cl4-tpgamingchannel913 it has problems but people are too hard. Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't easily rewatch it but I definitely could unlike actual trash movies.
People talk about it like it’s the worst superhero movie ever made but that is absolutely not true. Judging it purely as a movie and ignoring everything else, it’s really not that bad. It’s just that people call it bad because they’re looking at it through the lens of Ezra Miller and the dying DC universe and honestly I don’t blame them.
I loved Keaton Batman more in The Flash than I did in his original movies. And it was not because he actually moved like Batman in this, but because he acted so much like Bruce Wayne in this. Smart, methodical but someone who would rather sacrifice himself than let a friend get hurt. Also, Ezra acted the hell out of every scene with Barry and Barry. This is exactly how someone of his intellect and in his position in JLA would interact with his younger self.
If they had just gotten someone other than Ezra Miller to play Flash, (seriously, why?) This would've been a lot more enjoyable. At least we got to see Michael Keaton again. Seems like he had fun with this.
Why? It was pretty good if not great performance? And as far as recasting goes I was happy that Amazon didn't recast Homelander, despite actor actions and personal issues. Starr gave amazing performance. Same goes here.
@@somestuff7876 Starr and Ezra are not even in the same cateogry its hilarious you even compare them. Starr had one incident, which arguably shouldnt excuse it. But Ezra has had multiple incidents, of multiple crimes, assault, robbery, break ins, the list is endless. There has to be a certain point where one has to choose to pay to watch this psycho or not and I think Ezra is way past that point.
Ive been watching Blind Wave for 8 years now, and I can just tell from the very beginning that this movie wasn't going to get a fair shot and they're going to be overly critical on it, because it is what was expected on this reaction and of all the negativity that surrounds the movie. Which is a shame because I think the movie is very good and really enjoyable.
Yea this reaction felt off, felt it from the beginning, came in very negative. Felt exactly the same way, they didn’t give it a fair shot. Movie was a 7/10 in my opinion, I really enjoyed it.
I feel the same way as you guys, I liked some things and disliked others. I totally agree with Eric about the sound effect for the World Engine. I was waiting for it and was left disappointed. It's like if The Mandalorian hadn't used the sound effect for the Seismic Charge when Boba Fett used it in Season 2. I also enjoyed Supergirl and hope they keep that actress for the new DCEU.
I understand people's issue with the CGI in this movie, but other than that I really enjoyed it and got overall felt happy by the end of the movie. Definitely deserves some criticism, but I feel like a lot of people hate on this movie just to hop on the bandwagon.
This film makes me sad. They could have done Flashpoint properly. Instead we got this bollocks. The pieces were all there thanks to some stellar casting. Jeffery Dean Morgan as Thomas Wayne. Should have been him instead of Keaton. Use Captain America one effects to make Henry Cavil into the weedy Superman from the comics and animated film. Get Ray Fisher back as Cyborg. And bring in Zachary Levi's Shazam. Thats the golden team there. Forget Supergirl, Keaton Batman and other annoying Flash. Also, forget Zod. The threat should have been Wonder Woman vs Aquaman. They were both in the fucking film. Just expand their roles a bit. Bring Amber Heard back to be decapitated. I'm sure a lot of fans would have loved to see that. It was all there. It could have been a reality. Now, it was used as a whimper to end the DCEU and has wasted the potential of seeing a proper live action Flashpoint film because I doubt WB would want to take another stab at it. It was a wast eof potential, and a waste of my time. Because I hated this film. For all the terrible CGI, for the butchering of a great story and for the terrible, terrible, terrible attempts at humour. It was not funny. CGI babies. Not funny. Annoying second Barry. Not funny. Awkward sex quote. Not funny. The naked scene, the tooth scene, the annoying flat mates, the running about with no powers scene. NOT FUNNY.
Pity u didnt like it as much as me, i just got over Cgi...i thought comedy was on point and emotional drama with Ezra was incredible....Keaton was best he has ever been, Supergirl was so good in role and felt like Cavills cousin...the story was interesting and stunts were ambitious.....bad cgi and Kyrptonians were shoehorned in...
I think I liked it way more then most people It's still not a great movie but it's not as bad as people are saying. And yep Supergirl was very well cast.
Ah yes, this film. As a huge Flash fan, he’s literally my favourite superhero, I was really excited for this movie and when I came out of the cinema I ended up thinking it was pretty good. Like an 8/10. But the more it lingered with me and the more I thought about it, the more I began to dislike it. I don’t care about the controversies with Ezra, I’m very good at separating art from artist, I can look past bad cgi, all I cared about was the story. And at the end of the day, after thinking about it more and more, I hate this movie. Since I saw it I think I’d give it a 3/10 or 4/10 and I think it’ll only get lower as time goes on. There are some good things in it, mostly the scene when Barry is with his mother and has to put the can back, but all things considered I just hate it. Saying that makes me so sad, but it’s true.
All they really needed to do was follow and take notes from Flash point the animated movie, like instead of having bad nostalgia bait have old Batman be Thomas Wayne , Reverse flash being the actual villain throughout the movie, and actual good character banter,etc. But knowing how this movie went through development hell because no one liked the script or wanted take a huge task makes sense why this movie is a mess the more you think about it.
I think a lot of factors had to go into play for The Flash to flop as badly as it did. First we have the Ezra Miller of it all but then there was the overuse of poor CGI (along with the reports of just how abused VFX workers are helps that make sense), the creepy use of AI to bring dead actors back and to replace living actors, an overall fatigue with lackluster superhero films (personally don't think people are tired of superheroes YET, but if these mid films keep going then that might change), the unearned fan-service that feels condescending, plus the standards for DC films are sooooooooo low the interest is just as low, AND that low interest isn't helped by the knowledge the DC movies coming out right now don't have a baring on the future of the DC cinematic universe so there is no urgency to see them. There are most likely other issues I'm not remembering but these feel like the big ones in my opinion. It was a perfect storm that just made this an inevitable failure. Hopefully James Gunn can fix this otherwise my vote will be for DC to focus on their animated shows. Harley Quinn and My Adventures with Superman are legitimately the best things to come out of DC in years and they deserve the praise for reminding people why these characters are actually great.
Not only does it suffer from this incarnation of the DCEU now being a dead-end, the film _itself_ made that choice several times. Introduce a new live action Supergirl (one of the characters with the most future potential for me) ? Then kill her. Re-introduce a "new" live-action Batman ? Then kill him. Then at the end, double down with a Clooney stunt cameo that basically suggests either the entire film will be taken back _even in its own universe_ (i.e. Barry will have to fix his "fix") OR it's not only a meta dead-end, it's an in-universe dead-end too (because this isn't even the - now defunct - _current_ DCEU anymore). The film has "You _really_ shouldn't care about this" in its fundamental DNA. And I didn't so, y'know, I guess mission accomplished.
Honestly only things I liked about this were Sasha Calle as Supergirl, a lot of Michael Keaton’s performance (even if I think the retired/jaded hero mentor trope is really played out at this point), and as much as I don’t like that montage of worlds colliding I did like finally seeing Nic Cage Superman fighting a giant spider. Other than that the film’s a mess that I equate to ripping off the band aid to make way for Gunn’s DC films which hopefully (?) have less drama and inconsistencies in terms of quality
The ending scene apparently changed like 3 or 4 times because WB kept changing direction. Originally it would have been Affleck, but he wanted out after the Justice League debacle. They filmed a version with Keaton and Calle, then another with Cavill. Then the reboot was announced and they brought in Clooney because the ending didn't matter anymore. It's interesting though that this basically canonized the Burton films and Schumacher films are different universes.
Aside from the CGI microwave baby, I don't think the rest was enough to break my suspension of disbelief overall I think the approach on the CGI in the running scenes was similar to what was done for the VR world in "Ready Player One" The CGI characters in the cronoball scenes weren't meant to be real. They were meant to be echoes of the real ones. Like statues at a museum Maybe it would've looked better if they had been done in monochrome Like the liquid metal holograms in MAN OF STEEL
The post credit was pretty much just making an in universe explanation for the actor changes coming, Jason still being Aquaman in all of them, etc. But Batman being different.
The entire "crisis" scene was so atrociously done that it ruined whatever emotion it was trying to convey in that sequence. For being the first (and last) DCEU Flash movie it just didn't sit well with me for Flashpoint to be the story it adapted. Keaton was great still and every sequence involving him was cool. I feel like Kara was super sidelined and wasn't given time to actually shine as the character, and I hope she gets a second chance as Supergirl someday. It's astounding how the CW version of Crisis utilized the "cameos" better than this million-dollar film Overall I feel like this film is a compilation on what NOT to do for a CBM let alone a multiverse-themed one
Mine too, her costume design was like a combination of CW arrowverse and the Man of Steel, it's like DC rolled it, patted it, and put in the oven and it came out perfectly.
So they had a timestamped video showing the dad at the store when the mom was stabbed, wearing the clothes he was arrested in. Plus he had a hat on with a recognizable logo on it. He wouldn't need to look up for there to be SERIOUS reasonable doubt.
Probably my fave DCEU film.❤🔥 Didn't even mind the funny cgi babies lol. Best movie Flash suit . It had everything I wanted in a DC film with some fun, dark and sad moments. I wish they all had their own film before any of the Justice League films which I still dug both versions.
Completely disagree. Really enjoyed this movie (I think you missed the point of it, such as the other realities when you said that they weren’t needed) whereas I thought “Black Adam” was largely a chore to sit through.
The movie was great it only flopped because of drama outside of the movie, I think the movie being changed to cut out superman and removing other cameos and ultimately the Michael Keaton supergirl ending hurt the movie too
You guys are obviously spoiled by the "flop" news and seems un-enthusiastic even at the good scenes. "yeah that look great, yeah that was cool ._." Shazam had worse CGI but people didnt give a shit about CGI in that movie. What really made this flop was the woke and cancel culture due to Ezra miller.
What are you talking about? You can’t just say “woke and cancel culture” like there wasn’t real crimes Ezra miller committed Everyone hates this movie you could find the most right leaning person and they will hate this movie These days anyone can say woke as if it means anything
I didn't like the movie, but I thought it was great when the alternate Flash tried all the combinations to open Kara's cell as it foreshadowed his approach to try and win the climatic battle and turn him into Dark Flash.
i didn't think the effects in the chrono bowl were bad, i know they said it was because they were crunched on time, but it having different effects made it stand out, it was a visual representation of specific point in time, almost like a GIF, i didn't feel that it needed to be picture perfect in order to feel right
Has this channel stopped watching most major films in theaters now? I'm not referring to this film in particular, but all blockbusters films that have come out in the year. How many of them do they actually have reviews for opening weekend or within the first week of release?
hate the flash and batfleck suit in this movie, hate the way the flash runs in slow mo, the cgi was often pretty bad.. but I gotta say, keaton's and kara's suit are great, the fight choreographies are great, the scenario was good.. I feel like this movie got more hate than it deserves. for me, it's a good 7 - 7.5/10
Ezra Miller’s personal issues aren’t the problem with his portrayal of Barry. The role just doesn’t suit him. You guys need to get over your inability to seperate art from artist.
I actually kinda liked this, because I saw it at home after already hearing all the sruff about it, so I didn't have expectations and just went in ignoring everything and just having fun with it as is. I like more lighthearted and goofy things as opposed to overly serious stuff anyway, so CGI aside, I actually quite liked it, especially all the time travel ajd multiverse stuff! Trippy stuff like that is always cool to me anyway lol.
Same. I’m so glad I’m able to live making up my own mind and enjoying the fun/goofy side of things rather than let the miserable mindset of other people influence my experiences.
I think the flash 'skating' is basically showing him in slow motion, because if you think about it it'll be weird if hes moving his arms and legs like a million times a second but would be looking around at regular speed.
I agree! I think maybe if they did a trick where it's implied his arms and legs ARE moving that fast, but just like in life when things move in repeated motions at incredible speed it can kind of blur into a slow-motion effect? Like when a helicopter's blades start up and eventually your brain perceives them start spinning backward because of how fast they move. Again though, if's and's and but's that could've and should've and would've, y'know?
It doesnt look believable that's the problem stuff like Smallville or the flash TV show looks more believable and stuff like Dash in incredibles or Quicksilver in the X-Men movies looks infinitely better
Idk if this is controversial or not but I don't think this movie is that great. I know they said the CG wasn't good on purpose... But it was too much. That, and it was hugely reliant on well versed fan service for the sake of fan service. The calorie thing doesn't really come back in any decent way after the initial hospital scene. It feels like it gets more mid every time I see it because all the extra stuff isn't a surprise and you question as to why and who cares. Plus... If those are different multiverses... Then Flash isn't verse jumping... So the changes he shouldn't effect, like Superman's... Anything just don't make sense. And it's explained away by a linear line changing past and future... Which is nonsensical. The running is goofy... And Flashpoint feels like a BvS level movie where it should've came way later in a series. At the end of the day, it's not terrible. But I'd rather just watch the first 2-3 seasons of the show, instead.
The movie was actually fun and good entertainment. It clearly lacks in a lot of areas (and I feel the burden of the poor VFX artists that had to leave the move CGI half finished to answer to the pressure of the studio to release the movie) but It was definitely fun to watch, the humour usually hits quite well, that worked for me. I took the CGI like I would for a smaller budget movie or for TV (when you've watched years of CW's the Flash, you're ready to watch this level of CGI, even if the difference in cost is huge). Bottom line, not a great movie, but not a total miss in my books, totally on par with some other DC/Marvel movies we got.
Definitely better than some of the recent Marvel movies for me, I guess thanks to being ignorance about Erza, the CGI and other Flash shows 😅 For a newcomer to the Flash, still want to give this one a 7 or 8
U guys clearly never seen actual flash suit from the comics this is almost identical. Think u guys where talking shit only on rhe stuff u allready saw about it online thats what it sounded like😂
I am in the minority here. And i know on a technical standpoint this isnt the best movie. But i fully enjoyed this movie and loved it. In my top favorite movies of the year for how i enjoyed it. And again. Minority here. I like the the running style. It reminds me of Shadow the hedgehog where he had scates. He still touches the ground but he moves so fast he looks like he glides across the floow. So things are still effected by his footsteps
Honestly, the very first time I watched this, I'm surprised Supergirl and Batman were killed against Zod, Faora and Nam-Ek. It was more realistic, which I appreciate. I figured them going to all that trouble to rescure Supergirl that she'd be OP and save the day Captain Marvel style. Happy to be wrong about that. -- That being said, I'm surprised the younger Flash was able to kill Faora the way he did with the slash and stab. She's Zod's second in command, no qualms about killing, brutal and effective...younger Flash, he's fast, but otherwise her opposite.-- Also, I liked how they had the Kryptonians battle the U.S. military at Edwards AFB. -- Despite its shortcomings, the movie had a few unexpected highlights. I hadn't seen any of the trailers and wasn't expecting Michael Shannon to reprise his role. Zod being victorious no matter how many times they tried to redo it, is pretty much how it would go. Makes me wonder why Zod didn't stab Kal-El.
34:43 Justice League Barry set up Noob Barry to fail. He knew Noob Barry had to regulate energy to not overheat/overcharge and still let him use the overheating suit. If they switched it would be more efficient in term of in-universe logic. The more experienced Barry is the one juggling regulating energy and Noob Barry has the "safer" suit. AND it would make sense in the climax how Noob Barry kept rewinding and replaying events. Noob Barry can keep going over and over and JL Barry can't. But yeah in terms of logistics of the movie, they probably did it to make the improvised suit the one that gets corrupted and mangled.
say what you will about the cw DC Arrowverse. But the cw crisis on infinite earths had a 1000% more heart and respect for its characters put into it than this excuse of a movie
Good movies bomb all the time. Blue Beetle just bombed even harder than this too unfortunately and I thought that one was GREAT! I really enjoyed this movie for the most part. Not one of my favorites at all and nothing spectacular but a solid 3.5/5 stars. There are things I don’t like (mostly a lot of the visuals) but it hits a lot of the emotional beats really well and has an emotional center to it that I think a lot of comic book movies lack these days, Ezra’s performance is great, especially with the mom stuff, and it was great seeing Michael Keaton again! Overall, more positives than negatives, it was fun and emotional for me but if people don’t like it that’s okay too!
@@raiden8063 It’s subjective, I think it’s good, which is why my comment says it. When have good movies bombed? Happens more often than you think, We’ve had a ton over the past few years. Just this year - Mission Impossible: Dead Reckoning, Blue Beetle, Dungeons and Dragons, Indiana Jones 5, Pixar’s Elemental, even the new TMNT: Mutant Mayhem didn’t do well and that movie is awesome. Some other box office bombs that I love - Blade Runner 2049 (and the original), The Iron Giant, The Nice Guys, Scott Pilgrim vs the World, The Suicide Squad, Doctor Sleep, The Shawshank Redemption, Fight Club. That’s just a handful, but there are many more. If you don’t like the movie that’s okay! Just opinions after all.
@@raiden8063 that is your subjective opinion though. if you think it is not a good movie(I agree with that) then that is your opinion. and if others think it is a good movie then that is their opinion and nothing is wrong with that
So, for some reason, DESPITE the film having an entire spaghetti analogy to this film's use of time travel and how it affects the world around it, people still don't understand it. So I'm going to try to explain it better. We have two different conepts in this movie. Universes, and timelines. Unlike the MCU, this film uses those concepts correctly. A universe is a physical space with a whole set of natural laws that dictate what can and can't happen within it. A timeline is a series of events within that universe. So a universe is what, and a timeline is what happens. So to speak. When Barry saved his mom, he changed the timeline within that universe. Replaced the old one with the new one. And that change reverberated throughout all of time, forward and backward. But it is also soon after this timeline change that we also see the introduction of a time loop. Future Barry 2 pushes Barry 1 into the new timeline, eventually leading to the events that makr him him. But then he accidentally kills himself. This happens because they're outside of time and thus not subject the nature of a causal loop. But when future Barry 2 kills present Barry 2, it effectively erases the events of the rest of the movie that we've seen up until this point, because the grandfather paradox still exists. Or a similar one, anyway. If Barry 2 never became an evil Barry 2, he could never have caused the events that led to his own creation. But don't think about it too hard. Just don't. Because the answer is that Barry 2 either never existed, always existed, or is simultaneously existand AND non-existent. And none of them make sense. At the end of the movie, Barry 1 changes the timeline again. Barry 2 no longer exists because he never had the opportunity to exist, and the timeline is mostly the same as it was before. But that change he made with the placement of the tomato soup also reverberated throughout time. This new timeline is not the same as the original one, but it, too, has replaced it. Universes are the giant Speed Force domes we see at the end, all crashing into one another. Each dome essentially peers into moments in time witin those respective universes, and when the domes collided, cracks between time and space emerged, allowing the horribly rendered CG monstrosities to peer into the DCEU Speed Force dome/universe. Okay. If I explained everything accurately, then our collective understanding is that neither Michael Keaton or George Clooney are playing the SAME versions of Batman as they did in theirbown respective movies. Those films exist in a separate universe, but the events of this film take place entirely within one universe with multiple timelines (or the same timeline, but altered). Michael Keaton veing Batman and being older than Ben Affleck Batman was one of the many changes to the timeline when Barry saved his mom. George Clooney being Batman was one of what we can only assume are equally numerous changes to the timeline when Barry saved his dad from life in prison. The clips we see of George Reeves and the classic style Jay Garrick (who I don't think ever existed in real life), Christopher Reeves and Helen Slater, Nic Cage Superman, and the 60's Batman series all exist within separate universes. The same universes those characters and stories originally appeared in. But Michael Keaton and George Clooney are not playing their versions of the character, but similar versions within a different universe and setting due to the changes in the timeline made by Barry. Edit: So basically, the SMALL amount of the multiverse we see in this film still lines up with what we've seen in the Arrowverse, particularly within Crisis on Infinite Earths. And it seems weird to me, that Marvel is the company that, despite their infinitely larger succes, fail to understand the differences between a universe and timeline. While DC, a far less consistent franchise and far more disjointed while also ALL being connected to everything else has consistently understood the concepts they were playing with.
For me i really enjoyed this movie.The emotional beats went hard, I think Ezra did a good job imo. Batman and Supergirl obviously stole the show aswell. As a DC fan this was a fun time. It has its flaws and a lot of them, theres no denying that. I just feel they are overexaggerated and a lot of people just joined the hatewagon. It's kind of the perfect representation of the DCEU for me, flawed but i had a lot of fun with it.
It’s crazy to me that The Flash season 1,2, and 3 had dope, believable, and awesome cgi and this MOVIE with a bigger budget has terrible cgi. Less is more I guess
Those cameos were the biggest load of shit i've ever seen. They got the wrong set of cameos and got them wrong. That's the best way I can describe it. This is a Flash film. So they should have used different versions of the Flash. Maybe even use them to actually effect the storyline by having them try to explain to Barry why he can't save his mom. And there are enough Flashes. Grant Gustin from CW Flash. John Wesley Shipp from 90s Flash. John Wesley Shipp as Jay Garrick instead of the imposter who I will get back to later. Kyle Gallner as Bart Allen from Smallville. All would have made more sense as cameos. But they wanted the well known ones like Adam West and Christopher Reeves. So they purposefully went for the wrong set of cameos. But how did they get that wrong too? Most kids in the cinemas don't know who George Reeve was. Most of their parents don't know either. Most of the audience don't know about Nic Cage either. So for many, it would be like if when Tom Hollands Spider-man met Andrew Garfield and Tobey Maguire, if Jonah Hill also shows up claiming to be another Peter Parker. Most people would be like WTF??? Jay Garrick was a bad choice too. At least that version of Jay Garrick, the Teddy Sears version, who was actually not Jay Garrick but the villain. Tell me you didn't watch the CW Flash show without telling me. Oh yes, you clearly just typed Jay Garrick into Google and took the first image you saw. So if you want to get Audiences excited by using the best of the best. Where was Christian Bale's Batman? I guarantee that a very significant portion of DC fans today, only became DC fans because of the Dark Knight. I know I did. I didn't give a crap about superheroes before I watched Dark Knight. Where was Bale? Where was Lynda Carter as Wonder Woman? She was an Icon to many young women for decades. Still is. Where was Tom Welling as Superman. I'm sure many of the super nerds who got semis watching Nic Cage in the suit on screen would have also loved to see Welling finally don the suit. Where was the CW? In the same sense that Helen Slater shared a scene with Christopher Reeves, could they not have included one scene showing Grant Gustins Flash, Mellissa Benoist's Supergirl and Tyler Hoechlin's Superman? And if we want to really push home the idea of the biggest, most important characters, maybe a bit of self promotion wouldn't have gone amiss. Show off the current Batman Robert Pattinson. It makes absolutely no sense that they did that scene the way they did.
I liked it more than I didn't, dialogue was biggest complaints in some parts, had a lot of great elements. Cgi is off sometimes, but I don't think it would have flopped without Ezra Miller being a fucking shithead. Better than blue beetle, at least. Which just kinda sucks all around. The extremely soft DC reboot ain't going too well...
1:07:49 Mark! 👎to Eric! BOO! 🤬 I disapprove of the depiction of smoking and other vices, but I otherwise love the 1984 "Supergirl" and Helen Slater, especially! 💕
I think Sasha Calle was fantastic as Supergirl and her suit looked amazing. Michael Keaton as batman again was great! And there are a couple of scenes i really enjoyed but other than that, this movie was garbage. It was so rushed which is odd since it was in production for like 8 years lol.
So here’s my biggest problem with this movie. If traveling back in time caused a “current timeline” Barry, why isn’t there one when he restocks the shelves?
I have 0 problems with Ezra. In fact, he is my favorite casting of the DCCU. All my issues with the movie are the visual quality of the fx shots. And wtf is "unearned fan service"? It's fan service. It's literally inserting a "sample" of someone else's work for no reason beyond the callback. How would it ever be anything but unearned?
There's a satisfying movie somewhere in here. I've found it a couple times but man this movie needed a solid plan. Went from being a flash movie, to a universe opening film, to an ensemble film, to a multiverse film, to a movie ending a cinematic universe. I just wanted a flash movie
Personally, I thought this movie was too silly, and I am NOT someone who thinks DC/superheroes need to be all grimdark. I like silly superhero movies, they're all we had in the 90s. This one didn't land with me, but it doesn't bother me if other people enjoyed it, that's great.
1:05:53 Mark! What?! I looked for such moments and I didn't notice! Or were you counting covered, not bare? 🤔 If covered, doesn't that happen anyway, especially during leg sweeping movements? 😮
😭 I remember a short inteview clip with michael shannon and they were like hey were gonna introduce multi-verse. And michaels like man idk wtf that is. And the look on his face envoked both laughter and sorrow for me. So either they didnt properly explain it. Or he was throughly confused by the premise/movie
For those who haven’t seen the show the first two seasons are some of the best TV I’ve seen. After that it kinda fell off but season 3-6(first half) are extremely watchable; the second half of 6 and 7-9 is some of the worst writing I’ve seen in a thing…it never gets say Inhumans bad but it a far cry from what it was
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Man i thought you were doing Flash Gordon.... Fark guys, i guess its the audience these days, but arent you personally sick of teenage marvel shite?
For lovely starters… I need a The Woman King (On Netflix) & Fast X (On Peacock) reactions from you gents..
And Is this a reupload or am I having some weird deja vu moment or etc and just imagined I watched this video already lmao
They almost did a flashpoint paradox live action...instead they gave us this shit.
HISHE Flash grabbin bunch of Xrytonite as weapon is more logic
Crono bowl thing looks like the movie polar express.
One of the more frustrating things abt this movie is that Nic Cage came out and said he filmed stuff on set and this wasn’t it.
I think it's time to demand the release of the Cage cut.
Jeeze what an insult to Nicholas Cage, if I were him I'd be fucking pissed. Especially because had Nicholas Cage been in it I would have gone despite my dislike for Ezra Miller.
WB handling of DC live action so horribly bad. Even when they have a good product, they just deliberately find ways to f*ck it up. They've changed so many things in this movie. a couple who are my good friends saw the first early screening for this movie in early 2022 and they loved it and when the final movie came out and they saw it, they hated it because some very key elements in this movie was changed which basically changes the whole narrative and ending of the movie. WB executives for whatever reason just loves to make creative changes in their DC movies when it's been repeatedly resulted into absolute disasters. Started with Batman V Superman, then infamous Whedon JL, and they still haven't learned. All Batman cameos from the upcoming Aquaman 2 movie has been removed confirmed by the director of the movie himself and they had literally 2 batman cameos in the movie . Batlfeck and Keaton. I thought James Gunn might act differently but dude seems to be acting the same way like his predecessors. I just hope he can keep things steady in the new universe they're making
When WW enters. Also cringy. The music and the dialogue. Woof.
It was great to see Cage as Superman after all this time tho!
The things that work in this movie, really work for me. But the things that don’t, really don’t. The 2 big highlights for me are Keaton and Sasha Calle’s Supergirl.
Sasha def needs to come back.
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agreed. the good things in this movie are good. but the bad things are really bad. this movie completely lost my interest with the whole falling baby scene at the beginning..
YEAH SASHA AS SUPERGIRL WAS THE BEST PART!
I really hope they keep sasha as supergirl
If Batman is the best part of your Flash movie, there's a problem.
Also, the animators have come out and said that they were pressured for time and that's why the cgi is a little off. They did their job, it was the executives and studios that wanted this movie out as soon as possible. Which made the animators rush out an unpolished project.
You can’t really say the studio were “rushing it out” - the film was in production for about 5 years!
even though the director said it was supposed to look bad on purpose lol, they're just trying to make excuses
And your director, their boss say it was artistic making their work awful on purpose. In which they make it seem they were hired cause the director is the only one who likes it or has sympathy if his lie is about artistic style not time
That's all they ever use as an excuse lmao. The cgi in DC films or shows has NEVER been even close to great.
@@TheZackkary1 and? 2 years were wasted trying to find the right person to write the script and the director, after multiple rejections. 1 year to film in the middle of a pandemic. Post-Production that was hell, scandals with the main actor. Post-production was put on hold after yet another studio merge. And multiple months for a decision to cancel the movie altogether. Yes, I believe they were rushed by the investors to put the movie out once and for all for profit. Because, that’s the only thing they care about.
I liked the emotional scenes they did those very well & honestly it took me till this movie to realize how similar Flash & Batman are all their conversation scenes even Batfleck made me want to see more of em together like they both are detectives and lost their parents in the same day . The mom stuff got me , the cgi was the weakest part but I liked the movie
For every good emotional scene they added 10 scenes with shitty jokes, that's what ruined it for me more than CGI
I agree, although the CGI was wonky and some weird parts with younger Barry. Some of the older Barry scenes I really liked and made me really emotional.
@@MrDarkSidius to be honest that feels like 90% of superhero movies these days, they all seem to ruin actual emotion with crap jokes a 10 year old wouldnt find funny
The relationship between Batman and flash has always been one of my favorite things about the Animated shows. You can tell Batman respects the flash even more than Superman and sees more of himself in him more than anyone else on the team
@@MrDarkSidius I didn't really feel that in this movie, I thought all the emotional scenes were well done. What you describe is how I felt about some MCU movies, especially Thor Ragnarok. Thor lost so much in that movie, his Dad, his home, his eye, yet that movie felt like there was no emotional weight & he hardly showed any emotion or grievance towards that. Compared to like No Way Home, you can feel the emotional weight & the pain Peter went through, losing Aunt May & having his friends forget who he is.
It’s kinda wild that Blue Beetle, a film with maybe half the budget, manages to look better than this
It was said that the weird looking cg was intentional. Not sure that justifies it though.
Well and people act like there's just a hub of animators everyone goes to to hire and the more money, the better animation. They can simply have had worse animators.
I like it, it sets the whole tone of this thing being a cartoon in live action, the shit in one piece looks exactly the same and no one complains about that….
the expectations and cost for a movie production are MUCH higher than a tv/streaming show production. @@cl4-tpgaming
@@cl4-tpgaming nahh... it's just bad looking CGI and there's much better attempts at doing what you're describing.
BTW, "One Piece" is miles better in production values like lighting and directing compared to "The Flash" and people don't complain about the random wonky CGI they use sparingly because "One Piece" is a good series with engaging characters. Oh.... and it's a TV show....
'This means nothing to this movie, but it looks cool' Perfect summary of this movie.
Half of it doesn’t even look cool either
If the cameos had actually _looked_ cool I might have been more forgiving of them being empty fanservice. As it was, they couldn't even clear that low bar.
I love the goodbye between Barry and Nora, the music and acting is beatiful, kinda sad the rest of the 3rd act is so Bad
The part that REALLY gets me is when barrys Mom takes off his glasses. Look at the moms face. She doesn't know why and especially how, but she immediately recognizes her child and decides to hide it. This movie may have a shit load of problems, but that scene was done masterfully and saved the movie for. It wasn't any big moment or fan service, But just a simple scene between a son and a mother.
Loved that scene. It still didn't save the movie tho
Maribel Verdu was great as Barry's mother.
Other than the straight-bad CG, I really enjoyed like 75% of The Flash. It's the 25% remaining where it really falls apart - most of which is the ending. It was re-edited and re-written SO many times. Supergirl, Wonder Woman, and Superman were all supposed to appear at the court scene, for example. Consequently, Supergirl has no ending. The biggest irritation for me is... all The Flash really did for me is prove that Ben Affleck is the best Batman, in the movie that writes him out. Great. Oh, and Nicholas Cage DID film for this movie... and they cut him out and did it all in bad CG. Madness.
I quite like Supergirl hope that actress sticks around. I feel like Kara is usually plucky and had an adventurous spirit.
But she WAS a kryptonian, she’s a refugee from a planet destroyed by a authoritarian cue. I like that she is more serious with a chip on her shoulder
Also, a Supergirl who FAILS to do her singular job and protect Kal-El? That's interesting.
Like, yeah, technically she fails in most iterations because she arrives like 20-30 years after, but Kal-El is fine. But this shows Kal-El dying while in transit, and I want to see the fallout on Supergirl's psyche and morality when she is, for all intents and purposes, the LAST Kryptonian and the LAST of the House of El.
I'd also like seeing them explore her being an actual Kryptonian, raised in the culture, as opposed to a lot of her iterations where she's just Superman's "little" cousin who largely acts normal to human standards. Weirdly enough, the CW show is probably one of the Supergirl iterations that kind of delves into that- but not terribly deeply.
@@swampfireian41yeah it’s cool how solem she is accepting a lot of failure. They don’t do the typical “ fish out of water” trope with her eating icecream and being like, “wow this is the best thing I’ve ever had this planet is amazing!”
So this is something that every VFX artist and director has to deal with: what is accurate, vs what looks good. The friction-less running is physically accurate, but doesn't look good. Most realistic things do not look good. There isn't no friction, but he is just going too fast for the friction to affect him. That's why the water still moves around.
Is it physically accurate? We have no real-life examples of people running at light speed.
@@aydinbiber7616 So CorridorDigital broke it down pretty well. But as for physics goes, the slower something slides against a surface, there is more resistance so the faster it goes, the less resistance there is. But the effects of them sliding together (heating up, scratching or damaging it) still apply. Idk if I am explaining it correctly, I cannot words well lol
no, this is not accurate. to accurately show him not experiencing friction, all you need to do is not have him slow down. that's not the issue. the issue is that while he may not be experiencing the effects of friction, the rest of the world is. there should be massive trails left on the ground with every footstep. gouges, scorch marks, not to mention the virtual crater he would create every time he comes to a stop. instead they only show water moving away from him, which should honestly be more like vapor. not even close to what i would call accurate.
@@chriswright8114 This is something that has been ignored in the comics forever, the flash would damage everything around him. I am more speficially talking about the way he himself moves relative to the surface he is running on. With that speed, one step would have a lot of force and just push him much farther. The way he moves through the air across the ground IS correct but only theoreitcally because we haven't seen anything besides light move that fast. The affects of him running like that are not correct. But I think the comics used "the speed force" as a way to explain stuff like that at some point idk
@@chriswright8114well I heard the explanation for him not damaging everything around him is the speed force.
1:31:25 I personally disagree with this take on the movie and and just tv and cinema in general. Why can’t people just watch something to enjoy it rather than feeling like there forcing themselves to watch it for a thing that’s coming in the future. E.g. the Marvel TV shows before Disney. Those shows (Daredevil, Agents of shield, Punisher etc…) are all regarded as better than the Disney stuff and are barely connected to a huge climax of the marvel stuff (agents of shield kinda the exception but still, that show got ignored and is still getting ignored to this day even tho people still say it is a great show). So why can’t things just be watched to be enjoyed these days?
Not even an acknowledgment of the interaction between Grant and Ezra's interaction in crisis or even Grant in general is a crime
*George Clooney Walks up*
Ezra Miller; Who is this?
Grant Gustin; *Runs in* Hey, let me buy you a cup of coffee
This is such a weird movie and the fight and deaths were kinda dumb. You're telling me, Superman could take down and kill Zod on his own, but two Flash's, Batman and Supergirl can't?
Not how the “universe” wanted it
Apparently Nic Cage WAS on set and in front of the camera. However, he claims what was in the movie was not what he filmed
Personally, my fav part of this whole movie was Supergirl, her pure rage during the fight scenes were so satisfying to watch, and the actor who played her did a great job, IMO... Also Batman beating shit up was fun to watch. Got to admit, I never cared for screaming teenage Barry the whole movie... It wasn't a great movie, but was, alright.
Honestly I can’t enjoy like 99% of this, but the mom’s performance in the hug scene near the end actually got me a little misty eyed. Good on her.
Yeah, that actress did a really good job with the screen time she was given.
I honestly really like the movie. It has a lot of issues for sure, but I was entertained quite a bit. I've seen it a few times now, and I enjoy it each time. Just a fun movie in my opinion.
The movie was garbage. Pure insult to the comics + CW's early Flash.
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@@gamerdude4465 Let's be real. Early CW Flash was also trash. Only good thing about the show was Wells and the two dads, but Flash himself was trash.
@@gamerdude4465idiot number one
@@Thehardtruth69idiot number two 😂😂😂😂😂😂
I love seeing Jeremy Irons anywhere though, especially as Alfred!
IMO Michael Keaton's Batman and Supergirl were the best parts of the movie.
There wasn't nearly enough of Kara!
i thought so to, it left a bad taste in my mouth that they were abandoned to a doomed reality
Ahhh I was really hoping Rick would be there. I love his take on shitty superhero movies!
Oh come one. Shitty is too hard. The story was pretty good and it had moments I actually liked.
@@CatchBackNewssthank you, it nice to know I’m not alone😢😢😢
@cl4-tpgamingchannel913 it has problems but people are too hard. Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't easily rewatch it but I definitely could unlike actual trash movies.
People talk about it like it’s the worst superhero movie ever made but that is absolutely not true. Judging it purely as a movie and ignoring everything else, it’s really not that bad. It’s just that people call it bad because they’re looking at it through the lens of Ezra Miller and the dying DC universe and honestly I don’t blame them.
@@JK_of_Today no, the title of worst superhero movie ever made still goes to Batman and Robin.
I loved Keaton Batman more in The Flash than I did in his original movies. And it was not because he actually moved like Batman in this, but because he acted so much like Bruce Wayne in this. Smart, methodical but someone who would rather sacrifice himself than let a friend get hurt. Also, Ezra acted the hell out of every scene with Barry and Barry. This is exactly how someone of his intellect and in his position in JLA would interact with his younger self.
Their reaction when the giant spider popped up was perfect. This was a shit movie but these guys are the perfect ones to react to it
"How did Blue Beetle do?"
Lmao, once you find out hahahahahaha
If they had just gotten someone other than Ezra Miller to play Flash, (seriously, why?) This would've been a lot more enjoyable. At least we got to see Michael Keaton again. Seems like he had fun with this.
This exactly
But they had already filmed when he turned into a criminal, there wasn't any way to know he would ruin it
Just get Grant Gustin already.
Why? It was pretty good if not great performance? And as far as recasting goes I was happy that Amazon didn't recast Homelander, despite actor actions and personal issues. Starr gave amazing performance. Same goes here.
@@somestuff7876 Starr and Ezra are not even in the same cateogry its hilarious you even compare them. Starr had one incident, which arguably shouldnt excuse it. But Ezra has had multiple incidents, of multiple crimes, assault, robbery, break ins, the list is endless. There has to be a certain point where one has to choose to pay to watch this psycho or not and I think Ezra is way past that point.
Ive been watching Blind Wave for 8 years now, and I can just tell from the very beginning that this movie wasn't going to get a fair shot and they're going to be overly critical on it, because it is what was expected on this reaction and of all the negativity that surrounds the movie. Which is a shame because I think the movie is very good and really enjoyable.
Yea this reaction felt off, felt it from the beginning, came in very negative. Felt exactly the same way, they didn’t give it a fair shot. Movie was a 7/10 in my opinion, I really enjoyed it.
I feel the same way as you guys, I liked some things and disliked others. I totally agree with Eric about the sound effect for the World Engine. I was waiting for it and was left disappointed. It's like if The Mandalorian hadn't used the sound effect for the Seismic Charge when Boba Fett used it in Season 2. I also enjoyed Supergirl and hope they keep that actress for the new DCEU.
I understand people's issue with the CGI in this movie, but other than that I really enjoyed it and got overall felt happy by the end of the movie. Definitely deserves some criticism, but I feel like a lot of people hate on this movie just to hop on the bandwagon.
100%
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This film makes me sad. They could have done Flashpoint properly. Instead we got this bollocks. The pieces were all there thanks to some stellar casting. Jeffery Dean Morgan as Thomas Wayne. Should have been him instead of Keaton. Use Captain America one effects to make Henry Cavil into the weedy Superman from the comics and animated film. Get Ray Fisher back as Cyborg. And bring in Zachary Levi's Shazam. Thats the golden team there. Forget Supergirl, Keaton Batman and other annoying Flash. Also, forget Zod. The threat should have been Wonder Woman vs Aquaman. They were both in the fucking film. Just expand their roles a bit. Bring Amber Heard back to be decapitated. I'm sure a lot of fans would have loved to see that. It was all there. It could have been a reality. Now, it was used as a whimper to end the DCEU and has wasted the potential of seeing a proper live action Flashpoint film because I doubt WB would want to take another stab at it. It was a wast eof potential, and a waste of my time. Because I hated this film. For all the terrible CGI, for the butchering of a great story and for the terrible, terrible, terrible attempts at humour. It was not funny. CGI babies. Not funny. Annoying second Barry. Not funny. Awkward sex quote. Not funny. The naked scene, the tooth scene, the annoying flat mates, the running about with no powers scene. NOT FUNNY.
Pity u didnt like it as much as me, i just got over Cgi...i thought comedy was on point and emotional drama with Ezra was incredible....Keaton was best he has ever been, Supergirl was so good in role and felt like Cavills cousin...the story was interesting and stunts were ambitious.....bad cgi and Kyrptonians were shoehorned in...
I think I liked it way more then most people
It's still not a great movie but it's not as bad as people are saying.
And yep Supergirl was very well cast.
dude the flash movie is great, people just hate it because ezra miller is in it, people are stupid
No, that's not the only reason. It's just a terribly made film all around and a complete waste of Keaton as Batman.
YEAH THE MOVIE WAS GOOD!
Ah yes, this film. As a huge Flash fan, he’s literally my favourite superhero, I was really excited for this movie and when I came out of the cinema I ended up thinking it was pretty good. Like an 8/10. But the more it lingered with me and the more I thought about it, the more I began to dislike it. I don’t care about the controversies with Ezra, I’m very good at separating art from artist, I can look past bad cgi, all I cared about was the story. And at the end of the day, after thinking about it more and more, I hate this movie. Since I saw it I think I’d give it a 3/10 or 4/10 and I think it’ll only get lower as time goes on. There are some good things in it, mostly the scene when Barry is with his mother and has to put the can back, but all things considered I just hate it. Saying that makes me so sad, but it’s true.
All they really needed to do was follow and take notes from Flash point the animated movie, like instead of having bad nostalgia bait have old Batman be Thomas Wayne , Reverse flash being the actual villain throughout the movie, and actual good character banter,etc. But knowing how this movie went through development hell because no one liked the script or wanted take a huge task makes sense why this movie is a mess the more you think about it.
I think a lot of factors had to go into play for The Flash to flop as badly as it did. First we have the Ezra Miller of it all but then there was the overuse of poor CGI (along with the reports of just how abused VFX workers are helps that make sense), the creepy use of AI to bring dead actors back and to replace living actors, an overall fatigue with lackluster superhero films (personally don't think people are tired of superheroes YET, but if these mid films keep going then that might change), the unearned fan-service that feels condescending, plus the standards for DC films are sooooooooo low the interest is just as low, AND that low interest isn't helped by the knowledge the DC movies coming out right now don't have a baring on the future of the DC cinematic universe so there is no urgency to see them. There are most likely other issues I'm not remembering but these feel like the big ones in my opinion. It was a perfect storm that just made this an inevitable failure. Hopefully James Gunn can fix this otherwise my vote will be for DC to focus on their animated shows. Harley Quinn and My Adventures with Superman are legitimately the best things to come out of DC in years and they deserve the praise for reminding people why these characters are actually great.
Not only does it suffer from this incarnation of the DCEU now being a dead-end, the film _itself_ made that choice several times. Introduce a new live action Supergirl (one of the characters with the most future potential for me) ? Then kill her. Re-introduce a "new" live-action Batman ? Then kill him. Then at the end, double down with a Clooney stunt cameo that basically suggests either the entire film will be taken back _even in its own universe_ (i.e. Barry will have to fix his "fix") OR it's not only a meta dead-end, it's an in-universe dead-end too (because this isn't even the - now defunct - _current_ DCEU anymore).
The film has "You _really_ shouldn't care about this" in its fundamental DNA. And I didn't so, y'know, I guess mission accomplished.
Also Superman and Lois.
Honestly only things I liked about this were Sasha Calle as Supergirl, a lot of Michael Keaton’s performance (even if I think the retired/jaded hero mentor trope is really played out at this point), and as much as I don’t like that montage of worlds colliding I did like finally seeing Nic Cage Superman fighting a giant spider. Other than that the film’s a mess that I equate to ripping off the band aid to make way for Gunn’s DC films which hopefully (?) have less drama and inconsistencies in terms of quality
Yall missed the cameo by Nikolaj Coster-Waldau guy 2nd Barry stole pizza from and the Director the guy first Barry stole a hotdog from.
The ending scene apparently changed like 3 or 4 times because WB kept changing direction. Originally it would have been Affleck, but he wanted out after the Justice League debacle. They filmed a version with Keaton and Calle, then another with Cavill. Then the reboot was announced and they brought in Clooney because the ending didn't matter anymore.
It's interesting though that this basically canonized the Burton films and Schumacher films are different universes.
Aside from the CGI microwave baby, I don't think the rest was enough to break my suspension of disbelief overall
I think the approach on the CGI in the running scenes was similar to what was done for the VR world in "Ready Player One"
The CGI characters in the cronoball scenes weren't meant to be real. They were meant to be echoes of the real ones. Like statues at a museum
Maybe it would've looked better if they had been done in monochrome
Like the liquid metal holograms in MAN OF STEEL
The post credit was pretty much just making an in universe explanation for the actor changes coming, Jason still being Aquaman in all of them, etc. But Batman being different.
The entire "crisis" scene was so atrociously done that it ruined whatever emotion it was trying to convey in that sequence.
For being the first (and last) DCEU Flash movie it just didn't sit well with me for Flashpoint to be the story it adapted. Keaton was great still and every sequence involving him was cool. I feel like Kara was super sidelined and wasn't given time to actually shine as the character, and I hope she gets a second chance as Supergirl someday. It's astounding how the CW version of Crisis utilized the "cameos" better than this million-dollar film
Overall I feel like this film is a compilation on what NOT to do for a CBM let alone a multiverse-themed one
I just noticed... blindwave is a terrible place to comment because unlike newer channels, they never interact. I feel like thats gonna have an affect.
It's why the normies are starting to overtake them. Too much anime and not enough interactions outside patreon
Supergirl was my favorite part of the movie. I hope they use her in future projects.
Mine too, her costume design was like a combination of CW arrowverse and the Man of Steel, it's like DC rolled it, patted it, and put in the oven and it came out perfectly.
I like how she throws herself when she’s about to fly at Zod. Looks really cool 😎
This movie warmed my heart with Micheal Keaton, and then hurt my soul with everything else
So they had a timestamped video showing the dad at the store when the mom was stabbed, wearing the clothes he was arrested in. Plus he had a hat on with a recognizable logo on it. He wouldn't need to look up for there to be SERIOUS reasonable doubt.
Probably my fave DCEU film.❤🔥 Didn't even mind the funny cgi babies lol. Best movie Flash suit . It had everything I wanted in a DC film with some fun, dark and sad moments. I wish they all had their own film before any of the Justice League films which I still dug both versions.
If they change the ezra to grant dustin flash then this movie will be the superhero movie of the year.
I LOVED THE MOVIE! It's a Love Letter to DC Fans!
This entire movie was trash. Looks like it was made in The Sims 4.
Completely disagree. Really enjoyed this movie (I think you missed the point of it, such as the other realities when you said that they weren’t needed) whereas I thought “Black Adam” was largely a chore to sit through.
I genuinely enjoyed this movie. I don't think it deserves the hate it gets.
Same
With the exception of a couple scenes, it wasn't too bad.
The movie was great it only flopped because of drama outside of the movie, I think the movie being changed to cut out superman and removing other cameos and ultimately the Michael Keaton supergirl ending hurt the movie too
You guys are obviously spoiled by the "flop" news and seems un-enthusiastic even at the good scenes. "yeah that look great, yeah that was cool ._."
Shazam had worse CGI but people didnt give a shit about CGI in that movie.
What really made this flop was the woke and cancel culture due to Ezra miller.
What are you talking about?
You can’t just say “woke and cancel culture” like there wasn’t real crimes Ezra miller committed
Everyone hates this movie you could find the most right leaning person and they will hate this movie
These days anyone can say woke as if it means anything
CGI aside, the movie itself is decent.
I didn't like the movie, but I thought it was great when the alternate Flash tried all the combinations to open Kara's cell as it foreshadowed his approach to try and win the climatic battle and turn him into Dark Flash.
i didn't think the effects in the chrono bowl were bad, i know they said it was because they were crunched on time, but it having different effects made it stand out, it was a visual representation of specific point in time, almost like a GIF, i didn't feel that it needed to be picture perfect in order to feel right
I don't care what anybody says. I for one enjoyed it.
I actually quite enjoyed this movie… is it the best? No but not everything has to be … I was entertained
Theres a lot of very fun and well done scenes but their connective flesh varies in strength but is also the fidelity of ps3 game.
Oh boy. This is why CGI needs to stop and take a moment to recalibrate - oh wait, actually, I mean that they need to pay their VFX artists
How about they do a better job this film was in production for over 2 years
I ENJOYED THE MOVIE! Even though the CGI was Wonky, I still liked the Movie and Had a Fun Time watching it!
Has this channel stopped watching most major films in theaters now? I'm not referring to this film in particular, but all blockbusters films that have come out in the year.
How many of them do they actually have reviews for opening weekend or within the first week of release?
I loved when he said "it's flsshing time" and then flushed all those millions down the toilet
This movie didn't even bother to explain who killed Nora Allen. They just blamed Henry Allen. Barry wasn't even curious what happened.
That was Barry's next move to find out.
We would've seen Reverse Flash in the sequel.
hate the flash and batfleck suit in this movie, hate the way the flash runs in slow mo, the cgi was often pretty bad.. but I gotta say, keaton's and kara's suit are great, the fight choreographies are great, the scenario was good.. I feel like this movie got more hate than it deserves. for me, it's a good 7 - 7.5/10
GUYS, IT'S REALLY... WHEN WILL REACT KUNG FU PANDA 2 AND 3 GUYS? REALLY, WE WANTED IT SO MUCH.
Ezra Miller’s personal issues aren’t the problem with his portrayal of Barry. The role just doesn’t suit him. You guys need to get over your inability to seperate art from artist.
I actually kinda liked this, because I saw it at home after already hearing all the sruff about it, so I didn't have expectations and just went in ignoring everything and just having fun with it as is. I like more lighthearted and goofy things as opposed to overly serious stuff anyway, so CGI aside, I actually quite liked it, especially all the time travel ajd multiverse stuff! Trippy stuff like that is always cool to me anyway lol.
Same. I’m so glad I’m able to live making up my own mind and enjoying the fun/goofy side of things rather than let the miserable mindset of other people influence my experiences.
I think the flash 'skating' is basically showing him in slow motion, because if you think about it it'll be weird if hes moving his arms and legs like a million times a second but would be looking around at regular speed.
I agree! I think maybe if they did a trick where it's implied his arms and legs ARE moving that fast, but just like in life when things move in repeated motions at incredible speed it can kind of blur into a slow-motion effect?
Like when a helicopter's blades start up and eventually your brain perceives them start spinning backward because of how fast they move.
Again though, if's and's and but's that could've and should've and would've, y'know?
It doesnt look believable that's the problem stuff like Smallville or the flash TV show looks more believable and stuff like Dash in incredibles or Quicksilver in the X-Men movies looks infinitely better
Idk if this is controversial or not but I don't think this movie is that great. I know they said the CG wasn't good on purpose... But it was too much.
That, and it was hugely reliant on well versed fan service for the sake of fan service. The calorie thing doesn't really come back in any decent way after the initial hospital scene.
It feels like it gets more mid every time I see it because all the extra stuff isn't a surprise and you question as to why and who cares. Plus... If those are different multiverses... Then Flash isn't verse jumping... So the changes he shouldn't effect, like Superman's... Anything just don't make sense. And it's explained away by a linear line changing past and future... Which is nonsensical. The running is goofy... And Flashpoint feels like a BvS level movie where it should've came way later in a series.
At the end of the day, it's not terrible. But I'd rather just watch the first 2-3 seasons of the show, instead.
The movie was actually fun and good entertainment.
It clearly lacks in a lot of areas (and I feel the burden of the poor VFX artists that had to leave the move CGI half finished to answer to the pressure of the studio to release the movie)
but It was definitely fun to watch, the humour usually hits quite well, that worked for me. I took the CGI like I would for a smaller budget movie or for TV (when you've watched years of CW's the Flash, you're ready to watch this level of CGI, even if the difference in cost is huge).
Bottom line, not a great movie, but not a total miss in my books, totally on par with some other DC/Marvel movies we got.
Definitely better than some of the recent Marvel movies for me, I guess thanks to being ignorance about Erza, the CGI and other Flash shows 😅 For a newcomer to the Flash, still want to give this one a 7 or 8
The baby scene reminded me of the opening scene of Naked Gun 33 1/3 with O.J. Simpsons catching babies.
U guys clearly never seen actual flash suit from the comics this is almost identical. Think u guys where talking shit only on rhe stuff u allready saw about it online thats what it sounded like😂
I’ve seen this movie 5 times and I still enjoy it. I know some people hate it but I don’t. It’s become one of my favorites.
Wth
Same! I still Enjoy It!
I am in the minority here. And i know on a technical standpoint this isnt the best movie. But i fully enjoyed this movie and loved it. In my top favorite movies of the year for how i enjoyed it. And again. Minority here. I like the the running style. It reminds me of Shadow the hedgehog where he had scates. He still touches the ground but he moves so fast he looks like he glides across the floow. So things are still effected by his footsteps
The Flash themes are NOT the same between Jostice League or ZSJL and this tilm.
Honestly, the very first time I watched this, I'm surprised Supergirl and Batman were killed against Zod, Faora and Nam-Ek. It was more realistic, which I appreciate. I figured them going to all that trouble to rescure Supergirl that she'd be OP and save the day Captain Marvel style. Happy to be wrong about that. -- That being said, I'm surprised the younger Flash was able to kill Faora the way he did with the slash and stab. She's Zod's second in command, no qualms about killing, brutal and effective...younger Flash, he's fast, but otherwise her opposite.-- Also, I liked how they had the Kryptonians battle the U.S. military at Edwards AFB. -- Despite its shortcomings, the movie had a few unexpected highlights. I hadn't seen any of the trailers and wasn't expecting Michael Shannon to reprise his role. Zod being victorious no matter how many times they tried to redo it, is pretty much how it would go. Makes me wonder why Zod didn't stab Kal-El.
34:43 Justice League Barry set up Noob Barry to fail. He knew Noob Barry had to regulate energy to not overheat/overcharge and still let him use the overheating suit. If they switched it would be more efficient in term of in-universe logic. The more experienced Barry is the one juggling regulating energy and Noob Barry has the "safer" suit. AND it would make sense in the climax how Noob Barry kept rewinding and replaying events. Noob Barry can keep going over and over and JL Barry can't.
But yeah in terms of logistics of the movie, they probably did it to make the improvised suit the one that gets corrupted and mangled.
say what you will about the cw DC Arrowverse. But the cw crisis on infinite earths had a 1000% more heart and respect for its characters put into it than this excuse of a movie
Good movies bomb all the time. Blue Beetle just bombed even harder than this too unfortunately and I thought that one was GREAT! I really enjoyed this movie for the most part. Not one of my favorites at all and nothing spectacular but a solid 3.5/5 stars. There are things I don’t like (mostly a lot of the visuals) but it hits a lot of the emotional beats really well and has an emotional center to it that I think a lot of comic book movies lack these days, Ezra’s performance is great, especially with the mom stuff, and it was great seeing Michael Keaton again! Overall, more positives than negatives, it was fun and emotional for me but if people don’t like it that’s okay too!
It's fine if you like it. Doesn't make it a good movie though. Also, good movies don't bomb all the time. When has that happened?
@@raiden8063 It’s subjective, I think it’s good, which is why my comment says it. When have good movies bombed? Happens more often than you think, We’ve had a ton over the past few years. Just this year - Mission Impossible: Dead Reckoning, Blue Beetle, Dungeons and Dragons, Indiana Jones 5, Pixar’s Elemental, even the new TMNT: Mutant Mayhem didn’t do well and that movie is awesome. Some other box office bombs that I love - Blade Runner 2049 (and the original), The Iron Giant, The Nice Guys, Scott Pilgrim vs the World, The Suicide Squad, Doctor Sleep, The Shawshank Redemption, Fight Club. That’s just a handful, but there are many more. If you don’t like the movie that’s okay! Just opinions after all.
@@raiden8063 that is your subjective opinion though. if you think it is not a good movie(I agree with that) then that is your opinion. and if others think it is a good movie then that is their opinion and nothing is wrong with that
@@jakegittes1864 well said. people seem to not understand it is ok if someone like a movie that they hate or vice versa
@@MoviesAndTvShowsAreSubjective thanks, appreciate it! Love your profile picture.
So, for some reason, DESPITE the film having an entire spaghetti analogy to this film's use of time travel and how it affects the world around it, people still don't understand it. So I'm going to try to explain it better.
We have two different conepts in this movie. Universes, and timelines. Unlike the MCU, this film uses those concepts correctly. A universe is a physical space with a whole set of natural laws that dictate what can and can't happen within it. A timeline is a series of events within that universe. So a universe is what, and a timeline is what happens. So to speak.
When Barry saved his mom, he changed the timeline within that universe. Replaced the old one with the new one. And that change reverberated throughout all of time, forward and backward. But it is also soon after this timeline change that we also see the introduction of a time loop. Future Barry 2 pushes Barry 1 into the new timeline, eventually leading to the events that makr him him. But then he accidentally kills himself. This happens because they're outside of time and thus not subject the nature of a causal loop. But when future Barry 2 kills present Barry 2, it effectively erases the events of the rest of the movie that we've seen up until this point, because the grandfather paradox still exists. Or a similar one, anyway. If Barry 2 never became an evil Barry 2, he could never have caused the events that led to his own creation. But don't think about it too hard. Just don't. Because the answer is that Barry 2 either never existed, always existed, or is simultaneously existand AND non-existent. And none of them make sense.
At the end of the movie, Barry 1 changes the timeline again. Barry 2 no longer exists because he never had the opportunity to exist, and the timeline is mostly the same as it was before. But that change he made with the placement of the tomato soup also reverberated throughout time. This new timeline is not the same as the original one, but it, too, has replaced it.
Universes are the giant Speed Force domes we see at the end, all crashing into one another. Each dome essentially peers into moments in time witin those respective universes, and when the domes collided, cracks between time and space emerged, allowing the horribly rendered CG monstrosities to peer into the DCEU Speed Force dome/universe.
Okay. If I explained everything accurately, then our collective understanding is that neither Michael Keaton or George Clooney are playing the SAME versions of Batman as they did in theirbown respective movies. Those films exist in a separate universe, but the events of this film take place entirely within one universe with multiple timelines (or the same timeline, but altered). Michael Keaton veing Batman and being older than Ben Affleck Batman was one of the many changes to the timeline when Barry saved his mom. George Clooney being Batman was one of what we can only assume are equally numerous changes to the timeline when Barry saved his dad from life in prison.
The clips we see of George Reeves and the classic style Jay Garrick (who I don't think ever existed in real life), Christopher Reeves and Helen Slater, Nic Cage Superman, and the 60's Batman series all exist within separate universes. The same universes those characters and stories originally appeared in. But Michael Keaton and George Clooney are not playing their versions of the character, but similar versions within a different universe and setting due to the changes in the timeline made by Barry.
Edit: So basically, the SMALL amount of the multiverse we see in this film still lines up with what we've seen in the Arrowverse, particularly within Crisis on Infinite Earths. And it seems weird to me, that Marvel is the company that, despite their infinitely larger succes, fail to understand the differences between a universe and timeline. While DC, a far less consistent franchise and far more disjointed while also ALL being connected to everything else has consistently understood the concepts they were playing with.
For me i really enjoyed this movie.The emotional beats went hard, I think Ezra did a good job imo. Batman and Supergirl obviously stole the show aswell. As a DC fan this was a fun time. It has its flaws and a lot of them, theres no denying that. I just feel they are overexaggerated and a lot of people just joined the hatewagon. It's kind of the perfect representation of the DCEU for me, flawed but i had a lot of fun with it.
I ENJOYED THE MOVIE! It is a Love Letter to DC Fans!
It’s crazy to me that The Flash season 1,2, and 3 had dope, believable, and awesome cgi and this MOVIE with a bigger budget has terrible cgi. Less is more I guess
Those cameos were the biggest load of shit i've ever seen. They got the wrong set of cameos and got them wrong. That's the best way I can describe it. This is a Flash film. So they should have used different versions of the Flash. Maybe even use them to actually effect the storyline by having them try to explain to Barry why he can't save his mom. And there are enough Flashes. Grant Gustin from CW Flash. John Wesley Shipp from 90s Flash. John Wesley Shipp as Jay Garrick instead of the imposter who I will get back to later. Kyle Gallner as Bart Allen from Smallville. All would have made more sense as cameos. But they wanted the well known ones like Adam West and Christopher Reeves. So they purposefully went for the wrong set of cameos. But how did they get that wrong too? Most kids in the cinemas don't know who George Reeve was. Most of their parents don't know either. Most of the audience don't know about Nic Cage either. So for many, it would be like if when Tom Hollands Spider-man met Andrew Garfield and Tobey Maguire, if Jonah Hill also shows up claiming to be another Peter Parker. Most people would be like WTF??? Jay Garrick was a bad choice too. At least that version of Jay Garrick, the Teddy Sears version, who was actually not Jay Garrick but the villain. Tell me you didn't watch the CW Flash show without telling me. Oh yes, you clearly just typed Jay Garrick into Google and took the first image you saw. So if you want to get Audiences excited by using the best of the best. Where was Christian Bale's Batman? I guarantee that a very significant portion of DC fans today, only became DC fans because of the Dark Knight. I know I did. I didn't give a crap about superheroes before I watched Dark Knight. Where was Bale? Where was Lynda Carter as Wonder Woman? She was an Icon to many young women for decades. Still is. Where was Tom Welling as Superman. I'm sure many of the super nerds who got semis watching Nic Cage in the suit on screen would have also loved to see Welling finally don the suit. Where was the CW? In the same sense that Helen Slater shared a scene with Christopher Reeves, could they not have included one scene showing Grant Gustins Flash, Mellissa Benoist's Supergirl and Tyler Hoechlin's Superman? And if we want to really push home the idea of the biggest, most important characters, maybe a bit of self promotion wouldn't have gone amiss. Show off the current Batman Robert Pattinson. It makes absolutely no sense that they did that scene the way they did.
This isn’t as bad as everyone says. You would think it’s horrible by all the people who didn’t see the movie, just clips on Twitter
I liked it more than I didn't, dialogue was biggest complaints in some parts, had a lot of great elements. Cgi is off sometimes, but I don't think it would have flopped without Ezra Miller being a fucking shithead.
Better than blue beetle, at least. Which just kinda sucks all around.
The extremely soft DC reboot ain't going too well...
Btw the Lawyer defending Barry's dad is from Doctor who. He plays Donna Nobles Husband, Shaun Temple Noble played by Karl Collins.
1:07:49 Mark! 👎to Eric! BOO! 🤬
I disapprove of the depiction of smoking and other vices, but I otherwise love the 1984 "Supergirl" and Helen Slater, especially! 💕
I think Sasha Calle was fantastic as Supergirl and her suit looked amazing. Michael Keaton as batman again was great! And there are a couple of scenes i really enjoyed but other than that, this movie was garbage. It was so rushed which is odd since it was in production for like 8 years lol.
As much as I like the idea of seeing Nic Cage as Superman in a real movie, I was disappointed that they didn't show the Disco Superman suit.
The Cameos were the Best Part! Cage looked Great as Superman!
So here’s my biggest problem with this movie. If traveling back in time caused a “current timeline” Barry, why isn’t there one when he restocks the shelves?
something something speedforce ?
I have 0 problems with Ezra. In fact, he is my favorite casting of the DCCU. All my issues with the movie are the visual quality of the fx shots. And wtf is "unearned fan service"? It's fan service. It's literally inserting a "sample" of someone else's work for no reason beyond the callback. How would it ever be anything but unearned?
You have 0 problems with Ezra as a person or an actor?
Batman was the best part of this movie. Can’t wait to see what Andy does with Brave and the Bold.
The best parts were the emotional scenes. They were done well
About James Gunn being "paid" to say it was a great! Well, so they paid him to say it about this one but not the Aquaman and Blue beetle? Lol
There's a satisfying movie somewhere in here. I've found it a couple times but man this movie needed a solid plan.
Went from being a flash movie, to a universe opening film, to an ensemble film, to a multiverse film, to a movie ending a cinematic universe. I just wanted a flash movie
Personally, I thought this movie was too silly, and I am NOT someone who thinks DC/superheroes need to be all grimdark. I like silly superhero movies, they're all we had in the 90s. This one didn't land with me, but it doesn't bother me if other people enjoyed it, that's great.
1:05:53 Mark! What?! I looked for such moments and I didn't notice! Or were you counting covered, not bare? 🤔 If covered, doesn't that happen anyway, especially during leg sweeping movements? 😮
😭 I remember a short inteview clip with michael shannon and they were like hey were gonna introduce multi-verse. And michaels like man idk wtf that is. And the look on his face envoked both laughter and sorrow for me. So either they didnt properly explain it. Or he was throughly confused by the premise/movie
For those who haven’t seen the show the first two seasons are some of the best TV I’ve seen. After that it kinda fell off but season 3-6(first half) are extremely watchable; the second half of 6 and 7-9 is some of the worst writing I’ve seen in a thing…it never gets say Inhumans bad but it a far cry from what it was
The first 2 seasons were ok, it's extremely overhyped then becomes power rangers
yeah
The first 2 seasons being “the best tv” is a stretch and a half. It was good for a superhero show with the budget it had lol
@@devin6079granted I don’t watch much TV
I hate ezra millers flash so much, his run, his stance, hes just such a zesty flash. I enjoyed the movie though for what is was worth.
I don't see why people are complaining so much about this movie, it was decent.
Lol no, it absolutely wasn't. It's just terribly written all around.
Great... wow. Hahaha. Really strange how you can't tell what people would complain about. You should watch some reviews.
I mean, they're complaining because they disagree with you about it being decent.
Perhaps you see now ?
@@za-ir5ni It wasn’t terrible but not that good either
@@HalJordan661 Watch YMS' review